I mean lets be real, the anime clips have as much war fantasy bullshit in them as the other movies. Only difference is the art style. If people are complaining about them then they shouldnt watch any war movie eather for "realism". Girls und Panzer especially has fantastic tank models that make the watch worth it on their own.
The thing is a lot of anime that involve tanks and firearms are insanely detailed. Hell Girls und Panzer had help from the Chieftain himself to get the accuracy of the tanks right. The fact that it’s animation actually helps because they can animate more detail and even tanks we can’t get in real life anymore
As for the Schürzen: Many german Panzers got them and they where only designed against AT-rifles. That it also worked against shape charges was a surprise and "we take it" extra
Yes exactly, schürzen was installed en masse on the Eastern Front long before shaped charges were a thing there. And for those that doubt the effectiveness of the Soviet ATR's (which were developed during the war, and were a grade heavier than most such pre-WW2 weapons), the fact that the Germans saw it necessary to burden their already over-taxed steel industry and logistical system with such an addition to most of their tanks, speaks volumes in itself.
@@Stripedbottom The Schürzen also covered the turret ring, a weak spot in tank design. How important covering that is to the germans? Look at the Leopard 1. With the 2. production lot they added a projectile deflector for the turret ring. That lot was produced with changes based on troop demands..
@@Stripedbottom Not to mention that the Russians used them in massive numbers. Most armies had one per platoon or so. Russians kept them grouped so dozens would engage a tank and try to damage anything they could like the cupola, vision blocks, machinegun ports, tracks. They were pretty nasty all things considered.
During the Battle of Kursk, PZ.IIIs were mostly tasked in protecting the Ferdinand tank destroyers that were considered “special weapons” against Soviet armour. (also including the Sturmpanzer.) At least 12 PZ.IIIs would protect those tank destroyers according to the sPzJgRgT 656 in the book “Ferdinand and Elefant tank destroyer” by Thomas Anderson.
That's very interesting. I thought I knew everything about Kursk. Of course those two 'monsters' were a tactical disaster in the end. Can you imagine had the Wehrmacht had just a few of them for 'Barbarossa'?! The same tactics would have been a DECISIVE factor in the early stage when the T-34s came into the Battle outside of Smolensk.
The number of good Pz 3 mock-ups that have been made is impressive, especially out of Eastern Europe. I always appreciate a good attempt at mock-ups that at least look the part, rather than slapping a balkenkreuz on a M-47 or M-48.
Pre-CGI doing mass scenes with german tanks was extremly costly. "Patton" and "Bulge" needed those. They COULD have asked the Dutch or germans for Leopard 1. Those make "useable" Panther surrogates quite easily (good enough for most mass scenes)
As an amateur ww2 tank historian, I love to see these vehicles. Would love to see more videos covering armoured vehicles. Alas, as you said most of the tanks in film are bizarre mockups.
The few runners of the P3 and P4 are in state run collections mostly. Hard to get them. Also they are not as famous despite being quite Important. A bit like M3 Lee/Grant or Cromwell/Comet that all played their part in WW2 and often important ones.
the panzer III was one of the biggest produced german tanks if you included the 10k of stug III produced(the panzer III chassis was picked for cut costs and being more flexible) alongside is many convertion and variants.
I love 2 things; 1.) In the scene where he references 'the superior training of German crews and unit cohesiveness', he shows a clip from a Bo Time Gaming video, whose squad is known for its terrible cohesion (which results in hilarious scenarios, making his content worth watching).t 2.) I and maybe 1 other person pointed out that the vehicle at 0:00 was actually a Pz IV, and somehow he reuploaded it before I had even finished the video. I wish all creators had that level of dedication to historical accuracy. Keep doin' whatcha been doin'!
i was going to comment the same thing with the training comment being over Bos clip. While he does tend to do well, their cohesion doesnt exist and its mostly panicked screaming and yelping and just luck they pull through.
I also really appreciated the bo time clip XD, best War Thunder content I have ever watched! And thank you for pointing out the panzer IV mitake, before I did. Things like this happen pretty often in tank videos that aren't from ConeOfArc :P
DAMN! - I LOVE "The Pianist" !! Probably one of the best "war"-movies ever done, even though it's not a true war-movie - just a story of survival during times of war, but...damn! ... it's a punch in the stomach.
Fun Fact: Japan purchased 2 Panzer III tanks along with a Panher Ausf. D and a Tiger tank. One Panzer III was armed with tye long barreled 5 cm gun and the other armed with the short 7.5 cm gun. None of the tanks Japan purchased would be shipped to the East but was somewhat influential in their late tank developments.
@@MsPysoul There was no submarine that could've shipped the Tiger even if it was dissembled. Plus, Germany couldn't afford to sell their tanks near the end of the war which they bought the Tiger tank back from the Japanese.
Being fascinated by tanks and tracked heavy construction equipment in general, as a kid, I decided back in the 1990's to build an all metal PZKW3. I had two plastic models of the tank on hand, one a 1/37th scale, the other 1/25th scale. I deliberately left them unassembled so I could take precision measurements for scaling up. I decided on going with a 1/12.5 scale, so that I only needed to double the dimensions of the larger plastic model. The (almost) finished tank is 20.5 inches long, 11.25 inches wide, and 8.5 inches high. I still need to fabricate the hatches on both sides of the turret, the circular hatch on top, design and fabricate geared mechanisms to rotate the turret and elevate/depress the gun barrel. The barrel is made of nickel-steel bored out for 22 caliber bullets. I will need to consult a gunsmith to have the components of a 22 cal. handgun mated to the barrel, designed so only blanks can be fired (for safety), assuming that would be legal. If not, I could probably come up with something that would make noise simulating a gunshot. The tracks were the hardest parts to fabricate. Each track has 56 articulated steel links. Each fully assembled track weighs 5 pounds, so together their combined weight is 10 pounds. All 12 road wheels have torsion bar suspension. The lower chassis is fabricated from mild steel, the side walls being 1/8th inch thick, and welded to a one piece 3/32 inch steel sheet that I shaped on a bending brake. The upper hull, turret, and track covers are entirely fabricated from aluminum plates. Getting the dimensions and angles of the turret sides precisely right was quite tedious, not to mention fabricating the gussets to join all the turret plates together at the proper angles. Geared 24 volt electric motors drive each track. With two batteries the all up weight is about 35 pounds, if memory serves.
