Triumph Tiger 1200 - The Good, the Bad and the Ugly. Long term owner review.
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- Опубліковано 16 січ 2020
- This is my two-year 20,000 Km review of the Gen 3 Triumph Tiger 1200. It covers 2018, 2019 & 2020 models as they are all the same with no differences. This is as frank as you will get, warts and all. The bike has been the least reliable bike I have ever owned but somehow, I still want to keep the thing!
I mention some features I would like to see on a Gen 4 version of the bike but while editing the video I realise this bike has probably gone as far as it can go in its present format, there is nothing more it needs so my title screen mentions Gen 3.5 instead, just upgrades or feature fixes I would like to see.
Way Out West by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution licence (creativecommons.org/licenses/...) Artist: www.twinmusicom.org/ because the real Good, Bad and the Ugly soundtrack was too much to license! I'm a cheapskate….I make these vids for a bit of fun only but I hope you enjoy. - Авто та транспорт
What a good review. Really enjoyed your factual details. It's finally made my mind up to get one now.
RT1200BIKER - Excellent stuff, you won’t regret it, it’s a great bike to ride. Congratulations on your new prospective purchase.
Indeed. I was split between KTM super adventure, and Tiger1200. I think I made my mind too.
@@albertoj.mollinedo4116 KTM seat height is an issue for me, probably too tall, and I really have a problem with chain-drives on motorcycles that are supposedly meant for long distance. I'm also imagining that the Triumph will be more comfortable for long-distance and 2-up riding.
Hi Terry! Greetings from Portugal 👍 as you know i have the xrt 1200 from May 19... I'm 1,73 cm .. around 5'8... No flat foot! But... After some initial scaring experiences.... I already have almost 7000 kilometers... With or without lugage... Paniers and top case... And i simply love it ♥️ Im só used to it never even consider to Change!!! My beautiful korosi red Tiger!!!! Cheers!
brilliant news you are getting on well with it Miguel. Yes, this bike does reward you with a fantastic ride. May you enjoy many more miles on it.
This bike is amazing, I have a TIGER model 2018. I love all the technologies and how it is super safe. The engine is perfect! there's no vibration at all in any RPM! the way the bike dumps the torque on the wheels is exciting! the only thing to say to Tiger 1200 owners is that they should be careful about it stopping, due to the engine's Center of Gravity being higher, when the bike is stopped, with little angle of inclination of the bike to any side, even a person in great physical condition can drop the bike on the ground, because the weight increases exponentially as a little more angle is added to left or right and the legs do not have gallows to keep the bike in place. but when on the move, the bike is perfect and super safe, very stable! then the little weight problem when the bike is stopped goes unnoticed. the bike is perfect! state of the art! congratulations to TriumphT
Adriano Barbieri - day it as you see it Adriano 👏🏻👏🏻.
Looks ideal I'm slow to find this video but hey hum. Excellent video I like the honesty and the light handed advice.
Cheers Neil, I drew it out a little too much perhaps but still have the bike and feel the same way about it.
7,000 perfect miles so far on my 2019. I spent the extra money for a 72mo warranty so I'm sure mine will not have any issues till month 73.
Nelson Ashbrook - month 73, guaranteed! :-)
Yes, the comfort on my XCA is wonderful, and being comfortable on a bike is a major Plus. Love the power of the engine so much that I don't like ridding my street triple 675 any more, it just feels so under powered and revs out every gear so fast. I'm on the balls of my feet with the XCA seat in the low position and I am sure that's going to bite me in the ass one day. Great ending to the video with the road ending at the water.👍 I'm surprised you don't crash more often with all those wet roads, glad you saved it when you got squirrely there. Have fun and be safe.
Cheers Mark. I only have a 29" leg and ended up fitting the Lust Racing 20mm lowering kit, very glad I did. If I purchased another T12 I would go for the XRx Low. I rode one and it was quite a different experience. Watch my "temporarily lowering ride height" video for help at slow speeds/parking etc. As for the wet roads - they come with the territory, you just got to get used to it! Modern tyres are great though compared to when I first started riding. Thanks for commenting.
Nicely done!!!
Thanks Mark
2018 tiger 1200 xrt with 15,000 miles. No problems as of yet. Been bullet proof! Only thing I had was the can come loose as you did. Great video!! Hated the Metzler. Have Dunlop now, much quieter!
SinisterSwami 1 - yes, I was glad to change my front tyre out. That can problem seemed quite common for some reason. Now my issue is fixed I’m expecting the rest of this bike to be bulletproof (I hope)!
I've got the XRT 1200 and agreed with you 100% with the front tire so so bloody noisy, greetings from Australia
Kanguro Salvadoreño - I have the Bridgestone A41 on, good solution and much better than the original but may go Bridgestone T31 next to see if that is even better.
I just ordered an XRX low. I am 5'7"with 31 inside leg and i could just about flat foot it. Test rode it and was afraid of its weight on paper, but amazed at its smooth, comfortable stability
Joanna Daley - congrats Joanna, great choice. I also think the mid range bike is the better value too.
Great video Terry, I agree with everything you said. I’ve got a 2018 XRT 6500mls. Had one spot and an indicator swapped cause of moisture but otherwise all good. The biggest weakness on the bike is me, slow speed I am still improving but it will bite as I found out when I dropped it after one week. Got on it and it rolled off the stand 🙄 Learnt my lesson and now leave it in gear and use then front brake when getting on.
Overall I love it, best of all it’s not a GS and I like that.
Thanks for saying so Michael. Yes, I dropped mine at 1mph too but the engine bars did the job along with my left pannier. Now I have lowered mine by 20mm I have to be a little more careful about parking as well. Yep, front brake for me too just to be sure!
This bike is a heavy beast at slow speeds. I did a Motorrad level 1 off-roading course with a buddy (he had a 2014 BMW R1200GS) and I can say I went down a few times. The Tiger is a difficult bike for technical slow speed stuff. It really helps to be tall and throw your weight big time to off-set that top heaviness (I am 6 feet tall and 200 pounds). Very happy with the SW Motech upper guards that I installed to my Tiger. They protected the bike 100%.
Hi Terry, great video as always, I've got the Alpine SE, has all the bells and whistles apart from the heated seats and fog lights. Is the heated rider seat worth having? Some say it doesn't get very warm.
Cheers Andrew, sorry for the late reply. Not worth having unless you get it for cheap, It is a bit mediocre. I would rather invest in a heated vest.
I am 5'8" with a 30" inseam. I created a custom rider mode and set the suspension to off road leaving all other settings as in on road. This lowered the bike making it easier for me to get on and off. If I want to, I can still set it back to rider when I know I am not going to be stopping much. If I am going to be in town, I just set it back to my custom rider mode. I think I need to change tires as you suggested because there is an awful roar coming up in front of the tank at highway speeds.
