I was fortunate enough to meet Simmons at a show a few years ago. Super nice guy, natural charisma, spent plenty of time chatting and didn't try to rush you, intimidating as Hell without trying to be, etc. Just an awesome guy.
That's like the 2 times I met New Jack... once at some yearly convention here in Queens, 2nd time quite by accident/luck outside and just before, the Iron Sheik roast .... Both times, he was quite calm, into chatting with u if u weren't a typical mark and were able to have a real authentic convo about whatever... cuz I witnessed him kinda diss then Ignore ur typical nerdy IWC mark hahaha (Of course I was respectful, careful, and joyful .... cuz u CANNOT let ur guard down or not watch what u say about New Jack, almost ANYWHERE & ANY TIME u shooting the shit with New Jack
+Big Mike (BigMike7302) harley started wrestling at age 13 and if he didnt win he didnt make any money. at age 19 he was in a car wreck and was forced to put a steel plate in his left hand. nobody with a legit left hand from harley would get up and harley even has said hw never wanted to say this on tv
Just imagine them talking this out backstage. Race: Now, I'm gonna need you to beat hell out of me. Simmons: OK, when? Race: Don't worry, you'll know when
RIP Harley, he played the heel manager here perfectly! Awesome wrestler, very methodical and 100% legit badass. Ron Simmons was a beast back in the day as well. Two guys you don’t mess with.
Vaneal Morrow A lot of wrestlers have said that Harley would give an unknown opponent 80% of the match just to help them get over with the fans. That's class.
SNARCast Productions hilarious.. I think my FSU boy, Ron Simmons, meant ‘this isn’t the 1800s’ not ‘the 18th century’ that would of made it the 1700s!.. anyhoo. Classic early 90s wcw. Nothing could beat it. The style back then could possibly give the 80s a run for the money
@@helicopterkicks9024 Amen to that. I loved watching that era of WCW, no matter how shitty both Jim Herd and Bill Watts wanted to make it. Also glad to see a fellow Nole.
Yes. How much they promoted FSU with Simmons tights and his constant chop move. That was my favorite era of wcw. Bloody, old school wrestling. Maybe I'm biased because Sting was and is my all time favorite wrestler. And he was being pushed as the top guy! Fa sho
@@helicopterkicks9024 admittedly that was one of the best things Bill Watts did was push him like he did. Other things, such as banning top rope maneuvers, not so much
Man I don't know, when I first got into WWF - Nation was on fire. Farooq was so believable and his intensity was essential to putting real attitude into the attitude era.
Wow! Harley race could really take a bump even in his mid-late 50’s. Heard a story about him and a few of the boys getting pulled over in I think Oklahoma while Harley was driving. Race got out and cut a super stiff promo on the cop and actually scared him enough they got let go. That’s the way I heard it anyway. One of the all time greats. RIP brother
As someone already mentioned, Harley was just shy of 50 at this point, either 48 or 49 depending on what part of the year this was filmed. He still takes a damn good bump for his age, though. Of course, anyone can take a bump, the trick is getting back up afterward. You can tell Race is a bit slow to get up compared to his prime, but you could probably cut off his arms and legs and he'd still make damn sure he got back up. [WARNING: Gross Story] A friend of mine gave Harley a ride after an indie show. Harley was in pretty bad shape at the time, extremely drunk, and my friend was positive Harley was going to puke in the back seat of his new car. But it was Harley Race and there was no way in hell he was going to refuse a favor to a legend of that caliber. Race did throw up multiple times, and every time it happened he kept his mouth closed, rolled down the window and spit it out on the highway. Not a drop touched the seats.
I've read that Harley asked Ron to get into the race thing beforehand and Ron said as long as it got over and as long as he didn't mean it! Ron knew how to conduct business.
@@benjaminlucas1635 I wasn't talking about Simmons hair. I meant just watch the promo. This promo was borderline racist but one I'm talking about is the promo wcw 91/92 with all three.
There was no N-word used. Even in 1992 that would never have been allowed especially as Hank Aaron worked with Ted Turner. But I guess even "boy" is racist ?
@@steveflynn7950 not serious enough to be beeped out... it was clearly intended and said in such a way the TV audience was meant to think he had used the N word.
This reminds me of the infamous line from a great Thespian - "Hell it ain't a black thang, it ain't a white thang....it's a me kicking your ass thang!"....😁
It's amazing how this historic segment would be the inspiration for the Booker T vs. Triple H feud in 2003. Booker T would be insulted way more than Ron Simmons was. He would not tolerate being told that he's better off being a limo driver, towel boy, or nappy headed entertainer here to make people laugh. He would win the hearts of the WWE fans and prove to the world that someone who was a troubled youth can overcome adversity and work hard to reach the top. He would defeat the racist WWE champion and become the world heavyweight champion at WrestleMania 19. That's what happened right?? Right guys?!!
@@trendmassacre8423 he was semi racist in character. You dont have to be a liberal to understand that. I'm a conservative Trump supporter and I know that. The racist is usually the clear heel and meant to be seen as a racist and a bad guy. Personally I always loved alot of the race based angles such as Nation of Domination or Latino Heat for example. There is no doubt WWE played race up in some of Booker T's angles though. I distinctly remember cheering for babyface Booker T against heel Christian in WWE for the IC belt. Christian wasn't racist character but was heel who was cheating to win every week against Booker T. WWE interjected racism into the angle through Lawler who was a heel commentator. Every week he would take about how Booker T got arrested for robbery as a youngster and spend the whole match telling people to "hide their wallets" and make funny comments about Booker T stealing and how he should be in jail. A menace to society, things like that. Clearly that was meant to be interpreted as a "racist stereotype" of Booker T who had obviously becoming a better person since his youth. especially when every week Christian who is obviously very white as a Canadian would steal that match from Booker while Lawler called Booker a "thief". It was one of my favorite angles with Booker (and he had alot of good ones) and Lawlers "racist" (obviously fake) commentary made Booker the clear fan favorite and the clear Babyface.
