Mac Users Deserve Better - 7 Unacceptable Problems with MacOS
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Apple has a bigger presence at Linus Media Group than ever before: an increasing number of our staff are choosing their excellent M1 and M2 powered laptops as their work machine or use Macintosh systems at home. But this increased usage has led to more annoyances being discussed around the office… so we put together this list of some of the more noticeable omissions!
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
1:18 Corner Snapping
3:08 Full Screen is Weird
4:03 Traffic Light Inconsistencies
4:48 Scroll Direction Decoupling
5:22 Multi Monitor UI Issues
6:12 Multiple External Monitors
7:21 Volume Mixer MIA
8:05 Rapid Fire Points
8:33 A Difference in Philosophy
9:33 We DO Like macOS!
10:24 Conclusion - Наука та технологія
One of the craziest choices about macOS is if you select say 20 folders and get info, expecting to get a combined estimate of their storage...Instead it just bursts 20 separate get info windows at you. Yes I know the key combo now, but it's a semi common new user thing to hit.
CMD+Option+I is your friend
@@AnanthakrishnanThachilath And how is that "it just works" ? :D
Yep ive had the miss fortune of doing that a few times.
@@AnanthakrishnanThachilath I don't think needing to memorize and use a secret handshake should be required for extremely basic functionality. Nobody selects multiple folders wanting to get the information in separate windows, then have to add them up manually 😂. So I shouldn't have to memorize cmd ctrl optn ninja f2 shift minus 7 i to do what's wanted by literally everyone except that one guy frank who sits in the basement with his stapler.
i regret doing this
The issue with multi-monitors is such a big issue with MacOS. I can't believe how poor the support is for such a vital feature that a lot of users have to rely on, on a daily basis.
My biggest issue with external displays is the horrible experience with ultra wide displays. I have a Neo G9 and while it IS the extreme end of ultra wide being 32:9. Windows handles it perfectly with zero setup.
Also, what they didn't touch on was how Apple Silicon is basically lacking some type of AA that x86 Macs have, which makes non-high DPI displays look blurry.
I didn't even know this was an issue until one of my clients purchased a Mac studio and two identical monitors. I still have no idea how to get the monitors to behave correctly.
having to click into a different display each time to activate the display is the most annoying thing.
@@ghostlimits8453 I cannot get my 32 ultrawide to run at 100hz no matter what, I already spent 100+€ on cables, screen just go dark when I select 100hz
Recently switched from windows 10 pc to M1 Max MacBook and I’m surprised how many crucial features macOS is missing
Same here, it's a shame though. There's still a lot to love about macos despite it missing such important features like per app volume
I just did Windows 11, but used Rainmeter with many mods, MyDock, ported Apple UI textures/cursors,font.... I got most of the simple stuff that people get MacBooks for on a much more powerful device.
Same I switched from Linux to a macbook and I can't understand how this OS counts as "it just works"
I had to install so many apps just to get it to functionally work somewhat, it actually took more maintenance than when I was using Arch Linux
Rip 🙏
think also about the stuff mac has that windows simply misses i message hand off everything being synced with icloud . you simply want to use a mac as a PC which is not how you use mac. embrace the features mac offers
I switched over to m2 macbook pro from windows for my laptop (graphic design). It is nice to have a computer that can be trusted to just sleep. Its great to show up to a meeting with everything already running. Open the lid and everything is ready to show off and work on. However I do miss gaming, raytracing in blender and Autodesk Inventor. I add 3rd party software to get the functionality that I am missing.
Switching platforms is basically just switching downsides. You improve on some points but have to give up on others. It all depends on which points you personally need the most.
Yeah the standby is incredibly infuriating. How did Apple get this right on my 2011 macbook air, yet Microsoft still fails? And all others as well, for that matter.
similar case here. Although I only bought a mac because I already have my desktop windows PC, and now I wanted to have for the first time in my life a trustable laptop that just works. If it had to be my gaming machine, I would've never got a mac. Although I must say it can run some emulators quite nicely. Another thing I love about it is to charge it in 90 minutes and then leave home without packing the PSU. Over 8 hours of working time on battery at full performance. imo windows gives a delightful experience with desktop computers and a very bad one with laptops.
blender has RT now for pro
@@LuLeBethat has a huge battery sir
I can't believe you didn't start with no indication of transfer speed of external storage.
Disabling Spotlight search indexing on flash drives significantly speeded up transfers for me. But the hours of trial-and-error and self-doubt was painful!
@@fastmot1on 😂
It just works oh someone already said it
No need to even know that info truly.
@@stuartstogdill2406 many times I've been waiting for 20 plus minutes to transfer data to a USB. If I know the transfer rate, file size and the expected transfer rate I can diagnose a problem and correct it. Call me old fashioned but I expect a computer to work it out for me and tell me.
I love that Harrison trolled Horst by having him do the bit that he disagreed with!
Also, Alex taking any and every opportunity to rant about modern standby will never stop being funny.
Can agree that modern standby kind of sucks. Why the heck doesn't the bluetooth turn off? When I pack away my laptop I want my headphones to connect to my phone instead, but keeping the bluetooth enabled will make my headphones remain connected to my tucked away laptop for some reason.
I hope he and others won't stop ranting about it until they bring back sleep mode, it was a pretty nasty surprise that my new laptop doesn't support sleep mode anymore, now I have to rely on hibernate which takes much longer to boot and I have to raise the lid every damn time I want to wake it up when I have it attached to external peripherals. Plus hibernate is degrading my ssd faster, since it has to write everything in memory to disk. Thank you very much Microsoft, Intel and AMD for this bs no one asked for.
Having the fucking registry disable changing every update doesn't make me any happier...
I think thats on the earphones.
My old ones used to stay connected to the laptop but my new ones don't.
What I think the difference is that my new ones can connect with multiple devices at once, so when my phone rings they automatically switch to the phkne
5:10 right there with you! “Natural” scrolling is fine-even better-on a touchpad. But it’s completely bass ackward with a scrollwheel. To the point that since I’ve had to choose between awkward scrolling with my touchpad and awkward scrolling with mouse wheel, the #1 thing I do when setting up macOS is turn off “natural” scrolling.
This kind of coupling of things that are “obviously” [to me] likely to have disparate preferences within a single user is one of the things about recent macOS that is a constant annoyance. So a tool that lets me set touchpad scrolling to a “natural” direction while _also_ have scrollwheel scrolling set to the “natural” direction (which is the opposite of what feels natural on a touchpad) is absolutely worth the money.
Another example: “smart quotes” and “smart dashes” used to be 2 separate settings in macOS. Which was great. Typing typographers quotes is a pain, and the only couple places I might want to avoid them-Terminal and BBEdit-don’t use [that part of] the macOS text engine. But typing proper dashes (- or -) has been stupid-easy on macOS since…System 6(? Maybe earlier?), so there’s no need to have the OS automagically type them for you. It’s arguably even easier to type - or - on iOS. Moreover, there are not-uncommon reasons to type -- and actually mean --, not -, so turning on smart dashes isn’t just unnecessary, it actually gets in my way. So I have to choose whether to have proper quotation marks and also have to jump through hoops any time I want to type multiple hyphens, or have easy access to hyphens and dashes but then have to remember to manually type proper quotation marks (fairly easy on iOS; kinda annoying on macOS). Depending on OS version, you might or might not be able to turn on smart punctuation and then use a text substitution to override turning two hyphens into an em-dash. It has gone back and forth since they consolidated smart dashes and smart quotes. Currently, I’m stuck with em-dashes on iOS (without some serious hoop-jumping), and macOS overrides my text substitution but if I’m paying attention I can ⌘-Z it.
And none of this is because either option is inherently “good” or “bad”-it’s entirely because the options for two different settings are linked, and I argue that since it’s easy to type proper dashes and kinda tricky to type proper quotation marks, one should _expect_ there to be a group of people who want automated help with the latter but not the former.
What I hate is having to resize the Finder columns EVERY time I open a window. Also, no matter what I try, I just can’t get change the default Finder window size, the official instructions just don’t work for me. Maddening.
It used to work when I had my old 2006 MacBook
yeah finder resizing itself sometimes is a thing that makes no sense and should be fixed, definitely would appreciate a set launch size option in the finder settings (something like terminal apps have)
man. this is so annoying. every single time
To add to the multiple display issues, Apple's hardware could support DisplayPort MST, but they don't do it in software. If you put Windows on an Intel MacBook it works, macOS, nope. DisplayPort MST is the tech used by most docks to support multiple displays over 1 USB-C or thunderbolt connection.
I think this is due to their proprietary GMUX design. On hardware level.
@@PvtAnonymous why does it work with windows on an intel macbook though? it is a software issue.