This was a fantastic overview of the Panzer III and is a short enough video that many will enjoy it. Btw, Whitman, one of the greatest Tiger I aces, started off in a Sturmgeshutz and the need to aim the vehicle greatly improved his gunnery as he'd use the Sturmgeschutz tactics to bring his Tiger gun to bear then use the rotating turret for fine adjustment of the gun. This greatly increased the speed that he had to get his Tiger I gun onto a target. I also like how you mentioned that at first the Panzer IV was designed to support/complement the Panzer III and that it was the Panzer III that was intended to engage enemy armour but the small turret ring limited the size of the gun that could be fitted to the turret and thus the Panzer IV was upgunned.
My favorite tank of the war. Such a workhorse and early powerhouse on a solid design. It's crazy how many times it was upgraded to stay relevant and it was even given a supporting role with Tigers late in the war. Absolutely love the look of them too.
Late war PZ III’s (M & N) were given the short 75mm gun that used primarily high explosive shells. Many of these were assigned to Tiger battalions to protect the bigger tanks from infantry. The Italian fascist troops after 1943 also received some of these late models.
@@nathanwilcut3360 They were originally equipped with the 50L, but then were modified with the short 75 changing designation to N. These types were used for infantry suppression around Tiger battalions. Many given to the Italian fascists after the Armistice were the M and N models with short 75mm guns. M production (50mm armed) was reduced to produce more N models after June of 1942 as they were more effective.
@@michaeltelson9798 incorrect, Models J, L, M were modified to use the 75mm, once they had the 75mm, they were re designated as N. The N was never factory produced, all of them were retrofits taking vehicles from the field and changing their gun for the 75mm While you are very correct, you are completely wrong as the same time All M were 5cm, an N is a J, L, and M with a 75mm gun
@@jerryudonneedtoknow3903 Sites say that the M’s were reverted to N standard. A major difference in the M from the L was the river fording additions. Basically, the N and M were identical with the gun change, but the others were just gun and turret modifications but the chassis wasn’t upgraded to the M standard.
@@michaeltelson9798 Sites are too vague and largely incorrect. my sources come from Panzer Tracts and various other actual German documents such. on just simply looking at photos, you will find that the N was based of the Chassis of the J, L, and M. Some are hard to notice, looking upon the track guard, the engine louvers, the vorpanzer, or other various detail my tell which variants it was based upon. Simple details like the deep wading system can also show. The N was just an Ausf. J, L, or M with a 75mm gun. the Chassis of the J, L, and M are all different, some internal, other external. One such is with the Ausf. J (Late) or as others may refer to as J1, this has a different engine louver setup which had them laid out vertically, the L switched to a single piece hatch and had all the louvers face horizontally. Different headlights as the headlights for teh J, L, and M were all different, including some of the tail lights. The vortpanzer spaced armor differed on the J, L, and M. The vorpanzer was standardized on the L, but some J's had gotten it before. Notably on the J, turret vorpanzer, a second square slot was cut out for the loaders vision port, on the L and M, this cut was removed. In regards to the hull spaced armor, the M omitted the side plating of the vorpanzer and only just had the frame and the 20mm palte itself. Much of those sites are clobbered information with little understanding and/or omitting details
6:38 the girls' question "is it an H or a J ?". The H Schürzen were solid metal plates, the J Schürzen were made of metal mesh. Edit : from what I read on Wikipedia it's not so clear. The H version was reinforced by welding track links to the hull and adding the metal plates. For the J version they upgraded the armoured plating ot the tank itself and still added plates. If they still welded track links to the hull is not mentioned. And the mesh plates ? No mention of it though at some point these must have replaced the solid plates, to save weight (and hence fuel) and metal.
Holds true for the animee. IRL it might be a J that had lost the original ones and used replacement ones from a H or improvised ones. Unlike the bazooka plates on a Centurion the skirts are not screwed on but rather on hangers and get lost quite often/easily. That is why you see tanks wkh partial skirts quite often
@@VuLe-wi9kv According to Wikipedia : Redesignated Ausf. J equipped with long 5 cm gun, 20 mm stand-off armour plates on hull and turret front.[8] It was also equipped with a new system for transferring heated engine coolant to another vehicle.
This isn't War Thunder - the schurzen was a mix at best on most vehicles and it feels like you're referring to Panzer IV's mostly - a good chunk of IV J's didn't even have schurzen. The primary differences between the Ausf. H and J Panzer III's was an increase in the applique armour (bolted) on the front of the hull. The L is the same as a J with the longer 50mm (L/60). They were referred to as J1's before being redesignated to the L.
As for my first video here this was great. I enjoyed this very much as I've always been fascinated by tanks and the German Panzer Divisions alot, so thanks for this. This was a great and informative video. I didn't know the Panzer III was in so many movies and stuff, and the parts from Girls und Panzer were great since it is my most favorite anime.
A lot of mock ups are based on the British FV432 APCs. The Stug 111 is also created from the venerable 432. 'Saints and soldiers battle of the tanks' have 432 mock ups, you can tell by the wheels and the height of the hull.
love watching your videos with my husband he got me into his hobby of course i’m a fan of Girls Und Panzer. I hope you do a video about type-61 and 74s in movies
The Panzerkampfwagen III was actually first designed and used for tank to tank combat and the Panzerkampfwagen IV was used as the infantry support role early in the war but because the IV could accommodate a larger gun better than the III they swapped roles.
Yeah. However the problem of Panzer IV was that it was never meant to be mass-produced, so the design of the tank really have some quirks that was inefficient for mass production
the long barreled 50mm gun was not used till much later after the panzer 3 started production it was originally armed with a 37mm gun then got upgunned to a shortbarreled 50mm cannon, then got upgunned again to the long barreled 50mm gun to give it a fighting chance against newer tanks like the sherman, t-34 and kv-1/kv-2
GERMANS HAD 841PzIII AT START OF KURSK BATTLE.AND 950 PzIV. DISTRIBUTED AMONGST 20 TANK BATTALIONS each with about 88 *PzIII / PzIV tanks. Their was also 4 OTHER battalions with total 204 Panther+ 147 Tigers.