Jet Taylor - good idea Jet, I made a video on that exact same lowering feature of the TSAS. You are a little compromised in that you have increased the trail but no biggie at low road speeds.
Great review i did 22000 miles on a 2016 xca... not one issue ... loved it heavy to move when the engines off but the weight disappeared once it was moving....
I'm two years in on this now and love a full day in the saddle, as you say, once moving the weight is not a feature. Just seen spy shots breaking on the next generation, the weight and its distribution will be interesting.
So, I am terrible, but usually what I do, and what I am doing currently is, I decide what bike I want, and then I watch videos and celebrate all the good points and dismiss the bad points. I reckon I just don't use my head when I pick a bike I use my heart. Good vid, great info.
Thanks for the comment. You do have a good methodology really. The trouble with forums and videos is they always bring out the worst and you are right to look for the positives. My bikes problems are not a true reflection of most peoples ownership experience. I would still stress though that this is not a bike to be sitting on unless you can flat foot it. The run out editions are great value too.
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff Thanks Terry, I am shopping for an XCA currently, it will be my Fifth Triumph. What can I say I'm a Triumph guy. I am 6'2" and over 14 stone, so the size of the bike doesn't concern me. I am in Denver Colorado so outdoors gravel fire roads etc, is the main thing and then long mile munching in comfort is number 2. I love the look of this bike and should be on one here in a couple months. Thanks again.
@@larrysupersport Brilliant, enjoy it when you get it!
Love the way you mounted the sat nav. If you hadn't mentioned it, I would have thought that it was a factory fitted mounting.
There are some real fancy solutions, I'm a cheapskate!
I have the exact same bike i love it but i have had an issue with the gas tank lock it seems that when i insert the key it does not want to turn no matter how much i joggle it, but after taking it apart after i got the gas cap open, i cleaned the lock really god and no issues so far, and i must say I love my bike it is an incredible machine and much cheaper than a 1250GS, great video Brother and be safe riding!!
If that’s your only issue you have done well. Overall this is a brilliant bike and I think generally very reliable. It’s superb WP suspension is it’s outstanding feature along with that engine. Ride safe! 👍
Great advice. Very useful in my choice of bikes. It’s a really bad mistake that Triumph don’t have a SatNav as standard on all its touring bikes, which the Tigers are!
Everybody agrees with you Jim 🙄
Hello Terry, loved the video! Would you know the model of the extensions of the plastic extension of the handguards and the SW bag on your back seat? Thank you very much in advance ;)
Hello, the bag on the back is just the SW-Motech tail bag, that’s all they call it. Had it six years now and still first class. They have recently replaced it with the “Pro” version which is just little improvements all round. Not cheap but super quality, I highly recommend it. I use it on three different bikes. I don’t have any plastic extensions on the hand guards so I can’t help you there I’m afraid. Cheers 🍻
Great review thanks, do they all come with the Arrow exhaust stock, all videos I see have it?
I had a Scrambler 1200XE and I just hate keyless ignition 9specially the Triumph one, its just bad, I think it interferes with air...). It's trying to fix a problem that wasn't one, but creating a new problem.
If you've ridden Super Tenere, I'd be curious to know which suspensions you find the most comfortable.
Cheers. The XRt.and XCa come with the Arrow as standard. The sound is very similar to stock though, they are lighter though. I’m four years with this bike now, still hate the keyless, as you say, a solution for a problem that never existed.
Grumpy cnt on a great bike!
I own one... I'm not flat footed, and its fkg hard work, but the fantastic out weighs the top heavy terror!
great review Terry Cox.
Oh, ta very much!
Thanks for the video! I have the version just before yours… “the last explorer”. Still have it, will never sell it! Absolutely love it. May I ask what is that you have on your finger? What does it do? Thank you and hope you are still enjoying your bike
That is a “Bob Heath Visor Wipe”. I use it in wet weather and it is a handy wiper blade for your visor. They have been around a long time and are quite low cost. Always buy the largest one they do, the others are too tight 😀. Cheers!
@@stevedriver1376 I will not sell mine, ever. I’m off to a trip tomorrow with it. 50K miles only had 1 problem ever (clutch gasket) that was honored by warranty. My model is the XCA fully equipped. Triumphs are so reliable and the engine is simply a jewel and really full of personality. I think 6.5k on this bike is a bit bette3r than brand new. You have all the technology but the quick shifter and the electronic display so that would be: dynamic suspension, rider modes, cruise control, ride by wire, Abs and traction control, electric windshield, heated everything, fog lights, arrow pipe) and… having a very handsome bike with the most personality of all! Good luck!
The biggest issue is it is heavy, heavy, heavy, heavy when moving it about. I got the lowered version so your advice regarding flat footing is spot on.
Dead right David, if I was buying again I would get the low version too.
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff You definitely feel more secure. I had the XCA and I dropped it a couple of times as I was a bit tiptoe so I swapped it in for the XRX low with spoked wheels etc.
Interesting you are in Ireland and are English, I am Irish and am in England. Ride safe
David Harrington - you too. (Mother’s maiden name is O’Keeffe so that’s the link!)
jai yen yen but its how the weight is distributed that’s the problem. As a triple it’s all high up.
I did not say I had issues but you need to be aware when moving it when not running.
Same bike, triumph does not support warranty well. If I can solve the heat off the engine I may keep longer but next bike won't be a triumph. They just don't give a shit so why should I.
Great review sir. Had a testride on one, fantastic bike to ride. However l did buy myself a 800xc that fits my need better. What an engien it is.
Someday l may upgrade to the 1200, but now that 800 do the job with bravur. Ride safe.
Toby 750 - kind words, 800 no lesser bike and could of easily been my choice as it is so capable. Maybe the new 900 for me when I’ve got “ continent crushers “ out of my system.
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff l think the new 900 is a great bike... Here in Stavanger Norway they have sold out. I do commute a lot, and the 800xc do that very well. It carries luggage and pillion with ease. The tripple engien are very powerful.
2018 XRT here with 23K miles and so far so good. Still on the original brakes, 17K on the OEM tires which I changed out for Continental Road Attack 3, really nice upgrade. I do have Rox bar risers and put bigger/lower foot pegs. I have looked at other bikes but I keep coming back to the Tiger for ticking all of my boxes.
vsteel - I think I recognise the name! 17k on the OEM tyres, incredible! I’m only getting 5k miles out of my fronts and same for rear pads. I ride steady enough too, my weight might have an impact 🤔. Now if we can just get out and ride the bloody things, this lovely weather here is torture. Good luck.
