Lionmaker: Twisting The Truth
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You know lionmaker gave Cuties a glowing review.
im sure he did
Not really surprising.
about as surprising as grass being green
Why u lyin
Oh most definitely
Lionmaker: *debunks nothing*
Also Lionmaker: “I’m so sick of having to debunk all these UA-cam videos”
Yandere Dev be like 👀 👀
@@FowlsNest _are you perving, son_
*face palm*
@@oz_jones Sure am dad
I could say something critical about this comment but im not gonna im just gonna bite my teeth 😆
“She didn’t send the picture. It was a screenshot.” - a) there’s barely a difference and b) presumably he took the screen shot without her consent... THATS WORSE BRUH
Hey, you know that thing where people got mad at me for having pics of minors? Yeah, actually it's even worse, since I also took it without consent.
@@alexandermarin3217 Even worse than pictures is that he had her in Skype calls doing lewd things for him. WTF is up with this deluded freak.
Yeah that makes it worse.
But the point he wanted to make is that she "was never that girl", that she didn't do it. It's basically an admission.
What's funny is the he denies the thing at the same time.
@@gandalf_thegrey His mindset was truly warped and even the most skilled PR advisor or lawyer couldn't get him out of this one. If you truly cared about someone or their well being you wouldn't have posted private photos of them on twitter especially one you shouldn't be dating to begin with. I would understand if it was a case of Paige being eighteen and cancel culture canceling him simply for breaking a taboo but no that is not the case. Doesn't help it wasn't just Paige, it was countless other victims some even younger than Paige. And its clear even with the fallout he was taking advantage of Paige to ensure his continued career, you know the career he would've still had if he didn't abuse it to full fill his sick desires. While I can't confirm it, I'm pretty sure the reason Paige continued to help him is a mixture of some unknown mental issue and guilt thinking she was the sole reason for his downfall. Which no, no matter how you spin it Paige is very much the victim. I swear some people just need priority shipping to be delivered to 666 hell drive.
“We were excited for her to turn 18 so we can show everybody it’s okay”
Man literally admits to grooming
His attempts to manipulate and lie his way out of all of this, makes my skin crawl/makes me so angry. Absolute scumbag
imagine how it was to edit
@@TurkeyTom I honestly don't know how you did it, honestly hats off to you. I would of gone on a fuckin' rampage
When humans are backed into a corner humans often lie and buy time instead of just telling the truth because pride arrogance stupidity whatever
@@obitouchiha1556 K
I guess we can count ourselves fortunate that he was too tragically stupid to know how to pull anything off.
I ate a really good Club sandwich with country ham, cheddar cheese, tomatoes, romaine lettuce, and a side of Lays potato chips. I hope you all get to eat a really good sandwich as well!
Bruh, I ate white rice for lunch today. Now, you’re making me angry
Club sandwiches are the shit dude there so good I wish I could eat one every day
Thanks sandwich man, I just had a salami, pepper jack, and lettuce sandwich with mayonnaise and wheat bread. I too had a side of lays potato chips. I also had two and a half capri-suns I drank.
@@th0ck y’all are gunna give me an aneurism. Stop rubbing your sandwich supremacy in my face!
Thank you Sandwich Man
Why they all look the same?
Love ye vids bruh
They all look the same because sometimes stereotypes are completely 100% accurate, the problem is that people refuse to believe thats the case
Just like your characters
Fat soyboy neckbeards you mean, right?
Physiognomy
Sending off the message to a dude with a creator manager that directly led to his ban is my favorite accomplishment to date
Damn you're really humble
@@lymmy9609 @Shoe Gang Podcast, Shoe Gang Podcast?
nich why ar eyu fatt
@@lymmy9609 Being better than everyone else is my day job
is it an accomplishment for a vulture to eat a corpse
Thank you for shouting out the Nazbol Gang tom
I hate your content,you Turned politigram into cancer.I bet you didn't even know that German National Bolshevism was a thing.And No I am not talking about strasserism.
You are an ignorant Person and your followers are a bane on the internet
you are welcome
@@herrderr1921 Sounds like a dirty centrist to me but okay
Who is this?
@@herrderr1921 ok
"She never sent me nude pictures, she was not that girl"
Even though you tried so hard to make her that girl, Lion.
Pppp
Omg in text it sounds like "it wasn't *that* girl, it was another girl"
Homie says that Paige is the victim here. Yeah bro. We know.
