Another fun fact: Microsoft Office does not support the .docx format. Instead, it puts a vague interpretation of it into the files with this extension. This is actually the cause of incompatibility with LibreOffice.
@@grc5618 Macintosh Office was not a suite of productivity software. It was an early attempt at office-space collaboration. It shared drive space and printers with multiple Macs on a LAN. In Jan '85 MS released Word for the Macintosh OS. In Sept. '85 MS released Excel for the Mac. Apr '87 PowerPoint for Mac. Excel for Windows was released Nov '87. All three apps were released for Mac before even one was released for Windows. They released Word (Jan '90) and PowerPoint (May '90) for Windows later than Excel. Microsoft's Office suite, bundling the three apps together for the first time, was released for Mac Jun '89 and for Windows Oct '90. There was an Office suite on the Mac over a year before it released for Windows. What is left out of that history is the reason productivity software was released on the Mac first and how Windows even came to be (or came to be as quickly after the release of the Macintosh OS, anyway). Apple asked Microsoft to develop productivity software for the Mac and gave them a working model prior to '84 official launch of the Mac. Microsoft copied the OS (which of course Apple did, too, after Apple's engineers and Jobs toured PARC Labs which had many people from Douglas Engelbart's computer research team that developed the original point-and-click user interface in the mid '60s) and MS tried to avoid copyright infringement by changing the Mac OS code and UX *just* enough (which is one reason some things in Windows are just a little more cumbersome than in the Macos ... and, over the years, vice versa). And how did Microsoft develop Excel and Word? They copied existing software and "improved it." Lotus 123 was the basis for Excel; so much so that even today you can still use functions from 123 in Excel. I do give it MS with Excel tho. They took a mostly-usable product and turned it into a power house, especially after the introduction of VBA in '93. VBA was my first successful use of an object oriented language and it taught me a lot. Becoming an Excel expert helped me understand concepts about data types, pipes, etc. before I even tried to be developer.
This guy is genuinely my fav linux youtuber, he can actually see the value of other OSes and unlike some other linux youtubers he doesnt insult or belittle users of other OSes.
Typical Linux user mindset. Sees a guy who uses Windows, Mac, and Linux. Creates mods and scripts for all three and has various different projects on the go at once, and the Linux zealot thinks he's looking at a Linux UA-camr. Hey, Linus Tech Tips did a review of the M1 Mac recently, guess he's a Mac UA-camr now, eh?
Yeah hardcore Linux users have that weird sense of superiority when they shouldn't. Linux has its downsides just like the other two mainstream OS's. (Im a new linux user myself and Ive noticed this just in my short time using it)
@@Phoenixwizard77 Your lack of understanding of the system doesnt indicate Linux has issues. It's likely just you.Linux doesnt hold your hand like you are accustomed to. It takes a long period of time and experience of the things not understood by a new user.
@@Phoenixwizard77 I think the first reply to your comment shows you're 100% correct. "It's not Linux, it's you!" If the best defence of Linux is 'it takes a long time and a ton of experience to get things to work worse than on Windows or MacOS", that's the definition of "worse"'!
Reasons for me using MacOS: 1. Working professionally as a Windows tech for 20 years takes a toll on your sanity. 2. I can focus on using really well developed apps, even if proprietary and non-free, and just let the OS stay out of the way, like an OS should do. 3. Appreciation of an OS developed by a company, with paid professional programmers hired to fulfill one vision, the commercial Apple vision of fully integrating apps, OS and devices into the "walled garden". It may be constrained, but the foundation is very solid. 4. The robustness and "it just works", no drivers, no registry, no .Net Framework, VC++ components, none of that bloat. 5. The ability to run MacOS, using the OpenCore rootkit, on a PC i built myself, with the components I choose. If nothing else as a proof of concept. It's a cool experience!
6. It’s beautiful. 7. It’s buttery smooth. 8. I’ve never experienced any kind of bug. 9. It works well with everyone else’s computer in my office. 10. With trackpad gestures you can rapidly flip through your tasks like a Las Vegas card dealer. 11. You can still do typical Linux stuff in the terminal.
I’m a Linux admin. Linux is a freaking amazing server platform, I just don’t care for Linux desktop. macOS imho is a good balance between a usable desktop UI and having a real *nix locally to be able to do *nix things like a shell, sed, grep etc.
@@thisismyalias Yeah.. my Macbook Pro has been rendered unbootable twice by updates and because "Macs just work" nobody seems to know how to recover from that.. had to reinstall OS both times.
Great video. I was a Senior Tech Advisor for 8.5 years till June 2019 until we lost our Apple contract. We never got to use the terminal or show the customers, it was all about showing them how to fix it themselves if it was a software issue. I am a LM19 user for several months now and was Win XP and 7 till both lost support. I realized the MAIN reason why people like Apple in general, is there synchronization between their devices and accounts, especially for parents to their children. That was it mainly, iPhone, iPod, iPad, WatchOS and Mac OS X and just MacOS, all had this sync that just technically worked. Crappy thing was when devices couldn't update any more, you technically had to upgrade, so they did a lot of buy back and you still had to pay a pretty penny. As for the scripts, they were fun to make, but it was a pain the @$$ to show a customer.
I’ve had a Mac for 25 years and a Linux machine for the last decade or so. The more time you spend in those two operating systems the more you realize what close cousins they are. Windows is the odd man out and, not being much of a gamer, I don’t know why I would want to use it.
I use a MacBook and a Linux desktop. I do, however, play games as well as use some Win/Mac only software so at this point I'm forced to have a Windows dual boot. I'm currently getting into Python programming and as soon as you do anything with a terminal it's obviously nice that both OSes are Unix-based. I really like Gnome since it feels familiar to a Mac user while not ripping it off. But I have heard that KDE Plasma can easily be customised to be more similar to macOS so I might experiment with that What desktop environment and distribution do you use on Linux?
i worked with linus mac and windows and on all honestly after windows 10, windows is number 1 followed by linux then mac, windows is overall the best there is nothing you can't do on a windows machine it is a mature feature rich OS
Windows has a terrible command line system and messed up file hierachy. It also has bugs and features from several years ago for backwards compatibility (I guess that's good, but its to the extent that modem windows is slow and buggy too). That being said, if you want to game, use windows. Windows is also great for creating bodged, hacked together programs. This is all from my limited experience with windows tho.
Tom Varga. Also I really don’t understand how ‘administrator rights’ work. Most of the time it lets you do stuff and then suddenly it prevents you from doing normal things, like even deleting a folder that somehow got restricted.
macOS is a great operating system for both a user and a developer. All the apps (besides game) you'd want works, and because it's based off of BSD Unix, you find common functionality between Linux; and homebrew is magic. The major downside for me is its closed ecosystem. I want to be able to use whatever I want, not monopolize myself to one company.
How about windows. Its has wsl also now working pretty fast and you will get best of both worlds. Mac sucks because apple develops it. Apple is gold digger.
I mean, believe it or not, some people don't care about customizable interfaces and tweaking with OS functionality. They want to install a program, have an easy shortcut to the program, and have features that help their workflow. And plenty of people find the features of MacOS helpful to their workflow. In a way, Apple products are built for businesses more than they're built for end users. When there's little in the way of changing the interface, a business can keep their apps and workflow very consistent and streamlined. Both businesses I work at have either an ipod or iphone for store use. It's not all about having the most options and the most freedom. Sometimes it's just about the work getting done.
As someone who uses it for music and photography - 1 It works seamlessly with any hardware I attach to it 2 It has a nice, clean and professional feeling interface 3 It works with my network NAS drive so much better than my Windows machine 4 in 9 years it's never crashed 5 No forced updates 6 No slow down over time with a bloated registry 7 It has all the software I want 8 And for someone who is now at the stage where they can't be bothered messing around with the system, it just works
macOS has the best audio system, much much better than Windows’ ASIO or Linux’s PulseAudio & JACK. Super low latency and requires no setup whatsoever! Great for musicians. But for everyday task other than music production, Linux is pretty awesome!
For pro audio/multitrack audio Mac is awesome. It just works, and is consistently reliable. ASIO drivers for windows are sketchy at best and a nightmare at worst.
I used to use OS X during the 10.4 to around 10.7 when the versions were still named after big cats. During the XP vs Vista/7 era it just worked. As a photographer having colour calibration built in was huge too. Also when Macs ran on PPC hardware it was also a hardware choice. The G5s were pretty cool back then. Anyway, I started playing around with the terminal, installing Mac Ports and doing more with my computer. Eventually when I got a PC when PPC support dropped I switched to FreeBSD, then Ubuntu, BSD again and back to linux. I like Elementary in alot of ways because it reminds me of what OS X used to be and what some of us thought it was going to be when Steve Jobs was talking about OS X and open source.
One of the things most people miss about apple is the amount of integration of services and apps across all their devices. I love Linux and its my main driver, but having the integration between Mac, iPad, iPhone is fantastic
I used MacOS as my daily driver from 2002-2021, and I finally switched to Linux a few months ago. There was a lot to love and a lot to hate about MacOS that I could go into. But instead, I'm going to mention the reason why a friend of mine uses MacOS, and can't really use anything else. She is visually impaired, and needs to use screen magnification (and "invert colors") in order to be able to read what's on the screen. She says that accessibility on MacOS is far better than accessibility on Windows or Linux. Although all the operating systems have accessibility features, the MacOS implementation is far more usable for someone who has to use it every day to get work done. She says "Microsoft hates their disabled users." Screen magnification on Linux is extremely clunky, and the Mac implementation is light years ahead of it. (This will vary depending on the desktop environment, but I'm not aware of any desktop environment that has screen magnification that's as usable as MacOS.)
I wrote a Literature Survey on this topic for my IT grad program. Visually impaired users who use Windowed tend to use third party tools over the built-in features. More and more visually impaired users are switching to Macs. When it comes to Linux, you have to look at speciality distros. Vinux is a dedicated distro with visual accessibility as a priority. It's based on Ubuntu, so it'll have some of the best app compatibility.
Apple's ecosystem is impressive, I'll give them that. My issue is how locked down their hardware and software is. I've used multiple versions of Windows, different Linux distros (Arch on my desktop and Fedora on my laptop), and MAC OSX Snow Leopard years ago. When I used a Mac, it was fine, but I wasn't terribly impressed. There were certain programs I liked that weren't available on Mac (like foobar2000) that I couldn't find a good replacement for. Once I switched from iPhone to Android, that pushed me away from Apple more. Mac isn't very good for people who like to tinker with their operating system. EDIT: I'd recommend going with Pop OS! or Linux Mint to people who may be attracted to the interface of MAC OS and its ease of use. The Gnome desktop environment on Pop OS! is very similar to the desktop on MAC OS. Linux Mint is more similar to Windows and it's also easy to use and usually doesn't require additional configuration to make it functional (you can still do it if you want to add functionality or customize).
I tinker with my Mac plenty, just as I tinker with my GNU/Linux systems and servers. You just have to read documentation and keep an eye out for good software like you would with any system.
My problem with Mac OS X is that you're not allowed to legally run it on any PC. My problem with *Apple* is everything they sell is overpriced massively. You could probably build your own iPhone from the exact same parts yourself for half the cost.
What? If you want similar experience to mac you would go with Solus (the budgie desktop) or with Deepin (since Mac OS Big Sur is copying Deepin beta 20)
I think you missed the point of macOS. It is for those of us who like doing work not managing computers to keep them running. Certainly it has a lot of things pre-configured or locked down, but the key point is that it gets the job done for 99.99% of what I do. And for that, I don’t have to spend a lot of time fixing things that break, applying patches, …..
I have a Mac M1 for web development and I think it's the best machine for this task. Apart from being able to use tools that designers use, we have iOS emulators, Safari, Docker, Android Studio, Davinci Resolve also works amazingly on ARM based Macs. And yes we have a Unix environment with 2 package managers (brew and macports) with tons of open source software. I wouldn't be able to do all we can do on the mac with Linux or Windows. And the M1 ARM architecture is ultra fast and consumes much less battery. Totally agree on gaming and the Apple Store.
OSX Snow Leopard was the bomb. It combined Apple's ease of use/works out of the box approach with many power user features. Since then they only added their subscription stuff, fenced off the ecosystem, and cut out all power user things. Catalina broke the last straw for me, am on Ubuntu now and it's brought back power user fun.
I agree, as well. I used MacOS from 2002-2021, and I loved it for a while, but I don't like the direction Apple is heading in, so I switched to Ubuntu a few months ago.
I used Snow Leopard from 2009 when I got my first mac, to around 2018 when I had to update for software compatibility reasons. Yeah, it was good. Now I use Debian, and I set up KDE to look a little like OSX, with the bar on the top.
i use all 3 OS's daily, I love the setting up of a new MacOS to a new MacOS its so simple, (iphone to iphone even more so) downsides on MacOS i just can never remember the keyboard shortcut to start a filmshow of pics I have to google it each time!, Windows is my full time job and pays my bills thank god they keep coming up with untested updates like 2004, and for 10+ years Linux Mint has helps me as my main workshop machine in my business and is super reliable, great content Chris, subd
"can't remember the shortcuts". Lol, such a problem. If you are using this everyday and don't remember go see a doctor, Alzheimer is a thing this days.
I worked at both apple and google. The underlying argument about MacOS/iOS vs Windows/Android/Linux or whatever is the starting point the company has when they are designing everything. Windows, Linux, and android assume you know what you're doing. Apple assumes you might not know what you're doing. At the end of the day, it really is about people's personalities. If you want to control or want to tinker, you don't like Apple stuff. If you just want to flip a switch and do a thing, then you're going to like Apple stuff. So, I really don't understand why people argue about this stuff. Use what makes you happy, productive, and sane.
I use Debian on my desktop and a Mac laptop. I like both. MacOS is a good UNIX-like alternative to GNU/Linux all of it's issues/imperfections. That is not to say MacOS isn't flawed.
This is the most bizarre macOS review I've ever seen, that's coming from somebody who's used all three OSes for a really long time. You didn't show off hardly any of macOS's unique features, and you focused on things that 99.9999% of Mac users would never even know or care about. This is an interesting perspective from a hardcore Linux user, but wow.
That’s because this guy is a Linux fanatic. They need to push this shit for people and they are trying to do that for more than 20 years or so. They are not being very well succeed tough because people doesn’t like the headache of deal with Linux desktop and prompt odd commands
Joseph Barros I agree this is a terrible approach to winning over Mac users (or probably Windows users) to Linux. I use Linux now for most of my main computer tasks and I’ve converted a bunch of my Mac friends. The absolute last thing I’d ever talk about to get them interested in Linux is package managers or even keyboard shortcuts. I tell them Linux has become great for gaming and there’s a ton of free software and they can use whatever hardware they like instead of being stuck with whatever Apple wants them to use. I tell them set-up is a breeze and managing the OS isn’t the stuff of nightmares anymore, with an easy distro. I ask them what software they’re currently using and then let them know it works on Linux or there’s a completely free alternative that these days has all the same features and (mostly) the same level of polish as they’re used to. These people I talk to are receptive, they dual-boot for a while, and they start learning more advanced stuff on their own if they really want to. They end up convincing themselves to switch on their own.
Java FTW! My son has a switch and I use a custom DNS and bedrock server to get all of us in the same server. So that is why I was messing around with bedrock.
because it is awesome - keyboard shortcuts rock - trackpad gestures cannot be lived without this is why every linux box I run looks and works like a mAC!!!
I've used the Mac and Windows over the years. The best thing about the Mac over Windows is it doesn't slow down over time. The worst thing about the Mac is being locked in with programs and music and being forced to upgrade your hardware to stay current. But there's nothing special about the Mac OS that makes me wish I was using it. I love Linux, and the Gnome DE is pretty damn awesome. I will never go back to using windows or mac .... and there actually is something special about Linux that makes me want to keep using it.
@@ashishpatel350 Just no dude. Windows 10 does not run better than OSX. Windows 10 cant run better than anything. MacOS is the best compromise after Linux.
I'm a developer and I use Macs primarily. These days you can't write anything that's without access to open source code, and macOS, with tools like homebrew and full access to GNU, is a natural. Most people seem to forget that macOS is a legit derivation of Unix - as Linux, BSD, Solaris, etc. - not a gimped or mini but a fully POSIX compliant Unix. You can try to create a dev environment on Windows, but the process is a royal pain, and even then things will break because a whole chunk of the toolset is missing depending on what you're developing. WSL works fairly well these days, only if all the pesky Windows stuff didn't get in the way. But if they remove that, it'll just end up as another Linux distro. Most people mocking Macs/macOS are just kids who's never used one, and don't know a lick of Unix, meaning they don't grasp the full spectrum of computing. Often they've heard of Linux, and may even have a second boot of some distro du jour, but usually only to not look like a complete sap. That or it's just insurance to look cool/cooler than their gaming buddies. Yet they accuse Mac users of being too hip. Wish they would tell my fellow developers that, as most of them are working on bigdata crunching and AI on expensive, hipster, toy computers. Those idiots! I sometimes game too, and it's equally a royal pain to get any decent titles to run on the Mac, because again, a good chunk of the toolset are missing, namely graphics API, though Metal shows promise, but only if enough game devs start using it.
