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If you wanna watch the black & white animation without the black borders croping everything out just put on the colorized version then change your TV's settings to be in black & white and change the aspect ratio to 4:3
Who spoke?! WHO QUESTIONED THE DALEK COMMAND!!! Dude this has to be one of the most menacing line I've heard from a Dalek so far. Like they get so INSANELY PISSED OFF after having his orders questioned. The emperor is also pretty good.
About the whole the daleks not knowing the doctor isn’t human, that was more of a general thing with the show at the time where the doctor wasn’t definitively an alien, the change between the first doctor to the second for example was described more as a rejuvenation rather than regeneration into a different man, and in several first doctor stories there are contradicting remarks about whether the doctor actually created the tardis or not with it some times being eluded to that it’s just a machine from the future nothing more.
yeah as well as this another thing that should be took into account is that at the time it was kinda expected for the viewers to have a foggy memory of what happened in the last episode since it took place a whole week before the newest one, so a lot of the specifics aren't really meant to be looked into with such detail or how watchable they all are in a row, they were expected to just be seen once and thats kinda how you should go into watching it and I feel it should really only be analysed at face value
Thank you so very much for doing this amazing job! I lost my Dad (Sonny Caldinez - Kemel) in April 2022, so this makes this so very comforting to me. Please keep up the good work on pulling together the lost episodes with your animation wherever possible.
The late Roy Skelton made his first Dalek voice debut here, And voices the Daleks 'Whenever the crew members got him' throughout the classic series up until the comic relief special 'The Curse of Fetal Death.'
I think the single Dalek coming back at the end is a bit more clear. The original flashing light never said "life" to me. To me it said "the casing is broken and sparking". I think maybe it should have been the Emperor's eyestalk that we saw reactivate, instead of a random drone, just because it's, I think, assumed that the new series Emperor is the same Emperor as the one from "Evil of The Daleks".
I saw this over Christmas and I do agree with a lot of the original review - it *is* very convoluted, but it's so epic I can forgive the issues. The way it combines so many different styles and genres is commendable, and I adore the way David Whitaker writes the Daleks. It's a Jamie showcase. Really, really, solid stuff.
Going off expanded media & various canon sources, I'd place this story right at the end of the 41st century in the Daleks own personal timeline. After decades of fighting, this is how they lost the "Great Dalek War" set up in The Daleks Master Plan It may not be their "final end" but Skaro is left abandoned for hundreds of years...until the Movellan war forces the Daleks back home, to dig up Davros (events of Destiny)
It's funny how episode 5 ends with the 3 Daleks playing trains with the Doctor, got to be the weirdest cliffhanger since the one from Dragonfire where the Doctor purposely let's himself hang by his umbrella
Evil of the Daleks is my all time favourite story. It has problems, but so do all stories. It’s what it does so well that makes me love it as much as I do.
I assumed Waterfield was using the 1960s money he earned at his antique shop to buy items that would have value in his own time like precious metals or jewels.
me: ok this animation recreation is pretty cool and good, but do they even show the daleks giving the doctor a ride??? 14:29 me: YESSS BEST EPISODE EVER
17:34 I think camel gets a slightly worse a job than toberman. At least toberman got lines of dialogue. Only sound camel makes is when he's pushed off the cliff at the end.
Kemel was undoubtedly created as the series' version of Oddjob, since Bond had become the standard by which fantasy action/adventure was measured. However, finding musclemen who could act and enunciate dialogue was difficult, hence they were mute and probably foreign because there weren't that many British performers that well-built - unless your name was Dave Prowse.
very nice re-view, did you ever read the comic story that follows one of the Daleks that survives from this episode? if not you should its really good.
The Doctor was never gonna implement exactly the same traits that Jamie showed in the rescue mission, he was always gonna exaggerate and add a few traits of his own
I totally agree with you about the padding out to make it fit 7 parts. Both this and Power of the Daleks could have made very tightly plotted and action packed 4 parters rather than drawn out as they are now.
I enjoyed this story (was given the Blu-ray as a present) but don't understand why the animators made Waterfield look like Dracula: he doesn't in the remaining episode.
