The Time Doctor Who Was PRO-SLAVERY? - Doctor Who: The Ark (1966) - REVIEW

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  • @randomericthings7506
    @randomericthings7506 8 місяців тому +24

    The Doctor actually called out the humans treatment of the Monoids at the end of the fourth episode.
    “Last time they were treated like slaves. It’s no wonder when they got the opportunity they returned in kind…” - Approximate quote, the First Doctor

  • @EeveeFromAlmia
    @EeveeFromAlmia 11 місяців тому +21

    I’m surprised that modern who hasn’t had a story problem as simple as a common cold being an issue in the future, Itld really sell a hard sci-fi story and the reality of it all.

  • @blofeld39
    @blofeld39 11 місяців тому +14

    I will say, getting a "prestige" TV director in Michael Imison (even if he was just assigned as "punishment") resulted in some absolutely fascinating visual work.

  • @octaviusfooks7194
    @octaviusfooks7194 11 місяців тому +10

    4:07 - Not related to the BBC shows from the 60s, but Gerry Anderson's (who created Thunderbirds, Captain Scarlet, Terrahawks etc.) first series, The Adventures of Twizzle, from 1957, ran for 52 episodes, but only its first episode still exists to this day.

  • @MrTARDIS
    @MrTARDIS  11 місяців тому +27

    "Take them away to the security kitchen!!"
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    • @UnchainedAmerica
      @UnchainedAmerica 6 місяців тому +1

      It was extremely rare for zoo animals to interact openly with actors at this time. What a treat. The baby Elephant is about 2 years old and well trained.

  • @jasonwheeler826
    @jasonwheeler826 10 місяців тому +7

    "All this, AND a Baby Elephant, too!"

  • @bladersmosh
    @bladersmosh 11 місяців тому +27

    “Let’s just say that Suella Braverman’s favourite Doctor Who story is The Ark and that’s not a good thing.”
    That joke was more funny than it should’ve been.😂 Nice one.

  • @benbastianiartmusic1421
    @benbastianiartmusic1421 11 місяців тому +72

    No no no, Mr Tardis. Doctor Who wasn't political until Chris Chibnall, we keep telling you 🙄.

    • @cooliocats1104
      @cooliocats1104 11 місяців тому +11

      the problem was it wasnt written very good with Chibnall. see tv shows and movies mostly will have a element of politics in it, but its easily a slight thing that doesnt last long or its written really good u dont care if its written for the side u support or not. but when chibnail decided to just throw watever he wanted in it without making sure the writing on it was good its wat turned people off from it.

    • @Talisguy
      @Talisguy 11 місяців тому +18

      ​@@cooliocats1104 We used to just call that "bad writing." It's funny how a lot of people only frame fiction as "too political" when it has politics that don't align with theirs.

    • @Thenesrookie
      @Thenesrookie 11 місяців тому +16

      ⁠@@cooliocats1104I bet you any money if Aliens of London and WW3 came out during Jodie’s era, had the exact same dialogue but the actors were swapped everyone would hate it and say it was too political and heavy handed.

    • @jamie210690
      @jamie210690 11 місяців тому +4

      ​@Thenesrookie just going to say it, not everyone liked it then either...

    • @dwibs93
      @dwibs93 11 місяців тому +2

      No, it’s Chim-balls, we’re clever like that

  • @dommoore6180
    @dommoore6180 11 місяців тому +7

    tbf on the whole accent thing, we'd already had the Doctor speaking with an accent with McCoy in 1987.

  • @pious83
    @pious83 11 місяців тому +30

    It's unfortunate that the Monoids were never used again. I'd like to see a modern update to the design and characterisation.

    • @edb2863
      @edb2863 11 місяців тому +6

      Aren't the ood basically just the monoids crossed with the sensorites?

    • @pious83
      @pious83 11 місяців тому +3

      @@edb2863The influence is definitely there. But considering the Silurians and Sea Devils both exist within canon. Meanwhile basically being the same thing. I think there is room for the Ood and a return of the Monoids. The Sensorites ...not so much.

