Ugh. Shark tale. I worked at Office Depot when that movie came out on dvd, and they played that damn movie all day on a loop, every day, for about a month, I worked the tech section and it was a slow store, so I watched this movie roughly about 200 times.
I’m late to the party but I believe when Oscar says “We cool?” and the shark boss says “We cool.”, the shark is just saying that Oscar’s city is cool. We can safely assume there are other cities for the sharks to plunder.
The ending really doesn't show any signs of friendship between them. They just had a truce, that's it. Oscar did took credit for his son's death after all.
@@rayronnyd4659 yeah but he asks if "_we_ can walk the streets" now, implying that fish in general don't have to fear the sharks, and the dance montage shows sharks having fun hanging out with various fish. The implication is that they're friends now, which sort of just doesn't make sense.
nostalgic childhood memories... i probably only saw shark tale twice. i don't have any nostalgic memory of it. i watched it as a kid when it were a knew movie out on dvd. our mom brought it home. the mindset, experience, and perception of life at the time you were watching a movie could also possibly effect your memory of it. like for example, as a kid, the ben 10 movie was awesome. but if you were to think of it today as you've grown up, you know it's ultimately designed to entertain kids.
"I've always shipped her with the Martin Scorsese puffer fish. I think they'd have some great emotional, but more importantly physical chemistry" Joel how could you ever utter something so completely cursed
my only two memories of this movie is the 70s soundtrack which i really enjoyed as a child and, more importantly, a joke that i barely understood on first viewing: theres a quick montage of everyday life in the fish city, and theres a brief moment inside a sushi store. its sudden silence among a lot of music and dialogue, so i paid attention. the fish in charge of the sushi shop is frustrated and throws the knife on the wooden sushi preparing table. so i guess i basically assumed then than cannibalism was just a reality in this grotesque colorful fish world... or maybe not, since the joke was that nobody went to the sushi shop. but there was a fish, not a shark, selling sushi. is cannibalism allowed here, between fishes, but not socially acceptable unless youre a shark? does the sushi selling fish eat fish? was the sushi place catered to sharks but theyre just not big on japanese food? these are the questions that shall go unanswered
Good point about that sushi shop moment. I did immediately found that a bit funny on the first viewing when I was younger, but now revisiting this movie and scene kind of just left you feel a bit perplexed .
Lazy story writing. It's the old "Predators are evil because they eat meat" issue which always runs into problems when you have anthropomorphized animal characters lol
Shark Tale is a banger of a movie, it’s got the mafia, 70s music, and Will Smith. Maybe it isn’t award material but I loved movies like this one, Over the Hedge, and the Bee Movie as a kid. It may be trash but it’s nostalgic trash lol
Fuck me, the thought of the Lola x blowfish ship has me almost in tears. I can FEEL the scene where she gives him any form of honest validation, and he just fucking puffs up out of embarrassment - I'm dying at the "...Physical... Chemistry" bit. Don't acknowledge the sexy fish. Don't acknowledge the sexy fish. Don't acknowledge the sexy fish.
Hey, it's me, Will Smith! You all know Will Smith right? Mind if I just do my Will Smith act for two hours instead of getting into character? Your parents love it!
Will Smith's job is now as an actor who plays the character of Will Smith 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. The same with so many of these other A-list celebrities.
@@brain_apostrophe_t the irony is that I was a vegetarian around the same time, and that somehow made me a *lesbian* I'm a woman, just using my partner's account. Weird middle school memory....
Shark tale was lit as fuck, the two jelly fish smoked kelp and sharks thought they were fancy as fuck. This movie made you feel and laugh, and had a decent cast to boot
The characters models in this movie bother me so much, because they're fish but they're also made to look like the actor who voiced them and it's just so jarring.
I like how in Shrek, there’s a certain quality to the characters where some of the vibe of the actor shines through even though no one part of it is identical. IDK, maybe just down to something as simple as face expression. The problem with Sharktale is that rather than being a “what if” incarnation of the actor’s stage presence, it’s instead a caricature of their physical appearance.
It's actually pretty ok for early 2000's CGI. If you want to see some really dated animation from that era, look at Jimmy Neutron, Ice Age, Hoodwinked, Final Fantasy film, Shrek 1, Chicken Little or Barnyard. This one and Robots are some of the only ones that mostly hold up, outside of Pixar.
Noah Arce for a while so many animation studios tried to go for realism in their stylization and the technology just wasn’t good enough at the time for it to do anything justice so it pushed the style too far into the uncanny valley. A lot of animation from the early 2000s did not age well. I’m noticing style swinging back to a more cartoonish style now. I do remember a lot of these movies being acclaimed for their animation at the time tho, it just didn’t age well.
I liked it too, but it's probably because they talked about food a lot so I just got hungry, and I was like "yeah food is nice, I feel harmony when thinking about food"
9:50 Shark Tale? More like Shark Fail! *Look of self hatred washes over Joel’s face* These are the new benefits of switching to a talk to the camera format.
This is why I dont like angry critics who just yell over footage *cough cough enter cough* I got to actually understand his mood and stands. He did voice his view of the situation and looked into a whole new light the movies reflect rather than going "DURR NEGATIVE TRAIT IS BAD MORAL REEE"
PooDoo DrillDick i’m so used to watching big joel now that when i see someone else’s review/essay who is just ranting (and it’s not even comical) i can’t sit through it. especially when it’s about children’s content :/ like calm down buddy...it Can be that serious without being That Serious , y’know. thanks Big Joel for giving us quality content my cardiologist won’t ban me from watching 👌🏾
I always found it funny the overall story and feeling of shark tale wasn't a kids movie its a mafia esque movie this nobody takes credit for offing the heads son who's killed many times in the neighborhood and teams with the dons son who is ashamed for being gay to escape and help each other as this nobody now gains power that corrupts
I loved it as a kid and I never thought of Lenny as gay I just thought of him as a weak shark that doesn't impress his dad but I guess he could be gay but I don't think so
Imagine if this film was about humans, where the rich upper class-men murdered and ate the poor- and this was such as natural element of the world that it isn't even tackled in the plot and instead the plot focused on getting the cannibal mafia to accept his non-cannibal son, it'd suddenly be so, so dark.
The guy next to him in 2004 but Disney Pixar is going to release this fish kid film so we need to get on that trend. This guy ok um what if the mob where sharks and intend of a car wash it was a whale wash.
Your I see it now. Look at the cookie monster how keeps consuming never satisfied. Look at the count always counting never satisfied. The world is Elmo in the same way Elmo is the world. All I can say is I am a blind man who can now see. You have opened my eyes thank you.
@@josen7941 a silver-tongue can extrapolate anything from the tiniest detail. that's why religious texts are so effective. sometimes, the curtains are blue, just because the author wanted them to be blue and nothing more.
Sharktale, Over the Headge, and Bee Movie... I actually liked those movies. The writing is strange. I just realized, but for some reason I enjoyed them as a kid.
They were all original, ya gotta admit. The standards for animated movies were set by Disney, that's why people were divided over these movies. I loved them tho lol
@@Deg40000 Sounds like a confusing analogy to compare a food preference to sexuality. Especially since Lenny is presented as the only vegetarian in his community. Also, what about fish that can only eat plants? Are they an analogy to homosexuals as well? Or is it different because Lenny is a shark? Also, how old is Lenny? Why does Lenny never have any aspirations to seek out other vegetarian sharks? You’d think that’d get a passing mention. Imagine writing that analogy and thinking “yeah, he’ll be the only vegetarian in the whole movie, and his family will hate him for it.” But I guess it is for kids, so having him struggle with being gay would’ve been really controversial.
🗿is the worst emoji ever. It makes my blood boil. Emojis are supposed to express emotion, but what emotion does 🗿 express? “Oh today I just feel like a massive fucking stone.” It’s awful, I hate it.
@@serioussaitama4071 that's exactly how I feel about 👹👺 like WTF does that mean? How am I supposed to use this. And btw just use the 🗿 emoji to troll trust me it's fun.
When I was a kid my dad had to do some work at a car dealership, so he brought me there and sat me in the kids “play room” for around 4 hours. There were workers all around and I was being watched so I was safe, but Shark Tale was being played on repeat in the room. Consider me scarred for life after two watches in a row. I had already seen the movie before, and figured movies were fun, but this movie actually made me nauseous and sad. Anyways, thanks for triggering me.
