The BEST Backpacking Tents in the World go HEAD-TO-HEAD!
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Here is the ultimate backpacking tent review, the Hilleberg Soulo vs 2024 Nortent Vern 1. I believe these two solo wild camping tents are the best backpacking tent in the world. These two 1 person tents are very high quality 4 season tents capable of being used as winter tents in all sort of bad weather conditions.
I have made my solo tent choice but which do you prefer? Put it in the comment section!
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Despite the quality and reputation of the Hilleberg Soulo tent I actual prefer the Nortent Vern 1 tent. This is becuase of the increased internal space, the two doors and the ventilation options. I believe it's a great tent for tall people too.
Both tents are still not perfect though. They both weigh a fair bit and the pack sizes aren't small either. However, they will protect you in adverse weather conditions.
Hilleberg Soulo
Features
Kerlon 1200 outer tent fabric and 9mm poles make for a very lightweight yet supremely stable tent.
All season construction: outer tent walls extend to the ground and mesh areas are backed with adjustable fabric panels.
Dome construction with multiple pole crossing points provide outstanding snow-load handling capability.
Plenty of room for one occupant and his or her gear.
Linked but seperable inner and outer tent for simultaneous pitching.
Fully free standing dome design requires no pegs for pitching, and the straightforward short sleeve and clip pole system make for quick, easy set up.
The single entrance/single vestibule configuration affords easy access as well as storage space.
An optional footprint covers the entire area of the outer tent, including the vestibules. It connects directly to the tent, and can be left attached during pitching.
The inner tent can be replaced with a Mesh Inner tent (sold separately).
The outer and inner tents can be used separately. Pitching the inner tent alone requires optional pole holders (sold separately).
Specifications
Weight Specs
Flysheet & inner weighs: 1642g
Poles weigh: 550g
Total weight: 2192g (excludes pegs & bags)
Pegs x12 weigh: 136g
Construction + Materials
Inner tent area: 2.0 m2/21.5 ft2
Vestibule area: 0.6 m2/6.4 ft2
Fly fabric: Kerlon 1200, 30 D High Tenacity Ripstop Nylon 66
Fly treatment: Coated on both sides with a total of 3 layers of 100% silicone, and treated for UV resistance during dyeing and coating
Fly hydrostatic head: 5000 mm/49 kPa (ISO 811)
Fly tear strength: min. 12 kg (ISO 13937-4)
Inner tent fabric: 30 denier Ripstop Nylon
Inner tent treatment: Durable Water Repellent (DWR)
Floor fabric: 70 denier Nylon
Floor treatment: Triple-coated Polyurethane
Floor hydrostatic head: 15000 mm/147 kPa (ISO 811)
Floor miscellaneous: Highly puncture & abrasion resistant
Poles (9mm): 2 x 344, 1 x 285 cm / 2 x 135.4, 1 x 112.2 in
Pegs: 12 V-Peg
Nortent Vern 1
NORTENT Vern 1 is an extremely durable and solid tent intended for 1 person. Optimal for the longer hikes in mountains and over isolate plains where you really need a reliable shelter against the elements. With its aerodynamic shape and many possibilities for anchoring the tent to the ground, this tent is a true friend which will keep you safe in the different elements. We believe you should not have to fight the elements but rather become one with and thrive in them.
Vern 1 is designed to provide clean and correct lines that blend in with nature. We have placed great emphasis on the tent being able to be set up quickly and easily without obstacles. With a little practice you should be able to set up the tent in 2-3 minutes where you can then crawl into a warm and safe sleeping bag.
All exposed areas on the outer fabric are reinforced with Dyneema. Dyneema is considered the world's strongest fibre. It is therefore entirely appropriate that we use this fabric fibre in these tents.
4 seasons
Capacity: 1,5 person
Flysheet: Ripstop silnylon 30D, HH 3000mm (1650 g with inner)
Floor: 70D nylon, HH 10000mm
Guylines: Dyneema 10 pcs
Pegs/ stakes: 18 aluminium Y-peg (288 g, 16 g each)
Pole: Three 9 mm high quality aluminium, 7000 series. (600 g),
Bag: 70D ripstop silnylon (70 g)
Weight min: 2,3 kg
Weight max: 2,6 kg
Height: 100 cm
Length: 260 cm
Width: 200 cm
Pack size: 40x19 cm (length x diameter)
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Thanks, Andy.
