Why I Love Fantasia
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2018
- Could anyone guess that the guy who loves music and movies would love the movie about music?
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“He used a technique called a leitmotif
Not sure if I’ve mentioned this on my channel before”
Only in about every video haha
SF Glim I could guess there's not a single video but the kpop one
I think he was doing something that I recently read about in this article:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke
I laughed pretty hard when he said that
Is that primal dialga?
Sorry, wrong channel
ShadowChords I think they knew that it was a joke
"I think Disney just wanted an excuse to draw volcanoes and dinosaurs."
I mean, wouldn't you?
The first ever scientifically aspiring Dinosaurs on media. In a form of art. Something remarkable if you ask me. They even make Rite of Spring's animated segment into a documentary in 1955 to explain's science latest explanation for Earth's history, which can give you the appropriate scope of how incredibly good it was back in the day and how It's still gorgeous animation today. Defining Fantasia is defining and all time classic.
That comment should be on top!
"I think he was wrong, and a Nazi, but still, very wrong"
Pretty strange "but" in there. Also he wasn't a Nazi. He was an anti-Semite, but did not believe in racial superiority. Hitler loved Wagner though, and that helped ruin his reputation some more.
Lilliath _How_ was he an anti-Semite but did not believe in racial superiority?
Wagner was not an all-out-racist like many people say he was. In fact he rejected some most aryanist racial theories. But since "Nazi" is used here in it's modern use as a term to describe someone with an ideology that is hostile towards certain individuals because of their group membership, be it class, race or gender and he was still an opportunistic, anti-semite, christianist and at least latent rascist asshole, so I really don't object to the use of that term.
Also most of his theory work is just shameless masturbation. Like really shameless. And bad.
+Arunima Tiwari
He hated their religion and cultural influence on Germany, not so much their race.
yeah the bible is a complete work of fiction but the Egyptians did actually have Jewish slaves as did other civilizations. Through history the Jews were always mistreated. But my point is everyone only ever seems to remember the Nazis. Even during the war it was never about the Jews. Nobody was trying to help the Jews when declaring war on Hitler. The British and Americans were fighting against Germany's expansion in Europe and most Russians hated Jews. Throughout history there has been much distrust of the Jews and many were expelled from countries all together. It is not strange that an American was an anti-Semite in the 30's but this does not make him a Nazi. The Nazi's were just a small group of Anti-Semites in the grand scale of history. It just annoys me that everyone calls any Anti-Semite 'Nazis', as if the Nazis were the only group of people to hate Jews through-out all of history. Its like saying all dinosaurs were Tyrannosaurs just because they are the ones that everyone remembers. But pretty much today Nazi is just another word for bad.
"I think he was wrong, and a nazi"
This nearly KILLED me
That was brilliantly done; dude's views on people weren't relevant to the topic, but they also weren't ignored. Film schools trip over that hurdle. "Ignore the beliefs and just watch me make my point!"
"...Using nazi propaganda?"
@@meghanhenderson6682 YES! Sideways is never hesitant to be honest about their opinions and always has the perfect nuance to debate topics that sometimes people feel scared of, which is why this is my favorite channel!
I think the only reason I even knew Wagner was a n@zi is because of Nietzsche’s “Nietzsche Contra Wagner”, a huge philisophical essay about why Nietz stopped being friends with him, mainly due to his anti-semitism & his absolutist control over his music & its production. Despite the seemingly endless & haughty language, it really gave me the insight as to why Wagner’s opinions can’t be ignored when analyzing his music. Nietzsche makes several points about how Wagner’s grandiose ideas of himself intertwine with his music. Would highly recommend.
He's humour kills me
In another video, Sideways clarified that Wagner wasn't a Nazi, but most definitely would have been if he had lived during Hitler's rise.
“The original Poké Rap... is no Gesamtkunstwerk. THAT’S RIGHT! I’LL SAY IT AGAIN!”
Yes! BDG's vocab lesson finally coming in handy here!
Oh, my god. Thank you.
thank you so much for commenting this, as soon as he said that word in this video I was hoping someone commented this.