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff You probably have seen me around the Explorer forum. :) I have noticed that tire life really depends on where you are at. I think the US has smoother (less like sandpaper) roads or more tire friendly because parts of Europe seem to have really short life on tires comparatively. The roads in a geographic location seems to be a big factor and lots of people in the same area have similar tire life. For the record I am 6'1" and 275lbs and lots of highway miles.
@@vsteel yes, that's where I know you from. Totally agree on the tyres and the location, I think that's it.
I enjoyed the gorgeous weather.. ohh my bad wrong video😂😂. To be honest I wanted to buy the T12 but BMW won me over... Triumph is a great bike. Good video there bud although couldn't see much in the fog...hahahah just pulling yer leg here. I'm from Greece so... Safe travels mate
Vromo Gata - BMW make fine bikes, you gotta buy what takes your fancy. I’m looking forward to the spring where I can maybe just get the rain without the fog. :-). Thanks for watching, happy trails.
Great Review ,Spot on with your The Ugly if you cant get your feet down flat dont buy it . I had a lowered Tiger 1200 Exporer XRT loved the bike 7000 miles in one year but couldnt hoid the Weight when Parking up . only dropped it once but lost my confidence when out on my own . Didnt have any Problems but found the Panniers very Wide when Filtering Especially in the UK or mainly Motorways M25 /M6 etc Bought a Ducati Multistrada 950S instead Very happy with the 25 KG weight Saving .
I considered a Ducati 950 (s model wasn't out early 2018) in my very early thoughts of replacing my Africa Twin but just shied off because I wasn't keen on the seat to peg ratio, a bit too tucked up for me. A fine bike in all other respects and well priced I think. The Tiger is a tall bike and yes heavy compared to the Duke. At least you got to scratch that itch and find out what you really like.
Owned a 800xc great bike but found that abit top heavy mainly due to the 21inch front wheel and did manage to drop it a few times during slow speed manoeuvring. Had an issue with gear selector shaft triumph customer service was terrible, but got sorted once I emailed Mr Bloor. Now own a 2nd gen VFR800X Crossrunner great bike owned it for 3 years now only real gripe is suspension really jiggly so hoping to upgrade it very soon as I've been told it'll totally transform it 🤞 Forgot to mention when you were talking about other shaft drive bikes, you forgot the the vfr1200x Crosstourer 🤪
Some machine that vfr1200x Crosstourer but no cruise control and heavy on the fuel I believe? I rode the Tiger 900GT Pro and the smaller 19" wheel really suited it. I had an Africa Twin with the 21" front wheel and I wasn't mad on it to be honest. A nice Wilbers 640 with remote preload will sort out that VFR800X, a real quality shock built for your weight and riding preference.
Thanks a bunch!
Cheers . 👍
I HAVE 12500KM ON MY 2018 XRT. You pretty well said everything about the bike that i also noticed. Especially the seat and tyre(tire) sections. Thanks.
Oh good to get some input Mark thanks, hope you're having a blast on the T12.
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff Just ordered the headlight guard from Triumph. Might think about low seat, i"m have a 32 inch inseam!
@@markgatward8765 - have you tried the stock seat in the low position yet? Makes a good bit of difference but you do lose some seat to peg comfort. I would of thought you’d be fine at 32”?
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff its at the lowest. Still one foot down.
@@markgatward8765 I had to put a 20mm lowering kit on mine and glad I did but I only have a 29" leg. I'm surprised you are not flat footing ?
Thank you Terry for your honesty , I had a somilar issue with my brand new 800 XRX 2016, sold it after 10 month and 10k km. bought a VFR1200 2017 brand new, 1 year, 15k km 0 issue
kenny master - good to hear the VFR is behaving Kenny. There’s nothing worse than being dissatisfied with hi-value items. I was smarting for some time I’ll tell you! 😀
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff notes that the VFR also has flaws, nobody's perfect!
I have an 18 Bonneville T120 and I've been noticing after about 150 miles, I'm feeling exhausted and cramped. I just rode 280 miles today and feel completely beat down. I'm 6 ft. about 32" inseam and I'm wondering if the bike may be too small after all. When I first got it, I did a 4 day Big Bend National Park ride (Texas) which was about 300-400 miles per day, now I can't do nearly that. I've installed Triumph comfort gel seat/ TEC front springs/Fox piggy back rear shocks / Dart windscreen. We get ALOT of wind in Texas and it really causes fatigue. Ive been looking at the Tiger 1200 Alpine and BMW 1200/1250 GS. 20K seems like a lot for a bike....until you start looking at HD street glides. I'm 46, but after today's ride, I feel like a grandpa that needs to ice down his butt bones.
The Big Empty _ this bike handles wind fantastically and just pushes through. Comfort is it’s forte. I suspect the BMW will be the same. Yes, a lot of money, perhaps consider a second hand 2018 XRt or XCa which will be a bargain compared to a 2018 BMW? Some people just don’t like the Tiger’s top heavy nature and sell on, there always seems to be plenty of 2 year or 1 year old Tiger 1200’s out there. As long as you can totally flat foot the bike, don’t buy if you can’t.
I'm riding a 2018 XRT and i absolutely agree to your opinion and your experience with the big Tiger. Both the pros and the cons. One drawback i think you have forgotten: The really poor torque at lower revs for such a big engine. Although it has gotten better since the last service software update at 16000 km, the torque up to 4000 revs for 1200cc is still more than unsatisfactory .
Yes, I think that it is definitely a characteristic of this engine but I think it was intentionally designed as so. I am only guessing, but I would say the Triumph Engineers wanted to make this bike with smooth and progressive power delivery across a wide range of revs so as 1) not to stress the shaft drive and 2) perform well as a touring/pillion perch. I rode the 1200 Scrambler when it came out and I swear my arms were an inch longer when I got off! That vividly highlights the exact point you are making.
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff At first, sorry for my not so proper english, i'm german. I'm afraid the reason for the weak torque is that Triumph engineers didn't handle the switch to Euro 4 as well. If you remember the first version of the Explorer, it still had a lot of power even at low speeds. So I don't think that was done with the 2018 model to protect the shaft drive. I also believe that the wonderful smooth throttle response is a very big advantage of this engine, but regardless of that, the engine should just be more powerful at low revs. This is particularly noticeable when you are out and about in the Alps. I hope that I can change something about the Tiger's mapping when the warranty has expired.
Incidentally, I had the same experience as you with the 1200 Scrambler. That bike pulls like a tractor. ;-)
But none the less, I believe we both made the right choice with the Tiger 1200. The comfort and capabilities over long distances are almost unmatched on this motorcycle.
Have fun on two wheels and lots of wonderful experiences!