@@trendmassacre8423 we know Triple H isn't racist in real life and his motives for defeating Booker were less race based and were mostly Personal Ambition with a tiny bit of trying to bury WCW as well. Triple H defeated Austin in 3 Stages of Hell, ended Foleys career, defeated Sting, did everything possible to try to get booked to defeat Rock (mostly unsuccessful in this case). Triple H winning wasn't necessarily racist but that doesn't mean racism wasn't part of the angle or that Triple H as a heel didn't utilize this tactic. In conclusion I think racism was definitely part of that angle and the payoff the fans wanted was Booker to endure it and defeat it and win the WWF title but Triple H ego of course got in the way. Don't have to be a liberal to understand fans were robbed of the payoff and nothing wrong in my opinion with labeling Triple H a "racist" in the context of that specific storyline. PS Triple H and DX was also involved in the "racist vandalism" of Nation of Domination locker room to set up Hart foundation. So thats another angle where WWE used Racism with Triple H to go along with the example of the Christian Booker T feud I mentioned in my other post. Ironically it's the liberals you mention that prevent these type of fun race based stories from being portrayed in the boring modern product.
Harley sold that clothesline like a boss for his age at this time. He wasn't racist. He was selling to racists. A definite irony of the world of wrestling that accepts all races. I mean look... they were pushing Ron Simmons and he ended up a legend.
I wouldn't say Ron is a legend.. he is mostly remembered as one half of the Acolytes. It's sad too, because he should have been remembered for much more than that.
@@jonathansmith546 that's why i said for a second..if you don't see the pony tail and look at the bald head with goatee, not only he looked like Austin but sounded like him too.
@@chrismorgan7494 He only said "boy"? He'd called him an "errand boy" moments before and that wasn't bleeped. I thought for sure he had used the N-word, but I guess that was something even wrestling wouldn't work into an angle.
It was bleeped probably for the racist overtones of the word "boy". In the South in the days of Jim Crow, black men no matter what age were often addressed as "Boy" by whites. It was a sign of disrespect.
It’s a shame WWE didn’t keep him winning WWE World Championships. He was so great. He was athletic and charismatic. Under the APA, he was looked as a mid carder and main event talent.
Vince rarely puts his belt on wrestlers for a long while (3+ months) who held a top belt in other promotions that were a real competition. CM Punk & AJ Styles are the only known exceptions where neither man changed their ring name & retained much of their indie or pre-WWE personas, but he didn’t main event (last match) many PPVs as champion, I think.
Ron unfortunately was just a transitional champion. Sting had nagging injuries and Vader had lucrative commitments in Japan which is why Ron was given the belt in the 1st place
+GoldV316 I watched it ten times over and I don't see him making an 'N' sound during the bleep, looks like an F, but then it only appears to be one syllable...
@@roycuffee8387 The point is that even though it is a scripted show intended on telling a story, people are so fucking bitchy with their knee jerk reactions that they cant even let a story come to its resolution before they demand somebody gets fired... bitch.
@Jay Titan bro, i think you are missing the point. it has nothing to do with the "first" anything... it has to do with content and context. You are right, the climate is different know, which is the point, the current climate is what if a show touches a controversial issue somebody somewhere immediately decides to get offended on behalf of somebody who might exist, and they complain about it as much as they can until the can.
@Jay Titan Not on anything mainstream... maybe they have Nia or Becky take a shot once in a blue moon, but that stuff absolutely gets complaints. There is outrage over something every single week about both companies. Certain things just catch fire more than others, but people treat finding "problematic material" like it's a full time job.... shit, thats the only reason "problematic" is a word! lol. It's a real thing... regardless of how you feel about it, you have to at least admit it exists.
I enjoy these shows very much. I have been a fan since I was 7 years old. I started watching on a b@w TV. thank you for these clips of yesteryears matches. it is truly appreciated. thank you.
Harley Race and Ron Simmons are two of the legit toughest dudes to ever step foot in a wrestling ring. They are easily top 5 on that list, if not top 3.
Harley Race goes on record as being one of the toughest wrestlers ever in American wrestling if not wrestling in general, next to the likes of; Lou Thesz, Nick Bockwinkel, Bruno Sammartino, 'High Chief' Peter Maivia, Blackjack Mulligan, The Wild Samoans, Ric Flair, The Road Warriors, The Steiners, Haku etc. But make no mistake, he probably greatly feared and respected Ron Simmons behind closed doors. Just as many others probably did too. Simmons strength according to many was something to be feared and thensome. Coming from college football and the NFL made him a; "Human Wrecking Machine" in wrestling. What's going on here is simply 'kayfabe' selling an upcoming matchup in WCW, they probably all laughed it off backstage. In real life however, regardless of Race's formidable reputation in the business. i'm pretty sure he wouldn't want to mess or tangle up with Ron Simmons on his worse day, let alone his best.