I think the position of the super key in mac is the best thing about it. So comfortable to use, right there under your thumb. Ctrl is something the rest of the world is used to, but if you regularly use both, it'd be really hard to honestly say that the pinky contortion is more comfortable. Not worth it to use a mac though, and neither is the excellent trackpad, but those two things stick out for me as commendable for sure, or even superlative.
I used a Mac from the mid 80s up until the late 90s... at the same time I was running Slackware (starting in 93) on my primary and Solaris on my Ultra 10. Over the years Linux has become quite stable and very usable even for a beginner. That being said I picked up an M1 Mac last year and it's everything I always wanted in an OS. The stability is phenomenal, I have the ease of use of the App Store when I need it (I know you didn't like it), standard apps for Office work (if needed) but also the ability to use all almost all my favorite UNIX / Linux programs and utilities as well as scripting. The only thing I can't do to my hearts desire is game... If they could get that worked out I personally wouldn't run anything else. (I currently have Kali and Caldera installed via WSL2 on my gaming PC)
The "natural" scrolling option is a must for Trackpad usage, but I don't like it for a standard mouse-wheel. I really wish there was a way to switch it easier or set it for individual devices.
Yes! using trackpad and a scroll-wheel mouse or switching between a magic mouse and traditional mouse is so annoying since you can't set for individual devices
Yea, sometimes you can confuse the more inecperienced Linux user by putting the immutable attribute on a file by chattr +i /some/path/file and they get really upset why they can't delete it even as root. But it's a nice feature if you occasionally want to prevent files from being deleted or overwritten by some process that runs with elevated privileges that you cannot or don't want to dissect and reprogram.
Having used Mac OS for 15+ years, I found switching to Linux, much much easier, than switching to Windows. A lot of the Unix conventions are very similar to Linux.
Everyone says you can't game on a Mac but I don't get it...why not? I mean, I'm not a massive gamer but I have plenty of games on here...The Sims 4, ARK, Subnautica, The Long Dark...are there big games that are missing on Mac? Or is it that the integrated graphics cards are not top of the range?
Great video as always !! I have several suggestions/comments: 1. Use spotlight more (the cmd+space key combination) to launch apps. GNOME has very similar system, and to be honest, a bit better than spotlight, but spotlight is really good for launching apps. Second best place to launch apps are your Dock, any frequently used app MUST be placed on Dock (at least I do). 2. Keyboard: I suggest you switch your alt and windows keys around, macs has command key next to the spacebar key. It removes the ctrl finger syndrome. 3. Short cuts: get comfortable with these key combinations ( support.apple.com/en-us/HT201236 ): - cmd+Tab (app switching, with ability to close an app WHILE in tab switcher mode - hold cmd, press tab to open the app switcher BUT keep holding cmd, highlight the app you want to close, tap the Q key to close), - cmd+S (to save changes to a document), cmd+shift+S to save as dialog/sheet. - cmd+F to find, then cmd+G to do find next, and cmd+shift+G to find previous, very comfortable to press, and quite logical IMHO compared to ctrl+F then F3. - cmd+W (to close current window), - cmd+Q (to quit apps), this is Far better than alt+F4 IMHO, in Windows, with apps running in taskbar, alt+F4 does not always quit a running app, very inconsistent. - cmd+, (cmd + comma, to open the app's preferences). Windows has nothing in this manner, I don't know much about Linux's Desktop Environment. These made me want to go back to macOS. macOS's super consistent key combination for doing mundane tasks are consistent across all apps. Want to close a tab in a web browser, cmd+W. Want to close an app, cmd+Q. Want to open preference/settings in an app, cmd+, . It's very consistent. In windows, some apps use ctrl+f4, some use other key combination. To close an app, usually you press alt+f4 UNLESS the app is running in the taskbar area, if so, you need to right click the app in the taskbar, then click exit. I will get this in the next point. It's weird in Windows/Linux land. I haven't been using Linux desktop since I moved to macOS. nowadays I use Windows because Apple made really horrible machines with horrible price/performance ratio. 4. Window management and menu bar, I prefer macOS's way of arranging apps/windows, Windows's/Linux's MDI interface changed when macOS risen in popularity. Back then, in Windows, there's one huge parent window that hosts smaller "document" windows. This is MDI style. This becomes a problem when you have 2 or more displays, and if ACCIDENTALLY closed the parent window, all of your child/document windows are also gone. Once I started using macOS as my main OS some 8 years ago, I like how it manage my applications. I remember the days where I have Steinberg NUENDO open, and it uses the whole screen when I maximize it, and it has many child windows in it, and I need to span it across two of my monitors with the help of Nvidia NVIEW, it was not pretty. Compared to macOS's document window system, it's a lot better, I can maximize any apps on any monitor, and I don't give a damn about it. Now, about that top, permanently showing menu bar: if I'm active at Google Chrome, the top menu bar will show me Google Chrome's menus, the document windows of Chrome does not need to have a menu bar at all. If I click one of Logic Pro's document window, the menu bar will switch to Logic Pro's menu bar, if I click Photoshop's window, the menu bar will switch to Photoshop's menu, so on and so forth. This made menu bar consistent across all apps, and this is VERY IMPORTANT. If I want to close everything but I want to leave Chrome running so when I need to open it for a quick browse, I don't need to wait for it to start up - and macOS's way to manage application/memory is smarter than Windows, for sure.This style, in time, is adopted by Windows, but their way of applying this is weird, Windows apps will use tiny icons running in taskbar area to manage "running in the background apps", which is REALLY weird once I grasped the idea. Just keep a "dock area" that shows all running apps, each app can have many "document" windows, closing "document" windows does not close the app, keep the app running so I won't need to wait for it to start up every time I need it, and have one menu bar at the top of the screen to reduce clutter of varying applications running. This way I don't need to have a "taskbar icon area" and have tiny apps running all over it, I can see clearly my menu bar of ANY ACTIVE application, no need to make a "modern" app that does not have a menu bar, we need menu bars, no need to innovate something that is clearly does not need innovation, for example, Firefox will show a normal menu bar if you tap the alt key. There are many more that made macOS easier for me to use compared to Windows/Linux, but for now, these are the ones that I think are related to your video topic.
Fun fact: "BSD General Commands Manual" is in the header of every man page in macOS (e.g. "man locate", "man ls", etc.); EXCEPT for commands added by Apple (e.g. "man nvram"), of which there are not many. macOS is just Apple's distro of BSD. macOS is Apple's most profitable product, by margin. Imagine the investment required to MODIFY a distro of BSD, which must be compatible with only a few dozen hardware configurations (i.e. the iMacs, Macs and MacBooks released over the past 13 years, minus those models which are "no longer supported"). Next, imagine selling macOS with Apple's entry-level configuration (Mac mini): $800 - $300 (parts and assembly) = $500. Finally, imagine selling macOS with Apple's top configuration (Mac Pro): $53,000 - $32,000 (parts and assembly) = $21,000... for a SINGLE software license. macOS upgrades are "free"? Sure. Until Apple stops supporting the model a user is using. The macOS upgrade after that... costs between $500 and $21,000... USD. Given Apple's design-flaws and defect-rate, many users must pay Apple... again... long before Apple selects their model for extinction. AppleCare+ and out-of-pocket repair are not free. Curiously, out-of-pocket repair is often priced such that replacement seems the wiser option. Replacement is Apple's preferred "repair" option. And, good luck getting Apple to honor their 1-year warranty. Apple alleges (almost) every defect is warranty-voiding "user-inflicted damage" (i.e. liquid-intrusion sensors which react to high humidity or "you must have dropped it... or used it wrong" ...or used it in Starbucks?). Standing behind their products is something Apple does RELUCTANTLY. Repair programs for ongoing, 3-year-old defects are not the same as a RECALL. Has Apple ever issued a recall for any of their defective models? smh Wac. It just breaks. CrApple. Stink different. (Sent from my 2019 Lenovo laptop... running MX Linux. Because both my 2008 Mac mini and my 2015 MacBook Air broke within 1 year of 1st-use. Fool me twice... shame on me.)
Great video, but your point about it being a hackintosh you can't really fault Apple for that, weather or not as Linux users we agree with Apple keeping MacOS hardware specific doesn't matter. Mac users won't ever have to mess with kexts, or bootloaders on Apple hardware.
@5:47 agreed. AppStore is going to shift tremendously in quality once iOS apps show up in Big Sur. without touchscreen, it will be interesting to see how practical these apps will be to use.
My main grudge with windows back in the 2000's was how it hogged screen real estate. MacOS had this single place for everything without getting in the way. Currently running an ancient imac from 2011 (which is still working great :D) and a PC with windows/Kubuntu in dual boot. about to dive in to a KVM setup after a bit of research.
I started on Win XP back in 2005. Was doing some web design and bit of coding. Then music, since 2007. Quickly I was interested by Linux, I tried various distros like Ubuntu, Suse, Mandriva etc. But something was always missing. The big point was music creation tools. So I heard of Mac OS and how it was great and blablabla. Was skeptical. I didn't have enough money at that time to buy a Mac. But I saw it was possible to install Mac OS on an Intel PC Hardware. My Hackintosh journey begun 😄 I loved the overall feel and graphical cleanness and experience of the OS (for that time it was honestly the best and the most fluid), with the terminal and the Unix. Then I bought a white MacBook (2008 model I think). Then I got the aluminum unibody one. I loved I!. I had my Unix like tools and my design and music creation apps. Then in 2014 I started my photography and videography journey. After a quick experience on Adobe Premiere I quickly started to use Final Cut Pro X. The question to go back to Windows or Linux as a daily driver was not even in the air 😄 I got my MacBook Air as a secondary computer and a Hackintosh Intel PC as my main machine. With the arrival of Apple Silicon, I sold the Hackintosh PC and gone full M1 Pro 16" Macbook. It's silent, sleek, the battery works for hours, the HDR monitor is phenomenal for video and design work! And bla-bla-bla, everything you probably already know about these devices. In short, to unlock the full potential of Mac OS you really need to use an Apple device. Cause like you mentioned in the video, the "natural scrolling", with a traditional PC mouse is just a joke. At the beginning of the last year (2022) I started another journey! Yes I will never stop I think 😂 I started my 3D animation/design journey. I tried to use my Macbook with Cinema 4D. It was a nice experience, GUI wise, but for now the rendering (the process which consists of exporting a photorealistic image) speed is really far away from what NVIDIA can do with their Ray Tracing cores. So I made a pretty well spect PC workstation with a 16 core Ryzen CPU, 64GB of RAM and an RTX 3090. I used Windows 11 for one year now. As a Mac user, I actually kinda loved the new taskbar with the icons in the middle, cause it really reminds me of Mac OS 😄 I tried some 3D creation apps, like Cinema 4D, Houdini and Blender. And then I saw that Houdini and (obviously) Blender was available on Linux. As I was never really a Windows guy, I decided to try the new Linux world that I leaved for about a decade now (as a desktop daily driver). I Installed Fedora 38, and now I successfully use Blender and Houdini as a 3D artist. I like this new journey on my PC and think of ditching Windows completely. But I thinks I still need to have it, mainly because of SolidWorks and Cinema 4D, the 2 programs I can't have on Linux, even if I found some alternatives. Linux has made a long way, to the point where many professional apps are now available, like Davinci Resolve, Blender, SideFX Houdini, Autodesk Maya, Bitwig Studio and so on. You even have Adobe Substance Painter/Designer. The only thing that is missing is Photoshop and Illustrator for me. Or Affinity suite. But definitely for a laptop use, until now, I can't find a more comfortable machine than a Macbook. What I realize now after all these years is that: - With Linux, you get the freedom, but only if you're willing to put in some work and time. - With Apple and Mac OS, you get the convenience, fluid user experience and optimized performance and all of that out of the box! It's really important for a mobile device. Especially the software + hardware optimization part.
For me, the scrolling especially when using a trackpad just makes sense. If you had a long piece of paper on the table, to see the stuff lower down you would place your finger on the paper and push it up, which is why I think Apple calls it Natural. With an external mouse it may seem counterintuitive though so on a Mac desktop I would probably use the Windows / Linux way, on a MacBook with trackpad I would use the Apple Natural way.
Why do people use MacOS ? As an audio guy (live sound and pro musician), I have a very simple answer: Core Audio is MASSIVELY superior to ASIO. Like, by a mile. Which makes DAWs more stable, hence maximizing uptime. In the pro audio world, it's mostly Macs, a few Windows boxes here and there, and Linux is not a thing.
The only main thing I noticed is on the free version, encoding options are basically stripped compared to macOS and Windows. You have to pay for Studio if you want h264, which to me is ridiculous. I'd much rather make a macOS VFIO/KVM just to run Davinci on for that reason.
My main reason for using it is age. When I was young I loved wasting time figuring things out and customising things. However the older I got I realised that most of this was a waste of time with no real added value. I just want a computer which works and allows me to get the things done I need to get done. I was an ardent Windows user for many years and saw the reduced number of software packages for Mac as a serious disadvantage. But then my Mother needed a new computer and a friend advised Mac. My Mother was not computer savvy having grown up before personal computers were a thing. So looking at Mac OS and how easy it was to do things (eg connecting to wifi for example all you have to do was click on the wifi icon at the top and you see immediately the available wifi routers and can connect - on Windows at the time you had to dig through multiple things to find this and if you were not doing it regularly it was easy to forget how to do it) convinced me. Her computer was more or less exactly the same in terms of CPU etc as my work laptop. But when she switched it on it came on almost immediately. My Windows laptop at this point took about a minute to boot up. This convinced me to look further and finally buy my own Mac. I loved it and wished I had switched years before. It is not perfect and to be honest I‘m worried ever since Steve Jobs passed that Mac OS has become more and more complex and less and less stable but it is still leap years ahead of my Windows workstation in terms of simplicity and reliability. I just wish more professional software was made for the Mac so I could get rid of Windows altogether. I have a friend in IT who says he hates Macs because his clients with Macs rarely need support but he really loves Windows as he can make a lot of money from Windows users. He is the one who recommended I get a Mac for my mother and uses one himself.
The solution I have to gaming and 64 bit only on Catalina is I use Parallels Desktop. Which is a VM but it uses some local resources so gaming and 32 bit apps can run well in either Linux or Windows. I use macOS for Logic and Final Cut.
I need to check out Parallels again, it has been so long since I used it, but I remember it convergence mode was the best. You could run it without having a full desktop. Then again, that was the Win 7 days.
I'm a Windows user who uses macOS for work and god. It's AMAZING. Updates aren't shoved down your throat, it's clean and nice, and it just WORKS. I have to admit apple knows what they are doing and Microsoft has been taking note with 11.
Have you tried using Davinci Resolve on Linux and how does it compare? Snazzy Labs (mostly Apple focused channel) did a video on why their editor moved from Mac to Pop OS for video editing with Resolve. So I wonder which one is better.
I've used Resolve on both Linux and Mac. The free version doesn't support H.264 import on Linux due to codec shenanigans, whereas it's fully supported on Mac and Windows (even in the free version).
@@WolfgangsChannel So there is a reason to use Resolve on Mac OS, interesting! I expected Linux experience to be better. Also hi, cool to see you here.
That is amazing. For Linux you need nVidia as the AMD card support for DaVinci isn't there yet. However, I'm rocking a Vega64 and macOS with DaVinci works great. So it depends on your hardware.
I tried almost all relevant video editing apps on linux, and even I need to convert everything from mp4 to mov and from mp3 to wav in order to use davinici resolve - my opinion is that you cannot compare anything with resolve . Kdenlive and shotcut are like a kids toy vs davinci resolve....
Apple eco system helps me a lot to concentrate on work and not compatibility issues, update issues and so on. Tried windows and it was a horrible experience.
@@MichaelSharpTechniSmart Exactly. When I was on Linux, I thought that Terminator is the best, but now I see that iTerm2 has the same functionality + it is more stable.
wow 2 years since you started using Linux? Damn I didn't realize I followed you for that time already! Keep up the good work! I started usind Pop_OS last month and dualboot Windows just for gaming.
Thank you, Chris. I used Apple in the late 80s up until Win 95. Apple was the alternative to Big Metal. The Ridley Scott ad of the woman smashing Big Brother? That was my Mac. When NeXT came out it was just insanely expensive. These days I have no idea why Mac is so appealing.
I think (as a mac, windows and linux user (just setup linux on an XPS 6 months ago, just used it in a VM and one of my desktops before that)), mac is appealing because most of the time it just works (When it does not it can be a colossal shitshow tho). I will happily pay their bloated prices and not as good hardware for the amount of time I have saved using it (Time I can now spend responding to comments on YT). Also the quality of apps is better IMO. If it happens to fit your workflow it is a good piece of software, sadly it just runs on subpar hardware.
Emad Ahmed never having to fix anything, no driver issues etc. have not had any issues with drivers not working like I would on Linux machines of past and don’t have to spend time actually making development tolerable in windows.also most apps I use just seem to be better polished like the Omni productivity suite thing, taskpaper, karabiner, Alfred, bear notes, iterm etc. esp for paid apps. Things have changed a little over the past 2-3 years with electron etc making it hyper easy to develop for all platforms.
Emad Ahmed A Mac user is much more likely to pay you for an app so even if market share is low, you may end up making more money. Some people limit themselves to making Mac/iOS apps for that reason as far as I can tell and are more inclined to make em better (just my hypothesis).