How many stills and other references did the animation team have to work with? I ask because it affects a lot of things . They can't do shot for shot exactly as it was. You only have half the original performance for certain ( voice) , camera angles , lighting, shooting positions, framing Will all be affected. In this era when we have two filmed versions of unearthly child, and DVDs of modern films come with outtakes, we are spoiled for seeing what can change, for being able to appreciate how a production evolves into the form we see. I realize that unless missing episodes return, which we've no garuntee of, this is our best version, I just find myself wondering how they go about trying to produce it. Another thing, the method seems to have been mostly flash animation and under tight budget.( With the last bit going without saying if course .) As a fan of animation, I can tell you that also affects performances, the characters move differently depending on your animation choices. It can even tie into camera and shot framing. Finally I do enjoy that they chose coulor images. It kind of makes the 60s psudohistoric designs work better, particularly because although it's colour it's not a garish pallete like the real 60s used. It's as if footage of that era was run through a grading filter to tone it down just enough, and it works in my eyes .
You might have quoted someone's salary as a number of guineas per week even in the sixties. Although it was no longer a coin, certain things were still priced in guineas, a guinea amounting to one pound and one shilling.
This DOCTOR WHO story is a lot like TWILIGHT ZONE and DARK SHADOWS. with a bit of Jean Cocteau. It almost has a dream logic. Has anyone noticed how it is almost a ghost story? - What with the mysterious goings on in that house? If the Daleks could have been kept off screen for a couple of episodes, it could have worked better as some sort of a ghost story - it is almost MR James - it might have worked if it kept the Daleks as a mysterious unseen presence for a while. This story shows why people like time travel stories in general and DOCTOR WHO in particular - you can generate incredible surreal situations - Daleks trundling about a Victorian mansion! I don't understand why the son_in_law character with the Dalek mind control device couldn't eat or drink. I remember enjoying in the original transmission seeing Daleks getting their tops blown off and exposing the creature.
It means a at the very least parts of the episodes/stories are lost. Note:All the 60s era stories still fully exist in audio form, but many stories have partially or fully lost visuals.
You're lucky the BBC haven't taken your review down, when I reviewed the animation it was up for over 6 months then was taken down by the BBC I re-edited it 4 times and all got taken down.
While we certainly can thank Terry Nation for the creation of the Daleks, we have to thank David Whitaker for giving the Daleks personality. POWER and EVIL are thr Daleks at their most machiavellian. There is a lot to be said about Dalek psychology when the very idea of another Dalek questioning orders makes them.lose their shit.
I do recommend you listen to freedom of the daleks which is part of a fan audio series called The missing adventures. It does explain how the daleks survive the final end.
I find Evil really disappointing. It could have been so fantastic but a good 4 episodes of it are a hot (and, frankly, rather boring) mess. I remember people being mad at Sue for falling asleep during this one in that "Wife in Space" blog but honestly? I can't really blame her.
We just gonna pretend like this animation is okay? This is on par with newgrounds animations made by one person. I know its flash but they 100% had the budget to make it not look disgustingly stiff? Also did i genuinely hear you say the lighting was good while showing a shot with no shading or actual lighting on the characters?
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Thanks for watching this re-review of 'The Evil of the Daleks'! Please leave a "like" and a comment for the algorithm and if you were interested in knowing how I make these reviews, check out this review's "making of" here - ua-cam.com/video/VjKLT4rQuAo/v-deo.html
The dalek sat nav
If you wanna watch the black & white animation without the black borders croping everything out just put on the colorized version then change your TV's settings to be in black & white and change the aspect ratio to 4:3
Who spoke?! WHO QUESTIONED THE DALEK COMMAND!!!
Dude this has to be one of the most menacing line I've heard from a Dalek so far. Like they get so INSANELY PISSED OFF after having his orders questioned. The emperor is also pretty good.
Reminds me of the scene in Full Metal Jacket where Hartman explodes over Jokers John Wayne line
About the whole the daleks not knowing the doctor isn’t human, that was more of a general thing with the show at the time where the doctor wasn’t definitively an alien, the change between the first doctor to the second for example was described more as a rejuvenation rather than regeneration into a different man, and in several first doctor stories there are contradicting remarks about whether the doctor actually created the tardis or not with it some times being eluded to that it’s just a machine from the future nothing more.
Also times where the doctor is checked for a heartbeat and no one notices a second one even though logically they should.
yeah as well as this another thing that should be took into account is that at the time it was kinda expected for the viewers to have a foggy memory of what happened in the last episode since it took place a whole week before the newest one, so a lot of the specifics aren't really meant to be looked into with such detail or how watchable they all are in a row, they were expected to just be seen once and thats kinda how you should go into watching it and I feel it should really only be analysed at face value
Thank you so very much for doing this amazing job! I lost my Dad (Sonny Caldinez - Kemel) in April 2022, so this makes this so very comforting to me. Please keep up the good work on pulling together the lost episodes with your animation wherever possible.
