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Got a Piano de Voyage. Great instrument. Some of the features changed. The latch at the back to lock 2 pieces together now replaced by 2 screws. The carrying pouch for each module is now a rectangular case with a zipper. Portable keyboard definitely. Some little things that you find in a full-size keyboard including Rec (record) button, built-in metronome, music stand. The sound effects are great. But changing to a specific sound effect like guitar or trumpet you need to scroll with the up / down button until you find it. Using the Piano de Voyage in default Piano you just turn it on. The odd time you want a different sound, finding it without a display screen is a bit of hassle.
I have just spent a couple of weeks with my Model 'A' and I have to say the spring weighting improves quickly with continued playing. It is now quite responsive and doesn't 'fight' key hits. Basically it takes a couple of hours to break it in. Still not as good as fully weighted keys, but much more enjoyable to play than right out of the box.
I am a US based owner of the 'model 'A' (in the video). I have the full 88 with sound card. Here are my thoughts. (1) durability: by no means flimsy. The hinge/latch system works well and is robust. The keyboard is a true instrument and not a toy. (2) value: if you need 88 keys and portability this is the best option for you. Its not a Kurzy but it does the job, well. (3) Key weighting: not my fave. Spring weighted. Your taste may differ. (4) Build: excellent mechanically and electrically (5) sound card: pretty basic. adequate for most gigs or portable use. Of course, it is MIDI so you can use outside boxes for your (MIDI driven)sounds,(6): Shlepping: nothing beats it. It is LIGHT and goes in the overhead as carry on on a plane.(7) Buyer's interaction: Olivier is a straight shooter and you should not hesitate because of the wait time, or shipment from FRANCE. (8) Overall rating: An A- /B+ because of the rudimentary sound card and spring weighting of keys. Both easily overshadowed by the gigs the piano enables. Worth the price? Yes.
Hi, chip co! How is the sound quality (without using MIDI)? I would like to buy it to travel and busk with it... Would your recommend it? Thanks a lot! :)
@@Tangassi Sound card--The piano is passable to good but it aint no Kurzweil. The B3 setting is poor. Most of the sounds are sound effects and drums, good marimba, vibes. You cant jump easily from one sound to the next as this is controlled by two buttons with no display. I wouldnt busk IF you are depending on the sound card to do more than piano. I have a Yamaha F-30, which looks like a toy, but has awesome sounds, without midi. IF sounds were the deciding factor, I would take the F-30, with its tiny keyboard. BUT IF you can plug the PDV as a midi controller for an outside midi box, you have the best of both sounds and 88 key portability.
@@chipco5150 I totally understand you. I have a yamaha too and I know how good the sound is. It is a shame the voyage's sound card is not as good as the Yamaha's one. I will consider the midi controller function... I thought that It would be cumbersome but I am sure that sound quality is fundamental for my busking plans. Thank you so much for answering :)
Great video thanks! I travel a lot with a 61 keys and during my last trip it almost didn’t make it in the cabin…Seems like a great alternative despite the slightly high cost…no more stress at check in 👍
Amazing video, thank you. I noticed some people in the comments were asking about using a speaker with it. I have no experience with the Piano De Voyage yet, but in case it helps anyone: if it can be used as a midi controller and can be connected to iPad or computer, with sound coming out of the iPad or computer, you don’t need any additional separate speaker for solo practice, but if you wanted to play for a small group of people, you could probably hook up a portable iPad or computer speaker so that the sound of the iPad or computer is amplified. In that case, you wouldn’t need the keyboard itself to have a speaker or sound.
@@PaperPlateParody you can change the settings on your computer / in your DAW. For example, if you use GarageBand or Logic Pro, change audio input / output settings. Change output settings to computer speakers instead of headphones.
The only other item I know of, like this, is the Pocket Piano, that Jordan Rudess did a video on. However, the Pocket Piano has 87 keys, not 88. The pictures on their site do not show the keys at a good angle. It seems they do not have the depth of travel that this piano has.
Hee hee i know exactly what you put up eith. My first digital piano i gigged with was a Yamaha CP30. Felt ok to play but sounded terrible. And was humungous and heavy.
Sounds great Isaac let me know if you have any questions. I’ve already taken it on a trip through a lot of travel so I’ve gotten a good handle on its advantages and disadvantages. Mostly advantages so far :p
I also have a Mainstage rig, for my main keyboard I've settled with Yamaha Piaggero NP-32 which has 76 keys, pretty rare to have a 6-octave keyboard in this price range, it's crazy light, and it does come with built-in sounds, but the problem is that the keys are narrower, so it really takes getting used to (although I guess it may be suitable for younger piano students, I've recommended the smaller NP-12). They're also not cushioned so you hear mad knocking noise. I'm not sure if this Piano de Voyage is it, when it's more than some decent weighted keyboards, but at least it's now within my radar. The misalignments are really visible but I guess probably negligible as you said, I've played on worse acoustic pianos.
Looks like a great option as well! I used to really like Roland for a while as well. The thing for me is just the shape. If you’re ever getting on a plane, being able to break things down into a backpack is especially helpful.
Nice review. I enjoy your playing. Although this keyboard has great portability, I think $1000 plus is a bit much for essentially a semi weighted MIDI controller.
It's a semi-weighted MIDI controller that can fit into carry-on luggage. You're paying the premium for the "fit into carry-on luggage" part, not the "semi-weighted MIDI controller" part.
I understand- but there’s really nothing out there (that I’m aware of) that can comprare in terms of portability. The fact that it’s so portable, sturdy, velocity-sensitive, and overall good quality makes it totally worth it if you’re someone who benefits from the portability. It also costs less if you don’t need as many keys. Since it’s modular you can simply buy less keys if you don’t need all 88.
Good one... but try fitting an 88-key stage piano into your backpack, or suitcase. >$1,000 is actually cheap considering the convenience of eliminating the inconvenience that pianists are forced to live with, when bringing a full sized piano with them, when traveling.
You have a perfect question. I feel the same way and would love to take lessons from this great player both because of his knowledge and technique but also for his great attitude and personality. I believe he does give "video-type" lessons which I think I will look into.
In about 2005 I remember a product manager from M-Audio talking about this same idea. It's nice to see someone actually created one. Given the huge proliferation of cheap chinese folding pianos this concept definitely has some legs. This is a way better implementation than the Vax77 too although that keyboard had much more velocity and expression control (i think it was 1024 velocities and polyphonic aftertouch).
@Noah Kellman yeah I always wondered why M-Audio didn't pursue that idea. They were really open with weird experimental stuff back then when they had just gotten into the controller market. I think they were still Midiman then. In fact I was a beta tester for one of their products that looked like Buchla Thunder and I managed, somewhat slyly, to keep my beta unit of something that doesn't exist. They were later bought out so no one came after me lol.
Looks easy to assemble and sounds good with your software but semi weighted keys aren't the greatest. I wonder if they have plans to put out a weighted version option. Thanks for the demo.
I have wondered that myself. So far these are the best that I have found given the portability. If they put out a weighted version that’ll be incredible, but of course will also make it weigh significantly more I would imagine.