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Hi Andy, I’m fairly new to all the tech of gear and especially tents. This was a great vid of two top tents, that in one way was a bit of a no brainer. But you explained very well all the facilities and the small cons of both of them, which was well appreciated. This is the best review you’ve done, thanks. Regards, Chris.
Funny that nobody seems to realize that Hilleberg is more expensive because they pay their employees fair wages. Nortent is made in China. Also, in 100km/h winds I’d sleep much better under proper DAC poles in stead of no name poles.
Dude Hilleberg is made on Estonia, with Materials from China, and Korea. They dont pay better than Nortent lol
@SepticBaz Thats nonesence, handmade are both. The difference is that Hilleberg tents are made and tested in a fabric in Estonia, with Materials from Korea ane China. Nortent are made on their service senter on China, but tested in Norway. And it's cost more because Hilleberg uses more shipping and ad commercial than Nortent. Also regarding the Green, Red, Black Labels. The Black Labels comparition are minimal to Nortent:
Poles are for example DAC 7001 aluminium, while Nortent uses 7000. Material 40 D while Nortent uses 30 D, but Nortent also uses Dyneema where Hilleberg do not. Apart from that, all materials come from China. The 1000 tag price is due to the cost of the infrastructure, Hilleberg does have a bigger company with 400 people too, and they have a marqueting department in the US.
@@DanielOutdoors You think people in China get the same rate as people in Estonia? Spoiler alert: they don't.
@JoerivanderKloet You don't have a clue man, you think Chinese people are that poor? And have ever visit China? Or Nortent Service Center? My guess is that you haven't.
@@DanielOutdoors As a matter of fact I have been there and I do know what I'm talking about. Not all Chinese labour is equal; not in quality, nor in pay. However, a skilled worker in China still makes less money than a skilled worker in Estonia.
The fact that you think that my assumption is that Chinese people are poor, does indicate that you do have some deficiencies in your understanding of how the economy works. Whether you're 'poor' or not, is not determined by an income in dollars or euros, but by how much you can buy in the country where you live. And that's the end of this discussion for me. Your assumptions are not much better than your tone of voice.
Ridiculous to call any tent the "BEST" let alone best in the world!
It totally depends on the circumstances in which you are going to use it. E.g. are either of these the BEST for lightweight backpacking in good weather conditions?
It's an interesting comparison but rather a misleading title.
Out of interest, why did you click on it if you believe there’s no best tent in the world? I’d have simply scrolled on. Serious question.
@@BackpackingUK I wanted to see what you thought were the 2 best backpacking tents in the world.
Do you honestly think they are the BEST backpacking tents in the world?
Serious question.
@@fellrunningguidesomething can objectively win more points than another thing in certain, shared and agreed upon categories. That thing that gained more points will be deemed "best". Its a simple concept really. Glad to clear it up for you.
Super interesting review and doubtless two excellent tents. Best solo backpacking tents though? To me these (and specially the Soulo) are super specialized tents good for extreme use, but way too heavy for general backpacking. I'd never consider a one person tent weighing more than 1.5 kg for "normal" use, and I'd try really hard to find one at around 1 kg - or around half a kilo for a trekking pole tent. I've spend a lot of nights in tents above treeline, and it's almost always possible to find a fairly sheltered spot unless you just have to camp at the top of a mountain.
I agree. I don't think that either of these qualifies as a backpacking tent; they're both overkill for that.
Excellent tents both, but neither is really a backpacking tent.
100% the Soulo was designed for mountaineers, both excellent tents but in completely different design class, to compare them is strange tbh, there are way better tents for backpacking to look at.
In many parts of the world and during many times of the year a normal day can turn very abnormal very quickly.
@@mikhailyaremkiv I know, I live in one of those parts. I've done lots of above treeline camping on cross country ski trips in winter conditions. To me the Soulo is still overkill.
I'm Norwegian and I can't stand the thought of the idea that Nortent is produced in China.
Hilleberg is produced in Europa. My preferred jacket is from the Norwegian brand Brynje and they also manufacture in Europe. I hope Hilleberg will find a way to lower their prices.
Really so onto Hilleberg, DAC Poles wich are pretty much produced on Korea. Hilleberg materials from what I read are ordered from several places including Estonia, China. The tent manufacture and Test are in Estonia. The Marqueting department US, HQ Northern Sweden. They do have ambassador, internationally. Depending in the Label thry either cost less or more than Nortent.