My movie of despair that I had to watch over and over and over again was Robots. I can't even look at the cover without remembering having to watch it back to back many times made me want to throw up.
I think Shark Tales is a hilarious movie. IDK know if it has a good moral. I think it's just a mad cap dark comedy . Jack Black as a gay shark who wants to be a dolphin, Deniro as a goodfella shark, The Fresh Prince fish and the scene with the shrimp begging for his life is so funny. It's like a Loony Tunes it's absurdist.
Using sharks as oppressors is discrimination. Dolphins ram the belly of a shark to knock it out and results in death of the shark in most cases. The shark son has a hidden predatory issue!
After watching this, I now would really like to see a film about intelligent carnivores, that cannot live on a herbivorous diet, but whose only source of food is also intelligent. The Carnivores are aware that their food is intelligent, and sometimes even form bonds with their prey. Just a film looking at the behaviour and relationships that would form in that sort of society.
That probably exists, but there's way too much 00's vampire shlock you'd have to shift through to find it. The closest I know of is the place in Buffy where people could get their blood sucked for cheap thrills, but good vamps mainly just got blood bags from the butcher shop.
No matter how often, how eloquently, and how factually people explain to me that "Sharktales" "Over the Hedge" "Flushed Away" "Madagascar" "Monsters vs. Aliens" and "Bee Movie" are objectively bad movies.... I seriously cannot stop liking them. Dreamworks is oddly amazing at creating good, bad movies. They definitely have just straight up bad movies, but the same goes for the good ones. They actually have several of my most favorite movies growing up that I still adore today. "Kung Fu Panda 1-2" "Shrek 1-2" (meme or not they're good movies) "The Prince of Egypt" and "Joseph King of Dreams" (I'm not religious, they're good stories) "Chicken Run" "Sinbad" "Megamind" "Spirit" "How to Train your Dragon 1-2" (I haven't seen the 3rd yet, but I def plan to) Dreamworks was created just to spite Pixar, and honestly? I like their movies more.
Kifi Roserette I had "Dreamworks movies" open in google when I was listing them, to be sure I was talking about the right ones. I checked the wiki on those two movies, and both Aardman studios and Dreamworks are listed. With Dreamworks being a distributor for Chicken Run.
I get it, looking back I can see why all these movies are bad in some ways but I still love them, especially Over the Hedge and Monsters vs Aliens. I don’t really even care as they make me happy and made my six year old self into the movie lover I am today.
He says that line as the perspective he had as a child watching Shark Tale. If he was a kid watching trash era Dreamworks movies when they were released, that means he possibly could not have even seen The Prince of Egypt yet at the time, because it's a more obscure traditionally animated film than the Disney ones and that one would have been released when he was an infant. Also, I felt the same way when I saw Shark Tale in the theatres as a kid.
Listen, in a way shark tale was ahead of its time. Imagine if shark tale was made in the gay rights/social media/Instagram flexing era. Oscar is what many “influencers” are. A fraud broadly advertising a lifestyle most can’t have and that they don’t truly have. I think the intertwining of hip hop culture made the film quickly dated and that makes us feel less relatable. I do believe with a little more time and care this film could have become a classic, but I’m pretty sure the studio was just rushing to put out films they thought would sell tickets
Claystead yes but keep in mind it did come out 10 years before ss marriage was legal. Also being gay was treated more as a joke than than taken seriously. I think had Shark Tale come out later with more time put into and writers who really loved the characters, the story would have been written with care while still being funny.
But the fact that Jablinski Games character (Lenny) is vegetarian is actually a stereotypical metaphor of homosexuality, so it kinda gay rights in the movie
It's weird that when you are a kid, obviously you more than likely enjoy and love anything animated thrown at your face. It was the case for me at least. But even as a kid, no matter how entertained you were during a movie, there was something that made you rank them. That you knew some movies were "better" than others. Even a child can feel basically any Disney sequel to be worse than the original ones, and when it came to DreamWorks we all knew in our kiddy brains that Shark Tale, Over the Hedge etc. were not as "good" as Shrek or Road to ElDorado or the Prince of Egypt. Not saying the movies cannot be enjoyable, because I for sure liked to watch Shark Tale if someone suggested it, but there is that somewhat "trashy" feeling about some movies even a child cannot deny. True story.
iRinnda: That‘s why I disagree that kids love „anything animated thrown at their faces“. Even kids have a taste. I never watched Shark Tale, Over the Hedge or Flushed Away because these movies already seemed stupid and like cheap rip-offs in the trailers. I watched Bee Movie and thought it was really terrible because the „message“ in it was really questionable to me. I never even heard of the Road to El Dorado movie you mentioned and I don‘t even know what it is. I didn‘t watch Prince of Egypt because it is religious propaganda. But yes, Shrek was funny. To be fair I wasn‘t really a chils when these movies came out but a preteen/teen. I think I was about 16 when „Finding Nemo“ came out which was a good movie.
A+ for the bit about the Disney sequels. Even as an elementary school kid I knew that shit was as good as mustard on watermelon and boiled artichokes. Especially the Cinderella sequels, number three being the absolute most offensive. Honorable mention: Pocahontas 2 - trash. The only good sequel from Disney was Lion King 1.5.
Denise Nova Lol that’s not the message of the movie and Big Joel doesn’t think like that either. Barry still lives with humans and fights for civil rights of other animals. Bees aren’t being exploited anymore, they sell their honey instead of it being forcefully taken away. Revolution was a good thing, only honey being exclusively for bees was seen as bad.
Max Garza My thoughts on these three films exactly! I could maybe even do a chronological marathon of reviewing DreamWorks Animation films to elaborate on why!
suggestion: instead of a sharktale script doctor choosing either to focus on a critique of social hierarchy OR a learn-to-accept-your-situation story, Oscar changes society so that this very necessary job of whale-washing gets the respect it deserves.
I haven't watched it in years but yeah, I liked it as a kid. And seeing as how I don't think badly of it (which I do for movies like Flushed Away) I'm sure if I watched it again I would still like it.
i really enjoyed all 3 of the “trash era movies” as a kid....i mean REALLY enjoyed. i became super interested in bees and beekeeping after seeing the bee movie, i LOVED the over the hedge score and i found shark tale really fun. i would put the fond memories i have of these films down to nostalgia or just being a dumb kid at the time but ive rewatched both over the hedge and the bee movie in the last couple years and i gotta say....i think theyre still really fun, though not without their faults they have special places in my heart. not sure about shark tale though. i havent seen it since i was about 7 and the animation looks cursed
just clicked but i really hope you discuss the strange, creepy sexualization of the female fish in this movie, because it has haunted me ever since i was a boy
This is why I’m glad my parents let me watch the stripshow scene in Great Mouse Detective. If I’m gonna’ have a conflicted sexual identity, at least it’s one that has a good grasp on animation design fundamentals.
@@samwallaceart288 I have said it before and I'll say it again, the Walt Disney company is single-handedly responsible for the creation of more furries than any other person or group. Not one myself, but growing up getting some very strange feelings from anthropomorized female animals, I do understand it.
@@scaper8 Not just flurries, a truly disturbing amount of fetishes have spawned from the Disney brand. Not that I'm... speaking... from experience... or something...
When dreamworks does there own thing, they make good art, but whenever they try to piggyback on Pixar’s ideas so they can reap some of Pixar’s money they don’t make good art. How to train your dragon, rise of the guardians, Kung fu panda, and Madagascar to me at least was good art.
I mean, you're someone who can have "cabbage scented candle" as their user name and not vomit in their mouth every time they have to conceive of such a thing, so this comment checks out.
I think it's tricky to place the movie's social class-message, because it is clearly making allusions to the natural food chain, and at the same time social social conduct. From a biological/ecological point of view, sharks are just doing their thing by eating the fish: what's more, the ocean needs them to be predators, so it's not evil from them to eat shrimp, fish and such. But from a social point of view, sharks are being more like predatory upper-class mafia, who take advantage of others, when there are other ways for them to survive without abusing their power. I get what they're trying to say, but ultimately, the movie forgets that sharks are sharks, and the whole moral at the ending is confusing when you think of it.