Hey there I noticed that you are using logic. Something you might want to play around with for velocity is the velocity processor midi plugin. It’s like a compressor but for midi notes. For me it has the most flexibility for calibrating velocity. Thanks for this video
This may be the wrong place to comment but you presented some nice changes starting with an F#, C# (LH) and I believe it was G#, A, B (RH). My comment would be try F#, E (LH) instead of F#, C#. I think the chord likes the 7th more than the 5th. OK send my Piano de Voyage to Sherman Oaks!!! 🙂 Very nice work by the way and congratulations on your informative web site and the decision to share your knowledge with others. I admire that. Ray Dewey LA
The way this keyboard needs to be put together seems very fiddly and makes me question its durability. That, added to the exorbitant price for a spring keyboard with clearly uneven keys, makes this a definitely do-not-buy. They need to do a lot of improvements before this looks worth the price.
I hear your concern. I actually took it on tour through Europe on multiple flights to multiple venues and so far so good. It is sturdy, held up great even despite the bag taking knocks. I was concerned about this as well but after using it I’m not anymore. With regards to the keybed, I hear you, but again it comes down to the unique level of portability. As far as spring action keyboards go this is a good one and I personally have no qualms with using it consistently.
@@NoahKellman Okay but it is really pricy. If they made this like 500 euros they will sell 20 times more sales. cause everyone will buy one even if they don't need it. Cause I will buy one like in a flash. Please email them and tell them what are saying. even if the make a 64 keys version for 500 euros would be cool. Thanks
Hi. I don't understand how the speakers work. I mean, if i want to travel it, do i also need to bring my own speakers? Or i just want to play at a park, will i be able to hear it? Why are you wearing headphones? How can we hear it?
@@Eeveetrix0908 hey there, this keyboard does not have speakers built-in. You would need to have a little portable amplifier to play in the park or have the sound come out of your computer or iPad. It does have a headphone jack which is how you can either listen on headphones or take the sound out to a speaker of some sort.
Great question. I definitely feel like I have to be careful during the process, but once they're hooked in, it feels surprisingly sturdy. Absolutely no problem on the stand. I've also misaligned a bunch of times and so far still fine, but I would definitely recommend just being careful with that part.
Noah, I have an older model of this unit and experience disconnections with the host DAW when the unit is put under pressure. Have you experienced this?
So If you take this keyboard on a gig, I would need to take along a laptop to make all the changes you suggested to get a more mellow sound? I'm sure it would midi connect to an external module to get a better sound?
pretty cool. i saw that keyboard but it's not weighted. then i saw this minetti custom keyboards - they got a p171 down to 4 octaves. so I'm gonna risk the 650 or whatever it is and try that. i can work wood, but hopefully won't have to do too much custom metal cutting and redrilling mounts. weeeee'll seeeee :) i want a piano i can bring in my van. and my weird midi sequencer will let me play any song in 2 octaves of keys. sooo we'll see.
9:28 That's not a "nit-picky, teeny tiny flaw" dude. That's a complete deal breaker. Velocity MUST be precisely consistent from key to key or the keyboard is a total fail. If you're a real pianist/keyboard player that kind of flaw in a keybed is totally unacceptable, period.
As a fellow pianist, I totally understand why you would feel that way, but again I think it just depends on your priorities. Once there is an option that meets this level of portability without any velocity imperfections at all, certainly that would be a better option. I also would imagine that they would be willing to fix this if someone discovered an imperfection like that, though I haven’t reached out about it yet. For me, still the portability is the key factor. It really depends on what type of gig, what type of music, etc. All of those questions to me are extremely important in determining the usefulness of a keyboard like this. It’s certainly not for everyone!
Good review, thanks a lot. I never heard about this. Years ago, there's been the foldable (with a fixed hinge) VAX77. Have you ever played on one of those? Looks like it has been discontinued.
Hey Noah, thanks for this review. Can you let us know if the wrapper sleeves we see at minute 5:45 come with the keyboard and if not where did you get those? Looks like something to have if you own this keyboard (mine is arriving in 2 months!).
I wish that there was a way to set velocity curves without a computer, or a web page. Surely velocity curves, several of them, should be directly selectable by some kind of command button plus a piano key press, say command button plus C2.
Interesting point Warren. That would definitely be a nice feature. Good news is my experience was that the keyboard actually stores your last velocity setting, so you just have to plug it in from time to time if you need to make a change.
Great solution for portability and versatility, however the price tag is way too high for just 100 sounds, no speakers, no mic input, no battery, and no adjustable touch sensitivity on the keyboard itself. The app doesn't cut it, who wants to bring a laptop camping for example, unless you can set it in advance. I'd rather go with a Vevor foldable keyboard for $100 and use a good ole Korg or Roland sound module for that, if I use amplification. What I am looking for is a keyboard with speakers that I can take anywhere, even camping to play, similar to a guitar. Ideal would be a keytar, but I haven't seen a keytar with speakers and the above specs, or have you?
Hi there, following your review I purchased one! May I ask What midi controller are you using? I’ve got an issue with mine whereby several keys are playing distorted notes! The ‘makers’ state I need to connect it through a midi and use 3rd party software. I’m not sure this will cure it but happy to try before I claim under the warranty.!!!!
Hey! In the vid I’m using the software Pianoteq. Keyscape is also great. In both you can change the velocity curve so it doesn’t distort by making it so it doesn’t go all the way up to 127. Also, you can try putting a limiter on your midi track. Hope that helps!
Thank you for the reply. I’m actually new to piano so enjoyed your video and was the reason I purchased one of these uses your code. Like I say I’m having issues with a couple of the keys and the suppliers state I need to use a midi controller and 3rd part software. So please excuse my noobie questions. Do you mean I should just connect the keyboard direct through a PC and use the software you mentioned OR do I have to purchase a ‘midi controller’ and connect the piano to that and then to the PC for the software?? So sorry about the questions
Hey Grant, depends- if you get it with the sound module you can produce sound without the computer, but if you get it without then you need a VST. Either way I’d personally recommend at VST! I haven’t tried the sound module though fyi.
Hey Jeffrey, just to clarify this only works with this specific keyboard (I believe). Not sure what the name is but if you purchase the keyboard it comes with the link to the chrome interface.
That’s actually my trio! Thanks for asking. You can find a video or two with these tracks on my channel. There is a playlist as well of our performances.
Hey there great video and review by the way. I own a Korg Triton Le 76 Key Workstation. I know pretty old. I wanted to know if the "Piano Tech" software will help to give the Korg a better sound quality overall. It's very sharp and sounds annoying to play at times. The Piano choices on it aren't the best of course. Please let me know what you think. Thanks.
If you’re talking about Pianoteq, then yes. Definitely. It’s been one of the best purchases I’ve ever made. Now, there are people who like a sampled piano sound better than a modeled piano. So that’s a preference thing. But for me personally, it’s amazing.
this is INCREDIBLE, i've been putting together a setup i can transport by bike, and now i'm trying to figure out how to get something light with semi-weighted keys. I have a nice light amp and a zynthian for pianoteq (love zynthian-- check it out if you haven't), so swapping out the midi controller is easy. I got a Roland A-49 to start with and test the concept, but the keys obviously leave a lot to be desired (though it does weigh like 5 lbs). This all fits in a padded guitar case with backpack straps. Will be super curious to hear how this holds up over time, it sounds like it's a good investment so far! I would love to know if you have any other favorite semi-weighted and light-weighing midi controllers with decent keys-- what else would you recommend, if not this?