That shit really sucked though, she didn’t deserve any heat or attention from that scumbag’s actions
@@aurelius8734 that's the risk of being in middle school and associating with grown ass men tho lol chances are, the grown ass man wants to hangout with a middle schooler because they're not a stellar individual
@@jaquandrejones holy shit I've never seen such retarded victim blaming before
@@Boykofan she’s a child and children make dumb decisions sometimes it isn’t her fault that she was manipulated especially since lionmaker was a big UA-camr and she was a small one so she probably wouldn’t turn down an opportunity to grow her channel so yeah
@@Boykofan well in my opinion ,obviously by law in the uk she isn’t but I don’t think it matters as she had quite a childish personality not that it’s a bad thing regardless it isn’t her fault
I just had flashbacks of Clown angrily ranting about how the 13 year old's mother sounded like she was really drunk, slurring her words and taking 5 minutes to say a sentence
Glad I'm not the only one
🤡: Yes or no Lion Maker?? YES OR NO???
🦁: it's not that simple, Collosal...
Eggs on toast
"She's one white wine spritzer away from a fucking wheelchair!"
yeah apparently the mom was speaking that way to cover her accent thinking it would make people think less of her
but her slowed and constricted sounding speech she did instead did that and more by making her sound drunk
A crazy how he's denying the lawsuit but not denying the cp on his computer
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The way that Lionmaker dealt with everything is really indicative of the fact that his moral compass is so screwd he can't even realize it.
Yeah you’d think to cover up he’d at least publicize and good moral compass for himself but he doesn’t even know what that is 🤦♀️
“Is it morally wrong for a 28 year old man to date a 16 year old?”
“... dude, I don’t know your life!”
If the answer to that question is anything other than “uh, DUH” then he may as well just call the cops on himself
Id say yes. But I'm gonna try not to be a cultural elitist and say it's absolute, then again I have tons of gripes with cultures world round.
@@SuperNeospace 16 is the standard in the 1st world, those that are above or below that are the exception. It's an issue because that was 2 years into the relationship.
@@ZontarDow Damn I didn't know the second detail. Thanks for the info. And where I'm at it's 18, I'm good with that number. But throughout my country it varies
Edit. I got to the 14 year old part. Yeah that's definitely predatory, probably groomed her
The fact he dodged the question multiple times is telling enough by itself.
@@j.peters1222 That's a good point. I'd say there is a "decent" argument that boils down to cultural differences, but he doesn't say that which means he doesn't think that. Which makes me think he intended to be predatory.
He wasn't there for a nuanced argument but to save face.
the goosebumps intro was absolutely perfect
aha I thought it was neat too
@@TurkeyTom I don't. It's dumb and stupid. Really stupid. And dumb. Dum dum! Stupid stupid
@@TurkeyTom holy shit he responded
Reminds me of Doom Eternal track in Khan Makyr's world.
*ColossalisCrazy flashbacks intensifies*
i did not have turkey this thanksgiving so he could make this video
Damn you and your Canadian thanksgiving
Same here
@@grimmy6447
Hey, let them have this. They don't get to celebrate real Thanksgiving.
God bless you for that lol
Thank you
imagine being raided by the FBI and you hit em with the "they're not pictures, they're screenshots"
alright boys pack it up we got nothin it's just screenshots
"Won't someone feel bad for this poor girl who I made into a victim" what is this trash mentality
Murderer on trial: Your honor, you really shouldn't be trying me, you should be mourning the victim I killed.
20:09 - 20:19 tell me this doesn't sound like "and I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for you meddling kids" from scooby-doo LMAO
This is a good video but when are we gonna get an update vid to pyrocynical's pregnancy?
lmfao
@@TurkeyTom I simply can't wait for the gender reveal
@@jareedgi
Let’s see if the gender reveal sets another forest on fire
Femboy pyro for the win.
@@kaltogi6645 bro don’t worry I’ll do it
What really gets me is his story keeps changing. Most of the time, when people keep changing details in their story they are lying. As they say, "If you tell the truth, you won't have to remember anything."