Great compilation and research as always. Yet, no matter how accurate tanks in historic movies might become, what film makers probably wil never ever get right is the speed and sound of tank gun fire. It is always "bang, muzzle flash, impact" even at the shortest distances. Since cannon fire travels multiple times the speed of sound, the target would be hit before one can hear the gun firing or see a muzzle flash. At such close range tank fights are depicted in films, the crew of the tank getting hit will be dead before hearing the shot, let alone be able to out-maneuver the opponent and fire back.
It’s great. A lot of obviously love for not only tanks but world war 2 military equipment in general. Plus plenty of historical references and marching songs.
A bit late but i also wanna add that apparently panzer III's that had working engines and could atleast move were converted into ammunition carriers towards the ends of ww2, They removed the turrets and just replaced the big opening with a wooden(?) Cover which could be opened to easily share ammo with other heavier friendly tanks such panzer IV's, panthers, tigers, stug's...ect. Im not sure if its true but to me it sounds like maybe some were also used to tow gun emplacements like the pak 40 with ammo inside around too?? Anyway i really appreciate your work johnny keep up the good work👍🏻 (Also my source is the Panzer III's Wikipedia page... Not sure how much of is correct but it seemed interesting so thought i would share)
Thanks again for another great video. Always thought Id seen most of the decent war movies out there, but you always seem to be able to come up with movies I haven't seen! Now I just have to try & hunt down the ones I haven't seen! Great work!
A bit of useless film trivia for you. The StuG 3 seen in Saving Private Ryan which was based on the British FV432 personnel carrier and was built by my mates dad who specialised in building full size vehicle props for the TV and film industry. Sadly it was the last project he did before he died. It was later sold to a private collector.
That’s a panzer 3 N a later model with side skirts and the panzer 4s old 75. This was done because the 50mm was becoming antiquated and there was a huge stockpile of 75mm short barreled guns from the panzer 4 refits
Panzer III, although quite overshadowed by or not as "exciting" as the Panzer IV, as grown on me as a high production number workhorse that fought alongside the Panzer IV, just like how I overtime grown to love the Shermans
I was hoping you would include the Flammpanzer III from Brestkaya Fortress and to my shock you did. You are the most cultured tank enthusiast when it comes to films, series and games! Hey, did you know the Panzer III in Panfilov's 28 Men were all CGI? They looked too detailed and I was blown away, thinking they made excellent reproduced Panzer III or found them in swamps somewhere and cleaned them up!
RC miniatures driving on miniature landscape sets filmed with programmable camera rig. Then augmented and composited with CG elements (muzzles, hit spall, falling snow etc)
I love that you ad the minecraft version of the tank. Its a cool little salute to how well known and loved the tank is. Also, did you get the footage from Garett2by4? He is a good builder, I love his video a lot.
Pretty sure the Saints and Sinners: The Void Panzer 3 is Panzerfabrik's mockup. Very cool repro. They even used to promote Girls und Panzer back when. It used to be short a road wheel but I think they upgraded it later on. The M18s are interesting - there was sadly a fatal accident in one of the few operational M18s in Oregon in 2015, one year after that film was made. Not sure if it was the same M18, but it might be as it was one of the only ones with an operational gun.
It was a different M18 that was involved in the fatal accident you're referring to. I know the owners of the two M18's in the S&S film and it wasn't one of theirs. IIRC, only one of the two in the film has a fully operational gun. The owner does still fire it with live rounds occasionally, but when he does so, he does it with a pull-rope and never occupies the vehicle when firing for safety reasons.
T-34 movie its just soo awesome, i presented it on my school presentation, i put some effort into saying the production names xD but it was pretty cool
"Battle Of The Bulge" 1965 had Spanish Pattons filling in for Tigers. Irony is a tank designed/ mnfd/ meant to take on German tanks in 1946, named after the hero of the Bulge, that eventually faced off to the Soviet allies cold war, in the service eventually of actual fascist..... stars in a film as its own original advisory. Irony.
Like any tank it's the crews training and how it's used. Like the American m-3 Lee tank. It was a important tank used in the Pacfic against the Japanese.
The Panzer III is so Underrated. It was an excellent medium tank until 1943. It was so good that is Chassis became the most Successfull Tank Killer in WW2, in the form of the StugIII.
Not gonna lie you should do a messerschmit 109 in movies video cause the plane is probably one of the most iconic planes of the war and its featured in tons of movies such as Dunkirk, red tails, pearl harbor, battle for sevastopol, even a mini series called a long long holiday
It was the StuG III that scored the most Allied tank kills at 30,000. 10,000 were built on a Panzer III chassis. As for the radio, it was a decisive factor for Victory for German tanks in not only in Operation Barbarossa but also in the battle of France in 1940. Much better in getting your orders inside the turret than in sticking your head out and getting it blown off.
Good job with this video! I am also glad you didn't say "Panzer Tank" which makes me go bananas, because I hear it so often (mostly from people that don't know much about the subject I guess)
I've often wondered why many British tanks were referred to or classed as 'cruiser' tanks, rather than light, heavy or medium... Johnny - do you think you could find out and maybe explain on the channel whenever you cover the British Cromwell or Crusader tanks?
Mostly because of tank Classification: The classification of tanks changed often prior to WW2, and only during that conflict the classification of Heavy-Medium-Light would become universal. The british used a 2-Class-Classification system for their tanks: Cruiser Tanks (Light and Medium Tanks) which were supposed to be a fast, independent unit essentially replacing Cavalry and Infantry Tanks (Heavy Tanks), which were supposed to support the attacking infantry (this would be your Mathildas and Churchills). The soviets even used 5 tank classes in 1935, also acording to use: Recon, Operational, Combined Arms, Breakthrough and "special purpose powerful tank".