The late Roy Skelton made his first Dalek voice debut here, And voices the Daleks 'Whenever the crew members got him' throughout the classic series up until the comic relief special 'The Curse of Fetal Death.'
sometimes I just close my eyes and imagine some daleks spinning while saying "dizzy, dizzy, dizzy daleks" in my head. I love this story
I think the single Dalek coming back at the end is a bit more clear. The original flashing light never said "life" to me. To me it said "the casing is broken and sparking". I think maybe it should have been the Emperor's eyestalk that we saw reactivate, instead of a random drone, just because it's, I think, assumed that the new series Emperor is the same Emperor as the one from "Evil of The Daleks".
From what I know it's not confirmed who the Parting of the ways Dalek is, and that it's kind of up in the air
I saw this over Christmas and I do agree with a lot of the original review - it *is* very convoluted, but it's so epic I can forgive the issues. The way it combines so many different styles and genres is commendable, and I adore the way David Whitaker writes the Daleks. It's a Jamie showcase. Really, really, solid stuff.
Going off expanded media & various canon sources, I'd place this story right at the end of the 41st century in the Daleks own personal timeline.
After decades of fighting, this is how they lost the "Great Dalek War" set up in The Daleks Master Plan
It may not be their "final end" but Skaro is left abandoned for hundreds of years...until the Movellan war forces the Daleks back home, to dig up Davros (events of Destiny)
This makes sense
It's funny how episode 5 ends with the 3 Daleks playing trains with the Doctor, got to be the weirdest cliffhanger since the one from Dragonfire where the Doctor purposely let's himself hang by his umbrella
Evil of the Daleks is my all time favourite story. It has problems, but so do all stories. It’s what it does so well that makes me love it as much as I do.
I assumed Waterfield was using the 1960s money he earned at his antique shop to buy items that would have value in his own time like precious metals or jewels.
12:49 If a Dalek spoke that threateningly to me, I'd probably empty my bladder faster than Austin Powers.
I'm just glad that I got to see this lost piece of Doctor Who history.
me: ok this animation recreation is pretty cool and good, but do they even show the daleks giving the doctor a ride???
14:29
me: YESSS BEST EPISODE EVER
The colour animation is a great added dimension
17:34 I think camel gets a slightly worse a job than toberman. At least toberman got lines of dialogue. Only sound camel makes is when he's pushed off the cliff at the end.
15:35 The Daleks know about the Doctor's tardi(s)ness!
Kemel was undoubtedly created as the series' version of Oddjob, since Bond had become the standard by which fantasy action/adventure was measured. However, finding musclemen who could act and enunciate dialogue was difficult, hence they were mute and probably foreign because there weren't that many British performers that well-built - unless your name was Dave Prowse.
All aboard the McCrimmon Express lol
9:00 Oh hi last surviving Ice Warrior actor.
Even though I like Evil of the Daleks, I still love Power of the Daleks better.
I waited a long time for this particular story to be re-created. And it did not disappoint! I got it for my 31st birthday last year :)
23:43 MrTardis, I’d think the “Final End Conflict” is the proto-Imperial vs Renegade Dalek conflict from Revelation and Remembrance of the Daleks
nice to have this redone now the animation is out.
very nice re-view, did you ever read the comic story that follows one of the Daleks that survives from this episode? if not you should its really good.
Wait comic story?
Will Dalekcember outlive us all??
"There is only one form of life that matters.... Dalek Life!"
The Doctor was never gonna implement exactly the same traits that Jamie showed in the rescue mission, he was always gonna exaggerate and add a few traits of his own
I totally agree with you about the padding out to make it fit 7 parts. Both this and Power of the Daleks could have made very tightly plotted and action packed 4 parters rather than drawn out as they are now.
I enjoyed this story (was given the Blu-ray as a present) but don't understand why the animators made Waterfield look like Dracula: he doesn't in the remaining episode.
Dizzy, dizzy, DIZZY DALEK! Dizzy, dizzy, DIZZY DALEK!
Train, train, train, traaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaain!