Greetings
Wilfried
@@vidright Cheers Wilfried - two up and fully loaded you definitely need to give it a bit of the wrist alright. The comfort though, yes, superb. They did lighten the flywheel on the 2018 model onwards and I wonder if the 2012 model onwards felt like they had more low down oomph with the heavier one? It's all relative though, you should try my 1995 Daytona 1200 you just can't use the power of the thing it's all at the top end. Lower down the revs it feels much weaker than the Tiger. The positive thing is that we own them so all good!
Probably one of the best reviews I have watched I’ve already bought an xca1200 and luv it just a couple of questions does it ever stop raining I’m lucky to get three wet days a year what brand of satnav are you using last question what was that thing you put on your index finger on your left hand with the red cord thanks from Australia
Many thanks Rodney. Yes it does stop raining but if you limited your riding to sunny days here you wouldn't be on the road much! You just have to go with it. My Sat Nav is the new(ish) Tom Tom Rider 550. A nice size and not too big. I love the wireless route downloads and wireless updates on it. The index finger thing is a "visor wipe". It is a rudimetary windscreen wiper for your helmet visor in the rain. Quite common in the UK/Ireland and they have been around for decades.
Thanks Terry great review Made me think about a tiger now with electric issues as was going second hand. I know what you mean about indicators I leave mine all the time be the death of me. So Seen Bikeviz do a light or an audible device if you prefer but I have the music on hear nowt
Steve RR - cheers Steve. I rode a Honda ST1100 with repeater indicators which I found dead handy. At least these self cancel.
Good review. Surprised to see you end up in my local area. Where'd you camp after that?
Jason Spollen - Cloondara, by the lock opposite the pub. About 11-12 of us in the end.
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff Ahh. Where you stopped in the end looked like a town's land called Liss that looks out on Lough Ree towards Inchmore island. Thought you might have camped near there. Close by my home 😉
@@jasonspollen8998 After ripping out my GoPro power lead that was the end of my filming. After this I hit Barley Harbour just a bit further up and broke the Trangia out for soup and bread. It was perfect timing as the rain stopped for that and I was the only person there. The final stretch to Cloonlara was without the rain which was welcome.
Ive stayed in Loughree campsite nice spot
Nice video I won't sell my T1200XCA soon and at this stage my ass won't be sitting on GSA seat soon. What is that plastic thing you put over the glove on your index finger for?
It is a "Bob Heath Visor Wipe". A little wiper blade for your visor. These have been selling for decades in these parts, I love the little thing.
I have an xrt 1200 and I find the keyless useless too the first key stopped working properly which was a pain, had to wait a few weeks for the dealer to change. Love the bike and the quickshifter is great. I have a 28 1/2 inch inseem and just manage the bike with the low seat thought about the low version, lifting off the side stand and driving is OK however its a thought manhandling the beast out of the garage, went to the effort yesterday though and loved every minute on the bike so worth it.
Malcolm Muirhead - yes, once your riding all is forgiven. I lowered mine 20mm as I have a 29” leg but wanted to keep the seat peg ratio the same by using the seat in the high position.
I changed the handle bars on mine and it was a huge difference.
Philip Parana - yes, I put 20mm risers on mine and those extra few mm just got rid of a bit of shoulder strain.
honest review! good stuff!
What would you go for next? Same? the new Africa Twin? Cheers!
Sza Esz - ooh, tough question! Not an Africa Twin, I had one and found the seat uncomfortable and the engine a bit asthmatic when loaded up. BMW don’t specifically do it for me but I acknowledge their popularity, could be temped to a Multistrada but I just don’t know. If I thought I was just going to go for sunny weekends on country roads I wouldn’t mind a Honda CB1100EX, a lazy lump!
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff I had 2 Africa Twins. Both needed dash change, injector change in the first 6month if riding it. I don't know what to get next, but i don't want to buy another honda that's for sure.
Sza Esz - oh, that legendary Honda reliability crown slipping? You’ve been very unlucky. It’s an exciting time when choosing a replacement though, enjoy the process!
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff it's a common fault known by honda... instead of recall yhey redesigned the whole thing from scrach for 2020. I'm not sure though...
Curious what is that on ur left finger that U put over ur glove?
Jefferson Nyborg - it’s a “Bob Heath Visor Wipe” which have been around a long time in these parts. Essentially it’s a little wiper blade to clear your visor in the rain. A quick swipe and your good to go. You wouldn’t use it every 5 seconds, just when you want or need a clearer view of the road/situation ahead. I always ride with one in the winter.
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff thanks Brother. Good to know.
If you were to buy gloves from the german manufacturer HELD, the "rain wiper" is an integral part of the gloves.
Can you use the clutch as normal on a motorcycle equipped with a quick shifter?
You can yes. You are not forced to use it at all and there are circumstances where I might not use it. You can also go into the menu and switch off the quick-shifter functionality altogether on this bike.
Thank you very much for your response. I have been thinking of buying a Triumph Tiger 1200. I am waiting for the 2021s to arrive at the USA To make my decision.
@@rarsenio1 - I think there is a new model 1200 coming out in 2021 so if you go for this version (Gen 3, 2018 and on) make sure you get a good deal.
What's the vibration like are those foam grips you have?
Martin Cornish - vibration is at a minimum. I do have grip puppies but not because of that. They just increase my grip radius making it easier on my hands. They do make the heated grips a bit less effective but the heat does get through after a period of time.
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff Thanks for the feedback Terry.
Great review Terry ... I have the Speed Triple RS and the first time I went out on it I left the house , up the road, onto the dual carriageway and up to (legal😊) speed ASAP only to be greeted with the “key fob out of range” message ! I wondered if I’d left it on the wall at home, would the bike grind to a halt .... I pulled into a lay-by and checked my pocket where, of course, the key fob was ! I’ve learned to ignore it now (after checking my pocket or tank bag twice before each ride) but it’s a bit annoying .... almost as annoying as still having to use the key to put petrol in on a keyless bike ! Do love the RS though and the Tiger looks impressive too 👍🏻
spiderdave5777 - I have a “tile” on my key fob I’m so bloody paranoid about losing it now. I went to the scrambler 1200 launch a while back and couldn’t help a wry smile when I saw key fob out of range on that. It was in my hand and I was sitting on the bike!
Terry Cox 😂👍🏻 last time it happened to me was at Assen in September as we returned to the bikes to head for the ferry ! My pal was more nervous about it than I was although if that had been the first time I may not have been so calm 👍🏻😂🏍 great review on the Tiger mate ...
spiderdave5777 - cheers for that, kind words. No keyless on the new 900 I see. 🤔
Terry Cox mmmm 😋
jai yen yen - “eeh, I used to dream of having keyed ignition, you lucky, lucky bastard!”
hi can you write what is this bag in the passenger seat? it's great for lonely riding
These are from LOMO in Scotland which do a whole range of very low cost bike bags. This 40L roll bag was only £14.50! www.lomo.co.uk/
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff looks like a tankbag, (8:21)
Egon30HW - oh that, sorry! It is an SW-Motech (Bags Connection) tailbag. Pricey but great quality with an internal waterproof bag and an expanding top. This is in its most compact state.