Hey Ryan, great question. I actually dig the launch key series, but those are synth style keys. My absolute favorite travel-size production keyboard though is the Native Instruments M32. Just awesome for its size.
Thanks for the heads up on the Zynthian. I’ve been playing around with the idea of running Pianoteq on an Odroid running Linux for a similar setup. I love the fact that it’s open source too.
Thank you Noah for sharing your gift and knowledge on the 'Voyage' keyboard... I need a practice keybd approx 30" for Laptop while at home or travelling...Must haves: sturdy with full sz keys.. built-in small speakers, for audio w/o requiring an amp; Battery option as well as plug-in for charging up. Your demo PROVES the quality of Voyages' Sound! NOTHING out there in 37 key size that's NOT Midi - Oh, too much auto-digital-sound for this musician-singer!
After hearing your INCREDIBLE demo on the Piano deVoyage I am considering 2 or 3 of their "modules" - they would be perfect if small speakers were built-in, as well as (a lithium?) Battery for "simple On-off" chord practice, laptop convenience at home. Earphones too, needed while travelling. Since the 'Voyage' modules are so backordered, I'm hoping their designers can incorporate these REAL practice needs w/o sacrificing performance-technical hookups needed too. MERCI, BLESSINGS, NOAH !!
I was hoping for a direct comparison of the Carry On piano (the $99 one right?), if you have that, how would you say that compares in playability and portability?
Hey Luke, yeah I actually have a Carry On Piano as well which I tried first. Carry On is much smaller, folds into a pretty tiny space, but in my opinion, cannot be used for any professional situation of any kind. It has no velocity sensitivity, so all notes are the same exact volume. It needs to be laid on a completely flat surface. The keys feel pretty rough, difficult to play well at all. There's really no comparison between these two in my book.
I purchased the Roland FP-30x about 7 months ago and could not be happier! It has the sound and feel of a high-quality acoustic piano like the one I owned years ago. I recommend it for anyone looking for an awesome keyboard in the $800-$900 range.
@@mrsavant6214 Yeah, it's really great! Agreed that it's one of my favorite digital piano keybeds that I've ever played, if not my favorite. So for the price, it's really amazing.
I like them both. But I agree that Casio has been doing a great job lately. My favorite action is in the higher end Kawai keyboards (VPC, ES920). Roland comes a close second with the RD-2000 and FP-90. Both Kawai and Roland have excellent (essentially non-portable) upright digital pianos. And Yamaha does too with the NU1X. My first keyboard was a Fatar way back in the dark ages of 1992. We have come so far since then. I feel like we’re in a golden age of keyboard design. And things are only getting better. I’m definitely going to get the Piano de Voyage once they come out with the weighted version.
@@rfichokeofdestiny thanks for sharing alll this valuable info. I’ve been gigging with my Casio px-s1100 and still liking a lot. Critique: I’d like it better if had actual buttons for changing setting and patches/sounds.
Really neat. This would be worth having for me if it had standard MIDI I/O connectors. I should not have to have a computer host to play thru my MIDI rack.
@@NoahKellman I have considered adding a portable MIDI/USB host to my rig. More and more new keyboards apparently don't include standard MIDI connectors.
Yes, but Casio have some good alternatives with weighted keybed at around10 kg and way under this price.Casio CDP is 280 $ new, one can get on Ebay for 150$.So weighted and cheaper ....guess we have an answer. From my point of view. Weighted is big difference , even if not a''perfect'' keybed.
Right but the whole point of this keyboard is that it is extremely portable. You can literally fit it into a backpack. Totally understand if you absolutely need to have a weighted keyboard then of course it makes sense to go with another option, but there are many scenarios in which it makes sense to sacrifice weighted keys for portability.
Adrian... Casio is stuck on 88-note pianos. It should make some shorter (but fully weighted) keyboards. 73, 61, 25. Drilling or warming up even one hand at a time in your hotel before a big concert? It would be so useful! Yamaha, Korg, Roland, Kurzweil and Studiologic have all made weighted or semi-weighted stage pianos which have about 73 notes. It's time that an innovator like Casio takes the lead and produces even smaller performance-worthy instruments, retaining a convincing piano tone and action.
Hello Mr. Kellman, This was a great Review on this great invention! I just had a question about the durability if there was big chords or alot of power being but to the piano. Would it be able to withstand with the stand being under it like a regular 88 key keyboard? Thank you, God bless you.
Hey Jonathan, great question. Yes, in my experience it would. I have used it now on multiple gigs on top of your typical X stand. That's one of things that works great for me personally- the toughness of the metal clasps seems pretty structurally sound given its portability.
@@NoahKellman Ok that is great to hear is there any way I can get it for a cheaper price than what's posted on the website if possible? I think it is over 1000 euros. Thank you so much Mr. Kellman (if I can call you that). God bless you!
@@MrJon1 Hey Jonathan, you can use the discount code NOAHKPIANO which should help! Another option is you could get just 3 modules instead of 4, something like that depending on how many keys you need.
Hi, Noah! and thank you so much for your honest review. I am interested in this piano to busk and travel but I am not pretty sure. Do you think It has better sound quality than other folding pianos (without using the MIDI)? Could I connect my amp and have enough volume to play in the streets? Thanks for answering (:
Hey! So honestly I haven’t used the built-in sounds, so I’m not 100% sure there. It is general midi sounds so they’re probably okay but not great. I prefer to use the keyboard as midi to connect it to a mobile device or laptop, then send the sound to an amp, cause then you can get incredible sound, and lots of volume from your amp!
@@NoahKellman So I think that using the voyage as a MIDI controller would be my best option... I will consider it hehe Thank you so much for answering, Noah :)!
You had me until "MIDI Keyboard". I do not have a laptop and I'm looking for something portable that I can play outdoors by either just plugging to an amp, or even with internal built speakers. Looks amazing, though. But not what I'm looking for at the moment.
Hey Mark, I don't believe it does have them built in. What you would do is pickup the little sound module along with the keyboard (in their store at checkout), then I think it would work with the UE Boom as long as the Boom has an actual headphone cable jack. You could take the headphone output from the Piano de Voyage sound module and connect to the Boom.
I recommend Anker Soundcore motion plus which boasts a wider 20hz to 20KHz sound range, 30W RMS, IPX7 rating, a good stereo effect soundstage and equaliser app. I have them for my Piano de Voyage and they sound decent enough, way better than JBL Charge 3/4 (30W), Marshall Kilburn (30W) or Marshall Stockwell II (18W). Having aux connection is an absolute must to avoid bluetooth lag.
Hey Benjamin, if you get the extra sound module at check out, there is a headphone output, but you would have to convert it into something that made sense for an amp. Might work with just a simple cable converter but not sure how that would work out in terms of volume like if it would be better to send through an interface or PA of something. Either way, it does require some kind of USB plug-in for power.
It’s a bit like organ keys- I would relate it to semi-weighted keys. It feels somewhat similar to an organ key in my opinion. I actually dig the feel- in many cases, the black keys are frustrating to play, but these play nicely.
It’s not waited, but the semi weighted keys have a really nice action in my opinion. Velocity sensitivity is decent and there’s a chrome app for changing it to your liking.
