My CRAZY THEORY on Begode ET MAX & COMMANDER PRO GT
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- Опубліковано 20 січ 2024
- The class of super high voltage 150v+ EUCs are here! With the Lynx already released and Begode hot on Veteran's tail with not just one but two 168v electric unicycle both the ET max and the Commander Pro GT. Well, I have some thoughts on that and this week Ronin / @ronin_ryder join me to talk about these two soon to be released wheels!
Episode 141- ET max & Commander Pro GT!!
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Lynx and ET Max will be the performance wheels to beat in 2024. this was a fun. two intelligent people sitting in front of a camera usually works out fairly well.
That’s right, we need more of this
Great synergy between you guys. Some new updates:
- GT PRO ran into some developmental issues with the 168V controller, according to BG source it will be very similar to the ET MAX. Demo production is scheduled for the 25th, hopefuly shipping out before the CNY shutdown
- New 14" model will be annouced on Thursday, one of these will be getting shipped out to your guys
- ET Max demo is on the heels of the GT PRO
- EB entity exists because of a family relation to the owner of BG. With the product overlap, agreed that it doesn't seem very logical; BG owner says that the differentiators with the EB Wheels are the speakers, cyclindrical type suspension & LEDs, while BG has adopted a different approach for their suspension machines
I kept hearing different things about ExtremeBull; its a completely separate company; or the owners are cousin of Begode boss and so were able to share resources; in the end it feels like neither BG nor EB have any consistent characteristics so they just feel interchangeable at this point. In the end the corporate structure don't really make any difference to the consumer but what matters are the products.
Jason said that he thought the ET max was going to come first, as of a week ago, not sure if things had changed. But a 14incher? hmmm that should be interesting!
Are their any issues with Commander Pro 50S? have those shipped out to U.S.?
@@bravedave90 just arrived late Friday :)
@Wheelingaround how is the ride feel? Is the suspension as good as sherman s? Is it waterproof?
This is the kind of video missing from the EUC community. Real commentary by people who know what they are talking about. Reviews are great, but this helps really inform on the reality of the wheels.
It was fun watch you together, two unbiased guys that know what they are talking about, talking about wheels we have come to love from their seperate you tube reviews. Awesome :)
Yoooo, Ronin has a face under that epic helmet!
The helmet is how he really looks, he's wearing a face now 😮
@@Fig_Newton lol, yes just like Rorschach
Correct! 😊@@Fig_Newton
Loved the conversation--Ronin: it's good to finally see your face out from under under your helmet
I could listen to these both chatting for hours ...😊
Are you sure? 😂
@@Ronin_Ryder lets give it a try 🤪
I peddle clipped 6 times last summer. It’s a brutal way to crash which is why we need those peddles up there especially when suspension is compressed. Good vid and content. Thanks!
Cool collaboration between you two. A lot of people trust you both for information about electric unicycles. Ronin is one of the reasons I bought the wheel that I did.
Good back and forth with you guys. I like this platform, good intelligent information without to much cover music
This was great to watch. Don’t hesitate to do another of one these guys.
Hey man this is a great bonus I was not expecting.... I think erides doing a Lynx pedal lowering bracket... You may already know this... Great show... Edit... U do know heh
We need more of these. I enjoyed this format. IT's a little long, but still very nice to listen to. You have managed to waste 55 mins of my time.
Very enjoyable, thanks. It’s nice to see Ronin. You guys make a great team. The ET Max is definitely the wheel for 24’.
Ronin has a magnetic attractive French accent, plus wearing Tron style black helmet while riding EUC is quite stylish😊
thanks! 😊
Somehow you tricked me into wasting 55-minutes of my life. But would do it all over again.
Kingsong sends wheels to "Your Aubsome" all the time if I'm not mistaken.
I Like the interview format. Keep up the wonderful work!
Great collaboration!! Look forward to another one!!
Whenever I hear Ronin talk, I feel like there should be bread, wine and cheese on the table.
I agree on your take about S16...from an adult's perspective who does not have any children. I have a 9 year old I expect to be able to fully take advantage of S16's potential. But because of his smaller size and strength, I have to rule out most high power suspension wheels that would be just too heavy for him to handle when he steps off the pedals. After having my kid test rode Marty's S16, I believe S16 Pro would be the perfect wheel for him in the foreseeable future. I'm glad Kingsong has made that one available just the right time for us.