RIP Terry the Tangela :(
Man I love this channel; your voice, your jokes, your taste in music, your ability to apply musical theory to critical cinematic analysis, and now you're doing my favorite Disney movie, it's just so great and I love it. I just needed to say that.
Awsamazing Eden I feel the same way!
"He was the best composer who ever lived and anyone who disagrees IS WRONG, and your mom is ugly" fucking great 😁
He makes jokes?
Fav movie too
I really wanna like your comment but your comment has the number 888....and I don’t wanna ruin it...
"Once upon a time there was this guy called Beethoven, he was the best composer who ever lived and anyone who disagrees is wrong. AND their mom is ugly" I agree mostly, though Bach is either really close or on the same level.
Yeah I'm a Bach fan as well.
Does he have his picture on a bubblegum card?
Beethoven was actually a huge fan of Bach and kept a picture of him on his desk.
Your comment but exchange Beethoven and Bach
Romantic music is better and anybody who disagrees should move (run) to Wyoming where I can’t find them.
Because god help them if I do
wait what's a leitmotif
edit: before you reply to this, please don't. I know what a leitmotif is, this was a joke. I'm tired of getting notifications after two years please stop please
dragzarmilon lol
dragzarmilon A Leitmotiv is a musical motive/ a short melody or riff which is associated to a character or a situation, for example „ellie‘s theme“ from the pixar movie „up“, that means this musical theme is repeated in that specific situation/when the character shows up
Eva Berger I'm assuming you know it was a joke?
i dunno, i don't think he mentioned them :''(
What do leitmotifs have to do with this video?
When will you finally explain what a leitmotif is?
Not sure if trolling (he has mentioned it in a lot of his videos) and I'll get wooshed, or if genuine question. If genuine:
A leitmotif is a piece of music that represents a person, place, or thing in a narrative. (6:44)
A great example of leitmotif is the usage of Gwynn's theme in Dark Souls, Dark Souls 3, and the song Fading Light by Aviators (the song is a homage to DS3). During the battle with Gwynn in Dark Souls he's music will start playing for the duration of the fight. It reappears in the battle with the final boss in Dark Souls 3 (excluding DLCs) too, which completely blew open what the last boss in the game was and was perhaps the biggest dump of lore the series have ever given the players.
And Fading Light is a song dedicated to the series, so it needs to have that small melodic line to really give it the DS feel.
@sunflower its r/woooosh with 4 os
@sunflower r/woooosh
@@0tterteeth684 whooooshception
@@danielnodland4072 I'm new to this channel and I was genuinely wondering. ^^
Drinking milk at 6:45 was the greatest mistake I've ever made im my life
i.e. he mentions it in literally every video
I pictured it
This is why end credits compositions are the best of most films. There are no constraints of movie scenes.
Evan Guthrie And in certain situations opening credits as well!
I’m always impressed watching the newer Batman films and finding little nuggets they expanded upon from Danny Elfman’s soundtracks, even just little sounds that were only in the credits music.
Thanks mate
_An artist who tries to commit suicide because he's in love, but he tries to commit suicide by overdosing, but he doesn't take enough to actually be like a lethal dose, so instead he just gets really really high_
Story of my life right there
I played one of the pieces from that symphony and it’s real trippy lol
Hol' up
Are you okay?
And Berlioz composed this symphony in response to a women who rejected him (I think she was a famous opera singer). Before the premier, he publicly stated this the piece was inspired by their rejection (this is particularly relevant because the symphony itself has many parallels to his own life). After it, both of them actually married. However, they only stayed together for two years and were not happy because she (I think) had a drinking problem and he, I mean, was also quite messed up. So this is the story of how Hector Berlioz composed a symphony to get back at a girl who rejected him to later find out, that it probably had been better if it had stayed that way.
Sonnenlein he also directly threatened to do exactly what the guy in his symphony did which is to overdose on opioids “for love”
So Fantasia is a bit like a long music video????
It takes Sideways 10 mintues to say this comment
its about the journey not the destination though :p
It's a classical music video!