Why has there not been a good quality analysis of Road to El Dorado focusing on its heavy anti-religious subtext? Like I love Lindsay Ellis but she dismissed the film entirely based on a really off base reading of its summary that doesn't capture the fact that El Doradan characters in the film are clearly depicted as using the stupid, selfish Europeans (the Chief mentions that he knows they're human and at the first feast in their honor has to ask everyone to pretend that they give a shit so that he can use their favor to push out the High Priest), that the stupid selfish Europeans are the reason they're at risk from Cortez, and the only way that Cortez even has a chance is because of the political divide between the city. Like people who dismiss it as an inaccurate depiction of Aztec culture despite the fact that it's literally a mythical location that's not Aztec or Mayan or described as such. The movie was one of the only kids movies I've seen that discussed colonization by dehumanizing the colonizing force and bringing up slavery and genocide (Cortez is literally compared to a capricious demon sent to rid the world of humanity). But most importantly everyone seems to miss that the High Priest does not act or think about sacrifice in anyway similar to real Aztec beliefs because he is explicitly compared to Christian views on original sin. He wants the gods to purge the streets of humanity, who he views as filthy by their very being. He is very specifically linked to Cortez and his last minute realization about Cortez is not depicted as the goofy native falling for white bois again--this is truly what he was waiting for. This is his god of death sent to purge his city for a thousand years.
@@ansvangasse7644 also I forgot to include it but in the film, Miguel's willingness to not financially exploit El Dorado is only due to his desire to emotionally and socially exploit the natives to fill in his own desire for worship and meaning. He wants to be treated like a hero, and both he and Tulio have to sacrifice their attempts to exploit the locals in order to actually help the people they have endangered. Miguel learns that colonialism and indigenous people are not adventures for his Western wanderlust, tulio learns that sex is better than money, they both learn that friendship is the true adventure in life. El TiVo learns nothing because he was perfect to begin with
@@caetanosilveira153 you should really do a video about The Road to El Dorado you have some really good theories that would def be interesting to explore further. I at least would be really interested in watching you interpret the movie through specifically the settler/colonizer lens and given the popularity of these type of disney film critique videos I bet a lot of other people would too.
Although Shark Tale is trash for having sexist stereotypes, uninspired animation and a mean-spirited execution of the scenes, a couple of the (highly) redeemable aspects of it (although it only elevates it to a joke of animation to half-trash) had to be the shrimp (design-wise, voice-wise AND backstory-wise) and the old-school bops like Got to Be Real, Good Foot, Car Wash, Lies & Rumors and more.
I went into a shark tale rabbithole after watching Schaffrilllas video. That was a couple months ago, and I never got this video recommended. Not until just now, after watching Kevin's recent video... that was about Minecraft. Lol
Corekt, she thinks, it's her faith to marry the prince. Farquad thinks, it's his faith to become a king. And Shrek thinks, it's his faith to be the monster. So it's more like a faith triangle. I guess the point is: F**k faith.
Funny that you keep mentioning the shrimp scene. I remember in the commentary that a writer said they wanted to reveal the shrimp's story was just a lie. Having him lie about that really would seem to backtrack the essentialism message and make it even more confusing
Shark Tale might be one of the most important movies I saw as a child, because it was literally the first time as a kid that I came out of the movie theater and thought, umprompted, "Wow, that was a really bad movie."
I often wondered how the hell did Dreamworks went from making "The Prince of Egypt", "The Road to El Dorado", and "Sinbad" to.....these kinds of movies???
alicia nong iirc neither el dorado nor sinbad did well at the box office. Shrek, however, was a smash hit. Dreamworks is, at the end of the day, a business with the goal of making as much money as possible.
So let me get this straight. Your wondering how dreamworks went from making good movies to MASTAPEECES LIKE SHARK TALES BABY WHEN WE GETTING A SEQUEL BOYS
If you like Big Joel, you might enjoy Jack Saint, another leftie media critique youtuber who often uses seemingly innocuous pop culture stuff to jumpstart discussion of bunch of interesting stuff. He's more explicitly political than Big Joel though. Here's a good video talking about Race Allegories in stuff like Zootopia ua-cam.com/video/7oR6iET6FVo/v-deo.html
@Tom one. You don't have to reply but, could you explain how it was cheesy? Seriously. I still think it's a good movie with a serious narrative. I'd like to hear your perspective on it. (:
it was a great movie. me n my bro watched it together at night in our room after we came home with lots a nice junk food from the shop. which was a greater experience since the movie was all about food. lol
hah, it’s the second time this month one of my favorite youtubers has covered this movie. thank god, my childhood trauma about sexy fish is going to rest.
I think you've misread the end of Oscar's arc. His problem wasn't just an inability to accept his place in life, it was society that caused that inability. He was the lowest of the social hierarchy so even if he accepted his own job, society still told him he was garbage.
That doesn't make much sense as a reading. Nothing about society, at least with regard to this issue, meaningfully changes from the beginning of the movie to the end. And yet the ending is a happy one regardless. The main characters in the present day who pose Oscar's position as garbage are Lola and Sykes. How do either of these characters really change? I don't think they do. No, the happy ending comes from Oscar learning self acceptance, not from dealing with any societal ill.
The main thing I remember about Shrek is it has this very subversive edge to it, regarding unpicking all the phoneyness that comes along with Disney's schtick.... and then hugely undermines it by stopping every now and again to go "ha ha, Farqaard is a dwarf" - if they wanted to go for the whole vanity angle they seemed to be aiming for, they could have made him an inch shorter than six feet tall.... but he says to everybody that he's six feet tall and has anyone correcting him beheaded. Really great video, by the way. I loved it. Earned a subscriber here!
Huh. That's an interesting idea. Farquaad is supposed to be a dick joke, but I always figured that he was supposed to be symbolic of Disney/the status quo's internal insecurity, which expresses itself in the desire to "perfect" the world around it. A smarter movie would have pointed out that Farquaad is a "freak" too for being that short (perhaps he's part Dwarf and thus a fairytale creature himself) but "Shrek" just went for the dick joke.
I think the sequel greatly improved on the concept by making prince charming the villain in addition to sending up Hollywood celebrity culture alongside Disney.
I remembering liking this when I was a kid too but that may have been it was one of the few kid's dvds we had so I would re watch it over and over till I would learn to like it.
I still do it's hilarious. We except so many other genres as just comedy. Why do animated kids movies have a good moral. It's like a sitcom or Bugs Bunny.
Repeat after me: Shark Tale is glory. Over the Hedge is love. The Bee Movie is life. I will not talk about these gods as anything less than the aforementioned. No ifs ands or buts. :)
I prefer the term 'Garb-Age' over 'Trash Era' myself.
WOW
My god that's beautiful
/wooosh
Who's garb?
/wooosh
Who's garb?
@@justbny9278 that moment when you woooosh yourself lmao
"Should we make Will Smith a fish or a person?"
"Yes."
I was gonna like this comment til I realized it's on 666 sorry cant be 667
chloe bernard will will fish fish will fish? Yes, will fish will fish will fish
Will Smish
Krill Smith eks dee
"Should we make Will Smith a bird or a person?"
"Yes"
Ugh. Shark tale. I worked at Office Depot when that movie came out on dvd, and they played that damn movie all day on a loop, every day, for about a month, I worked the tech section and it was a slow store, so I watched this movie roughly about 200 times.
im so sorry, that must have been agonizing
"There's WHALE POOP... and THEN there's you"
I remember watching about 45 mins of it until I couldn't take it anymore. I feel for you.
OOOF.
God. I feel sorry for you my dude
I’m late to the party but I believe when Oscar says “We cool?” and the shark boss says “We cool.”, the shark is just saying that Oscar’s city is cool. We can safely assume there are other cities for the sharks to plunder.
The ending really doesn't show any signs of friendship between them. They just had a truce, that's it. Oscar did took credit for his son's death after all.
Definitely this.
Oscar claimed to have killed his kid. That's why he asks if they are cool as the shark don was trying to kill him in revenge.
@@rayronnyd4659 yeah but he asks if "_we_ can walk the streets" now, implying that fish in general don't have to fear the sharks, and the dance montage shows sharks having fun hanging out with various fish. The implication is that they're friends now, which sort of just doesn't make sense.
@@yoelazar3935 Oscar is the villain of the movie. Exactly.
"is it shrek o'clock?"
Joel. It's _always_ shrek o'clock.
Your2ndPlanB The Shrek o’clock has to be pizza time sometimes though
Pizza Shrek?
"I spread my -buttcheaks- buttcheeks for Shrek"
Shrek o’clock is never ogre
@@Crispman_777 That word is spelled B U T T C H E E K S.