Thanks for the groovy review. A little more clarification on inputs and outputs would have been nice. You're right: Piano de Voyage is an original and important product. I guess the V3 Grand Piano module can be hooked up to this via USB, or by MIDI Legacy if the Piano de Voyage has that - but I doubt it does. This instrument is really a controller, and as such, I feel that it should include Legacy out and soundbank controls, to get the most out of ad-on hardware and software. It should also have a built-in velocity control. A switch with say 5 positions would make a huge difference. I guess they are still testing the market. I'll be watching this space for Piano de Voyage II. It's ironic that such an exciting product has been made in the very country I want to move to eventually. It will certainly be a piano voyage when I move my digital pianos there. I really like that this instrument can be played without connecting all the segments. 88 notes can be too big on some desks, and even at some gigs. I'm taking a 61-note keyboard on holiday this summer - yes to France. It's a shame about the piano sound quality and the sprung action on my 61-note keyboard, but I'll be in a motorhome. Don't want a long board. The Piano de Voyage plus any compatible sound module could all have worked well for me. Well maybe next year!
For a thousand Euros I would rather buy an M-Audio hammer action or a real digital piano, doesn’t solve the portability problem for an 88 key piano but I’m reasonably certain very few people would want to run around with 88 keys in their backpack more like 25 or 33.
I think it really depends on your needs. For example, if you can just pop a keyboard into your car and then roll up to the gig right by the stage, obviously bring your best weighted keyboard. But for anything that requires carrying, I personally think a solution like this is great. I’ve already used it a ton and prefer to sacrifice the weighted keys for the portability in many cases. You just have to think about what your own situation is and what makes sense, but I think a lot of people would find this solution worth it.
Definitely. That conversation has been had many many times on the Pianoteq forums. I’m not entirely sure why they’re holding back. One theory is that the pricing and cross-platform restrictions of the Apple App Store make it a doomed proposition. I haven’t looked at the forums lately though.
I,m waiting for a 49 key piano.portability is everything when you gig four times a week.I,m using irig 37 which I take on the bus and a Korg triton 49 controller with built in sounds
Nice sounds like a good rig. The cool thing about this one is that you don’t have to use all 88 keys, you can just use two or three pieces so you can actually have different sized keyboards depending on what you need. Just throw a couple pieces in your backpack. Not sure if I made that clear in the vid!
@@NoahKellman Yes I have a midi 5din converter and connect a GEM RPX module.with my irig pro 37.Got fed up with going to venues and every one and his wife play guitars .I,m old and can,t do the heavy lifting anymore for keyboards.The piano voyage could be a game changer.love yr vids
@@NoahKellman why not do paypal donations or patreon? I have learn,t a lot from you.I have listened to all the jazz masters a lot but always seem to come back to Earl Hines my fav.His “earl hines 1975 documentary ‘ on youtube is great and said to be the best jazz piano documentary ever made.Reccomended
@@Jack-fs2im thank you so much Jack. I usually just ask folks to support me by looking into my courses and PDFs. I will keep that idea in mind though. I appreciate it.
You can find this keyboard at pianodevoyage.com . Use code NOAHKPIANO for an exclusive discount for channel subscribers, and I'll also get a small commission which I greatly appreciate! 😊🙏 **Note I absolutely would not have reached out to Ryme Music about this code if I did not fully believe in the quality of this product. I will always keep my reviews 100% honest.
Do you have an updated code?
dude you are selling this too hard. they keybed is really bad. just be honest.
Got a Piano de Voyage. Great instrument. Some of the features changed. The latch at the back to lock 2 pieces together now replaced by 2 screws. The carrying pouch for each module is now a rectangular case with a zipper.
Portable keyboard definitely. Some little things that you find in a full-size keyboard including Rec (record) button, built-in metronome, music stand.
The sound effects are great. But changing to a specific sound effect like guitar or trumpet you need to scroll with the up / down button until you find it. Using the Piano de Voyage in default Piano you just turn it on. The odd time you want a different sound, finding it without a display screen is a bit of hassle.
I have just spent a couple of weeks with my Model 'A' and I have to say the spring weighting improves quickly with continued playing. It is now quite responsive and doesn't 'fight' key hits. Basically it takes a couple of hours to break it in. Still not as good as fully weighted keys, but much more enjoyable to play than right out of the box.
That’s great to hear! Yeah I feel mine has broken in a bit too, though I was also okay with the keys right out of the box too!
I am a US based owner of the 'model 'A' (in the video). I have the full 88 with sound card. Here are my thoughts. (1) durability: by no means flimsy. The hinge/latch system works well and is robust. The keyboard is a true instrument and not a toy. (2) value: if you need 88 keys and portability this is the best option for you. Its not a Kurzy but it does the job, well. (3) Key weighting: not my fave. Spring weighted. Your taste may differ. (4) Build: excellent mechanically and electrically (5) sound card: pretty basic. adequate for most gigs or portable use. Of course, it is MIDI so you can use outside boxes for your (MIDI driven)sounds,(6): Shlepping: nothing beats it. It is LIGHT and goes in the overhead as carry on on a plane.(7) Buyer's interaction: Olivier is a straight shooter and you should not hesitate because of the wait time, or shipment from FRANCE. (8) Overall rating: An A- /B+ because of the rudimentary sound card and spring weighting of keys. Both easily overshadowed by the gigs the piano enables. Worth the price? Yes.
Hi, chip co! How is the sound quality (without using MIDI)? I would like to buy it to travel and busk with it... Would your recommend it? Thanks a lot! :)
@@Tangassi Sound card--The piano is passable to good but it aint no Kurzweil. The B3 setting is poor. Most of the sounds are sound effects and drums, good marimba, vibes. You cant jump easily from one sound to the next as this is controlled by two buttons with no display. I wouldnt busk IF you are depending on the sound card to do more than piano. I have a Yamaha F-30, which looks like a toy, but has awesome sounds, without midi. IF sounds were the deciding factor, I would take the F-30, with its tiny keyboard. BUT IF you can plug the PDV as a midi controller for an outside midi box, you have the best of both sounds and 88 key portability.
@@chipco5150 I totally understand you. I have a yamaha too and I know how good the sound is. It is a shame the voyage's sound card is not as good as the Yamaha's one. I will consider the midi controller function... I thought that It would be cumbersome but I am sure that sound quality is fundamental for my busking plans. Thank you so much for answering :)
Love your playing!
Great video thanks! I travel a lot with a 61 keys and during my last trip it almost didn’t make it in the cabin…Seems like a great alternative despite the slightly high cost…no more stress at check in 👍
That’s how I felt exactly getting on a plane with it 😊 so easy
Zero stress in transportation.
Amazing video, thank you. I noticed some people in the comments were asking about using a speaker with it. I have no experience with the Piano De Voyage yet, but in case it helps anyone: if it can be used as a midi controller and can be connected to iPad or computer, with sound coming out of the iPad or computer, you don’t need any additional separate speaker for solo practice, but if you wanted to play for a small group of people, you could probably hook up a portable iPad or computer speaker so that the sound of the iPad or computer is amplified. In that case, you wouldn’t need the keyboard itself to have a speaker or sound.
Thanks for the tips, Pamela!
@@NoahKellman 🙏
If you get the sound card, you can hook an amp with the headphone jack.
How do you make the sound come out of the computer? I can only get it to work using the headphone jack.
@@PaperPlateParody you can change the settings on your computer / in your DAW. For example, if you use GarageBand or Logic Pro, change audio input / output settings. Change output settings to computer speakers instead of headphones.