@Emad Ahmed Ok mate, I am going to be as polite as possible but I just lost my NAS to a crashed volume so I dont have much patience right now (I know this may not be the most courteous thing for me to respond but you you weren't courteous either). What I gave in the initial comment was a my subjective personal opinion about the hardware and my experience. Your comment was a question asking me to go into detail about it, and I explained my subjective stance based on my experience in detail. I really dont care how you judge my subjective opinion. I have 10+ computers (collected over the last decade), they use some have linux, some have windows, some are macs and I even have a chromebook, i really dont care. I just limit my primary dev machine to mac for now to save on time. I have been very unlucky with every windows laptop I have bought. I have failed to find good alternatives for apps that I use and that is down to my workflow. I find apple hardware to be subpar because the keyboard sucks, because it is almost impossible to repair by design and because I find the overall package ugly all subjective stances. I dont need someone to change my opinion and I am not trying to change someone else's. OP said "These days I have no idea why Mac is so appealing" and I merely tried to explain what I found appealing about macs. I hate every OS to a certain degree because if you just look at them as tools and ignore the philosophy behind them all of them have trade-offs, mac simply had the best combination of positives and negatives to match my use-case. Thanks for reading my wall of text. I would suggest in the future that you dont explain things to strangers on the internet as if schooling a kid about his/her remarks and instead add to the conversation and that way people might be inclined to talk in a better manner. OR dont, it is your call.
That's kind of my take on the Mac as well. After 20 years with various Linux distributions, I inherited an iMac from an estate. Quite different from your take, though, my Linux box which has double the ram and double the capacity, sits idly next to me on the desk, and I find myself using the Mac all the time. Feeling a bit guilty. Back in the infancy of Linux, I learned commands and figuring out how things work. As Linux matured, I found myself using it for videos, email, etc., and point and click stuff. So the Mac for me does what I used the Linux box for. One thing I notice is that the hardware is beautifully made and nice to use, and as far as video and audio go, it just works.
Nice video! You don’t get that kinda review from many people that don’t use macOS. I switch to macOS after a debate with my sister with her iPhone. I been using some version of macOS since late last year. I can say I don’t regret switching to macOS. There are four main reasons why I choose macOS as my main operating system. First is Microsoft Office, I need outlook for my job & don’t really like the web version. Second the simplicity & privacy of macOS, most of the time it just works, not spending hours on configuration settings in Linux when it is updated. Third comes down to integration with the ecosystem. (Need a real Macintosh) Handoff, iMessage, AirDrop are just a few features I come to like in the Apple ecosystem. Let’s not forget iCloud is integrated into all their operating systems. Finally the forth reason is because of development I can do most of my development on my Mac. I only have to load windows or Linux when debugging an Application for that OS. Oh one last thing, the Command key is actually the ALT on a Mac style keyboard. While the option key is the Windows key. With the Command key being the ALT on a Mac it becomes more convenient with using hot keys. The key is closer to the other keys, so it doesn’t seem like you are trying to reach the size of a football field. But it does take a few weeks of use to get used to the new keyboard.
Emad Ahmed Yes, I couldn’t find a Linux version I like very well. I used one version of Linux to another for 2 years prior to switching to macOS. I really don’t know why you would say I doesn’t matter coming from Windows. macOS is completely different operating systems and act very different from one another. I still use different operating systems for my job, but prefer macOS as my primary operating system.
Emad Ahmed macOS is not Linux! Yes it run a Unix-Core, but it can become complicated to install Linux programs in macOS. GTK or KDE application look out of place in macOS. If you have a 32-bit application I wouldn’t even look at macOS, they no longer support 32-bit libraries. Take all that in mind too when debating to use macOS. If you are not invested in the ecosystem you won’t have the experience that I have on a daily basis. Their are other great Linux os like popos, arch, and my favorite desktop Linux SolusOS. You just have to find what you personally like. Tome is also a factor to me that is why I chose macOS. I want to get stuff done in my day, not fight with my computer too get things working.
Danny Kirkham Yes, you are correct! The reason why I would mention that is because of Legacy Application. Some people can’t upgrade because those applications don’t work. Custom development cost thousands of dollars, so people don’t wish to update the code base. I and other developers I know work on old legacy application all the time. To keep things simple I will explain as easy as possible. 64-bit = x64 processor type. The processor architect type, it is how the processor communicates with software and the rest of the hardware on you computer. With x86 which is the 32-bit processor type you are limited to how much ram each application can use and other limitations. While are far as I know there is no limitations to the 64-bit processor type. The limitations is that most software company’s have the code base and update it when it needs to be updated. Luckily for Apple they gave every advance notice so most the applications could just be recompiled to the x64 architect. There is more details involved but I not going to get into the biggest differences between these technology. The 32-bit code is still able to run on a 64-bit processor. Operating system like Windows and many Linux version still support some type of 32-bit binary in the operating system. While most of them only support these binary for game development. Binary are the API or how a programs talk with the operating system, all operating system have them. They just work differently between operating system. I hope this help explain this, there is a lot more to this technology.
I used a mac as my main computer for years, and found the shortcuts and other productivity items to be amazing. The cost, and generally sub-par hardware + weird security items makes me lean more to linux.
What do you mean the cost and subpar hardware? Even Linus Tech Tips (not an Apple fan) admits that for the specifications and build quality, Apple does not rip people off on their computers. They are competitively priced.
I've found Mac hardware to be great. I dare you to find any laptop with a trackpad as good as a MacBook Pro. However, I agree about the "weird security" that has come to the Mac in the past decade; that's one of my reasons for switching to Linux this year.
From a long time MAC user. It's great, but far too expensive. My last macbook cost 1200 and now it's redundant to any updates. My Current ThinkPad cost me 55. Runs great with Linux.
one thing i like about MacOS was their trackpad functionality, the switch between workspaces were seamless and scrolling a web page, word document, excel was easy. I too, use the brew commands a lot . first thing i installed was neofetch (first command i learn on Linux a few years ago) haha. I was using a macbook pro 2012 edition and i decided to test out linux on this macbook and the first thing i noticed was the fan was suddenly spinning loudly. I was initially surprised because during my usage on MacOS on that macbook, the fan hardly makes a sound. Of course, later on, i was reminded that MacOS does throttle their system to contain the fan's potential usage. I also hated their appstore, it felt ugly but nothing as bad as Microsoft store. I remembered when Catalina came out, i was like cool, i'll just update, nothing can be as bad as a windows 10 update....post update, some apps don't work anymore, it felt clunky to an extend (ironically, not as bad as Windows 10). I honestly don't hate windows..ok i don't like 10 a lot. I love windows 7, it was working, i didn't care about any OS, and i maximize my time with music and video production and i came back to Windows 7 from 10 a few years ago because of a weird Wifi issue, where if it downloaded a big enough file, the driver will fail but on W7, i had no issues so instead of trying to figure out the reasons, i just switched. However, W7 was close to end of life so i went W10, the Wifi issue still existed so i would use my phone as an internet connection (plugged in via USB) but then the shit updates started pouring in. i think this was in 2018 when it started to make me hate it more and then i tried Linux . Out of the box, my wifi, was working. I love linux and i support its growth, but i do not like some of their err, passionate fanboys..i don't like fanboys, i like super fans, but not some religious police level of blind support. Hence why i like Chris Titus, he doesn't seem to be a typical linux "arch user" and i do admit, the community of linux is way less toxic than it was (for me) in the early 2000s. Plus the growth of linux is good..it just needs some marketing exposure imo and there should be room for paid apps. I believe people should be paid for their good hard work. I just don't agree with greedy ones. eh, adobe. hehe.
MacOS is toy OS, it was made for kids. This OS don't treat me as computer admin but rather than limited user which is terrible. I rather use Windows even Windows XP rather than MacOS crap.
lol, absolutely not. Just alone the fact that logging in as root is possible and any file is touchable (with integrity protection disabled) makes it much more "adult" than windows.
Because POSIX compliance + huge software support (proprietary and FLOSS). And because it is the only platform where developers really cares about consistency of user experience. And consistency equals predictability and productivity.
I started using the Mac because I had to make apps. I then noted that whatever you attach to the system, simply works. That's not so much the case today, but then, Windows and Linux would rarely accept flawlessly a printer, a bluetooth device or some exotic hardware. For quite some time I tried to "break" the Mac, with all sorts of peripherals, with scarse success. Even with handmade hardware, the Mac tried hard to make things work. And sometimes succeeded even then. I appreciate very much the fact that voice recognition works close to perfect and allows me to write large documentation by loudly thinking. I then pass over the text and correct manually, but most of the times I am happy with the results. This feature is really useful for writers. I have tried so many hard- and software solutions, but only the Mac nails it. For a while I was convinced that software was better than on other OS's, but then I learned the truth: It's enough to think different in order to get accepted in the app store, and I found a lot of examples where developers have not thought at all ... which is a sort of different thinking, I admit 😊 Apple tries hard to seem close to customers, but in the end, their only concern is to make money and do nothing in exchange. Even this is quite a different way to think, but it is incompatible with my ethics. I am alienated by the concept of calling (and employing) "genius" people in shops. I am convinced that everybody is in their field a genius, but what Apple does, is arrogant. And arrogance and stupidity are going hand in hand. So here it is, my honest opinion about the Mac and its OS, and its makers and doers.
Sir you missed the most important point for the developers....Mobile App developers specially need a mac to compile souce code for IOS apps....on windows or linux we are not able to compile apps for ios...So that we can't be able to build apps with the modern technologies like flutter,ionic,react native,xamrin forms etc.
@@muhammadusmankhan6761 You should be able to do that at least for a few years, till apple phases out intel and the x86 architecture in general completely from support. Just search forums for hackintoshing (not linking directly to anywhere you can do such) Disclaimer: It's against apple's EULA to put macOS on something that's not a mac that apple supports w/ the version you are trying to use (yes, that also means installing a newer macOS than what is officially supported by apple also would be against their EULA) [also it might be technically illegal depending on where you are]
You wrong bro, you can keep compile android and ios on non mac device, if you react native developer you still can use expo. But still if you have paid apple developer id. It's not lack of compatibility but only if you have 99 USD money or not.
Why do you need global shortcuts to launch specific apps when you can just do Command-space, ch to, for example, launch or switch to the last active Chrome window? It's easier than trying to contort your fingers to do one keystroke with several modifier keys.
I love my Windows computer. I can edit videos on it, I can edit audio on it, I can modify pictures with it. There's an abundance of software available. I can buy any hardware for it and know that it will work. I haven't gotten a blue screen of death since before Windows 7. For the price of a Macintosh, I can have a killer Windows computer. And finally, "my Windows 10 computer just works."
Before Windows 10 I would have said the same. But now I'd rather take a Mac over Windows 10's garbage unless you are a PC gamer. Most creative software is as good or better than Windows on the Mac without them spying on you or updating in the middle of your work.
I'm not sure what your talking about when you say Windows interrupts your work with updates. I've never had that happen. With regards to Apple not spying on you, are you sure? You may want to look into that. Also, what exactly is "garbage software"? If the software does what I need it to do, whether free, or for a price, and does so easily and efficiently, like Google Chrome, how is it garbage? Since it will probably come up next; yes, Windows has more virus threats due to its large install base. However, in my many years of using Windows, I have yet to download a virus. And I'll end by saying "Windows just works".
@@prima6170 Apple does not sell user data while Microsoft does. Apple charges (and overcharges for its services) but does not sell user data. Ask Microsoft if Windows 10 pro is HIPPA compalint they will stay quiet and point to the enterprise version whereas Apple says OS X is HIPPA compliant. You can completely disable the telemetry in MacOS but can't do in Windows 10. Using Windows is like paying someone to spy on you lmao. Yes I have checked this. Windows has become trash since Staya Nadella became CEO. By garbage software I mean Windows itself. I do agree that viruses on Windows is mostly user error since Vista. UAC system has stopped a lot of easy hacks you could do in XP and 98 and stuff. If Windows just works, Macs work wayy better as you don't have to deal with untested driver updates and botched patches by Microsoft's untalented developer team while also having way better battery efficiency and better hardware. If you have money, there is no reason to use Windows for your personal machine unless you are a PC gamer. And if you don't have too many proprietary software that you need to run then Linux is a great choice as well on PC hardware. I myself have switched to Linux for most of my stuff. And may get a ARM Mac laptop if they release it next year.
@@bored78612 bgr.com/2017/06/06/apple-spying-on-iphone-users I'm glad you're happy with your Apple products. I'm also sorry you've had such bad luck with Windows that you found a switch was necessary. I think the botched updates you are referring to happened a while back. I Haven't had any problems in recent memory. For my part, I find my Windows computer serves me quite well. I can do all the things I've already mentioned quite effectively and efficiently. I like the vast selection of software and the scalability it affords me. Enjoy your Apple products. Best of luck to you, and happy computing. 😉 👍
There seem to be two opinions on MacOS in the comments, people who just want stuff to work without having to do anything to tweak their system for their preferences, and people who heavily tweak it to make it basically linux.
Fun fact: the MacOS extended attributes are dated back to HFS+, and because of that MS had to implement them in NTFS (so you can copy files from Mac to Win and back and retain these attributes), so now each file in NTFS can have "alternate data streams" which are not seen anywhere but the command line, and are actually exploited by viruses, because all the alternate data streams do not add to the file size, so the viruses can just put their payload and you won't know that! For more info google for "NTFS ADS".
I'm not sure when the GUI utilized the ADS for the first time but ADS itself was available with NT 3.1 in 1993. But you are right that the reason was the mac. It was because of the resource forks for the Services for Macintosh (SFM). So it was not because of the HFS+.
On the topic of shortcuts and automator, something I didn't see you talk about at all is Spotlight search. Command + Space opens Spotlight, which in my opinion, is the absolute best search you can get on a desktop OS. I very rarely feel the need for keybindings to open programs when I can get to it via Spotlight in seconds.
There's drag and drop system-wide, including into the terminal. You can drag and drop text, files (for their path), whatever. To launch an app quicker, CMD+Space and type it's name. Automator is awesome. But the best thing about MacOS for me is how easy it is for doing daily stuff. Separating CMD+Tab (alternating applications) from CMD+~ (alternating windows) is outstandingly productive. CMD+Q is also pretty useful for multi window apps. It's really a great system for power users, without the headaches of Linux. Also, if you're into color accuracy, MacOS' handling of color profiles for monitors is just... It just works. Specially in multimonitor setups. Mirroring two monitors and want to have different profiles? Sure. Windows doesn't do that. Besides, Windows leaves much of it to the software developer to implement. Linux hardly even handles color profiles.
While I agree with you technically 90+ %, I have to say: very few Mac OS users open terminal. For them it's mainly Finder, go to Apps, run the program or create aliases on the desktop. I've Mac users gasp when I open a terminal: it's that UN-used. So this seems to be viewed by Penguin Glasses, if you can dig. Not a bad review at all, just not at the level of why Mac OS users would really use it.
The #1 reason I've switched back to a Mac multiple times (and I still use my 2015 MBP 15" even though I just bought a brand new Zephyrus G14 in April) is the hardware support and performance for creative applications. For audio especially, nothing works as well on Windows or Linux as it does on a mac, or at least none of the audio hardware I've ever owned). Shit just works, no audio stuttering, roboting, driver installing issues, none of it. The kernel for Darwin just plain handles this kind of work better. I've done a lot of linux audio tuning to try to get low latency audio going on creative focused distros and it ends up being tons of work for less than stellar results. The experience I've had since switching back to Windows full time for the first time in close to a decade has just been awful. Driver installation issues, poor audio quality when using my nice hardware for video meetings, just a rediculous let down. Mac is just the simplest platform for any kind of creative production, its decent for my day job (web development), and good at sitting around consuming content too. The only real reason I don't use it daily any more is that performance for Docker based development is attrocious and the hardware is expensive (and while I've built a Hackintosh, its just a lot of work to maintain). Just my two cents as a user of Linux, Mac, and Windows.
As a musician who currently does not have a Mac, I miss macOS every day. Hoping to be able to get a Mac in the next few months, but at least for now I don't have to use Windows
The performance should be equal unless you are doing something wrong. The hardware inside a Mac and a PC is the same depending on how much you are willing to spend on the Mac or PC. If you have a Skylake i5 mac with 2400Mhz RAM and an Icelake i9 with 4000Mhz RAM PC, you're PC is going to outperform the Mac. And the statement "the kernel for Darwin just plain handles this stuff better." What exactly do you think the MacOS kernel is doing with regard to your software's performance? The only difference the kernel makes is that any hardware will be better suited to 'plug and play' on the Mac. But as both machines are Intel and will probably be running the same software, driver support vs a plug and play kernel will have a miniscule effect on overall performance. It seems your mistaking familiarity and your inability to do some basic installing as a problem with the software you're running.
@@MaffeyZilog scheduling audio ahead of other tasks. I encourage you to research how different kernels handle audio scheduling. It makes a significant difference in audio workflows. How you code your kernel optimizes for different workflows, there is a lot of info about this on the web in regards to Linux and the rt kernel mod for the curious
@@thatdustinleblanc I'll be honest and admit I don't know enough about audio processing in general to debate the point with you so I'll have to take your word for it. It certainly seems more complicated on the low level than what I initially assumed. Apologies if my initial tone was a little abrasive.