I used to watch shark tale religiously
Dany didn’t we all
nostalgic childhood memories... i probably only saw shark tale twice. i don't have any nostalgic memory of it. i watched it as a kid when it were a knew movie out on dvd. our mom brought it home. the mindset, experience, and perception of life at the time you were watching a movie could also possibly effect your memory of it. like for example, as a kid, the ben 10 movie was awesome. but if you were to think of it today as you've grown up, you know it's ultimately designed to entertain kids.
Same
Same
Dany If you like it, then like it. If a UA-camr tells you not to like it, keep liking it
As someone who's spent a lot of time studying the lore of Shark Tale, I have to commend this video
Tell Schaffrillas hes never going to comment in this channel again
Schafrillas! I Love you. You are hilarious
Notice me senpi
Schaffrillas Productions I didn’t even know that was a thing lol
I love your videos. I watched that Shiny masterpiece and couldn't stop laughing
"I've always shipped her with the Martin Scorsese puffer fish. I think they'd have some great emotional, but more importantly physical chemistry"
Joel how could you ever utter something so completely cursed
i know
i pray to zeus he was kidding
You just know internet rule means someone has or will draw/animate that...
The Scorsese puffer fish actual name is puff daddy
@@crossmckinney3017 thank you for adding the only useful additional information
But.... But.... But he's right....
No one ever talks about the movie "Robots" ;-;
YEEEESSS
*now THAT is Childhood Memories*
Such beautiful memories
Oh my GOD thanks for the reminder!
The animation was amazing in that movie!
my only two memories of this movie is the 70s soundtrack which i really enjoyed as a child and, more importantly, a joke that i barely understood on first viewing: theres a quick montage of everyday life in the fish city, and theres a brief moment inside a sushi store. its sudden silence among a lot of music and dialogue, so i paid attention. the fish in charge of the sushi shop is frustrated and throws the knife on the wooden sushi preparing table. so i guess i basically assumed then than cannibalism was just a reality in this grotesque colorful fish world... or maybe not, since the joke was that nobody went to the sushi shop. but there was a fish, not a shark, selling sushi. is cannibalism allowed here, between fishes, but not socially acceptable unless youre a shark? does the sushi selling fish eat fish? was the sushi place catered to sharks but theyre just not big on japanese food? these are the questions that shall go unanswered
God, i'm glad i wasn't the only perplexed by this.
This is on par with the line about about The Alamo from Bright as far as throwaway jokes that keep me awake at night go.
Shit i remember that scene. Never understood it. Now Im laughing
Good point about that sushi shop moment. I did immediately found that a bit funny on the first viewing when I was younger, but now revisiting this movie and scene kind of just left you feel a bit perplexed .
Lazy story writing.
It's the old "Predators are evil because they eat meat" issue which always runs into problems when you have anthropomorphized animal characters lol
Shark Tale is a banger of a movie, it’s got the mafia, 70s music, and Will Smith. Maybe it isn’t award material but I loved movies like this one, Over the Hedge, and the Bee Movie as a kid. It may be trash but it’s nostalgic trash lol
100% agree lol this shit was flame
Fuck yeah
That's big facts
SO true tho, kids these don't know😂😂😂😂
The over the hedge game was lit
Fuck me, the thought of the Lola x blowfish ship has me almost in tears. I can FEEL the scene where she gives him any form of honest validation, and he just fucking puffs up out of embarrassment - I'm dying at the "...Physical... Chemistry" bit.
Don't acknowledge the sexy fish. Don't acknowledge the sexy fish. Don't acknowledge the sexy fish.
Believe it or not, you are spot on about Sykes and Lola having chemistry because originally she was created to be his gold digging girlfriend.
Where'd you hear that?
LORE
I honestly hunger for the days when characters in animated movies were voiced by actual voice actors rather than Hollywood celebrities.
Hey, it's me, Will Smith! You all know Will Smith right? Mind if I just do my Will Smith act for two hours instead of getting into character? Your parents love it!
I love how he pretty much just stopped acting in movies to work on his UA-cam channel.
Will Smith's job is now as an actor who plays the character of Will Smith 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. The same with so many of these other A-list celebrities.
And now he’s coming full circle playing the genie in Aladdin, the role which arguably started the celebrity voice actor being a regular thing.
Watch animated films in latin spanish with the subtitles on. I assure you you'll love it
watching this after pragerU and it's really funny hearing the same serious concerned and measured voice discussing a movie about will smith the fish
PragerU taught me pee is stored in the balls
@@kanaka118446 wait it is? Crazy 😦😧
It's funny because you'll also learn a lot more watching this than from anything made by pragerU
@@1TW1-m5i I believe OP was referring to Big Joel's video on PragerU, not PragerU content itself
I never realized how much LGBT undertones this movie has.
DW Producer: "make it gay"
Scriptwriter in 2004, interpretting "gay" as another word for "bad": Got It!
@@brain_apostrophe_t the irony is that I was a vegetarian around the same time, and that somehow made me a *lesbian*
I'm a woman, just using my partner's account. Weird middle school memory....
@person person it’s not what made me a lesbian personally but I will attest that it’s still valid
Sebastian the whale washing dolphin ...
Actually lots of DreamWorks movies
i don’t know if my brain just switches off when i watch movies or if i’m just attracted to the bright flashy colours but i liked shark tale
Yea, same.
Shark tale was lit as fuck, the two jelly fish smoked kelp and sharks thought they were fancy as fuck. This movie made you feel and laugh, and had a decent cast to boot
It was funny too me 😂
It’s my fav movie ever
liking or disliking a movie is ok either way... he is just analysing the movie.. he is not saying it is a shit movie that you should'nt like.
I never put 2 and 2 together and realized that the reason I hated Oscar’s face so much is because it’s a weirdly stylized Will Smith face
who thought making a black coded fish was a good idea? with those big ass lips, crisp hairline and colors that makes his body look like a sneaker
@@xxxtictacion756 yeah his design is just terrible
The characters models in this movie bother me so much, because they're fish but they're also made to look like the actor who voiced them and it's just so jarring.
I like how in Shrek, there’s a certain quality to the characters where some of the vibe of the actor shines through even though no one part of it is identical. IDK, maybe just down to something as simple as face expression. The problem with Sharktale is that rather than being a “what if” incarnation of the actor’s stage presence, it’s instead a caricature of their physical appearance.
@@samwallaceart288 yeah true.
and it’s so ugly
@Praise the Sun this is a concern I have had ever since I first saw the movie which was years ago
they look ugly on the posters, but when I saw the movie itself, they looked nothing like their poster appearances.
This film's animation is terrifying.
It's actually pretty ok for early 2000's CGI. If you want to see some really dated animation from that era, look at Jimmy Neutron, Ice Age, Hoodwinked, Final Fantasy film, Shrek 1, Chicken Little or Barnyard. This one and Robots are some of the only ones that mostly hold up, outside of Pixar.
Noah Arce for a while so many animation studios tried to go for realism in their stylization and the technology just wasn’t good enough at the time for it to do anything justice so it pushed the style too far into the uncanny valley. A lot of animation from the early 2000s did not age well. I’m noticing style swinging back to a more cartoonish style now. I do remember a lot of these movies being acclaimed for their animation at the time tho, it just didn’t age well.
@@yoelazar3935 chicken little still holds up though because its genuinely funny and touching. (well last time I watched it)
It's the human faces and teeth on the fish. Ugh 😓
Yoel Azar I know it’s actually pretty good for like the 2000s
Wait, I really liked over the hedge as a kid. I dont remember why, but I just really liked it???
IvettaB same
IvettaB it was a good movie
Probably because of the Ben Folds soundtrack, super good
I liked it too, but it's probably because they talked about food a lot so I just got hungry, and I was like "yeah food is nice, I feel harmony when thinking about food"
Sorry, ur a furry now 😔
you're going so fast with the political subtext of mediocre kids movies, pls don't talk about robots (2005) before i can
wow. Robots was a thing...that existed...it was deep in my subconscious.
it made me a communist
Robots is great and I'll fight anyone who says otherwise
Too late. Karsten Runquist already -lost his mind- tackled that one.
Karsten's video was mostly a joke though and not a serious analysis of the movie.
9:50
Shark Tale?
More like Shark Fail!