Is acting like Christian westorn chandler if is work in politique
Lionmaker: She did not take a photo i took a screenshot
So you are the one who distributed cp not her holy hell
It’s the fact he used that as a deflection. Like sir, that’s worse than if she willingly gave you the image
I find it pretty weird how I literally rewatched the colossal interview this week. Great vid btw
thanks man
Some people don’t realize turkey Tom is one of the important UA-camrs on the platform
the most important
@@TurkeyTom yes sir my bad
@@TurkeyTom quick question was the comment on the pyrocinical lion,asker video intended to be provocative? Because I’m not sure as it could’ve been interpreted that way
@@TurkeyTom the only one
Snood Gang will take over the platform
jesus why on earth would he go off and try to argue with collassul, thats suicide
cause he is diagnosed with
BIG D U M B
The clown car needs packing after all...
I wish you ended it with it’s crazy but you right💀
@@sashadawn3336 i can only regret it
It’s the UA-camr equivalent of suicide by cop.
Lionmaker is a dumpster fire but I dont pity him, I feel bad for the girl he groomed
I mean like. He's dead now so what can he really do now?
@@BusinessZeus wait hes really dead
@@BusinessZeus wait really
Lol
@@JoeyJ0J0 I think he meant LionMaker's channel
@@Sub-Atomic he wasn't refering about the UA-cam channel
Pyro: "That's pretty gay"
Oh the irony! 🙄
Furry inflation hentai lover
penis music
"I didn't make this video, he did."
He literally had his *own face* in it, *was the one speaking* , and decides to upload it on *his own channel.*
Man colossal seems so cool in those clips, like a legal prosecuter grilling a defendant
I thought he was really pushy, impatient and unproffecional when that video came out
But I like this 29:04 someone should clip this for my alarm clock
@@BusinessZeus unprofessional*
@@BusinessZeus Well he is a commentary channel. They're not exactly known for immense professionalism.
@@drgrim1066 Thank you. I correct people alot and it's nice to see the same against me
@@theepicduck6922 That's an excuse (in no way do I believe LionMaker or support him)
Lionmaker: "you don't understand I didn't ask for any explicit photos they're just screenshots from a Skype call"
That only makes it worse
I wonder why no one looks through his Instagram comments and post. They're all sooo self loathing and looking for sympathy points. I like dramatically reading them with my friends.
What’s his IG called?
@@DCT-tt8ib it was @reallionmaker but it seems like he's deleted his Instagram. Sucks I wish I would of archived some of it because its gold.
It’s really weird to do that.
"we're not roaring because i'm telling you to roar, we're roaring because we're hurting, we're all hurting"
-lionmaker studios
Stamps is a wholesome king, it’s so hard seeing his old vids with creeps knowing he doesn’t associate with that bullshit.
Here’s hoping that doesn’t age poorly lol
@@xannymanny9754 don’t jinx it bro
"it's funny, how I only got investigated because of Keemstar..."
So did he want to get away with dating a 16 year old? Jesus Christ.
Keem was dating an 18 yr old but Honestly the age of consent should be 20
I don't like listening to him talk he just sounds so cocky
He sounds very theatrical, like he's playing a character on a strage. He's fake af.
He’s especially “cocky” around the kids
Lol
Same, it's aggravating to listen to
Who?
"Hello members of the National Bolshevik Party"
Well you got me there.
You're a NazBol? Ew.
@Franz Based?
So you are Nico?
Nazbol is alright, but the OG ideology is still better ;^)
Account made 6 months ago lol
4:52 well, well, well, how the turn tables
@Ryan Munyon I mean roleplay was suppose to be a joke text and should play along. It's funny. Even ivory is just doin clout chasing stuff and make ruckus
Bro just got false news. Check pyro respond m8.
You know it's bad when Keemstar is a Hero in this Story
Turkey Tom has more avatar drawings, he is evolving
yes
@@TurkeyTom did he really die of cancer?
@@hunter70558 Who ?
@@adudewithafairlyinternetco9454 lionmaker
This isn’t even his final form
Man i completely forgot about Lionmaker, like an entire Vietnam flashback.
Who am I to judge?
Well he is right. I wouldn't want to be judged by him.
20:20 that whole timing just felt so perfect as he yelled to "put him in a cage"
lionmaker’s defenses were like a robber trying to explain that he was just borrowing money
I'm extremely proud of how much your content has changed and matured, it gives off a very TRO vibe which is good, goodjob and keep on trucking Turkey man.
