Inside the Chieftain's Hatch: M56 Scorpion Part 1
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2015
- Part 1 of the two-part tour of the M56 Self Propelled Anti-Tank gun.
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As a tanker (driver) and a historical vehicle enthusiast I'm so glad you make these videos. I love seeing the different approaches to vehicle designs by different countries throughout the years. Seeing the interiors of the vehicles and going over the driver maintenance aspect of these vehicles really makes it real, when you're out in the field the tank is your home. The material you cover is often overlooked or hard to find and I'm glad you do your videos in the format you do.
Thank you!
No need to explain yourself mate. As a member of the army in Australia and in particular the artillery, I find all the attention to detail with maintenance very interesting.
Keep on showing all the technical details please. A bit of info on the battle history is great also, but all of the fantastic technical details really makes me appreciate the engineering that went into the vehicle design as well as the skill of the crews who manned these tanks and the mechanics who kept these vehicles ready for battle.
That being said, I can't believe that they didn't armor this vehicle. Wow! Sadly the U.S. Army Airborne forces STILL don't have a capable air-deployable light tank to replace the old M551 Sheridan. Meanwhile the Russians have a BMD based 120mm mortar/assault gun system and now, as well, have the new 125mm Sprut light tank capable of destroying most MBT's (while also serving as an assault gun for airborne infantry fire support).
We have the MGS Stryker system, but it leaves much to be desired (and does not meet the requirements as an airborne light tank). It also only has a 105mm cannon which unlike the Sprut, can not defeat Russian tanks equipped with ERA. It's designed more as an infantry support vehicle. Even at that job, it's lack of being able to use a short-length barrel means that it 's difficult to use in narrow alley ways in a MOUT environment without accidentally damaging the barrel on obstacles (houses, telephone poles, compound walls, etc...).
For all the money the U.S. military spends, we waste a tremendous amount of money and lag way behind Russia in many areas. Meanwhile Russia has rapidly caught up in terms of technology in their latest armored vehicles (to include active ATGM/RPG suppression systems that we still haven't fielded yet).
It's kinda depressing.
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@@committosterbath8833 How so? Nothing I sad has changed. America still lacks an airborne capable light tank to replace the old Sheridan light tank. The Russian Sprut light tank is still more capable than any light tank that Western countries field with the exception of the Swedish CV90120. Likewise from what we know of the Russian Armata heavy tank, it still seems to be the most advanced tank in the world in terms of sensors, protection systems, and survivability of crew. At least on paper. We're still waiting to see if Javelins toast the crew.
Maybe he was referring to the Army's new mobile protected firepower system, which is specifically made to support light infantry.
@@AmgosrPig4384 That new light tank is a good vehicle, however it is still inferior in almost every way to the Russian Sprut light tank. The only area where it is superior is in its protective armor which is significantly heavier than the Sprut. But against any modern Russian or Chinese MBT, it would get obliterated. It's purely for infantry support and to take out enemy IFV's. They should have given it a TOW-2 side turret launcher like on the Bradley. That way, at least in an emergency, it would have the potential of taking out enemy tanks.
The M56 saw combat service with U.S. forces in the Vietnam War. It was deployed with the 173rd Airborne Brigade, which was the only Airborne Brigade deployed with the M56, where it was used mainly in a direct fire-support role. Its function as an air-mobile, self-propelled, anti-tank vehicle.
Another interesting review Nick :) . I have say that it is the technical details which make this series so great, keep it up!
I like you talking the work that goes into keeping these vehicles running.
I love Chief's vids, but the interminable music is like water torture.
I would do music for Nicholas
Finally, it's been a while since the last Inside the Hatch.
Good to see you back, Chieftain!
Don't care about what others say, I enjoy all the little details you add to your videos. Being an old tank man myself, crewed M-60's myself for the Marine Corps, your vids are great.