It ended up being a good idea from. I wasn't sure at first and critized it but changed when I saw it being ridden around in the videos
Awesome collab guys!
awesome review as always!! im liking this content more 👌
shout out to Sam of Ai -rides such aa cool dude and extremely knowledgeable about fixing EUCS
Thank you 🙏🏽
Two of my favorite content creators I the same video. Awesome!!!
Just got my a2 I'm loving it .the passion I had for one allowed to ride 8 miles my first ride .just got a snow storm and I wish I had those knobby.
Great conversation guys, very enlightening. And nice to put a face to the masked rider finally Ronin! Very happy I changed my pre-order of the Max to the Commander Pro 50s, which I'd love to see your guys review of btw. Ronin I know you really liked the OG Cpro, but with the addition of the C40 I'd be curious what you think of the weight distribution. Yes I know an EX30 and Cpro had a baby, but imo it's probably the best all-rounder street to trail and back do-it-all wheel, that no one talks about.
Cheers guys so that's how you do your speed runs watching your phone so crazy hope to gain the skills and confidence like yous awesome vids guys
30:10 yes, you can absolutely restrict the top speed without reducing anything else.
I know the basics of programming vesc, in this software you can reduce max rpm of the motor as a separate setting. I bet this works similarly in they software
if you have to buy adjustable pedals, it is what it is. lower ride height = lower center of gravity = more stability = safer..it Would be great if they lower the wheel itself for speed focused built EUC's
That's exactly what the ex30 did, look at the battery box mounting position
re pedals.
I took my Lynx to an MTB park & trails yesterday. I appreciate the high pedals and won't be lowering them. But I do get the issue with speed runs, I have topped at 52.7mph so far and you really feel the wheel kinda want to fall to one side.
But for me, I bought it BECAUSE it's such a good middleground wheel between off-road (power to weight) and commute (looks nice, decent range).
Coming from an S22, the suspension is SHOCKINGLY harder. But worth the trade off.
What lbs shocks do you have in your lynx mate?
Also, how does the lynx suspension go offroad compared to the S22 (pro?)
Ive got a s22 Pro and extreme and have been considering replacing both of them with the lynx
@@bronsonmercieca2120 70lb
I have an S22 but with aftermarket sliders and pro motor.
Lynx is much firmer off-road, and the reduced travel is very noticeable on drops or if you over shoot a jump. It's not 'bad' though. I am yet to bottom out and have done some pretty big jump overshoots.
It's mostly noticeable when you clear stair sets and similar height drops.
Other than suspension, it's more top heavy so it is more of a workout on some trails where you have to change direction a lot on berms. But it's not unwieldy and still fun.
For me, it's 100% worth it just because of the power difference.
As you have the Extreme, I imagine you know the same lack of power feeling you get on the S22 in many spots. I think the Lynx could replace both, but I would try and get some time on one just so you can feel it.
I say go for it though. I went in blind and don't regret it.
P.S. I am 75kg naked, and people would recommend I go for the 66lb, but I knew I would be abusing the shit out of it.
Look for j,k,m,p on the tyre for over 60mph. F is under 50mph, B under 30mph. Don't use bicycle tires 😂 Thanks great content! A kenda 35p has a load capacity of 267lbs/120kg, so a 88lbs/40kg euc + over 176lbs/80kg person it's loading the wheel. Specs guys, don't get killed.
Great to see the face behind the mask Ronin, enjoy your reviews with much wisdom and fun from both you and Hsiang. I hope you do more in the future. Cheers, 6 pac Gord
Hey my buddy Chris bought that $2K Sherman S and its awesome! haha that was funny to hear ya mention that
west coast rider here. i push whatever im riding as fast as it will go. not all of us are talking shit about fast riders on the east coast.
One more great video. You guys should do more this “Podcast” type. On riding with the cross winds, the guys are NOT in Saudi, that’s Abu Dhabi, Yas Land, where there is the F1 Grand Prix. It is insane!!! It’s a perfect, 6 lane wide, each direction and goes for over 30 miles straight. However, and that’s why I think they do their videos at night, the cross winds are ALSO insane. Driving a big SUV like a VW Touareg you can feel the cross winds during the day. I have not driven there during the night, but I do not think is very different then the day, just a little better. Anyhow, great video, bring more like this!!!!
Yes, I have noticed hitting top end speeds with winds you have to push through. Cross winds brings adrenaline.
its crazy sketchy at 50mph+ ! I think having more power would help, but that's my answer to everything! =)
now the newest begode wheel is 8500 usd lol
Great video, I would listen to you all talk about paint drying.
