Top Man! That's the way to do it, open and honest yet you're open to new products but as long as they tick the boxes you require for a super camp. Well done, that was great to watch. Good luck doing the Fjallraven Classic - hope you record that each day.
Condensation is due to basic Laws of nature (warm moist air from within the tent coming into contact with the colder fly inner side and condensing there) - it can be mitigated, but never eliminated; differences in ventilation properties and resultant condensation levels vary between tent makers and their respective designs of course, and different venues on different days have different conditions and humidity content too. Overall, I’ve heard far more comments about condensation being encountered by users of the Hilleberg Soulo than the Nortent Vern 1, but of course it’s still early days. It’s great that you’re addressing this aspect in this video. 👍🏻
Nice chat! thanks for the shout out Scott. We'll done for calling sh**te on condensation boy. I am expecting a lot of those to crawl out from under their stones for my upcoming Vern 2 video.
He does love his vestibules! 😜 It's great to see another creator spitting facts about tents/gear instead of blowing smoke up companies arses. It's refreshing 👌 I get up too early for sunrises, bring on summer so i can see some! 🤣 Although autumn is the best time of year to catch them and sunsets 🤩 Good luck on your Sweden adventure pal 💪😎💪
Very grounded and good video. Got the Vern 1 myself. Apart from a few cheap-feeling aspects (guylines, inner tent loops and flimsy plastic hooks on the ventilation caps), it really is a piece of quality with well tought out solutions. I swapped the guylines out with the ones from the Fjällräven Abisko line, and that has massively raised the quality feeling for me.
Yeah the guylines do feel cheap, and bulky too. I don't have much of an issue with the vent clips as those little mitten clips are surprisingly strong and with the bungee cord I don't see them being an issue, but I totally get ya.
Enjoyed the good blunt discussion on the tents, trolls and those who have a favourite tent until they get sent another free one. 😂😂 Shame the weather wasn't nastier mate. Cracking location, and thanks for the mention on my channel.
In that area there's a good few of these type of ruins. It was clearly big industry in the area back in the day. It's definitely a nice camp as are the others to be fair. 👍
If there was a perfect tent and price for everyone, there'd only be one type for sale. There's lots because everyone has different likes and wants. The worst condensation I've ever had was in a hammock, under a tarp. No lack of ventilation but everything was drenched. This is the only time it happened in over a hundred nights. You can't make a tent view on just a couple of nights. Nice to hear sensible thoughts.
Bang on Scott. Im a huge advocate for telling it how it is and with tents and hiking its incredibly subjective. You'll command more respect being like this than any of the eluded to channels. Its 2024 though so id expect some crying a**es and dummy spitting but hey ho. For the record and in theme. I love the ultralight stuff for multi dayers and im a scarp, kuiu storm star and durston xmid fan boy.......even though i actually own a scarp ultra and a zpacks duplex. We all love our gear and can justify why but if someone wants to terror them......i wont cry about it 😂 Really refreshing to have someone tell it how it is and as long as it stays that way......ill be watching mate 🙂 Take care, Adge
Thanks mate really appreciate it. Yeah I've got mates who are well into the ultralight life. Like I say it's whatever floats your boat of course. Maybe when my right knee (which is made of biscuits) finally gives up I may have no choice but until then I like my luxuries haha. How do you get on with the Scarp ultra? I had one but just couldn't get on with it. It was a shame because previously I've had silnylon scarp1s and they're a great tent.
I probably wouldn't. I'm no expert on urban camping though. But I'd have thought something less expensive, and with a bit more room would probably serve you better.
I have the vern 1 and recently I have seen 2 videos that people been out in winds above 40 and the poles have snapped and bent but myself into astro photography and like to have a camp fire going is not going to camp out in really high winds but this have happened.
@@HairyHiker2022 I will be looking at purchasing the 10.25mm poles as better for the windy conditions if I decide to go out in those condition's but apart from that the tent seems to be ok but they recon the zip storm cover is a bit slack and flaps about in the wind, but apart from that it not a bad tent for the money I suppose.