Nortent, designed and tested in Norway. Production China. Marqueting none compared to Hilleberg, but they ambassador internationally. Price and quality between Black and Red Label
New drinking game - take a shot every time “No doubt about” is said in this video, you will be drunk
😂😂😂
its no doubt about that !!!!
He needs to learn how to say words ending in t. Norten...
Great review. Looks like a reasonable contender to the Soulo. However, longevity is important and it has yet to prove itself. They could vastly improve the zip on the inner and make it more t shape. Keep up the good content.
I would call a good backpacking tent to be sub 1.2 kilos with a small pack size.
The Soulo weighs twice that. The Vern 2 is even heavier.
I'm not carrying that.
These are mountain tents, not backpacking tents.
Any recommendations for a 1 person backpacking tent please? I'm using a Lanshan 2 at the moment, I seriously need to get a better tent!
Many thanks.....
@@julesnfriends A lot depends on budget, where you are backpacking, interior space and weight. The Lanshan isnt a bad tent. Would you go for another trekking pole tent or not? Is headroom important.
I use a Vango F10 Helium 1 and an x-mid solid 2.
The vango is heavier than the x-mid, has less headroom and only one porch. It is a tough tent. Similar designs are the Hilleberg akto, the Fjallraven abisko or the Nordisk Svalbard.
Too hebx-midhas become my favourite tent. I've had it for a couple of years. Lots of headroom, 2 porches and light for a two person. Trekking pole tent but you can buy poles for it. It is a Marmite tent. A lot of people hate it but a lot haven't used it or have only had it for a few camps.
@@BrokenBackMountains HUGE thanks for this comprehensive reply. I've had a brief look through, you certainly know your tents. The options look perfect for me. Durston X- mid Solid looks like a well built Lanshan, your Vango Helium looks ideal, the two you have seem to cover all bases.
I'm camping mostly in Scotland and Scottish Highlands, spring and autumn. Lanshan didn't feel good there 3 weeks ago.
I'll read through these options more carefully - many thanks!
@@julesnfriendsThe Helium is very good and has shown great service in Scotland and Ireland in all weather.
The x-mid solid is expensive when the customs fees are factored in.
Put it this way, I wouldn't sell either tent and am considering another x-mid solid but 1 person to cut weight even more.
If you can, try to see both tents in the real world to see if they suit. There should be a helium set up in an outdoor shop somewhere.
Love your vids lad, I'm just getting set up to start camping but I'll stick with my hyena 11 for now got loads of places in the highlands I've got in mind, look forward to more reviews and camp's from you
Trouble is I’m getting my tent on the 26th , the Nortent isn’t available yet, the Hill tent is too expensive. I think the Terra nova southern cross 2 is better, however why can’t Terra nova make a southern cross 1.5? A southern cross 2 but with one vestibule and door? I feel like cross 1 too small and 2 too big?
I've noticed that most of the UA-cam influencers are raffling off or selling the Nortent tents they were given and raving about.
To be fair to them, that’s what their channel is about. Reviewing tents. It costs thousands to run a gear review channel and you need a quick turnover of products. I do the same no matter the Brand, even Hillebergs. I’d love to keep them all but I simply don’t have the money.
Great comparative review Andy. As you say, tent choice will ALWAYS be personal, to suit your build and where, when and how you intend to use the tent. I currently use a Pioneer 2, because it suits where and when I camp and how I transport it (mainly 3-season touring in a microlight aircraft). So I don’t need a full 4 season tent, but can fully appreciate the high quality and comparative virtues of both these tents. The Soulo is obviously a proven fantastic Winter tent, but as you say the Vern is certainly shaping up to be a bit more versatile. Horses for Courses I’d say! Great Review!
How about the vern 1 v scarp tarptent ? Similar price range and both are supposed to be Hilleberg challengers ??
It was an interesting comparisons covering most areas. I'd have liked to see more detail on things like the quality and thickness of the pole clips, the guy line webbing that wraps around the poles, the way these are attached to the tent fabric, thickness of guy line used. I'm guessing the devils in the detail with the Hilleberg, and that's why so many trust them in the harshest conditions. That said, I reckon the Nortent would be good for 99.5% of UK conditions.
Ill stick with my Vango banshee thanks lol. Tried and tested and a fraction of the price.
Im NOT associating you with the VERN 2! Im explaining that the VERN 2 has also had bent and snapped poles, just like the VERN 1.
OK, I'm probably being over-sensitive as many are. I'm fairly sure Nortent simply uses the same but longer 9mm poles in the Vern 2 which is a surprise to me as it's a much bigger tent with larger spans. I'm not overly surprised it failed.