Amazing Video Chris, reflects perfectly as a fellow Linux user coming from Windows. A lot of the things you expect to work as an Unix system, but with that uneasiness if something won't work sometimes (especially those keybindings or any 'hidden' things your OS is doing it for you)
Could your problems with the App Store be related to it being a Hackintosh? I have used the App Store for like forever and never ran into an issue installing stuff. Truth be told, I'm still on Mojave... maybe Catalina will ruin my experience, but so far it's been flawless :D
Hate the Mac App Store it's just about as bad as he makes it out to be, on the other hand it's way better than Microsoft's sad excuse for an app store. After getting use to Linux package managers, I find both very frustrating, adding to that, some of those package managers have become very slick over the last decade.
Judging by all the lit up apps in your dock, i think I need to give you a hint on how to exit a macOS program. Pressing the red button on the top left of a window on Mac doesn’t quit out of the application instance. It only closes the window. You have to press cmd+Q or select the application menu in the menu bar for the active application and click on quit.
As a Linux person, macOS feels insultingly limited. Pretty much every time I want to configure something, I find out that it's either impossible or extremely cumbersome to configure it the way I want. All of the package management options are half baked or only half-integrated, so managing software with them feels very clunky, and the results are messy and stateful. Integration between the native components' command line functionality and GUI functionality is shockingly poor, considering that Apple controls the whole stack. Window management and input handling are somehow even worse on macOS than on Wkndows. Blech. Just a deeply frustrating experience overall.
Apple reminds me of Android somewhat: Me: I'll just delete these Google Apps I never use. TapTap....WTF? Android: I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't allow you to do that. Me: Screw you, Android. I'll go root! (Tries to use rooting tools, none work) WTF? Android: Would you like to download more apps, Dave? Me: Sure, Android...you do that....(starting to unscrew memory chips)
I switched from MacOS to Ubuntu this year, and I actually found Gnome 3 to be even less configurable than MacOS. I found the MacOS integration between the command line and the GUI to be fairly good. Using the "open" command, you can open a file from the command line in the GUI application it is associated with. And if you drag files from the Finder onto the Terminal, they turn into the absolute pathname of the file. Both of these features are insanely useful, and I used them all the time.
Mac is more for people who want to use the computer as a tool and the OS be out of the way and never have to think about it (just works). Linux is more for the person who likes to spend most of their time tinkering with the computer itself. For a former computer shop owner like myself it doesn't get better than MacOS. I also have two macs that run Linux in my home.
I think I have a rather interesting experience. As a teacher we are given student and teacher issues laptops. The laptops actually vary and come from 2 or 3 companies. Granted these are all free laptops but let’s talk about the obvious question and that is can students use them for basic school needs? The answer was sure most of the time but often times, I found many laptops to have nonstop updates and overheating issues. The laptops would sometimes become unresponsive, reboot, and then start updating again. And while I’m sure some of it had to do with the school not setting the laptops up properly on day one, I found a completely different experience with macs. A class set of iMacs we use for a writing class I don’t think I ever saw shut off for no reason. They all ran smoothly and functioned for the every day consumer without issue. the result is me investing more in apple and less in other companies. Even better for sophisticated companies won’t receive a cent from me due to how complicated they seem to be on the user end.
The desktop trackpad really makes the Mac experience for me! It kills me that scroll direction natural setting applies to both mouse and trackpad- you can't differentiate. I'd like "natural" for the track pad, but Not with the mouse. Too much to ask apparently. Currently I can 4 finger swipe between remote and vm desktops with my Mac seamlessly. This is top 5 coolest things imo.
Do you use the Magic Mouse? I find it works really intuitively when scrolling naturally on that device. The same can't be said though when I plug in the mouse I use for gaming which uses a scroll wheel. When I've finished gaming but continue to use it for browsing, I notice I would definitely prefer the windows conventional scroll direction. So it depends on which mouse I'm using.
The inverted mouse scrolling makes a lot of sense when using a Magic Mouse. With a scroll wheel, not so much. The problem comes when you want to use different mice, one Magic Mouse and one regular one. There are tools that can help you out, but natively, you can only select one scroll setting system wide, not different ones for different mice. As for gaming, the situation isn’t as bad. Most games that exist on Linux also exist on the Mac. Still, it’s of course no gaming machine and with the switch to ARM chips, all GPU support is gone. The biggest plus is of course the Apple ecosystem. It is a golden cage of course as it kinda locks you in, but it’s just so convenient. Sure, you can do all of that using Linux and Android, but you will have to fiddle a lot before it all works. Using the Cmd button is a bit weird for a while, but it makes sense (you’re entering a command after all, you’re not controlling anything) and it works particularly well when working with the terminal (the shift+ctrl thingy always annoys me). What does kinda suck when using a keyboard with a non-English layout is the mapping of the alt/opt key to the super key. You can turn it on or off in the terminal settings, but neither setting works for all cases. But then I assume you‘d have similar issues on Linux as well. The software situation is of course a great plus compared to Linux. There’s just a whole lot more. Though I don’t want to use Microsoft Office. The Apple suite which is included actually isn’t all that bad, in fact, it is pretty good in most cases. Overall, it does however feel as if they have stagnated a lot over the last decade or so.
Because if someone spent 15 years on Windows it doesn't make sense to learn all new shortcuts and workflow. It is just a pain if someone wants to do some actual work.
I have used windows, linux and mac. But overall i prefer mac os. The reason is i can have stuff in both linux and windows world. i can have most of terminal functionalities while running Photoshop and after effect. It increases my productivity as a developer.i like the way they manage workspaces with supper responsive gestures.
I had to use MacOS a few times and the keyboard differences were a headache because I wasn't familiar with them, but I think conceptually they're done much better than on the other platforms. Most common actions are done with Cmd which is a thumb key located on either side of the spacebar. Opening or closing a new tab is Cmd+T and Cmd+W both in the browser and terminal. Copying and pasting is Cmd+C and Cmd+V, again, also in terminal (Ctrl+C stops programs so there's no conflict). Switching windows also uses Cmd. That's vastly superior to the approach used in other platforms, where Ctrl and hence the pinky finger is used the most for modifiers.
The Mac scroll gesture is the same as every touch screen devices on the market, like idevices and Androids. Some of mac’s strength: color management, hidpi scaling, Spotlight (launching apps among other things), Apple’s own apps, mean bar on the top, virtual desktop “space,” Mac exclusive apps (with good looking UI). Try soundsource for audio management, it is a great app. Rectangle for windows snapping. IINA for a better default player. There a few Mac exclusive wallpaper apps that are very good, like pap.er (3rd party client for Unsplash). Hidden bar and bartender to cleanup the menu bar. Dropover for moving files.
@@fourseven9121 being hypocritic, gaming in linux is better than mac Edit: i think i can misunderstand someone, so what i said was he is being hypocritical about mac's having any gaming capabilities or having suport, and linux have a much abroad community working on it and linux have better hardware price,because,well, apple.
@@And_Rec You can't really trust those numbers because you have to opt in to that. Being that most Linux users don't want to opt into any sort of telemetry service for anyone, it makes sense to see it at 1%. That's sort of the funny thing when it comes to talking about market/gaming shares across the operating system spectrum.
@@And_Rec i dint said linux have bigger gaming share, i just said drivers and work on "gaming" tools are far better in linux, corectrl, driver support, wine and proton, *32-bit and 16-bit support for games*, and said that mac is not cappable for gaming at the same price point as u can buy a laptop that have good support for linux, you know, *a heatsink is really good to stop the CPU from overheating*
The one thing that people don't realize makes MacOS awesome is AppleScript. Working in a graphics production environment where you're dealing with tons of files that need to be processed routinely, the ability to set up hot folders that run scripts on the files allows you to do a LOT of work, faster and smoother than you could ever do it in Windows. The most recent company I worked for was Mac based and produced tons of different printed items (like banners, postcards, various types of signage, service programs etc), often from suites of products, and they have a system on their web site that allows customers to design their own products in a WYSIWYG interface. Being able to take their files and just drop them into the appropriate hot folder which processes and preps them for print is just so amazingly easy compared to the workflow in Windows. But yeah, basically for the power user, Linux > MacOS > Windows (although to be fair, Win 7 was equal to OSX because it was the best Windows and OSX is degrading itself over time). One problem with MacOS is that in the future (probably near future) Apple is going to screw it all up and try to force Mac users into iOS (or a more iOS like experience). Also the evils of closed source are 10 times worse with Apple than even Microsoft. For a non-techie, Windows is probably the best option because its ubiquitous.
I do believe this is the only reason which may someone should buy a Apple product. Linux (and even Windows) do the better or equal things than MacOS (mostly about hardware)
As a Mac user since G4... the first option I turn off on new install is natural scrolling 😂 A lot of people got the impression that macOS is very limiting due to the popularity of iOS, but imo that's never really been the case until very recently (Macs with T2 chip, Catalina, and upcoming switch to ARM, etc). Those changes (yes, including 'natural scrolling') come from Apple trying to align macOS to iOS, and they despise long-time Mac users as well.
I like that it does not seem to have become worse. Arm is actually a huge step forward perfomance-wise and not just a control-move. M1 Pro actually replaced my Hackintosh and for most people there will soon be no reason for Hackintoshing anymore, not even price. The fact that Apple still allows kexts, disabling of integrity protection, crossover and more is giving me hope for this platform.
The @ symbols mean that file uses an extended ACL (access control list), This also exists on Linux, shouldn't be new... The other thing is not related to this, the System Protection ensures that apps and other stuff just doesn't mess with your drivers, etc. That's what that Quarantine thing is also about. You can turn that off booting into the recovery partition, but I wouldn't recommend that, seriously. Installing kexts is also simple from the recovery partition. Inside the runng OS, it won't let you just do that... I hope this makes sense.
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As an enthusiast I'm a little surprised and disappointed over your scepticism of the shortcuts. Keyboard shortcuts and layout is the main reason I stay on Mac. It's so well thought through. You use your thumb to push the command or alt/option (which exists on both sides!) button, then one of your fingers to a letter or number. Some require alt/option (I'm old), control or shift also to be held down, which pretty much requires two hands to do, but that's by design, intended for more sensitive or rarely used commands, so you don't push it by mistake. Many commands are really intuitive. To quit a program, press ⌘+Q. To close a tab in a browser or sometimes close a windows inside a program or the program window without quitting, press ⌘+W. To open a tab, press ⌘+T. To switch windows *within an application* press ⌘+
Mac gaming is slowly improving since the release of Metal. Catalina broke many 32 bit games that were playable. Also, don’t forget eGPU support on Mac is pretty awesome and easy to setup.
Protip: Brew is the jank certain of a package manager for Mac. It gained popularity because it took shortcuts to get everything working... That if you're a systems guy obviously will either break security or mean Brew will break with updates (eventually). Warned folks about this years ago and... Watched Brew break with an upgrade. It interferes in/installs into system space. MacPorts had this had reputation years ago because... They were actually doing the hard infrastructure & respect-of-conventions route, and now it is a legit, solid manager. Not as many recipes or instructions but if you need stable, reliable software via a package sudden go MacPorts.
Install Linux on your Mac, a friend's imac 27 hdd died 4 years ago , fitted a SSD installed Ubuntu Mate , a bit of stuffing around to install. Worked a treat, super fast, great graphics. They abuse this never do any updates still runs fine.
I live mostly in Windows, but I love my MacBook Pro. Windows feels faster and the text on screen is sharper. My work computer is a 9 year old windows 7 machine with a quadcore i7. I've never had a blue screen. It's rock solid. Just a little slow for video editing. My MacBook Pro is a 2013 quad core i7. It's running Catalina and it's still very fast and stable. I need to reboot it much more often than windows. What I love about the Mac: - iMessage and iOS integration. Having text messages on the desktop is really convenient. Using airdrop to move files is great too. -no drivers needed for most audio hardware. -the trackpad and keyboard are awesome. -overall built quality is outstanding. Iv'e had it for about 6 years, and it still feels and looks like new. -when an app is on the app store, it works on all of your Macs, and it's easy to install. -Time machine is the only easy to use backup software I've ever seen. It's really easy to keep your system backed up and do a full restore when you need to. What I hate: -Finder. I just plain sucks compared to Windows explorer. -the dock is a huge waste of prime desktop space. Windows is much better. -Apple doesn't make a sensible tower computer. Your choice is either MacMini, or an insane $10,000 Xeon monster. A simple $4000 i9 mac tower ($2500 windows equivalent) would be awesome for almost any creative professional. -Frequent OS updates render a lot of programs useless, forcing you to upgrade. -it's impractical to upgrade anything. While I can add a new mvme drive to me Macbook, it won't work right. I'm stuck with a 250 GB hard SSD. What love about Windows: -you can build a machine exactly to match your needs. -Windows feels very fast. -Windows is faster with the software I use. -Updates almost never render old software useless. What I hate: -Auto updates tend to happen at the worst possible time and can take a really long time. A friend rebooted her laptop before an event where she needed Powepoint. It took 30 minutes before she could use the laptop. That sucks. A Mac won't do that to you. -I have not seen a laptop that is as nice as a MacBook.
Fun fact: Microsoft Office was created for macOS before Windows even came out!
Oh wow! Didn't know that! Thank you for sharing!
Another fun fact: Microsoft Office does not support the .docx format. Instead, it puts a vague interpretation of it into the files with this extension. This is actually the cause of incompatibility with LibreOffice.
@@grc5618 Macintosh Office was not a suite of productivity software. It was an early attempt at office-space collaboration. It shared drive space and printers with multiple Macs on a LAN.
In Jan '85 MS released Word for the Macintosh OS. In Sept. '85 MS released Excel for the Mac. Apr '87 PowerPoint for Mac.
Excel for Windows was released Nov '87. All three apps were released for Mac before even one was released for Windows. They released Word (Jan '90) and PowerPoint (May '90) for Windows later than Excel.
Microsoft's Office suite, bundling the three apps together for the first time, was released for Mac Jun '89 and for Windows Oct '90. There was an Office suite on the Mac over a year before it released for Windows.
What is left out of that history is the reason productivity software was released on the Mac first and how Windows even came to be (or came to be as quickly after the release of the Macintosh OS, anyway). Apple asked Microsoft to develop productivity software for the Mac and gave them a working model prior to '84 official launch of the Mac. Microsoft copied the OS (which of course Apple did, too, after Apple's engineers and Jobs toured PARC Labs which had many people from Douglas Engelbart's computer research team that developed the original point-and-click user interface in the mid '60s) and MS tried to avoid copyright infringement by changing the Mac OS code and UX *just* enough (which is one reason some things in Windows are just a little more cumbersome than in the Macos ... and, over the years, vice versa). And how did Microsoft develop Excel and Word? They copied existing software and "improved it." Lotus 123 was the basis for Excel; so much so that even today you can still use functions from 123 in Excel. I do give it MS with Excel tho. They took a mostly-usable product and turned it into a power house, especially after the introduction of VBA in '93. VBA was my first successful use of an object oriented language and it taught me a lot. Becoming an Excel expert helped me understand concepts about data types, pipes, etc. before I even tried to be developer.
Actually Excel and Word were Mac only at first. . I had the first version of Excel on a floppy.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Excel#Early_history
@@grc5618 Ok, it wasn't really office, but it was by Microsoft and it was sort of a "prototype" for office
This guy is genuinely my fav linux youtuber, he can actually see the value of other OSes and unlike some other linux youtubers he doesnt insult or belittle users of other OSes.
Because he isnt a linux youtuber. He goes back and forth between all 3. Other people are on Linux for a certain reason or philosophy
Typical Linux user mindset.
Sees a guy who uses Windows, Mac, and Linux.
Creates mods and scripts for all three and has various different projects on the go at once, and the Linux zealot thinks he's looking at a Linux UA-camr.
Hey, Linus Tech Tips did a review of the M1 Mac recently, guess he's a Mac UA-camr now, eh?
Yeah hardcore Linux users have that weird sense of superiority when they shouldn't. Linux has its downsides just like the other two mainstream OS's. (Im a new linux user myself and Ive noticed this just in my short time using it)
@@Phoenixwizard77 Your lack of understanding of the system doesnt indicate Linux has issues. It's likely just you.Linux doesnt hold your hand like you are accustomed to. It takes a long period of time and experience of the things not understood by a new user.
@@Phoenixwizard77 I think the first reply to your comment shows you're 100% correct.
"It's not Linux, it's you!"
If the best defence of Linux is 'it takes a long time and a ton of experience to get things to work worse than on Windows or MacOS", that's the definition of "worse"'!
Reasons for me using MacOS:
1. Working professionally as a Windows tech for 20 years takes a toll on your sanity.
2. I can focus on using really well developed apps, even if proprietary and non-free, and just let the OS stay out of the way, like an OS should do.
3. Appreciation of an OS developed by a company, with paid professional programmers hired to fulfill one vision, the commercial Apple vision of fully integrating apps, OS and devices into the "walled garden". It may be constrained, but the foundation is very solid.
4. The robustness and "it just works", no drivers, no registry, no .Net Framework, VC++ components, none of that bloat.
5. The ability to run MacOS, using the OpenCore rootkit, on a PC i built myself, with the components I choose. If nothing else as a proof of concept. It's a cool experience!
