M56 Scorpion - American Airborne Tank Destroyer
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2023
- An overview of the M56 Scorpion featuring a few places where it pops up in the movies.
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Movies/Games Featured:
Winter Kills 1979
Touch and Go 1971
Amerika 1987
War Thunder (Video Game)
Hell on the Battleground 1989
Invasion Force 1990
Trailer Park Boys (Series)
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Dude...comment of the day!
For a second there I thought you made a video about the scorpion tank in Halo
If only
We all did :(
On the bright side, April Fool’s Day video idea?
Or the Scorpions from Command and Conquer: Generals or Tiberium Wars.
Anyways, *"SHIELLLLLLAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!"*
The T34 (USA heavy type, not the T-34) low key reminds me of the Halo Scorp. The wide tracks and overall width along with the overall design have a vague resemblance in my view. I like imagining how the Halo 1 scorpion would do in WT
@@ThommyofThennabout as well as the M56 scorpion.
In halo, it’s basically a light fire support vehicle, closer to the striker than an actual MBT. There’s basically no real armor protecting the (single) operator and it’s entire doctrine embodies being deployable by VTOL aircraft.
1:45 I love how War Thunder takes pride in having actual crew members in the open vehicles but yet they just sit there like they are waiting for a doctors appointment while facing down a freaking Sturmtiger xDDD
Then again, the War Thunder version doesn't bounce like it's been kicked by a giant every time the gun fires either.
@@thefez-cat It kinda does though, it used to have even more recoil but it was lowered in a small patch at one point because it was originally excessive, to the point that the entire vehicle would be pushed back. I remember seeing a video where someone fired it and fell backwards into the river on eastern europe from the recoil.
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"Johnson? Johnson???"
"Uh, he was incinerated by the explosion a minute ago. Can I take his place? Please?"
The British army had its own Scorpion but that was a light turreted tank armed with up to a 90mm gun and crewed by 3. It was even made into a childrens toy for the British version of GI Joe ( Action Man).
the 90mm is really short
Gaijin when? I want this as BR6. 7 British vehicle.
The toy version showed up in the ’Doctor Who’ serial ‘Robot.’
What was the name of the Action Force vehicle? There might be an American Joe equivalent because it looks really familiar to me, like I didn't have it but a friend did or something.
The Scorpion 90 was mainly an export version... What fascinates me was the aluminium armour! (Aluminum armor for our US friends...)
M56 in Warthunder when you get hit by the smallest bomb ever
Lol but its worth it once you unlock HEAT rounds and can bypass all armor at that rating angles not included
The M50 Ontos has also contemporaries in both Japan and Venezuela .
Japan Ground self defense force used the Type 60 Self-propelled 106 mm Recoilless Gun up util 2008.
Venezuelan army has extensively modified the Chassis of an AMX-13 Tank with 6 106mm Recoilless rifle .
fun fact is that the 106mm Recoilless rifle is actually chambered in 105mm but in a different caliber measurement and is smaller than the 105x617mm Round used by the L7 and derivative tank gun. it was done to avoid confusion.
Flashback to the time an M36 crew got ammo for M26 Pershing or something lol, also the same with 77mm HV, literally just a cut down 17 pdr iirc
The Soviets used the same system of minor numerical changes to avoid mistakes in resupply of similarly sized but different ammunition. They did a lot of dumb things, that wasn't one of them!
The M50 was originally intended to be the US Army’s airborne anti-tank vehicle, but then decided to go with the M56 instead so the Marines got the M50 as a hand me down. The M56 used the same 90mm rounds as the then current M47 tank so it made some sense from a logistics perspective, though putting such a powerful weapon on such a lightweight vehicle really just seems like someone had a visit from the Good Idea Fairy.
Money to burn, USA.
@@i-a-g-r-e-e-----f-----jo--bneither of these projects cost that much, just throwing together pieces of already existing equipment and making a carrier for it.
A Trailer Park Boys episode where they drive around in an M56 might be even better than the one where they kidnap Alex Lifeson.
Hello Johnny.
The Soviets also had contemporaries related to lightweight tank destroyers/ field guns similar to M56 scorpion.
The ASU-57 and later ASU-85 would see long time service with VDV. The ASU-85 was much better armed and also saw extensive service during Soviet Afghan war and Sino Vietnamese war. waiting for my fellow warthunder players to comment.
Having seen an ASU-57 in CFB Gagetown, This thing was TINY! Really makes anything else in the tank park look huge in comparison.
@@k9turrent want to see Tiny take a look at a German wiesel
An awesome obscure vehicular history piece
1:46
That sturmtiger got violated
Thank you, My father was a platoon leader of the M56 in Korea in the late 50's.
Ah Bubbles. The Scorpion was quick reaction anti armour capability to counter the thousands of Soviet T54/55’s rolling through the Fulda Gap.
That Bubbles clip at the end, you truly are a man of culture!
Smokes let's go
It's been a minute since I gave any thought to Winter Kills. That was one wild film!
I think you should do an overview of the series "Amerika".
I really should! I have to find a better quality version mind you.