*Look of self hatred washes over Joel’s face*
These are the new benefits of switching to a talk to the camera format.
drisk101 the loathing was so strong i got worried he would do something rash there for a second djdhdjdhd
THAT IS AN ACTUAL MOOD THO
This is why I dont like angry critics who just yell over footage *cough cough enter cough*
I got to actually understand his mood and stands. He did voice his view of the situation and looked into a whole new light the movies reflect rather than going "DURR NEGATIVE TRAIT IS BAD MORAL REEE"
PooDoo DrillDick i’m so used to watching big joel now that when i see someone else’s review/essay who is just ranting (and it’s not even comical) i can’t sit through it. especially when it’s about children’s content :/ like calm down buddy...it Can be that serious without being That Serious , y’know. thanks Big Joel for giving us quality content my cardiologist won’t ban me from watching 👌🏾
Self hatred is his default state.
I always found it funny the overall story and feeling of shark tale wasn't a kids movie its a mafia esque movie this nobody takes credit for offing the heads son who's killed many times in the neighborhood and teams with the dons son who is ashamed for being gay to escape and help each other as this nobody now gains power that corrupts
I agree
Which make me wonder why they didn’t go live action, I ocean setting didn’t really bring anything to use
I feel the same way about Antz.
"Quit bitchin' about it."
Actual line from the movie.
I loved it as a kid and I never thought of Lenny as gay I just thought of him as a weak shark that doesn't impress his dad but I guess he could be gay but I don't think so
@@spinozilla2421 cause that would be a garbage movie the ocean setting literally made the movie
Gill Smith
Drax B To have that good pun. But that makes ya wonder WhY nOT FisH tALe?
I think it’s coz shark sounds like shrek
Drax B it is about a shark doe
"Yes."
Because Oscar tells a "Tale" about a shark (a lie) and it sets the theme... Shark Tale is a about a lie
Imagine if this film was about humans, where the rich upper class-men murdered and ate the poor- and this was such as natural element of the world that it isn't even tackled in the plot and instead the plot focused on getting the cannibal mafia to accept his non-cannibal son, it'd suddenly be so, so dark.
Ikr. He suddenly made the story of this film awesome.
Now talk about attack on titan
Tobias Reilly I would have preferred this
i wanna watch it
The guy next to him in 2004 but Disney Pixar is going to release this fish kid film so we need to get on that trend.
This guy ok um what if the mob where sharks and intend of a car wash it was a whale wash.
*this Sharktale vid is part of a 3 part series* ｏｈ ｎｏ
*...about different Dreamworks movies* ｏｋａｙ
*namely, this, Over the Hedge, and Bee Movie.* ｆｕｃｋ
_ω ε l l f υ ς κ_
Oh Yeah, Oh Yeaaaaaah (oh Noo)
@@omarsabir1210 Ok, can I *PLEASE* ask everyone in this courtroom to stop saying "Oh no!?" Cuz the fuckin KoolAid guys gonna *keep* showin up!
*The bee movie was the best anime movie ever made*
You know an animated film that takes this same concept and does it not only better, but is itself a masterpiece?
Fantastic Mr. Fox.
omg you're so right...
Dude you could make elmo sound like a deep commentary of society
tkoc potatoe how do you know it's not
Your I see it now. Look at the cookie monster how keeps consuming never satisfied. Look at the count always counting never satisfied. The world is Elmo in the same way Elmo is the world. All I can say is I am a blind man who can now see. You have opened my eyes thank you.
@@josen7941 a silver-tongue can extrapolate anything from the tiniest detail. that's why religious texts are so effective. sometimes, the curtains are blue, just because the author wanted them to be blue and nothing more.
@@inkblot5497 But hey, in the words of Hbomberguy, "Fuck you just fuck you it's supported by the text and yOU CAN'T STOP M-"
In all seriousness, every character on Sesame Street represents a major psychological disorder.
Hey I meant Michael and not Will Eisner. Try to have a good day even knowing I flubbed
Big Joel unacceptable
Are you related to Super Bunny Hop? You look and talk and move so similarly, and both of you have great channels with good in depth videos.
Ah well
Too late, my day is irrevocably ruined. Thanks a lot.
I learned who Will Eisner is, so thanks!
Sharktale, Over the Headge, and Bee Movie... I actually liked those movies.
The writing is strange. I just realized, but for some reason I enjoyed them as a kid.
Same
Espeon804 I liked Over the Hedge, but not the other 2.
They were all original, ya gotta admit. The standards for animated movies were set by Disney, that's why people were divided over these movies. I loved them tho lol
I LOVED Over the Headge and Bee as a kid, otherwise I never liked Sharktale lmao
I honestly enjoyed them more than disney, the weird and trash sides made them(to me) more natural and funny to watch
Since I was a kid I've always thought that Lenny was gay instead of a vegetarian. Like queerbating.
I'm not going to lie I did too but I think him being a vegetarian was a analogy to him being gay.
@@Deg40000 Sounds like a confusing analogy to compare a food preference to sexuality. Especially since Lenny is presented as the only vegetarian in his community. Also, what about fish that can only eat plants? Are they an analogy to homosexuals as well? Or is it different because Lenny is a shark? Also, how old is Lenny? Why does Lenny never have any aspirations to seek out other vegetarian sharks? You’d think that’d get a passing mention. Imagine writing that analogy and thinking “yeah, he’ll be the only vegetarian in the whole movie, and his family will hate him for it.” But I guess it is for kids, so having him struggle with being gay would’ve been really controversial.
🗿is the worst emoji ever. It makes my blood boil. Emojis are supposed to express emotion, but what emotion does 🗿 express? “Oh today I just feel like a massive fucking stone.” It’s awful, I hate it.
@@serioussaitama4071 that's exactly how I feel about 👹👺 like WTF does that mean? How am I supposed to use this. And btw just use the 🗿 emoji to troll trust me it's fun.
@@serioussaitama4071 Beastars in a nutshell
When I was a kid my dad had to do some work at a car dealership, so he brought me there and sat me in the kids “play room” for around 4 hours. There were workers all around and I was being watched so I was safe, but Shark Tale was being played on repeat in the room. Consider me scarred for life after two watches in a row. I had already seen the movie before, and figured movies were fun, but this movie actually made me nauseous and sad. Anyways, thanks for triggering me.
Was your dad a tongue scrubber?
Same with me, but with Turner and hooch and it was 8 hours
Smeetheens no they dont do that at a car dealership
My movie of despair that I had to watch over and over and over again was Robots. I can't even look at the cover without remembering having to watch it back to back many times made me want to throw up.
@@viano9541 You never can know
I think Shark Tales is a hilarious movie. IDK know if it has a good moral. I think it's just a mad cap dark comedy . Jack Black as a gay shark who wants to be a dolphin, Deniro as a goodfella shark, The Fresh Prince fish and the scene with the shrimp begging for his life is so funny. It's like a Loony Tunes it's absurdist.
How the fuck did I not realise Jack Black was in this movie, wtf
I agree! It's a rly movie. UA-camrs nowadays will criticize anything just 'cause they can record any shit and post for views.
Whoa didnt know that was jack black
Using sharks as oppressors is discrimination. Dolphins ram the belly of a shark to knock it out and results in death of the shark in most cases. The shark son has a hidden predatory issue!
@@yourneighbour5738 yeah I seen that on an episode of Flipper.
* Hears Bee Movie *
* Inhales *
**YA LIKE JAZZ?**
Dude that is like so epic and Haha funny meme lol haha.
8 bit degenerate okay there buzzkill
@@free_siobhan dude, I just like his epic me me, it is so funny and for the win.
*He did it so fast, It's Just....*
*UnBEElievable!! *Seinfeld Theme plays**
@@free_siobhan dang, you're anti epic gamer meme win
Wreck it Ralph is just video game Shrek.
Vanellope sort of resembles Donkey
@@tinyluchino2626 donkey is not as sexy as she is
@@bigbawlzlebowski8886 she’s a child! 😒😠
@@bigbawlzlebowski8886 what in the actual fuck
@@bigbawlzlebowski8886 uh hey FBI
After watching this, I now would really like to see a film about intelligent carnivores, that cannot live on a herbivorous diet, but whose only source of food is also intelligent. The Carnivores are aware that their food is intelligent, and sometimes even form bonds with their prey. Just a film looking at the behaviour and relationships that would form in that sort of society.
