both the two things that frustrate me in New Age are 1) that you have a coil to turn rotation into current, but you cannot create a motor with a wire coil, which is how we do irl. i see the motor block as a self-consistency issue 2) the ridiculous stirling engine (LOL) is proof this needs more polishing. right now it is an uncut gem, precious nonetheless
I wish it was easier to generate electricity with new age. As it stands the alternators from crafts and additions are the objectively better choice for most of the game, but you can't the deny the cool factor actually building a real alternator block by block, which also fits create's theme much better
If you are still looking, mekanism is compatible with create!!! You can download the create mekanism addon, but this just makes the recipes a bit more expensive. But universal cables fit onto the create crafts and additions accumulator just fine.
I think the high cost is a plus, I don't actually want to use electricity much in a create playthrough, I want it to be costly so that I am forced to use it only for stuff that makes it worth it.
@@diablo.the.cheater im gonna be honest, my biggest issue with new age is that it generates electricity... with little to use it for, meaning you need some mods that actually utilise electricity which more often than not have method of generating shit tons more energy than new age does
@auspiciouscheetah I see them as passive energy for the other mods or the opposite, build a whole generator of any other mod and power your create builds with that
"So using Netherite magnets only gives us a little bit more efficiency for a lot more cost..." Hold on, you're running the Netherite Magnet setup at a much lower speed! You can scale the Netherite Magnet setup way further than that and get much more out of it.
the generator uses 24su per RPM and the more efficient the coil blocks, the more SU it will pull. so for a fixed su of 2,048, in order to not overstress the system, you have to reduce the rpm.
@@X4Alpha4X But the entire point of higher tier magnets is that they're more efficient at converting that speed/SU into energy, so running it on the same amount of SU is like running a car on lamp oil and being confused that it's not driving very fast.
I kind of wish there was a hybrid between the two. There's things I like about both, but other features that I just wish they didn't have. Like it's cool how New Age uses multiblocks, but some of their recipes are kind of silly, and I don't care for the idea of diamond as a superconductor, as diamond is actually a natural _resistor._ On the other hand, some aspects of C&A just feel out of place or downright cheaty.
@@dustojnikhummer Not really? I mean, IE uses multiblocks and wires, but it doesn't really have anything to do with Create, other than you can use one of these mods to bridge the two (which I'm doing).
a thing with new age is you can also build a pretty easy farm to make infinite throium. I think the one I made could run about 21 max steam engines. if anyone would like that... a schematic for it... but the schematic requires sophisticated storage.
also with the electricity... it will tell you what efficiency you have on new age when you look at the brushes which I like, also that one that uses gold and iron is so damn good
Yeah, you can infinitely duplicate thorium from water and cobblestone ( not directly, the recipe is water + thorium + stone + clay, so you need blasting on one side and 2 rounds of crushing + washing on the other one ), which is nice when you want sustainable power.
a note for the electricity in new age, it produces more the faster the coil spins + you get better transmission from the coil the better your coils/wires are - copper, gold, diamond ( also for the coil, you can stack multiple and min/max with amount of coils and or the rpm it spins on) ((also also, since the beginner state is so cheap you can quite easily get multiple coils, stack them and get more without needing to get brass for the rpm controller))
Both are good, I have New age on my server simply because of nuclear reactor, but for me crafts and additions fits Create theme better, while NA has that old industrial mod vibe to it
Crafts and Additions is NOF more themed around create. The entire vibe of create is about making complex structures and automation, which New Age does way better (at least when it comes to electricity). The only reason it's better is because it isn't an electricity mod (despite what this video has for some reason decided to say), it's an expansion mod.
I love you videos! The last few are ones on my list of topics i wanna do, guess i don't need to now as you do it way better! Will say I have been adding them both recently and excited to learn more about new age as I'm more familiar with crafts and additions
Crafts and Additions feels way too overpowered. If you are going to put electricity into a mod about rotation, I feel like it should be hard, going from a steam based society to an electrical one was hard
Its still steam based lol, crafts and additions just converts the su into fe and allows it to be moved through wires at 75% efficiency. It still uses vanilla create power generation. Essentially it just adds a more convenient, less efficient way of moving energy
For anyone who wonder, i have done some testing and you bedt SU for FE ratio is the alternator from craft and addittion until you get the layered magnets and netherite magets (the 2 best ones) which are more efficient at converting su for fe by that point, however if you dlnt care about efficiency but rather power output, i think most new age's magnet work, iirc only the two first tier of magnet have a lesser power output than the alternator
There's also electric stonks mod, which basically adds the coil mechanic to make electricity and motors, but nothing else. If you want to use new age with something like immersive engineering, keep in mind that the coil is extremely weak, so you would have to tweak it's power exchange rate in config
I usually use both. But also, as long as New Age continues to have a problem with motors erasing themselves from existence when being loaded, I will be mad at it (and still use it, just with chunkloaders). Also, take a look at The Factory Must Grow; it may look like it's all about oil, but it also has electricity too.