There’s a series here on UA-cam, search “WWII diaries“. Right now, late May 2023, around 35 episodes into a 100 part series. The diary and memoirs of a Panzer III gunner on the eastern front. He does talk details, advantages, just advantages, etc. on these panzer III. Interesting
You omitted the scene in "Enemy At The Gates" where a Pz III is seen helping repel the Soviet charge : ua-cam.com/video/L8fWp-i-BGA/v-deo.html (about 1:10 on wards)
the variant the allies prob faced against in normandy were prob the n or m variants thats why you see them with sideskirts and heat screens on their turret the n variant uses a short barreled 75mm gun
germany converted every captured tank with captured russian 76 AT guns. They captured thousands and plenty of ammo. french tanks were used intact as their turrets were very crowded. the Sudetenland contained the Skoda Arms Company and their excellent T38 tanks and other equipment Even poland had some reusable tanks. most tanks with good carriages but under powered guns were converted to Marder 1,2,3 types. as well as ammo carriers.
The russian ZiS-3 76mm field gun was a very good weapon after all. The germans later even produced the ammo. Also had a solid HE round (it was somewhat "dual use")
@@mbr5742 It was respectable yes, and only used thanks to the abundant supply of captured weapons and ammo. The German 7.5cm Pak 40 was still preferred due to performance, familiarity, and supply lines. FWIW, regarding the Marder series of TD's: the longer the war went on the more likely the Marder mounted the German Pak 40 gun. The Marder I was all former Soviet F22 76mm guns, the Marder II mostly the same, and the Marder III was mostly German 7.5cm Pak 40.
From what i know the reason the panzer 3 wasnt used as often on the western front was because it was well known of its shortcomings after experiences in africa were panzer 3s had trouble destroying shermans tanks used by both the brits and the americans. On the eastern front however it was known that the T-34 armor quality was not the best as guns that shouldnt be able to kill such as 50mm pak and kwk guns did numerous times. In 1944 Most Tiger groups on the eastern front would be supported by a few panzer 3s. Usually they would be the N variants but there were times when the M was also used
Apparently, some people don't like seeing the animé clips. I say, if the artwork is accurate, then chuck it in. I like seeing a variety of sources.
I'm all for it. I try to expose as much media as I can on a subject so there is something new for everyone.
I mean lets be real, the anime clips have as much war fantasy bullshit in them as the other movies. Only difference is the art style. If people are complaining about them then they shouldnt watch any war movie eather for "realism".
Girls und Panzer especially has fantastic tank models that make the watch worth it on their own.
@@noobster4779 nailed it
After all this is titled ..."in the movies" so anime is valid. If one does P38 in the movies "The Men from UNCLE" would be valid as well
The thing is a lot of anime that involve tanks and firearms are insanely detailed. Hell Girls und Panzer had help from the Chieftain himself to get the accuracy of the tanks right. The fact that it’s animation actually helps because they can animate more detail and even tanks we can’t get in real life anymore
As for the Schürzen: Many german Panzers got them and they where only designed against AT-rifles. That it also worked against shape charges was a surprise and "we take it" extra
Exactly. Thanks for adding this!
Yes exactly, schürzen was installed en masse on the Eastern Front long before shaped charges were a thing there. And for those that doubt the effectiveness of the Soviet ATR's (which were developed during the war, and were a grade heavier than most such pre-WW2 weapons), the fact that the Germans saw it necessary to burden their already over-taxed steel industry and logistical system with such an addition to most of their tanks, speaks volumes in itself.
@@Stripedbottom The Schürzen also covered the turret ring, a weak spot in tank design. How important covering that is to the germans? Look at the Leopard 1. With the 2. production lot they added a projectile deflector for the turret ring. That lot was produced with changes based on troop demands..
@@Stripedbottom Not to mention that the Russians used them in massive numbers. Most armies had one per platoon or so. Russians kept them grouped so dozens would engage a tank and try to damage anything they could like the cupola, vision blocks, machinegun ports, tracks. They were pretty nasty all things considered.
@Leo Murray thanks Leo really appreciate it 🙏
During the Battle of Kursk, PZ.IIIs were mostly tasked in protecting the Ferdinand tank destroyers that were considered “special weapons” against Soviet armour. (also including the Sturmpanzer.) At least 12 PZ.IIIs would protect those tank destroyers according to the sPzJgRgT 656 in the book “Ferdinand and Elefant tank destroyer” by Thomas Anderson.
Yeah, it was not so much fun when the Russians realised the 1st tanks did not have a machine gun. They where sitting ducks.
@@someguy7629 SpzJgRgT656 yes
@@someguy7629 🤔😅🤣
That's very interesting. I thought I knew everything about Kursk. Of course those two 'monsters' were a tactical disaster in the end. Can you imagine had the Wehrmacht had just a few of them for 'Barbarossa'?! The same tactics would have been a DECISIVE factor in the early stage when the T-34s came into the Battle outside of Smolensk.
Ay cheers for this info shadowtrooper, Google had lots of info about the sPz Regiment 656.
The number of good Pz 3 mock-ups that have been made is impressive, especially out of Eastern Europe. I always appreciate a good attempt at mock-ups that at least look the part, rather than slapping a balkenkreuz on a M-47 or M-48.
Patton is certainly a hard film to watch the whole way through without laughing at those suspicious "tigers"
@@RunningWithRoses "Battle of the Bulge" had some tanks that were not German passing as panthers and Tigers.
Pre-CGI doing mass scenes with german tanks was extremly costly. "Patton" and "Bulge" needed those. They COULD have asked the Dutch or germans for Leopard 1. Those make "useable" Panther surrogates quite easily (good enough for most mass scenes)
Like the modern Leopard I in "A Bridge too far" ?
@@RunningWithRoses Better than not making the film at all just because there are NO real tigers to use.
As an amateur ww2 tank historian, I love to see these vehicles. Would love to see more videos covering armoured vehicles. Alas, as you said most of the tanks in film are bizarre mockups.
I will definitely add some more tanks in the near future
The few runners of the P3 and P4 are in state run collections mostly. Hard to get them. Also they are not as famous despite being quite Important. A bit like M3 Lee/Grant or Cromwell/Comet that all played their part in WW2 and often important ones.