TRO is boring as hell , repeats the same point multiple times for 30 minutes . Gee I wonder why TRO videos are 6 hours long 😶😶😶😶😶
Turkey tom is better than tro imo
both.
both is good
It's like a TRO/Leafy fusion
You got some good videos. Thanks Eagle Ernie
thanks bro
God the background music helped the atmosphere great video Tom
thanks man
@@TurkeyTom i heard some hxh music there. I know you are a weeb now
*Huh,* Sounds like you.
someone: "kill an innocent"
lionmaker: "who am I to judge ?"
"They didn't investigate until they were alerted!" Uhhhhhhh, that's kinda how investigations start out... This man is delusional as hell.
"And I would've gotten away with it too if it wasn't for you meddling UA-camrs."
I really like this channel, there's not that many people who make long form, retrospective commentary like this. Good vid, ham herbert.
Bologna Billy
Roast Beef Ronny
Salisbury Steak Seymour
The right opinion
Duck Dylan
Hmm, twisting the truth? That sounds familiar
Lol
@Theo Pouroumalis Turkey Tom did that
The whole LIonmaker thing was one of the few good thing Keemstar has dond
"She never sent me pictures, it was a screenshot of a Skype call."
Oh thanks for clearing that up, man. That's like 1000x worse.
This lion dude has the most annoying voice I've ever heard
It has an air of arrogance in it that just doesn't belong at all.
He should have never had access to the internet. He shouldn't have tried to make this come back only to make himself look worse.
I do remember back when lionmaker disappeared for the first time, that Paige would make videos and upload to his channel. Usually was hide and seek, but he wouldn't be in them, probably because he was being investigated.
Litterally no one:
Lionmaker:AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
The fact that he still tried to continue to manipulate what few audience members he had left and couldn't ever just take responsibility and own up makes me despise him all the more.
Honestly he needs to just take a long walk off a short pier.
“That’s my arm it was just a gyazo”
Literally what.
What is a gyazo? Sounds like some stuff people would say to sound fancy.
@@BusinessZeus Gyazo is a free program where you can screenshot anything with your own custom size, then it opens up a gyazo page that only you can see where you can save your screenshot.
Hey bruh your videos are great
I read gyoza and now I'm hungry
@@BusinessZeus it's a file sharing program that gives a picture a dedicated URL once you share it. But if I understand correctly, Lionmaker could have found the pic somewhere and uploaded it to gyazo via screenshot, that doesn't make it his arm?
amazing and cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
talking to yourself lately?
Yooooooo
Fun Fact: The LionMaker drama was how I found out about KEEMSTAR and DramaAlert, and I was never the same since
The mental acrobatics lionmaker does is actually impressive.
“She didn’t send me pictures; I just took pictures without her consent” 17:08
I love how Turkey Tom interacts woth his comment section. He is such a good person.
I actually watched this guy back in the day and really enjoyed his content. When I heard what happened I was rather young so I was confused as well as mad and pissed off. Ever since then I completely forgot about him but the memories stayed in my head, thank you Tom for bringing back the good memories aswell as making me confirming my belief of how messed up this was.
Lionmaker is the personification of those presentations you've had a month to work on but wait until the last 30 minutes to work on
I just wanna say I fell asleep to ur videos (no they aren’t boring I was just tired) woke up to this video of this dude screaming at the top of his lungs. Good vibes
Huh
Lmaooo he was so mad that he got caught when he was explaining that he "didn't even have police looking at him" until the big bad bullies did the right thing
Hey Tom, what do you think about making a video on analyzing a compilation of youtuber manipulation as a whole? Showing different types and levels of manipulation against either one individule, or their audience in general. That, I think, would be a very interesting analysis, and you got the resources to make it happen.
interesting idea man! I have been meaning to do a video somewhat like that for a while, I’ll put it on the backburner for now as I have a few other projects to get out of the way first but that’s a really solid suggestion
@@TurkeyTom Awesome! Thanks for taking the time to consider my suggestion. Love your content man. Looking foward to your next video, and whatever heinous truths you uncover next. Keep up the good work!