What's interesting about this is: Most people think Harley Race was a racist. He was just giving heat to build things up for a future match. But Tony Atlas said on the WWE roundtable that Harley Race wanted Tony Atlas to be the first ever black heavyweight champion years before this happened. The promoter just didn't feel comfortable letting a black person become champion at that time.
According to Rocky Johnson Atlas would have been World Champ if he wasnt such a poor worker million dollar body with a 2 dollar brain Vince wanted Atlas to be World champ in the WWF so he teamed him up with The Rock's father to smooth out those rough edges but it never panned out
It doesn't matter how many times I watch this, I still ALWAYS remember Simmons wearing a fanny pack. Even now, I'm looking at him and no fanny pack. But the second I look away and picture it in my head, FANNY PACK.
I thought I knew that build sumhow?! Thats Hercules playing that character then? Never knew that! I always liked Him..Got a Photo of Him Signed as "Hercules"
I remember Simmons' title push, he was over as heck! Everyone wanted to see him beat Vader for the title and when he did the place erupted. Brilliant moment in the history of WCW and wrestling in general.
In or out of the ring, dressed in a suit or ready to fight, Harley Race was ready to put the show first. He made Ron Simmons look like a world beater, selling the chop block and the clothesline. RIP Mr. Race
This was funny as hell when it first aired on tv, still funny as hell today. This was promo cutting at it best. This helped set-up matches between Ron and Race's stable of wrestlers.
@@benthomas6828 Ron Simmons real life stature is part of what makes a fake product fun to enjoy. Because you can suspend disbelief and buy into the the storyline that is being developed. 3x All American at Florida State at Nose Tackle (the position which requires the most strength of all football positions) is no joke. Florida State isn't some division 3 school it's a big boy football factory. People say the Steiners never fucked with Simmons. Part of that is knowing Simmons can hold his own and wont take shit the other part is respect as Jocks for the accolades of Simmons in his athletic career. Earned respect. Take guys like Roman Reigns or The Rock they were good football players but nowhere near Simmons level. Comparing their football skills to Simmons would be like comparing Dolph (cant remember his last name) wrestling skills to Kurt Angle. They literally just talked about Simmons football accolades during the promo. The audience isn't going dismiss that. They know some guy of that stature isn't going to stand there and let some guy poke him in the chest and tell him to carry his bags in a semi racist way. It's the same reason WWE can get away with things with MMA champions like Lesnar.
My first and fondest memory of Harley Race was him pile driving Hulk Hogan through a table on Saturday night main event. I loved Harley race even though his career was on the back nine when I started watching.
Harley Race "I was world champion 7 times" Back then when someone said that even if he was a racist heel, you hated him but respected that he was so many times world champion. Today you have the babyface of the company being a world champion 12 times and nobody gives a fuck
Dual Shock this kid told me john cena was 16time world champ. i couldn't believe it. it dont mean shit any more. im ike how can he be up there w/ ric flair?
+Dual Shock - I totally agree, waaaaaaaaaaay too many title changes that devalue the belt. Also, I can't tell you how many times this year I've seen the champ NOT come out last, whether its a house show or t.v. The Champ is ALWAYS supposed to be the last one to enter the ring. WWE Brass are f'n clueless these days. They're so bad that their "push" of Reigns ... is burying him o.O
+Dual Shock When Harley was seven time world champion, it was earned through out years of wrestling, during a period when wrestling was a rougher way of life, in the ring and out. Same goes for Flair's sixteen championships. But now a days they take the belt off someone for a week, then put it back on them and that's a championship run, just so they can quickly hit a milestone it took guys like Harley and Rick years to get to. So that's why Triple H or Cena's times as champion don't mean much. It's not the same era, things aren't earned any more, they are just easily given.
Ron Simmons was one of the best athletes ever in wrestling!! There's a reason why the Steiner Bros. never messed with Ron...He's a legitimate BADDASS!! As much of a tough guy as Harley was, I'm pretty sure if they were in a real fight, Harley would have thought twice about putting his hands on Ron!!
lol this clip is hilarious to me for other reasons. so harley got loud when he wanted to emphasize his world title reigns hahaha. but when ron simmons gets offended, he starts with a kick to the bread basket, then the punches. hahaha. maybe its just me, i just found that humorous. lol also, boy was ron stiff, intense and stiff. hahaha. invader was getting hit so hard and fast he didnt know whether he was coming or going lol.
Harley Race had only been retired as an active wrestler for a year when this took place. He sold that clothesline like a BOSS!
MaestroDawg65 Harley turns 72 today (11 April). Bet he could still take some bumps.
And he could probably school every heel with one of his badass promos.
MaestroDawg65 that sell was epic as fuck!
That's false
+RayNDeere harley is actually living in a nursing home now not far from me
It was difficult to watch this without seriously questioning Jessie Venture hairstyle. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Brandon-Marcel Frederick Stafford the skullet was one of his few options to attempt to look cool at that stage of hair loss!!!!!
Mongolian Mullet
I think he was filming demolition man at the time!
@@robertalexandertracey8351 The Running Man
Robert Alexander Tracey
He wasn't in Demolition Man you fucking fat idiot.
I was fortunate enough to meet Simmons at a show a few years ago. Super nice guy, natural charisma, spent plenty of time chatting and didn't try to rush you, intimidating as Hell without trying to be, etc. Just an awesome guy.
That's like the 2 times I met New Jack... once at some yearly convention here in Queens, 2nd time quite by accident/luck outside and just before, the Iron Sheik roast ....