The first true music video.
More like an anthology of seven music videos.
You're like the Vsauce of music. You'll start on one topic, and slowly transfer to another topic.
It's true: The Rite of Spring was an excuse to draw volcanos and dinosaurs.
Beautiful breakdown! I love "mickey mousing" in animation and I wish it would make a comeback. Soundtracks like Lady and the Tramp's and other early Disney films blend music and movement in such a pleasing way.
TennelleFlowers just watch Baby Driver. You can see Mickey Mousing in live action!
Most Disney live action films made during his lifetime used extensive Mickey Mousing.
Oh hey Tenn!
Of all the people I expected to find here, you weren’t the first one to pop into mind
Oh hey tennelle
Oh, I think you've definitely mentioned leitmotifs before a couple of times... Once? Twice?
In every video?
the funny lad
That's what you call a good joke.
For the record guys, I know it's a joke
Tuba_G that's why I didn't woooosh you! I knew you were aware of it!
FOG MFD Okay man just making sure 😂
Hey, I've heard that iconic Japanese composer, Yoko Kanno works on her music before the show gets made. Admittedly she works mostly on anime and its structure might be different from a movie but Her compositions are fantastic all the same and I think her music does a lot to inform the direction of a show. Though she doesn't really do leitmotifs.
A lot of anime music is made before the show is iirc
I would go so far as to say that she *can't* use leitmotif if she works on the music before the show is made. She can do a lot, certainly, especially if the animators collaborate and use her direction in the music to influence the show itself, but using leitmotif really requires that you know exactly what is going on, not just generally know what is happening.
what is a leitmotif again ? i dont think you mentioned it before :P
i think you should have posted an entire wiki article instead.
Barış Usseli Then I must have written whatever wiki article you read
I know I was being sarcastic
He mentions them in every second video
Tanks abyways :ρ
6:19
I'm a classically trained musician & i always heard great things about "Fantasia"- now i see why, tx for your video. I'm going to watch Fantasia now.
I'm pretty sure Berlioz was high while writing Symphony Fantastiuqe
The amount of times he must have practiced saying >...
Fun fact: The choir seen and heard in Fantasia was the Westminster Choir, the founding ensemble for Westminster Choir College. My Alma mater.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on each individual piece in “Fantasia” - Perhaps a mini review series?
Also I am obsessed with “The Rite of Spring” and would love to hear your thoughts on it and its various forms (ballet, animated, modern interpretations). Favorite piece of music.
OMG You Sir have just changed my entire perspective on music. Finally I can see through my music with the correct point of view! Just keep doing this INCREDIBLE work!!!!!
I feel like this a *super* passive aggressive comment lol
"I'm not sure if I've ever mentioned this on my channel..." HAH
A few movies had their soundtrack, or parts it, composed before the shooting. Notably For a few dollars more, The good the bad and the ugly, and Once upon a time in the west. For each successive film Leone asked Morricone to compose more and more music before the shooting. Culminating with nearly the whole soundtrack of Once upon a time in the west being composed before so that it could be played during shooting.
Conan the Barbarian is also a film where the score was composed beforehand and the movie was filmed with the music in mind.
@@eyegrinder94 and that's yet another wonderful score! ❤️
Sideways: "leitmotif"
Everybody: "Ah shit, here we go again..."
I'm havin a rough morning but seeing you uploaded a video made me all happy and excited so HEY THANKS FOR THAT that's neat
6:45 HAVE YOU EVER WATCHED YOUR VIDEOS
My favourite film and one of the reasons I love music and animation.
My old VHS is absolutely trashed, as a kid (3yo and up) I used to watch it at least once every night.
Same here. Except my parents made me watch "Fantasia" every night because they thought the classical music would be boring enough to make me fall asleep. Sadly, they were wrong. 😊
We played Berlioz in a concert, and boy did the orchestra director have a fun time describing what the music was actually about
I love Sideways' videos because the title makes you think you're just gonna hear some guy talk about some movie or something but when you actually watch them you get an entire history lesson
man that "leitmotif" thing sounds really interesting, sideways should talk about it more on his videos.