I mean saying either of these is the 'best' is subjective maybe for proper 4 season conditions but definitely no need in summer for example, the Soulo i think is well overpriced i did own one but found it far too small so got the Allak instead which i only take out is severe wind/snow, my latest tent is the Niak which even as a yellow label Hilleberg will probably out perform most other companies 4 season tents, as for the Nortent well ive never owned one so i can't comment on that, but there's definitely no perfect all round tent, many factors to take into account weather, location ect ect
There is a similar design tent as Nortent Vern 1 called Mil-tech Recom one person tent. You can get it in different camouflage color versions, tent is long enough that basketball player could sleep in it and it cost less than $100. I can confirm it is fully waterproof. This is how it looks like :
ua-cam.com/video/Doom39A73wo/v-deo.html
Think I’ll wait for the real life test on a very windy, wet hillside with rocks and peat underneath. That’s the comparison video I want to see!
Don't hold your breath on a better testing. He will be previewing something else next week. Everything on this channel is just previews.
It's all about getting views and companies to send free items.
Didn't mention that he got the Nortent for free.
Already been done by other well known, experienced campers that are also youtubers.
@@MrCMHUDDY can you point me to any? The only true comparison videos I’ve seen with the tents pitched at the same time in the same weather are Tom Heaney’s but he hasn’t bought a Vern.
@@Paul27483 lol i always take advice from 2month old youtube accounts with no content and no subs... with a created name to try and sound legit on the subject........thanks... il dis regard ur blatant troll if you dont mind tho... ;)
The Vern 1 .... the new tent of choice for middle aged fat blokes who fancy a night in the woods.
Great comparison presentation, the old stalwart hilleberg soulo, a tried, tested and well trusted tent from one of the worlds premium tent manufacturers vs the new kid on the block which has some pretty impressive stats and is causing quite a few waves in social media land. Both tents will easily stand up to what 95% of uk backpackers will ever put them through here in the UK, and the wiser outdoors men and women will know when conditions get particularly sketchy, its always best to pitch your shelter of choice in a sheltered spot. This youtube and Instagram trend of pitching up in the most exposed spot available in the face of an oncoming storm is for silly people trying to get more views on their channel. I imagine if Bo Hilleberg ever watched such UA-camrs, he would be scratching his head as to why they pitched one of his tents in such ridiculously exposed positions. That's just youtube world I guess. Anyhow two great tents that will serve UK conditions and users very well almost all the time (providing your not making silly youtube videos pitching your tent against the worst mother nature has to offer, because she will always win).
Me personally i wouldn’t buy either reason because i prefer a bit of luxury on campsites but if push came to shove ,I’d go for the Vern over the Hilleberg because of the outrageous price
I think it’s important to factor in pitching in a storm .. I’d absolutely buy another lone rider adv tent .. to me it is the pinnacle of modern 2kg tents
Great review Andy, I think you called it right, the Hilli is for the winter extremities, the Nortent gives you the benefit of having enough room for your gear, with a better vestibule free of clutter for cooking, with the ventilation to go beyond 2 seasons. I think the 200gm is negligible, it’s a case of picking the right tent for your endeavours. Would be good for future tent reviews to show them in compression sacks to give a better idea on how it will pack, as I try and stay within 50 litres.
I did manage to fit the Soulo (excluding poles) into my MSR Hubba NX 1 compression tent bag which surprised me.
It really is a no brainier between the two. You can buy 2 if one breaks get the spare out for the same money. Personally I will stick with my vango 2 Cairngorm. Great review 👍
It’s hard to justify the price difference. I know many will say Hilleberg’s aren’t made in China, but they’re not made in Sweden either! Both have made efforts to reduce their manufacturing costs.
@@BackpackingUKtheir own factory in Europe (Estonia) must be a chunk of the cost vs China
What sort of logic is that? Forgive me but no, I am not packing an extra tent with me just incase the inferior tent I pitched fails. A wise consumer will buy once, cry once.
Nice to see a video of both of these tents side by side, the Nortent seems to be all the rage over social media at the moment. The Soulo’s do have a vent under the canopy for ventilation, I’v always opened that and never really experienced any condensation issues.
The Nortent looks a quality piece of kit I must admit, but I’d prefer a sand Hilleberg Soulo. 😁
Nice video Andy mate enjoyed watching.