Both times, he was quite calm, into chatting with u if u weren't a typical mark and were able to have a real authentic convo about whatever... cuz I witnessed him kinda diss then Ignore ur typical nerdy IWC mark hahaha
(Of course I was respectful, careful, and joyful .... cuz u CANNOT let ur guard down or not watch what u say about New Jack, almost ANYWHERE & ANY TIME u shooting the shit with New Jack
Ron Simmons and Harley Race, 2 legit badasses you didn't want to mess with behind the scenes, but had hearts of gold.
Ron Simmons and Harley Race......two badasses!
2 L E G I T fucking badasses
+Big Mike (BigMike7302) harley started wrestling at age 13 and if he didnt win he didnt make any money. at age 19 he was in a car wreck and was forced to put a steel plate in his left hand. nobody with a legit left hand from harley would get up and harley even has said hw never wanted to say this on tv
Doc Malthus yes they are awesome!
Doc Malthus This is a reason I used to like wrestling we knew what it was..
I've got news for you, muscles don't win fights
Just imagine them talking this out backstage.
Race: Now, I'm gonna need you to beat hell out of me.
Simmons: OK, when?
Race: Don't worry, you'll know when
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LMAOOOOO
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DAMN!
well said !
RIP Harley, he played the heel manager here perfectly! Awesome wrestler, very methodical and 100% legit badass. Ron Simmons was a beast back in the day as well. Two guys you don’t mess with.
Harley knew how to get guys over.
Vaneal Morrow A lot of wrestlers have said that Harley would give an unknown opponent 80% of the match just to help them get over with the fans. That's class.
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Racist comments in a crowd of racists Put Harley race over also.
@@hadbl12 Bitchass Nigguh!
Dare I say Simmons had a hell of a lot of charisma going in this segment, made me wanna go back and watch some more of his young stuff....
He was great
Harley Race had one of the best old school back bumps, RIP King
"This ain't the 18th century, and my name ain't Gopher."
DAMN!
SNARCast Productions hilarious.. I think my FSU boy, Ron Simmons, meant ‘this isn’t the 1800s’ not ‘the 18th century’ that would of made it the 1700s!.. anyhoo. Classic early 90s wcw. Nothing could beat it. The style back then could possibly give the 80s a run for the money
@@helicopterkicks9024 Amen to that. I loved watching that era of WCW, no matter how shitty both Jim Herd and Bill Watts wanted to make it. Also glad to see a fellow Nole.
Yes. How much they promoted FSU with Simmons tights and his constant chop move. That was my favorite era of wcw. Bloody, old school wrestling. Maybe I'm biased because Sting was and is my all time favorite wrestler. And he was being pushed as the top guy! Fa sho
@@helicopterkicks9024 Racism only started in the 1800s.
@@helicopterkicks9024 admittedly that was one of the best things Bill Watts did was push him like he did. Other things, such as banning top rope maneuvers, not so much
R.I.P. Harley Race. You’ll be truly missed!
Harley was the best. Miss him.
Harley race knew how to sell a goddamn clothesline.
seabrook1976 wish he was around to teach the current WWE roster. Selling moves doesn’t happen much anymore.
That was great!!
Don't say the lords name in vain please
@@tonigather9685 never said her name
I don't think he had a choice lol
Ron Simmons: One of the only guys to be booked better in early 90s wcw than he was in the WWF. Though I did love the APA.
The Nation was made for Ron (after his horrible intro), but Rock got over
Man I don't know, when I first got into WWF - Nation was on fire. Farooq was so believable and his intensity was essential to putting real attitude into the attitude era.
DAAAAMM!!
Sting was booked better in WCW too
@Shorty Right on. Booker T is the exception I'd say
All that jerri curl juice flying around.
Slip and fall if not too careful.
Two of the legit badasses in the business. Off camera, Harley advocated for a black heavyweight champion to happen, but the promoters didn't want it.
Ron did beat Vader to be WCW World Champion, what are you talking about?
@@cinesanti7 That was later on when he finally held the title.
@@cinesanti72 years later.
Wow! Harley race could really take a bump even in his mid-late 50’s. Heard a story about him and a few of the boys getting pulled over in I think Oklahoma while Harley was driving. Race got out and cut a super stiff promo on the cop and actually scared him enough they got let go. That’s the way I heard it anyway. One of the all time greats. RIP brother
he was in his late 40s early 50s here
As someone already mentioned, Harley was just shy of 50 at this point, either 48 or 49 depending on what part of the year this was filmed. He still takes a damn good bump for his age, though. Of course, anyone can take a bump, the trick is getting back up afterward. You can tell Race is a bit slow to get up compared to his prime, but you could probably cut off his arms and legs and he'd still make damn sure he got back up.
[WARNING: Gross Story] A friend of mine gave Harley a ride after an indie show. Harley was in pretty bad shape at the time, extremely drunk, and my friend was positive Harley was going to puke in the back seat of his new car. But it was Harley Race and there was no way in hell he was going to refuse a favor to a legend of that caliber. Race did throw up multiple times, and every time it happened he kept his mouth closed, rolled down the window and spit it out on the highway. Not a drop touched the seats.
RIP The King Harley Race the greatest ever
Vestal Lies lol how is that even possible?
Russell 21 I've done it. If I could do it, you're damn sure Handsome Harley Race could do it.
Congratulations to the first Black American World Heavyweight Champion on his induction into the WWE Hall of Fame!