"I think Disney just wanted to draw some dinosaurs and volcanoes!"
I mean, who doesn't?
I think the point you make about how the animation serves the music is why Fantasia 2000 is (in general) a shadow of it's predecessor. It focused too much on animated storytelling whether or not the music actually fit the story they were trying to tell (Donald Duck Noah's ark for example).
Xplayer007 As much as I adored Fantasia 2000, I have to agree that it is weaker than the first one for this exact reason.
What was up with Kathleen Battle shrieking away at the end of the Noah's ark segment? That arrangement sounded more like PDQ Bach than Peter Schickele.
I thought they did a splendid job of matching the story (or, rather, stories) to the music in the Gershwin segment. And choosing to mimic Al Hirschfeld's drawing style was an inspired decision.
And, although I admit I cringed a bit at the thought of being subjected to a Shostakovich piano concerto, I again thought they crafted a story that fit the music perfectly. (Admittedly, I have no idea whether they rearranged the music to fit the plot, as they did so extensively in the first movie with the Rite of Spring.) I even ended up enjoying the music because of it.
In those two sequences, at least, I'd say they succeeded admirably in creating stories that served the music.
That does sum up the "weakness" of Fantasia 2000 quite well. Though I really really really like the "Rhapsody In Blue" sequence, the rest of the film (with the exception of the inclusion of "Sorcerer's Apprentice") I don't seem to appreciate nearly as much.
Have you heard the history of why "Fantasia" was created in the first place? Believe it or not, Mickey Mouse wasn't doing so well at the box office. So Walt Disney came up with the idea for the "Sorcerer's Apprentice" cartoon to help elevate Mickey Mouse, to outsell the other cartoons. Eventually the idea for the full "Fantasia" film was fleshed out and this exceptionally beautiful animated film is the extrordinary result. All because Popeye cartoons were more popular at the box office than Mickey Mouse.
Actually Rhapsody was supposed to be its own animated short before it was used in Fantasia, kind of like Sorcerer's Apprentice which might be why it's so iconic.
Your stance on Beethoven made my day a lot better
"Why I love Fantasia" Fantasia talked about for 20% of the video I love it
Also,
L E I T M O T I F
Whatchu say about my Mama?
SHE UGLY
and gay
The Great Me-sama Nothing wrong with that, so your insult fails. IT FAILS.
Arunima Tiwari someone doesn't get the joke~~
The Great Me-sama It was a bad one imo.
I got notified of a new video, 3 seconds later, "Leitmotifs"!!!!!!
Fantasia is a visual soundtrack... an animatrack?
Anyway, this video was awesome and the conclusion you drew made my jaw drop. Amazing work~
My problem with Frozen is that the writers admitted they rewrote Elsa character and the whole plot all over just for Let it go. Thats storytelling fail right there because that makes it more difficut to tell a story if the songs come first. In the old films Disney would scrap songs if they didn't fit the scene. Fantasia doesn't have this problem because even thou the songs come first, the story doesn't suffer cause THERE IS NONE.
It reminds me of the way ballet music works. For example, one of my favourite ballets is Romeo and Juliet, music by Prokofiev and choreography by Nureyev. In 1935, the story of Romeo and Juliet inspires Prokofiev to compose the music. So it's basically programme music. And in 1984, Nureyev creates the choreography on the music. So the visual element comes after the music.
Yes and it's probably not a coincidence that Fantasia is made up of mostly ballet music
the picture of Dipper Pines made me wheeze because your voice has always reminded me of someone else and it's 1000% him lol
this man is literally who i want to become in life he’s so educated in classical music to state all so much information and the history of a musical topic so well and so thorough good job amazing videos
There's this Dies Irae piece by Liszt called "Totentanz," and I love it. It uses that theme throughout the whole piece, about 15 minutes long, and it it brilliant.
Yes! My favorite piece with piano by Liszt! What do you think of his purely orchestral pieces like the Faust and Dante symphonies?