Hi Scott. Regarding your Thermarest mattress, they have a lifetime guarantee. If you contact Cascade Designs and put a warranty claim in, they should send a replacement out to you. I did it with an Xtherm that had a popped baffle. I posted it to the address they gave me and received a brand new one about a week later 👍
My vern will be delivered by the end of April beginning of may. So may not get much chance to really test it till winter... my lightweight 4season tent is the fjallraven abisco light 1.. An amazing tent. I have the oex flux mat ( I think it's r rating is 3 ). My only other piece of oex kit is the bobcat 1. Again an amazing little tent. No sorry i tell a lie , I have the leviathon 900 sleeping bag. Though I have only used it once and am selling it as I got the Rab ascent 1100 around the same time. My winter sleeping mat is the Rab 5.5 it's a beast, it takes up so.much room in my bag.. As you say there is no perfect tent , I use different tents for different camping requirements.. if I just go to a local woodland I may use a cheapy tent , my naturehike cloudpeak 2 for example... I did read somwhere that a hilleberg black label with footprint comes in at about 3kg, so the vern is not too different. When I go up in the mountains I take the abisco or the bobcat. At the time the bobcat cost me 40 somthing quid . What a bargain it was , and I trust it because it has never let me down, in some terrible weather. Take care out there.
Thing is I'd say the vern 1 is probably more comparable to the Soulo red label which is a bunch lighter. I also have a bunch of tents. Also for different purposes. I think the only way to get the perfect tent is to make your own but sadly those skills I lack haha
I totally agree there's no such thing as a perfect tent I've got a few Xmid kuiu mountain star and storm star and hilleberg niak all have the own little faults either weight size or price the beat tent is that suits you the best.
For me I think the perfect tent would be a side entry tunnel tent around the 2kg mark with a big vestibule. The closest think I've seen is a Wechsel Pioneer 2 but it's not quite right. Haha
@@HairyHiker2022 we're always searching but there's always something not quite right.and everyone is different for me I'm a dome tent fan with side entry.my niak is perfect for me on size and shape but falls down on price and not good in snowy conditions.im lucky I have tents for all seasons and eventualities though.and as for condensation all tents suffer with it you can pitch 2 tents sleep in 1 keep the other empty and it will still have condensation but some tents are easier to deal with it that's why I won't have single skin or inner 1st pitch.
Ain't that the truth. I've had so many tents in the last few years it hurts my head. I think I will go to my grave before I find that holy grail. Just bought a Nallo this week. I've got a halland 2 LW which is a great tent but I wanted more strength. The nallo with side entry and an altered inner would be pretty damn close to perfect for me if I'm honest but at the price I'm not prepared to mod it in any way.
You're 100% right there's no perfect tent. Great information thank you
Top Man! That's the way to do it, open and honest yet you're open to new products but as long as they tick the boxes you require for a super camp. Well done, that was great to watch. Good luck doing the Fjallraven Classic - hope you record that each day.
Thanks mate, yeah will be doing as much as I can for that. Should be epic 🙂
Condensation is due to basic Laws of nature (warm moist air from within the tent coming into contact with the colder fly inner side and condensing there) - it can be mitigated, but never eliminated; differences in ventilation properties and resultant condensation levels vary between tent makers and their respective designs of course, and different venues on different days have different conditions and humidity content too. Overall, I’ve heard far more comments about condensation being encountered by users of the Hilleberg Soulo than the Nortent Vern 1, but of course it’s still early days. It’s great that you’re addressing this aspect in this video. 👍🏻
I’d rather have a bit of condensation than a tent which isn’t fit for purpose
Nice videeo!!
Nice chat! thanks for the shout out Scott. We'll done for calling sh**te on condensation boy. I am expecting a lot of those to crawl out from under their stones for my upcoming Vern 2 video.
You're welcome. Yeah they do appear with no reason or even knowledge and just make random pointless comments.
Thanks for the detailed commentary. I am waiting for the Nallo. Wishing you safe adventures and good fortune. Happy Trails!