6. It’s beautiful.
7. It’s buttery smooth.
8. I’ve never experienced any kind of bug.
9. It works well with everyone else’s computer in my office.
10. With trackpad gestures you can rapidly flip through your tasks like a Las Vegas card dealer.
11. You can still do typical Linux stuff in the terminal.
I’m a Linux admin. Linux is a freaking amazing server platform, I just don’t care for Linux desktop. macOS imho is a good balance between a usable desktop UI and having a real *nix locally to be able to do *nix things like a shell, sed, grep etc.
BorisaRed Im not having any bugs or crashes on Catalina whatsoever. Maybe don’t generalize
@@thisismyalias Yeah.. my Macbook Pro has been rendered unbootable twice by updates and because "Macs just work" nobody seems to know how to recover from that.. had to reinstall OS both times.
I agree with the first 4 things 100%
Great video. I was a Senior Tech Advisor for 8.5 years till June 2019 until we lost our Apple contract. We never got to use the terminal or show the customers, it was all about showing them how to fix it themselves if it was a software issue. I am a LM19 user for several months now and was Win XP and 7 till both lost support. I realized the MAIN reason why people like Apple in general, is there synchronization between their devices and accounts, especially for parents to their children. That was it mainly, iPhone, iPod, iPad, WatchOS and Mac OS X and just MacOS, all had this sync that just technically worked. Crappy thing was when devices couldn't update any more, you technically had to upgrade, so they did a lot of buy back and you still had to pay a pretty penny. As for the scripts, they were fun to make, but it was a pain the @$$ to show a customer.
most young developers on conferences bearing Macs don't have children, I guess :)
I’ve had a Mac for 25 years and a Linux machine for the last decade or so. The more time you spend in those two operating systems the more you realize what close cousins they are. Windows is the odd man out and, not being much of a gamer, I don’t know why I would want to use it.
I use a MacBook and a Linux desktop. I do, however, play games as well as use some Win/Mac only software so at this point I'm forced to have a Windows dual boot.
I'm currently getting into Python programming and as soon as you do anything with a terminal it's obviously nice that both OSes are Unix-based.
I really like Gnome since it feels familiar to a Mac user while not ripping it off. But I have heard that KDE Plasma can easily be customised to be more similar to macOS so I might experiment with that
What desktop environment and distribution do you use on Linux?
i worked with linus mac and windows and on all honestly after windows 10, windows is number 1 followed by linux then mac, windows is overall the best there is nothing you can't do on a windows machine it is a mature feature rich OS
Windows has a terrible command line system and messed up file hierachy. It also has bugs and features from several years ago for backwards compatibility (I guess that's good, but its to the extent that modem windows is slow and buggy too). That being said, if you want to game, use windows. Windows is also great for creating bodged, hacked together programs. This is all from my limited experience with windows tho.
Tom Varga. Also I really don’t understand how ‘administrator rights’ work. Most of the time it lets you do stuff and then suddenly it prevents you from doing normal things, like even deleting a folder that somehow got restricted.
@@JJSogaard I think that could be to do with the A B C drives? I'm not too sure
macOS is a great operating system for both a user and a developer. All the apps (besides game) you'd want works, and because it's based off of BSD Unix, you find common functionality between Linux; and homebrew is magic. The major downside for me is its closed ecosystem. I want to be able to use whatever I want, not monopolize myself to one company.
I've seen X.org installed on a Mac running Mac OS X, so Linux applications would probably work, mostly.
I don't get it. There is no limit on what you can install on macos as long as the software has a version written for macos and dune cases Linux.
How about windows. Its has wsl also now working pretty fast and you will get best of both worlds. Mac sucks because apple develops it. Apple is gold digger.
@@sonulohani not fast at all. And only the latest beta of intelij idea seems to have supports for wsl2 thus it's an option for some frontend devs only
@@sonulohani wsl is a hack :p it essential windows virtualizing linux xD
I mean, believe it or not, some people don't care about customizable interfaces and tweaking with OS functionality. They want to install a program, have an easy shortcut to the program, and have features that help their workflow. And plenty of people find the features of MacOS helpful to their workflow.
In a way, Apple products are built for businesses more than they're built for end users. When there's little in the way of changing the interface, a business can keep their apps and workflow very consistent and streamlined. Both businesses I work at have either an ipod or iphone for store use.
It's not all about having the most options and the most freedom. Sometimes it's just about the work getting done.
As someone who uses it for music and photography -
1 It works seamlessly with any hardware I attach to it
2 It has a nice, clean and professional feeling interface
3 It works with my network NAS drive so much better than my Windows machine
4 in 9 years it's never crashed
5 No forced updates
6 No slow down over time with a bloated registry
7 It has all the software I want
8 And for someone who is now at the stage where they can't be bothered messing around with the system, it just works
macOS has the best audio system, much much better than Windows’ ASIO or Linux’s PulseAudio & JACK. Super low latency and requires no setup whatsoever! Great for musicians.
But for everyday task other than music production, Linux is pretty awesome!
Tried them both and its very very close. Mostly it just works in both equally goodcfor most modern interfaces for audio
How does the audio system compare to FreeBSD? I don't edit sound and with *BSD being a thing I don't see the need for macOS
For pro audio/multitrack audio Mac is awesome. It just works, and is consistently reliable. ASIO drivers for windows are sketchy at best and a nightmare at worst.
@@Traumatree Been muti tracking for years on Ubuntu Studio and Harrison Mixbus! and the problem is?
没想到在这里看到好和弦，我可是你的忠实观众。
I used to use OS X during the 10.4 to around 10.7 when the versions were still named after big cats. During the XP vs Vista/7 era it just worked. As a photographer having colour calibration built in was huge too. Also when Macs ran on PPC hardware it was also a hardware choice. The G5s were pretty cool back then. Anyway, I started playing around with the terminal, installing Mac Ports and doing more with my computer. Eventually when I got a PC when PPC support dropped I switched to FreeBSD, then Ubuntu, BSD again and back to linux. I like Elementary in alot of ways because it reminds me of what OS X used to be and what some of us thought it was going to be when Steve Jobs was talking about OS X and open source.
One of the things most people miss about apple is the amount of integration of services and apps across all their devices. I love Linux and its my main driver, but having the integration between Mac, iPad, iPhone is fantastic
Yep
As long as you stay in their ecosystem
it's convenient, but i just couldn't be using products all controlled by 1 company, id very rather use linux, and do everything by myself
I used MacOS as my daily driver from 2002-2021, and I finally switched to Linux a few months ago. There was a lot to love and a lot to hate about MacOS that I could go into. But instead, I'm going to mention the reason why a friend of mine uses MacOS, and can't really use anything else. She is visually impaired, and needs to use screen magnification (and "invert colors") in order to be able to read what's on the screen. She says that accessibility on MacOS is far better than accessibility on Windows or Linux. Although all the operating systems have accessibility features, the MacOS implementation is far more usable for someone who has to use it every day to get work done. She says "Microsoft hates their disabled users." Screen magnification on Linux is extremely clunky, and the Mac implementation is light years ahead of it. (This will vary depending on the desktop environment, but I'm not aware of any desktop environment that has screen magnification that's as usable as MacOS.)
I wrote a Literature Survey on this topic for my IT grad program. Visually impaired users who use Windowed tend to use third party tools over the built-in features. More and more visually impaired users are switching to Macs. When it comes to Linux, you have to look at speciality distros. Vinux is a dedicated distro with visual accessibility as a priority. It's based on Ubuntu, so it'll have some of the best app compatibility.
Have you got a linux laptop or a desktop? I am trying to get a linux laptop but can't find one? Would Mac work for same command lines as linux please?
Apple's ecosystem is impressive, I'll give them that. My issue is how locked down their hardware and software is. I've used multiple versions of Windows, different Linux distros (Arch on my desktop and Fedora on my laptop), and MAC OSX Snow Leopard years ago. When I used a Mac, it was fine, but I wasn't terribly impressed. There were certain programs I liked that weren't available on Mac (like foobar2000) that I couldn't find a good replacement for. Once I switched from iPhone to Android, that pushed me away from Apple more. Mac isn't very good for people who like to tinker with their operating system.
EDIT:
I'd recommend going with Pop OS! or Linux Mint to people who may be attracted to the interface of MAC OS and its ease of use. The Gnome desktop environment on Pop OS! is very similar to the desktop on MAC OS. Linux Mint is more similar to Windows and it's also easy to use and usually doesn't require additional configuration to make it functional (you can still do it if you want to add functionality or customize).
I tinker with my Mac plenty, just as I tinker with my GNU/Linux systems and servers. You just have to read documentation and keep an eye out for good software like you would with any system.
My problem with Mac OS X is that you're not allowed to legally run it on any PC. My problem with *Apple* is everything they sell is overpriced massively. You could probably build your own iPhone from the exact same parts yourself for half the cost.
What? If you want similar experience to mac you would go with Solus (the budgie desktop) or with Deepin (since Mac OS Big Sur is copying Deepin beta 20)
lmao I used foobar2000 when I was in the navy was my main music player.
I think you missed the point of macOS. It is for those of us who like doing work not managing computers to keep them running. Certainly it has a lot of things pre-configured or locked down, but the key point is that it gets the job done for 99.99% of what I do. And for that, I don’t have to spend a lot of time fixing things that break, applying patches, …..
If only I could develop ios apps from non mac natively, there would be no need for mac in my life...sigh...
100%.
You hate using a good system? Sad!
I think there are just 3 groups of people that use macOS.
1-Apple lovers
2- macOS or iOS developers
3- music productors.
I'm beginning to wonder why people still use Windows?
For me, I don't like linux on my laptop. I can't tweak the driver. So many things not right.
AC3 Filter. All of my downloaded movies would output to Dolby Digital or DTS in Windows. DTS works, but most other codecs don't.
I just gave up Linux mint yesterday now feeling home again on Windows.
I think @Motoryzen nailed it. Gaming mainly. Adobe users I think are better off on Mac.
The boss.
I have a Mac M1 for web development and I think it's the best machine for this task. Apart from being able to use tools that designers use, we have iOS emulators, Safari, Docker, Android Studio, Davinci Resolve also works amazingly on ARM based Macs. And yes we have a Unix environment with 2 package managers (brew and macports) with tons of open source software. I wouldn't be able to do all we can do on the mac with Linux or Windows. And the M1 ARM architecture is ultra fast and consumes much less battery. Totally agree on gaming and the Apple Store.
OSX Snow Leopard was the bomb. It combined Apple's ease of use/works out of the box approach with many power user features. Since then they only added their subscription stuff, fenced off the ecosystem, and cut out all power user things. Catalina broke the last straw for me, am on Ubuntu now and it's brought back power user fun.
I agree. Snow Leopard was Apple's Abbey Road much like Windows 2000 with Microsoft. They've been spinning their tires ever since.
I agree, as well. I used MacOS from 2002-2021, and I loved it for a while, but I don't like the direction Apple is heading in, so I switched to Ubuntu a few months ago.
I used Snow Leopard from 2009 when I got my first mac, to around 2018 when I had to update for software compatibility reasons. Yeah, it was good. Now I use Debian, and I set up KDE to look a little like OSX, with the bar on the top.
i use all 3 OS's daily, I love the setting up of a new MacOS to a new MacOS its so simple, (iphone to iphone even more so) downsides on MacOS i just can never remember the keyboard shortcut to start a filmshow of pics I have to google it each time!, Windows is my full time job and pays my bills thank god they keep coming up with untested updates like 2004, and for 10+ years Linux Mint has helps me as my main workshop machine in my business and is super reliable, great content Chris, subd
"can't remember the shortcuts". Lol, such a problem. If you are using this everyday and don't remember go see a doctor, Alzheimer is a thing this days.
I like the honest comparisons here. Subbed.
I worked at both apple and google. The underlying argument about MacOS/iOS vs Windows/Android/Linux or whatever is the starting point the company has when they are designing everything. Windows, Linux, and android assume you know what you're doing. Apple assumes you might not know what you're doing. At the end of the day, it really is about people's personalities. If you want to control or want to tinker, you don't like Apple stuff. If you just want to flip a switch and do a thing, then you're going to like Apple stuff. So, I really don't understand why people argue about this stuff. Use what makes you happy, productive, and sane.
I use Debian on my desktop and a Mac laptop. I like both. MacOS is a good UNIX-like alternative to GNU/Linux all of it's issues/imperfections. That is not to say MacOS isn't flawed.
This is the most bizarre macOS review I've ever seen, that's coming from somebody who's used all three OSes for a really long time. You didn't show off hardly any of macOS's unique features, and you focused on things that 99.9999% of Mac users would never even know or care about. This is an interesting perspective from a hardcore Linux user, but wow.
fakecubed This is the video I was searching for. So much more useful than those floritures mac users usually advertise
That’s because this guy is a Linux fanatic. They need to push this shit for people and they are trying to do that for more than 20 years or so. They are not being very well succeed tough because people doesn’t like the headache of deal with Linux desktop and prompt odd commands
@@josecarlosxyz It shows you don't know much about Linux, pretty much all Linux package managers are superior to brew on MacOs.
Tim LOL, Mac users don’t need to know or care about package managers.
Joseph Barros I agree this is a terrible approach to winning over Mac users (or probably Windows users) to Linux. I use Linux now for most of my main computer tasks and I’ve converted a bunch of my Mac friends. The absolute last thing I’d ever talk about to get them interested in Linux is package managers or even keyboard shortcuts. I tell them Linux has become great for gaming and there’s a ton of free software and they can use whatever hardware they like instead of being stuck with whatever Apple wants them to use. I tell them set-up is a breeze and managing the OS isn’t the stuff of nightmares anymore, with an easy distro. I ask them what software they’re currently using and then let them know it works on Linux or there’s a completely free alternative that these days has all the same features and (mostly) the same level of polish as they’re used to. These people I talk to are receptive, they dual-boot for a while, and they start learning more advanced stuff on their own if they really want to. They end up convincing themselves to switch on their own.
See, your issue was using Bedrock instead of Java edition kappa
Java FTW
Java FTW! My son has a switch and I use a custom DNS and bedrock server to get all of us in the same server. So that is why I was messing around with bedrock.
@@ChrisTitusTech makes sense. I have a friend with only the Switch version so I should look into getting Bedrock working on Linux...
@@ChrisTitusTech Makes sense
@@user-tm3fz7qx3s bedrock version work very very well on linux, seach "mcpelauncher linux" on Google
because it is awesome - keyboard shortcuts rock - trackpad gestures cannot be lived without
this is why every linux box I run looks and works like a mAC!!!
I've used the Mac and Windows over the years. The best thing about the Mac over Windows is it doesn't slow down over time. The worst thing about the Mac is being locked in with programs and music and being forced to upgrade your hardware to stay current. But there's nothing special about the Mac OS that makes me wish I was using it. I love Linux, and the Gnome DE is pretty damn awesome. I will never go back to using windows or mac .... and there actually is something special about Linux that makes me want to keep using it.
Windows 10 runs fine since it came out. The whole osx is optimized is bs.
Windows 10 on Mac hardware runs better than osx.
@@ashishpatel350 Just no dude. Windows 10 does not run better than OSX. Windows 10 cant run better than anything. MacOS is the best compromise after Linux.
@@cc4405 I've found debloated Windows to be more stable than Mac. I'm not sure what you're talking about.
I'm a developer and I use Macs primarily. These days you can't write anything that's without access to open source code, and macOS, with tools like homebrew and full access to GNU, is a natural. Most people seem to forget that macOS is a legit derivation of Unix - as Linux, BSD, Solaris, etc. - not a gimped or mini but a fully POSIX compliant Unix. You can try to create a dev environment on Windows, but the process is a royal pain, and even then things will break because a whole chunk of the toolset is missing depending on what you're developing. WSL works fairly well these days, only if all the pesky Windows stuff didn't get in the way. But if they remove that, it'll just end up as another Linux distro.
Most people mocking Macs/macOS are just kids who's never used one, and don't know a lick of Unix, meaning they don't grasp the full spectrum of computing. Often they've heard of Linux, and may even have a second boot of some distro du jour, but usually only to not look like a complete sap. That or it's just insurance to look cool/cooler than their gaming buddies. Yet they accuse Mac users of being too hip. Wish they would tell my fellow developers that, as most of them are working on bigdata crunching and AI on expensive, hipster, toy computers. Those idiots!
I sometimes game too, and it's equally a royal pain to get any decent titles to run on the Mac, because again, a good chunk of the toolset are missing, namely graphics API, though Metal shows promise, but only if enough game devs start using it.
I think the position of the super key in mac is the best thing about it. So comfortable to use, right there under your thumb. Ctrl is something the rest of the world is used to, but if you regularly use both, it'd be really hard to honestly say that the pinky contortion is more comfortable. Not worth it to use a mac though, and neither is the excellent trackpad, but those two things stick out for me as commendable for sure, or even superlative.
I used a Mac from the mid 80s up until the late 90s... at the same time I was running Slackware (starting in 93) on my primary and Solaris on my Ultra 10. Over the years Linux has become quite stable and very usable even for a beginner. That being said I picked up an M1 Mac last year and it's everything I always wanted in an OS. The stability is phenomenal, I have the ease of use of the App Store when I need it (I know you didn't like it), standard apps for Office work (if needed) but also the ability to use all almost all my favorite UNIX / Linux programs and utilities as well as scripting. The only thing I can't do to my hearts desire is game... If they could get that worked out I personally wouldn't run anything else. (I currently have Kali and Caldera installed via WSL2 on my gaming PC)
The "natural" scrolling option is a must for Trackpad usage, but I don't like it for a standard mouse-wheel. I really wish there was a way to switch it easier or set it for individual devices.