@@SimonBauer7 no, it's a kernel issue. GMUX switching is handled very differently in macOS and Windows. But in theory, yes, Apple could rewrite the kernel to support DP MST. That won't really matter though I guess, since Intel Macs are being fazed out.
@@PvtAnonymous Hold up, you just glossed over your lie. Why did you claim this is a hardware limitation when OP just said installing windows on the same hardware has the feature work just fine?
@@PvtAnonymous so you say it's not a software issue and then in the same sentence tell us that it's a software issue?
I'm 41, and I actually remember the first few Mac generations having a lot of games when I entered Jr. High School. I was so jealous of my buddy who's father had one. It's strange to think that it shifted completely by the time I graduated Jr. High 3 years later.
This is thanks to John Scully. Macs were the go to gaming platform but they got complaints from business owners that staff were just playing games all the time instead of working (novel idea, train your staff better). So Scully went out of his way to make gaming on the Mac less of a thing to encourage more people to buy them for businesses. We're still seeing the result of that decision. Jobs tried to kick start it as a gaming platform again in the late 90's when he came back to the company showing off things like Quake 3 and... Halo, which was a Mac exclusive like Bungies previous games were at that point. Then Microsoft bought them out and made it an Xbox launch title. He never really forgave Bill Gates for that. Something else to add to the list lol.
@@TalesOfWar Oh, I'm aware of all this, I was just commenting that Linus must be really young if he doesn't remember the first couple generations of Macs having the best games. Also, Steve Jobs disliked video games as much as Hiroshi Yamauchi.
Apple has developed MetalFX, a competitor to DLSS and the like. They've even made "Fast Resource Loading" the equivalent of DirectStorage. Maybe Apple plans to finally win over some game developers outside the trashy mobile space?
@@Mr.Morden It won't happen so long as DirectX is the preferred API.
@@TalesOfWar Bill gates is a weirdo, but the xbox was done right and now has reached PC capabilities so now they just merged it all. The new halo has full crossplay between console and pc. More games with ties to microsoft will get this going forward. Xbox and pcs will basically be the same platform.
(5:15) As a Windows user, the worst about this scrolling thing is when software reverses it. "It's the Mac way", yes but I'm on Windows.
Adobe actually has this issue with horizontal scrolling. The vertical scrolling is correct, but if you have a mouse you can push to the right to scroll right, Adobe scrolls left. Very annoying.
tbh i like natural scrolling on the trackpad, but come on, i dont want the trackpad settings to mirror my mouse settings, i want to invert it on the trackpad but not on the mouse, is that really that much to ask?
@@astridlindholm1159 Exactly. There should be separate settings for these two. The software shouldn't even know what the setting is, all the software should do is: positive scroll = move content up and show more of the page further down. Negative scroll is the other way. Which way is positive and negative is determined by your system settings. The size of the scroll value is determined by the system settings too.
Lol Windows
@Liggliluff
As a longtime mac user, one of the first steps I do on ANY mac with "natural scrolling" enabled, is to head to system preferences and turn it off.
The entire concept is just something that apple pushed on their users so scroll direction by default acts the same across macs and ios. Equating this with mac users as a whole is disingenuous, even if most people (infuriatingly) have it turned on by default.
Fully agreed that programs should never fuck with / change direction though - just use whatever the OS gives you, and users can change that in their system settings if they want to.
And a simple way to explain how scrolling works is that *normally* you control / should control the motion of the rectangular *view* of the content (and scrollbars), and move those up / down / left / right.
And apple "natural scrolling" does the opposite, with the effect that the content appears to move / track in the same direction as your fingers, which is of course how scrolling on touch screens tends to work, and the opposite of how this would otherwise work on standard pc desktop / xerox user interfaces. How content moves "left" / "right" depends on your definition of whether you are apparently moving the content itself in the same direction that you're scrolling in, or your view of it.
If you don't match this behavior - ie. if the horizontal scrolling behavior w/ 2d scrolling doesn't match the above, given user system settings - of if for that matter ANY of the scrolling behavior doesn't match that of other, standard applications - then this is a UI bug and the developer implemented this incorrectly.
Though fwiw adobe software seems to work perfectly fine on macos, so maybe that's a windows issue...
MS Paint in Win11 have the same problem for some reason while in Win10's paint horisontal scroll doesn't work at all
As a both Linux and Windows user and from time to time MacOS user I can say that Ubuntu's Gnome implementation had combined all the best GUI features from Windows and MacOS. I am a big fan of Ubuntu. Kudos to them.
What is in Ubuntu that other Gnome implementations are missing?
@@viacheslavspitsyn2995 other then the side panel that you could easily add to any other distro using extensions? nothing
Eeeh gnome is not particularily convenient, though luckily on linux we are not stuck with one option and instead everyone can pick what works for what they want. Light users get their gnome, kde, xfce and whatever they are all called, powerusers have custom tiling wms, everyone's happy
But new gnome extensions management sucks
Back here after my return to Fedora on the third try. Well, I can say that it is way more stable distro than Ubuntu is and I agree that all convenient Ubuntu's features can be achieved by the same extensions that Ubuntu use. And what is more, vanilla GHOME has its own charm. The only extension I added to it are Hide Minimized, Battery Time and Bluetooth Quick Connect. And made Minimize/maximize window title buttons visible)
The issue with per-application audio becomes an issue during FaceTime calls, where it turns out they could do it the whole time they just don't let you change it. Calls automatically turn down the volume of everything else and too much.
Tim cook knows better at what volume your audio should run!
I absolutely hate this. It basically makes it impossible to watch something with someone over facetime. iOS has even more audio issues.
Ugh, them doing that with only Facetimes reminds me of a fricken stupid setting Windows has had since like XP - which by default drops audio of any program other than a voice chat program like Skype, down by 80% relative to it's actual Volume control value (eg: running Firefox at 50% relative to Windows 100% and start a Skype call? Firefox drops to 10% relative to Windows as that's 1/5th of the actual slider for the program). And often even when not using the voice chat program Windows *refuses* to return volume settings back to normal.
The *only* way to disable that default setting with all the GUI changes and Setting Menu changes Microsoft has done since Windows 7 - you have to dig out the Classic Control Panel (from the days of Win9x and NT 5.x (2000/XP)) to find the Classic Sound menu and select the "Do Nothing" radio button in the "Communications" tab.
When I watch movies on FaceTime I have to switch to Google Meet
@@falagarius exactly
Don’t forget mouse acceleration that can’t be disabled without terminal commands / third party apps! (Linear mouse is the perfect third party solution IMO if you’re interested, it also allows disabling of natural scrolling for mice, while maintaining it for trackpads)
Are you insane trying to go against Apples dictation how to use the product you payed your hard earned money for! You paid for the privilige of being stuck in their box of "user experience" pfff you are such a caveman
@@johnnybegoodgovbebad8426 True, after 10 months of using and not getting used to mouse acceleration I should just concede it's a me-problem. Thank you Apple for trying to help me learn the benefits of inaccurate nonlinear mouse movement!
Linear Mouse is a god sent, also sensible side buttons while we are in the topic of mouse usage
When I was studying graphics design our school used Apple computers and we weren't allowed to do any modifications to them, so this is the thing that gave me hell. It's insane to me that this is something that can't just be disabled, what were they thinking?
Linear mouse acceleration is good for gaming, but I actually think that a decent amount of mouse acceleration is good for office tasks when navigating cursors thought a large monitor.
My gripes are the window snapping that the video started with, and one that this video doesn't contain: multi-window programs (such as multiple chrome windows) are a single item in the Mac version of the alt+tab box. So, alt+tabbing to that browser opens up every window of the browser at once, even when I actually want to open a specific one of them and keep the previously focused window still in view.
Yeah trying to alt+tab between terminal windows drives me insane. They are top level windows in every other way, there is no consistency.
That's what I love about the KDE desktop: Although you might feel occasionally overwhelmed by the options, I can make it look and behave like I want it to. Not to mention that even a 12-15 years old computer can still have a nice looking and snappily behaving desktop. If you value sustainability in technology, that's a great feature.
How is modifying macOS with some haxies in minutes worse than spending days researching and modifying a Linux distro?
How do I get KDE to give me a universal consistent menu with all the usual items in exactly the same place in all Apps so I don't have to hunt for them, just "the way I want it to"?
Where do I get consistent legible Help files that aren't dated, dead, incoherent, possibly non-existent links to unfinished documentation 'somewhere'?
In fact how do you get any Linux Distro to just work out of the box with 80+ actually useful and well designed Apps?
@@peterbreis5407 kde plasma has a global menu plasmoid ("widget") you can put into anywhere in a taskbar / desktop, you can literally make macos' menubar in kde plasma completely, only without the in built macos help docs
@@peterbreis5407 you get consistent legible help files on the arch wiki, otherwise good luck
@@t-posekoichi2752 ...and boy do you need good luck...