    • @edb2863
      @edb2863 11 місяців тому +1

      @pious83 oh yeah I wasn't boohooing the idea of the monoids returning, the real question would be what story would or could be told with them

    • @pious83
      @pious83 11 місяців тому +3

      ​@@edb2863 A non-human companion would be a good place to start.

    • @edb2863
      @edb2863 11 місяців тому

      @@pious83 I doubt we'll ever get it on TV. It's obviously already happened in the big finish audios and such, but I think bbc execs see the companion role as an audience surrogate and little else

  • @bladersmosh
    @bladersmosh 11 місяців тому +16

    Despite what some might think of the second half of this episode, I still think it’s one the fandom has overlooked. The part 2 cliffhanger is terrific especially knowing that it predates Planet of the Apes by 2 years, It’s almost like Planet of the Ood regarding its themes of slavery except that story handled that subject matter much better.

  • @SegaNintendoGuy64
    @SegaNintendoGuy64 11 місяців тому +13

    I think the late Roy Skelton is better off as voicing the Daleks and the Cybermen 'Only on The Tenth Planet and The Wheel in Space' than the creatures that are less memorble.

    • @dashfatbastard
      @dashfatbastard 11 місяців тому

      He ccould do three things. Why deny him those paydays?

  • @roguebritgravy1
    @roguebritgravy1 11 місяців тому +6

    The Monoids sound like they're voiced by Stookie Bill.

  • @danielwilliamson6180
    @danielwilliamson6180 11 місяців тому +4

    I once had The Ark on VHS. It's a classic Doctor Who story that is a futuristic retelling of Noah's Ark done like a 2-act stage play. Act 1: Dodo's cold infecting the Guardians and the Monoids. Act 2: The Monoid revolt and enslavement of the Guardians. The story pre-dated Planet of the Ood by 42 years. Good story. Doctor Who at it's best.

  • @llewelynshingler2173
    @llewelynshingler2173 11 місяців тому +6

    Thank goodness the Common Cold is reasonably safe, given its mutation rate

  • @vocalist92
    @vocalist92 11 місяців тому +8

    BBC: Can you speak in a received pronunciation and tone down your native accent while on our TV stations?
    Also BBC: Mark of the Rani is set in Kibblesworth. Hire some southern actors and tell them to put on some blatantly fake Geordie accents

    • @llewelynshingler2173
      @llewelynshingler2173 11 місяців тому +1

      Doing a Northern Accent and BBC accent at once? Sounds fun to listen to

    • @vocalist92
      @vocalist92 11 місяців тому +1

      @@llewelynshingler2173 it's actually hilarious to me as a native. Me and my other Whovian friends put on the over exaggerated Geordie accents all the time 😂

    • @UnchainedAmerica
      @UnchainedAmerica 6 місяців тому

      Then you haven't seen the Gunfighters.

  • @imafgc
    @imafgc 11 місяців тому +9

    I always like the idea of the monoids, would love to see them return, but use real sign language

    • @UnchainedAmerica
      @UnchainedAmerica 6 місяців тому

      One of the Monoids did correctly say Thank you in sign language.

  • @android65mar
    @android65mar 11 місяців тому +9

    Kind of reminds me of The Invasion of Time, which also had an apparent ending - then a twist where the Sontarans invade gallifrey- but with a tedious runaround denouement

  • @kemmdog4444
    @kemmdog4444 11 місяців тому +6

    I love the Security Kitchen.

    • @blofeld39
      @blofeld39 11 місяців тому +1

      It's right up there with Episode 3 of "The Enemy of the World" in kitchens that also involve security.

  • @randomericthings7506
    @randomericthings7506 8 місяців тому +2

    I was so confused when episode 2 ended and everything seemed concluded.
    I was literally shouting, “what the heck are they going to do for the next two!!!?”

  • @jdzencelowcz
    @jdzencelowcz 11 місяців тому +6

    I don't think Dodo is stupid, just a li'l scatterbrained.

  • @sg-zd8eb
    @sg-zd8eb 11 місяців тому +6

    Imison also overspent on this story too apparently.