@@mbr5742 I cannot think of a film depiction of the M3 Lee. Need to rewatch a bunch of movies :p
@@RolloTonéBrownTown I am getting old. The one movie where it can be found is on my desk in 1:35
Sahara (both the Bogard and the Beluschi version)
@@mbr5742 Cool! Thanks. I'll look it up
I love how you included Girls und Panzer
It's good fun
Its my fav anime >w
same ^w^
He included the d*b though
It's unrealistic
Eh, 2 years late, but I just like complainin' about what people find "fun" nowadays.
Funfact:
Even when the Panzer III was used alot during ww2 the Panzer IV was the only tank produced during entire ww2
the panzer III was one of the biggest produced german tanks if you included the 10k of stug III produced(the panzer III chassis was picked for cut costs and being more flexible) alongside is many convertion and variants.
And the IV was the last III. Reich tank, who saw action in forces. 1967 in the middle east...
I love 2 things;
1.) In the scene where he references 'the superior training of German crews and unit cohesiveness', he shows a clip from a Bo Time Gaming video, whose squad is known for its terrible cohesion (which results in hilarious scenarios, making his content worth watching).t
2.) I and maybe 1 other person pointed out that the vehicle at 0:00 was actually a Pz IV, and somehow he reuploaded it before I had even finished the video. I wish all creators had that level of dedication to historical accuracy.
Keep doin' whatcha been doin'!
Thanks man it means a lot to have my effort appreciated. I like being called out and am always happy to learn and make a correction. 🙏
i was going to comment the same thing with the training comment being over Bos clip. While he does tend to do well, their cohesion doesnt exist and its mostly panicked screaming and yelping and just luck they pull through.
@@KingTigerGuy Their 'battle buddy' system also works better than nothing, at least.
or possibly Panzer III Ausf N which sounds more likely due to the year the pianist was taking place in, but i dunno
I also really appreciated the bo time clip XD, best War Thunder content I have ever watched!
And thank you for pointing out the panzer IV mitake, before I did. Things like this happen pretty often in tank videos that aren't from ConeOfArc :P
DAMN! - I LOVE "The Pianist" !! Probably one of the best "war"-movies ever done, even though it's not a true war-movie - just a story of survival during times of war, but...damn! ... it's a punch in the stomach.
love that movie as well. make sure to bring the tissues..... and a can opener :(
Fun Fact:
Japan purchased 2 Panzer III tanks along with a Panher Ausf. D and a Tiger tank. One Panzer III was armed with tye long barreled 5 cm gun and the other armed with the short 7.5 cm gun. None of the tanks Japan purchased would be shipped to the East but was somewhat influential in their late tank developments.
I did not know that, thanks for sharing this with us all....E
I'm pretty sure that Tiger tank was shipped by a submarine but later sunk by allies.
@@MsPysoul There was no submarine that could've shipped the Tiger even if it was dissembled. Plus, Germany couldn't afford to sell their tanks near the end of the war which they bought the Tiger tank back from the Japanese.
Being fascinated by tanks and tracked heavy construction equipment in general, as a kid, I decided back in the 1990's to build an all metal PZKW3. I had two plastic models of the tank on hand, one a 1/37th scale, the other 1/25th scale. I deliberately left them unassembled so I could take precision measurements for scaling up. I decided on going with a 1/12.5 scale, so that I only needed to double the dimensions of the larger plastic model. The (almost) finished tank is 20.5 inches long, 11.25 inches wide, and 8.5 inches high. I still need to fabricate the hatches on both sides of the turret, the circular hatch on top, design and fabricate geared mechanisms to rotate the turret and elevate/depress the gun barrel. The barrel is made of nickel-steel bored out for 22 caliber bullets. I will need to consult a gunsmith to have the components of a 22 cal. handgun mated to the barrel, designed so only blanks can be fired (for safety), assuming that would be legal. If not, I could probably come up with something that would make noise simulating a gunshot.
The tracks were the hardest parts to fabricate. Each track has 56 articulated steel links. Each fully assembled track weighs 5 pounds, so together their combined weight is 10 pounds. All 12 road wheels have torsion bar suspension. The lower chassis is fabricated from mild steel, the side walls being 1/8th inch thick, and welded to a one piece 3/32 inch steel sheet that I shaped on a bending brake. The upper hull, turret, and track covers are entirely fabricated from aluminum plates. Getting the dimensions and angles of the turret sides precisely right was quite tedious, not to mention fabricating the gussets to join all the turret plates together at the proper angles. Geared 24 volt electric motors drive each track. With two batteries the all up weight is about 35 pounds, if memory serves.
Wow I want one.
Dude how cool!!!!
Dude! This is such a cool project.
Do you have a channel or website where you show the progress?
Would love to see it.
This was a fantastic overview of the Panzer III and is a short enough video that many will enjoy it.
Btw, Whitman, one of the greatest Tiger I aces, started off in a Sturmgeshutz and the need to aim the vehicle greatly improved his gunnery as he'd use the Sturmgeschutz tactics to bring his Tiger gun to bear then use the rotating turret for fine adjustment of the gun. This greatly increased the speed that he had to get his Tiger I gun onto a target.
I also like how you mentioned that at first the Panzer IV was designed to support/complement the Panzer III and that it was the Panzer III that was intended to engage enemy armour but the small turret ring limited the size of the gun that could be fitted to the turret and thus the Panzer IV was upgunned.
Thank you kindly and thanks for adding some great additional information!
_This content is frickin awsome thank you Johnny such a legend with the slick vids_ 🙌
Thanks brother. Really appreciate the kind words 🙏
My favorite tank of the war. Such a workhorse and early powerhouse on a solid design. It's crazy how many times it was upgraded to stay relevant and it was even given a supporting role with Tigers late in the war.
Absolutely love the look of them too.
That lil' 37mm looks so ridiculous in the big PzIII turret. Good vid.
The tank was designed to be upgunned to the 50mm (the german had a 50mm gun in planning/development since the mid 1930s for both tank and AT use)
ngl that minecraft depiction caught me off guard
It's back on UA-cam! :D
Wait what happen?