Loved this video you guys rock I want rhe ET max soooo badly it’s the halo wheel I think it’s going to be awesome
ETmax comes with adjustable pedals. In theory someone could design a shock linkage for it which had multiple shock locations which supported 130mm or 100mm travel, at least I hope some one will...
I am about to order my et max today …. Its my first wheel and I’m excited to see what the EUC hype is all about. Hoping i can ride it well (I’m 32 and active but have a fake leg below the knee so heres to that hope :) lol)
After putting 60 mm dropped pedal hangers on the master it made it handle amazing
I need to install the Eride hanger and see how the Lynx feel with it, but i still want to ride it a bit more stock to make sure that i'll register the differences.
@@OWGAC I planned on it when mine arrives soon
@@OWGAC great of you can mate.... Would love to know results so I can phone my man Afeez and get a set if it's a winner
where did you buy your dropped hangers from? thanks
Everybody is blabbering about speed this speed that, what I like is the Leverage of this new voltages - You can push easily with less beeps at "normal speeds" at low battery charge coupled with the 50s batteris, less sag is allways better. Thats why I got my Lynx.
Pedal heigth stuff, Veteran gears more for offroad clearence, which I love - Seen S22 friends stuck at places on trails where they get caught with the lower pedals...
Speed runs, what are the PSI you guys run on your tires? also do you guys stiffen up the suspension?
Great video!
Omg that’s what Ronin looks like? Please put the helmet back on!!! 😂. (So kidding man)
terrible!! =)
Im putting it back on... in my channel! 😂
More like this too fam
Yeah, you and Ronin wasted another hour of my time (30 minutes each), but it was 1 hour well wasted. Lol
Great video!
How you liking that new helmet? Looks great. P.S. what's the longest selfie stick you use?
I like this format was more like a podcast than a regular video here but why not put Ronin's name in the title?
Great video, do it every 6 month review
Roger said his 65mph excursion was uphill with 75% charge just last night in chat on Duf's stream, btw. Crazy stuff.
The ride quality from the Master to the Ex30 is massive,the motors are quite different too. The stability at speed on the Ex30 is superior to the Master.
Ronin's little brother called and he wants his shirt back😂
I like interviews!
Time to wear the aerodynamic outfits
The Frenchman!!
For speed testing seated riding is probably the way to go, will be less prone to wind interference and more stable
If they are going to have all these fast EUC they are going to need fatter tires for more stability for straight riding.
Put a motorcycle tire at least 4 to 6 inches wide at least.
I always think about this!
They are making wider tires. The commander pro gt has the best wheel and the begode et max tire is wide also
@@cavemankaye im preordering the et max🤷🏽
The Commander GT Pro I believe will be discontinued which is why they immediately released the ET Max. Hsiang was right, it looks like there were some serious issues with it that would require a massive overhaul.
I'll stick to the lnyx order. These prices now are ridiculous. A burrito Supreme used to be $2.19 at taco bell its now with tax over $5.00 😂 everything is overpriced.
For me the lynx was good enough. I dont see myself reaching skill level over the physical limitation of the lynx much less the et max. Et max does look sweet, but getting thru rain and everyday use is looking better with the lynx. I hate high pedals and Ive been riding for a while and I still cant get used to it. Lynx lowering kit is only 1 inch +-. I did order it just to see how it works. Love the conversation. Props to NYC. Dont ban understand!
what's insane is your helmet :). you crack me up
What's stronger than the Lynx are the accents.
We want more power, we want more speed... And we want vertical take off at the end of the day 😂😅
I’ve only ridden one wheel (Commander Pro). I had no idea wheels ride so much differently and now I’m really curious about other wheels. I love my CP. Probably won’t get a Veteran until there is iOS support but maybe some day.
on a veteran you dont need an app as everything is on the display & you can change it... I have a Lynx now for a month & I have had many of begode & king song (i dont like inmotion so I havent had one of them yet but the v14 seems to be the best wheel they have made) ... going back to Veteran I am impressed by the quality & if you get one you will be too .... with Ios you can update it from darkness bot & i am on andriod now with the fold 5 but I never even use the LK app since it is so easy to change anything on the display.. really awesome feature.
LeaperKim has had an iOS app since last year
I'm waiting for Begode to make a Monster Pro with suspension, 3800 wh 168v ...instead of the usual 3600. keeping the weight below the Master pro will be ideal.
I'm a firm believer that there is no one setting for suspension that is good for all occasions. Have you thought of drastically decreasing preload to increase the suspension sag, and thus giving you a lower pedal experience?