amazing video! i would have loved to hear more about the specific requirements and which is "better" for steam engines (specifically, the work put in to make a biofuel farm vs a thorium farm), cant wait to see more from you!
do remember that both have highly configurable configs, both acknowledging each other to keep numbers about equal and explaining formulas for the end user to tweak if they wish to remain equal. For example if you think a full blown steam engine system at the end is not making enough energy, you can simply bump it up, or down, or whatever. At the end I like both, one does things the other does not, primarily straws, the GOAT
In new age, they should add a siren, when connected to a formed nuclear reactor, it will detect when the reactor is close to meltdown, and start blaring a siren, also new age needs the ability to cool down the reactor with water directly, and you should be able to substitute the reactor glass with water.
I generally just find New Age more fun. Generating electricity with just one block is boring and goes against what Create is all about, but Crafts & Additions is still worth having for all of the other stuff it adds
I had a little problem with Create Additions, the power cables don't seem to work well, if you're going to transfer over a long distance it seems that if the chunks that the power poles are on aren't charged, it doesn't transmit power, so I usually don't use the mod cables, I use them when necessary, but to transmit I usually use Immersive Engineering cables.
Honestly, both mods work wonders together. Not much beats a Solar Powered Steam engine that turns off in the night and automatically turns on during the day. A Small steam engine can use an alternator to produce lots of energy while pumping its own water and still have some SU to spare. I tend to make a LVL3 Steam engine for that purpose. (I'm also using a mod that adds a flywheel clutch that only sends SU into the alternators when the Speed is over 64 RPM (aka. Steam Engine Speed), the startup is linked to another clutch that disenganges when its over the motor's input rotation speed) Then using a daylight sensor and an AND gate, one can have the motor turn on when The Steam Engine is Off AND its Day. The Startup Motor Assembly is linked to an isolated (Push & Pull) accumulator while all additional energy gets put into the grid.
You can use cyclic mod to comsume Forge energy . It has cool machine. There is also option to transfer fluid,FE,items wireless. Battery from create craft and additions mod loose stored energy when it is breaked. But cycle mod Battery and fluid barrel retains its stored content. This is great concept to make Electric car and diesel car and refuel it easily using clockwork
20:40 Each individual engine outputs 16,384 SU. A Max level (super heated blaze burners) steam boiler can support 18 engines. This means you can actually support 18 alternators, not just 15, as each alternator consumers 16,384 SU at 256 RPM. This brings the total FE produced up to 6,480. Still less than New Age, but not over 1k less.
I had a problem with the alternator where it would ban some of my friends and someone like me, who somehow was impervious to the ban, had to break the block
These mods are completely incomparable. New Age is an expansion mod about throwing Create into a new technological age. Crafts and Additions is an expansion mod about building on what Create already has. They're just not the same genre of mod.
we can configure both systems right? if so we might adapted craft & additions altenator to New age's Magnet system and expand it mathematically that way we can crank up asthetic and energy production, but i like both to be installed despite we parity them both for asthetic reason
can you store electricity from create new age in the "battery" (accumilators) and then use that power with create new age again? (and can i somehow use relays in the create new age mod combined with crafts and additions)
I kinda wish crafts and additions would have an "electricity clutch" that you could put on batterys, if you give it a redstone signal, it allows electricity to leave the battery.
Personally, i feel that crafts and additions is way more fitting for create, but it could use some polish. The aesthetics are great, and feel very createy, and things like nuclear reactors and solar lenses feel too modern for the steampunk vibe i get from create. I also like the extra things from C&A like barbed wire, and the fact that it isnt too late game but not early game either. However, i think it could do with more multiblock structures, and it should use an even distribution instead of whatever it does here, and maybe a bit more detail to the power system.