I'm here for all the information;) not for battle stories. It's like a documentary, you watch it because of all the little numbers and details, even if you'll never need them. It's curiosity^^
DerKrawallkeks exactly, so never change (unless for the better ofc ;) )
yep;)
+DerKrawallkeks Exactly! These videos contain information that you might be able to find in archive somewhere or by talking to veteran but archives take up time and are not easily accessible and veterans are a perishing resource.
I love to hear stories behind these machines and how, and, what it takes to operate them in field. That is something you can't find from wikipedia (ugh).
+DerKrawallkeks It's always in the details, details, details. You can look at a vehicle and think you know what something was used for or how it was serviced, but until someone with specialist knowledge actually shows you, you cant actually know for sure. This goes for many subjects, were you can learn from a book or a video, but nothing replaces being shown "hands on" in detail.
Yeah but war isnt fought on paper... war stories are more interesting imo. you can get the stats from the internet
I think the technical talk is essential. Please keep doing it. Real-world application and history is important as well of course.
The attention given to manufacture and basic vehicle operation and is key in these videos I reckon. Great video Chieftain.
I liked the commentary like it always has been. You can read the common shit about "how awesome the gun was" and "how it performed in combat" pretty much anywhere the vehicle is mentioned online, but it isn't often you get an opportunity to hear let alone see the intricacies of keeping the vehicles running.
I, personally, love all those little details you give us. It really helps to understand how complicated those machines are and how much it takes to keep them up and running.
Another great vid Chief. Keep up the good work and all the info that you give is great.
Cheers,
In response to your detour: I love that your videos cover technical bits on these tanks. These details give character to the tank being seen, and they give insight to what it must be like to actually live with these things. I've worked on a tank at museum, and the technicality of it blew me away. Thank you for sharing these details.
"... And used to protect airheads!" Which is presumably why it's near Los Angeles. Boom! Thank you very much, I'm here all week.
Personally I like all the small little details about caring for the vehicles. The guns and combat history are something you can learn about anywhere, but learning about the vehicle itself is something you don't often get to do. It also gives you an appreciation of just how much work crews had to do outside of actually fighting. Not to mention I also like hearing things like "plenty of sleeping space on this one," or "the TC could kick the gunner in the back of the head," and other things like that. I know this comment is over a year late, but I'm still enjoying learning all this from you, even though I don't play WoT.
I was a 19E on M-60A3 & A1 tanks in the 80's. I love these videos even if I do tend to remember thrown tracks and changing engine packs more than I do the days and nights on the range feeding that M-68 105mm rifle.
The skirts on our M1 would sometimes collect mud and sand which would throw our tracks.
Use to joke about how we'd be better off just having a team of horses pulling us into battle.
dont change a thing! I like all the info you give when doing your walk arounds!
I loved the detour at 8:12. Two related points come to mind. First, the discussion on arty and the disconnect from actual aiming and firing systems. The details concerning how people figured out the challenges of lobbing a shell five miles is fascinating. Second, as a personal quest, I want to learn more about the experiences of TD crews in the larger Soviet models. How, for instance, did they have any ear drums left? The ISU 152 - truly amazing looking - but what about the health condition of the crew inside the steel box that housed the monster gun? What was the blast like? I think it would have been an awful contraption at the quietest of times. Great videos!
*FINALLY* a new one, please PLEASE make many more of these videos as they are the best ones of all WG channels.
Oh and keep expanding on all the details, that is why we are here after all. If we want to know how awesome the gun is we'd play WoT or WT.
If anyone lives in the Las Vegas area, there actually is one of these at Battlefield Vegas along with a chieftain turned into a M1 Abrams movie prop, a T-54/55, an m4a1, and a few others SPGs. Thanks for the review!
I like it how you present the vehicles. Keep up the good work.
I cried laughing at "the magic of editing" part. Good work.
You laughed so hard you cried?
I think you do an excellent job, Mr Moran! Please keep the superb content coming
Yeah, I like the addenda.