The sitcom Dinosaurs? It's on Hulu
That probably exists, but there's way too much 00's vampire shlock you'd have to shift through to find it. The closest I know of is the place in Buffy where people could get their blood sucked for cheap thrills, but good vamps mainly just got blood bags from the butcher shop.
Isn't that basically Tokyo ghoul?
that sounds sociopathic and morbid
That was kinda touched on in bojack horseman, though probably not in as much depth as you’re looking for bc it’s (kind of) a comedy but,,
What do you mean, this is the best anime
😆
Seriously, though, Shark Tale does feel like some animes like Naruto, School Days, Pokémon and Sonic X.
im sorry to break the bubble sir but have you heard of *cory in the house*
It is even as good as Kirby: Right back at ya!
Better anime than Fairy Tail.
No matter how often, how eloquently, and how factually people explain to me that "Sharktales" "Over the Hedge" "Flushed Away" "Madagascar" "Monsters vs. Aliens" and "Bee Movie" are objectively bad movies.... I seriously cannot stop liking them. Dreamworks is oddly amazing at creating good, bad movies. They definitely have just straight up bad movies, but the same goes for the good ones. They actually have several of my most favorite movies growing up that I still adore today. "Kung Fu Panda 1-2" "Shrek 1-2" (meme or not they're good movies) "The Prince of Egypt" and "Joseph King of Dreams" (I'm not religious, they're good stories) "Chicken Run" "Sinbad" "Megamind" "Spirit" "How to Train your Dragon 1-2" (I haven't seen the 3rd yet, but I def plan to)
Dreamworks was created just to spite Pixar, and honestly? I like their movies more.
El Dorado?
That one is pretty good as well, I didn't grow up with it so I forgot to add it.
I thought Flushed Away and Chicken Run were made by Aardman studios?
Kifi Roserette I had "Dreamworks movies" open in google when I was listing them, to be sure I was talking about the right ones. I checked the wiki on those two movies, and both Aardman studios and Dreamworks are listed. With Dreamworks being a distributor for Chicken Run.
I get it, looking back I can see why all these movies are bad in some ways but I still love them, especially Over the Hedge and Monsters vs Aliens. I don’t really even care as they make me happy and made my six year old self into the movie lover I am today.
why is elijah wood reviewing shark tale?
I thought it was Alita's brother.
why is Archduke Franz Ferdinand questioning this?
@@caityreads8070 don't u disrespect my boi franz
Franz Ferdinand has been known to be very passionate about animal movies
Franz!? I thought he was dead!
This movie is amazing 10/10, 2nd best movie in the universe right next to Sharkboy and Lavagirl
I think this comment is meant to be taken as a joke. Then again, Shark Tale is used for comedic comments.
@@kieranstark7213 it's serius 😡😡 dont joke shakrboi
Sharkboy and Lavagirl was *EVERYTHING*
"Sharkboy and Lavagirl" has a deeper subtext if you want to see it. It can also be an example of a bad 3-D movie if you want to see it that way.
The original avengers
Over the Hedge is a good movie for the slow-motion scene alone. Simply iconic
An unnamed source has informed me that the scene originally contained the song "Time in a Bottle"
Gavin Felan so that scene of xmen apocalypse with quicksilver running around was a homage to over the hedge, then?
I love Over The Hedge
Casi R. actually yeah
Over the Hedge did the Quicksilver scene first.
"Dreamworks is not the place to go for good art"
The Prince of Egypt would like a word with you, good sir...
that was a weird anomaly.
Oh I love that movie!!!
The exception that proves the rule!
Dream work is weird. Like somehow they can make hot dumpster like the “boss baby” then pump out some banger like httyd and PoE
He says that line as the perspective he had as a child watching Shark Tale. If he was a kid watching trash era Dreamworks movies when they were released, that means he possibly could not have even seen The Prince of Egypt yet at the time, because it's a more obscure traditionally animated film than the Disney ones and that one would have been released when he was an infant. Also, I felt the same way when I saw Shark Tale in the theatres as a kid.
Listen, in a way shark tale was ahead of its time. Imagine if shark tale was made in the gay rights/social media/Instagram flexing era. Oscar is what many “influencers” are. A fraud broadly advertising a lifestyle most can’t have and that they don’t truly have. I think the intertwining of hip hop culture made the film quickly dated and that makes us feel less relatable. I do believe with a little more time and care this film could have become a classic, but I’m pretty sure the studio was just rushing to put out films they thought would sell tickets
Claystead yes but keep in mind it did come out 10 years before ss marriage was legal. Also being gay was treated more as a joke than than taken seriously. I think had Shark Tale come out later with more time put into and writers who really loved the characters, the story would have been written with care while still being funny.
It'd still need the story reworked to actually deal with the themes though.
But the fact that Jablinski Games character (Lenny) is vegetarian is actually a stereotypical metaphor of homosexuality, so it kinda gay rights in the movie
Idk man the movie shows lenny's vegiteranism as a lifestyle choice which isn't very Coolio of you ask me
@@lucasmartinssaraiva1162 sooo.... shark tale said gay rights?
I can't wait until the Over The Hedge video. That movie is....so memorable, yet so forgettable. It's just so strange.
If you're drunk, it's the best movie ever. Speaking from experience.
Over the hedge is hugely nostalgic for me.
10 years and I never knew Avril Lavigne was in that
lol best way to describe it, its my favorite dreamworks movie after Shrek.
I don't remember anything that happened in that film after the raccoon knocks all the bear's food off the cliff.
It's weird that when you are a kid, obviously you more than likely enjoy and love anything animated thrown at your face. It was the case for me at least. But even as a kid, no matter how entertained you were during a movie, there was something that made you rank them. That you knew some movies were "better" than others. Even a child can feel basically any Disney sequel to be worse than the original ones, and when it came to DreamWorks we all knew in our kiddy brains that Shark Tale, Over the Hedge etc. were not as "good" as Shrek or Road to ElDorado or the Prince of Egypt.
Not saying the movies cannot be enjoyable, because I for sure liked to watch Shark Tale if someone suggested it, but there is that somewhat "trashy" feeling about some movies even a child cannot deny. True story.
iRinnda: That‘s why I disagree that kids love „anything animated thrown at their faces“. Even kids have a taste. I never watched Shark Tale, Over the Hedge or Flushed Away because these movies already seemed stupid and like cheap rip-offs in the trailers. I watched Bee Movie and thought it was really terrible because the „message“ in it was really questionable to me. I never even heard of the Road to El Dorado movie you mentioned and I don‘t even know what it is. I didn‘t watch Prince of Egypt because it is religious propaganda. But yes, Shrek was funny. To be fair I wasn‘t really a chils when these movies came out but a preteen/teen. I think I was about 16 when „Finding Nemo“ came out which was a good movie.
A+ for the bit about the Disney sequels. Even as an elementary school kid I knew that shit was as good as mustard on watermelon and boiled artichokes. Especially the Cinderella sequels, number three being the absolute most offensive. Honorable mention: Pocahontas 2 - trash. The only good sequel from Disney was Lion King 1.5.
@@denisenova7494 What do you find questionable about Bee Movie's message?
F CV: Capitalist propaganda and: „Just adapt and do what anybody else does and don‘t think of your own and don‘t revolt!“ - WTF?
Denise Nova Lol that’s not the message of the movie and Big Joel doesn’t think like that either. Barry still lives with humans and fights for civil rights of other animals. Bees aren’t being exploited anymore, they sell their honey instead of it being forcefully taken away. Revolution was a good thing, only honey being exclusively for bees was seen as bad.
I remember never liking Shark Tale, enjoying Over the Hedge, and immediately forgetting The Bee Movie’s plot and characters after watching it
Bee movie is pretty trash
Exactly the same for me, wow
You know, there's no aerodynamic explanation for why a bee can fly.
Max Garza My thoughts on these three films exactly! I could maybe even do a chronological marathon of reviewing DreamWorks Animation films to elaborate on why!
while Over the Hedge, still remains as a great underrated dw movie
suggestion: instead of a sharktale script doctor choosing either to focus on a critique of social hierarchy OR a learn-to-accept-your-situation story, Oscar changes society so that this very necessary job of whale-washing gets the respect it deserves.
That... Actually seems like a good idea to base a movie on.
spoilers for Bee Movie damn!
I can't believe Trolls did a story on mass genocide on a sentient race better
What about Chicken Run?
Excuse me what the fuck? No, seriously, i havent watched that movie
@@JamesLawner the best quote, "i dont want to be a pie... dont like gravy!