"In terms of power generation" bro had the netherite coil spinning insanely slow, it would produce a lot more if given more rpm, which is what you're supposed to do
but you cant give it more rpm cuz it will be over stressed. he was only feeding it 2,048su to stay comparable with the alternator. the stronger the coil the more su it uses per rpm, so for the same su you have to reduce the rpm.
Tbh I use the Thermal series for my electricity needs coupled with immersive Engineering. Thermal machines are AMAZING but are a PAIN to power and Immersive power is awesome but you can only scale it slowly. I can see how Create could allow for a gear shifting system for charging Immersive Tools stupidly fast or generating massive power for walls of Thermal Machines. I’m gonna have to try these for myself. Been needing something to replace Nuclearcraft in 1.20.
I just simply dont get the matter of these mods. There is a literal endless energy called redstone in the game. Why do we need to produce energy out of kynetics? I could get the point if it removes all redstone relations and focuses on how we gain electricity irl. But it those none of these??
@@KwizzleHazzizle Yes they are. But they look stupid side by side to redstone. The one thing just works(redstone), and the other one looks like it takes sideways to go to the same outcome. Plus it works less efficient as it features energy loss.
@@modernerdadaismus8430 Well, one thing to note is that redstone can be slower as you'd need repeaters to extend your signal lengths which can add a delay. Passing signals through different redstone components may also add delays. Redstone is also bulkier when moving vertically whereas Create only needs a 1 block thick rod going up and down. This electricity add-on also makes it have a lot more range than redstone does horizontally. Redstone can also be destroyed by water whereas Create components can be waterlogged. Using kinetics also lets you fine-tune the speed of machines whereas configuring speed using redstone is more tedious. Redstone lines can not be adjacent to eachother and the way blocks are powered can make or break a machine, whereas kinetics makes it much easier to have compact builds without worrying about different systems interfering with each other. Both Create and Redstone have their own purposes, and redstone is even used in some Create machines, the fundamental concepts of how they function is different so they fill different niches. ...............and Create just simply looks cooler, that is 90% of the reason people use Create.
Because Create adds recipes and ways of playing the game that makes it extremely worthwhile. It's simple. It works. Iron and gold farms that are easily expandable without gamebreaking bugs or endless hours of mining and headache. It adds a fun puzzling challenge that isn't too frustrating. And like the other people say, it's really cool to look at. Plus i'd rather pass a golfball sized kidney stone than trying to learn advanced redstone.
@chrissant6277 Its everything but simple like I said. Of course its cool to look at, but as it does not remove redstone it fakes a second energy theory which makes no sense. Like why do you need to craft a reactor to produce the energy while redstone is self releasing it infinitely. We can talk about your opinion infinetely aswell, as its stating your preference, which is valid. That still does not change the fact that this mod makes 0 total sense in minecraft, while standing next to redstone, instead of replacing it.
I wanted to use both in my world with other addons too but sadly New Age is not really compatible with Optifine and whenever I wanted to put down an Energizer, it crashed my game so I needed to get rid of it :/
I am currently using both in my modpack, I like how these mods are compatible. However I think using New Age's generators can be both easier and more efficient to use, I have an setup that generates pretty good amount for low su and wasn't hard to craft. But take accumulators for example, New Age's accumulators just suck.
What would be totally overpowering would be using mods like Bigger Reactors or even the Draconic Evolution reactor to generate energy and turn on these little electric motors that practically use no energy compared to how much these reactors generate.
I feel like New Age needs to be split into two mods: one focused on the actual generators and another focused on the nuclear reactor. As cool as it is to see a realistic depiction of a nuclear reactor, the fact is we don't really need it.
you forgot to specify that thorium is renewable, you can make it by mixing clay, water, stone and anothe piece of thorium to make 2 thorium essentially duplicating it
i like new age more purely for its progression feeling i much prefer having early innefficient things that lead into lategame power houses than 1 mid game thing that will be it (outside of wire connectors but those dont really feel impactful to me) plus the aesthetic of new age is much cooler
Absolutely. The electricity in Crafts and Additions is just a random extra thing in a mod all about adding random extra things to Create. The electricity in New Age is a whole progression system, it's what the mod is focused on.
I love the Crafts & Additions aesthetics, switches and lamps, but the New Age's large generators are nice and power distribution mechanic is way better. If the demand is too high the whole network gets a brownout. I got weird issues with a massive factory with many switchable networks in C&A where machines won't start or would work for a bit then stutter and stop while the generation was more than adequate.