...and unlikely to get it.
btw What Linux users think is legible, let alone well written, is on another planet.
@@t-posekoichi2752 No you can't.
The macOS Menu bar is not just decoration at the top of the screen. It has consistent content and purpose.
Wearing your underpants on the outside does not make you Superman.
When asked on Twitter, my biggest UI gripe is that when Alt-Tabbing between apps, if one app has two or more windows open, you can't choose which of those windows to bring to the front. This is especially annoying if that particular desired window has a frame blocking it (such as a save & close dialog).
True! On a good day I can have four browser windows open. I need to go to the windows menu and select the one I need. What a waste of time.
Yeah imo it’s a problem that’s throughout the entire OS (considering apps as the multitasking atom rather than windows). I wish the dock had better support for windows too.
Just get the free and open-source software AltTab. Works better than Windows implemtation imo
Not perfect, but you can tab to the applicatoin you want, and then use CMD+` to switch between different windows of that application. Still not as good as the windows solution for sure but its passably usable once you learn that.
@@oso3557 I love it, but it definitely doesn’t work better than the windows version IMO. It just doesn’t work with some windows at all (looking at you iOS simulator & Android Emulator), and will only show a menu bar or nothing at all for these applications.
Can we expect a video like this to be done for Windows and Linux as well? Would be cool to see all the different gripes.
that's not even going to be 7 or 8. gonna be 1 hour long video lmao
Good luck doing one on Linux. I think you'd have to review every distro individually.
the linux one would be a 5 video series. lol
They probably are doing it
We not gonna talk about W11 going osx on the sound mixer? Its burried deep in several menues now. This alone made me almost downgrade to 10 again lol. Thankfully i remembered ear trumpet is a thing. Im also a "task bar on the right side" type of guy. You cant do that in W11. sucks.
5:50 "You might love the default behaviour, but that doesn't mean that the people who don't like the out-of-box experience should have to suffer"
This. Every time I have a difference of opinion on how Apple wants me to do something, I'm met with "just do it the Apple way, it's better" - I don't care if you think it's better. I have different needs and expectations. I use macOS to check my websites work on Safari and I'd quite like to not have to relearn _every shortcut and gesture_ that I've committed to memory over the last 20 years.
> I'm met with "just do it the Apple way, it's better"
You are met with blind cult following which is (the cult) ok with the dictatorship. Also +100 to the shortcuts/gestures problem.
@@megamastah youtube, not 4chan
@@megamastah and ironically they have to pay more to get that
“I’ve committed to memory over the last 20 years” is it that hard to be dynamic? Robots act like this
@@BelkyRealm no, but it's harder than not doing it. That's why all cars have steering wheels and pedals rather than one company deciding levers are a better interface
It would be great for you do to a followup that examines MacOS changes since the Snow Leopard era in particular. Not just the fundamental functionality, but the UI/UX degradation, the increased difficulty of performing basic tasks, the tremendous backslides in enterprise/edu sectors with the end of Server and support for that feature set. I work in the EDU IT sector, largely with Apple products, and I can't point to much since Snow Leopard that's been a benefit to us, while being able to point to hundreds of things that have made the Apple experience worse or more difficult. Key among these are the complete borking of the once almost unassailable user interfaces on both Macs and iThings. They were clear, concise, easily visible, consistent. Now they are flat, low-contrast, grey, inconsistent and even directly detrimental to usability and productivity. We used to plop down first graders and they would just figure it out. Now we have to have specific special training sessions to teach the kids how the use the computers (even the older kids if they are new to the district.) If we were not so deeply intrenched in the Apple we would have bailed years ago. Only upside is that we get about ten years of service out of the Macs. That's, obviously, a huge positive.
I can't agree with this sentiment enough. It's genuinely hard to compile such a daunting list too, as there has been a decline in UI/UX in the manner of a death by a thousand cuts. For me, one of the big changes, was the loss of screen specific full screen. I used to be able to make something full screen, and I could continue doing other tasks on other monitors. Now I'm supposed to make each monitor a separate "space" if I want to do that, but now I have all these redundant UI elements, and it's just an _UNPLEASANT_ experience. It's made me avoid activating entire features, and cut into productivity, and reduced the quality of my experience overall. _I hate it!_
I genuinely enjoyed the old "candy" interface of old, but I get it... Times change, whatever... Fine... GIVE PEOPLE CHOICE... We used to have user selectable UI appearances in Mac OS 8 and I think 9. Mac OS 10 has had more UI changes than I think the stock System 6 though 9 UI have collectively experienced! I hate where the UI design has gone.
I feel like I'd have to go back to some of those old systems to even remember what I've lost, as Apple seems intent to slowly break my expectations and force me down a path I don't wanna follow. I think Mountain Lion was the last time I felt like Mac OS got an upgrade as opposed to a downgrade when number go up. That doesn't even mention the loss of legacy software that comes from dropping 32-bit app support. There is ZERO reason that a 32-bit application can't be run on a 64-bit OS. Sandbox it if you must. Whatever. Screw Apple for taking away legacy apps, classic games, old but useful utilities... Most of these from long gone companies... There's no replacement for that. I would literally consider paying money for 64-bit Mac app that would act as a shell to launch 32-bit Mac apps.
UI / UX teacher here. Always had a feeling the skeumorphic interface was easier to use. Could you point to some specific interfaces (even just icons) that's hindering smooth interactions which I can research & demo for my class?
@@StoriesWithGR The sidebar is a UI and UX issue for me. It's neither fast to open/close nor intuitive at hinting what the sidebar contains when it's closed.
@@TheDanielLivingston Thanks ton! That's a great point. Would request you to please fill in more such examples whenever you think of them which I can share with my students :)
It just seems like Apple's design team don't actually use these machines and think ordinary people aren't "power users".
I like how Alex has been mentioning windows modern standby in every video he has been in lately. I agree Microsoft, please make this addition optional!
I’m thinking of selling my (relatively) new laptop and going Mac for this reason. Once or twice a month the laptop will fail to come out of the standby mode causing either a BSOD or the laptop to just not turn on when I open the lid (and needs to be power cycled). Causing me to lose my open windows and programs. Also the laptop arbitrarily goes into hibernation, meaning sometimes I can leave the laptop unplugged for two hours and have it lose 30-40% of battery because modern standby drains battery like fuck
@@ILoveWomen yeah, I set my laptop to go into hibernation by default when closing the lid on day one of owning it. The first time i closed it, the fan kept running at full tilt for minutes on end, that's so annoying. You should be able to decide how your pc behaves on standby.
it definitely sucks and ruined my SP4 experience.
not sure if this has been fixed with the newer m1 or m2 macbooks, but my old Macbook did have something similar (i believe its called power nap). It drained my battery, made my backpack warm, and wakes my laptop even on standby. Theres an option to turn it off in the settings but it never worked for me. It's why I almost never want to put my macbook on standby.
Then again, my current Windows laptop still does it. i guess i can never escape it.
I’ve got a macbook instead of a windows laptop, modern standby was probably the most impprtant reason. They should make a dedicated video documenting issues with modern standby and compare it to macbooks.
My biggest issue is mouse acceleration, I am not exaggerating in saying that I have spent over 8 hours total trying to disable it. I found temporary success with a trial of a program, but the fact that you have to pay for a 3rd party program to get such a simple feature is insane
linear mouse is free
SteelSeries ExactMouse used to work on x86 Macs, haven’t tried it on the new ones.
I believe there is a command line to stop it? I have disabled mine with some code copy and paste into the command line tool. But I do know it does sounds a lot more sketchy than using an app to switch it off.
@@TypeErrorDubs It works on new ones, can confirm :) That was my solution as well.
@@kzed Does this have a native ARM version?
What’s freaking upsetting is apple doesn’t allow multiple monitors off a single USB C…. But if I switch to bootcamp on the same hardware, BOOM, it works.
Huh? I have a Thunderbolt 4 dock connected to a single Thunderbolt 3 port of my MacBook Pro supplying it with power while having 2 4K 60 Hz monitors (could be 3), 2 more Thunderbolt ports, audio, LAN abd several USB 3.2 ports working with no problems!
@@MVEProducties thunderbolt 3 & 4 works, standard USB-C does not.
Intel Mac allow more than 1 external monitor out of the box and you can even use eGPU for that.
But Apple Silicon Mac can't that these and has no Bootcamp, so...? What are you talking about
@@MaxLittleBuddy I have a 2019 macbook pro. NON thunderbolt docks/dongles are software limited by MacOS.
My USB-C dock has 2 HDMI cords.
MacOS only lets me use one of them.
If I switch to BootCamp, both ports work.
I won't say this is well known, but this is a fact.