Is This A Pigeon Honestly, I haven't lisztened to much Liszt, but I bet I'll like it. I'll give them a liszten.
Please do! The Faust symphony especially is a truly stupendous work, with many similarities to the Totentanz
great liszt pun btw
Dies Irae was used for death, much before Berlioz, in Mozart’s and Verdi’s requiem.
Finally getting around to saying it: your voice sounds like a combination of Gaijin Goomba and my friend Brent and it makes me so damn giddy because I love listening to both of them talk and now I have that voice tied to amazing content that fascinates and flabbergasts me.
Fantasia is what got me to love and learn how to play the bassoon
My mom would get all the paints out and then put on the Fantasia soundtrack and tell me to paint to the music. She was a school teacher and would do this for her kids in class too. Always thought that was pretty cool.
WOOHOO ANOTHER SIDEWAYS VIDEO!
Impressive analysis, loved it. Thanks for this, and keep up the amazing work!
When watching behind the scenes from Fantasia you know that Disney Animation studios used Silly Symphony as a testing ground for new ideas or techniques, so they could later use that in Fantasia.
And now I just want to watch fantasia....
"Fantasia is what a soundtrack looks like."
Nah, Fantasia is what a soundtrack sees when it looks into a mirror.
What it really is Carl Stalling's "Skeleton Dance".
Good video, but i have to disagree with something, you said "Music has to adapt to what is happening to screen". That might be true sometimes, but Michel Chion explains that sound doesn't come to tell the same story that the screen is telling, but to change it, he talks about "musica anempática" (i don't how it's translated to english) but he basically describes how music can tell something completely different to what the screen is telling, so basically if you take the sound off from an image you can tell the difference. I think a good example of this is the beginning of The Shinning, where you see a beautiful landscape but with that dissonant and low synthesizer, if you turn off the sound from that scene, the story is completely different, you can almost say is a happy scene.
Hope i made myself clear.
Great insight. There's a good video here on UA-cam putting Salisbury Hill over scenes from The Shining to just totally reimagine the film.
2:03 I see what your saying, but then again Chopin
It makes a lot of sense to do the music first and then the animation. Great observation :)!
I've watched a shit ton of anime and Fantasia is still my favorite animated film.
best part is that people's moms are ugly. ahahaha this was great
THESE ARE FACTS
The 5th movement of Symphonie Fantastique is one of my favorite musical pieces.
3 years too late but "THIS is what a sound trakc LOOKS LIKE" made me cry
How do you know what the story is by listening to the music only?
I can never do that.
How do I know that the music is about being in the hall of a mountain king and not about a kayak race?
That’s the thing: the very nature of music means that it is fundamentally incapable of communicating an exact, literal narrative, and ONLY that particular narrative. Where music shines is in its ability to communicate abstract feelings.
If you have a lot of time on your hands, id recommend listening to this whopper of a Chinese orchestra piece and see what you glean from it. Most people I've heard describe it told a pretty constant story to it. Lemme know if you do decide to do it I kinda wanna see how clearly this piece can convey its story. ua-cam.com/video/rb9hThswG4A/v-deo.html
(I'm sry I'm like rly passionate abt this one, my interpretation according to the gist of the description below if you want an explanation)
Anyway it's a piece abt a peaceful town that goes to war, briefly loses, mourns the loss of its soldiers with tears and a funeral, then goes to war again and wins this time. I think the way the music does this for ppl is with reeeeaaaally literal representations, like a bass drum playing a dying out heartbeat to show a person dying, or some of the percussion sounding kinda like clashing weapons, or the flutes and strings literally wailing during the crying bit, or a section that sounds like the slow footsteps of a funeral march, or the peaceful solo being intersected by ominous quiet semiquavers and drumrolls to represent approaching danger, or a certain galloping rhythm being used to convey a cavalry arriving, or some of the bits with the war being cacophony and chaos in every aspect.
I’ll certainly check it out, it seems interesting!
Sudev Sen "Kayak race." I see what you did there.
Yeah, well, this is why titles and lyrics exist. They give you some context, but the story itself can still be told entirely by music.