The max new age magnets has like ~95% efficiency. This scales on how fast it’s spinning, and is expandable. People would probably be using the second best magnet with ~75% efficiency though, but they can just put more generators down in a chain. Hook this up to a steam engine and the FE you get is ridiculous
both
the two things that frustrate me in New Age are 1) that you have a coil to turn rotation into current, but you cannot create a motor with a wire coil, which is how we do irl. i see the motor block as a self-consistency issue 2) the ridiculous stirling engine (LOL) is proof this needs more polishing. right now it is an uncut gem, precious nonetheless
what about the stirling engine? is it op or something? or just is ugly?
@@pufferfish9166 irl, stirling engines suffer from no torque, basically. But idk
3) Make it look like a Create add on instead of an Immersive Engineering add on
@@VeddyGudI mean, same goes for Crafts and Additions, but I see your point
My biggest issue is the heat system. It's rather inconsistent and it's not explained anywhere. I wish they'd do a bit more work on it
I wish it was easier to generate electricity with new age. As it stands the alternators from crafts and additions are the objectively better choice for most of the game, but you can't the deny the cool factor actually building a real alternator block by block, which also fits create's theme much better
my only issue is how out of place some of the new age stuff looks
If you are still looking, mekanism is compatible with create!!! You can download the create mekanism addon, but this just makes the recipes a bit more expensive. But universal cables fit onto the create crafts and additions accumulator just fine.
I think the high cost is a plus, I don't actually want to use electricity much in a create playthrough, I want it to be costly so that I am forced to use it only for stuff that makes it worth it.
@@diablo.the.cheater im gonna be honest, my biggest issue with new age is that it generates electricity... with little to use it for, meaning you need some mods that actually utilise electricity which more often than not have method of generating shit tons more energy than new age does
@auspiciouscheetah I see them as passive energy for the other mods or the opposite, build a whole generator of any other mod and power your create builds with that
i usually use both
Real.
I use new age for the nuclear reactor (:
Me too, they both use the same enargy
@@pablotorres928 me too
@@pablotorres928 fair enough its pretty cool
"So using Netherite magnets only gives us a little bit more efficiency for a lot more cost..."
Hold on, you're running the Netherite Magnet setup at a much lower speed! You can scale the Netherite Magnet setup way further than that and get much more out of it.
exactly
Was looking for this comment.
the generator uses 24su per RPM and the more efficient the coil blocks, the more SU it will pull. so for a fixed su of 2,048, in order to not overstress the system, you have to reduce the rpm.
ya you can get more out of the magnet... with more boilers(SU)
@@X4Alpha4X But the entire point of higher tier magnets is that they're more efficient at converting that speed/SU into energy, so running it on the same amount of SU is like running a car on lamp oil and being confused that it's not driving very fast.
I kind of wish there was a hybrid between the two. There's things I like about both, but other features that I just wish they didn't have. Like it's cool how New Age uses multiblocks, but some of their recipes are kind of silly, and I don't care for the idea of diamond as a superconductor, as diamond is actually a natural _resistor._ On the other hand, some aspects of C&A just feel out of place or downright cheaty.
Wouldn't that be Immersive Engineering?
@@dustojnikhummer Not really? I mean, IE uses multiblocks and wires, but it doesn't really have anything to do with Create, other than you can use one of these mods to bridge the two (which I'm doing).
15:05 THE *UNMATCHED POWER* OF THE _SUN_
It just needs to warm up.
@@thatrandomrecorder914 the SUN is *warming up*????
reinventing immersive engineering
Immersive engineering but looking more minecraftly
i use crafts and additions as a bridge between immersive and create
as in I will use create farms to make biodiesel and then power the farm with a motor
But Create doesnt have that brutal and oppressive capitalist feeling immersive engineering has.
I love that look IE has @@chickensoldier9790
i always use both becouse you can store energy in Crafts And Additions and there are many ways to get energy in New Age
It would be cool to have a power mod with proper power units and concepts like voltage, resistance, current and fequency
I feel this concept would fit Create far more than simply using FE. Agreed!
if you want that, then you should go take a look at "Electrodynamics" and "Nuclear Science" mods
dont remind me that theres several mod that do that stuff. even immersive engineering to a degree TYPES that stuff.