THIS is the comparison we wanted! Thanks
Thanks 🙏
Good review. I think the Hilli will be better with snow loading, but, I think both will cope with extreme winter weather. There's almost always some protection from the wind. The Vern 1 has a bigger footprint than my TN Pioneer 2 (never a 2 person tent), although less interior space. I like having good interior space, but with a small footprint. I think for the price, there's no better tent than the Vern 1. As good as the Soulo is, it's too small for me. I'll stick with mine though. It's not as strong but used every week, no matter what the weather. I just choose a location to suit.
Just want to say , i cannot wait for my vern 1 to arrive. Polegate stuff that ! Tent looks fantastic. Cant afford a Hilly so what ! This tent ticks all the boxes for me. Thanks for the brilliant review. Hilleberg snobs can do one for me !
Be well aware of its limitations. These Nortents aren’t holding up in conditions where Hillebergs thrive. This video is out of date. Look for ones posted by Fellmandave and Rowanwildcamps who tested the Vern’s in real world conditions and found them wanting. Any test done on a village green claiming the Suolo is last years isn,t worth squat.
Good Job Andy, very fair.
These tents are for people that do alot of camping in crazy places.
Yes they are a beautiful investments but I can't afford it or let myself spend that much
I think this should have been a 3-horse race, including the Terra Nova Southern Cross.
You're thoughts?
Hilleberg does a better job on their door straps, and foot prints
Great review. I wonder the warranty. How Nortent will sort problems. Heard hilleberg is pretty good.
Fantastic review, there’s no doubt about it. I have a Soulo but the Vent 1 looks amazing.
Can’t afford either but my choice would be the Nortent. Would love one of these.😢
Well done on a great comparison review Andy. I see the vern 1 doing the rounds on YT & FB. Enough information for viewers to make an informed decision. Not my kind of tents either but if I had to it would be the hillieberg for me as its established and a couple of videos I watched the vern 1 holds snow on the roof which is what I would be using them for if i had one. I also read that the vern 1 comes direct from China? Is that correct in your experience?
Yes, the Nortent is made in China. I Googled where it came from and it looks like a decent set up out there. No sign of balls and chains 😂
What happened to the Terra compact AS , not that long ago it was great you said !
It is, they are totally different tents though. You can’t compare a single-pole tent to a three-pole tent that weighs about a kilo more.
@@BackpackingUK I'd argue much lighter weight makes the Compact AS better for backpacking any if the weather looks like it could be windy, you can double up on the main pole.
Great video and great review Andy 👍 placing an order off the back of this🙂
Ventilation on the Soulo is provided by the detachable roof which directs airflow through the tent. There's also a vent in the outer door.
Yes, but on the inner, you can only fold down part of one half of the door. The ventilation is pathetic in the Soulo. Same for the Unna.
What a great review mate 👍
I hate those kind of comparaison between 2 good tents wich make's me wants to buy both 😂 . Best review I've seen yet on UA-cam comparing the Soulo versus the new Vern 1. Subbing to your channel
Cheers 👍
Swap the Nortent poles for DAC ones that are the same length? Hilleberg's are notorious for condensation. Turns me off them. They also have an Instagram account dedicated to hunters, which really sucks. I don't want to buy their products.
Got to admit both these tents are great and an choice may not be so simple as one over the other but more likely which applications do you intend for the Tent..The Hilliberg would tuck into an small space and may be warmer in the cold but the Vern is much more roomier and undoubtedly comfortable in warmer weather..I tend to camp on the coastline where space is limited and the weather predictably better since its an summer pursuit so the Vern would suit that but the Hilliberg is much lighter and may prove useful with strong sea breezes..Its an hard choice for me but if i had the money I'd buy both and choose Tents over the weather and geography Vern for the beach and Hilliberg for the hills moor or heath...
The Nortent definitely wins for me, the extra features make all the difference when camping, great review Andy.
Cheers 👍
Look at 4:58
Ok for a night or two out but I wouldn’t won’t to be backpacking on a long trip with these heavy tents.
For UK multi-day use they’ll be fine, but I agree they’ll be too much for some of the North American trails.
6 pounds tents as the ‘best in the world’. Laughable.
Not as laughable as people thinking the X-Mid is 😂
@@BackpackingUK I notice you aren't using either on the WHW. The x-mid is a better backpacking tent than these. The soulo is a better mountain tent than the x-mid
13:15 -- man, that is is a lot freshly cut grass on the bottom of your shoes LOL
Those Salomon X-Ultra 4’s are magnets for grass 😂
Can I say the Nortent inner tent is not well venti for summer season?