That's a show I haven't thought about in decades. All I remember of that is the SNL spoof 'Amerida' which was about Canada invading the States and Phil Hartman complaining about football players having to punt on third down now.
Great video! Never heard of this small airborne tank and it taught me a lot about it, Thanks!
There's one of these at a local park. It's pretty cool.
In the TV show Tour of Duty there is one briefly seen in season 3 of the show driving with a jeep trying to get around it. It's so random but I just watched the episode then remembered this video.
They say this was a TD but Id say it was less a tank destroyer and more a "high mobility anti tank gun"
not something you want to ride into battle but instead park it in some bushes or dug in and wait for armor to wonder too close
That's still a tank destroyer, look up American doctrine. Towed 76mm and 90mm anti-tank guns were also called tank destroyers.
Tank destroyers were simply anti-tank units that moved to wear the enemy tanks were going to be to ambush them.
towed guns were not called tank destroyers they were part of tank destroyer UNITS now mount the gun on a truck or halftrack and then its called a TD unofficially but still just a "gun motor carriage *mm" officially
this is also not really fitting in the TD doctrines of the US as its not meant to charge ahead of an attack and more just to park in a bush and act as a mobile gun as it didnt have the speed nor the ability as this was a paratrooper vehicle and they dont typically attack armored spearheads
that being said at this point there wasnt really a TD doctrine for the US and it was more mobile guns/missile carriers that were attached to units when armor wasnt available or appropriate
its a nickpick but I stand by it in this instance @@matthiuskoenig3378
A stadium in Cedar rapids Iowa has one of these on display along with a walker bulldog I believe. beautiful machines
This channel is my safe haven of good content. Ty for the great vids.
Tight, well made video mate. As we've come to expect. Good stuff
Revell had a 1/48 scale M-56 Scorpion model that I played with. That's what I did with military models when I was a kid.
Never knew much about this thank you for the video. 👍
i think 190 MM of armor pen from a kilometer is really good. but it doesn't sound like the crew liked the vehicle much. and an open crew means ambushes and shrapnel are an easy down fall of this vehicle.
of course it's always good to remember that just because the vehicle was never used that much, doesn't mean it was bad, just means there likely was better options available.
The idea of armored infantry was the backbone of this idea i think.
Infantry protects the armor from attack by infantry that can sneak up close and the armor protects the infantry from attack by other armor or artillery that thye cant attack due to toughness.
So with this idea the infantry is the armor because they would be there to keep ambush and attack away and it would light enough to deploy with them.
But as with most things in combat...its usually a good idea, but can it actually happen that way.
Im sure it got to far away from it support or purpose or sent on the wrong missions and it sucked.
i imagine they looked at this vehicle and either said (yes we need a tank destroyer) or said (it can't fit all roles so it bad vehicle) a lot of block heads in the army. but in my opinion this vehicle (assuming it actually functions well, and is well liked by the crew) is situational. and couldn't be really effective outside of it's exact combat roles.@@heathb4319
This is a self-propelled anti-tank gun effectively.
Its vulnerable in an ambush, a towed gun would be even more vulnerable.
I have been searching for this. my brother built a model of it back in the late 1950s .
As a child I thought it was a good idea .
Thanks.👍
"How does 90mm of Tungsten strike yah?"
GREAT vid, as ALWAYS.👍
It does seem to have a helluva bite, don't it. Thanks Johnny, see ya next time.
Awesome knew nothing about this one, great info!
It looks like it's trying to get back to the aircraft that dropped it when it fires.
Hahahaha...like a baby reaching up for it's mom or dad to be picked up again.
I suggest videos on the:
T-34 tank
M1919 Browning machine gun
M1917 Browning machine gun
Brown Bess musket
Charleville musket
Pennsylvania long rifle
Bowie knife
Fairbairn Sykes knife
Katana sword
Spear
did not expect to ever see a TPB cameo in one of your vids hahah!
Awesome trailer park boys reference at the end 👌🏼
My personal favorite. Iv seen the one in Auburn Washington.
ayy new video! thank you
ahahahah love the TPB reference with Bubbles hum no... with Scorpion !
I recall my dad getting me a 1/35 scale model kit of this thing when I was a kid.
One of my biggest brags is that I’ve seen four different examples of this thing in three different places. Love the scorpion
Awesome video, thanks for making cool vids like this and have a great day good sir
The ending clip was amazing
The Scorpion was developed at about the same time that the ASU-57 and ASU-85 were being developed by the USSR. Airborne forces were being upgraded in order to provide more firepower and endure enemy armor counterattacks. As for the recoil, that could have been at least partially solved by a folding spade at the rear of the hull.
Qapla!
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsqRoger, flight leader!
Friggin love the trailer park boys inclusion at the end
It was the liquor that put it in.
If you want to see one in person, at the 45th national guard museum there's one. The museum is in oklahoma city
Seems the M56 was born too late. Probably have been great in WW2 helping the 101st airborne
Except they didn't have the aircraft to drop it with then....BIT of a problem! lol
@trooperdgb9722 couldn't it fit in the same gliders as the Locusts?