Late war PZ III’s (M & N) were given the short 75mm gun that used primarily high explosive shells. Many of these were assigned to Tiger battalions to protect the bigger tanks from infantry. The Italian fascist troops after 1943 also received some of these late models.
Panzer 3 m were armed with the 50L 60 gun. N had the short 75
@@nathanwilcut3360 They were originally equipped with the 50L, but then were modified with the short 75 changing designation to N. These types were used for infantry suppression around Tiger battalions. Many given to the Italian fascists after the Armistice were the M and N models with short 75mm guns. M production (50mm armed) was reduced to produce more N models after June of 1942 as they were more effective.
@@michaeltelson9798 incorrect, Models J, L, M were modified to use the 75mm, once they had the 75mm, they were re designated as N.
The N was never factory produced, all of them were retrofits taking vehicles from the field and changing their gun for the 75mm
While you are very correct, you are completely wrong as the same time
All M were 5cm, an N is a J, L, and M with a 75mm gun
@@jerryudonneedtoknow3903 Sites say that the M’s were reverted to N standard. A major difference in the M from the L was the river fording additions. Basically, the N and M were identical with the gun change, but the others were just gun and turret modifications but the chassis wasn’t upgraded to the M standard.
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Sites are too vague and largely incorrect.
my sources come from Panzer Tracts and various other actual German documents such.
on just simply looking at photos, you will find that the N was based of the Chassis of the J, L, and M.
Some are hard to notice, looking upon the track guard, the engine louvers, the vorpanzer, or other various detail my tell which variants it was based upon. Simple details like the deep wading system can also show.
The N was just an Ausf. J, L, or M with a 75mm gun.
the Chassis of the J, L, and M are all different, some internal, other external.
One such is with the Ausf. J (Late) or as others may refer to as J1, this has a different engine louver setup which had them laid out vertically, the L switched to a single piece hatch and had all the louvers face horizontally.
Different headlights as the headlights for teh J, L, and M were all different, including some of the tail lights.
The vortpanzer spaced armor differed on the J, L, and M. The vorpanzer was standardized on the L, but some J's had gotten it before. Notably on the J, turret vorpanzer, a second square slot was cut out for the loaders vision port, on the L and M, this cut was removed.
In regards to the hull spaced armor, the M omitted the side plating of the vorpanzer and only just had the frame and the 20mm palte itself.
Much of those sites are clobbered information with little understanding and/or omitting details
yes thank god this is my favorite tank in the whole war after being outdated after 1943
Very cool to see you featured my favorite War Thunder UA-camr, Bo Time!
Props for using girls und panzer footage. That is such a fun series.
6:38 the girls' question "is it an H or a J ?". The H Schürzen were solid metal plates, the J Schürzen were made of metal mesh.
Edit : from what I read on Wikipedia it's not so clear. The H version was reinforced by welding track links to the hull and adding the metal plates. For the J version they upgraded the armoured plating ot the tank itself and still added plates. If they still welded track links to the hull is not mentioned.
And the mesh plates ? No mention of it though at some point these must have replaced the solid plates, to save weight (and hence fuel) and metal.
Holds true for the animee. IRL it might be a J that had lost the original ones and used replacement ones from a H or improvised ones. Unlike the bazooka plates on a Centurion the skirts are not screwed on but rather on hangers and get lost quite often/easily. That is why you see tanks wkh partial skirts quite often
And how about the L one?
@@VuLe-wi9kv According to Wikipedia :
Redesignated Ausf. J equipped with long 5 cm gun, 20 mm stand-off armour plates on hull and turret front.[8] It was also equipped with a new system for transferring heated engine coolant to another vehicle.
@@flitsertheo uhh i see J and L is the same or sth? And im asking about the L not J lol
This isn't War Thunder - the schurzen was a mix at best on most vehicles and it feels like you're referring to Panzer IV's mostly - a good chunk of IV J's didn't even have schurzen. The primary differences between the Ausf. H and J Panzer III's was an increase in the applique armour (bolted) on the front of the hull.
The L is the same as a J with the longer 50mm (L/60). They were referred to as J1's before being redesignated to the L.
As for my first video here this was great. I enjoyed this very much as I've always been fascinated by tanks and the German Panzer Divisions alot, so thanks for this. This was a great and informative video. I didn't know the Panzer III was in so many movies and stuff, and the parts from Girls und Panzer were great since it is my most favorite anime.
Welcome to the channel space marine
A lot of mock ups are based on the British FV432 APCs. The Stug 111 is also created from the venerable 432. 'Saints and soldiers battle of the tanks' have 432 mock ups, you can tell by the wheels and the height of the hull.
love watching your videos with my husband he got me into his hobby of course i’m a fan of Girls Und Panzer. I hope you do a video about type-61 and 74s in movies
Only one war thunder clip is criminal
Wow girl und panzer AND the saga of tanya the evil jfc it's oh so good seeing anime being featured in this type of awesome historical content
Commendable Sir! Often times, your films outshine the movies they are extracted from. Carry on.
Well thank you sir 🙏
Love the Bo Time Gaming clip. I love when I see content from one of my favorite channels used like this on another great channel.
Bo's the man
The Panzerkampfwagen III was actually first designed and used for tank to tank combat and the Panzerkampfwagen IV was used as the infantry support role early in the war but because the IV could accommodate a larger gun better than the III they swapped roles.
Ummm ackshually the Panzer III was originally designed as an anti-infantry tank, which is why it was equipped with three machine guns.
@@foehawk-od4cc nice attempt at trolling
Yeah. However the problem of Panzer IV was that it was never meant to be mass-produced, so the design of the tank really have some quirks that was inefficient for mass production
Stug is my favourite WW2 vehicle by far.
Sofilein also loves the STUG.
I like that, at one point in the video, there is just a minecraft panzer III
the long barreled 50mm gun was not used till much later after the panzer 3 started production it was originally armed with a 37mm gun then got upgunned to a shortbarreled 50mm cannon, then got upgunned again to the long barreled 50mm gun to give it a fighting chance against newer tanks like the sherman, t-34 and kv-1/kv-2
GERMANS HAD 841PzIII AT START OF KURSK BATTLE.AND 950 PzIV. DISTRIBUTED AMONGST 20 TANK BATTALIONS each with about 88 *PzIII / PzIV tanks. Their was also 4 OTHER battalions with total 204 Panther+ 147 Tigers.