C'mon man! I was about to go to bed!
your channel is fantastic! Ive just been getting into classical music and this just helps me appreciate it even more. Thank you Sideways!
I’ve been missing my fav podcast, The Soundtrack Show, that just finished its second season. So finding your channel came just in time! Already in love with your channel. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and passion.
I do wonder why Mozart is considered "the best" by Sideways.
Wagner was red pilled? Hell yeah, nigga!
this just completely flipped my understanding of animatics as a medium on its head
Every time they bring this back to the cinema I go and see it!
Fantasia has the best Disney villain. Chernabog. He's literally the devil. Your argument is invalid.
Awsamazing Eden actually, it's Chernobog.
Yes and no. Deems Taylor's introduction in the original cut of the movie identifies him as Satan, but this was retconned at some point and the character has officially been Chernabog for decades.
Awsamazing Eden agreed! You may have heard that Disney is making a live action version of Night On a Bald Mountain... Ugh hm... I’m bummed about it and find it frightfully unnecessary. What say you?
Michelle Taggart I feel the same, I mean how will that work? Then again, idk maybe it can work lol
Awsamazing Eden *your
What I learned from this video was that a Nazi indirectly created the soundtracks for Pikmin and Mario...
Nice!
Not a Nazi as in national socialist, but an antisemite back when everyone was... so... I guess that doesn't make it better but eh
Wow, that was an incredible! Start with Fantasia, explain the past to address the present, then show the beauty that is the beginning topic. I liked the content and I liked the format. Great work!
ahh, this just unlocked a memory! I went to see this movie in theaters with my class. It was amazing to watch with the surround sound theater speakers 🥺
What exactly did you mean about Franz Liszt being the first Elvis? I NEED EXPLANATIOOONNNNN
What he probably meant was that Liszt had a sort of Elvis-like cult following around him and his performances, to the point that someone coined the term “Lisztomania” to describe his admirers devotion to him (this was before the term “beatlemania” was coined, i might add)
Oh man, he was crazy and his fans were crazy, throwing themselves at the stage, capsizing his carriages at times, shouting "Long Live Liszt!". There was nearly rioting when he returned to Budapest, and he was overheard to say "Le concert, c'est moi", paraphrasing Louis XIV and not-so-subtly crowning himself the King of the Symphony.
All this while Liszt was a devout catholic who almost became a priest...
@@sebastianmyhre7220 He became pretty pious in his later life. I wonder if he sorta regretted his "youthful days" to become more devout in his faith, especially as he dedicated himself to composition and away from his earlier virtuosic self, after all, his works became much more complex afterwards (there's also the notion that the virtuosity of Liszt would actually have been very different from the virtuosity of his successors as well as what we perceive in the 20th century and onward as "virtuosity")
@@politesse3914 I used to have a parakeet that went crazy whenever I played his songs (which is why I named him Franzie).
Every single video of yours I've watched mentions the dies irae at least once. Are you trying to insinuate something? 🤔
I just found your channel and all of your videos so far have left me with my mouth open
I LOVE your sense of humor. You’re one of my fav UA-camrs. Hope you’re safe during this wild time. ❤️
Fantasia is just a very ambitious and beautiful film (series). I've always loved them, and they got me into wanting to work in the animation industry. Highly underrated. I hope that someday I work my way up to Disney to kickstart another installment like Walt wanted.
As an animator this video is amazingly inspiring and interesting.
Youre the best sideways, next paycheck I'm jumping on your patreon cuz this channel gives me life. Love your work thank you for continuing to make it!!! ❤
My parents had me watch Fantasia as I was growing up when I was little and I’m so glad for that because it was the beginning of my love for classical music.
I lkke when the music and the video are syncronized, I think calling it "mikeymousing" is restricting it to comedy, and I think it could work well for dramatic or even sad moments. I just think it needs another name
Actually Disney used Mickey Mousing in the golden age and to masterful effect.
Do a video on Anthony Fantano and your thoughts on him.
My favorite film ever since I was 2
Something about listening to you nerd out about music makes me feel smart
*Excuse me,* but I think Ravel is the best composer who has ever lived!