Well he wasnt actually the first but during a time where there was only really Wcw and Wwf... Yeah..
Iceman King Parsons was the first African American world heavyweight champion when he beat Kerry Von Erich for the WCCW world heavyweight title
DAMN!!!
@@robnun6982 😆
I believe the actual first black champion was Bobo Brazil...
The most offensive part of this clip was watching Ron having to sell those shitty Super Invader forearms.
What about Jessie's hair.
@@Randy-ry9ss I'm more offended by jessie's hair TBH
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Lol I know right 🤣🤣🤣🤣 why was that bum even in the ring
I've read that Harley asked Ron to get into the race thing beforehand and Ron said as long as it got over and as long as he didn't mean it! Ron knew how to conduct business.
I wonder if Harley ever got his hair permed with a do like that.
Benjamin Lucas I don’t think so because Harley Race always had curly hair.
@@benjaminlucas1635 Danny McBride took over Harley Race hairstyle!! Look at the promo with Luger, Race, and Simmons!
@@aaroncushinberry1030 Simmons doesn't have nearly as much hair now as he did then. I saw him up close at an event a couple of years ago.
@@benjaminlucas1635 I wasn't talking about Simmons hair. I meant just watch the promo. This promo was borderline racist but one I'm talking about is the promo wcw 91/92 with all three.
I don’t know what’s more interesting the whole promo segment or everybodys hairstyle
😂😂😂😂😂
JHERI CURL VS MONGOL MAN VS RAMEN NOODLE
Hair styles lol
I think all their hair looks lovely.
40 years from now your present day haircut will look pretty stupid, too!
Actually, it looks ridiculous now , IMO.
Love Simmons and Race. But damn, another masterful call by Jim Ross. Man oh man, what a call from the legend. Could make anyone with his announcing.
I like how they bleeped Harley calling Ron "boy," trying to make it seem like he said something more serious.
There was no N-word used. Even in 1992 that would never have been allowed especially as Hank Aaron worked with Ted Turner. But I guess even "boy" is racist ?
Trust me on this, calling a black man " boy " is serious....
@@steveflynn7950 not serious enough to be beeped out... it was clearly intended and said in such a way the TV audience was meant to think he had used the N word.
Yeah it was done pretty well because anyone watching on TV would definitely think he had used the N word.
@@samuelwoods164 Thats smart use of censorship.
rip harley race🙏🏻. sold that football tackle like a real pro...amen 🙏🏻
RIP Harley Race you really were something on the mic, this feud between Ron Simmons and Vader was good, and Harley made it even better. #Facts
Harley looks like a badass Col Sanders.
TheBoomer418 Hahaha!
Nah. David Shultz
LOL!
Harley could make a chicken jump into the fryer.
Lmaooooo
This reminds me of the infamous line from a great Thespian - "Hell it ain't a black thang, it ain't a white thang....it's a me kicking your ass thang!"....😁
Stone Cold
@@dantheman8152 You dam right!!
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He's such an underrated talent. God bless you Ron Simmons.
Always had mad respect for Ron Simmons. The dude is still a beast!
Dude looks like Billy Dee Williams on steroids
😅😅😅😅😅
+Askia Whittaker lol
Trenbo Testrisian
🤣🤣😂😂😂 Yo he do though 😩😩😩😂😂
Glass half full of whatever, true that bub....hahahaha
:)
Every 80s wrestling promo began with “let me tell you something…”
HAHAHAHAA
oh the good old days. :)
Bonus if you referred to your subject as "Brother", "Hoss" or "Daddy"
It's amazing how this historic segment would be the inspiration for the Booker T vs. Triple H feud in 2003. Booker T would be insulted way more than Ron Simmons was. He would not tolerate being told that he's better off being a limo driver, towel boy, or nappy headed entertainer here to make people laugh. He would win the hearts of the WWE fans and prove to the world that someone who was a troubled youth can overcome adversity and work hard to reach the top. He would defeat the racist WWE champion and become the world heavyweight champion at WrestleMania 19. That's what happened right?? Right guys?!!
TheBigBadGRIM Nope...Triple H's Golden Shovel happened.
Triple H’s water bottle approves!
@@trendmassacre8423 he was semi racist in character. You dont have to be a liberal to understand that. I'm a conservative Trump supporter and I know that. The racist is usually the clear heel and meant to be seen as a racist and a bad guy. Personally I always loved alot of the race based angles such as Nation of Domination or Latino Heat for example. There is no doubt WWE played race up in some of Booker T's angles though. I distinctly remember cheering for babyface Booker T against heel Christian in WWE for the IC belt. Christian wasn't racist character but was heel who was cheating to win every week against Booker T. WWE interjected racism into the angle through Lawler who was a heel commentator. Every week he would take about how Booker T got arrested for robbery as a youngster and spend the whole match telling people to "hide their wallets" and make funny comments about Booker T stealing and how he should be in jail. A menace to society, things like that. Clearly that was meant to be interpreted as a "racist stereotype" of Booker T who had obviously becoming a better person since his youth. especially when every week Christian who is obviously very white as a Canadian would steal that match from Booker while Lawler called Booker a "thief". It was one of my favorite angles with Booker (and he had alot of good ones) and Lawlers "racist" (obviously fake) commentary made Booker the clear fan favorite and the clear Babyface.