Great compilation and research as always. Yet, no matter how accurate tanks in historic movies might become, what film makers probably wil never ever get right is the speed and sound of tank gun fire. It is always "bang, muzzle flash, impact" even at the shortest distances. Since cannon fire travels multiple times the speed of sound, the target would be hit before one can hear the gun firing or see a muzzle flash. At such close range tank fights are depicted in films, the crew of the tank getting hit will be dead before hearing the shot, let alone be able to out-maneuver the opponent and fire back.
If you love tanks (and a bit of drama)Check out girls und panzer, it’s jam packed with tons of information and tank stuff
It’s great. A lot of obviously love for not only tanks but world war 2 military equipment in general. Plus plenty of historical references and marching songs.
GuP is amazing, you seen das finale? They personify the respective school countries way more then the series did lol
I haven’t seen it yet, but it sounds really good like you were saying
6:57 the fragmentation effect was pretty cool!
I did not expect to see minecraft used for footage here but i welcome it gladly
I love that video. It contained a lot of good film, even GuP and Bo time gaming (to my suprise). Btw do you know an english version for T-34?
A bit late but i also wanna add that apparently panzer III's that had working engines and could atleast move were converted into ammunition carriers towards the ends of ww2,
They removed the turrets and just replaced the big opening with a wooden(?) Cover which could be opened to easily share ammo with other heavier friendly tanks such panzer IV's, panthers, tigers, stug's...ect.
Im not sure if its true but to me it sounds like maybe some were also used to tow gun emplacements like the pak 40 with ammo inside around too??
Anyway i really appreciate your work johnny keep up the good work👍🏻
(Also my source is the Panzer III's Wikipedia page... Not sure how much of is correct but it seemed interesting so thought i would share)
I just subscribed, great channel! Congratulations, catching up. Great idea.
Thanks brother. Welcome to the channel!
Thanks again for another great video. Always thought Id seen most of the decent war movies out there, but you always seem to be able to come up with movies I haven't seen! Now I just have to try & hunt down the ones I haven't seen! Great work!
Thanks Nick! Hope you enjoy some new movies.
Man! That was great! After YEARS of of utter hatred I'm resolved to see the Mark 3 in a renewed respectful manner ☠👏
The war thunder clip is so iconic
The panzer 3's and 4's were also the backbone in late and mid war because they were cheap and germany were painfully trying to pump out tanks
If Germany uses Leopard 2 in every Blitzkrieg, English Tea Empire would have to use Mahatma Gandhi's nuclear slippers.
That settled that burning question....Achtung baby...
A bit of useless film trivia for you. The StuG 3 seen in Saving Private Ryan which was based on the British FV432 personnel carrier and was built by my mates dad who specialised in building full size vehicle props for the TV and film industry. Sadly it was the last project he did before he died. It was later sold to a private collector.
Well his work lives on! Great thing to leave behind to get so much use on film.
Loved the clip from Bo Time Gaming
Glad this vid popped up. Didn’t know about a few of these films but hopefully will be able to find them Netflix or Prime. Thanks for sharing this.
The Pz.III in the film was modified from the Pz.61, FV432, etc. I think those are very good jobs.
Absolutely!
Thanks for sharing such videos with us.
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0:27 One of the best Anime's out there if you like a lot of historical weaponry and in terms of map usage to make sure viewer knows what's going on
5:54 BO TIME GAMING! He is my favorite WT UA-camr!
"Warpigs" in which Mickey Rourke played a unique US army colonel.
well, actually the first clip is of a panzer IV, the early model with the infantry support configuration of the 75mm kwk gun
That’s a panzer 3 N a later model with side skirts and the panzer 4s old 75. This was done because the 50mm was becoming antiquated and there was a huge stockpile of 75mm short barreled guns from the panzer 4 refits
Panzer III, although quite overshadowed by or not as "exciting" as the Panzer IV, as grown on me as a high production number workhorse that fought alongside the Panzer IV, just like how I overtime grown to love the Shermans
I was hoping you would include the Flammpanzer III from Brestkaya Fortress and to my shock you did. You are the most cultured tank enthusiast when it comes to films, series and games! Hey, did you know the Panzer III in Panfilov's 28 Men were all CGI? They looked too detailed and I was blown away, thinking they made excellent reproduced Panzer III or found them in swamps somewhere and cleaned them up!
yah they did a solid job in my view! Thanks for the feed back Panther!
RC miniatures driving on miniature landscape sets filmed with programmable camera rig. Then augmented and composited with CG elements (muzzles, hit spall, falling snow etc)
Awesome video, could you do more video’s about tanks in WW2?
... videos* (plural, no apostrophe)
Please make videos about the *F-22 RAPTOR* Fighter Jet, and the *IJN YAMATO* Battleship.
I should be able to do that
A WWII movie with Dolph?!
Sign me up
I love that you ad the minecraft version of the tank. Its a cool little salute to how well known and loved the tank is.
Also, did you get the footage from Garett2by4? He is a good builder, I love his video a lot.
My favorite light tank ever.
The Anime at 3:56 is Girls and Panzer
I’m so glad the 2cm flak showed up in my recommends because now I’ve binge watched all your videos and love your content. Keep it up bud
Hey thanks man! Welcome to the channel
in the restoration scene we call those mockups, "vizmods"
... If you know, you know
Girls und Panzer Pz.3 scene was hilarious 😆
Cool vid Johnny. Tanks for sharing !
Well tank you for your service US navy veteran 🙏
Pretty sure the Saints and Sinners: The Void Panzer 3 is Panzerfabrik's mockup. Very cool repro. They even used to promote Girls und Panzer back when. It used to be short a road wheel but I think they upgraded it later on. The M18s are interesting - there was sadly a fatal accident in one of the few operational M18s in Oregon in 2015, one year after that film was made. Not sure if it was the same M18, but it might be as it was one of the only ones with an operational gun.