Yes! using trackpad and a scroll-wheel mouse or switching between a magic mouse and traditional mouse is so annoying since you can't set for individual devices
FYI, on Linux there also are extra attributes. It just isn't shown with the LS command. You might want to look into it for a future video.
LOL. Saved a young sysadmin from that once. He had no idea. Old grey beard sysadmin to the rescue. Ha.
Yea, sometimes you can confuse the more inecperienced Linux user by putting the immutable attribute on a file by
chattr +i /some/path/file
and they get really upset why they can't delete it even as root.
But it's a nice feature if you occasionally want to prevent files from being deleted or overwritten by some process that runs with elevated privileges that you cannot or don't want to dissect and reprogram.
@@othernicksweretaken Never heard of this before!
Having used Mac OS for 15+ years, I found switching to Linux, much much easier, than switching to Windows. A lot of the Unix conventions are very similar to Linux.
Everyone says you can't game on a Mac but I don't get it...why not? I mean, I'm not a massive gamer but I have plenty of games on here...The Sims 4, ARK, Subnautica, The Long Dark...are there big games that are missing on Mac? Or is it that the integrated graphics cards are not top of the range?
Great video as always !! I have several suggestions/comments:
1. Use spotlight more (the cmd+space key combination) to launch apps. GNOME has very similar system, and to be honest, a bit better than spotlight, but spotlight is really good for launching apps. Second best place to launch apps are your Dock, any frequently used app MUST be placed on Dock (at least I do).
2. Keyboard: I suggest you switch your alt and windows keys around, macs has command key next to the spacebar key. It removes the ctrl finger syndrome.
3. Short cuts: get comfortable with these key combinations ( support.apple.com/en-us/HT201236 ):
- cmd+Tab (app switching, with ability to close an app WHILE in tab switcher mode - hold cmd, press tab to open the app switcher BUT keep holding cmd, highlight the app you want to close, tap the Q key to close),
- cmd+S (to save changes to a document), cmd+shift+S to save as dialog/sheet.
- cmd+F to find, then cmd+G to do find next, and cmd+shift+G to find previous, very comfortable to press, and quite logical IMHO compared to ctrl+F then F3.
- cmd+W (to close current window),
- cmd+Q (to quit apps), this is Far better than alt+F4 IMHO, in Windows, with apps running in taskbar, alt+F4 does not always quit a running app, very inconsistent.
- cmd+, (cmd + comma, to open the app's preferences). Windows has nothing in this manner, I don't know much about Linux's Desktop Environment.
These made me want to go back to macOS. macOS's super consistent key combination for doing mundane tasks are consistent across all apps. Want to close a tab in a web browser, cmd+W. Want to close an app, cmd+Q. Want to open preference/settings in an app, cmd+, . It's very consistent. In windows, some apps use ctrl+f4, some use other key combination. To close an app, usually you press alt+f4 UNLESS the app is running in the taskbar area, if so, you need to right click the app in the taskbar, then click exit. I will get this in the next point. It's weird in Windows/Linux land. I haven't been using Linux desktop since I moved to macOS. nowadays I use Windows because Apple made really horrible machines with horrible price/performance ratio.
4. Window management and menu bar, I prefer macOS's way of arranging apps/windows, Windows's/Linux's MDI interface changed when macOS risen in popularity. Back then, in Windows, there's one huge parent window that hosts smaller "document" windows. This is MDI style. This becomes a problem when you have 2 or more displays, and if ACCIDENTALLY closed the parent window, all of your child/document windows are also gone. Once I started using macOS as my main OS some 8 years ago, I like how it manage my applications. I remember the days where I have Steinberg NUENDO open, and it uses the whole screen when I maximize it, and it has many child windows in it, and I need to span it across two of my monitors with the help of Nvidia NVIEW, it was not pretty. Compared to macOS's document window system, it's a lot better, I can maximize any apps on any monitor, and I don't give a damn about it.
Now, about that top, permanently showing menu bar: if I'm active at Google Chrome, the top menu bar will show me Google Chrome's menus, the document windows of Chrome does not need to have a menu bar at all. If I click one of Logic Pro's document window, the menu bar will switch to Logic Pro's menu bar, if I click Photoshop's window, the menu bar will switch to Photoshop's menu, so on and so forth. This made menu bar consistent across all apps, and this is VERY IMPORTANT.
If I want to close everything but I want to leave Chrome running so when I need to open it for a quick browse, I don't need to wait for it to start up - and macOS's way to manage application/memory is smarter than Windows, for sure.This style, in time, is adopted by Windows, but their way of applying this is weird, Windows apps will use tiny icons running in taskbar area to manage "running in the background apps", which is REALLY weird once I grasped the idea. Just keep a "dock area" that shows all running apps, each app can have many "document" windows, closing "document" windows does not close the app, keep the app running so I won't need to wait for it to start up every time I need it, and have one menu bar at the top of the screen to reduce clutter of varying applications running. This way I don't need to have a "taskbar icon area" and have tiny apps running all over it, I can see clearly my menu bar of ANY ACTIVE application, no need to make a "modern" app that does not have a menu bar, we need menu bars, no need to innovate something that is clearly does not need innovation, for example, Firefox will show a normal menu bar if you tap the alt key.
There are many more that made macOS easier for me to use compared to Windows/Linux, but for now, these are the ones that I think are related to your video topic.
Fun fact: "BSD General Commands Manual" is in the header of every man page in macOS (e.g. "man locate", "man ls", etc.); EXCEPT for commands added by Apple (e.g. "man nvram"), of which there are not many.
macOS is just Apple's distro of BSD.
macOS is Apple's most profitable product, by margin. Imagine the investment required to MODIFY a distro of BSD, which must be compatible with only a few dozen hardware configurations (i.e. the iMacs, Macs and MacBooks released over the past 13 years, minus those models which are "no longer supported"). Next, imagine selling macOS with Apple's entry-level configuration (Mac mini): $800 - $300 (parts and assembly) = $500. Finally, imagine selling macOS with Apple's top configuration (Mac Pro): $53,000 - $32,000 (parts and assembly) = $21,000... for a SINGLE software license.
macOS upgrades are "free"? Sure. Until Apple stops supporting the model a user is using. The macOS upgrade after that... costs between $500 and $21,000... USD. Given Apple's design-flaws and defect-rate, many users must pay Apple... again... long before Apple selects their model for extinction. AppleCare+ and out-of-pocket repair are not free. Curiously, out-of-pocket repair is often priced such that replacement seems the wiser option. Replacement is Apple's preferred "repair" option. And, good luck getting Apple to honor their 1-year warranty. Apple alleges (almost) every defect is warranty-voiding "user-inflicted damage" (i.e. liquid-intrusion sensors which react to high humidity or "you must have dropped it... or used it wrong" ...or used it in Starbucks?). Standing behind their products is something Apple does RELUCTANTLY. Repair programs for ongoing, 3-year-old defects are not the same as a RECALL.
Has Apple ever issued a recall for any of their defective models? smh
Wac. It just breaks.
CrApple. Stink different.
(Sent from my 2019 Lenovo laptop... running MX Linux. Because both my 2008 Mac mini and my 2015 MacBook Air broke within 1 year of 1st-use. Fool me twice... shame on me.)
Great video, but your point about it being a hackintosh you can't really fault Apple for that, weather or not as Linux users we agree with Apple keeping MacOS hardware specific doesn't matter. Mac users won't ever have to mess with kexts, or bootloaders on Apple hardware.
@5:47 agreed. AppStore is going to shift tremendously in quality once iOS apps show up in Big Sur. without touchscreen, it will be interesting to see how practical these apps will be to use.
Have they showed up in Big Sur yet? I'm running Monterey and they haven't shown up in my App Store yet. :(
hi, i'm from the future - quality hasn't changed or decreased at all
My main grudge with windows back in the 2000's was how it hogged screen real estate. MacOS had this single place for everything without getting in the way. Currently running an ancient imac from 2011 (which is still working great :D) and a PC with windows/Kubuntu in dual boot. about to dive in to a KVM setup after a bit of research.
I started on Win XP back in 2005. Was doing some web design and bit of coding. Then music, since 2007.
Quickly I was interested by Linux, I tried various distros like Ubuntu, Suse, Mandriva etc. But something was always missing. The big point was music creation tools.
So I heard of Mac OS and how it was great and blablabla. Was skeptical. I didn't have enough money at that time to buy a Mac. But I saw it was possible to install Mac OS on an Intel PC Hardware. My Hackintosh journey begun 😄
I loved the overall feel and graphical cleanness and experience of the OS (for that time it was honestly the best and the most fluid), with the terminal and the Unix. Then I bought a white MacBook (2008 model I think). Then I got the aluminum unibody one. I loved I!. I had my Unix like tools and my design and music creation apps.
Then in 2014 I started my photography and videography journey. After a quick experience on Adobe Premiere I quickly started to use Final Cut Pro X. The question to go back to Windows or Linux as a daily driver was not even in the air 😄 I got my MacBook Air as a secondary computer and a Hackintosh Intel PC as my main machine.
With the arrival of Apple Silicon, I sold the Hackintosh PC and gone full M1 Pro 16" Macbook. It's silent, sleek, the battery works for hours, the HDR monitor is phenomenal for video and design work! And bla-bla-bla, everything you probably already know about these devices. In short, to unlock the full potential of Mac OS you really need to use an Apple device. Cause like you mentioned in the video, the "natural scrolling", with a traditional PC mouse is just a joke.
At the beginning of the last year (2022) I started another journey! Yes I will never stop I think 😂
I started my 3D animation/design journey. I tried to use my Macbook with Cinema 4D. It was a nice experience, GUI wise, but for now the rendering (the process which consists of exporting a photorealistic image) speed is really far away from what NVIDIA can do with their Ray Tracing cores.
So I made a pretty well spect PC workstation with a 16 core Ryzen CPU, 64GB of RAM and an RTX 3090.
I used Windows 11 for one year now. As a Mac user, I actually kinda loved the new taskbar with the icons in the middle, cause it really reminds me of Mac OS 😄
I tried some 3D creation apps, like Cinema 4D, Houdini and Blender. And then I saw that Houdini and (obviously) Blender was available on Linux. As I was never really a Windows guy, I decided to try the new Linux world that I leaved for about a decade now (as a desktop daily driver). I Installed Fedora 38, and now I successfully use Blender and Houdini as a 3D artist. I like this new journey on my PC and think of ditching Windows completely. But I thinks I still need to have it, mainly because of SolidWorks and Cinema 4D, the 2 programs I can't have on Linux, even if I found some alternatives.
Linux has made a long way, to the point where many professional apps are now available, like Davinci Resolve, Blender, SideFX Houdini, Autodesk Maya, Bitwig Studio and so on. You even have Adobe Substance Painter/Designer. The only thing that is missing is Photoshop and Illustrator for me. Or Affinity suite.
But definitely for a laptop use, until now, I can't find a more comfortable machine than a Macbook.
What I realize now after all these years is that:
- With Linux, you get the freedom, but only if you're willing to put in some work and time.
- With Apple and Mac OS, you get the convenience, fluid user experience and optimized performance and all of that out of the box! It's really important for a mobile device. Especially the software + hardware optimization part.
That reversed mouse setting was a change to match their iOS devices. We old Mac users hates it..
For me, the scrolling especially when using a trackpad just makes sense. If you had a long piece of paper on the table, to see the stuff lower down you would place your finger on the paper and push it up, which is why I think Apple calls it Natural. With an external mouse it may seem counterintuitive though so on a Mac desktop I would probably use the Windows / Linux way, on a MacBook with trackpad I would use the Apple Natural way.
@@davidhughes9320 I think that is the difference. I see the mouse cursor going up the page. I see the trackpad as controlling the mouse, not the page.
Why do people use MacOS ? As an audio guy (live sound and pro musician), I have a very simple answer: Core Audio is MASSIVELY superior to ASIO. Like, by a mile. Which makes DAWs more stable, hence maximizing uptime.
In the pro audio world, it's mostly Macs, a few Windows boxes here and there, and Linux is not a thing.
Since Davinci resolve runs on linux too, a video on how different it runs on the respective operating systems would something nice.
The only main thing I noticed is on the free version, encoding options are basically stripped compared to macOS and Windows. You have to pay for Studio if you want h264, which to me is ridiculous. I'd much rather make a macOS VFIO/KVM just to run Davinci on for that reason.
@@tyisafk you dont have to pay for H264 in mac or windows, not tested linux.
@@tyisafk If you're gong to do professional video on a Mac, especially an M1 Mac, you really want to use Final Cut Pro.
My main reason for using it is age. When I was young I loved wasting time figuring things out and customising things. However the older I got I realised that most of this was a waste of time with no real added value. I just want a computer which works and allows me to get the things done I need to get done. I was an ardent Windows user for many years and saw the reduced number of software packages for Mac as a serious disadvantage. But then my Mother needed a new computer and a friend advised Mac. My Mother was not computer savvy having grown up before personal computers were a thing. So looking at Mac OS and how easy it was to do things (eg connecting to wifi for example all you have to do was click on the wifi icon at the top and you see immediately the available wifi routers and can connect - on Windows at the time you had to dig through multiple things to find this and if you were not doing it regularly it was easy to forget how to do it) convinced me. Her computer was more or less exactly the same in terms of CPU etc as my work laptop. But when she switched it on it came on almost immediately. My Windows laptop at this point took about a minute to boot up. This convinced me to look further and finally buy my own Mac. I loved it and wished I had switched years before. It is not perfect and to be honest I‘m worried ever since Steve Jobs passed that Mac OS has become more and more complex and less and less stable but it is still leap years ahead of my Windows workstation in terms of simplicity and reliability. I just wish more professional software was made for the Mac so I could get rid of Windows altogether. I have a friend in IT who says he hates Macs because his clients with Macs rarely need support but he really loves Windows as he can make a lot of money from Windows users. He is the one who recommended I get a Mac for my mother and uses one himself.
The solution I have to gaming and 64 bit only on Catalina is I use Parallels Desktop. Which is a VM but it uses some local resources so gaming and 32 bit apps can run well in either Linux or Windows. I use macOS for Logic and Final Cut.
I need to check out Parallels again, it has been so long since I used it, but I remember it convergence mode was the best. You could run it without having a full desktop. Then again, that was the Win 7 days.
I'm a Windows user who uses macOS for work and god. It's AMAZING. Updates aren't shoved down your throat, it's clean and nice, and it just WORKS. I have to admit apple knows what they are doing and Microsoft has been taking note with 11.
Have you tried using Davinci Resolve on Linux and how does it compare? Snazzy Labs (mostly Apple focused channel) did a video on why their editor moved from Mac to Pop OS for video editing with Resolve.
So I wonder which one is better.
I've used Resolve on both Linux and Mac. The free version doesn't support H.264 import on Linux due to codec shenanigans, whereas it's fully supported on Mac and Windows (even in the free version).
@@WolfgangsChannel So there is a reason to use Resolve on Mac OS, interesting! I expected Linux experience to be better.
Also hi, cool to see you here.
That is amazing. For Linux you need nVidia as the AMD card support for DaVinci isn't there yet. However, I'm rocking a Vega64 and macOS with DaVinci works great. So it depends on your hardware.
I tried almost all relevant video editing apps on linux, and even I need to convert everything from mp4 to mov and from mp3 to wav in order to use davinici resolve - my opinion is that you cannot compare anything with resolve . Kdenlive and shotcut are like a kids toy vs davinci resolve....
@@SchoneMarisha Admittedly Kdenlive is a hell of a lot closer than shotcut or OpenShot, but yeah no argument here.
Apple eco system helps me a lot to concentrate on work and not compatibility issues, update issues and so on. Tried windows and it was a horrible experience.
When I started using macOS, I realized that I don't need Linux anymore.
Yeah, Homebrew and iTerm 2 and you are on a real Unix BSD.
@@MichaelSharpTechniSmart Exactly. When I was on Linux, I thought that Terminator is the best, but now I see that iTerm2 has the same functionality + it is more stable.
wow 2 years since you started using Linux? Damn I didn't realize I followed you for that time already! Keep up the good work! I started usind Pop_OS last month and dualboot Windows just for gaming.
How quicky time passes! Thanks for all the support Alex!
Thank you, Chris. I used Apple in the late 80s up until Win 95. Apple was the alternative to Big Metal. The Ridley Scott ad of the woman smashing Big Brother? That was my Mac. When NeXT came out it was just insanely expensive. These days I have no idea why Mac is so appealing.
I think (as a mac, windows and linux user (just setup linux on an XPS 6 months ago, just used it in a VM and one of my desktops before that)), mac is appealing because most of the time it just works (When it does not it can be a colossal shitshow tho). I will happily pay their bloated prices and not as good hardware for the amount of time I have saved using it (Time I can now spend responding to comments on YT). Also the quality of apps is better IMO. If it happens to fit your workflow it is a good piece of software, sadly it just runs on subpar hardware.