@@miming3679 Chicken Run is a classic but Im talking more modern Dreamworks stuff
@@speedforcespector i thought we were talking about trolls
Omg you look like Alex Hirsh and Elijah Wood mixed into one person
and Andrew Shrock
He can be either one flawlessly it’s weird I’m amazed
I'm uncomfortable with how accurate that description is
I actually loved Over The Hedge, I think it's great. Still watch it occasionally.
I haven't watched it in years but yeah, I liked it as a kid. And seeing as how I don't think badly of it (which I do for movies like Flushed Away) I'm sure if I watched it again I would still like it.
i really enjoyed all 3 of the “trash era movies” as a kid....i mean REALLY enjoyed. i became super interested in bees and beekeeping after seeing the bee movie, i LOVED the over the hedge score and i found shark tale really fun. i would put the fond memories i have of these films down to nostalgia or just being a dumb kid at the time but ive rewatched both over the hedge and the bee movie in the last couple years and i gotta say....i think theyre still really fun, though not without their faults they have special places in my heart. not sure about shark tale though. i havent seen it since i was about 7 and the animation looks cursed
While not "objectively good," they're still fun.
just clicked but i really hope you discuss the strange, creepy sexualization of the female fish in this movie, because it has haunted me ever since i was a boy
was not disappointed
This is why I’m glad my parents let me watch the stripshow scene in Great Mouse Detective. If I’m gonna’ have a conflicted sexual identity, at least it’s one that has a good grasp on animation design fundamentals.
@@samwallaceart288 I have said it before and I'll say it again, the Walt Disney company is single-handedly responsible for the creation of more furries than any other person or group.
Not one myself, but growing up getting some very strange feelings from anthropomorized female animals, I do understand it.
@@scaper8 Not just flurries, a truly disturbing amount of fetishes have spawned from the Disney brand. Not that I'm... speaking... from experience... or something...
Yeah that still creeps me out I was so uncomfortable as a kid
Shark tale is the best piece of literature I’ve ever seen
Puts shakespeare to shame .
Guillemot Sharkespeare
When dreamworks does there own thing, they make good art, but whenever they try to piggyback on Pixar’s ideas so they can reap some of Pixar’s money they don’t make good art. How to train your dragon, rise of the guardians, Kung fu panda, and Madagascar to me at least was good art.
Oooo the first HTTRD was honestly fantastic.
I've never once questioned why the fish have eyebrows until now.
Wait what??? Over The Hedge was one of the best animated movies from my childhood. I still love it to death even now
cabbage scented candle ikr lol
I want a cabbage scented candles
best childhood movie
cabbage scented candle Ikr. I was so heartbroken when I lost the movie 12 years ago
I mean, you're someone who can have "cabbage scented candle" as their user name and not vomit in their mouth every time they have to conceive of such a thing, so this comment checks out.
I'm honestly a bee movie fan. The movie is just so ridiculous that's it's just fun to see what happens next.
It would honestly bee pretty good if it was like an hour shorter.
was the spelling intentional?
@@chocobear4078 lmao
Same, i used to love both the bee movie and shark tale for these reasons. 😂
Shark tale is a treasure. Nostalgia beats critical analysis.
Amen
Toky Entertainment its also about how fish are friends not food
@@darius5592 get outta here
Shrek is a treasure. Shark tale is gay
@@amateurwave3593 🖕
I think it's tricky to place the movie's social class-message, because it is clearly making allusions to the natural food chain, and at the same time social social conduct. From a biological/ecological point of view, sharks are just doing their thing by eating the fish: what's more, the ocean needs them to be predators, so it's not evil from them to eat shrimp, fish and such. But from a social point of view, sharks are being more like predatory upper-class mafia, who take advantage of others, when there are other ways for them to survive without abusing their power. I get what they're trying to say, but ultimately, the movie forgets that sharks are sharks, and the whole moral at the ending is confusing when you think of it.
they should've just said that when sharks die they become algae, that the other fish then eat
Why has there not been a good quality analysis of Road to El Dorado focusing on its heavy anti-religious subtext? Like I love Lindsay Ellis but she dismissed the film entirely based on a really off base reading of its summary that doesn't capture the fact that El Doradan characters in the film are clearly depicted as using the stupid, selfish Europeans (the Chief mentions that he knows they're human and at the first feast in their honor has to ask everyone to pretend that they give a shit so that he can use their favor to push out the High Priest), that the stupid selfish Europeans are the reason they're at risk from Cortez, and the only way that Cortez even has a chance is because of the political divide between the city. Like people who dismiss it as an inaccurate depiction of Aztec culture despite the fact that it's literally a mythical location that's not Aztec or Mayan or described as such. The movie was one of the only kids movies I've seen that discussed colonization by dehumanizing the colonizing force and bringing up slavery and genocide (Cortez is literally compared to a capricious demon sent to rid the world of humanity).
But most importantly everyone seems to miss that the High Priest does not act or think about sacrifice in anyway similar to real Aztec beliefs because he is explicitly compared to Christian views on original sin. He wants the gods to purge the streets of humanity, who he views as filthy by their very being. He is very specifically linked to Cortez and his last minute realization about Cortez is not depicted as the goofy native falling for white bois again--this is truly what he was waiting for. This is his god of death sent to purge his city for a thousand years.
Where did lindsay address el dorado?
@@ansvangasse7644 the Pocahontas video
@@ansvangasse7644 also I forgot to include it but in the film, Miguel's willingness to not financially exploit El Dorado is only due to his desire to emotionally and socially exploit the natives to fill in his own desire for worship and meaning. He wants to be treated like a hero, and both he and Tulio have to sacrifice their attempts to exploit the locals in order to actually help the people they have endangered. Miguel learns that colonialism and indigenous people are not adventures for his Western wanderlust, tulio learns that sex is better than money, they both learn that friendship is the true adventure in life. El TiVo learns nothing because he was perfect to begin with
Calm down Susan it was a video about a movie of sharks.
@@caetanosilveira153 you should really do a video about The Road to El Dorado you have some really good theories that would def be interesting to explore further. I at least would be really interested in watching you interpret the movie through specifically the settler/colonizer lens and given the popularity of these type of disney film critique videos I bet a lot of other people would too.
As Schaffrillas points out, the title of the movie is an anagram for Shrak.
Trash? What do you mean trash? Shark Tale is a masterpiece!
I only clicked because I couldn't sit by and let this disrespect go down.
One of my favorite childhood movies when I didn’t have cable.
Shark Tale is trash.
@@amateurwave3593 no
@Gavin Singh lol yup
i forgot about lord farquaad and thought you meant the love triangle was between shrek, fiona and donkey and tbh i didn't really question it
This here is a top quality dissection of trash. I would know.
*ENDLESS TRASH*
Although Shark Tale is trash for having sexist stereotypes, uninspired animation and a mean-spirited execution of the scenes, a couple of the (highly) redeemable aspects of it (although it only elevates it to a joke of animation to half-trash) had to be the shrimp (design-wise, voice-wise AND backstory-wise) and the old-school bops like Got to Be Real, Good Foot, Car Wash, Lies & Rumors and more.
shark tale is not trash
Over the Hedge is underrated and is actually not to bad.
Shark Tale is not trash, you DFs
I went into a shark tale rabbithole after watching Schaffrilllas video. That was a couple months ago, and I never got this video recommended. Not until just now, after watching Kevin's recent video... that was about Minecraft. Lol
There is no love triangle in Shrek. Lord Farquaad is not in love with Fiona. He's in love with himself.
Narcissism at its finest!
There is the facade of a love triangle though. Fiona does, at least on some level, think Farquad is who she's supposed to marry.
Corekt, she thinks, it's her faith to marry the prince. Farquad thinks, it's his faith to become a king. And Shrek thinks, it's his faith to be the monster. So it's more like a faith triangle. I guess the point is: F**k faith.
Call me crazy but my first thought was a love triangle between Donkey, Fiona and Shrek, then I suddenly remembered that Farrquad existed
He's in love with the IDEA of Fiona, or at least the idea of HAVING Fiona.
You look like Francis the ladybug from A Bug's Life
Resurrect The Night shoo fly, don’t bother me
Resurrect The Night I'm crying lmfao
Resurrect The Night lol yes
TAKE IT BACK
I totally see that now
I still remember how much fun the Over The Hedge game was on DS.