It was a different M18 that was involved in the fatal accident you're referring to. I know the owners of the two M18's in the S&S film and it wasn't one of theirs. IIRC, only one of the two in the film has a fully operational gun. The owner does still fire it with live rounds occasionally, but when he does so, he does it with a pull-rope and never occupies the vehicle when firing for safety reasons.
T-34 movie its just soo awesome, i presented it on my school presentation, i put some effort into saying the production names xD but it was pretty cool
"Battle Of The Bulge" 1965 had Spanish Pattons filling in for Tigers. Irony is a tank designed/ mnfd/ meant to take on German tanks in 1946, named after the hero of the Bulge, that eventually faced off to the Soviet allies cold war, in the service eventually of actual fascist..... stars in a film as its own original advisory. Irony.
There are some nice shots of Mk. III mock ups in _Enemy At The Gates_
Like any tank it's the crews training and how it's used. Like the American m-3 Lee tank. It was a important tank used in the Pacfic against the Japanese.
The Panzer III is so Underrated.
It was an excellent medium tank until 1943.
It was so good that is Chassis became the most Successfull Tank Killer in WW2, in the form of the StugIII.
Not gonna lie you should do a messerschmit 109 in movies video cause the plane is probably one of the most iconic planes of the war and its featured in tons of movies such as Dunkirk, red tails, pearl harbor, battle for sevastopol, even a mini series called a long long holiday
Absolutely on my list
It was the StuG III that scored the most Allied tank kills at 30,000. 10,000 were built on a Panzer III chassis.
As for the radio, it was a decisive factor for Victory for German tanks in not only in Operation Barbarossa but also in the battle of France in 1940. Much better in getting your orders inside the turret than in sticking your head out and getting it blown off.
Outstanding video and presentation
Thank you sir!
Good job with this video! I am also glad you didn't say "Panzer Tank" which makes me go bananas, because I hear it so often (mostly from people that don't know much about the subject I guess)
Thank you for video sir
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I’ve actually ridden on of the pz3 ((m?) sideskirts and turret skirt) with the marking II04 that you showed afew times in this video
Me hearing English dub Miho try and identify a Panzer 3: Pain >///
Isn't it sayori?
@@Traum278 yeah i think it is, i'd have to watch GuP again
My ass would never be caught dead watching girls and panzer
It was cool seeing footage from Bo’s videos :D
Cool video. What is happening around 1:54?
Oddly, Panzer 61 does look like the E-50 more than the earlier Panzer IMO
Hey I just discovered your channel and I'm loving it idk if you have done it yet but if you didn't can you do the M2HB Browning .50 cal machine gun
Thanks man! I've been saving the 50 for when I really have time as it's a big project. Tons of history and footage to go through :)
I've often wondered why many British tanks were referred to or classed as 'cruiser' tanks, rather than light, heavy or medium... Johnny - do you think you could find out and maybe explain on the channel whenever you cover the British Cromwell or Crusader tanks?
Mostly because of tank Classification: The classification of tanks changed often prior to WW2, and only during that conflict the classification of Heavy-Medium-Light would become universal. The british used a 2-Class-Classification system for their tanks: Cruiser Tanks (Light and Medium Tanks) which were supposed to be a fast, independent unit essentially replacing Cavalry and Infantry Tanks (Heavy Tanks), which were supposed to support the attacking infantry (this would be your Mathildas and Churchills). The soviets even used 5 tank classes in 1935, also acording to use: Recon, Operational, Combined Arms, Breakthrough and "special purpose powerful tank".
keep up the vids 👍
Thank you !
Seconded
Honestly i can relate to Saori
Idfk if its a J or H either
There’s a series here on UA-cam, search “WWII diaries“. Right now, late May 2023, around 35 episodes into a 100 part series. The diary and memoirs of a Panzer III gunner on the eastern front. He does talk details, advantages, just advantages, etc. on these panzer III. Interesting
The best looking tank of ww2.
I like how you said panzerkampfwagen
excellent job
Super video. I love your channel💙💙
Thanks Adam 🙏
You omitted the scene in "Enemy At The Gates" where a Pz III is seen helping repel the Soviet charge : ua-cam.com/video/L8fWp-i-BGA/v-deo.html (about 1:10 on wards)
I had a quick scene from that film but yes I did forget the charge. Pretty great scene.
It added a touch of authenticity!
Please make video on dp28
Good stuff, as always.
the variant the allies prob faced against in normandy were prob the n or m variants thats why you see them with sideskirts and heat screens on their turret the n variant uses a short barreled 75mm gun
As a war thunder player its nice to see some wt clips in there lol. Ill def check out some of these tank movies which i haven't seen yet
germany converted every captured tank with captured russian 76 AT guns. They captured thousands and plenty of ammo. french tanks were used intact as their turrets were very crowded. the Sudetenland contained the Skoda Arms Company and their excellent T38 tanks and other equipment Even poland had some reusable tanks. most tanks with good carriages but under powered guns were converted to Marder 1,2,3 types. as well as ammo carriers.
The russian ZiS-3 76mm field gun was a very good weapon after all. The germans later even produced the ammo. Also had a solid HE round (it was somewhat "dual use")
@@mbr5742 It was respectable yes, and only used thanks to the abundant supply of captured weapons and ammo. The German 7.5cm Pak 40 was still preferred due to performance, familiarity, and supply lines. FWIW, regarding the Marder series of TD's: the longer the war went on the more likely the Marder mounted the German Pak 40 gun. The Marder I was all former Soviet F22 76mm guns, the Marder II mostly the same, and the Marder III was mostly German 7.5cm Pak 40.
Nice thanks you Jhonny Boy 🤓👍🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
From what i know the reason the panzer 3 wasnt used as often on the western front was because it was well known of its shortcomings after experiences in africa were panzer 3s had trouble destroying shermans tanks used by both the brits and the americans. On the eastern front however it was known that the T-34 armor quality was not the best as guns that shouldnt be able to kill such as 50mm pak and kwk guns did numerous times. In 1944 Most Tiger groups on the eastern front would be supported by a few panzer 3s. Usually they would be the N variants but there were times when the M was also used