@@MaxLittleBuddy Fun fact, You CAN use an eGPU to get more HDMI outs off a single USB C cable on silicon macs. Despite what all apples documents say.
There is a $80 USB 3.0 (A port) to HDMI external video card that can give you an extra monitor even on the M1 Air.
Apple claims it only gets 1 monitor out, and it does not support an external video card, but that is not true. And it DOES work.
I switched to a MacBook Pro 14" early this year after almost two decades of avoiding Apple products. My reason was mainly that no Windows manufacturers were offering this level of power in a 14 inch form factor AND the MBP actually had a greater port selection than the Windows competition (ironic since port selection was the first thing that got me to avoid Mac laptops). Since buying it, I find that I love the hardware yet and frequently driven nuts but Mac OS. File management (read: Finder) is the worst offender. I've lost count of all the ways it is less intuitive than Windows Explorer and it continues to be the bane of my existence.
I don't know about the "power" part, sounds like you didn't look much. Because it feels like there is infinite variation and price tiers when it comes to windows laptops. Like insane core counts CPU, 32gb RAM and 4th gen RTX with 4k displays? Sure, as long as you have the money. But the even crazier part to me is that how even inferior spec mac laptops cost like a kidney to buy.
My current laptop is singificantly cheaper than the cheapest macbook but has like twice the power (not even counting the rtx gpu lol).
And it was better when the finder windows had the customizable buttons at the top. Now they prioritized the...name of the folder for some reason, and shoved all the buttons to the right where they are hidden in an expandable menu unless your window is stretched super long.
@@Leonhart_93 It's not about the mere hardware. The M1/M2 Macbooks have far better battery life, audio speakers, display and build quality than your average Windows laptop of the same or lower price. I have used both an M1 Macbook and a Windows laptop with an RTX and Ryzen. The difference between the two is that the Macbook runs at the same prowess regardless of it being plugged in or out. The RTX laptop runs like shit on a battery. Which is the main point of a laptop.
I honestly think if one just wants a laptop as a daily driver the Macbook is miles ahead. Unless you need to game and/or software that Mac does not support.
@@weebeans1112 You might consider looking into Samsung's laptops. They're not top spec but like a Macbook Pro they're extremely well balanced and have great battery life. Also great for artists, since the built-in wacom digitizer essentially turns their 2-in-1s into cintiqs.
My only issue is that the newer models with a dedicated GPU lack the digitizer for some inscrutable reason.
@@weebeans1112 Nah, I don't want it for web browsing. the Macbook doesn't even have a fraction of the power that I want. I am the type that wants 120 FPS on external displays at preferably at least 2k resolution. Current generation games. How TF am I supposed to get that on a mac when they barely have a GPU? Battery is irrelevant for this.
The worst part is that they demand ludicrous prices anyway, no thanks.
Here's another one- try to set 8 bit color on a 10 bit color capable monitor. I was trying to do this to save some bandwidth to increase my refresh rate or resolution. I spent a day trying to accomplish that only to find out they deprecated the ability to set color depth manually back in the early 2010s.
Yup. Getting my LG C2 to look right took a month before I gave up and settled. Still can't get 120hz and it's random whether it'll set itself to 10-bit or 8-bit, with the HDR option disappearing on its own.
so it defaults to 10 bit when you are on a 10 bit display?
lemme guess, you have to type some garbage in the terminal?
Can you not use a higher bandwidth cable to get both?
@@jbnelson the port has to support it. It might be an older monitor with an older port.
Window snapping is one of the things windows gets right. I had to get Rectangle for macOS but it’s not the same and I’m not willing to pay for window snapping. It’s crazy how a feature just becomes routine and how annoying it is to then do without it.
You’re supposed to arrange and overlap your windows on the Mac, not maximize everything. The desktop UI paradigm is a metaphor. When you work on paper, you don’t use a single piece of paper the size of your desk. You have many pieces of paper and you rearrange them and stack them. It’s hilarious when I see PC users with one or maybe two browser windows on a giant modern display, and waste most of their screen space.
‘Swish’ is great for window arranging and other trackpad enhancements if you need more than the basics included in Rectangle.
@@coolbugfacts1234 In real life, the filing cabinet is next to the desk, so is the trash can and I have several drawers (that are not open at the same time).
I don't dump everything on my desk to start working.
@@tobiasnietgen okie time to work, dumps everything out
@@coolbugfacts1234 moronic shill
Adding to the volume point, I had to get an app just to let me control the volume of HDMI outputs from my Mac because TVs and stuff aren't controllable with the system volume by default. SoundSource let me do this, and also ended up having per-app mixing controls as well.
The monitor of my Mac Mini has a TV feature and because of this macOS thinks I’m connected to something thats only a TV and the system shoudn’t be able to control volume (which isnt acceptable behavior in any circumstance), so I need to or:
- Use the remote of the monitor to control the volume,
- Use a third party app
- Use as an output for sound the speakers on the Mac Mini
All of them sucks
For me, the one unacceptable problem is external monitor wake or detection issues. Every day I have to deal with the external waking to a black screen while the onboard is fine. I always have to unplug and plug the usb-c hub with hdmi to get the external to show something. I've read tons of posts online and came to the conclusion that you need the right combo of monitor and usb-c hub. The annoying thing is that my same setup was previously used on Linux+ Windows dual boot Dell laptop that never had issues with the external monitor detection.
The most important lines from the video: "Thinking different can also lead to a stubborn unwillingness to adopt a better method of accomplishing a task seemingly because they're just salty that someone else thought of it first."
Haha lol
And it's been like that since pre-2000...
And if it costs them a license to use whatever function that someone else patented, then they should just pay the damn license so users aren't having a nightmare of an experience. It's not like a dollar of added cost is going to be a problem when Apple's profit margins are so disgustingly large despite doing everything that they can in-house.
As an audio engineer who uses mac as my main system, not having individual audio output settings for different applications is such a frustrating part of my workflow. Using external tools like VB-Cable and SoundFlower has provided a solution that does work very well, and it allows for complex routing configurations that wouldn't be possible without them, it would be nice to just turn down a Chrome tab a bit :D
Can’t recommend Loopback and SoundSource by Rogue Amoeba enough.
I do audio on a mac. Have you tried soundsource? It's a little pricey (20 or 30 US if I remember) but it gives all the options to control volume by app and even reroute. Not sure about a single chrome tab though... 🥸
Volume Master is a pretty good extension
I have one application for you which will change your life and make Mac for audio 100x more powerful for audio work than windows ( & Linux kind of … Linux audio is insanely powerful just not very convenient….) and that application is Rogue Amoebas Loopback . Insanely powerful Virtual audio device creation and individual app volume control though the interface is a bit clunky
@@FrostBitttn This. It also allows to set the volume higher than 100% for that tab. Pretty useful sometimes.
I use both and it's nice to see these issues being mentioned. You can't mention flaws with Macs in other spaces as people always defend them blindly. Macs have so many issues and "don't just work"
Worst issue for me is no confirmation on changing display settings!
I changed my MBP to 100Hz on my external monitor which the MBP couldn't handle - no output (monitor, cable and dock can do this as another laptop handles it fine)...
Anyway, you can't change it back to settings that work as changing display setting in MacOS is final... and the display settings for given monitor ONLY appear on given monitor. The ONLY way to fix was to VNC (screen share) to change the settings back. Too way too long to t-shoot that one! Even apple support failed to fix it and only offered OS wipe as solution.
Another crappy issue is not being able disable sound devices AT ALL.
Also you can't output audio to multiple Bluetooth devices.
Apple have so many issues to fix.
Oh and you also missed the Mac monitor gamma, which for some insane reason, is 1.8 when 99% of the world's monitors use 2.2 as a standard.
I'm surprised how this disrupting and potentially malicious behavior of the Finder didn't get on this list: merging folders. By default, it REPLACES the old folder with the same name as the new one, and the "merge" option (hidden behind option-drag) doesn't pop up consistently and more often doesn't even work. As well as no possibility for cut-paste files, you have to open two folders and drag what you need from one to another.
The copy paste option is so you have a backup if the move corrupts or fails. That just saved my ass copying files from an external drive to my work OneDrive. OneDrive had issues and it was a good thing I still had the old files on my external, cut and paste I’d have been out of luck.
It does sorta have cut-paste option - cmd-C and cmd-option-V does the same thing as cut-paste.
I've been forcing myself to learn how to do these sorts of things through the terminal because I find the Finder app to be lacking in some key areas. I'm starting to get the hang of it where it's actually quicker for me to run the terminal commands instead of using the GUI.
its crazy how nice iOs feels compared to macOs. its like a neglected child.