The only other item I know of, like this, is the Pocket Piano, that Jordan Rudess did a video on. However, the Pocket Piano has 87 keys, not 88. The pictures on their site do not show the keys at a good angle. It seems they do not have the depth of travel that this piano has.
I have bought the Pocket Piano and the keyboard has a 4/5 mm depth making it very annoying to play. I wouldn't recommend it
Noah, simply put…you’re awesome! Thanks for this.
I really love the vibe of this vid, pretty chill and informative !
Thanks really glad you liked it 🙏
I used to have a Yamaha CP-30 that was 100 pounds. That is very cool, I am retired and no longer gig. I know someone who could use it. Good video.
Thanks, Dary! Appreciate it 🙏
Hee hee i know exactly what you put up eith. My first digital piano i gigged with was a Yamaha CP30. Felt ok to play but sounded terrible. And was humungous and heavy.
@@russellhooke9791 - One of my bandmates showed me how to adjust the knobs to get a decent sound out of it. It was a boat anchor.
Can you do a comparison of the piano de voyage versus the pocket piano?
This keyboard looks and sounds great! I'll definitely look into getting one of these
Sounds great Isaac let me know if you have any questions. I’ve already taken it on a trip through a lot of travel so I’ve gotten a good handle on its advantages and disadvantages. Mostly advantages so far :p
Finally someone did it, an usable piano in chunks, it was about time! Great video, analysis and exaustive answers, thank you! 🙏
Glad you enjoyed it Pablo!
Awesome review video, and a great keyboard find!
Thanks Marcus! Probably came out good cause I’m so excited about this thing 🤣
@@NoahKellman It's because you're good at making videos!
I also have a Mainstage rig, for my main keyboard I've settled with Yamaha Piaggero NP-32 which has 76 keys, pretty rare to have a 6-octave keyboard in this price range, it's crazy light, and it does come with built-in sounds, but the problem is that the keys are narrower, so it really takes getting used to (although I guess it may be suitable for younger piano students, I've recommended the smaller NP-12). They're also not cushioned so you hear mad knocking noise. I'm not sure if this Piano de Voyage is it, when it's more than some decent weighted keyboards, but at least it's now within my radar. The misalignments are really visible but I guess probably negligible as you said, I've played on worse acoustic pianos.
Looks like a great option as well! I used to really like Roland for a while as well. The thing for me is just the shape. If you’re ever getting on a plane, being able to break things down into a backpack is especially helpful.
Love your channel Noah !
Thanks, Rob! Much appreciated
Nice review. I enjoy your playing. Although this keyboard has great portability, I think $1000 plus is a bit much for essentially a semi weighted MIDI controller.
It's a semi-weighted MIDI controller that can fit into carry-on luggage. You're paying the premium for the "fit into carry-on luggage" part, not the "semi-weighted MIDI controller" part.
I understand- but there’s really nothing out there (that I’m aware of) that can comprare in terms of portability. The fact that it’s so portable, sturdy, velocity-sensitive, and overall good quality makes it totally worth it if you’re someone who benefits from the portability. It also costs less if you don’t need as many keys. Since it’s modular you can simply buy less keys if you don’t need all 88.
Oh and btw if you use that discount code pinned above it’s a nice chunk cheaper 😊
Good one... but try fitting an 88-key stage piano into your backpack, or suitcase. >$1,000 is actually cheap considering the convenience of eliminating the inconvenience that pianists are forced to live with, when bringing a full sized piano with them, when traveling.
@@NoahKellman Just curious as to what you use to amplify this keyboard when you are traveling.
Thanks for the Bill Evans piano lesson.
Great info thanks for sharing!
Sure thing!
I love your chords and jazz voicings …. Is there any tuition books or hints and tips that will take me in the right direction?
Many thanks in advanced
You have a perfect question. I feel the same way and would love to take lessons from this great player both because of his knowledge and technique but also for his great attitude and personality. I believe he does give "video-type" lessons which I think I will look into.
In about 2005 I remember a product manager from M-Audio talking about this same idea. It's nice to see someone actually created one. Given the huge proliferation of cheap chinese folding pianos this concept definitely has some legs. This is a way better implementation than the Vax77 too although that keyboard had much more velocity and expression control (i think it was 1024 velocities and polyphonic aftertouch).
Hey Steve, glad you found it. Yeah I’ve found it to be somewhat life-changing actually. Can’t wait to check out the weighted one they’re working on.
@Noah Kellman yeah I always wondered why M-Audio didn't pursue that idea. They were really open with weird experimental stuff back then when they had just gotten into the controller market. I think they were still Midiman then. In fact I was a beta tester for one of their products that looked like Buchla Thunder and I managed, somewhat slyly, to keep my beta unit of something that doesn't exist. They were later bought out so no one came after me lol.
@@NoahKellman Thanks so much for your helpful review. Do you know if the Model B with compact hammer action will have fully weighted keys?
Looks easy to assemble and sounds good with your software but semi weighted keys aren't the greatest. I wonder if they have plans to put out a weighted version option. Thanks for the demo.
I have wondered that myself. So far these are the best that I have found given the portability. If they put out a weighted version that’ll be incredible, but of course will also make it weigh significantly more I would imagine.
@@NoahKellman I wrote to them and they said that they do have plans to put out a weighted version but it won't be until next year.
Id probably buy one once they make a weighted version that still makes the airline qualification for a carry on which i think is 22 lbs
The company is planning on releasing one weighted keys in 2024
Hey there I noticed that you are using logic. Something you might want to play around with for velocity is the velocity processor midi plugin. It’s like a compressor but for midi notes. For me it has the most flexibility for calibrating velocity. Thanks for this video
Very cool, thank you for this tip! I didn't know about that plugin.
This is good opportunity for me since I dreamed.. ... Now this comes true 🙏👌Thanks to Noah Kellmman's présentation.
No problem happy to help!
Where and how I can order a PIANO DE VOYAGE? Please someone tell me
This may be the wrong place to comment but you presented some nice changes starting with an F#, C# (LH) and I believe it was G#, A, B (RH). My comment would be try F#, E (LH) instead of F#, C#. I think the chord likes the 7th more than the 5th. OK send my Piano de Voyage to Sherman Oaks!!! 🙂 Very nice work by the way and congratulations on your informative web site and the decision to share your knowledge with others. I admire that. Ray Dewey LA
Great review!
What is the song at 9:16, 10:15, 10:30, 10:40? It's wonderful!
Does it come with foot pedals or do you have to get them separately?
that was cool, you can bring an entire 88key piano while traveling without having to break a spine.
Exactly.
The way this keyboard needs to be put together seems very fiddly and makes me question its durability. That, added to the exorbitant price for a spring keyboard with clearly uneven keys, makes this a definitely do-not-buy. They need to do a lot of improvements before this looks worth the price.
I hear your concern. I actually took it on tour through Europe on multiple flights to multiple venues and so far so good. It is sturdy, held up great even despite the bag taking knocks. I was concerned about this as well but after using it I’m not anymore.
With regards to the keybed, I hear you, but again it comes down to the unique level of portability. As far as spring action keyboards go this is a good one and I personally have no qualms with using it consistently.