As an armchair historian I have plenty of glowing testimonials in archive . . . how great the Lee was . . . why the S-35 was considered the best tank in the world . . . why the Char 2C was a world beating idea . . . but precious little about the day to day logistical needs and the eccentricities and/or peculiarities of any particular design. Thanks for posting all the interesting bits.
I for one appreciate the detail you go into. Thank you
awesome vids...i sooo like the details, because i am tech intrested, so to see how these tanks work, and how you keep them working, makes a diference in quality. keep them rolling
Yess! Chieftains hatch is back!! Awesome!
The point about the effort it takes to keep equipment running is a great one. I was artillery instead of tanks, but the point holds true on our end, too. Takes a lot of time to keep a M777 or M198 and the prime mover rust free and reliably working. Got to be fun with a turbine engine hidden down inside the armor of something like an Abrams. Keep on with the in depth analysis though, I appreciate the trivia.
main reason I'm subscribed is the information, your videos are great as they are. that part about moving the exhaust to access the batteries is just classic after thought, i'd never have known that from a book though!
Where do you think he learned it? He wasn't born with all this in his head, and I doubt he learned anything from the military other than what pertained to his own service. I gather he learns a lot of what he relates by reading the manuals for the vehicles....which are books. And also the source most technical authors use. So it entirely depends on which book.
I personally dig the small details, and I am glad you go through them :)
That was a dandy machine,very fast and reliable my unit used it for recon ,no gun was mounted for our purpose,the brakes would stop right now. The year was 1959 Hunter Liggett California.
HE'S BACK
great video, nice job
Hey, I've been to Tankland. Yay!
Honestly, knowing all thee in & out of a vehicle, track tensions, transmission access and such, is just as interesting as the gun performance. Sure, i love talking about armement.
But it's much more interesting to "understand" a vehicle to know amount of maintenance required, what it takes to drive it, and such.
Its nice to have an opinion, even nicer to have the same... go exactly on like this, i like it :)
I like your video's Nick. Make them however you want.
Thank you Great info. Sir. God Bless.😊
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Inside the Hatch is back
I like listening to the technical information personally. The thought process behind vehicle design is really interesting.
I've actually volunteered at this particular museum before, and they have a pretty well-preserved (at least, on the outside) specimen of an M53/55 SPG. Any chance that it will show up on future episodes of Chieftain's Hatch?
i like when he say all about the tank i very very like it, it's like a fantastic documentary for me^^
well love this series and someday hope I can drive some tanks from what I learn :D
I would imagine that it won't ever become apart of any game, but Have you found the Sgt. York. I would think in the 20 years I saw it at the Aberdeen Proving Ground Museum it would be on display. But in the new home of the Ordinance at Ft. Lee, Virgina. I do understand it was an utter failure but might work for world of tanks...
awesome stuff :)
The info that you tell ist the stuff that I think is intresting if I want to know more about the history I just search on it.
knowing what oil goes where is important. my 1st day at my cadre unit.. i put hydraulic fluid in the oil. i got to learn the lube order...real well.
i've been to this museam before and it also has a torpedo launcher, 2 five inch navel guns, a m53/55, and 2 or 3 different propellers.
Yeah, like the others said, keep up the comments like you have been doing. We like it.
Continental AOI-402 also means it is an aircraft engine, a typical opposed-cylinder air cooled six. Not a surprising choice for a vehicle that seems to make light weight by far the first priority. It is a bit surprising how many tanks use aircraft engines or derivatives though. All the various radial engines like the R-975, even the diesel variants, the Ford GAA and GAF was derived from an aero engine, as was the Meteor. I guess high specific power, small size, light weight and reliability (and availability/cost) were all in favor of aircraft engines.
And come to think of it, I believe the turboshaft in the M1 Abrams is also derived from an aero turbine engine family.
When this thing was air-dropped was that with crew on board? Watching that video where it is dropped from a C-119 I'd consider that a significant emotional event for the crew...