Check out Immersive Engineering
gregtech
a thing with new age is you can also build a pretty easy farm to make infinite throium. I think the one I made could run about 21 max steam engines. if anyone would like that... a schematic for it... but the schematic requires sophisticated storage.
also with the electricity... it will tell you what efficiency you have on new age when you look at the brushes which I like, also that one that uses gold and iron is so damn good
The video and schematic are up on my channel
Yeah, you can infinitely duplicate thorium from water and cobblestone ( not directly, the recipe is water + thorium + stone + clay, so you need blasting on one side and 2 rounds of crushing + washing on the other one ), which is nice when you want sustainable power.
@@goldwolfgaming7821 thanks brother
@@ok10469 happy to help, let me know if there are more factories I can work on. I love that shit
a note for the electricity in new age, it produces more the faster the coil spins + you get better transmission from the coil the better your coils/wires are - copper, gold, diamond ( also for the coil, you can stack multiple and min/max with amount of coils and or the rpm it spins on) ((also also, since the beginner state is so cheap you can quite easily get multiple coils, stack them and get more without needing to get brass for the rpm controller))
Both are good, I have New age on my server simply because of nuclear reactor, but for me crafts and additions fits Create theme better, while NA has that old industrial mod vibe to it
Install new age: refurbished resource pack it overhauls all the textures in the mod
New age is more realistic and polished, but Crafts and Additions is more simple and themed around Create.
Crafts and Additions is NOF more themed around create. The entire vibe of create is about making complex structures and automation, which New Age does way better (at least when it comes to electricity). The only reason it's better is because it isn't an electricity mod (despite what this video has for some reason decided to say), it's an expansion mod.
@@AeonKnigh432 No? Crafts and Additions IS themed around create. You need Create to make Crafts and Additions work.
@@tntaro That's not what he means. He's talking about the theme and oversimplicity of the addon.
You only need one reactor heat vent and 5 reactor rods for a maximum size boiler.
+new age`s boilers can replace blazeburners not only in steam engines but in crafts too where heat required. thats really helps in early-game
I love how in depth you go into those mods. Great video
I love you videos! The last few are ones on my list of topics i wanna do, guess i don't need to now as you do it way better! Will say I have been adding them both recently and excited to learn more about new age as I'm more familiar with crafts and additions
Mccastle and no replies yet... Strange
Crafts and Additions feels way too overpowered. If you are going to put electricity into a mod about rotation, I feel like it should be hard, going from a steam based society to an electrical one was hard
I know, but in new age I want the straw, it's hard to choose
@@BingoosBongoos have both?
@@alphenex8974 ye figured that out when he said they were compatible
Its still steam based lol, crafts and additions just converts the su into fe and allows it to be moved through wires at 75% efficiency. It still uses vanilla create power generation.
Essentially it just adds a more convenient, less efficient way of moving energy
Yeah but at the same time, New age is just too tedious and basically useless even in midgame.
For anyone who wonder, i have done some testing and you bedt SU for FE ratio is the alternator from craft and addittion until you get the layered magnets and netherite magets (the 2 best ones) which are more efficient at converting su for fe by that point, however if you dlnt care about efficiency but rather power output, i think most new age's magnet work, iirc only the two first tier of magnet have a lesser power output than the alternator
I use both, being new age a sort of late game solution since you can stack the coils and magnets like you can with water wheels
After the TMFG update, I tend to use that, with less addons everything is more organized and I like the approach for TMFG
i also like the aesthetics of tmfg more and it adds steel
Pls, use Create: New Age - Refrubished resource pack. Default textures are not so "Create"
That texture pack still looks ugly
Create: the factory must grow just got an electricity update
There's also electric stonks mod, which basically adds the coil mechanic to make electricity and motors, but nothing else. If you want to use new age with something like immersive engineering, keep in mind that the coil is extremely weak, so you would have to tweak it's power exchange rate in config
I usually use both. But also, as long as New Age continues to have a problem with motors erasing themselves from existence when being loaded, I will be mad at it (and still use it, just with chunkloaders).
Also, take a look at The Factory Must Grow; it may look like it's all about oil, but it also has electricity too.