It's a cracking tent mate. Enjoy it 👍
Really interesting thanks Scott. 1st vid of yours I've seen. Ordered my Vern yesterday so well looking forward to taking it out!👍
Enjoy. Have a great trip out
He does love his vestibules! 😜
It's great to see another creator spitting facts about tents/gear instead of blowing smoke up companies arses.
It's refreshing 👌
I get up too early for sunrises, bring on summer so i can see some! 🤣 Although autumn is the best time of year to catch them and sunsets 🤩
Good luck on your Sweden adventure pal 💪😎💪
😂😂😂 if i ever do merch, there will be a tshirt saying "Where's the vestibule"? 😂😂😂
Thanks for the comment mate. 👍
Very grounded and good video. Got the Vern 1 myself. Apart from a few cheap-feeling aspects (guylines, inner tent loops and flimsy plastic hooks on the ventilation caps), it really is a piece of quality with well tought out solutions. I swapped the guylines out with the ones from the Fjällräven Abisko line, and that has massively raised the quality feeling for me.
Oh and i also swapped the packbag with one from an Abisko Shape 2. much superior.
Yeah the guylines do feel cheap, and bulky too. I don't have much of an issue with the vent clips as those little mitten clips are surprisingly strong and with the bungee cord I don't see them being an issue, but I totally get ya.
Great honest feedback. Just come across your channel so will be checking out more 👍
Thank you. It's pretty new so not much on just yet but will be doing more for sure. 👍
@@HairyHiker2022 great to hear mate. We’re the same (only two vids) but we’ve all got to start somewhere 👍
I just subscribed mate 👍 good luck with it.
@@HairyHiker2022 Thankyou 🙌
Really enjoyed this, thanks Scott.
Thanks mate, appreciate it 👍
Enjoyed the good blunt discussion on the tents, trolls and those who have a favourite tent until they get sent another free one. 😂😂 Shame the weather wasn't nastier mate. Cracking location, and thanks for the mention on my channel.
I'm nothing if not blunt 😂😂 yeah, maybe I'll get the salty weather next time haha. My pleasure for the mention. I like your posts 👍
Not where I thought your camp was. Looks nice, though. The industry, as it was, must have a similar building for the same process. Great vid.😊
In that area there's a good few of these type of ruins. It was clearly big industry in the area back in the day. It's definitely a nice camp as are the others to be fair. 👍
If there was a perfect tent and price for everyone, there'd only be one type for sale. There's lots because everyone has different likes and wants. The worst condensation I've ever had was in a hammock, under a tarp. No lack of ventilation but everything was drenched. This is the only time it happened in over a hundred nights. You can't make a tent view on just a couple of nights. Nice to hear sensible thoughts.
Absolutely agree 👍
Bang on Scott. Im a huge advocate for telling it how it is and with tents and hiking its incredibly subjective. You'll command more respect being like this than any of the eluded to channels. Its 2024 though so id expect some crying a**es and dummy spitting but hey ho.
For the record and in theme. I love the ultralight stuff for multi dayers and im a scarp, kuiu storm star and durston xmid fan boy.......even though i actually own a scarp ultra and a zpacks duplex. We all love our gear and can justify why but if someone wants to terror them......i wont cry about it 😂
Really refreshing to have someone tell it how it is and as long as it stays that way......ill be watching mate 🙂
Take care,
Adge
Thanks mate really appreciate it. Yeah I've got mates who are well into the ultralight life. Like I say it's whatever floats your boat of course. Maybe when my right knee (which is made of biscuits) finally gives up I may have no choice but until then I like my luxuries haha.
How do you get on with the Scarp ultra? I had one but just couldn't get on with it. It was a shame because previously I've had silnylon scarp1s and they're a great tent.
I'll be homeless this Saturday and bought the cheapest tent from Decathlon. Would you recommend this Vern 1 for urban camping?
I probably wouldn't. I'm no expert on urban camping though. But I'd have thought something less expensive, and with a bit more room would probably serve you better.
Camped the same spot a couple of weeks back with friends.
Where is this please ?