It is well vented for a 4 season tent. I’m not sure what more you want?
Outstanding review ,Andy 👏 👌 👍
Excellent review video Andy as always 👍
I got lost when you compared it to bmw because I drive German shit for money for past 8 years and I would never drive again if I get the choice.
Not solo but the Vern 2 is a tank of a tent
Stupid title. Few hikers will carry a 2.5 kilo tent with no ventilation that costs €1000. The true best backpacking tent is my Lanshan 1 Plus because of it's price, weight, quality, space, versatility. I mean €110!
Now if you had said the highest quality winter expedition solo tent, then yes the Hilleberg is probably it. And the Nortent perhaps one of the best 4 season. But for summer backpacking they suck. And if you won't use it in summer it's not 4 season anymore now is it?
You're seriously trying to tell me the best backpacking tent is the Lanshan 1?!?! No chance!
@@BackpackingUK For the money absolutely. Price matters. 99.9% of people don't hike in winter. I can see you in that Hilleberg in 25C nights. 2.5 kilo, €1000. Good luck.
@@BackpackingUK And it's strange. Couple months ago it was RIP Lanshan and long live the Durston X-Mid. But 2 months ago you hiked the Cumbria Way with the Lanshan 2 Pro. So why not the Nortent or Durston?
Now I can understand why some people prefer the single skin Pro version. But I would advice most to get a double wall. They are not double wall for nothing. Since I'm a biker I don't carry trekking poles. My Lanshan 1 Plus version has pretty much the same space as the Lanshan 1 Pro. I can use (and pack) the outer and inner separately. So if anyone asks me what light affordable tent to get for bikepacking then the Lanshan 1 Plus should be on top of the list. Unless you want a complete free standing tent you can use under a shelter or on a concrete floor.
What I won't do is tell them they really have to get a Hilleberg for €1000. Funny enough I see people who believe they need a Mount Everest tent for a campsite along the Rhine. Usually they are not the most pleasant people to chat with. After all they have a Hilleberg.
And if you don't mind to carry a bit heavier tent than the Lanshan or something, then please get yourself one of those 165 cm high 360cm diagonal hex shape 'hot tents' with half or full inner. Right now the outer tent is €40 on Ali and comes with alu pole. At least mine came. The 280x140x130. half half inner €45. But all the guy lines you have to do yourself.
Total weight still under 2 kilo! It's a palace. I can sit in it on a chair with room to spare! Many cyclists carry a chair these days. Backpackers in the UK I don''t know.
Trust me, the quality is plenty. I've had serious thunderstorms with no problem. And if you stand next to me with your Hilleberg I would feel really sorry you. Poor guy having to crawl into that thing!
I would have to go through all your videos but so far I don't see you do a review of such a larger teepee tent. So much fun. I can't paste links unfortunately.
@@driewiellol, you're just as full of yourself as the people you are mocking 😂🤡
I have been using Soulo since 2008 for kayaking trips, and love it. However, to me, over 2 kg is too much for backpacking. I prefer a lighter tent for backpacking.
Thank you for the review Andy. Please stop doing them though as now I want the Nortent. I am not doing anything like four season camping yet though so I can’t justify it. Now, when I retire and have more time… (Don’t stop really)
Great review! I recently picked up a Nordisk Telemark 2.2 PU brand new for under £300 with the groundsheet. I’d be interested to know your opinion of the PU model!
Nortent wins it for me. More space, cheaper & if I wanted to have a sleepless night being out in silly high winds I’d just double pole!
What about the Terra Nova Laser Compact AS...???? Would you say it compares to the tents in the review - I like it due to the low profile and the lack of wind resistance.
I think Vern is superior design. If they matched the build quality of Hillleberg that would be amazing. I think the Soulo would probably be a bit easier to pitch.
Venting is critical
Like you say give it time to see how the Vern copes.niw if I was to choose any of them it would be the Vern purely because of the internal space I've always been put off with the soulo because of that all my tents are 1.5p or 2p the extra weight for me is worth it.niw having said that I still wouldn't use the Vern in summer because there's lighter options better suited to warmer conditions.
nice this nortent , only 2 tent in my life ! hillenberg allak 2 and hillenberg nammatj 2 gt! the nammatj 2 is legendary brutal rock solid exremly robust double pole bombproof fortress , it laugh at the brutal wind here in iceland !
Got the Vern 1 2024. Just hoping it’s going to see me through the whole of the year and not just winter, as buying a second (pole) tent this year is not an option. Really pleased I got it though.