Michael omg I forgot I had the game boy one 😳
I remember playing it on gamecube
On god. I had the ps2 version and it was fire.
Still got the cartridge on my n64
SAME
Funny that you keep mentioning the shrimp scene. I remember in the commentary that a writer said they wanted to reveal the shrimp's story was just a lie. Having him lie about that really would seem to backtrack the essentialism message and make it even more confusing
Something something shark dad did nothing wrong
I always figured the shrimp's story was a parody of all the cheap tricks movie writers resort to when they want to pull the audience's heart strings.
I love Shark Tale just because it’s the embodiment of pure chaos
I actually really liked this movie as a kid. It still is kindof funny to me.
I loved the movie as well, taught me to accept people even if they are different.
i think nostalgia is talking rn
Why do people hate these movies now? 😂
@@BrokeBot Ikr
OMG same. I can't see anything wrong with it.
Shark Tale might be one of the most important movies I saw as a child, because it was literally the first time as a kid that I came out of the movie theater and thought, umprompted, "Wow, that was a really bad movie."
Everyone remembers the first movie they watched as a kid that made them realize "wow movies can be bad". Mine was Fantastic 4 2005.
Jonathan Swindle you lying
Mine was Madagascar.
It didn't help that I was one of those weird animal obsessed kids who knew about and liked fossas.
@@troyareyes
Mine was Planet 51. I didn't even sit through the whole thing when I saw it on TV because of how boring it was.
+D D other way around
I often wondered how the hell did Dreamworks went from making "The Prince of Egypt", "The Road to El Dorado", and "Sinbad" to.....these kinds of movies???
alicia nong iirc neither el dorado nor sinbad did well at the box office. Shrek, however, was a smash hit. Dreamworks is, at the end of the day, a business with the goal of making as much money as possible.
Jack Talks Especially under Jeff Katzenberg
So let me get this straight. Your wondering how dreamworks went from making good movies to MASTAPEECES LIKE SHARK TALES BABY WHEN WE GETTING A SEQUEL BOYS
illuminati took over
Shrek happened. It’s dirty humor and pop culture jokes worked once so Dreamworks thought it would work every time.
CallMeKevin has the exact same kind of taste in videos that I do, glad he brought us here
If you like Big Joel, you might enjoy Jack Saint, another leftie media critique youtuber who often uses seemingly innocuous pop culture stuff to jumpstart discussion of bunch of interesting stuff. He's more explicitly political than Big Joel though. Here's a good video talking about Race Allegories in stuff like Zootopia ua-cam.com/video/7oR6iET6FVo/v-deo.html
This is gonna be a good 3 part series, you can tell a lot of work has gone into this and I appreciate that
"What about a dude who breaks the mold."
"Only Shooting Stars hit the mold."
Break the mold*
Average Player3 He literally had it, then for some reason decided to change ‘break’ to ‘hit’... I don’t get it.
@@brockbuster We need a grammatical explanation here Diego
You can attempt to break something , if it’s not within your reach , all you can do is try to ”HIT” it . Idk how this is even an issue
I don't know how this isn't a BIGGER issue.
When you review Over The Hedge, please be gentle.. muh childhood..
Seriously, that movie makes me happy.
little less than lugubrious idk I thought it was too cheesy when I was a kid
@Tom one. You don't have to reply but, could you explain how it was cheesy? Seriously. I still think it's a good movie with a serious narrative. I'd like to hear your perspective on it. (:
Ikr!
it was a great movie. me n my bro watched it together at night in our room after we came home with lots a nice junk food from the shop. which was a greater experience since the movie was all about food. lol
This reminds me of guns in Minecraft.
To be fair, you have to have a Very High IQ to understand Shark Tale.
Not a high iq, just a high social understanding about the heirarchy and the establishment.
Only smart people can understand its smart, nihilistic humor
jayjay86443 oops you didn't get the joke
Oofta
You are only allowed to enjoy TV or cinema if you have an IQ of >500.
I genuinely enjoyed Over The Hedge back in the day
That's because it was genuinely good lol
hah, it’s the second time this month one of my favorite youtubers has covered this movie. thank god, my childhood trauma about sexy fish is going to rest.
Who is the other youtuber?
yes who
bruh, looks like you actually went underwater for this.
@ yikes, just yikes
@ than why did u watch
this man *GREASY*
here's an algorithm nugget because I don't have anything interesting to add
Good call. I will give votes and comments to this comment for maximum engagement
@Em ! fuck do I love engaging with content
Dang, well now everyone has too...
engagement --- engaged
copy that
Shark tale=trash... ok
Bee movie=trash...debatable
Over the hedge=trash... slow your roll cowboy
bro Over The Hedge is the best Dreamworks movie
I keep reading shark as shrek
Adihsam more like... Shrek... Fail.
_somebody once told me..._
_the chat's about to kill me_ ;(
The best dreamworks movie is kung fu panda or shrek 2
Agreed
this boy is going to talk trash about over the hedge
boy.
I love the part where you say “jokes on us, Hes a loser” i laughed also I’m coming from call me Kevin and I’m actually glad I did it’s a great video
I just watched a video analysis about a movie that I’ve never even seen 10 minutes of
same
I think you've misread the end of Oscar's arc. His problem wasn't just an inability to accept his place in life, it was society that caused that inability. He was the lowest of the social hierarchy so even if he accepted his own job, society still told him he was garbage.
That doesn't make much sense as a reading. Nothing about society, at least with regard to this issue, meaningfully changes from the beginning of the movie to the end. And yet the ending is a happy one regardless. The main characters in the present day who pose Oscar's position as garbage are Lola and Sykes. How do either of these characters really change? I don't think they do. No, the happy ending comes from Oscar learning self acceptance, not from dealing with any societal ill.
@@eggynack oscar learned self acceptance because now society accepts him. I dont remember the movie that much but i think thats what happens
Dear Big Joel, what would you do if we called you Average Sized Joel
*_BLASPHEMY_*
"Hey let's make a movie about Will Smith being a fish working at a car wash"
Dreamworks - 2001
"This question brings us to the second defining mechanic of Shrek."
Well that's a sentence I hear today.
The main thing I remember about Shrek is it has this very subversive edge to it, regarding unpicking all the phoneyness that comes along with Disney's schtick.... and then hugely undermines it by stopping every now and again to go "ha ha, Farqaard is a dwarf" - if they wanted to go for the whole vanity angle they seemed to be aiming for, they could have made him an inch shorter than six feet tall.... but he says to everybody that he's six feet tall and has anyone correcting him beheaded.
Really great video, by the way. I loved it. Earned a subscriber here!
Huh. That's an interesting idea.
Farquaad is supposed to be a dick joke, but I always figured that he was supposed to be symbolic of Disney/the status quo's internal insecurity, which expresses itself in the desire to "perfect" the world around it. A smarter movie would have pointed out that Farquaad is a "freak" too for being that short (perhaps he's part Dwarf and thus a fairytale creature himself) but "Shrek" just went for the dick joke.
I think the sequel greatly improved on the concept by making prince charming the villain in addition to sending up Hollywood celebrity culture alongside Disney.
lol I actually love shark tale as a kid. But then again, as a kid you don't know what's good.
same
I remembering liking this when I was a kid too but that may have been it was one of the few kid's dvds we had so I would re watch it over and over till I would learn to like it.
I still do it's hilarious. We except so many other genres as just comedy. Why do animated kids movies have a good moral. It's like a sitcom or Bugs Bunny.
That's funny cuz I watched Watership Down and plague dogs as a kid.. I genuinely know what good movies are now
@D D right fricken losers
"Deep down I've always shaped her with them Martin Scorsese fish"
Me: * Thumbs up the video immediately*
Shipped* her?
Lenny's vegetarianism being coding for homosexuality was also used for homosexuality was used for Ryan Sinclair from the sitcom Dinosaurs
Repeat after me: Shark Tale is glory. Over the Hedge is love. The Bee Movie is life. I will not talk about these gods as anything less than the aforementioned. No ifs ands or buts.
:)
This video frequently shows up in my recommendations, so I'm just gonna watch it now, why not.
That was really good and interesting. Subscribed!
Isn't nice when you get a good recommendation.
same because i didnt want to see will smith in a fish anymore
Soooo did everyone enjoy CallMeKevin shooting Minecraft mobs? I did :D
Those huge spooky eyes lured me in, but I stayed for the great content.