@@NoahKellman Okay but it is really pricy. If they made this like 500 euros they will sell 20 times more sales. cause everyone will buy one even if they don't need it. Cause I will buy one like in a flash. Please email them and tell them what are saying. even if the make a 64 keys version for 500 euros would be cool. Thanks
Absolutly agree
@@makemoneyjourney7864 you can actually get it cheaper if you don’t need all 88 keys. Happy to pass along the feedback to them though!
I'd do it on a table.
Hi. I don't understand how the speakers work. I mean, if i want to travel it, do i also need to bring my own speakers? Or i just want to play at a park, will i be able to hear it? Why are you wearing headphones? How can we hear it?
@@Eeveetrix0908 hey there, this keyboard does not have speakers built-in. You would need to have a little portable amplifier to play in the park or have the sound come out of your computer or iPad. It does have a headphone jack which is how you can either listen on headphones or take the sound out to a speaker of some sort.
At 0:24 you say you have a "sixty four key board", but then the review is for an 88 key board? Are there 2 different models?
it is modular, so you can buy 2, 3 or all 4 modules
The weak link is the fitting together.. how robust are those little bits that have to align perfectly? Just asking.
Great question. I definitely feel like I have to be careful during the process, but once they're hooked in, it feels surprisingly sturdy. Absolutely no problem on the stand. I've also misaligned a bunch of times and so far still fine, but I would definitely recommend just being careful with that part.
What's the other carry-on piano that you mention in this video? Thanks very much for the review
Is there a Bluetooth midi connection?
I have a casio cdps350 and have just bought a ferrofish b4000+.Incredible but you need a midi usb host box. The ferrofish has drawbar.Amazing.
I am playing the ferrofish right now! :-) Yep. the PdV does a great job as a B3 controller.
Noah, I have an older model of this unit and experience disconnections with the host DAW when the unit is put under pressure. Have you experienced this?
So If you take this keyboard on a gig, I would need to take along a laptop to make all the changes you suggested to get a more mellow sound? I'm sure it would midi connect to an external module to get a
better sound?
pretty cool. i saw that keyboard but it's not weighted. then i saw this minetti custom keyboards - they got a p171 down to 4 octaves. so I'm gonna risk the 650 or whatever it is and try that. i can work wood, but hopefully won't have to do too much custom metal cutting and redrilling mounts. weeeee'll seeeee :) i want a piano i can bring in my van. and my weird midi sequencer will let me play any song in 2 octaves of keys. sooo we'll see.
9:28 That's not a "nit-picky, teeny tiny flaw" dude. That's a complete deal breaker. Velocity MUST be precisely consistent from key to key or the keyboard is a total fail. If you're a real pianist/keyboard player that kind of flaw in a keybed is totally unacceptable, period.
As a fellow pianist, I totally understand why you would feel that way, but again I think it just depends on your priorities. Once there is an option that meets this level of portability without any velocity imperfections at all, certainly that would be a better option. I also would imagine that they would be willing to fix this if someone discovered an imperfection like that, though I haven’t reached out about it yet. For me, still the portability is the key factor. It really depends on what type of gig, what type of music, etc. All of those questions to me are extremely important in determining the usefulness of a keyboard like this. It’s certainly not for everyone!
what is semi weighted sensitive?
I will buy one because of you!
Wow this is amazing. I need something that lands at the midway point between Piano de Voyage and the Carry On Piano, for quality and price 😂
Good review, thanks a lot. I never heard about this. Years ago, there's been the foldable (with a fixed hinge) VAX77. Have you ever played on one of those? Looks like it has been discontinued.
No actually I’ve never used one of those! Looks interesting as I check it out. Still seems a bit bulky to me though.
Hi there… do you have any recordings of you playing any baroque/classical/romantic period pieces?
Hey Noah, thanks for this review. Can you let us know if the wrapper sleeves we see at minute 5:45 come with the keyboard and if not where did you get those? Looks like something to have if you own this keyboard (mine is arriving in 2 months!).
Hey Nuno, congrats!! Yes, the wrapper sleeves came with it, so I believe yours should too.
@@NoahKellman Yes, the cloth sleeves come with it.
Man really helpful review
Thanks Bruce glad it was helpful
I wish that there was a way to set velocity curves without a computer, or a web page. Surely velocity curves, several of them, should be directly selectable by some kind of command button plus a piano key press, say command button plus C2.
Interesting point Warren. That would definitely be a nice feature. Good news is my experience was that the keyboard actually stores your last velocity setting, so you just have to plug it in from time to time if you need to make a change.
@@NoahKellman its a super cool keyboard.
what do you think about the MAGICON?
Thanks for the honest and informative demonstration. I’m definitely interested. Would it work as a midi controller with my Korg Kronos?
Bryan
Hey Bryan, not entirely sure. I do not believe it has midi in or out, just midi through USB. Does your Kronos accept Midi via USB?
Is it rigid enough to use a regular keyboard stand? The others I tried needed a board or something under it or it felt like it would buckle.
My experience was that yes, it is rigid enough. I’ve used it on many different stands without issue.
A year later, it is almost $1400 for the 88 key version. I hope they fixed the issues with the alignment and weak keys for that much money...
As a matter of fact they did! I’ll have a new video about the updates coming out any day now
@NoahKellman awesome.
Has Nord stopped making the electro model...?
And where can we find this keyboard?
Great question-- pianodevoyage.com
Great solution for portability and versatility, however the price tag is way too high for just 100 sounds, no speakers, no mic input, no battery, and no adjustable touch sensitivity on the keyboard itself. The app doesn't cut it, who wants to bring a laptop camping for example, unless you can set it in advance. I'd rather go with a Vevor foldable keyboard for $100 and use a good ole Korg or Roland sound module for that, if I use amplification. What I am looking for is a keyboard with speakers that I can take anywhere, even camping to play, similar to a guitar. Ideal would be a keytar, but I haven't seen a keytar with speakers and the above specs, or have you?
Thank you Noah!
Sure thing!
Hi there, following your review I purchased one! May I ask What midi controller are you using?
I’ve got an issue with mine whereby several keys are playing distorted notes! The ‘makers’ state I need to connect it through a midi and use 3rd party software. I’m not sure this will cure it but happy to try before I claim under the warranty.!!!!
Hey! In the vid I’m using the software Pianoteq. Keyscape is also great. In both you can change the velocity curve so it doesn’t distort by making it so it doesn’t go all the way up to 127. Also, you can try putting a limiter on your midi track. Hope that helps!
Thank you for the reply.
I’m actually new to piano so enjoyed your video and was the reason I purchased one of these uses your code.
Like I say I’m having issues with a couple of the keys and the suppliers state I need to use a midi controller and 3rd part software. So please excuse my noobie questions. Do you mean I should just connect the keyboard direct through a PC and use the software you mentioned OR do I have to purchase a ‘midi controller’ and connect the piano to that and then to the PC for the software?? So sorry about the questions
@@r1flyguymidi controller can be the software alone, you shouldn't have to buy any hardware
Have the og model. Love it
Amazing how long have you been using it?
@@NoahKellman bout two years. My version has no buttons or knobs tho. Still dope. Better than any of the other portable solutions
@@FlyingLotus agreed!
Does it require a VST on a MacBook to produce sound? Or just a simple connection via a cable? Thank you
Hey Grant, depends- if you get it with the sound module you can produce sound without the computer, but if you get it without then you need a VST. Either way I’d personally recommend at VST! I haven’t tried the sound module though fyi.