🤷🏼 Then I'm sorry about your mom. You accept the terms.
I don't think I quite understand this "leitmotif" thing you're talking about. Maybe you should talk about it more in your videos
Silly symphonies are the BEST
Thank you for the educational videos
I for one don't like the rapidity of quick narratives, yet you add melody and inflection with you quick explanations making it sonically easier for me to withstand. Thank you for your artistry.
Nerd
And?
@@oof-rr5nf whoosh
@@jimmyjohnjoejr.9020 That's fair
@@oof-rr5nf sorry
@@jimmyjohnjoejr.9020 why? I am genuinely agreeing with ya
The new rayman games had the same trouble, the music is amazing but they wanted to sync it up to with what was going on and the timing was awkward
I’m really glad you make these videos. Keeps my music education alive after graduating.
Your videos are so interesting. Making me fall in love with music more and more!!!
Reminder Wagner would likely be a based Trump supporter today and collaborate with Kanye to make the next My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy.
;-)
Great video as ever, Sideways, but did you really have to rant about Jewish people at the last two minutes of the video?
Fantasia has always been one of my favourite films, and now I have another reason to love it!
I am soooooo happy I found your channel. It's so freaking awesome!!!
What’s with the hating on Wagner? You keep on calling him a nazi, which is impossible due to chronology. Also, many of Wagner’s beliefs are in direct contradiction to the National Socialist ideology, such as the emphasis on compassion in his operas, a trait that the nazis declared to be weak and subhuman. I may be wrong, but I think that emphasizing Wagner’s anti-semitic sentiments (which where no doubt disgusting) takes away from his musical genius. Personally, I think that the harmonic advances of Tristan and Isolde guarantee Wagner’s place next to Beethoven.
Aside from all that, your videos are all fantastically well done.
Wagner wasn't a literal Nazi, because as you say he was around before Nazis were a thing. But he was a very well-known and vocal anti-semite, to the point that he's almost single-handedly responsible for Mendelssohn being a third-tier composer in terms of fame among non-musicians today, rather than a second-tier one.
I agree with you there that TECHNICALLY Wagner can't be a Nazi (and this is coming from a girl raised Jewish) because the party didn't exist yet. HOWEVER, not only could we likely imply that Wagner would support the Nazi regime, he was sponsered by Hitler and was known to be fascinated by the ideas of racial science. It would be easier in this case to call him a Nazi because you wouldn't need to go into specific details. People hear Nazi, they think it's bad which it is.
So I don't think it's WRONG to call him a Nazi. Nazi no longer means a member of the specific political party and while we can debate if that's right or not, at least can agree this video was pretty good.
While I disagree with the claim that Wagner would have supported the nazi party, there is certainly truth what you say about nazism having become separate from the nazi party, and it is certainly true that Wagner held abhorrent views on race.
(btw, since you’ve been raised jewish, could I ask you what you think about the unofficial ban on Wagner’s music in Israel? I’m conflicted on the whole issue, since it would be silly to ignore the fact that Wagner indirectly fueled the holocaust, but I still think his music deserves a chance.)
Yes, Wagner’s smear campaign on Mendelssohn is especially vicious when one consideres the fact that Wagner, being a great musician, must have recognized Mendelssohn’s skill, but nevertheless let his anti-semitism to cloud his judgement. It is particularly striking to note that Wagner quotes Mendelssohn extensively in Parsifal! All this makes me wonder what Wagner would have said of Mahler, a truly great (jewish) composer...
I don't like Fantasia because they kind of butchered certain pieces. For example, watch their Rite of Spring.
RDVMusic idk, I absolutely love that slightly shorter version performed by the Chicago symphony, those horns at the end always make me ball out. Only a little bit was taken out from that piece, a d personally I'm fine with what they omitted.
Roberto Esquivel Well in my opinion, the best part of all was taken out
I use to sit in front of the TV and watch fantasia over and over as a kid in the 90s.
Fantasia 2000 also did a good job expanding that concept too.