Easy fix for the clutch is aftermarket lever that can be had for just over £20 (a set inc brake) from somewhere like ebay, you can pay more for branded but the one's from china work just fine. Best money I spent on mine and did it within a few weeks of having it. Just couldn't live with it, try as I might. Total transformation!
Mark Mundy - Hi Mark, yes, good advice on the lever, I have been toying with the idea for a while. Now you say it’s worked well for you I should pull the trigger.
100% yes. Wider range of adjustment so you can set the bite point where you like it, I always felt it was way to far out from the bars at the end of its stroke no matter what I did with the adjuster and the thing that bugged me the most. And also gives a better take up of drive, more progressive. Didn't know if after market levers would be the fix so got a cheap set off ebay and was an instant fix, and have to say I was very happy with the quality for such a low price. Almost 2 years on they still look like new and have been floorless. Pop this number in ebay search. 302728913757
Mark Mundy - you’re very good, thanksMark.
looks like it will have to be branded, maybe Pazzo, all the low cost ones are Gen 1 and 2 only, not Gen 3. Lowest I can find is €90 for one clutch lever but it might be worth it.
They fit the Gen 3, I know guy's who have put then on theirs. Says in the add 16/17 but also fit 18 on.
it isn't only the midday sun that mad dogs and englishmen venture out in! Camping in January! I am interested in how the new Tiger 900 turns out, though not seen any reviews for the damm thing, yet. I'm also weighing up ,the scrambler 1200, and the Guzzi 850TT ( yeah, it lacks the power of this and the BMW GS, but it'll be more than enough for me, as I just returned to biking after 30 years away. I bought an old BMW f650 on a whim, purely for the summer to come, but I am finding more and more excuses to go and ride it, so am now planning on getting probably my last bike ever). I'm even considering the Rocket 3. Why not? I'll be dust soon enough, and the few wintery trips on my f650 made me realise how good it is to ride a bike, again.
BTW, what made you choose this over the BMW GS1250?
The Tiger 900 isn't released until March so a bit early for the journo reviews. You'll get some good info on it at the London Motorcycle show in a couple of weeks time though. As for the Rocket 3, if it floats your boat....you can't take it with you and all that so why not? If you are done with very long distance days then the Tiger 1200 might not be for you, I think it would be wasted as an occasional bike. If you want something to stir the soul for a day or weekend out then the Scrambler or Rocket 3 gets my vote. The Guzzi does take a unique angle on things and a type of bike I might buy one day, just not now. If it's your last bike definitely buy with your heart, don't buy anything boring! The GS, hmm, a great bike I am sure, the brand just doesn't fully gel with me and everyone has one! If there is one BMW I would have though it is the racer, drop dead gorgeous but totally impractical by all accounts.
To sort out the clutch. Remove the clutch leaver. Unclip rhe rotator. And file down no1 to the circle in the middle with a file. Replace it back and have excellent clutch response. Just watch out for the spring and ball bearing when removing the rotator
I ended up with some Evotech dog leg levers which brought the bite point in play with a more closed hand rather than outstretched fingers, did the job but thanks for the tip.
As far as the key fob interference from the LEDs, cheap LEDS can put out a lot of EMI. I put cheap LEDs in for the reverse lights of my VW Golf and they create a lot of interference with the radio. Even the strongest stations are blocked when they're lit. I'm not surprised they'd cause problems with the key fob.
Paul Wilson - good to know Paul. You’d think being LED they would be low power emitters but it just goes to show. Cheers for info.
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff My understanding is it's really the driver circuit and a result of the way LEDs have a very high frequency pulse. Also, I should have said RFI instead of EMI.
I’ve got an 2018 Tiger 1200. Gearbox issues from the start. Kept finding neutral and finally had the gearbox rebuilt at 10000kms. It was off the road 3 months. Now I have massive backlash clunking in the box at low speeds. Apparently it’s normal according to the dealer. Also had all locks replace due to the fuel cap not unlocking.
Sorry... commenting as I’m watching- the quickshift in mine is shit. Great when it works but at times it’s violent, crunches when shifting up and gets stuck in gear. Dealer told me use it under hard acceleration only. Not cruising.
@@korenm9377 It does work better with hard acceleration but I find I don't have to try too hard on mine to get a smooth upshift. It has never been violent though, I don't like the sound of your setup. :-(
Oh god, that doesn't sound good at all. There should not be massive backlash in this drivetrain, that cannot be normal. Has the previous failing gearbox worn or damaged part of the shaft drive mechanism I wonder?
Its going back in because it’s got an oil leak now and the hand grips have perished. They’re going to have another look at it but they already said it’s normal. I’m writing a massive email to Triumph Australia about the issues. My fear is it’s going to shit itself when the warranty run out. Mind you I love the bike. It’s comfortable, handles well. I can keep up with sports bikes around windy roads. It’s my daily rider.
@@korenm9377 Sorry to hear that, that's a great shame. But as you've seen, I know how you feel! The very best of luck with it.
Would the standard windshield be good wind protection for a 6 feet tall rider?
I am 6ft and at most speeds it is very good. This is both the standard screen on the midrange bikes and the slightly larger screen on the XRt and XCa. However at highway speeds it does benefit greatly with an extra screen lip. See one of my other videos on this. It is a significant difference and much quieter.
Thank you very much.
Hey Terry! I've been asking this a lot and everywhere but everyone has different opinion, so I cant make a decission.
What tyre pressures do you run on your bike???
I used to go with the factory recommended 2.2/2.7bar, but the tyres wear unevenly on the sides. Now I go with 36/42psi and the bike is easier to control but is kind of jumpy over potholes. Cant decide really. I have done 42,000 miles for 18 months so far but there's still things I cant figure out.
Triumph have gone to 32/39 but I don't know why, it really doesn't work for me, especially on the front. I have gone the more usual 36/42 after 1) tyre fitter recommended that 2) Triumph dealer tech recommended that and 3) Bridgestone technical services recommended it (and I specifically stated that Triumph’s recommendation was 32/39) and 4) most importantly it feels much better to me. I would love to know Triumph’s reasoning. If you look at the manual, on the XR model, ion the image of the dash showing the TPM display it even shows 36/42? I find the front quite vague at 32 when heavily loaded.
Thanks for that.