Thanks Johnny, I had not heard of the Scorpion. Obviously, someone in the head shed thought they had reinvented the wheel. But it looks a bit like what the Germans were doing with the Marder. Love your vids. Cheers
Awesome weapons history! Thanks for showing the real life weapon vs the fake movies too!
Yeah. I remember we had a model of one of those as kids.
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Boy acting in those movie clips was something...I don't want to see twice. 😁
Just a thought on The Recoil. I'll bet the crew was so pumped on adrenaline if they were actually engaging an enemy tank in that little thing, recoil would be their last concern! 😉
Trailer park Boys really needed more scenes with afvs.
Ive never heard of this. Pretty cool
Great use of TPB!
I'd never heard of this vehicle until I saw one at the Combat Air Museum in Topeka at Forbes Field. It's in pretty rough shape, but they are planning on restoring it.
There are clips of those in Airwolf.
They needed these in Normandy a big gun better than no gun.
1:41 as usual, interesting choice of War Thunder footage 😂
Is that 7 tons combat weight or do you have to drop the ammo and fuel separately?
I really enjoy your pocket history vids. Wondering if you plan on doing one on the Walther P38, as you've already done the Luger, the Nambu and the Allied Side Arms...?
Movies from the 80s were the best!☺
BTW, I believe it is Hell on the Battleground. Classic!!!
The mid 70s vibe is strong
1975, Liverpool Empire, Genesis, Phil Collins was on top form....😅😅
Man, Hell on the Battleground looks like a classic...
I love this thing it's so silly
Since it weighed tens of tons less than a regular tank, was it still likely to set off an anti-tank mine during the Cold War? Or were most anti-tank mines of the era designed to combat weighty vehicles in general?
Most AT mines were/are either triggered by a pressure plate that will go off if run over by anything heavier than several hundred pounds, or have a magnetic trigger. The fact that the M56 was "only" 7 tons (which is a huge amount of weight) wouldn't save it from AT mines in the slightest. ;)
That's not how pressure plates work. Pressure plates work on ground pressure, a mine that won't activate by infantry will not activate by a vehicle with the same or lower ground pressure as infantry.
You know it's rough when even the manual tells you it might be safer to get away from the vehicle when it fires!😂😂
A local museum had one, but I think they sold it a few years ago
Hey, Johnny, do you have a master watch list or spreadsheet of all the movies you mention or show in your videos?
Furry? Thats cool :D
I think the Germans did the same thing with the PAK 38 and PAK 40 as well as the flak 88
In terms of mounting them on unarmoured vehciles, yes. In terms of making them airborne, no.
A cute little tank ( Allo Allo's lt. Gruber quote)
One of a few vehicles where being attacked by a tank was less of a danger than being attacked by infantry ;-) This vehicle could fight tanks just like any other tank gun, but was very limited in capability when you had to engage infantry. No armour meant that even a rifle was as much of a threat as enemy tank gun. That blast plate could be shot through by a 7.62.
10 degrees of depression? That's rookie numbers. My shrink gave me at least 30 last time we talked.
Pretty much the bucker today but with less emphasis on anti infantry capabilities and more emphasis on and off range to range combat
please, what's the name of the drum music starting at 1:06?
Tribal War Council - Doug Maxwell
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq thx a lot
The M50 Ontos...
Does anybody remember Chromehounds for the xbox 360?
Looks like one of the hounds.
Literally the one on the game cover.
Under armored, underpowered, unpopular= Scorpion in nutshell
The acronym should have been:
Self Propelled Light Anti- Tank. 😂
What movies are featured?
With the problematic recoil in mind, I wonder if the Halo vehicle designers both in real life and in-universe actually compensated with their own Scorpion's gun position and armor build.
Didn’t expect the trailer park boys clip, I just know you’ve been waiting to use that lol
Smokes let's go
The end os AWESOME KKKK
It would take a brave crew to fight in such a unprotected vehicle. The Soviet SU76 had more armor protection, and it still was considered a death trap from exposure to shell fragments.
M56 is fun :) wish war thunder had a mechanic of airdrop when spawning m56 :)
The gun ejects the casing by itself, it also ejects the crew member from he's seat.
To anyone wondering why it's aptly named, just like the namesake, the "sting" is in the back, like the British fv101 & halo scorpion.
A tracked vehicle that can be rendered useless by pneumatic road wheels...brilliance
Any reference to TPB gets an upvote and a comment. Nice work.
I'll share my pepperoni with you any day.
Laughably, the Pinto being chased exploded quite well with getting hit.
I thought I have this thing in Warthunder.
The only vehicle in War Thunder you can spit on and get the kill.
I now have some B action movies to watch.
The tank from almost action movies.
if you haven’t already please do a video on the T-64
Idea: Tranquilizer guns (AKA dart guns) - in the movies.
Make one on the Locust airborne light tank.
What if the M56 Scorpion was equipped with a manual-loading IMI / OTO Melara 60mm High Velocity Medium Support (HVMS) gun?
M56 vs CATI 90, which is better?
Are the rubber tracks against lightning bolts?!
M50 Ontos in the Movies when? ;)
Really less known piece of equipment