@@GoodStageProduction0 keep telling yourself that. it is rarely going to be faster in terminal unless what you need to do is in base folders. You are just trying to convince yourself that it isn't that bad because you have an irrational attachment to an object or a company. You are not your choice in company, stop making excuses for them.
This is probably my favourite apple video in a long time. Giving each gripe their due time, listening to the community on a wider scale, and mentioning some good points too. Just how it should be
Now if only Apple actually listened/cared about any of it
Here's a tips: in Mac, you can always point the Open/Save Dialog to a Finder Window location by dragging an item from the Finder Window and drop it in the Open/Save Dialog. Extra Tip: if you hover your mouse to the name at the top of the Finder Window, a folder icon will appear. If you grab that you can drop it to the Open/Save Dialog
Honestly worst software limitation when it comes to external displays is the lack of MST support.
Weirdest Mac limitation I have found is that you cant plug in 2 of the exact same USB devices into the system. I had 2 Blue Yeti's plugged in to try and help my friend record a podcast. But Mac OS can only see the first one plugged in. Blue will actually reconfigure your mic if you send it to them to appear as a different device ID. On Windows, it just works and assigns them different ID's
Could you not create an aggregated device in the midi app?
7:20 .. actually the release of XP in 2001 also had the sound mixer that allowed you to control application volume independently!
i am not sure if it exist for each app separated,
but for sure something like sounds of system, sound of programs, sound of CD, etc
I remember this also in Windows 98, actually.
@@AfonsoBucco Yep it did exist for each app.. you may have had to open the sound mixer in the start menu to access it through
@@i00Productions what a shame. I never discovered that.
@@AfonsoBucco I stand corrected.. it was for each input / output not each application
Removed on Windows 11. I had to install a 3rd party app to get it back
I switched to Mac about 10 years ago. I’d say that I’ve never looked back but that just not true. On multiple occasions I’ve attempted to return to windows but found it severely lacking. I actually still have a windows machine but it’s mainly just for gaming. Which is annoying as it means I have two computers on my desk.
Then the latest version of Windows 11 came along and I love it. I really want to be able to daily drive this OS now but I’m firmly entrenched in the Apple ecosystem and there are a few things like Airdrop, handoff and the amazing Universal Clipboard that I just can’t let go of. So I think my dream of only having one machine is still in the distant future.
Why would you need Airdrop, handoff etc if you only had one machine...............................
@@nowandrew4442 I don’t have one machine. I have a phone and a tablet that I often want to transfer data between easily.
Old comment, but try KDE Connect. It may not have the Apple polish, but it does a lot of the things you miss, including clipboard syncing, and file transfer.
Linus smiles every time we get to the sponsors. He knows he loves sponsors, and I’m glad to see that.
I used to be a rabid mac fan. Then I started using a hand me down Thinkpad X1 about 7 years ago, just before Windows 10 appeared. Windows got exponentially better after Steve Ballmer left. They actually do listen to users on the Windows Insider feedback channel. These days, while I still think Macs are great and much, much simpler than Windows in daily use, I just like the sheer amount of flexibility in Windows, especially so since WSL was released.
I agree! All of my PC's still work. My Mac's are all dead.
Why do you think macs are easier to use? I'm not a Mac user myself, I'm just curious.
@@quinndepatten4442 In my experience its down to forcing you to do things their way. If you only ever use Mac and want your hand held for everything, its probably is easier. But if you've spent any time using Windows or Linux, its an absolute chore as really simple things are often hidden behind keyboard shortcuts you need to somehow already know about.
Want to file things how YOU want? No, MacOS wants you to index everything by meta data. Use a NAS? You're so out of luck as you can't search files on there unless its indexed, which I do not want to waste space or CPU resources on when I primarily use Linux and Windows.
@@quinndepatten4442 Because they are very Orwellien in design. Everything pretty much exactly the same all the time for everyone. Nothing too fancy, and the fancy stuff pretty much does everything for you. It's like the mother bird of computers.
To me, I see Apple products being for people who aren't great with computers because they hold your hand.
WSL is magic.
Now if they'd fix the taskbar in windows 11 and stop using the OS as an involuntary ad platform, I might upgrade from windows 10!😂
Did you know, Microsoft has patents for "Create new file" in a context menu and "snap window to screen edge"?
This *might* be the real reason why it's not in macOS.
😳
can you provide some sources of these patents?
@@akzarma unfortunately, all my links and comments are blocked by UA-cam
ah, where did you find them though?
@@akzarma literally every keyword I try is blocked. It's "Method and system for efficiently creating a new file associated with an application program"
I've been told that window snapping is patent-protected, which is likely why it isn't present in MacOS by default.
As far as the audio stuff goes... I've actually been finding Rogue Amoeba's software to be great for me in this regard, but I am also the kind of person who has their TV audio sent to my machine over the network.
Heard that long ago as well but, then how can all of these third party apps do it and charge money for it?
I wonder why they just removed the option to schedule shut downs or power-ups in certain week days. It worked great and was very useful in so many cases. In Ventura, it's just gone. WHY, Apple? WHY???
its not? just somewhere else in the ventura settings, remember still seeing it though
I daily drive a mac and i'm a windows power user. This video is very accurate on the gripes we mac users deal with on a daily basis. It makes me wonder if MacOS developers actually use MacOS
I often wonder if the Xcode developers have ever touched Xcode in their lives, too. Plus I feel like over time, macOS releases have been getting worse in terms of stability, and they still force you to install the most recent version no matter what to be able to develop or even deploy to the newest version of iOS, which is really rough.
Well you can't make MacOS apps on Windows so technically they pretty much have to lol
@@GeneralKenobi69420 but there’s just no way any developer or development team would be okay with using Xcode as it currently exists: it’s super unstable, the project system is a nightmare to use, and some features (like swift package manager) work so poorly they’re more likely to get in a developers way than help at all. Syntax highlighting often just breaks, and it always takes like 4 hours to install updates!! Like if they just use Xcode and they don’t have some kind of modified better internal version I feel so sorry for them (and I’m so confused how it’s possible for Xcode to be so bad).
Average MacOS user is right now having meltdown over Elon kidnapping their precious blue bird 🐦 same kind of people who write articles how they've just replaced their computers with iPads because you know, they don't do any real work 😂👌
IPhone devs are no choice. They must develop on macOS which sucks
Two big things I am missing in macOS - Vulkan and developer friendliness. First one is obvious - no support for crossplatform API makes Apples very unfriendly gaming machine. MoltenVK still struggles to provide a Vulkan layer on top of Metal due to Metal's limitation. Second one is not about developers who already own a Mac, but about those who don't. For example, you wrote some app that can be easily made crossplatform. Building Windows exe on Linux or Linux binary on Windows is solvable quite easily. Building an macOS executable without a Mac is almost impossible. You are either forced to use VMs or some Docker images violating license, or register some Github account (and pay for it if your code should be private) to utilize their machine fleet.
This is why we have "Mac People" in our dev studio, if something is broken on a Mac you just pass it to the Mac People as you have no chance of fixing it without becoming Mac People yourself.
Yeah apple hates developers.
Why do I have to use a mac for programming for you?
Why does the iOS VM only run on mac? Android just gives you the tools if you want to use them with whatever you like
Why are you forced to use their IDE? Google doesn't care if you use android studio
Why Metal? Vulkan is the standard (funny that apple says it want to become a gaming platform ... without vulkan)
Why do you have to pay 100 bucks every year to be on the App Store? On android it's a 40 dollar fee once
I know most of these can be answered with: it makes them more money
and pretty much everything else, because they are stubborn
A lot of developers already use your products just because they want to. Apple doesn't even have to force them onto it. Homebrew is great and macOS is a good balance between Linux (command line, package manager, etc.) and Windows (Office, Adobe, etc.). Their stupid garbage complicates pipelines and development in general.
MacOS not having Vulkan support has really bothered me. Apple's hostility to open standards the rest of the gaming world uses really hurts their chances of becoming big in gaming and I've seen too many Mac people deny that. Apple has a huge uphill battle they'll have to fight if they want to do well in gaming including supporting open standards like Vulkan
I supported and used many systems and operating systems over the years and used various flavors of SUN OS, Ultrix, VMS, Windows, Linux, Solaris, and many more. From a support standpoint, I found working with Apple's OS flavors was like working with my hands behind my back and expected to remove a screw from the back of the computer. The OSs hide some of the more important tools and have some of the most unintuitive error messages that out do anything that IBM ever came up with.
"An error occurred of a type unknown" is definitely a helpful error message!
Oh the irony ,here 😭😭😭😭
And sometimes you just get that low pitched “beep” that tells you that something, somewhere has just gone wrong.
@@kaischmidt730 Yup, that's another helpful thing. I actually forgot about that until you mentioned it.
@@Lucifer-pn2nd???