I missed your comment on "jumpy over potholes". Yes, the extra pressure does make it a little firmer of course, down one notch on the damping to compensate maybe? I also have a Daytona 1200 (1995) and the difference on the front between 3-4 PSI is marked, quite a harsh ride at 36/42 even with all damping set to softest.
Maybe my bum is a bit too sensitive, but I find it better with soft damping when the bike is light and harder when it's loaded. Also, I say it's jumpy but I have an SV650 too and after I ride it for a few days, going back to the Tiger is like going from VW Polo to a Bentley. 😁
I run the Triumph recommended 32/39 psi. All good I find. I am hesitant to run 36 psi in the front simply because I ride this bike very hard in the turns and I want to maximize front traction (avoid a low side). I doubt that the 4 extra psi will compromise that, but I am not willing to take that chance. I actually push this bike faster in turns than I could my 2014 Yamaha FJR1300ES. However, the FJR is a much faster bike coming out of the turns and for wide open acceleration.
PS Just for You Guys who are a Bit Tippy Toe Lust Racing Do A Lowering Kit and a Lowering Sensor Link rod For the XRT models You can drop the Fork stantions through 12 mm and slightly move the the side stand file the lug back about 2 mm so it comes back further , Works a Treat ,Found it made Sense For about £100.00
Eric Wheatcroft - yep, good point. I posted a video on that, I fitted it to mine. The same kit is good for all TSAS equipped Gen 2 & 3 models.
Eric Wheatcroft Me too, identical mods. Problem solved. Cheap too.
mine has 7500 miles on it with no problems at all so far, all the mk's 1-3 have engine heat issues some people who live in hot climates cannot ride their bikes at certain times of the year they have said. it is very comfortable, handles well, looks 1000 times better than an ugly gs, i have done a few 600-1000 mile days even in quite bad weather no worries, sort the heat thing out and a bigger tank for the mk4 and i will buy one..
Looks like Triumph have come up with you wish on the Mk 4!
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff i know sods law, gone to the dark side r1250gsa hp , perhaps triumph will show them at the london show february.
@@tommillar2821 GSA the best seller for a reason, enjoy. They had them in the Birmingham show so you would expect they would make it to London. They look very well but very much premium priced.
I wear earplugs when I ride my tiger 1200, and when I am on a quiet Country Road I can hear what sounds like something dragging, or to describe it better like a bearing that's no good. You mentioned that these stock tires are noisy, I wonder if that's what I'm hearing.
I almost guarantee it is the tyres. The heavy front end takes its toll. 100% road based tyres seem better and other 90/10 tyres are better than OEM. My Bridgestone A41 are better but still make that noise but at a lower level.
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff Thanks for the info, sometimes we can overlook the obvious, now I can stop fixating on something wrong with the front end.
Hello from Canada, quick intro. Had a 1995 Triumph 900 Sprint Sport low low mileage had been in storage for about 7 years. Anyways when running the power and torque from the over designed engine from Cosworth was amazing. Faults, carburetors a total PITA plus getting at them and the air filter and God forbid the plugs or valves. Engine won't start unless ECU saw 12volts while cranking, so a couple of days off a maintainer it ain't starting up. Whinny gearbox and the worst seat for numb bum. I held out waiting for the new Trophy and what a let down. So disgusted I sold the Triumph and bought an 07 BMW K1200LT. Fab bike great mpg and comfort ride and weather protection it came with a Unigo trailer for camping and long haul touring. Now closing in on 66 years young the 850lb wet beemer is a little to much to handle especially at low speed traffic situations. Anything past 10 degree lean either way and it's the Titanic all over again but once moving she glides along and the twisties is awesome just keep the rpm up high where she likes to be and the ride is fantastic. But I now fancy some off road adventures that asphalt roads can't give. Watching you're video here the motor on this bike sounds so beautiful and I can't hear that irritating high pitched whistle from the gearbox. But that said your scaring me off with the issues you've had and some of the other owners in the comment section. The Trophy had horrible electronic issues I heard from the local stealership and servicing costs are crazy expensive. The first 1000klm service was a staggering $750 and that's after just paying for the damn thing. I wonder if I shouldn't be looking for a Japanese bike, they seem more reliable and have more coverage in North American continent for servicing and parts. I want to fly the British flag here as I'm a Brit myself but Triumph despite what they have achieved since the late 1990's they seem lacking in quality control and Heaven knows what will happen now,they are partnered with Baja in India if you doubt me checkout the Royal Enfields they put out for quality. Anyway loved the review, very concise, the bike sounds awesome but if weight and top heaviness is equivalent to my current ride ill have to look at other models. God bless from Canada 🇨🇦 and keep the rubber side down.
Richard Short - if weight is an issue I might be tempted to avoid the T12 if I was you. I have had issues sure but I do think I have been a little unlucky. You sound like you were very unlucky though I must say! It looks like a new Tiger 12xx is not long away, maybe another 12 months, it will be interesting to see how that fares? The best of luck choosing new wheels, if you choose it it’s not a wrong choice.
Terry Cox Thanks Terry 👍🏻
Been happy with the Torrance Tires. First set had some noise and second set has been completely quiet.
Michael Schneider - that’s interesting your second set are better? Unfortunately for the manufacturer first impressions count.
Terry Cox super quiet. No noise whatsoever. Amazing really. I bump up pressure to 40 front and 42 rear. Should get around 12k miles or better. I will buy them again.
Michael Schneider - that is a high enough pressure on the front. Having said that I run the more regular 36 PSI, still up on Triumph’s 32 PSI.
Terry Cox I bumped it up 2psi from recommended psi. When carrying a load it helps.
@@michaelschneider3171 recommended psi at the front is 32, you are 8 PSI over at 40 no?
Just traded in my 2010 Tiger 1050 for a 2019 Tiger XRT, winter in Canada, no riding till spring. I am 5 foot 8, was tipping toe, in parking lots, moving the bike. Found the old bike, ok. Thanks for an extensive review !
Mark Gatward - cheers Mark. Enjoy the bike when the thaw comes! Don't forget to use off-road rider mode in parking lots to give yourself a firmer footing.
I can relate... in Ottawa. It's going to be a long winter. Probably end of April before I get the Tiger out again.
@@alanhache502 - it is strange for us in these parts to relate to your weather conditions and non bike use. Bar the odd year we can pretty much drive all year round as long as you are willing to put up with rain.
Hi Mark,
I live in New Zealand and am trading my (very much loved) 2017 Tiger sport 1050 for the Tiger 1200 XRT. Main reason being that I do get onto the occasional stretch of gravel road and even if it is well graded, the 1050 is just not that suited for it. I’ve done 25K over 2.5 years of which 90% on sealed roads. I am 5 ft 9 and and as long as I am mindful of how and where to park, I have not had any issues with the height and/or the weight distribution of the bigger Tigers.