I have had the blue version of that skin for over a Decade, and am also very much into create. My brother!
amazing video! i would have loved to hear more about the specific requirements and which is "better" for steam engines (specifically, the work put in to make a biofuel farm vs a thorium farm), cant wait to see more from you!
do remember that both have highly configurable configs, both acknowledging each other to keep numbers about equal and explaining formulas for the end user to tweak if they wish to remain equal. For example if you think a full blown steam engine system at the end is not making enough energy, you can simply bump it up, or down, or whatever.
At the end I like both, one does things the other does not, primarily straws, the GOAT
There's a whole mod which just lets Blazes consume liquids and it doesn't require you to craft anything to make it work.
i wish videos like these existed when i was younger
In new age, they should add a siren, when connected to a formed nuclear reactor, it will detect when the reactor is close to meltdown, and start blaring a siren, also new age needs the ability to cool down the reactor with water directly, and you should be able to substitute the reactor glass with water.
I generally just find New Age more fun. Generating electricity with just one block is boring and goes against what Create is all about, but Crafts & Additions is still worth having for all of the other stuff it adds
I had a little problem with Create Additions, the power cables don't seem to work well, if you're going to transfer over a long distance it seems that if the chunks that the power poles are on aren't charged, it doesn't transmit power, so I usually don't use the mod cables, I use them when necessary, but to transmit I usually use Immersive Engineering cables.
Honestly, both mods work wonders together. Not much beats a Solar Powered Steam engine that turns off in the night and automatically turns on during the day. A Small steam engine can use an alternator to produce lots of energy while pumping its own water and still have some SU to spare. I tend to make a LVL3 Steam engine for that purpose. (I'm also using a mod that adds a flywheel clutch that only sends SU into the alternators when the Speed is over 64 RPM (aka. Steam Engine Speed), the startup is linked to another clutch that disenganges when its over the motor's input rotation speed)
Then using a daylight sensor and an AND gate, one can have the motor turn on when The Steam Engine is Off AND its Day.
The Startup Motor Assembly is linked to an isolated (Push & Pull) accumulator while all additional energy gets put into the grid.
Why choose? They're perfectly compatible
You can use cyclic mod to comsume Forge energy . It has cool machine. There is also option to transfer fluid,FE,items wireless.
Battery from create craft and additions mod loose stored energy when it is breaked. But cycle mod Battery and fluid barrel retains its stored content. This is great concept to make Electric car and diesel car and refuel it easily using clockwork
I use both but mainly use the one mod for the straw in the beginning stages because it makes it easier to
You are definitely more than 33% to your subscriber goal!!
I gotta update that!
@@KwizzleHazzizle You'll be at 10k in no time!!!
@@justcamaAt my current rate I'll be there some time in September!
20:40
Each individual engine outputs 16,384 SU. A Max level (super heated blaze burners) steam boiler can support 18 engines. This means you can actually support 18 alternators, not just 15, as each alternator consumers 16,384 SU at 256 RPM.
This brings the total FE produced up to 6,480. Still less than New Age, but not over 1k less.
How do you make generator coils in new age
Copper surrounded by a shaft i think
what if you use the new age connectors and wires with craft and additions power... would it spread the power evenly?
1:49 no brass required you say? Then how do you craft rotation speed controllers?
Gear shifting
@@chaosthunder6853 you’ll need hell of a gearshift to turn 4 rpm into 64 rpm lmao
@@Dhdja2741 just 4 of normal & large cogwheel each plus some shaft. Pretty cheep
True, but it's quite easy to get up to 32 rpm by either using faster sources like small waterwheels or windmills in combination with cogwheels.
@@Dhdja2741 if 8 shaft and 12 plant is expensive idk man.
I had a problem with the alternator where it would ban some of my friends and someone like me, who somehow was impervious to the ban, had to break the block
I use Extreme Reactors, and then I connect some New Age motors to have rotacional energy
Actually usefull video
Now i know, whitch mod i want in my next play with my friend
Thank you!
Hey glad I could help!
i use both and they work great together
Crafts and Additions is the better mod because it doesn't just add the electric stuff. It adds chocolate cake too!
These mods are completely incomparable. New Age is an expansion mod about throwing Create into a new technological age. Crafts and Additions is an expansion mod about building on what Create already has. They're just not the same genre of mod.
we can configure both systems right? if so we might adapted craft & additions altenator to New age's Magnet system and expand it mathematically
that way we can crank up asthetic and energy production, but i like both to be installed despite we parity them both for asthetic reason
Now we need
Create New age vs Immersive engineering vs Create crafts and additions. Which is best?