@@davidc107500 Surrender bridge near Gunnerside. they used to burn peat as fuel and that was the storage building.
Hi Scott. New sub 100% based on your analysis of UA-camrs promoting free tents.
Haha thanks. Yeah it's a bit of a pet hate of mine when they aren't 100% honest about things. Thanks for the sub.
I have the vern 1 and recently I have seen 2 videos that people been out in winds above 40 and the poles have snapped and bent but myself into astro photography and like to have a camp fire going is not going to camp out in really high winds but this have happened.
I saw those videos too. I think there are a couple of design flaws that need to be addressed for sure.
@@HairyHiker2022 I will be looking at purchasing the 10.25mm poles as better for the windy conditions if I decide to go out in those condition's but apart from that the tent seems to be ok but they recon the zip storm cover is a bit slack and flaps about in the wind, but apart from that it not a bad tent for the money I suppose.
As soon as you said you didn't know if he was a troll, I knew he was a troll.
Hi Scott. Regarding your Thermarest mattress, they have a lifetime guarantee. If you contact Cascade Designs and put a warranty claim in, they should send a replacement out to you. I did it with an Xtherm that had a popped baffle. I posted it to the address they gave me and received a brand new one about a week later 👍
I'll give it a shot. Thanks mate. 👍
My vern will be delivered by the end of April beginning of may. So may not get much chance to really test it till winter... my lightweight 4season tent is the fjallraven abisco light 1.. An amazing tent. I have the oex flux mat ( I think it's r rating is 3 ). My only other piece of oex kit is the bobcat 1. Again an amazing little tent. No sorry i tell a lie , I have the leviathon 900 sleeping bag. Though I have only used it once and am selling it as I got the Rab ascent 1100 around the same time. My winter sleeping mat is the Rab 5.5 it's a beast, it takes up so.much room in my bag.. As you say there is no perfect tent , I use different tents for different camping requirements.. if I just go to a local woodland I may use a cheapy tent , my naturehike cloudpeak 2 for example... I did read somwhere that a hilleberg black label with footprint comes in at about 3kg, so the vern is not too different. When I go up in the mountains I take the abisco or the bobcat. At the time the bobcat cost me 40 somthing quid . What a bargain it was , and I trust it because it has never let me down, in some terrible weather. Take care out there.
Thing is I'd say the vern 1 is probably more comparable to the Soulo red label which is a bunch lighter. I also have a bunch of tents. Also for different purposes. I think the only way to get the perfect tent is to make your own but sadly those skills I lack haha
I prefer the circular/oval doors, so clearly your preference of a T-door is wrong! lol :D
😂😂😂
I totally agree there's no such thing as a perfect tent I've got a few Xmid kuiu mountain star and storm star and hilleberg niak all have the own little faults either weight size or price the beat tent is that suits you the best.
For me I think the perfect tent would be a side entry tunnel tent around the 2kg mark with a big vestibule. The closest think I've seen is a Wechsel Pioneer 2 but it's not quite right. Haha
@@HairyHiker2022 we're always searching but there's always something not quite right.and everyone is different for me I'm a dome tent fan with side entry.my niak is perfect for me on size and shape but falls down on price and not good in snowy conditions.im lucky I have tents for all seasons and eventualities though.and as for condensation all tents suffer with it you can pitch 2 tents sleep in 1 keep the other empty and it will still have condensation but some tents are easier to deal with it that's why I won't have single skin or inner 1st pitch.
Ain't that the truth. I've had so many tents in the last few years it hurts my head. I think I will go to my grave before I find that holy grail. Just bought a Nallo this week. I've got a halland 2 LW which is a great tent but I wanted more strength. The nallo with side entry and an altered inner would be pretty damn close to perfect for me if I'm honest but at the price I'm not prepared to mod it in any way.
Hopefully, you'll get some wind, snow, and sun next time.
Haha, everything except fire and brimstone please 😂
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31kph is about 18 19mph buddy
I'm aware but in the video it was over 50kph max wind which works out at 31mph. We didn't get any conversion wrong. 🤔