Agreed. Although I will say unfortunately Windows is following in Apple’s footsteps when it comes to generic, unhelpful “user-friendly” error messages. “Something went wrong?” That doesn’t help me. I’d much rather see “An illegal fatal exception occurred and the process was terminated. Error code:” because then I know what to search. I work in IT and I can’t stand Microsoft’s shift toward unhelpful error messages because it makes issues hard to diagnose. If I’m helping a user who gets an error when trying to sign into Teams and I Google it, I see several threads with entirely different solutions and no way to know what to try first. Give me a damn code Microsoft! But as for the rest of your points, I 100% agree.
6:19 I found out that it is possible to connect 2 external displays if one is hardware connected (Thunderbolt, HDMI) and one is with sidecar. Use this everyday!
Here's another one - poor support for different file systems. They don't support basic things like reading from ext4 (used by many common Linux devices and hence network devices too), plus have their own strange implementations of many network share formats. What's worse is Apple's now default APFS doesn't play nice with partitioning either, but that's a whole other thing.
To be fair, Windows is just as bad at filesystems like ext4.
Exfat works fine on them all. I only use exfat on usb sticks or it's a nitemare as that's the only one I found that works on everything And samba doesn't care what the file system is.
Is that why android mtp doesn't work natively on MacOS? (Need to install Android File Transfer or use ADB)
@@NicolaiWeitkemper Windows Subsystem for linux shows that it can and does play really well with ext4 partitions now
Actually APFS is really good for doing dual booting of various Mac operating systems, if they are supported that is. All you have to do to remove an OS is nondestructively delete the partition as it is a virtual one, what they call a volume. It’s really all on one drive but they virtualize the partitions so there’s no resizing.
That’s the thing I miss the most from windows, is the edge snap… Im glad someone told me about Rectangle, it’s pretty great. Second thing I miss is setting the volume per application :(
BetterTouchTool also has edge snap, in addition to also letting you fully customize your magic mouse or trackpad gestures (such as gestures for window snapping).
For the audio I ended up purchasing SoundSource by Rogue amoeba. It is quite expensive (just checked it is at $40) but I missed audio controls too much.
„Sound Control“ is a great third party mixer application that lives in the menu bar, very similar to windows volume mixer
Rectangle is truly a lifesaver
Windows snapping alone is the reason I'm still with Windows. That and the fact that it won't randomly block permission of any legacy apps I need and force me to enable the permission and restart the whole thing.
Using multiple monitors on a mac also has the effect that, when a new window is opened, it appears to be placed randomly... you never know where it's going to appear. For instance, copy a few files and the progress window can appear in the main screen or maybe at the left, or right... who knows!
I had to switch to mac cause I develop cross platform mobile apps for iOS and Android, and what pisses me off the most after working for 5 years on linux is the lack of a proper window management support like i3wm (there is yabai and it sort of works, but it's not the same experience as i3). Also, they removed bluetooth related tooling and codecs, there are people stuck with SBC despite headphones supporting AAC and other codecs. One more thing that annoys me is I can't permamently set my desktop background, it reverts after a week or so
I’m in the opposite situation where I have a MacBook that I know and I’m used to, and I’m spending some time working on Ubuntu. I’ve enabled dark mode but it doesn’t apply to everything, so I’ll switch from VS Code to a browser tab and I get blinded by a fully white screen every time, it genuinely gave me a headache earlier today. Then there’s the big where if you have a menu open and try to take a screenshot it makes the OS freeze. I had to hard reboot the laptop 4 times yesterday. And once you’ve taken the screenshot you can’t mark it up or resize it. Really lacking in features and robustness compared to macOS.
Your Linux system lacks features? I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you were unable to find the setting menu. Hint: it's usually top right hand corner of the screen.
For the issue with dark mode its because some windows use a different framework whether it be gtk or qt you have to set dark mode for both of them. For screenshots use a different screenshot program. I use grim on Wayland
A really small quality of life thing in windows that I like is when you have multiple windows snapped to full screen you can click on the doc icons to swap between them. This doesn't work in a sensible way in mac os and just makes multitasking harder for no reason.
The other thing you can do is use Alt+Tab to switch between active apps
I just use separate spaces, personally
On Windows 11 it actually group snapped windows into single group that you can switch to.
@@surferdude4487 that's fair, I just do it differently lol. I have both a windows laptop and mac laptop rn (m1 pro mac for video editing, convertible windows for school note taking and essays) so I find it annoying to try to use different muscle memory for each constantly.
@@samk2407 you can actually ALT Tab (windows) and command tab on (MACOS)
I used a little utility called Scroll Reverser on my old Intel MacBook Pro to give myself the ability to use standard scrolling on a mouse and keep natrual scrolling on the trackpad. It seemed to work very well and I hope it's available on Apple Silicon.
works on m1, i use it too👍
It works, but I find it not working properly all the time. Sucks that Apple goes such lenghts to just fuck with you if you don't have everything from Apple. You have two sepearate buttons and you link them up? WHY Apple?
I always get annoyed by the term 'natural scrolling' whenever I turn it off on a new system. Like, it feels natural to me, so why are you (Apple) calling me unnatural?
Thanks for sharing!
Why keep "natural" scrolling on the trackpad? It's not a touch screen where you push the content in a certain direction. It's still a scrolling device controlling the scrollbar on the screen, which is going down, not up.
totally great video i hope the dev team is listening and it might actually make for a meaningful update. Right now i sit a couple generations old on software as there really isnt a reason to update for features if theres security updates to be had.
I bought a new M1 MacBook as a secondary PC this year with my ThinkPad X1 Extreme as my current daily driver. I last daily drove a Mac in 2010, and wanted to see what I was missing in the past decade. I ended up returning the M1 because the quality of the experience wasn't what I expected from Apple. In 2010 Apple was clearly the more innovative and fine tuned operating system. I left that experience feeling that Apple has been fairly stagnant the past decade. I do wish to see them return to form on the software front. Apple is certainly very innovative with hardware. I hope this video and comments like this become a wake up call for their software division so that they build a polished software experience.
Tbh you’re right. I have a Mac m1 for the past few months and I simply just don’t like it. No matter how much I try windows is just better
"Apple is certainly very innovative with hardware"
Funny you said that because 3 years ago people would have said "Apple has certainly polished out their software but they need to work on their hardware"
@@Syuvinya Because they used crappy CPUs by intel and by that point pretty old AMD GPUs. M1 changed a lot and even got me excited to try it even though I've never had a Mac.
i've been using my mbp from 2017 until now. starting from high sierra to ventura, as far as i can tell, there's no significance in between that updates, apart from 32-bit application support dropped. most of them are just redesigning icons, and smoothing user experience. in other hands, windows 11 shockingly offers more innovative updates from it's initial release until version 22h2. it's still named windows 11 but with much much better experiences and features
Time Machine is one of the only things that’s keeping me on Macs. It’s so essential to me.
I loved the variety of presenters in this episode. So nice to see everyone!
SAMEEEE
Need a windows video on how Microsoft makes the search tool search the internet by default. And how the notifications always show up on the primary display. Also windows explorer is slow and often causes other programs to crash but you can't change your default file explorer. Windows also doesnt let you give a priority order to audio devices so you don't know which "default audio" device it will use when plugging in extra screens and headphones. More on this windows has a saved configuration profile for each external montior you plug into, but doesn't let you edit it unless you are connected to that monitor.
Agreed I would love the option to use something like Thunar or Nemo instead of Explorer.
> Need a windows video on how Microsoft makes the search tool search the internet by default
i recently figured out how to change that and it made me actually use the search bar multiple times a day instead of once or twice monthly. Its such a bizarre thing to do on microsofts part
Powertoys (mentioned in the video) has a "powertoys run" app that is very similar to spotlight on macos. I'ts so nice to use.
@@sebastianstark3224 good to know
@@TacohMann will be trying this out
One thing that drives me nuts on the Mac is when I have a large main monitor and the laptop screen as a secondary, I'll open a window on the secondary screen, that window automatically moves back to the main screen when the system goes into standby.
You should mention about remote desktop!
I feel like you guys should really do a similar video for Windows and address various issues, especially issues such as Modern Standby and the mess that has caused
You are here talking about it right now... what are the issues?
What is modern standby? And what's the issue with it?
@@thomgizziz 1. Modern Standby
2. Automatic Updates and how they cause driver incompatibilities by updating drivers
3. The state of color management, I have no clue how this thing works
4. Subpixel rendering
These are just a few to start off with
@@Gordoxgrey From what I've understood, it is a new implementation of sleep which *should* sip very little power, while keeping the CPU on, the laptop also stays connected to wireless networks while it's sleeping. The problem here is that it is usually not implemented well, and it sips a lot more power, just ploughing through battery and at times even waking up for updates, causing higher CPU usage, and more heat, and all of this in an enclosed backpack. So in order to prevent further power usage, the laptop decides to hibernate after a certain threshold, but that means you have turn it back on every time you open it.
