Triumph Tiger 1200 - XCx or XCa?
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- Опубліковано 11 бер 2019
- A quick look at the Triumph Tiger 1200 XCa and whether it represents good value compared to the XCx. Although I have focussed on the XC range a similar difference exist between the road styled XRx and XRt machines. I have purposefully ignored the entry level XR road based T12 which doesn't come with TSAS suspension and a host of other features. The XCx is priced with non black paint for price comparison. As ever, this is just my opinion and if the budget is not limited of course you might choose the top of the range machine regardless. Since making this video Triumph released the Desert & Alpine models which I think represent the best value for money in the range. They are based on the mid range XRx and XCx and come with the quick shifter as standard amongst other things.
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You just put my mind at ease about getting a XCx thank you.
evan002 - great, glad it helped, if I had my time again I’d do the same.
Outstanding direct bike rider Tiger review - This is the best T12 info on UA-cam. Thanks Terry
MotoPG - too kind, too kind! Glad you liked it. I will only go by owner reviews myself for all the usual reasons.
I just purchased 2020 Tiger 1200 desert edition. It's based on the XCx with the addition of Titanium and Carbon Fiber wrapped Arrow Silencer, Triumph Shift Assist. I'll be picking it up next weekend! Thanks for all the informative videos and words of praise for the Triumph tiger! So many BMW fanboys out there always hate it when comparing the two.
Ron C - nice one Ron, it’s a really good looking edition you have there and the perfect spec for the money.
Thanks for this information fantastic
great, glad it was useful.
Cool motorcycle I have exactly the same model in white. Even the bag on the passenger seat has the same model and the same place to give back support. I changed the windshield for a higher one, because I am 194 cm tall, now I have a "puig" and it is pleasantly quiet.
Excellent! Out of interest, what model PUIG screen? Happy Trails!
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff 9614H
Is that a home made Gentry MG TF kit car in your garage? Great review on the bikes Terry. You can install DIY Symtec Heat Demon pads from Ebay (from the USA) in the two seats quite easily for a total cost of £150. It depends on the seat area. The Heat Demons are small at 225mm square and work with smaller seat areas. You can buy larger seat elements from the UK still cheaper but you need to check the seat plan size. You just unstaple the covers to insert them and you'll need a staple gun to restaple the covers back on. Put little marks around them underneath before unstapling them to ensure they go back on in the exactly the same location or it will look unsightly with creases etc. Just use care and attention and it's fine. I've installed them on 6 seats now and al havel worked brilliantly.
Denali D2 lights are better in every way eg light output, quality, appearance, than Triumphs stock fogs and two thirds the price. Triumphs quickshifter is to me absolutely essential as the stock gearbox change mechanism feels agricultural, noisy, slow and very clunky. You can easily change the silencer can sometime whenever. The XRX makes better sense to me as the wheels are also easier to keep clean and make the bike weigh less. And this gives it less unsprung weight which makes for better handling. What's there not to like about the middle range ??? It makes sense to get one instead with a quickshifter... at least to me anyway.
It isn't RT1200BIKER, it is a 1952 MG TD, runs a treat but is slow, 50MPH is about as fast as I want to go in it, the little 1250cc engine is screaming at that point! Great to know about the Heat Demons, they sound like good value, as ever it is down to how much of your own effort your willing to put into these changes, I would have a go but many wouldn't. I got my heated Keis vest on offer for about £85/€100 and it is a great value item for winter riding, better than any other warming accessory I can think of. I have used it a couple of years now and am constantly amazed how well your mind works riding in winter when your core is warm, so different. I think the XRx is the value model in the range and agree on those alloys, you also get the option of the low version which I have ridden and found very good too. That quick-shifter transforms the bike and is executed nearly perfectly by Triumph, it gives the bike a whole new character and makes that gearbox super smooth. I don't think the gearbox is that bad without it but I do get a great thump as I engage first. Happy trails!