Air compressor on the unicycle for suspension and tire!
it is such a joyful ride to listen to you 2!
fun, nerdy and lots of skill behind the comments
also LOVE the french accent (as I speak french and also love @BonheursurSeine .. www.youtube.com/@BonheursurSeine)
high speed guitar delivery?
That was the light we used, and boy did it pull me around cuz of the wind!!
Euc podcast?
cello , guitar, or large viloin, or you gnome sized and carring small violin>??? or lighting equipment...
hahahaJK.. keep the content coming..
First
The EUC companies should create new designs like:
EUC designed specifically for seated riding, plush cushioned seats, maybe back rest
EUC with fat tires Spare car tire or Motorcycle width
Radio Bluetooth should be standard on all models
EUCs with acceleration pedal and brake pedal
Not cut out or dips should be standard on all models
Think outside the box.
Yeah, a motorcycle 😂
About the section on smaller wheels (and I am not asking you to review smaller wheels, I simply disagree with you guys on that specific point). Riders in the US sometimes have no conception of what the exchange rate and taxes are like in the rest of the world. To most people around the world, these small wheels are the only ones which make any finnacial sense for someone to buy, because the larger models are more expensive than motorcycles. Wheelgood time reccently did a video with the ex-CEO from inmotion, in which he confirmed that kingsong and inmotion both ship way more units than begode or leaperkim. You will see more ads and marketing for the gr corrola, but that does not mean that it will outsell the regular corolla or that it will make more money for toyota than the regular one (very far from it). It's a flagship strategy in which the higher end models shine a light on the whole lineup. The idea that smaller, lighter and cheaper wheels serve the purpose of a smaller market is simply wrong.
And just to be clear, when I say smal wheels I mean wheels like the A2, 16s, v8f; not the kingsong basket ball. It would be great to see new versions of these wheels with a bit more power and suspension. Thanks for reading
And the only legal wheel only has 1k watt motor, which is like nothing compared to just the plain old master.
@pacochawa2746 Here they also can't go over 20km/h soo yeah.. a 16s and a Lynx is exactly the same illegality
Привет,что бы вы делали если бы в Америке запретили моноколеса как в Великобритании,если я не ошибаюсь(euc)?
They are not banned in Scotland.
Go team real face protection!
Did you throw that POC(s) in the trash yet?
I think its good they have different companies, just incase 1 of them fucks up lol the other company can go the other way.
Why didn't Sam from A.I. Ride not make an appearance?...
Good suggestion let me see if I can get him to hop on quick also
50 mph on a wheel, of course I'm going to rip on you. I can't do that, even if I could I would bottle out on the basis I have a good imagination and value my neck. Kidding just jealous, I need more practice I think 🙂
We want more speed. 60MPH is not a realistic cruising speed on the EX30. You may be able to hit 60 in perfect conditions. I've topped out at 58mph and I cruise daily at 50 - 53mph. We want to be able to cruise safely at 60+ and still have enough power to pass cars and power up hills without fear of cutout.
Sound like you want to "un-alive" yourself cruising that fast on a EUC...Just get a motorcycle or 400cc Motor scooter
@@truthiscensoredfalse.
For me it is far more exciting to ride an EUC at lower speed than a motor cycle at far higher speed. And as dangerous as a crash on an EUC at 60, i'll still take that instead of a moto crash at 100+
You are less likely to have to aputate your nuts on an euc than the most commen amputation for motorcycle riders....
Lol at the sentence "cruise safely at 60+"... uhhhh what.
if they stop making smaller wheels, they are killing off their own product market by excluding new riders!
Patton vs Lynx off-road.
Look at it like a 500cc dual sport vs a 750cc adventure bike.
Both have a place.
also I think the larger diameter tire helps with off road as well, its like moving up to a 29inch from 27 for mountain bikes.
I dont think its a bad thing Begode is making wheels look different from each other. I get bored with companies making a product that looks all the same, no originality to the design!
If you can survive tt isle of man you have become a simigod lol.
its ... THE BRONX NOT BRONX MY DUDE
Blablabla ils parlent pour ne rien dire....
Thank you for wasting 55 minutes of my time!
😒-The obvious....at those
Speeds like motorcycle type speeds... Don't put your life at risk trying to prove the actual preformance of an ewheel broken bones and having asphaul scrubbed out of your skin with no anithetic is no fun... besides we need your content.
It would be interesting to know which brand is the most sold in each continent and how many units. Just don't think that in europe, south america for example people buy more begode since most countries don't have as much money and when they do they want it to last for years