For reference, my 5 year old laptop had no issues just waking up from sleep after being closed for however long, without any gigantic battery drain
@@thomgizziz I think there are a number of things that could be made better with File Explorer. Finder’s column view is really nice for digging around in folders, and the gallery view is excellent for browsing through photos and videos.
As an everyday Mac user - I agree with a lot of these points! I've noticed some weirdness dealing with network drives on macOS as well, but there are a lot of things I love about the OS still. The lack of support for multiple monitors on the base M1/M2 is disappointing, I'm hoping to check out a couple USB hubs that make it possible, but still not ideal. Great video!
Yeah, the Mac mini and dual monitors is why I skipped the Air.
What do you love about the OS that doesn't exist in other OSs? Most of this I love the OS isn't you actually loving it but some irrational attachment because you feel it makes you special because you stand out or some other BS. Get a grip on reality. OSs either let you do what you want or they don't and anything that is getting in the way of you doing what you want is a bad thing and not a quirky thing that you should love.
@@thomgizziz you need to find a better hobby than trying to pick fights with people about operating systems lol it’s not that serious, chill
Lol not ideal? A basic functionality ever laptop has had for decades now should be a deal breaker to any sane person XD
like I could multi monitor my shitty $ 400 HP laptop from 12 years ago XD
Tech tribalism is stupid, use what you like.
I like MacOS as it's the best laptop experience, I like Windows as it gives me the best gaming experience and I like Linux (Proxmox) for my homelab since it's an amazing hypervisor experience.
None of them needs to "win", just use them for what they are great at.
Double clicking the title bar in a third party app (like chrome) makes the window grow to fill the screen.
Double clicking the title bar of an apple app (like safari) makes it fill the vertical space but not the horizontal space.
WHY
Because Apple prefers you buy their widest monitors, which they deem too wide for your web content.
and double clicking compared to window is very graphical intensive, you have to wait to totally remove your finger from the second click before it activate full screen, unlike window where clicking the second click activate it without the wait to remove your finger.
This is hard to explain, but eventually the end here means windows feels faster in taking orders due to faster animations + faster clicking registry (not clicking releasing registry)
Honestly my favourite thing about MacOS is the virtual desktops which i just love.
(One question how does window emulators like Parallels work with multiple monitors, or even further what about bootcamp?)
But every other OS has similar or better virtual desktops.
As a Mac user, than you. I hope this gets some traction. I especially agree with Jonathan Horst about the inability to decouple scrolling direction between trackpad and mouse.
I agree. I use my mac on the daily, when im on the move, I dont use a mouse and when im home I use my mouse. It really triggers me because every time I have to navigate through the settings to uncheck and check the natural scrolling
Me too. I use "Unnaturalscrollwheels" and "sanesidebuttons". They fix basically everything wrong with mice in MacOS. Even options tp disable Mouse acceleration and you can use any mouse properly
@@playerguy7 Can confirm UnnaturalScrollWheels (from ther0n on github) solves the trackpad/mouse issue wonderfully.
This vide was cathartic for me. I recently switched my work laptop to a macbook pro purely for hardware reasons and the frustrations I've faced with all of (and many more) issues outlined in this video have made it a challenging transition.
Me too. Switched to a MacBook Pro 14. I spent many hours with third party tools and scripts trying to bring some basic features missing. Ultimately I sold it after two months. Remote Desktop into work PC with Citrix was not a great experience. I was sad to see it go as it was a beautiful piece of hardware and super fast. Surprised how far Windows 11 has come
Hardware reasons? A goddamn MacBook? WHAT WAS GOING ON IN YOUR HEAD?
@@Micromation apple silicon u bozo
@@stevenson1142 sounds like a downside no matter which way you slice it, bro
@@Micromation cope
My biggest gripe is no file path in the finder, or in application save file windows. I can't just copy the directory form another window, go there, and hit save. I have to manually navigate there EVERY TIME. Bookmarking locations from share drives (NFS/SMB, etc), does not persist when it disconnects. Maddening.
To see the patch in finder go to finder top menu VIEW>show path bar or in the keyboard press ⌥⌘P
and a tip that I constantly use to copy a patch that I want. I click 'save' in the application and in the box of that will be saved, I drag a folder from finder to that box, and Voila, is in the patch of that folder. works in all apps. (:
Preview of open applications in the Dock: The Hot Corner 'Application Windows' (or two-finger double-tap on Magic Mouse/Trackpad) does bring up a preview (or review?) of open application windows, and a small preview of any minimized windows, similar to Windows. Perhaps not intuitive but I've been using it for ages, probably as a byproduct of setting up Hot Corners back in my Tiger days.
One of my biggest gripes since picking up an M1 Pro MacBook has been that double-tap drag is implemented solely as an accessibility feature, and requires drag lock. I still use a Windows laptop for work, and I’m so used to double-tap drag from Windows laptops that it’s just instinct to use… but I have to leave it disabled on my MacBook. If I turn it on, then I’ll drag something and then try to move the cursor again, but I’ll keep dragging it-because the mandatory drag lock means you have to wait a couple seconds. It’s infuriating, and I don’t get why they can’t just separate the features, or have an adjustable drag lock period.
Have you heard of our lord and saviour Three Finger Drag?
This has annoyed me for a decade
In macOS you just push-drag. Don’t double tap, just push down the trackpad, keep pushing and drag at the same time. Only macs can do it (to my knowledge) and it’s more intuitive than the double tap drag
@@franciscoxc Windows and Linux absolutely do this, and it has probably been a feature for as long as trackpads have existed because you're giving the exact same inputs as if you were using a mouse.
The reason people would want to use double-tap drag is because it doesn't require you to hold down the trackpad, and holding down the trackpad while dragging can become tiring after a while.
@@marro643 what I’m talking about started being possible when apple launched the buttonless trackpad…
Thanks a lot for putting this out there! I was complaining for years about integrated window snapping (using magnet atm) and some simple stuff like scroll direction that is separate from the trackpad ... and some other stuff like that you can't lock your keyboard (if you want to clean it for example) because whatever you press boots Mac OS... those things may be small but can be extremely annoying! Thanks, LTT!
I also have some annoyances with macOS (but others with Windows), sharing some mentioned:
- dock doesn't stay on primary display when using multiple monitors
- "alt-tabbing" not working well with multiple windows of one application (when using multiple monitors at least)
- can't mute applications separately / volume mixer missing
- no cycling through images in the preview app
To elaborate on the second point, also one of the more annoying issues for me:
When I have two windows of Chrome open, one on the external monitor, currently in focus, and I switch to another application and then want to switch back via "Alt+Tab" (Cmd+Tab) it doesn't actually switch back to the previously focused window, but the other open window of Chrome, probably because it's on the primary display or because it is the first opened window of that application. Means I can't switch quickly without using the mouse in that situation and that's a daily one for me (well, at least when I have multiple monitors). :/
Also, not directly an annoyance, but I use a MacBook Pro Power from 2019 with pretty competent hardware (6-core CPU, NVMe SSD), yet an actual boot, not wake from standby, takes a minute or so - like it would have an HDD.
Honestly could only assume some of the short comings of Mac devices, is because of some hardware.
Like the biggest thing of multi monitor support, I think that’s hampered by the fact they’re using the M1, which is basically a suited up IOS chip.
Cuz IOS and iPadOS devices only supported 1 monitor, mostly for mirroring. But now they can and *should* support more than two monitors. Even though most consumers don’t use more than two, there are some who use three or four for certain things. Apples devices are great in this new silicone generations….. but they still have tons of things to fix about their devices, mostly with MacOS.
iPads and iPhones are pretty good, and iPads getting new features and more power is great as well.
Sure, the Mac studio can support 4 displays, but not everyone’s gonna be able to buy that at a base price of 2500. I’d only suppose they don’t do thus because some of the models have limited ports….. but the laptops could just use singles with HDMI ports, and those thunderbolt ports would be fine running those, and charging the thing.
Windows 11 22H2 has an even nicer newer feature for snapping (the "snap bar"), where just below the top of the screen when dragging a Window (low enough so you can still drag to top to fullscreen), there is a new interface you can drag to allowing snapping to variety of configurations, including 2/3rd, 1/3rd, and 1/4th screen snaps.
Dude i heckin love windows 11. So clean 🔥
@hugo anybody asked? modCheck
@hugo What? The second menu is only for the options that you rarely ever need to use, and I can eject USB devices with task manager open.
@hugo are you whining for making one click more than before?