    • @blofeld39
      @blofeld39 11 місяців тому +5

      He was trying to convince the Beeb to renew his contract by going all-out. He did not succeed in getting the Beeb to renew his contract.

  • @vorebiz
    @vorebiz 11 місяців тому +6

    It's a bit of a Who curio but I've always found this one quite fun and it's great it exists

  • @MoonlightVTOffical
    @MoonlightVTOffical 9 місяців тому +2

    I forgot this was a 4 parter when I first watched this and thought when they returned it was actually the Celestial Toymaker’s doing.

  • @octaviusfooks7194
    @octaviusfooks7194 6 місяців тому +1

    16:18 - Alongside Doctor Who, Michael Sheard would also appear in the Season 3 Blake's 7 episode 'Powerplay' as Federation Section Leader Klegg.

  • @gwfdrwho6061
    @gwfdrwho6061 11 місяців тому +6

    Whacked this one a few weeks back and it was rally good, great review.

  • @FunkyFrick
    @FunkyFrick 11 місяців тому +2

    as an extremely huge sonic fan I am overjoyed to hear even just a SECOND of Super Sonic Racing in this review

  • @octaviusfooks7194
    @octaviusfooks7194 6 місяців тому

    18:12 - Roy Skelton would also provide the voice of Zippy and George from Rainbow from 1973-1992

  • @user-gr2be3zx6r
    @user-gr2be3zx6r 11 місяців тому +2

    The Ark is one of my favourite Hartnell (or even the whole 60s) stories!

  • @jgharston
    @jgharston 11 місяців тому +3

    There were even ripe cotton plants in the background of the planet sequences - cotton-picking subtlety Batman!

  • @bladersmosh
    @bladersmosh 11 місяців тому +5

    Is it me or do the Monoids sound a lot like Marik Ishtar from Yugioh? 😂 I’m talking both dub and abridged. Anyone agree?

  • @ConkerKing
    @ConkerKing 11 місяців тому +3

    Monoids were big Beatles fans...

  • @joshualowthion
    @joshualowthion 11 місяців тому +4

    I first watched The Ark a few months back and loved it. Definitely in my top 5 Hartnell.

  • @kazinwho
    @kazinwho 11 місяців тому +1

    I did *not* expect a Sonic R reference here, well done lmao

  • @birdrun4246
    @birdrun4246 7 місяців тому

    "Are you up to something?" "N.. n... no..." Just golden.

  • @josephryan362
    @josephryan362 11 місяців тому +2

    I the ack I was one of the first doctor who story from series 3 of classic Dr who that I watch

  • @andrewmacfetters6096
    @andrewmacfetters6096 11 місяців тому +1

    the Ark is one of my all time fave stories. I just love episodes that has characters being able to talk more and be on screen to explain things instead of running around all the time. The graphics were well made for the years it was filmed. Its hard to explain why i love the story apart from its different from many other stories.

  • @walkerzupp8393
    @walkerzupp8393 11 місяців тому +2

    Great story with a lot of nuance - plus the novelisation really expands on the Doctor's vaccination program.

  • @oxfan9384
    @oxfan9384 11 місяців тому +1

    I really enjoyed this serial and your review of it was very good :)

  • @alanbrookes275
    @alanbrookes275 11 місяців тому +3

    From the viewpoint of history 1960s this story is more to do with colonialism and the post colonial situation as was pertaining to Africa when after high hopes things started to go wrong after Britain left and too many independence leaders decided being president for life better than the democratic process. The guardians are the well meaning paternalistic colonialists and the monoids the not surprisingly ungrateful natives who resented the domination. It also represented the white settler fears of post independence and the need to get out.

  • @jensablefur155
    @jensablefur155 11 місяців тому +3

    Not gonna lie I'm quite invested in the hope that you're going to dunk on Toymaker. Bottom 5 Who story for me.
    I quite like The Ark. Like yourself I think that the Monoids could be a little bit more threatening and they leaned possibly a little bit too heavily into their bumbling ineptitude, but there's a lot to appreciate from it as a production. I also agree that the monoids themselves are fun in design. I've always felt that it's a creature design that people (not-we) make fun of with the ping pong balls being in the actors mouths and the haircuts but if you suspend disbelief they feel like a tangible and dare I say it, real, Who monster. It's nice to see a costume that isn't super bulky.