Terry
I never commented on this video. I put a down payment on my XCX because my dealer that I have been buying bikes from for 40+ years cut me a "Half off" deal on the bike. I hadn't planned on picking it up for a few months at least. He called and said he had a buyer that would take it right away and would I let him sell it. I said yes and told him I would just get the "Desert Edition. He gave me a stupid price on that one as well, $15000 US. Long story short, when I had cash in hand, The XCX that I wanted was still available for $8500 Less than the Desert. I added the fog lights and the quick shifter and have the bike of my dreams! I love the Gloss Jet Black paint scheme !!! I have owned bikes with the matte finishes and they show all kinds of hand prints and stuff and are a Be-atch to clean. Black is the NEW Black!!! Like I told you before, I added the GIVI pannier mounts you suggested and ditched the Triumph ones per your video and added the SW-Motech upper crash bars.
Great video Terry!!!
Cheers
Great result and absolutely the right decision by the sounds of it, congratulations on the new wheels. I do think the XCx is the best value bike in the range, it's going to be a blast, well wear!
Terry, I like to do my own maintenance on my bikes because I know its being done right, but I found out that you can't reset the service overdue message on the TFT screen. Do you have your dealer do your maintenance on your Tiger or do you do it yourself.
It's only once a year and the dealer is 20 minutes from me so I let them do it. Updating the firmware would be my biggest issue and bleeding brakes passed the ABS unit would require a little thought without an OBD interface and some dealer tool software. Not sure I would have the patience anymore for things like valve checks and/or shimming either, especially on this bike. Gone are the simple days of cleaning out a carb float bowl, changing a filter and adjusting an easily reachable rocker!
I would love a garage that big fit more bikes
I'm very lucky I know. There is a Daytona 1200 snuck in the back there too.
Great video. A eye opener. I’m hearing people mentioning that these triples run hot and some overheating problems . Do u have any feedback on that?
I confirm that the engine ejects warm air to the feet but it is felt in traffic jams if the air temperature exceeds 23 degrees Celsius. These are short moments and in my case I do not treat this as a problem because I use the motorcycle only for tourist trips.
Hi Mark, sorry missed this comment. Yes they do eject some heat around the base of the tank and I would be wary of this in all year round very hot climate. I think a test drive would be required for sure. For me in Western Europe it is a non-issue though.
Hi could you do a video or explain how you’ve mounted your TomTom rider please?
I’ve just picked up my new xrx and want my TomTom rider mounted where yours is. I had a first generation explorer and it was easy due to the top bar of the screen.
Regards. Steve
Hi Steven - there are a bunch of ideas on a dedicated Triumph Tiger 1200 forum, see link below. I went the low cost solution, a RAM mount ball for £5.83. I think the pics in that will give as much detail as any video. There are ideas from others too.
www.tiger-explorer.com/index.php/topic,17051.20.html
Terry Cox do you think i can use the rider anti-theft mount with your solution? There’s enough space to fit that as you did? Thanks
Fabrizio Genna - I think it wouldn’t sit well. Too tight for space and it will add weight and make it wobble too much. I drop the Sat Nav in my pocket or top box when leaving the bike.
You just saved me 2200€, thanks.
Excellent!
I’m after an adventure bike best I’ve found was a pre registered one with 1mile on clock a triumph tiger xcx in white never drove for £11,000 is that a good deal are should I go for something else, I’m of to Norway on it in June, won’t be doing of road . Like the grandmas lamp enjoy your vids
£11,000 looks like a good deal to me for an XCx with 1 mile. Sounds like they have preregistered it to meet a sales quota. Ask if you are getting a full 2 year manufacturer’s warranty with that. If there is a bit of luggage going with it all the better, don’t don’t rush to buy the Triumph luggage, have a look around and see what’s on offer. Check it is not a Generation 2 machine. If it has a TFT it is generation 3.
Messaged you on another video as I've said you are my go to for tiger 1200 info I have seen black xca's for sale I wasn't aware they produced that colour do you know if they did and they are just hard to come by or is someone trying to pull a scam putting a xca badge on
I don’t ever remember a black XCa but over the four years of production there could of been. If it doesn’t have hill hold or heated seats it’s not an XCa.