Thank you.
@@NoahKellman Just used your code to order a full set... Hope it will work well for me, thank you for the discount and review.
@@grantchan891 of course, Grant! Enjoy it!!
I think for the price point the Roland Go 88 Key is a better choice. It does not fold, but gives more for the money and is only 15 LBS.
What is the specific name of the chrome extension that adjust the sound?
Hey Jeffrey, just to clarify this only works with this specific keyboard (I believe). Not sure what the name is but if you purchase the keyboard it comes with the link to the chrome interface.
Noah, I love your content. What is that piano trio you play in the background in the beginning of your videos?
That’s actually my trio! Thanks for asking. You can find a video or two with these tracks on my channel. There is a playlist as well of our performances.
Hey there great video and review by the way.
I own a Korg Triton Le 76 Key Workstation. I know pretty old.
I wanted to know if the "Piano Tech" software will help to give the Korg a better sound quality overall. It's very sharp and sounds annoying to play at times. The Piano choices on it aren't the best of course.
Please let me know what you think. Thanks.
If you’re talking about Pianoteq, then yes. Definitely. It’s been one of the best purchases I’ve ever made. Now, there are people who like a sampled piano sound better than a modeled piano. So that’s a preference thing. But for me personally, it’s amazing.
this is INCREDIBLE, i've been putting together a setup i can transport by bike, and now i'm trying to figure out how to get something light with semi-weighted keys. I have a nice light amp and a zynthian for pianoteq (love zynthian-- check it out if you haven't), so swapping out the midi controller is easy. I got a Roland A-49 to start with and test the concept, but the keys obviously leave a lot to be desired (though it does weigh like 5 lbs). This all fits in a padded guitar case with backpack straps. Will be super curious to hear how this holds up over time, it sounds like it's a good investment so far!
I would love to know if you have any other favorite semi-weighted and light-weighing midi controllers with decent keys-- what else would you recommend, if not this?
Hey Ryan, great question. I actually dig the launch key series, but those are synth style keys. My absolute favorite travel-size production keyboard though is the Native Instruments M32. Just awesome for its size.
Thanks for the heads up on the Zynthian. I’ve been playing around with the idea of running Pianoteq on an Odroid running Linux for a similar setup. I love the fact that it’s open source too.
Thank you Noah for sharing your gift and knowledge on the 'Voyage' keyboard... I need a practice keybd approx 30" for
Laptop while at home or travelling...Must haves: sturdy with full sz keys.. built-in small speakers, for audio w/o requiring an amp; Battery option as well as plug-in for charging up. Your demo PROVES the quality of Voyages' Sound! NOTHING out there in 37 key size that's
NOT Midi - Oh, too much auto-digital-sound for this musician-singer!
After hearing your INCREDIBLE demo on the Piano deVoyage
I am considering 2 or 3 of their "modules" - they would be perfect if small speakers were built-in, as well as (a lithium?) Battery for "simple On-off" chord practice, laptop convenience at home. Earphones too, needed while travelling. Since the 'Voyage' modules are so backordered, I'm hoping their designers can incorporate these REAL practice needs w/o sacrificing performance-technical hookups needed too. MERCI,
BLESSINGS, NOAH !!
I was hoping for a direct comparison of the Carry On piano (the $99 one right?), if you have that, how would you say that compares in playability and portability?
Hey Luke, yeah I actually have a Carry On Piano as well which I tried first. Carry On is much smaller, folds into a pretty tiny space, but in my opinion, cannot be used for any professional situation of any kind. It has no velocity sensitivity, so all notes are the same exact volume. It needs to be laid on a completely flat surface. The keys feel pretty rough, difficult to play well at all. There's really no comparison between these two in my book.
@@NoahKellman none at all, thanks!!
are you going to review the new hammer action keyboard from this company?
Yes most definitely!
I was considering buying this fp30x from roland but recently I just found out about the casio privia px-s1100. It feels so much nicer than the roland!
Oh cool will have to check it out! I really love the way the Roland feels though, but of course touch is subjective
I purchased the Roland FP-30x about 7 months ago and could not be happier! It has the sound and feel of a high-quality acoustic piano like the one I owned years ago. I recommend it for anyone looking for an awesome keyboard in the $800-$900 range.
@@mrsavant6214 Yeah, it's really great! Agreed that it's one of my favorite digital piano keybeds that I've ever played, if not my favorite. So for the price, it's really amazing.
I like them both. But I agree that Casio has been doing a great job lately. My favorite action is in the higher end Kawai keyboards (VPC, ES920). Roland comes a close second with the RD-2000 and FP-90. Both Kawai and Roland have excellent (essentially non-portable) upright digital pianos. And Yamaha does too with the NU1X.
My first keyboard was a Fatar way back in the dark ages of 1992. We have come so far since then. I feel like we’re in a golden age of keyboard design. And things are only getting better. I’m definitely going to get the Piano de Voyage once they come out with the weighted version.
@@rfichokeofdestiny thanks for sharing alll this valuable info. I’ve been gigging with my Casio px-s1100 and still liking a lot. Critique: I’d like it better if had actual buttons for changing setting and patches/sounds.
Really neat. This would be worth having for me if it had standard MIDI I/O connectors. I should not have to have a computer host to play thru my MIDI rack.
Agreed that would be a great feature to add!
@@NoahKellman I have considered adding a portable MIDI/USB host to my rig. More and more new keyboards apparently don't include standard MIDI connectors.
Hi Noah which amp do you use ? Thank you
Yes, but Casio have some good alternatives with weighted keybed at around10 kg and way under this price.Casio CDP is 280 $ new, one can get on Ebay for 150$.So weighted and cheaper ....guess we have an answer. From my point of view. Weighted is big difference , even if not a''perfect'' keybed.
Right but the whole point of this keyboard is that it is extremely portable. You can literally fit it into a backpack. Totally understand if you absolutely need to have a weighted keyboard then of course it makes sense to go with another option, but there are many scenarios in which it makes sense to sacrifice weighted keys for portability.
Adrian... Casio is stuck on 88-note pianos. It should make some shorter (but fully weighted) keyboards. 73, 61, 25. Drilling or warming up even one hand at a time in your hotel before a big concert? It would be so useful!
Yamaha, Korg, Roland, Kurzweil and Studiologic have all made weighted or semi-weighted stage pianos which have about 73 notes. It's time that an innovator like Casio takes the lead and produces even smaller performance-worthy instruments, retaining a convincing piano tone and action.
Hello Mr. Kellman, This was a great Review on this great invention! I just had a question about the durability if there was big chords or alot of power being but to the piano. Would it be able to withstand with the stand being under it like a regular 88 key keyboard? Thank you, God bless you.
Hey Jonathan, great question. Yes, in my experience it would. I have used it now on multiple gigs on top of your typical X stand. That's one of things that works great for me personally- the toughness of the metal clasps seems pretty structurally sound given its portability.
@@NoahKellman Ok that is great to hear is there any way I can get it for a cheaper price than what's posted on the website if possible? I think it is over 1000 euros. Thank you so much Mr. Kellman (if I can call you that). God bless you!
@@MrJon1 Hey Jonathan, you can use the discount code NOAHKPIANO which should help! Another option is you could get just 3 modules instead of 4, something like that depending on how many keys you need.