@@wta1518 Question: Can you edit that second menu? When I had the developer you couldn't, and I cant remember what it was but I was constantly using the second menu. I haven't upgraded partly because of this (and partly because my 2x 2015 Toshiba laptops aren't TPM😁🤣)
Congrats! Funny thing is that I tried to migrate to Mac platform a few years ago, and the reason I stepped back was because of some of the issues you addressed in this video. I'm in shock that the issues still persist. How stagnant!!!
Interesting video. But I fixed most issues mentioned (which I found as well) in the first 3 hours using the mac and for free x) the most relevant ones were Rectangle and Scroll Inverter.
2:52 totally didn't expect a silent Guild Wars 2 plug :D
fancyzones has been such an improvement to my workflow (especially on higher res monitors where dividing the space up more makes more sense) that frankly it should just be included in windows by default. while they're at it they should make it so you can hold additional keys while dragging to cycle through different profiles for the same monitor
I am very excited to try that. I have a 48" OLED and previously searched for a way to divide the screen into 3 columns but couldn't find anything. It would also be nice for ultrawides.
And the temple OS shot made me cry. God bless you Terry.
2:56 you can double click in either the top left corner, the empty space to the right of the green button, or the top right corner to quick-snap a window to an edge
One little advantage Linux (and the open source/libre software community) has over this kind of issues: we don't need to wait for the "corporate overlords" to hear the complaint and hope they will act upon. We can fix things by ourselves and participate in the process of getting a better experience.
Very cool to include more LMG staff in the videos :)
I doubt that Apple will address any of these issues. The company only makes changes when most of the pundits start bashing them collectively and it starts to hurt the brand or sales. Personally, some of the problems raised by Linus or crew are not that important for me, and some are really annoying. I have been straddling the windows/mac world for over 25 years. As time goes on, I just learn to manage around these things. One thing though, when I stop working eventually, the first thing removed permanently in my collection of MacOS and Windows computers is Office 365.
Although I gotta say Office and Onedrive are way ahead for me compared to Google Drive (which looks great but is more difficult to actually use) or the Apple stuff (I have no clue about iCloud but being Apple only is already a no-go).
I'll stick to next cloud, screw both of them honestly
Thank you kind sir for the Windows button to move windows keyboard shortcut! Wow, very usefull :)
Honestly, this was a great video. There are so many little things in both MacOS & Windows that are super annoying. Lowkey wish someone made a forum post or table that (1) collated all these little issues in the hopes they would get some attention & fixed and (2) where possible detail/provide the quick solution.
Couple of examples:
MacOS: Lack of wind snapping - Magnet/3rd party app (3rd MacBook before I found out this was a thing, years of unnecessary struggle)
Windows: Lack of inbuilt screen brightness control - Twingle tray/3rd party app (spent four years using the little buttons on each monitor to change the brightness, 2-3x a day, as I thought it was a hardware thing that was impossible to change via software).
I definitely agree with all of this. Because of xcode I had to move recently to macos, and I am not happy to the extent that I have separate machine for everything else outside of work.
It's funny that MacOS and Linux are based on the same foundation (UNIX). One side you have the closed source our way or else attitude vs open source which might take some tinkering "out of the box", but you can get exactly what you want in the end (not exactly true in 2005 when I switched to Linux...but pretty much is now). Linux is a short learning curve and if you are smart enough to want to customize your OS it really isn't that hard.
@@scpatl4now I'd argue that MacOS allows for pretty good customization, and I have always found an Open Source app for MacOS that does the equivalent of something I can do in Linux, and you can achieve a desktop experience that is very similar to something you would use in a Linux setup.
Check out Yabai, Skhd and Alfred.
There's also several open source bars available.
@@Signynt Agreed, there's a great selection of Mac apps that can alter system behavior fundamentally and solve most of these "nits" in the video.
Bonus: they basically dropped support for exFAT out of the window since Ventura
2:07 Well, the problem is that I absolutely _HATE_ the automatic snap and resize of windows on Windows. And if I hate it (that's an understatement), then there are many others. But there are things on Macs that annoy me: (1) the need to click on a window to focus. On Linux I can (and will always) turn it off so that a mouseover brings the focus, (2) clicking on a window pops it to the top of the stacking order - absolutely maddening. Again, on normal systems like Unix I click on the window menu border to pop it up if I need it, (3) speaking of which: that menu bar on top of the MacOS screen should go and instead every window should get one. This was not a big deal until recently when screens got really HUGE, so now to select a menu bar item one has to move the mouse about 5 light years across the desktop, select the thing, and then move the mouse another 5 light years back to the window you are working with.
You are in a minority of people who dislike window snapping. But good news! On Windows you can disable it!
When I first started using Macs in the late '00s, I found keyboard navigation/text selection to be really inconsistent across apps. Everywhere in Windows, home takes you to the start of the line, end to the end of the line, ctrl+shift+right selects the next word, etc. Even after daily driving it at work since then, I often have to shop around to find the right key combo to move back a word or paragraph. (Keyboard shortcuts OTOH are way easier to customize and accented characters are much easier to type)
There is a solution for this, but it involves some system tinkering . Not difficult one, but it's comparable to windows RegEx. - Search Remap "Home" and "End" to beginning and end of line in apple Stack exchange.
Do you spend much time in Unix environments? I found ctrl-a, ctrl-e, option-left_arrow, option-right_arrow, etc. intuitive after spending time on Linux.
if you think windows is a better experience then macOS overall then please self administer natural selection
@@blaynestaleypro windows 10 certainly is, yes. A much more reasonable experience for half the price, with a far better feature set. The only reason I use mac's is due to them locking the iOS development to MacOS only. Otherwise I would prefer Windows for personal use and Linux (or WSL2) for professional.
This is my biggest issue with macOs, I daily drive one and it still drives me crazy every day, especially when you consider it gets even more inconsistent when you use an external keyboard
One thing that grinds my gears is the “Automatically rearrange Spaces based on most recent use” setting. When it's enabled, it keeps rearrangering my Spaces which is super annoying, but when it's disabled, enabling fullscreen mode on an app moves it all the way to the far-right of the Spaces list rather than next to whichever Space you are currently on, so you need to move it manually. :(
Also, why can't you decrease the size of the miniaturized windows when using Stage Manager. :/
I had to use a windows computer for work this past month. As someone who was a power mac user i found the experience painful. Funny enough my budget issue was the windows OS snap feature. I found sitting my screen between two applications extremely cumbersome and clunky compared to the macOS solution. You can also remap modifier keys on macOS which makes my life much easier as someone who needs the control button way more than cap locks. Last but not least terminal. Powershell just cant complete
Oh hey! I just learned about the whole scroll direction being tied together yesterday.
Using the "natural" scroll on a scroll wheel makes me feel actually icky
Long time MacOS user, since Lion actually. I agree with all of these, when I set up my new MBP 14'' it took quite a lot of extra utilities to get it where I wanted.
SoundSource is absolutely AMAZING app for controlling volume and output per app on macOS, but I shouldn't have to spend $40 for what should be in-built, basic functionality.
I use this application called "Background Music" to control the audio of apps individually. Works like a charm
Just want to add something about Apple's audio. Sure you can't control volume per application, but you don't need an ASIO driver (like in Windows) to work with an audio interface
Presume the binfire that is Mac OS Finder and file-management in general on Mac OS will be in a Part 2 follow up video.... or it's own multi-part series.
Can also use Spectacle for moving apps around, even though support has officially ended its still available for download.
One of the most annoying bugs is prolly the audio imbalance bug where suddenly one of the left/right channels becomes louder than the other and theres no way to fix it without the "Audio Lock" 3rd party tool
Agree entirely with the audio imbalance bug. Having to use a 3rd party tool to fix that is ridiculous. Every single effing day my audio was out of balance until I installed Balance Lock.
There is another app called Rectangle which does same thing like Spectacle and is actively developed.
Recently moved back from Windows to MacOS, because of m1 of cource, and beside that volume control that you mentioned - i am really missing path information leading to some folder. For example when i’m searching for specific folder or file, finder leads me directly into it, without posibility to go to parent folder.
go to finder in the top menu VIEW>show path bar or in the keyboard press ⌥⌘P
you can show the path bar (its usually at the bottom of the folder) but its still disgusting to use
Enable the path on macOS and it works just the same as on windows.
2:03 - seeing transparency when it comes to windows good features is nice for a change
I'm a Windows user and use a Macbook for work and you definitely highlighted some of the the problems I've seen.
Have your job buy Magnet, absolutely worth every cent!
@@schoonerthedog I use rectangle, free and amazing
@@schoonerthedog problem with buying for me is kinda 10% money but 90% closed source
I Leo to keep 3rd party closed source solutions to a min
Hence why I got to open source alternatives not just free ones
Even if I have to compile from source from the git repo
But that’s not an option for everyone