Happy and safe riding!
Terry: I really enjoyed your review, - very honest and informative
Johann Oosthuizen - thanks Johann, very kind to say so.
With less then 10k miles on the bike, the dealership in the states told me the bike needs a new engine and transmission... 2018 tiger 1200 XRx I bought it new July with 25 miles on it. Waiting on corporate to make a decision. Oh and it has a death wobble issue, but that's on hold at the moment.
Vincent - Jeez that’s bad. Did the dealer PDI it properly or screw up the first oil change? (Not that they would admit it I’m sure). The very best of luck, wishing you a speedy outcome.
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff well the dealer has done all the work on it (because warranty) but according to them something went wrong in the transmission and slowly ground the gears away till it popped, during the oil draining there was way to much metal shavings in the oil pan.
Vincent - that’s a great shame.
Great to hear all the real world stuff about this bike ( totally honest) not like the bullshit from journalists. Thanks so much for sharing all this with us .👍
Nice review. I like your tail pack, can you provide the supplier name and model name/number? Thanks in advance!
Rob B - it’s an SW-Motech tailbag, pricey but a nice bit of kit. Waterproof inner bag and expandable.
I'm from aus have a 2018 xcx hamered it from new lots of gravel roads original tyres great all service's most of winges just B.S great 20.000 km original pads etc
Still on my original front pads at 21K Km, on my third set at the rear. That is because I travel a lot around country roads, I have no doubt you can get much more out of a set of pads on the big long roads of Aus. My original front tyre was great handling, just terribly noisy, I can only go on my experience, yours may be different. My winges are mine, they may not be yours of course.
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff Still on the original rear pads after 24,000 kms. I will have a look at mine seeing that I do use my rear brakes a lot for slow speed manoeuvres.
Why didn't you demand a replacement bike? When I managed to blow the engine up on my Sprint - I demanded a replacement - and got it - until mine was back on the road (took ages for Triumph to come up with a new motor) - by that time I'd put 15,000 miles on their demonstrator! Tough!
You can demand all you like but if they keep saying they are going to fix it I have to let them try. The consumer laws are a bit weak after the initial 6 months though and I was in year 2. In many US states I would of qualified for a brand new replacement under the “lemon law” but no such protection here. Disappointed the dealer didn’t offer a loaner though. You are lucky you got a loaner. 👍
My 2018 Tiger 1200 XCA now has 24,000 kms on it and the issues I had or have with the bike are : water in a fog light replaced under warranty, the muffler (can) has been replaced under warranty for moving in the carbon fiber support (scuffing of the can). That is all for warranty issues. The clutch has some minor juddering when cold (at times, not a consistant issue). I ride the bike somewhat hard/aggressively and off-road. No real complaints on my part. Yes the bike is a heavy machine at slow speeds off-road and it is no GS. The quick shifter is butter smooth under hard acceleration and very decent under normal shifting. I don't use the quick shifter for low rpm shifting. There is some heat coming off the bike which can be an issue at slow speeds and in very warm conditions, but I can tolerate it without it being a real problem. On cool days, it is nice to get some warmth. Very comfortable bike and is fast enough for my needs. I come from a Yamaha FJR1300ES and the Triumph is more comfortable for long rides. The only big negative for now, is having to remove the fuel tank for service. What a pain in the behind. Shame Triumph doesn't have OEM cut off valves to avoid spillage. Time will tell if there are any issues with reliability in the next year or two, but for now, I have faith in this bike.
The clutch juddering seems a common complaint, I had it for a short while but it petered out. Muffler, me too, see my other vid. Did your driveshaft housing end up getting marked because of it? The heat has never really impacted me but that's because I live in Ireland, I have no doubt it will affect others in warmer climates. On the tank, well, that's not new, I need to remove it on my 1995 Daytona 1200 for a valve service every 12K miles. Unless at the valve check service interval on the T12 I wouldn't even lift the tank to change the air filter or check the spark plugs (unless I lived in a very dusty environment) because you just know they will be just fine. I'm out of warranty by a couple of days now, hoping mine has settled, pretty sure it has and I have trouble free motoring ahead, fingers crossed!
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff I did see your other video about the can potentially moving. I actually posted a link to your video on two triumph forums so that other users were made aware of the issue (I commented your video too). My driveshaft housing was fine because I still had the rubber piece in place to protect the housing from the center stand. If the can would have moved much more, it could have become an issue certainly. About the fuel tank removal, my air filter was very dirty at the 16,000 kms service so I am glad that I did that. I was actually surprised at how dirty it was. I do ride off-road so anyone just sticking to pavement could probably extend that part of the service to a bit more (air filter, not engine oil). As for the warranty, I ended up taking a 7 year extended warranty from my dealer. I figured that with all the tech on this bike that issues could be a problem and expensive to fix. The warranty covers basically everything from suspension to all electronics including the TFT screen, tranny and engine. I don't normally get extended warranties but coming from a bulletproof Yamaha FJR1300, I had my doubts about the Tiger (new model in 2018).
@@alanhache502 - I am out of my two year warranty now, fingers crossed! Good move on the 7 year warranty, fixing anything electronic now is a major problem for dealers I think. They are often reliant on technicians parts swapping these days. When mine broke down they spent those two months getting parts shipped by Triumph fitted and then figuring out what it might be next when that didn't work. Quite frustration.
Traded mine for the 900 GT Pro. The 1200 was perfect, but too top heavy for me. If I were 6 feet tall and 200 pounds of muscle I’d still own it. (Oh, and it puts out too much heat in summer! That sucked).
The heat thing was very geo dependent, bad for some, irrelevant for others, luckily for me I live in Ireland.😶🌫️🥶. I still have my 1200 and yes, that top heavy weight is it’s Achilles heel. I have ridden the 900 GT and Rally, love them both, real sweet spot bikes, enjoy!
I should have watched this video before i bought, and some of your others!
i'm 5"2, and had just had my Super Tenere written off for me, I came across a beautiful 2016 XRT, i went to see it, and fell in love, i sat on it, but it was on a camber and i could only just reach the floor, not a huge issue, I'm used to that kind of reach, so i bought it, purely with my heart! Tiger was delivered a week later, took it out for a spin, and got stuck at a petrol station, i could not lift it off its stand while sat on it! I've since put lowering links on it, which makes it much more manageable, the bite on the clutch is an absolute b*tch, so new levers are required - time will tell as to whether i made a mistake with this bike!
Oh god, that’s such a shame. I only have a 29” leg and can struggle too sometimes. I hope the lowering kit helps, you must have gone the full 40mm. Take care, hope it works out for you.