Congratulations mate.
Durham, which is defo longer than 2hrs..lol
And I have my own chair!!
In my opinion Nortent Vern 1 is the winner in many ways. I`m waiting delivery for my dream tent Vern 1 PC it`s fantastic tent really is.
Thanks a lot for the video😊
Do you think that it would be better to save for one of those tents instead of buying Helm 1 and then upgrading in one or two years?
Many thanks.
The only thing I think would better is the Hilliberg in the snow. The Nortent will gather snow around the crossed poles.
My Vern 1 is here. Sadly, I've got to wait a couple of weeks before I'm able to use it. I'm far from patient!
Great comparison video. Thanks.
Love your reviews bud, another pro comparison. Keep up the great work!😉👍🏆
So which one do i buy? First time winter backpacking, well backpacking really amd i wamt a good tent but the hilleberg is an extra £350 so which do i buy?
I’d say it depends on your requirements. For instance, the Soulo is smaller inside with a smaller vestibule. However, the Soulo will probably outperform the Vern in storms. The Vern has much better ventilation and is much cheaper, especially with a footprint too.
@BackpackingUK thankyou. I'm gonna be doing West highland waybin October. Glencoe in December and then Skye in January. After your review I think the cheaper one should be okay cheers mate
Well if your basing your decision on cost, the hilleberg is much more expensive but if you ever came to sell it, you stand a very very good chance of getting almost all of your money back such is the reputation of Hilleberg tents. I suspect that once the Vern has proved itself over the next 12-18 months, and if it does turn out to be as good as the stats claim, then it will become very popular and prices will rise. In all fairness it is probably a bit too early to make any firm conclusions on the Vern as it's a relatively new tent that hasn't seen the sort of extreme usage from thousands of owners all over the globe like the soulo has. Only time will tell on the Vern, the soulo we already know. It is a hard choice at this moment in time. Both look great, for me the Vern looks more user friendly and versatile, but the soulo just oozes quality and pedigree, and it's robustness is beyond question.
typing half way through, but for me the Vern 1 is the winner for me and presume you will also say this at the end. A bit more thought has been put into it.
This is an excellent review. I have been thinking about using the Allak 2 for a solo trip, because I did not want to invest on the Soulo or Unna. I think I will now go with the Vern and go back to the Allak 2 for future two-person trips!
The glow in the dark zip tabs did it for me 👌. I love my vern 1 . Hopefully do me for years to come . Thanks for the review 👍
Nice one Andy. I nearly pulled the trigger on the soulo a few times but just couldnt justify the price. The Vern 1 looks like a winner. Great review. Cheers mate.
It's a no brainer, nearly half the cost and able to use it more often. If I could only have one it'd be the Nortent
I sold my Hilleberg Soulo, I needed something lighter.
Fits long wide sleeping pad just fine, no problem. 12:00
Nortent, deffo. It’s a new, better design.
I bet Hilliberg revise the Soulo soon, becuase of it.
All the best Andy.👍🏾🇬🇧⛺️Edited, as apparently, it’s not as good as it’s made out to be.
I’ll stick to my Robens Starlight.👍🏾😉⛺️
Hilleberg, I doubt will revise the Soulo. It's never changed since it was first introduced in 2007 apart from a Black label version. Why change something that is tried and tested over a long time.
@@steviet3725 And you know that for definite?
@Soggz7785 No, of course I don't know for definite
I just don't know why they would want to change a product that has proven itself over nearly two decades
@@sukiline 🤣🤣🤣
The head shaker video 😂😂😂
Brilliant video Andy , I love the look of the nortent but the only thing that lets it down is the shape of the inner door ,
As you said they both have there lovers and haters
This was a GREAT review and comparison! If I were looking for a tent, you sold me on the Nortent!
How about Vern1 versus Southern Cross 2 both about the same weight 2.6kg?
The SC2 v2023 is 2.4kgs. I've got that. In honesty just on the poles design wont as solid as the Vern 1, and has the hub weakness, got to make sure its well seated. Having said that, people have sailed pretty bad conditions with it.
And of course, will have more room inside.
I'd love you to do something similar between the Soulo and the TN Southern Cross 1. If I were to replace my Soulo, it's the Southern Cross which would tempt me. 75% of the weight for 90% of the capability.
Unless you’re small, you wouldn’t like it. I’m 5’8” and it feels a bit small for even me.