Hello Terence. Did your Tiger have a steering damper installed on the bike? And if it didn't how was the overall handling and did it feel like it needed one installed
They don't come with a damper and I never felt it needed one. Road based only for me, too big to take off road.
@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff I don't blame you at all. I'm a road rider myself. To me just to be different I'll always love that tiger 1200. I used to ride sport bikes. The tiger is a great bike if you like to ring its neck 😆. Plus where I live everyone has a GS. And I like to stand alone. But never know. I let the last tiger slip through my fingers. I may just end up with a GS this time around. Enjoy your day and God bless 🙌 🙏
Beautiful bike mate!
I think that one of the reasons someone buys a bike is the looks of the bike. And although these cornering lights "do nothing" they make this bike look even more beautiful than the "simple" version. Same for the windshield. Much better the tall one than the standard. Strange thing though, i prefer the standard exhaust system than arrow! And yes, this quickshifter is GREAT!
Cheers from Greece / Yamaha FJR rider.
You are right of course, I was fortunate I had the money and went for the XCa and that was my heart going for the looks. I think manufacturers know this and this is how they get the up-sell! PCP also makes the difference less of an issue although I managed to avoid that luckily. FJR a fine bike. If I was in the market for a Supertourer there is only two to choose from, the R12xxRT and the FJR, the FJR gets my vote.
Does the xcx have heated grips/seats?
KM-16 Bison - grips I think, not seats.
What turn signals are those?
SinisterSwami 1 - they are the factory stock LED turn signals for most markets. Regulations in other markets prohibit use by Triumph.
So the xcx also has the semi active suspension?
K T - yes, all models bar the very entry level XR.
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff Thanks, because here in India the XCA or the XRT are not available for the 1200 model. Only XCX is available so your video was helpful. I dont really need the quick shifter, the extra riding modes, the heated seats and the triumph fog lamps (will put thr denali d4s which I have). The only thing which I liked on the XCA were the foot pegs, exhaust and the taller windshield. Does it really not sound different?
@@Dude_Virus - honestly, go for the quick-shifter before those other add-ons, its awesome. You don't have to be racing around to get the best of it. No, I couldn't tell the difference between a stock exhaust and the Arrow in terms of sound. The footpegs are excellent though.
Y I get audio only on right channel for this video
Yes, sorry, that happens sometimes, set your audio out to mono temporarily. My bad.
XCa absolutely!
Road Glide - XCa best but best value? Hmmm.
Terry Cox
Life’s short. Buy the bike you really want. For me it’s the XCa!!
I wish more reviewers did this type of review... If you checkout TMF and 44teeth they allways seem to go for the most pricey models,,I wonder why?
Yes, I think you have to rely on owner reviews for the true picture of a machine, no-one to impress or please. I have the luxury of time on my side with just one bike too and I do it just for fun, I make a living in other ways. Thanks for watching.
OMG😮 it seems you regret the xca 😮 and now i'm already counting the days for my red xrt 😂
miguel galamba - no, no regrets at all, I love my bike and will be hanging on to it. I’m just highlighting the equipment levels here and whether the extra is worth it. I think the XCx and XRx are better value but if you have the money the XRt and XCa are better equipped, just not €2k better equipped ( to my mind).
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuffgreat to ear that! I'm counting on your expertise 😉
No No you got it wrong, the fast ones are always RED whatever you buy👍
MK Biker - 🤭👊
Neither. Scrambler 1200XE with Extreme package. Had a 2013 ,1200 Tiger XC, I got over it after 30,000 miles.
Mark - it obviously didn’t suit! :-). I don’t fancy a long journey on a 1200 Scrambler but I’d have one as a day bike. Scrambler is looking very well.
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff Tiger suited for 30k. The Scram will get a windscreen and I use soft luggage these days. I wanted lighter and simpler without the edgy Optimus Prime ADV look, like every other bike has these days.
Mark Jacobs - Optimus Prime 😂🤣
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff By the way the best value A or X, is an X with a Mosko Moto Reklus 80 system for bags.