@@trendmassacre8423 we know Triple H isn't racist in real life and his motives for defeating Booker were less race based and were mostly Personal Ambition with a tiny bit of trying to bury WCW as well. Triple H defeated Austin in 3 Stages of Hell, ended Foleys career, defeated Sting, did everything possible to try to get booked to defeat Rock (mostly unsuccessful in this case). Triple H winning wasn't necessarily racist but that doesn't mean racism wasn't part of the angle or that Triple H as a heel didn't utilize this tactic. In conclusion I think racism was definitely part of that angle and the payoff the fans wanted was Booker to endure it and defeat it and win the WWF title but Triple H ego of course got in the way. Don't have to be a liberal to understand fans were robbed of the payoff and nothing wrong in my opinion with labeling Triple H a "racist" in the context of that specific storyline. PS Triple H and DX was also involved in the "racist vandalism" of Nation of Domination locker room to set up Hart foundation. So thats another angle where WWE used Racism with Triple H to go along with the example of the Christian Booker T feud I mentioned in my other post. Ironically it's the liberals you mention that prevent these type of fun race based stories from being portrayed in the boring modern product.
I remember Booker calling Hogan that word on TV and when he realized it he thought he was getting fired
Check out Ron Simmons rocking the Billy Dee Williams hairdo!
Harley sold that clothesline like a boss for his age at this time. He wasn't racist. He was selling to racists. A definite irony of the world of wrestling that accepts all races. I mean look... they were pushing Ron Simmons and he ended up a legend.
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Larz nah.
I wouldn't say Ron is a legend.. he is mostly remembered as one half of the Acolytes. It's sad too, because he should have been remembered for much more than that.
Larz Only in your mind.
Larz lol oh I am? Please tell me why you feel I am a racist.
A story told that feels personal. Imagine.
+keepthebeat929 Yes, that's what's missing from professional wrestling today.
BIGDADDYSINISTER sports entertainment
For a second there I thought Jesse was Stone Cold.
I thought he looked like Fu Manchu
With that pony tail, no chance🤣🤣🤣
@@jonathansmith546 that's why i said for a second..if you don't see the pony tail and look at the bald head with goatee, not only he looked like Austin but sounded like him too.
Okay
I thought Skinner? LoL
Ron Simmons, Harley Race, and Jim Ross doing play by play. Does it get better than this???
Yes.
@@cardsfighter2 k
@@LordKellicos very good
Dont forget Hercules as the Super Invader either
Yes.
"The year almost 2000" 😂😂
what year was this?
1992
Rico Lewis thanks!
Well, it was almost 2000.
@@neneshubby If 8 years away is almost, then sure lol.
Smmons was damn explosive back in the day..
3 Legends in the ring
Rip King Harley Race
Also RIP HERCULES (Super Invader)
"Let me tell you something, Mr. Simmons! Seven different times I was World Heavyweight champion and I had a boy like you carrying my bags!"
Why that was bleeped out, I have no idea.
@@chrismorgan7494 He only said "boy"? He'd called him an "errand boy" moments before and that wasn't bleeped. I thought for sure he had used the N-word, but I guess that was something even wrestling wouldn't work into an angle.
The beep was used to make the fans watching think he said the N word to get heat and make it satisfactory when Simmons beats him up
It was bleeped probably for the racist overtones of the word "boy". In the South in the days of Jim Crow, black men no matter what age were often addressed as "Boy" by whites. It was a sign of disrespect.
It’s a shame WWE didn’t keep him winning WWE World Championships. He was so great. He was athletic and charismatic. Under the APA, he was looked as a mid carder and main event talent.
He didn't draw as WCW Champion. Also, he was kind of over the hill when he came to WWE with a less impressive physique.
Vince rarely puts his belt on wrestlers for a long while (3+ months) who held a top belt in other promotions that were a real competition. CM Punk & AJ Styles are the only known exceptions where neither man changed their ring name & retained much of their indie or pre-WWE personas, but he didn’t main event (last match) many PPVs as champion, I think.
Ron unfortunately was just a transitional champion. Sting had nagging injuries and Vader had lucrative commitments in Japan which is why Ron was given the belt in the 1st place
Sold that clothesline like no other, he was trying to push Simmons, not racist at all.
Hell yeah, he did. Harley was such a pro, even in his older age.
Harley was awesome in this!!
Why did he hesitate when saying what he said?
+GoldV316 I watched it ten times over and I don't see him making an 'N' sound during the bleep, looks like an F, but then it only appears to be one syllable...
+GoldV316I I stand corrected- Thanks for the clarification! shoot interviews are awesome.
That kick to Harley's gut was hilarious 😂 some of WCW's best work from the past 👊🏽
Well, his last name is Race after-all.
LMFAO!
LOL
There will only be one Harley Race. RIP champ
Race selling that tackle and those clothesline like a champ!
If this happened in 2019 Harley Race we've been fired for that remark
lewis griffin and your point bitch??
@@roycuffee8387 The point is that even though it is a scripted show intended on telling a story, people are so fucking bitchy with their knee jerk reactions that they cant even let a story come to its resolution before they demand somebody gets fired... bitch.
@Jay Titan what? lol
@Jay Titan bro, i think you are missing the point. it has nothing to do with the "first" anything... it has to do with content and context. You are right, the climate is different know, which is the point, the current climate is what if a show touches a controversial issue somebody somewhere immediately decides to get offended on behalf of somebody who might exist, and they complain about it as much as they can until the can.