Thanks Andy, great video. If I was in the market for yet another tent, I’d go Nortent
When the weather is better I take a much lighter weight tent in my backpack. These tents are far too heavy for lumping around during a hot summer. Winter mountain tents I would say.
I am not suggesting this is you but the amount of UA-cam videos I watch of people getting anal about the weight of their tent and how keeping their pack weight to a minimum is so important to them, then they pull out drones, cans of beer, cameras, tripod s etc etc 🤣🤣🤣
These companies need to provide summer inners as an option to buy which I believe Hilleberg does…
New Brunswick Canada 🇨🇦
Yes, but the Soulo still has only one vent at the top of the door and the mesh liner option provides no weight saving. It’s costly too (if you can ever get hold of one!).
Interesting ~ though ease and method of putting up the tents would have been useful as part of comparing one tent with the other. For example, one always wants to erect a tent quickly and efficiently during inclement weather conditions. Would these tents fit that?
I’ve got separate reviews showing pitching of these tents. It’s really easy, peg out the tent corners first, insert poles in the short sleeves, clip up the fly and lastly guy it out. So quick and easy plus you can pitch with gloves on too!
Great to see a side by side review, you forgot to mention the Soulo roof vent leaks both at the end point of the zip and eventually through the black triangular fabric in heavy wind blown rain, plenty of reports on UA-cam plus my experience. Love the Soulo but it's a years old design which should have been updated by now, the Vern is I think what the Soulo should be now.
This must be your modern entertainment device consumer mentality but we dont "update" outdoor equipment like electronics every year or two, mostly because a reputable designer designs a product properly the first time and sticks with a proper design because it works. The "new and improved" is a gimmick almost everytime. I expect to see the "old" Hilleberg designs to still be around long after the other tents are decomposing in the dump.
Andy, Excellent video agree more space and better ventilation together is a winning combination for UK conditions
One question is it necessary to seam seal the Vern1?
I’m not intending to seam seal it. I believe they do flat lock stitching like Hilleberg.
Bought new vern 1 based on your initial assessment & have no doubts it’s the best tent I’ve ever owned- looking forward to pushing its limits in the next 2 years
You won’t regret it 👍
You said the Soulo has no vent, which is incorrect. What do you think is under that top cover?
It’s not what I’d call a proper vent. It doesn’t assist fresh air into the tent, only out, and with no flow, it’s of limited use.
These look way too complicated to erect daily on a multi-day long-distance expedition.
Both these tents literally take less than 5 minutes to pitch. They’re even designed to be pitched wearing gloves too.
And the Vern is £400 cheaper!
Great review Andy, definitely time to move my Hilleberg Akto on and replace it with the Vern 1.
I should have said, one of the best things about Hilleberg’s is their re-sale value. Your Akto will still be worth a substantial amount of money.
slighty wrong information about the inner length:
Soulo is not 225cm but 220cm
Vern 1 is not 240cm but 237cm
I also own both
Thanks 👍 Is 237 official or just from another channel? If so, what is the official width at the ends and middle? I can’t find that information, only the external dims.
@@BackpackingUK i own both Vern 1 versions. Also an Akto and a Soulo
Brilliant comparison Andy. Do you know Andy what the narrowest internal width is at either end of the nortent please. You mentioned the solou at each end and the widest measurement in both but I didn’t notice you mentioning the vent 1. If you have the size It would be a huge help. Thank you
I think it’s 60cm, but because it’s 240cm long, it’s unlikely your pad would ever be at a far end. I think if a long pad is centred, it’s about 70cm each width end.
@@BackpackingUK brilliant my exped LW is 1970 x 650 so it sounds like that will drop into place with no issues then. I’ve the vern 2 due this week but I wanted to confirm the above before ordering the Vern 1 too. Didn’t want to make an expensive mistake. Brilliant info Andy thank you 👍
Hi Buddy,
Great review as usual, what pegs do you use or recommend. There appears to be many different versions so would like some advice on this please?
V or Y pegs are my preferred choice. V for harder ground and Y for softer ground. Short pegs are better for summer use and longer pegs are better for wet or soft ground (especially if it’s windy!). As for brands, MSR pegs are strong and light and readily available. There are plenty of cheaper copies too on Amazon!
So based on your expert opinion I have been looking at the MSR GROUNDHOG TENT Y. Would this be a great all round peg to buy do you think? Or is there a better one in their range?
Nortent for the win 🎉
Great reviews. Thanks
Great balanced review of both tents 👍