Emad Ahmed never having to fix anything, no driver issues etc. have not had any issues with drivers not working like I would on Linux machines of past and don’t have to spend time actually making development tolerable in windows.also most apps I use just seem to be better polished like the Omni productivity suite thing, taskpaper, karabiner, Alfred, bear notes, iterm etc. esp for paid apps. Things have changed a little over the past 2-3 years with electron etc making it hyper easy to develop for all platforms.
Emad Ahmed A Mac user is much more likely to pay you for an app so even if market share is low, you may end up making more money. Some people limit themselves to making Mac/iOS apps for that reason as far as I can tell and are more inclined to make em better (just my hypothesis).
the Mac, OS X is/was the next incarnation of NeXT. That was the point of using the X instead of saying Mac OS 10.
@Emad Ahmed Ok mate, I am going to be as polite as possible but I just lost my NAS to a crashed volume so I dont have much patience right now (I know this may not be the most courteous thing for me to respond but you you weren't courteous either). What I gave in the initial comment was a my subjective personal opinion about the hardware and my experience. Your comment was a question asking me to go into detail about it, and I explained my subjective stance based on my experience in detail. I really dont care how you judge my subjective opinion. I have 10+ computers (collected over the last decade), they use some have linux, some have windows, some are macs and I even have a chromebook, i really dont care. I just limit my primary dev machine to mac for now to save on time. I have been very unlucky with every windows laptop I have bought.
I have failed to find good alternatives for apps that I use and that is down to my workflow. I find apple hardware to be subpar because the keyboard sucks, because it is almost impossible to repair by design and because I find the overall package ugly all subjective stances.
I dont need someone to change my opinion and I am not trying to change someone else's. OP said "These days I have no idea why Mac is so appealing" and I merely tried to explain what I found appealing about macs.
I hate every OS to a certain degree because if you just look at them as tools and ignore the philosophy behind them all of them have trade-offs, mac simply had the best combination of positives and negatives to match my use-case.
Thanks for reading my wall of text. I would suggest in the future that you dont explain things to strangers on the internet as if schooling a kid about his/her remarks and instead add to the conversation and that way people might be inclined to talk in a better manner. OR dont, it is your call.
That's kind of my take on the Mac as well. After 20 years with various Linux distributions, I inherited an iMac from an estate. Quite different from your take, though, my Linux box which has double the ram and double the capacity, sits idly next to me on the desk, and I find myself using the Mac all the time. Feeling a bit guilty. Back in the infancy of Linux, I learned commands and figuring out how things work. As Linux matured, I found myself using it for videos, email, etc., and point and click stuff.
So the Mac for me does what I used the Linux box for. One thing I notice is that the hardware is beautifully made and nice to use, and as far as video and audio go, it just works.
Wouldn't feel guilty about it at all. It's a nice system that has the best of both worlds. A beautiful interface and a UNIX shell.
I switched from MacOS to Linux a few months ago. I never looked back.
which distribution are you using? I'm VERY curious.
Ah THAT's why! Always good to get reasoned arguments from Linux Users.
Nice video! You don’t get that kinda review from many people that don’t use macOS.
I switch to macOS after a debate with my sister with her iPhone. I been using some version of macOS since late last year. I can say I don’t regret switching to macOS. There are four main reasons why I choose macOS as my main operating system. First is Microsoft Office, I need outlook for my job & don’t really like the web version. Second the simplicity & privacy of macOS, most of the time it just works, not spending hours on configuration settings in Linux when it is updated. Third comes down to integration with the ecosystem. (Need a real Macintosh) Handoff, iMessage, AirDrop are just a few features I come to like in the Apple ecosystem. Let’s not forget iCloud is integrated into all their operating systems. Finally the forth reason is because of development I can do most of my development on my Mac. I only have to load windows or Linux when debugging an Application for that OS.
Oh one last thing, the Command key is actually the ALT on a Mac style keyboard. While the option key is the Windows key. With the Command key being the ALT on a Mac it becomes more convenient with using hot keys. The key is closer to the other keys, so it doesn’t seem like you are trying to reach the size of a football field. But it does take a few weeks of use to get used to the new keyboard.
Emad Ahmed Yes, I couldn’t find a Linux version I like very well. I used one version of Linux to another for 2 years prior to switching to macOS. I really don’t know why you would say I doesn’t matter coming from Windows. macOS is completely different operating systems and act very different from one another. I still use different operating systems for my job, but prefer macOS as my primary operating system.
Emad Ahmed macOS is not Linux! Yes it run a Unix-Core, but it can become complicated to install Linux programs in macOS. GTK or KDE application look out of place in macOS. If you have a 32-bit application I wouldn’t even look at macOS, they no longer support 32-bit libraries. Take all that in mind too when debating to use macOS. If you are not invested in the ecosystem you won’t have the experience that I have on a daily basis. Their are other great Linux os like popos, arch, and my favorite desktop Linux SolusOS. You just have to find what you personally like. Tome is also a factor to me that is why I chose macOS. I want to get stuff done in my day, not fight with my computer too get things working.
Danny Kirkham Yes, you are correct! The reason why I would mention that is because of Legacy Application. Some people can’t upgrade because those applications don’t work. Custom development cost thousands of dollars, so people don’t wish to update the code base. I and other developers I know work on old legacy application all the time. To keep things simple I will explain as easy as possible.
64-bit = x64 processor type. The processor architect type, it is how the processor communicates with software and the rest of the hardware on you computer. With x86 which is the 32-bit processor type you are limited to how much ram each application can use and other limitations. While are far as I know there is no limitations to the 64-bit processor type. The limitations is that most software company’s have the code base and update it when it needs to be updated. Luckily for Apple they gave every advance notice so most the applications could just be recompiled to the x64 architect.
There is more details involved but I not going to get into the biggest differences between these technology. The 32-bit code is still able to run on a 64-bit processor.
Operating system like Windows and many Linux version still support some type of 32-bit binary in the operating system. While most of them only support these binary for game development. Binary are the API or how a programs talk with the operating system, all operating system have them. They just work differently between operating system.
I hope this help explain this, there is a lot more to this technology.
An Apple a day keeps the doctor away! Dr. Linux
An apple a day makes seven apples a week.
Mint, Pop, Manjaro is the medicine.
And sometimes Parrot
@@buttholethebarbarian8248 But Dr. Linux uses Gentoo and Arch and Artix and to Dr. Linux distributions don't matter.
An apple a day makes you sick in every fucken way :)
(っ˘ڡ˘ς) 「An 🍎 a day is delicious」【yummy】
I used a mac as my main computer for years, and found the shortcuts and other productivity items to be amazing. The cost, and generally sub-par hardware + weird security items makes me lean more to linux.
What do you mean the cost and subpar hardware? Even Linus Tech Tips (not an Apple fan) admits that for the specifications and build quality, Apple does not rip people off on their computers. They are competitively priced.
I've found Mac hardware to be great. I dare you to find any laptop with a trackpad as good as a MacBook Pro. However, I agree about the "weird security" that has come to the Mac in the past decade; that's one of my reasons for switching to Linux this year.
From a long time MAC user. It's great, but far too expensive. My last macbook cost 1200 and now it's redundant to any updates. My Current ThinkPad cost me 55. Runs great with Linux.
one thing i like about MacOS was their trackpad functionality, the switch between workspaces were seamless and scrolling a web page, word document, excel was easy. I too, use the brew commands a lot . first thing i installed was neofetch (first command i learn on Linux a few years ago) haha. I was using a macbook pro 2012 edition and i decided to test out linux on this macbook and the first thing i noticed was the fan was suddenly spinning loudly. I was initially surprised because during my usage on MacOS on that macbook, the fan hardly makes a sound. Of course, later on, i was reminded that MacOS does throttle their system to contain the fan's potential usage. I also hated their appstore, it felt ugly but nothing as bad as Microsoft store. I remembered when Catalina came out, i was like cool, i'll just update, nothing can be as bad as a windows 10 update....post update, some apps don't work anymore, it felt clunky to an extend (ironically, not as bad as Windows 10).
I honestly don't hate windows..ok i don't like 10 a lot. I love windows 7, it was working, i didn't care about any OS, and i maximize my time with music and video production and i came back to Windows 7 from 10 a few years ago because of a weird Wifi issue, where if it downloaded a big enough file, the driver will fail but on W7, i had no issues so instead of trying to figure out the reasons, i just switched. However, W7 was close to end of life so i went W10, the Wifi issue still existed so i would use my phone as an internet connection (plugged in via USB) but then the shit updates started pouring in. i think this was in 2018 when it started to make me hate it more and then i tried Linux . Out of the box, my wifi, was working. I love linux and i support its growth, but i do not like some of their err, passionate fanboys..i don't like fanboys, i like super fans, but not some religious police level of blind support.
Hence why i like Chris Titus, he doesn't seem to be a typical linux "arch user" and i do admit, the community of linux is way less toxic than it was (for me) in the early 2000s. Plus the growth of linux is good..it just needs some marketing exposure imo and there should be room for paid apps. I believe people should be paid for their good hard work. I just don't agree with greedy ones. eh, adobe. hehe.
MacOS is toy OS, it was made for kids. This OS don't treat me as computer admin but rather than limited user which is terrible. I rather use Windows even Windows XP rather than MacOS crap.
lol, absolutely not. Just alone the fact that logging in as root is possible and any file is touchable (with integrity protection disabled) makes it much more "adult" than windows.
Because POSIX compliance + huge software support (proprietary and FLOSS). And because it is the only platform where developers really cares about consistency of user experience. And consistency equals predictability and productivity.
Everyone: Siri
Chris: *Suri*
I started using the Mac because I had to make apps. I then noted that whatever you attach to the system, simply works. That's not so much the case today, but then, Windows and Linux would rarely accept flawlessly a printer, a bluetooth device or some exotic hardware. For quite some time I tried to "break" the Mac, with all sorts of peripherals, with scarse success. Even with handmade hardware, the Mac tried hard to make things work. And sometimes succeeded even then.
I appreciate very much the fact that voice recognition works close to perfect and allows me to write large documentation by loudly thinking. I then pass over the text and correct manually, but most of the times I am happy with the results. This feature is really useful for writers. I have tried so many hard- and software solutions, but only the Mac nails it.
For a while I was convinced that software was better than on other OS's, but then I learned the truth: It's enough to think different in order to get accepted in the app store, and I found a lot of examples where developers have not thought at all ... which is a sort of different thinking, I admit 😊
Apple tries hard to seem close to customers, but in the end, their only concern is to make money and do nothing in exchange. Even this is quite a different way to think, but it is incompatible with my ethics. I am alienated by the concept of calling (and employing) "genius" people in shops. I am convinced that everybody is in their field a genius, but what Apple does, is arrogant. And arrogance and stupidity are going hand in hand.
So here it is, my honest opinion about the Mac and its OS, and its makers and doers.
Sir you missed the most important point for the developers....Mobile App developers specially need a mac to compile souce code for IOS apps....on windows or linux we are not able to compile apps for ios...So that we can't be able to build apps with the modern technologies like flutter,ionic,react native,xamrin forms etc.
Good point for those mobile app devs out there. MacOS is pretty much needed.
@@ChrisTitusTech yes sir... that's why I was wondering around to find best guide to hackintosh my laptop so that I can get some benefits...
@@muhammadusmankhan6761 You should be able to do that at least for a few years, till apple phases out intel and the x86 architecture in general completely from support.
Just search forums for hackintoshing (not linking directly to anywhere you can do such)
Disclaimer: It's against apple's EULA to put macOS on something that's not a mac that apple supports w/ the version you are trying to use (yes, that also means installing a newer macOS than what is officially supported by apple also would be against their EULA) [also it might be technically illegal depending on where you are]
That's just apple beeing a shitty company.
You wrong bro, you can keep compile android and ios on non mac device, if you react native developer you still can use expo. But still if you have paid apple developer id. It's not lack of compatibility but only if you have 99 USD money or not.
Why do you need global shortcuts to launch specific apps when you can just do Command-space, ch to, for example, launch or switch to the last active Chrome window? It's easier than trying to contort your fingers to do one keystroke with several modifier keys.
I love my Windows computer. I can edit videos on it, I can edit audio on it, I can modify pictures with it. There's an abundance of software available. I can buy any hardware for it and know that it will work. I haven't gotten a blue screen of death since before Windows 7. For the price of a Macintosh, I can have a killer Windows computer. And finally, "my Windows 10 computer just works."
Before Windows 10 I would have said the same. But now I'd rather take a Mac over Windows 10's garbage unless you are a PC gamer. Most creative software is as good or better than Windows on the Mac without them spying on you or updating in the middle of your work.
@@bored78612 Windows 10's garbage! That's the point. Nothing else to say.
I'm not sure what your talking about when you say Windows interrupts your work with updates. I've never had that happen.
With regards to Apple not spying on you, are you sure? You may want to look into that.
Also, what exactly is "garbage software"? If the software does what I need it to do, whether free, or for a price, and does so easily and efficiently, like Google Chrome, how is it garbage?
Since it will probably come up next; yes, Windows has more virus threats due to its large install base. However, in my many years of using Windows, I have yet to download a virus.
And I'll end by saying "Windows just works".
@@prima6170 Apple does not sell user data while Microsoft does. Apple charges (and overcharges for its services) but does not sell user data. Ask Microsoft if Windows 10 pro is HIPPA compalint they will stay quiet and point to the enterprise version whereas Apple says OS X is HIPPA compliant. You can completely disable the telemetry in MacOS but can't do in Windows 10. Using Windows is like paying someone to spy on you lmao. Yes I have checked this. Windows has become trash since Staya Nadella became CEO. By garbage software I mean Windows itself.
I do agree that viruses on Windows is mostly user error since Vista. UAC system has stopped a lot of easy hacks you could do in XP and 98 and stuff.
If Windows just works, Macs work wayy better as you don't have to deal with untested driver updates and botched patches by Microsoft's untalented developer team while also having way better battery efficiency and better hardware. If you have money, there is no reason to use Windows for your personal machine unless you are a PC gamer. And if you don't have too many proprietary software that you need to run then Linux is a great choice as well on PC hardware. I myself have switched to Linux for most of my stuff. And may get a ARM Mac laptop if they release it next year.
@@bored78612
bgr.com/2017/06/06/apple-spying-on-iphone-users
I'm glad you're happy with your Apple products. I'm also sorry you've had such bad luck with Windows that you found a switch was necessary.
I think the botched updates you are referring to happened a while back. I Haven't had any problems in recent memory.
For my part, I find my Windows computer serves me quite well. I can do all the things I've already mentioned quite effectively and efficiently. I like the vast selection of software and the scalability it affords me.
Enjoy your Apple products. Best of luck to you, and happy computing. 😉 👍
There seem to be two opinions on MacOS in the comments, people who just want stuff to work without having to do anything to tweak their system for their preferences, and people who heavily tweak it to make it basically linux.
You can actually run davinci resolve on linux if you have an nvidia gpu
Resolve runs fine with my AMD RX580 on Linux.
Fun fact: the MacOS extended attributes are dated back to HFS+, and because of that MS had to implement them in NTFS (so you can copy files from Mac to Win and back and retain these attributes), so now each file in NTFS can have "alternate data streams" which are not seen anywhere but the command line, and are actually exploited by viruses, because all the alternate data streams do not add to the file size, so the viruses can just put their payload and you won't know that! For more info google for "NTFS ADS".
I'm not sure when the GUI utilized the ADS for the first time but ADS itself was available with NT 3.1 in 1993. But you are right that the reason was the mac. It was because of the resource forks for the Services for Macintosh (SFM). So it was not because of the HFS+.
AnAmigian is there a GUI for ADS?
Oh my, finally the best notification of my day hahahaha
On the topic of shortcuts and automator, something I didn't see you talk about at all is Spotlight search. Command + Space opens Spotlight, which in my opinion, is the absolute best search you can get on a desktop OS. I very rarely feel the need for keybindings to open programs when I can get to it via Spotlight in seconds.
There's drag and drop system-wide, including into the terminal. You can drag and drop text, files (for their path), whatever.
To launch an app quicker, CMD+Space and type it's name.
Automator is awesome.
But the best thing about MacOS for me is how easy it is for doing daily stuff. Separating CMD+Tab (alternating applications) from CMD+~ (alternating windows) is outstandingly productive.
CMD+Q is also pretty useful for multi window apps.
It's really a great system for power users, without the headaches of Linux.
Also, if you're into color accuracy, MacOS' handling of color profiles for monitors is just... It just works. Specially in multimonitor setups. Mirroring two monitors and want to have different profiles? Sure. Windows doesn't do that. Besides, Windows leaves much of it to the software developer to implement. Linux hardly even handles color profiles.
While I agree with you technically 90+ %, I have to say: very few Mac OS users open terminal. For them it's mainly Finder, go to Apps, run the program or create aliases on the desktop. I've Mac users gasp when I open a terminal: it's that UN-used. So this seems to be viewed by Penguin Glasses, if you can dig. Not a bad review at all, just not at the level of why Mac OS users would really use it.