@Jay Titan Not on anything mainstream... maybe they have Nia or Becky take a shot once in a blue moon, but that stuff absolutely gets complaints. There is outrage over something every single week about both companies. Certain things just catch fire more than others, but people treat finding "problematic material" like it's a full time job.... shit, thats the only reason "problematic" is a word! lol. It's a real thing... regardless of how you feel about it, you have to at least admit it exists.
"The Super Invader" lmao 😂
RIP Hercules.
A prime Harley Race vs Simmons. Two tough SoB.
Harley Race was way passed his prime right here if im not mistaken he was even retired
I'm gonna start using that
2:50 harley sold that perfectly
I enjoy these shows very much. I have been a fan since I was 7 years old. I started watching on a b@w TV. thank you for these clips of yesteryears matches. it is truly appreciated. thank you.
Always gotta play the (Harley) race card...smdh
Harley Race and Ron Simmons are two of the legit toughest dudes to ever step foot in a wrestling ring. They are easily top 5 on that list, if not top 3.
YEAH Ron me and my brother felt that surge of energy you released in that segment and still feel it to this day ........good show👍
Harley Race goes on record as being one of the toughest wrestlers ever in American wrestling if not wrestling in general, next to the likes of; Lou Thesz, Nick Bockwinkel, Bruno Sammartino, 'High Chief' Peter Maivia, Blackjack Mulligan, The Wild Samoans, Ric Flair, The Road Warriors, The Steiners, Haku etc.
But make no mistake, he probably greatly feared and respected Ron Simmons behind closed doors. Just as many others probably did too. Simmons strength according to many was something to be feared and thensome. Coming from college football and the NFL made him a; "Human Wrecking Machine" in wrestling. What's going on here is simply 'kayfabe' selling an upcoming matchup in WCW, they probably all laughed it off backstage.
In real life however, regardless of Race's formidable reputation in the business. i'm pretty sure he wouldn't want to mess or tangle up with Ron Simmons on his worse day, let alone his best.
Waffle waffle waffle waffle
Maybe not fear but respect for sure. Look at the age difference between the two. Ron would kill that old hick lol.
are you crazy ????????????????????????????????????
almost everyone feared ANDRE GIANT
andre acted like a 12 year old girl infront of HARLEY
I will always love WCW Ron Simmons.
What's interesting about this is: Most people think Harley Race was a racist. He was just giving heat to build things up for a future match. But Tony Atlas said on the WWE roundtable that Harley Race wanted Tony Atlas to be the first ever black heavyweight champion years before this happened. The promoter just didn't feel comfortable letting a black person become champion at that time.
SUB4YOU Totally agree
actually Ron Simmons became the World Champion back then.
SUB4YOU I don't people thought that in the end?
According to Rocky Johnson Atlas would have been World Champ if he wasnt such a poor worker million dollar body with a 2 dollar brain Vince wanted Atlas to be World champ in the WWF so he teamed him up with The Rock's father to smooth out those rough edges but it never panned out
should have had Simmons as world champion longer and not had him become a lower midcard guy once he lost the WCW title
Love watching these old clips !!
Two of the toughest wrestlers of all time
Race sold that clothesline! Lariatoooooo!
It doesn't matter how many times I watch this, I still ALWAYS remember Simmons wearing a fanny pack. Even now, I'm looking at him and no fanny pack. But the second I look away and picture it in my head, FANNY PACK.
Props to Harley Race and Hercules Her.........I mean the Super Invader for helping with Ron's push.
I thought I knew that build sumhow?! Thats Hercules playing that character then? Never knew that! I always liked Him..Got a Photo of Him Signed as "Hercules"
RIP TO HERCULES AND HARLEY
MAN these guys can go!! The race angle was Executed so perfectly. I felt it lmaoo
R.I.P. Harley Race..but they should both be glad that the SCSA "WHAT??" chant wasn't invented yet lol
I loved Ron Simmons when he tagged as Doom. I remember them getting unmasked. So awesome
I remember Simmons' title push, he was over as heck! Everyone wanted to see him beat Vader for the title and when he did the place erupted. Brilliant moment in the history of WCW and wrestling in general.
Then didn't draw flies
In or out of the ring, dressed in a suit or ready to fight, Harley Race was ready to put the show first. He made Ron Simmons look like a world beater, selling the chop block and the clothesline. RIP Mr. Race
The Super Invader. Lol Hercules stooped wayyyy down.
Simmons should’ve had a longer run with the belt! Damn
10 years later, this gets put on my recommendations.
Jesse Ventura's bald mullet was the most offensive thing in this video. Whyyyyyyyy?
I believe it’s referred to as a “skullet”.
He was a mongol
@James Ratliff You're not quite as funny as you think.
Almost as bad as the skullet he sports now. He’s such a fkn tool
Almost as bad as the skullet he sports now. He’s such a fkn tool
Harley Race looks like Col.Sanders :P
Harley race has a great sheep skin mullet
This was funny as hell when it first aired on tv, still funny as hell today. This was promo cutting at it best. This helped set-up matches between Ron and Race's stable of wrestlers.
Lol no
2:51
Farooq with the Clothesline from Hell lol
RIP Harley Race one of the greatest ever to step in the ring and one of the toughest SOB's on the planet
What the fuck is a Super Invader?
Hercules (of 1980s WWF fame) under a mask.
+vjmlhds lol, I know who it is, just want to know what it is.
That's exactly what I thought
+Wrestling Stuff Hercules Hernandez
+Wrestling Stuff Hercules Hernandez
Jesse on the Mic was pure Gold...