It's actually here
How many stills and other references did the animation team have to work with? I ask because it affects a lot of things . They can't do shot for shot exactly as it was. You only have half the original performance for certain ( voice) , camera angles , lighting, shooting positions, framing Will all be affected. In this era when we have two filmed versions of unearthly child, and DVDs of modern films come with outtakes, we are spoiled for seeing what can change, for being able to appreciate how a production evolves into the form we see. I realize that unless missing episodes return, which we've no garuntee of, this is our best version, I just find myself wondering how they go about trying to produce it. Another thing, the method seems to have been mostly flash animation and under tight budget.( With the last bit going without saying if course .) As a fan of animation, I can tell you that also affects performances, the characters move differently depending on your animation choices. It can even tie into camera and shot framing. Finally I do enjoy that they chose coulor images. It kind of makes the 60s psudohistoric designs work better, particularly because although it's colour it's not a garish pallete like the real 60s used. It's as if footage of that era was run through a grading filter to tone it down just enough, and it works in my eyes .
You might have quoted someone's salary as a number of guineas per week even in the sixties. Although it was no longer a coin, certain things were still priced in guineas, a guinea amounting to one pound and one shilling.
So, as someone who wants to collect more Classic Who DVDs, which version would people recommend? This one, or the earlier 2016 DVD?
dalekmarchber
25:39 doesn’t this kind of explain how the daleks survive to day of the daleks
7:53 “… or in a mining colony (Vulcan)”
4:47, this might be so that he can afford to pay all his goons, and his general neccesities in the 1960s.
15:30 The know about the Doctor's Tardiness: of course they do- it's his time machine!
Ok I did not expect this good video
This DOCTOR WHO story is a lot like TWILIGHT ZONE and DARK SHADOWS. with a bit of Jean Cocteau. It almost has a dream logic. Has anyone noticed how it is almost a ghost story? - What with the mysterious goings on in that house? If the Daleks could have been kept off screen for a couple of episodes, it could have worked better as some sort of a ghost story - it is almost MR James - it might have worked if it kept the Daleks as a mysterious unseen presence for a while. This story shows why people like time travel stories in general and DOCTOR WHO in particular - you can generate incredible surreal situations - Daleks trundling about a Victorian mansion! I don't understand why the son_in_law character with the Dalek mind control device couldn't eat or drink. I remember enjoying in the original transmission seeing Daleks getting their tops blown off and exposing the creature.
I like The Evil of the Daleks
So what does a lost doctor who episode mean does it mean it never aired due to reasons or did it air but lost in the bbc archives?
It means a at the very least parts of the episodes/stories are lost.
Note:All the 60s era stories still fully exist in audio form, but many stories have partially or fully lost visuals.
You're lucky the BBC haven't taken your review down, when I reviewed the animation it was up for over 6 months then was taken down by the BBC I re-edited it 4 times and all got taken down.
Better leave a comment for the UA-cam algorithm
If Victoria was the princess who needed to be rescued and Jamie was the prince, then I guess that the Daleks were the Dragons of the story.
While we certainly can thank Terry Nation for the creation of the Daleks, we have to thank David Whitaker for giving the Daleks personality. POWER and EVIL are thr Daleks at their most machiavellian.
There is a lot to be said about Dalek psychology when the very idea of another Dalek questioning orders makes them.lose their shit.
Huh, the animated Edward Waterfield keeps reminding me of the Shalka Doctor. is it just me?
I do recommend you listen to freedom of the daleks which is part of a fan audio series called The missing adventures. It does explain how the daleks survive the final end.
RIP Deborah Watling 1948-2017. She died from a painful lung cancer.
Waterfield COULD buy gold in the 60s & sell it in HIS time.
Where can I find these animated versions
The second Whitaker on Doctor Who
I find Evil really disappointing. It could have been so fantastic but a good 4 episodes of it are a hot (and, frankly, rather boring) mess.
I remember people being mad at Sue for falling asleep during this one in that "Wife in Space" blog but honestly? I can't really blame her.
There's an X factor joke here somewhere
Deborah Watling was a late addition to the script. Pauline Collins was expected to continue her role as Samantha Briggs but she turned down the role.
I evil of the daleks I am up to episode 3 of the animated version of it and I am watching the dvd on of it on my PS3 slim
Um they couldn’t of used a black Dalek leader, the white daleks were rebels…
We just gonna pretend like this animation is okay?
This is on par with newgrounds animations made by one person.
I know its flash but they 100% had the budget to make it not look disgustingly stiff?
Also did i genuinely hear you say the lighting was good while showing a shot with no shading or actual lighting on the characters?
Not a fan of this one or that much