I like the technical details. Its separates you from dick wads like quickie baby. After all this is not a game. Thank you and keep up the great work
the issue with many American tanks in the 50's and 60's is that they were obsessed with the air drop tank. it really created some interesting designs but they were all fairly problematic
ELC next please
FINALLY!
80 octane? Wow I didn't realize it was so low back then.
NOVA The L134 in the WW2 Jeep was rated to run on 67 octane.
I like the mechanical details. If you've ever depended on a machine you need to understand its care and feeding. Otherwise your going to be on foot in short order.
So where exactly is the hatch on this thing?
We'll done
Hey chieftain do you think it'd be possible to get your hands on a T90A :D
is that the sheridan next to it? do it next pls
Nicholas, I love your videos, and I understand you are making these vids mainly for the WG NA server population, but could you at least add metric data in anotaions when you go over the pits and pieces of technical data? It would be much appreciated by us WG EU server pops. :)
It's soooo cute!
Have you reviewed the M92?
'Anything more heavily armoured than a bush'
Didn't I watch this like couple months ago?
Did anyone else notice the Sheridan in the back round
Hey! 4:44 T49!!! We want a inside the T49 video!
+Russki That's a M551 Sheridan.
The shocks from hitting bumps or firing...or I assume from dropping to the ground at several meters per second after being dropped via parachute. Lack of armor is not really surprising, this is strictly a mobile mount for an AT gun, and basically a pure compromise meant to give airborne troops SOMETHING they can kill tanks with. Full armored vehicles just weren't an option, and half armor is basically worthless. Might as well go all or nothing, and get some speed and mobility out of it. That and it was just not possible to air drop anything heavier.
I don't remember this being in SANABI
I've met the people that don't care about oil capacities. For them PMCS means " park the mother, call the shop".
Is that a T49 light tank behide him? The one where it is writen "Destoryer" on the barrel?
Daniel Jensen Looks like a Sheridan. Same turret as the WoT T49 though
James Leyshon Okay, it is because it looks like it
+Daniel “Danspy501st” Jensen T49 doesn't exist necessarily IRL... Ingame, it is, for all intents and purposes, a Sheridan.
***** Huh?
Daniel Jensen basically the T49 is fake and that its a sheridan
wasn't this uploaded a few days ago?
Sarin Highwind always goes up first on Wargaming's channel.
oh forgot that i was subbed to both.
Sarin Highwind It was up few months ago when they thought they will release the scorpion
nooo I want to watch out now ):
omg he's right next to my house :D!!!!!!!!!!!!
He wants to bang the vehicle in the tailpipe.
That's why he is getting pissed.
Suitable for robo tank
We need this in WoT.........
Not soon enough....... the I can remember playing it in the Test server a few patches ago.... the american TD tree needs a premium crew trainer, right now it only has the T28 Concept which is........... bearly adaquate.
+Gassy German it already is mines... After the test server
T49 in the background
This is in WoT, but hasn't been released.. Now they are doing a German Scorpion?? Good lord, Keep adding German premium tanks, but not a single American one. I need a premium tank to help out my E3 and E4 crews. Not some piss ass 3 person Tier 4 TD.
First! Sooo...let's watch the video;)
This place lets you rent tanks. I live by here. Hmmmmmm...
Los Angeles. Not Los Angeleeeeeeeeeeeees. It's ok because you are from Ireland.
Military R&D is like using your tax money on Roulette where 'Red' is corruption and 'Black' is incompetence.
I care how much oil it has.. ! :-D
Dat T49 behind him tho..
+Silly Sombra
That is a proper M551, not a T49
Synvy No one cares.
Silly Asriel that's not a T49...it's an M551 Sheridan
Silly Asriel noone cares yet everyone replied implying that they do. Also, its a M551
Cancer tank
What a shit vehicle! the airborne drop-shock would probably break it before it reached the battle.