Immersive Engineering is nothing like either of these mods except it also has wires. Otherwise it's a completely different thing.
I tend to use mekanism and immersive engineering with create along with big reactors.
Thanks for video!
how do you wear the pale gold amulet
I mean the new age netherite magnet section was moving REALLY slowly and also you can stack multiple coils
They're both compatible with each other just use both
U are right
their electricity stuff does not work together
I still remember when no one knew about create, when the test footage had like 2000 views
Create sure has come far
i highly suggest using either if youre using create with immersive engineering
high voltage wire my beloved
should be said, the energy being used by new age motors directly corolates to the su made
10:20 nah that's just a bug probably in code tested for the length to be under 16 instead of under or equal to 16
can you store electricity from create new age in the "battery" (accumilators) and then use that power with create new age again? (and can i somehow use relays in the create new age mod combined with crafts and additions)
Yeah, since both use normal FE.
So if i wanna generate more then 45 or 50 fe/t i need multiple settups? Or am i missing something?
Does the process of generating electricity cause mechanical resistance like in the real world or is it possible to just get infinite energy?
Does the new age thing allow to power machines from other mods, for example Immersive Engineering?
Yeah, unless the mod needs voltage and/or other stuff. Then they most probably wont work with each other.
I kinda wish crafts and additions would have an "electricity clutch" that you could put on batterys, if you give it a redstone signal, it allows electricity to leave the battery.
Can it even convert an Immersive Engineering power?
Now i use TFMG, the generator in this mod is very cool.
I think both is useful because uh I forgot makes forge energy which can allow compatibility with many other mods
for some reason i can already feed lava to my blaze burners without a straw ?
the factory must grow is a very in depth alternative!
Cannot wait for Mechano to come out
I wonder if the connectors and connecting to the connectors...
I wish these mods had functional breaker switches so we can shut off the electricity.
Does that Corium have a use? Or is just created when Meltdown happens?
No, tho you can mine corium before it turns solid and use it to melt through blocks.
Why is the piston from the steam engine so fast 21:19
Could you do a review on the new Create TFMG update? They added a bunch of electricity related stuff.
I would like to do that, just have to set aside some time to look at the changes
why do we use them if they inefficient?
Personally, i feel that crafts and additions is way more fitting for create, but it could use some polish. The aesthetics are great, and feel very createy, and things like nuclear reactors and solar lenses feel too modern for the steampunk vibe i get from create. I also like the extra things from C&A like barbed wire, and the fact that it isnt too late game but not early game either. However, i think it could do with more multiblock structures, and it should use an even distribution instead of whatever it does here, and maybe a bit more detail to the power system.
"In terms of power generation" bro had the netherite coil spinning insanely slow, it would produce a lot more if given more rpm, which is what you're supposed to do
but you cant give it more rpm cuz it will be over stressed. he was only feeding it 2,048su to stay comparable with the alternator. the stronger the coil the more su it uses per rpm, so for the same su you have to reduce the rpm.
Tbh I use the Thermal series for my electricity needs coupled with immersive Engineering. Thermal machines are AMAZING but are a PAIN to power and Immersive power is awesome but you can only scale it slowly. I can see how Create could allow for a gear shifting system for charging Immersive Tools stupidly fast or generating massive power for walls of Thermal Machines. I’m gonna have to try these for myself. Been needing something to replace Nuclearcraft in 1.20.
I always use Powah with a Blazing Magmator or two connected to an infinite lava pump with create. It's very late game, but it's insanely good power.
Now, make a Versus with both these mods and Create The factory must grow
The biggest difference I'm seeing seems to be, at the most basic,
Consistency starting later
Vs
Upgrades over time starting earlier
personally I really like the new age spinning generators as they mimic real generators
i kind of wish they were compatible with more mods
They're compatible with every mod that uses FE, which is to say basically every tech mod.
I just simply dont get the matter of these mods. There is a literal endless energy called redstone in the game. Why do we need to produce energy out of kynetics? I could get the point if it removes all redstone relations and focuses on how we gain electricity irl. But it those none of these??
But these are fun!
@@KwizzleHazzizle Yes they are. But they look stupid side by side to redstone. The one thing just works(redstone), and the other one looks like it takes sideways to go to the same outcome. Plus it works less efficient as it features energy loss.