The #1 reason I've switched back to a Mac multiple times (and I still use my 2015 MBP 15" even though I just bought a brand new Zephyrus G14 in April) is the hardware support and performance for creative applications. For audio especially, nothing works as well on Windows or Linux as it does on a mac, or at least none of the audio hardware I've ever owned). Shit just works, no audio stuttering, roboting, driver installing issues, none of it. The kernel for Darwin just plain handles this kind of work better. I've done a lot of linux audio tuning to try to get low latency audio going on creative focused distros and it ends up being tons of work for less than stellar results. The experience I've had since switching back to Windows full time for the first time in close to a decade has just been awful. Driver installation issues, poor audio quality when using my nice hardware for video meetings, just a rediculous let down. Mac is just the simplest platform for any kind of creative production, its decent for my day job (web development), and good at sitting around consuming content too. The only real reason I don't use it daily any more is that performance for Docker based development is attrocious and the hardware is expensive (and while I've built a Hackintosh, its just a lot of work to maintain). Just my two cents as a user of Linux, Mac, and Windows.
As a musician who currently does not have a Mac, I miss macOS every day. Hoping to be able to get a Mac in the next few months, but at least for now I don't have to use Windows
The performance should be equal unless you are doing something wrong.
The hardware inside a Mac and a PC is the same depending on how much you are willing to spend on the Mac or PC.
If you have a Skylake i5 mac with 2400Mhz RAM and an Icelake i9 with 4000Mhz RAM PC, you're PC is going to outperform the Mac.
And the statement "the kernel for Darwin just plain handles this stuff better." What exactly do you think the MacOS kernel is doing with regard to your software's performance?
The only difference the kernel makes is that any hardware will be better suited to 'plug and play' on the Mac. But as both machines are Intel and will probably be running the same software, driver support vs a plug and play kernel will have a miniscule effect on overall performance.
It seems your mistaking familiarity and your inability to do some basic installing as a problem with the software you're running.
@@MaffeyZilog scheduling audio ahead of other tasks. I encourage you to research how different kernels handle audio scheduling. It makes a significant difference in audio workflows. How you code your kernel optimizes for different workflows, there is a lot of info about this on the web in regards to Linux and the rt kernel mod for the curious
@@thatdustinleblanc I'll be honest and admit I don't know enough about audio processing in general to debate the point with you so I'll have to take your word for it.
It certainly seems more complicated on the low level than what I initially assumed.
Apologies if my initial tone was a little abrasive.
Amazing Video Chris, reflects perfectly as a fellow Linux user coming from Windows.
A lot of the things you expect to work as an Unix system, but with that uneasiness if something won't work sometimes (especially those keybindings or any 'hidden' things your OS is doing it for you)
Could your problems with the App Store be related to it being a Hackintosh? I have used the App Store for like forever and never ran into an issue installing stuff. Truth be told, I'm still on Mojave... maybe Catalina will ruin my experience, but so far it's been flawless :D
Hate the Mac App Store it's just about as bad as he makes it out to be, on the other hand it's way better than Microsoft's sad excuse for an app store. After getting use to Linux package managers, I find both very frustrating, adding to that, some of those package managers have become very slick over the last decade.
thanks for your honesty Chris, its the only reason I watch you . . also the interesting content you provide, thank you for your diligence.
The Windows-crew and the Linux-crew unite to explore the quirky depths of an unknown world.
Wrong. We linux homies are with macOS, not with windows cos its just not UNIX
There is no windows-crew! :P
Judging by all the lit up apps in your dock, i think I need to give you a hint on how to exit a macOS program.
Pressing the red button on the top left of a window on Mac doesn’t quit out of the application instance. It only closes the window. You have to press cmd+Q or select the application menu in the menu bar for the active application and click on quit.
As a Linux person, macOS feels insultingly limited. Pretty much every time I want to configure something, I find out that it's either impossible or extremely cumbersome to configure it the way I want.
All of the package management options are half baked or only half-integrated, so managing software with them feels very clunky, and the results are messy and stateful.
Integration between the native components' command line functionality and GUI functionality is shockingly poor, considering that Apple controls the whole stack.
Window management and input handling are somehow even worse on macOS than on Wkndows. Blech.
Just a deeply frustrating experience overall.
Apple reminds me of Android somewhat:
Me: I'll just delete these Google Apps I never use. TapTap....WTF?
Android: I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't allow you to do that.
Me: Screw you, Android. I'll go root! (Tries to use rooting tools, none work) WTF?
Android: Would you like to download more apps, Dave?
Me: Sure, Android...you do that....(starting to unscrew memory chips)
@@markh.6687 yep. Android is infuriatingly locked down and proprietary
I switched from MacOS to Ubuntu this year, and I actually found Gnome 3 to be even less configurable than MacOS.
I found the MacOS integration between the command line and the GUI to be fairly good. Using the "open" command, you can open a file from the command line in the GUI application it is associated with. And if you drag files from the Finder onto the Terminal, they turn into the absolute pathname of the file. Both of these features are insanely useful, and I used them all the time.
Mac is more for people who want to use the computer as a tool and the OS be out of the way and never have to think about it (just works). Linux is more for the person who likes to spend most of their time tinkering with the computer itself. For a former computer shop owner like myself it doesn't get better than MacOS. I also have two macs that run Linux in my home.
I think I have a rather interesting experience.
As a teacher we are given student and teacher issues laptops. The laptops actually vary and come from 2 or 3 companies. Granted these are all free laptops but let’s talk about the obvious question and that is can students use them for basic school needs? The answer was sure most of the time but often times, I found many laptops to have nonstop updates and overheating issues. The laptops would sometimes become unresponsive, reboot, and then start updating again. And while I’m sure some of it had to do with the school not setting the laptops up properly on day one, I found a completely different experience with macs.
A class set of iMacs we use for a writing class I don’t think I ever saw shut off for no reason. They all ran smoothly and functioned for the every day consumer without issue.
the result is me investing more in apple and less in other companies. Even better for sophisticated companies won’t receive a cent from me due to how complicated they seem to be on the user end.
The desktop trackpad really makes the Mac experience for me! It kills me that scroll direction natural setting applies to both mouse and trackpad- you can't differentiate. I'd like "natural" for the track pad, but Not with the mouse. Too much to ask apparently.
Currently I can 4 finger swipe between remote and vm desktops with my Mac seamlessly. This is top 5 coolest things imo.
Mechanical Vegan there’s an app for that, you know. use google.
@@PlamenTsilkov so if I should have used google, and you know something here, why haven't you just shared it?
@@vgnfab Cause I did it a long time ago and don't remember the name and/or url of every app I use. Sorry.
Do you use the Magic Mouse? I find it works really intuitively when scrolling naturally on that device. The same can't be said though when I plug in the mouse I use for gaming which uses a scroll wheel. When I've finished gaming but continue to use it for browsing, I notice I would definitely prefer the windows conventional scroll direction. So it depends on which mouse I'm using.
SteerMouse is $20 but adds a ton of mouse settings for each separate device
The inverted mouse scrolling makes a lot of sense when using a Magic Mouse. With a scroll wheel, not so much. The problem comes when you want to use different mice, one Magic Mouse and one regular one. There are tools that can help you out, but natively, you can only select one scroll setting system wide, not different ones for different mice.
As for gaming, the situation isn’t as bad. Most games that exist on Linux also exist on the Mac. Still, it’s of course no gaming machine and with the switch to ARM chips, all GPU support is gone.
The biggest plus is of course the Apple ecosystem. It is a golden cage of course as it kinda locks you in, but it’s just so convenient. Sure, you can do all of that using Linux and Android, but you will have to fiddle a lot before it all works.
Using the Cmd button is a bit weird for a while, but it makes sense (you’re entering a command after all, you’re not controlling anything) and it works particularly well when working with the terminal (the shift+ctrl thingy always annoys me). What does kinda suck when using a keyboard with a non-English layout is the mapping of the alt/opt key to the super key. You can turn it on or off in the terminal settings, but neither setting works for all cases. But then I assume you‘d have similar issues on Linux as well.
The software situation is of course a great plus compared to Linux. There’s just a whole lot more. Though I don’t want to use Microsoft Office. The Apple suite which is included actually isn’t all that bad, in fact, it is pretty good in most cases. Overall, it does however feel as if they have stagnated a lot over the last decade or so.
A better question is WHY do people want their linux to look like mac os x or Windows? Why can't linux just look like linux?
Because if someone spent 15 years on Windows it doesn't make sense to learn all new shortcuts and workflow. It is just a pain if someone wants to do some actual work.
I have used windows, linux and mac. But overall i prefer mac os. The reason is i can have stuff in both linux and windows world. i can have most of terminal functionalities while running Photoshop and after effect. It increases my productivity as a developer.i like the way they manage workspaces with supper responsive gestures.
I had to use MacOS a few times and the keyboard differences were a headache because I wasn't familiar with them, but I think conceptually they're done much better than on the other platforms. Most common actions are done with Cmd which is a thumb key located on either side of the spacebar. Opening or closing a new tab is Cmd+T and Cmd+W both in the browser and terminal. Copying and pasting is Cmd+C and Cmd+V, again, also in terminal (Ctrl+C stops programs so there's no conflict). Switching windows also uses Cmd. That's vastly superior to the approach used in other platforms, where Ctrl and hence the pinky finger is used the most for modifiers.
The Mac scroll gesture is the same as every touch screen devices on the market, like idevices and Androids. Some of mac’s strength: color management, hidpi scaling, Spotlight (launching apps among other things), Apple’s own apps, mean bar on the top, virtual desktop “space,” Mac exclusive apps (with good looking UI). Try soundsource for audio management, it is a great app. Rectangle for windows snapping. IINA for a better default player. There a few Mac exclusive wallpaper apps that are very good, like pap.er (3rd party client for Unsplash). Hidden bar and bartender to cleanup the menu bar. Dropover for moving files.
For the gaming EXPERIENCE
What gaming experience?
@@fourseven9121 being hypocritic, gaming in linux is better than mac
Edit: i think i can misunderstand someone, so what i said was he is being hypocritical about mac's having any gaming capabilities or having suport, and linux have a much abroad community working on it and linux have better hardware price,because,well, apple.
@@FIRSTEBITOS steam stats for 2019 show 5% mac 1%linux 94%win... you linux users need to stick out of the sand when talking about gaming shares
@@And_Rec You can't really trust those numbers because you have to opt in to that. Being that most Linux users don't want to opt into any sort of telemetry service for anyone, it makes sense to see it at 1%. That's sort of the funny thing when it comes to talking about market/gaming shares across the operating system spectrum.
@@And_Rec i dint said linux have bigger gaming share, i just said drivers and work on "gaming" tools are far better in linux, corectrl, driver support, wine and proton, *32-bit and 16-bit support for games*, and said that mac is not cappable for gaming at the same price point as u can buy a laptop that have good support for linux, you know, *a heatsink is really good to stop the CPU from overheating*
The one thing that people don't realize makes MacOS awesome is AppleScript. Working in a graphics production environment where you're dealing with tons of files that need to be processed routinely, the ability to set up hot folders that run scripts on the files allows you to do a LOT of work, faster and smoother than you could ever do it in Windows.
The most recent company I worked for was Mac based and produced tons of different printed items (like banners, postcards, various types of signage, service programs etc), often from suites of products, and they have a system on their web site that allows customers to design their own products in a WYSIWYG interface. Being able to take their files and just drop them into the appropriate hot folder which processes and preps them for print is just so amazingly easy compared to the workflow in Windows.
But yeah, basically for the power user, Linux > MacOS > Windows (although to be fair, Win 7 was equal to OSX because it was the best Windows and OSX is degrading itself over time). One problem with MacOS is that in the future (probably near future) Apple is going to screw it all up and try to force Mac users into iOS (or a more iOS like experience). Also the evils of closed source are 10 times worse with Apple than even Microsoft.
For a non-techie, Windows is probably the best option because its ubiquitous.
me i use linux and macOS i only actually use it for ios development
I do believe this is the only reason which may someone should buy a Apple product. Linux (and even Windows) do the better or equal things than MacOS (mostly about hardware)
@@gabrielporto5610 windows runs better on Mac hardware than osx.
@@ashishpatel350 just no😂
@@ashishpatel350 Linux too
@@gabrielporto5610 but I actually do like apple hardware
But I like Linux as a main os
As a Mac user since G4... the first option I turn off on new install is natural scrolling 😂
A lot of people got the impression that macOS is very limiting due to the popularity of iOS, but imo that's never really been the case until very recently (Macs with T2 chip, Catalina, and upcoming switch to ARM, etc).
Those changes (yes, including 'natural scrolling') come from Apple trying to align macOS to iOS, and they despise long-time Mac users as well.
I like that it does not seem to have become worse. Arm is actually a huge step forward perfomance-wise and not just a control-move. M1 Pro actually replaced my Hackintosh and for most people there will soon be no reason for Hackintoshing anymore, not even price. The fact that Apple still allows kexts, disabling of integrity protection, crossover and more is giving me hope for this platform.
The @ symbols mean that file uses an extended ACL (access control list), This also exists on Linux, shouldn't be new... The other thing is not related to this, the System Protection ensures that apps and other stuff just doesn't mess with your drivers, etc. That's what that Quarantine thing is also about. You can turn that off booting into the recovery partition, but I wouldn't recommend that, seriously. Installing kexts is also simple from the recovery partition. Inside the runng OS, it won't let you just do that... I hope this makes sense.
I absolutely love what you do. I finally got the courage to start my own channel but I'm not that comfortable on camera yet😅😅I'd appreciate any tips if you see my comment🙂I'd also love to know How you put your time stamps so that they split in the video. Keep up the good work
Bruh, Steam for Mac. Not all games for MacOS are in Apple Arcade.
Arcade hasn't even been around for very long and isn't how anyone game on Mac. He probably should have researched that part a bit more.
As an enthusiast I'm a little surprised and disappointed over your scepticism of the shortcuts. Keyboard shortcuts and layout is the main reason I stay on Mac. It's so well thought through. You use your thumb to push the command or alt/option (which exists on both sides!) button, then one of your fingers to a letter or number. Some require alt/option (I'm old), control or shift also to be held down, which pretty much requires two hands to do, but that's by design, intended for more sensitive or rarely used commands, so you don't push it by mistake. Many commands are really intuitive. To quit a program, press ⌘+Q. To close a tab in a browser or sometimes close a windows inside a program or the program window without quitting, press ⌘+W. To open a tab, press ⌘+T. To switch windows *within an application* press ⌘+
Can you do a review of the $1000 monitor stand? :)
Mac gaming is slowly improving since the release of Metal. Catalina broke many 32 bit games that were playable.
Also, don’t forget eGPU support on Mac is pretty awesome and easy to setup.
Here is my flippant answer: I use macOS because I own a laptop with a touchpad that is actually worth using. On non-MacBooks, I prefer Linux.
I have a track point on my ThinkPad. I have disabled the touchpad to never look back.
Protip: Brew is the jank certain of a package manager for Mac. It gained popularity because it took shortcuts to get everything working... That if you're a systems guy obviously will either break security or mean Brew will break with updates (eventually). Warned folks about this years ago and... Watched Brew break with an upgrade. It interferes in/installs into system space. MacPorts had this had reputation years ago because... They were actually doing the hard infrastructure & respect-of-conventions route, and now it is a legit, solid manager. Not as many recipes or instructions but if you need stable, reliable software via a package sudden go MacPorts.
Install Linux on your Mac, a friend's imac 27 hdd died 4 years ago , fitted a SSD installed Ubuntu Mate , a bit of stuffing around to install. Worked a treat,
super fast, great graphics. They abuse this never do any updates still runs fine.
@Nathan Crabtree, “Mac OS is consistently getting worse” Agreed.
I live mostly in Windows, but I love my MacBook Pro.
Windows feels faster and the text on screen is sharper.
My work computer is a 9 year old windows 7 machine with a quadcore i7. I've never had a blue screen. It's rock solid. Just a little slow for video editing.
My MacBook Pro is a 2013 quad core i7. It's running Catalina and it's still very fast and stable. I need to reboot it much more often than windows.
What I love about the Mac:
- iMessage and iOS integration. Having text messages on the desktop is really convenient. Using airdrop to move files is great too.
-no drivers needed for most audio hardware.
-the trackpad and keyboard are awesome.
-overall built quality is outstanding. Iv'e had it for about 6 years, and it still feels and looks like new.
-when an app is on the app store, it works on all of your Macs, and it's easy to install.
-Time machine is the only easy to use backup software I've ever seen. It's really easy to keep your system backed up and do a full restore when you need to.
What I hate:
-Finder. I just plain sucks compared to Windows explorer.
-the dock is a huge waste of prime desktop space. Windows is much better.
-Apple doesn't make a sensible tower computer. Your choice is either MacMini, or an insane $10,000 Xeon monster. A simple $4000 i9 mac tower ($2500 windows equivalent) would be awesome for almost any creative professional.
-Frequent OS updates render a lot of programs useless, forcing you to upgrade.
-it's impractical to upgrade anything. While I can add a new mvme drive to me Macbook, it won't work right. I'm stuck with a 250 GB hard SSD.
What love about Windows:
-you can build a machine exactly to match your needs.
-Windows feels very fast.
-Windows is faster with the software I use.
-Updates almost never render old software useless.
What I hate:
-Auto updates tend to happen at the worst possible time and can take a really long time. A friend rebooted her laptop before an event where she needed Powepoint. It took 30 minutes before she could use the laptop. That sucks. A Mac won't do that to you.
-I have not seen a laptop that is as nice as a MacBook.