So that's where Damian Demento got the idea for his hairstyle. 😂
THAT'S who he reminds me of! Thank you!
Ron Simmons is those type of ppl that don't take no crap from nobody
Johnny Trever Very true, a legit tough dude he is but you do understand this is fake right lol...
Scripted not fake.
predetermined not fake
@@benthomas6828 Ron Simmons real life stature is part of what makes a fake product fun to enjoy. Because you can suspend disbelief and buy into the the storyline that is being developed. 3x All American at Florida State at Nose Tackle (the position which requires the most strength of all football positions) is no joke. Florida State isn't some division 3 school it's a big boy football factory. People say the Steiners never fucked with Simmons. Part of that is knowing Simmons can hold his own and wont take shit the other part is respect as Jocks for the accolades of Simmons in his athletic career. Earned respect. Take guys like Roman Reigns or The Rock they were good football players but nowhere near Simmons level. Comparing their football skills to Simmons would be like comparing Dolph (cant remember his last name) wrestling skills to Kurt Angle. They literally just talked about Simmons football accolades during the promo. The audience isn't going dismiss that. They know some guy of that stature isn't going to stand there and let some guy poke him in the chest and tell him to carry his bags in a semi racist way. It's the same reason WWE can get away with things with MMA champions like Lesnar.
If Butch Reed wasn't so wacked out behind the scenes, he would have gotten the push to become a world heavyweight champ in WCW or the WWF!
Dedrick McConnell He was suppose to be the first IC champ. He fucked that up too.
My first and fondest memory of Harley Race was him pile driving Hulk Hogan through a table on Saturday night main event. I loved Harley race even though his career was on the back nine when I started watching.
Super Invader sounds like the kind of doctors appointment you keep putting off
one of the best era of pro wrestling.......
DAMN!
DAMN for Ron Simmons and a double DAMN for that big fat BOOTY.
Wha up
Simmons was affirmative action! This is when we sholda known it was pure black communism taking over...
@@DJAnthrocide And this is when we knew your comment was pure idjitism and peckerwoodery taking over. Typical..
is that hercules hernandez in the red mask?
yes it is.
+fearthewrath2000 yep. over stomping on the punches and all.
I didn't even recognize until I read your comment, but yes, that's definitely Ray Fernandez.
more like homeless Hernandez
No you fool, its the Super Invader. Can't you hear Jim Ross screaming!!?!?!?!?!?!
Damn that three minutes was more exciting then all of last summer slam
I remember seeing this as a child crazy how it looks watching it now. Good times in wrestling
Those Race bumps are still better than a lot of the talent today and Race was over the hill in this video. He was a manager
Ridiculous. Everyone knows Harley was too cheap to have anyone carrying his bags.
Upton Wevil LOL
Upton Wevil he wasn't cheap, he was still paying off Dick Slater and Cowboy Bob Orton those $25,000.00 for taking out Flair in 83
@@TuMalditaMadre *kaBUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKI!*
Jessie The Body’s facial expressions thooooo 🤣🤣🤣
Rest In Peace Mr. Race. Heaven is beginning to have a 5 star list of Wrestlers. PPV quality matches everyday for sure.
Harley Race "I was world champion 7 times"
Back then when someone said that even if he was a racist heel, you hated him but respected that he was so many times world champion. Today you have the babyface of the company being a world champion 12 times and nobody gives a fuck
Dual Shock this kid told me john cena was 16time world champ. i couldn't believe it. it dont mean shit any more. im ike how can he be up there w/ ric flair?
+Mr. J1S The kid was slow than. Cena is 15 time, not 16.
+Dual Shock - I totally agree, waaaaaaaaaaay too many title changes that devalue the belt. Also, I can't tell you how many times this year I've seen the champ NOT come out last, whether its a house show or t.v. The Champ is ALWAYS supposed to be the last one to enter the ring. WWE Brass are f'n clueless these days.
They're so bad that their "push" of Reigns ... is burying him o.O
+Dual Shock When Harley was seven time world champion, it was earned through out years of wrestling, during a period when wrestling was a rougher way of life, in the ring and out. Same goes for Flair's sixteen championships. But now a days they take the belt off someone for a week, then put it back on them and that's a championship run, just so they can quickly hit a milestone it took guys like Harley and Rick years to get to. So that's why Triple H or Cena's times as champion don't mean much. It's not the same era, things aren't earned any more, they are just easily given.
i agree. titles mean nothing now. i remember when the IC belt become worthless
Ron Simmons was one of the best athletes ever in wrestling!! There's a reason why the Steiner Bros. never messed with Ron...He's a legitimate BADDASS!! As much of a tough guy as Harley was, I'm pretty sure if they were in a real fight, Harley would have thought twice about putting his hands on Ron!!
Ron deserved that title. He was a talented perfect guy. Loved him as farooq
I remember this & well played!
looking at this video make me miss Harley race. r i p
lol this clip is hilarious to me for other reasons. so harley got loud when he wanted to emphasize his world title reigns hahaha. but when ron simmons gets offended, he starts with a kick to the bread basket, then the punches. hahaha. maybe its just me, i just found that humorous. lol
also, boy was ron stiff, intense and stiff. hahaha. invader was getting hit so hard and fast he didnt know whether he was coming or going lol.
Would love to have been able to see a young Harley and young Ron fight for real. The universe would implode.
Dayum, that clothesline @ 2:50 tho, BLACK POWER for ur ass LoL