@DodgyJeph I think you got it
@DodgyJeph I think you got it
LOL!
lionmaker when the screenshot is of a bloody arm: it's my arm it's still a picture of my arm
lionmaker when the screenshot is of a minor: it's not a nude she sent it's a screenshot
You know the screaming portion of this video made me feel much better about myself
Me, watching most of the video during the day: I like listening to Tom, should watch the video while trying to fall asleep
Lionmaker during that screaming bit: Let me introduce myself
I feel like the commentary community is like a living guide line for how you need to behave on youtube and simply put if you cant fall into a semi organized lane then you'll be excommunicated and the community has gotten much better with its discernment of potential bad actors trying to ruin decent people's lively hood. Lion maker is bonkers and he wont be missed
Ah yes, people like Keemstar are known defenders of moral truth
If we pretend there isn't so much clickbait and pathetic drama yes it's a good guide
When Lionmaker started screaming I lost it 😭
he roared
@@TurkeyTom LMAOOO
I was a huge fan of him 6 years ago I'm so disappointed. I remembered when it happened first time seeing a youtuber cancelled and I was very confused. I remember everything.
This is the only Lion not even Lion Trophy Hunters would hunt or whant as a Trophy in their home.
what i like most about Tom videos is making out what BGM he's using, he really likes 007Nightfire lol. Excellent taste
Thought lion in the thumbnail was a bum ass mista gg
lol
I thought that too! I was like oh shit what did gg do
Something to take into account when asking if someone is being truthful in their response to allegations leveled against them is if they're calm, or not. If someone has a false accusation leveled against them, they will often react explosively in anger. I think Lionmaker knew this when "dismantling" Colossal's video, feigning fury, but his ego disallowing him to look vulnerable or unreasonable, causing his words to come off as blatantly fake.
ironic
He could expose others for twisting the truth, but not himself.
Dude that 90’s Goosebumps TV series theme intro brought me back to 1995-96 so fast and I got literal goosebumps.
the nostalgia fr
I'm gonna admit, I first thought that was Mista GG in the thumbnail and wondered what he did to end up in a thumbnail with Keemstar.
The video title enlightened me on the truth of my ignorance
Colossal’s Lionmaker interview is such an interesting watch. I have listened to it a few times and it’s just so incredible how he has twisted the truth. It’s like he’s actively trying to convince both the audience and himself that what he did was ok while refusing to speak the truth out loud. He also really focuses on the semantics. I believe he was incredibly emotionally manipulative to that girl and his other victims. That interview was a perfect display of how twisted he can be and how desperately he attempts to talk himself into believing his own lies. He sounds like he’s always reading a dramatic monologue just waiting for the applause for a convincing performance. He’s a real bad guy. Disgusting.
I've never seen a man go from insane to nearly normal to even more insane so quickly
Cancer does that tbh.
Meanwhile, at Nuremberg:
"Mister Lionfabrik, you stand accused of war, genocide, torture, and being double parked."
"Well firstly I have never double parked, this is typical of the false allegations against me..."
Best music choice for the ending.
That's the stupidest "distinction" ever.
Like, you know what a screenshot is? A goddamn picture.
And that means he distributed the diddly photos, making him even more gulity
Tom despite your young age for this documenting type of videos, you are KILLING at it. Keep up the excellent work my friend. Also, I can certainly see your comedy has further improved since you started, as well!
Jesus Tom, Give a Warning at least when the Lion rawr and screamed.
_Ears Bleedings......_
Pyro talking about UA-camrs and their inappropriate interactions with fans🤣🤣
How ironic
So happy you made this, watched nicks little video about it, didn't understand the situation too much. This explained the whole history for me and now I understand the whole thing. As always a great vid.
Turkey Tom? More like ROASTED TURKEY!
Tom what are your thoughts on the mini lad situation?
havent heard a ton about it tbh, I know of the basic premise of what happened but none of the details are clear to me at all
@@TurkeyTom oh ok, it’s pretty interesting tho cool talking to you and the vids been great
@@shoooja Is that MJ?
Michael Jordan
@@BusinessZeus yea
Lionmaker took being a Lion a bit too seriously
If yall don't get it it's cuz Lions are predators
Lion maker was the first big youthber to shout me out
congrats bro
Yikes
@@TurkeyTom cheers mate I was honered to have my name come out of his lovely mouth
"The story attracted the ire of commentary channels like Pyrocynical."
Ironic...
Rather ironic
I don't know what Lionmaker expected to happen after accepting to do an interview with one of UA-cam's most thorough and merciless hounds.
I love how he tries to paint keemstar as a bad guy for getting the police onto him. Bruh that’s one of the best if not the best thing keems ever done with his content