This is a rigid keyboard. Jerry Lee Lewis could use it.
Hi, Noah! and thank you so much for your honest review. I am interested in this piano to busk and travel but I am not pretty sure. Do you think It has better sound quality than other folding pianos (without using the MIDI)? Could I connect my amp and have enough volume to play in the streets? Thanks for answering (:
Hey! So honestly I haven’t used the built-in sounds, so I’m not 100% sure there. It is general midi sounds so they’re probably okay but not great. I prefer to use the keyboard as midi to connect it to a mobile device or laptop, then send the sound to an amp, cause then you can get incredible sound, and lots of volume from your amp!
@@NoahKellman So I think that using the voyage as a MIDI controller would be my best option... I will consider it hehe Thank you so much for answering, Noah :)!
You had me until "MIDI Keyboard". I do not have a laptop and I'm looking for something portable that I can play outdoors by either just plugging to an amp, or even with internal built speakers. Looks amazing, though. But not what I'm looking for at the moment.
Makes total sense! They do have a module actually that you can hook up that will give you some onboard general midi sounds, but I have not tried it.
@@NoahKellman Thanks for the quick reply!
@@rontomkins6727 Sure thing, Ron
Hi Noah, great video, can you just plug it straight into an amp? thanks simon
please respond? jeejej
Thanks Noah for the review. I'm curious if it has an external speaker and if not what do you recommend. Would a UE Boom speaker do the job?
Hey Mark, I don't believe it does have them built in. What you would do is pickup the little sound module along with the keyboard (in their store at checkout), then I think it would work with the UE Boom as long as the Boom has an actual headphone cable jack. You could take the headphone output from the Piano de Voyage sound module and connect to the Boom.
I recommend Anker Soundcore motion plus which boasts a wider 20hz to 20KHz sound range, 30W RMS, IPX7 rating, a good stereo effect soundstage and equaliser app. I have them for my Piano de Voyage and they sound decent enough, way better than JBL Charge 3/4 (30W), Marshall Kilburn (30W) or Marshall Stockwell II (18W). Having aux connection is an absolute must to avoid bluetooth lag.
I’ve been looking for something like this for a while! Do you know if there is a quarter inch port for amps?
Hey Benjamin, if you get the extra sound module at check out, there is a headphone output, but you would have to convert it into something that made sense for an amp. Might work with just a simple cable converter but not sure how that would work out in terms of volume like if it would be better to send through an interface or PA of something. Either way, it does require some kind of USB plug-in for power.
Oh and USB doesn’t need to be plugged into a device it could also be plugged into a power block or something like that.
Only a mini TRS on the sound card version/doubles as headphone jack. No prob.
It sounds good
So are the keys weighted or not? On the website it says 'not weighted'.
It’s a bit like organ keys- I would relate it to semi-weighted keys. It feels somewhat similar to an organ key in my opinion. I actually dig the feel- in many cases, the black keys are frustrating to play, but these play nicely.
@@NoahKellman nice. I will probably buy it and try it out. Thanks for your great video!
Awesome! ! !
finally. hopefully the key weight and velocity won't suffer
It’s not waited, but the semi weighted keys have a really nice action in my opinion. Velocity sensitivity is decent and there’s a chrome app for changing it to your liking.
Pretty cool !!
Great video. I’m a gear nerd too.
Very nice. What piano software are you using?
looks like pianoteq
How much does it cost?
Depends how many pieces you want. I’d recommend just checking out pianodevoyage.com
It be nice to take for a gig
Thank you
Sure thing!
thanks so much
Guess I'll get myself one - thanks a lot.
(Might you know of any places in Germany where one can try them?)
@@YingTou1 I’m actually not sure sorry! How close are you to France? 😅
@@NoahKellman A vacation away.
Thanks for the groovy review. A little more clarification on inputs and outputs would have been nice. You're right: Piano de Voyage is an original and important product.
I guess the V3 Grand Piano module can be hooked up to this via USB, or by MIDI Legacy if the Piano de Voyage has that - but I doubt it does. This instrument is really a controller, and as such, I feel that it should include Legacy out and soundbank controls, to get the most out of ad-on hardware and software. It should also have a built-in velocity control. A switch with say 5 positions would make a huge difference. I guess they are still testing the market. I'll be watching this space for Piano de Voyage II. It's ironic that such an exciting product has been made in the very country I want to move to eventually. It will certainly be a piano voyage when I move my digital pianos there.
I really like that this instrument can be played without connecting all the segments. 88 notes can be too big on some desks, and even at some gigs. I'm taking a 61-note keyboard on holiday this summer - yes to France. It's a shame about the piano sound quality and the sprung action on my 61-note keyboard, but I'll be in a motorhome. Don't want a long board. The Piano de Voyage plus any compatible sound module could all have worked well for me. Well maybe next year!
Thank you for the thoughtful comment, Mike. This is helpful and I hope you are able to find a good solution that works for you!
For a thousand Euros I would rather buy an M-Audio hammer action or a real digital piano, doesn’t solve the portability problem for an 88 key piano but I’m reasonably certain very few people would want to run around with 88 keys in their backpack more like 25 or 33.
I think it really depends on your needs. For example, if you can just pop a keyboard into your car and then roll up to the gig right by the stage, obviously bring your best weighted keyboard. But for anything that requires carrying, I personally think a solution like this is great. I’ve already used it a ton and prefer to sacrifice the weighted keys for the portability in many cases. You just have to think about what your own situation is and what makes sense, but I think a lot of people would find this solution worth it.
I disagree. 88 keys is the nutz.
So I guess there's no Model B ever coming out...
Oh, as far as I know, it’s coming.
This is cool
It would be more portable if Pianoteq ran on a tablet or smartphone.
Definitely. That conversation has been had many many times on the Pianoteq forums. I’m not entirely sure why they’re holding back. One theory is that the pricing and cross-platform restrictions of the Apple App Store make it a doomed proposition. I haven’t looked at the forums lately though.
I,m waiting for a 49 key piano.portability is everything when you gig four times a week.I,m using irig 37 which I take on the bus and a Korg triton 49 controller with built in sounds
Nice sounds like a good rig. The cool thing about this one is that you don’t have to use all 88 keys, you can just use two or three pieces so you can actually have different sized keyboards depending on what you need. Just throw a couple pieces in your backpack. Not sure if I made that clear in the vid!
@@NoahKellman Yes I have a midi 5din converter and connect a GEM RPX module.with my irig pro 37.Got fed up with going to venues and every one and his wife play guitars .I,m old and can,t do the heavy lifting anymore for keyboards.The piano voyage could be a game changer.love yr vids
@@Jack-fs2im glad to hear it! And thank you I appreciate you watching and commenting 🙏
@@NoahKellman why not do paypal donations or patreon? I have learn,t a lot from you.I have listened to all the jazz masters a lot but always seem to come back to Earl Hines my fav.His “earl hines 1975 documentary ‘ on youtube is great and said to be the best jazz piano documentary ever made.Reccomended
@@Jack-fs2im thank you so much Jack. I usually just ask folks to support me by looking into my courses and PDFs. I will keep that idea in mind though. I appreciate it.
Good good 💥💥 💥👌
I value a weighted travel keyboard more than a lighter one.
Yes I want one !🤪
Somebody is behind the camera "diddling" on a piano and interferring with the soundtrack. I wish they weren't.