2018-2020 have no changes? Wow, good to know. Maybe I can find a used 2018 at a reasonable price.
yes, non at all. There is a couple of special edition models now but it is the same bike, a mid range one with a couple of extras.
be aware that in the heat we have had lately the heat from the engine is very uncomfortable indeed and if you like to get a move on it will drink fuel,believe me..
@@tommillar2821 Interesting, thanks. I ride an air-cooled bike and I have no problems with heat as long as it's moving, in any weather. I've heard about heat issues with Triumphs. Must be a design flaw, honestly. And it's a very good point about fuel consumption, big difference between heavy and middleweight bikes. Although, most people won't ride more than 90 mins on an interstate anyway without a break, so if you're used to filling up every time you stop and don't care about extra cost it's a moot point, I guess.
@@tommillar2821 I'm averaging about 50MPG (Imperial) but I'm no speed demon.
I also have the XRX low Flat Foot Lots to Digest in this Video but Your Right on about this bike being a Beast in all weather & length of time your on it :) One other Question is TPS ( Tire Pressure sensor ) do yo have one ?
I do and i have had three punctures in two years and it has provided early warning. Replacement when the batteries die out in the sensors is dear enough though, they are non replacable and you have to get new TPS sensors (some people have disassembled them and managed to change the battery but it is a complate arse).
You may look into replacing what you have with this ( EBAT ET-91 AE Wireless TPMS Motorcycle Tire Pressure Monitor 2-sensor Waterproof ) I bought this model Seems to work fine & the Batteries are easy to replace :)
snakecoils - gets my vote, thanks for the part numbers. 👍
I would avoid the Triumph TPMS... just so many issues with the upkeep. I don't have it on my bike but a buddy has it on his 2019 SpeedTriple and hates it. He paid to have it deactivated because it was that much of a pain in the backside. Aftermarket is a better way to go. Personally, I just take the 5 minutes per week to check my pressures (I know that it should be before every ride but I am ok with once a week). I do have a compressor with me on the bike if ever I have an issue.
@@alanhache502 - I don't think I would fork out again either. On my last bike I had those little valve stem cap indicators and thought they were just great. Not real time I know but just a couple of Euros and easy to glance at every time you get on the bike.
since I am 18 I ride Motor Triumph and different BMW MOTOGuzzi Honda Yamaha but at least Triumph the First was a Bonneville 750 in 1978!!
My brother used to have the Bonneville 750 too, lovely bike 👍
Mr. Cox I see motoblogers from UK and I've got to say it UK looks like a dream place to ride motorcycles. All those beautiful hamlets/villages, if it was not for the high taxes I think the UK has I would have moved there already. What are your thoughts?
Well I would be in the Republic of Ireland and not the UK for a start but we pay even higher taxes than the UK and get even less back. But you get what you pay for, we live in a relatively stable low crime environment where you can drink the water out of the taps and all kids can go to school for free. Your kids can get a University education for €12,000 in fees, that is for all four years (as long as you live near the Uni and they can live with Mum and Dad). You can be treated for life threatening Cancer for zero cost in hospital, the police can be trusted and the population is friendly. This is not an exhaustive list! There are downsides to every country of course but I count myself lucky to be living in Ireland.
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff ah! I should have picked the accent. And I noticed km/h instead of mile/h. I‘m American from Spaniard parents. There is not much taxes, here in the U.S. but most of it is wasted on nonsense or stolen by corruption. Once I save enough money I plan to live somewhere else that’s more peaceful. There is too much violence and nonsense here.
@@albertoj.mollinedo4116 - I have a brother that has lived in California for a long time. The US isn't a place to be unless you have money and medical, that's for sure.
Lol. Know those roads well. Live near naas
Andyike catch - Gotta love Kildare!
It Handle any condition , try rideing on
Pea Gravel , you be of on your bum with
Road Tyres , or 90 % 10 % Tyres , 50,50
Or Full off road tyres will only do , do you need a Adventure bike ?
Adventure bikes like this offer superb comfort over distance and a generous seat to foot peg geometry. The long travel adjustable suspension also offers a great platform for two up journeys. So they do have their place for some I think. My CB1100EX is a great basic no frills bike but in comparison its capabilities are limited.
I have had warranty dealings with a few different brands over the years and they are all the bloody same.
Unfortunately I have a feeling you are right Brian. I still have the Tiger and it is a fantastic bike now it is settled, it is my main bike. Having said that I wanted a second roadster style bike and boiled it down to a T120 or a Honda CB1100EX. I went the Honda way for a simple air-cooled non-techno bike with a proven track record of reliability. I just had that sour Triumph taste in the back of my mouth.
What boggles my mine is this...With all of the great fantastic applications of thin filmed tech, why on earth hasen't a brillant mind, (ie mine) come up with the right type of display place up on the windscreen? The possibliites are endless in terms of configuations with this application!
Yes, when all manufacturers have similar offerings and buyers have loads of choices they have to try and stand out to pique peoples interest. Even something as simple as a screen embedded (or somehow projected) night time speedo readout for example, people love gadgets and they don't have to be extremely complicated.
40:18 "So, Louch Ree in the county of Ooh-F**k-Me" Oh, really? Where's that then? lol
Oh yes, it's really well known round these parts!
actually am i the only one who has only sound from the right ear?
Claas Benecke - should just be mono.
If only we could hear you voice
??
Hope he made a warranty claim for the left audio channel.
I did I did!
My old Trident 900 is the most reliable bike I ever had now about 98999km on it much better then a BMW K1100 RS this is one of the worst Bike I ever had. And I see the 1200 Tiger will not my Bike
all the new Electonic makes not happy and at the End it costs and dont run if you need it. I ride all the year every Day to work and back. so older better?!
Yes and no! 😁. My 1995 Daytona 1200 took some work to get the ignition and carbs right but I will say the bike is in fine form for a 27 year old bike. Fingers crossed on the sprag clutch and alternator bolt. The engine is generally bulletproof though and I don’t anticipate any more trouble. As for bike electronics, yes, I think my next main bike is going to be a lot more basic, I have decided I don’t need electrically adjustable suspension for starters. Enjoy that fantastic 🔱.
60 days off the road is bloody unrealiable to me! no mention of the rip off dealers and their criminal servicing costs? where you paid by triumph by any chance?
I made a later video on my 20k mile service costs. All the servicing has been very reasonable up to that point but that one was eye watering, expensive I'll say.
"It's not an unreliable bike"
*Continues complaining about constant problems, no loaners, and bike sitting at dealer for two months*
As in my particular bike has been unreliable but my experience is not representative of other owners experience.
Shawn Kitchen
Did you watch the video after the first 5 minutes?
Good Content but Background music is irritating 😖