  • @Joey15811
    @Joey15811 11 місяців тому +1

    This story is underrated. Its unique.

  • @SirDanFilmsUnltd
    @SirDanFilmsUnltd 11 місяців тому

    7:29 - Eyyyyyyyy! Will’s a Sonic fan!

  • @FrankNFurter1000
    @FrankNFurter1000 11 місяців тому +3

    TAKE THEM AWAY TO THE SECURITY KITCHEN

  • @yuzzem64
    @yuzzem64 8 місяців тому

    The monoids and guardians are a bit like the morlocks and Eloi the morlocks were also supposed to be an abused working class turning the tables on the upper class

  • @matthewbolitho-jones
    @matthewbolitho-jones 11 місяців тому +1

    I like The Ark

  • @lukethomas216
    @lukethomas216 11 місяців тому +1

    Yeah, first half great-second mostly unwatchable. The monoids are a great visual invention tho’!

  • @shmikex
    @shmikex 11 місяців тому

    30:55 "ehhhh...no"

  • @arthurward2067
    @arthurward2067 11 місяців тому

    Will, I think you know as well as I that if you read the news today you still have to speak with BBC English. Huw Edwards brings the exception that proves the rule, and even he speaks with a soft Welsh accent

    • @MrTARDIS
      @MrTARDIS  11 місяців тому +6

      No?
      You get presenters of almost all accents reading the news today at the BBC. Both on radio and TV.

    • @arthurward2067
      @arthurward2067 11 місяців тому

      @@MrTARDIS as a man from and who's family are habitat in the East Midlands. Every newsreader sounds "better" than my clan 😥.

    • @MrTARDIS
      @MrTARDIS  11 місяців тому +1

      @@arthurward2067 I did say "almost". I'm not sure if I've ever heard a brummie news-reader for example.

    • @arthurward2067
      @arthurward2067 11 місяців тому +1

      @@MrTARDIS yeah I was just thinking about brummie news reader, and scousers for that matter. There are plenty of local news readers with these accents so it's not like the regional broadcasters aren't spoilt for choice.
      I will say with presenters general the BBC have made great strides including people from all over the UK. Even compared to when we were kids

  • @ThanhTriet600
    @ThanhTriet600 6 місяців тому

    This serial is so stupid it's entertaining. I've been thinking about it since you posted this review 3 months ago, and I think it would have been better had the plot and themes not completely changed in part 3.
    Imagine if they arrived 700 years later to find all life dead from the plague. He realizes he'd interfered with events, which is a no no for time travelers. Then they land on Refussus and the gas beings happen to have time travel and help the doctor pilot the TARDIS back to try again, this time wiping it out for good.

  • @puppypalice
    @puppypalice 6 місяців тому

    This was an odd one to watch, at first it seems very progressive, then deeply reactionary, then turned around to being very progressive at the end.

  • @ANGEL_BOB_YT
    @ANGEL_BOB_YT 11 місяців тому

    What about the ood isn't that pro slavery it is very Harry Potter house elfy

    • @plantainsame2049
      @plantainsame2049 11 місяців тому

      Thay had a whole episode freeing them
      And the doctor acknowledged. That he f***** u* by not freeing the ones in the Satan pet

    • @Talisguy
      @Talisguy 11 місяців тому +1

      Maybe their first story, where the Doctor just kind of accepts that the Ood are slaves, but in that case they realised that this was a bad look and fixed it in the next story.

    • @plantainsame2049
      @plantainsame2049 11 місяців тому +2

      @@Talisguy To be fair they had to deal with satan

  • @nevem5010
    @nevem5010 11 місяців тому

    👍

  • @ANGEL_BOB_YT
    @ANGEL_BOB_YT 11 місяців тому

    Bired