@@modernerdadaismus8430 Well, one thing to note is that redstone can be slower as you'd need repeaters to extend your signal lengths which can add a delay. Passing signals through different redstone components may also add delays. Redstone is also bulkier when moving vertically whereas Create only needs a 1 block thick rod going up and down. This electricity add-on also makes it have a lot more range than redstone does horizontally. Redstone can also be destroyed by water whereas Create components can be waterlogged. Using kinetics also lets you fine-tune the speed of machines whereas configuring speed using redstone is more tedious. Redstone lines can not be adjacent to eachother and the way blocks are powered can make or break a machine, whereas kinetics makes it much easier to have compact builds without worrying about different systems interfering with each other.
Both Create and Redstone have their own purposes, and redstone is even used in some Create machines, the fundamental concepts of how they function is different so they fill different niches.
...............and Create just simply looks cooler, that is 90% of the reason people use Create.
Because Create adds recipes and ways of playing the game that makes it extremely worthwhile. It's simple. It works. Iron and gold farms that are easily expandable without gamebreaking bugs or endless hours of mining and headache.
It adds a fun puzzling challenge that isn't too frustrating.
And like the other people say, it's really cool to look at.
Plus i'd rather pass a golfball sized kidney stone than trying to learn advanced redstone.
@chrissant6277 Its everything but simple like I said. Of course its cool to look at, but as it does not remove redstone it fakes a second energy theory which makes no sense. Like why do you need to craft a reactor to produce the energy while redstone is self releasing it infinitely. We can talk about your opinion infinetely aswell, as its stating your preference, which is valid. That still does not change the fact that this mod makes 0 total sense in minecraft, while standing next to redstone, instead of replacing it.
I think that this something at 14:15 is a celsius or kelvin but more likely celsius
I am just a new age person. I enjoyed it before I saw this video
I want some hardcore challanges. For that, ı am using New Age! And ı think it is more detailed.
I wanted to use both in my world with other addons too but sadly New Age is not really compatible with Optifine and whenever I wanted to put down an Energizer, it crashed my game so I needed to get rid of it :/
That the SU to FE conversion rate is identical is a result of the New Age default settings being intentionally tweaked for that.
I am currently using both in my modpack, I like how these mods are compatible. However I think using New Age's generators can be both easier and more efficient to use, I have an setup that generates pretty good amount for low su and wasn't hard to craft. But take accumulators for example, New Age's accumulators just suck.
What would be totally overpowering would be using mods like Bigger Reactors or even the Draconic Evolution reactor to generate energy and turn on these little electric motors that practically use no energy compared to how much these reactors generate.
for those who do not know, the base create mod has an item called the straw, which allows you to give lava to blaze burners.
It's not in base create mod, it's in crafts and additions
I feel like New Age needs to be split into two mods: one focused on the actual generators and another focused on the nuclear reactor.
As cool as it is to see a realistic depiction of a nuclear reactor, the fact is we don't really need it.
I do.
I like that it uses Thorium, instead of Uranium
what if i already have both?
Are there any mods that convert FE to Redstone?
you forgot to specify that thorium is renewable, you can make it by mixing clay, water, stone and anothe piece of thorium to make 2 thorium essentially duplicating it
i think it also depends on height??
i like new age more purely for its progression feeling
i much prefer having early innefficient things that lead into lategame power houses than 1 mid game thing that will be it
(outside of wire connectors but those dont really feel impactful to me)
plus the aesthetic of new age is much cooler
Absolutely. The electricity in Crafts and Additions is just a random extra thing in a mod all about adding random extra things to Create. The electricity in New Age is a whole progression system, it's what the mod is focused on.
crafts & additions + diesel generators
I love the Crafts & Additions aesthetics, switches and lamps, but the New Age's large generators are nice and power distribution mechanic is way better. If the demand is too high the whole network gets a brownout. I got weird issues with a massive factory with many switchable networks in C&A where machines won't start or would work for a bit then stutter and stop while the generation was more than adequate.
However, in reality, part of the electrical network burned out due to excessively high voltage.
Do they work interchangeably because i always download both
The should because the both use the standard forge electricity
@@themightyo5367they dont because connectors work differently however create addition's connectors work with immersive engineering
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The max new age magnets has like ~95% efficiency. This scales on how fast it’s spinning, and is expandable. People would probably be using the second best magnet with ~75% efficiency though, but they can just put more generators down in a chain. Hook this up to a steam engine and the FE you get is ridiculous