It’s Time to Admit, Karl-Antony Towns is the REAL Problem in Minnesota
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- Опубліковано 23 кві 2023
- Discussing the biggest issues for the Minnesota Timberwolves and their future, and why Rudy Gobert isn’t the worst of them
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KAT lacks the discipline to be the #1 guy on the team. I remember being annoyed at one of his post-game interviews after a loss and he said his gameplan was to go home and drink some wine. Butler's called him out. Conley's alluded to his problems.
KAT is the reason Ant's time is being wasted in Minnesota.
This really is something that we should talk about more. Everyone wants to blame Rudy and though he does have some blame, KAT needs to have more blame on him.
Exactly, he’s supposed to be the franchise player
Kat was gone most of the year to injury how does he get the blame
KAT is a defensive liability, he gets into foul trouble a ton and it hurts his team a lot and he doesn’t know how to defend consistently
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In his defence, few consider MIN a franchise 😂
I don't blame no one. Because non of them asked to be hurt. Injuries have this team where they are. Their key scorer off the bench is gone and the 13 point from Mc is gone too. And that Defense he bring. This team was hit with a lot of bad luck at the wrong time.
KAT ain't got heart, Jimmy saw it, and eventually Anthony will see it too.
I remember Derrick Rose said something about him too and I believe him and Jimmy is on the same page. I believe Thibbs can't operate the way he operate his way at Chicago there. something about the owner and organization too. see how Wiggs flourished at the right organization.
@@hambaallah-mn1em bro see how everyone who left is flourishing at different orgs.
@@hambaallah-mn1em the Timberwolves organization has always sucked and KAT cares more about 2k than NBA basketball
@@hambaallah-mn1em Wiggins only flourished cuz they only need a defender no trans be a all star player and be there main shooter
@@ii-kingfancy-ll3915 bruh if defender is all they needed they already have Gary Payton II, and Wiggins IS an all star wdym
KAT is a walking liability. His defense is grits, and you can pencil him in for at least 5 fouls each game.
Best shooting big man, he says
lmao he got 6 tonight dude is terrible hes played with some elite talent throughout the years and has always come up short. THEY said it was jimmy butlers fault
I hate to say this but KAT doesn't take the game seriously and his peers are far better. He's just not on the level of top tier big men like Joel and jokic, ad and giannis etc. He's overrated and isn't ur number one
@@Jshun40 He can say this because none of the big men before him needed to shoot 3s. They thrived on post-ups, something that KAT sucks.
Finally real basketball talk for wolves.
Just poor management by the wolves with that dismal trade that basically gutted their depth. Rudy fits in a team where everyone (except him) can switch in the perimeter without issues, and with Kat that isn't the case. Kat fits in a universe where Fortnite doesn't exist.
Facts, Gobert in Utah or with a team like Dallas or Atlanta can be a stud. Minnesota may actually be the worst spot in the league for him.
Has KAT really worked hard to be the best? Jimmy Buckets saw that he wasn't tough or that he was getting aggressive, that Butler wasn't going to stay with them. KAT is not going to ever catch Joker and Embiid, but will be paid the same. Time to move him while he has value.
Yeah, when Jimmy pulled that "I'll beat you with the last 4 guys off the end of the bench!" who do you think he was talking to? Then he went and did it. He should be glad to have Gobert. He doesn't have to rebound or defend the post and it gives him somebody to throw under the bus.
I’ve never been a KAT fan since his time in Kentucky. His weakness at center especially in defense and rebounding has always been a concern and is the very reason the Wolves went after Gobert.
it is kinda funny his defense was one of his strength when he was in Kentucky. Maybe Willie Cauley-Stein helped him but it is clear that his attitude is no match.
@@jq7352 Nah, he was absolutely not renowned for his D at Kentucky.
Towns is a defensive liability
He gets into foul trouble way too much
He’s rather immature
He is a #2 option at best
On a championship team he’s probably Chris Bosh but on a playoff team I agree with you
2nd option is generous, he's a 3rd option, just like another two former Wolves that were previously touted to be a star, Love with the Cavs and Wiggins with the Warriors.
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Chris Bosh never dreamed of flailing his arms EVERY PLAY in protest of non-calls like a 4 year old. Chris Bosh NEVER acted like an entitlement filled brat. Towns is a petulant child and hes made enemies with the refs; Bosh absolutely not.
Towns is no 2nd or 3rd option on a relevant team.
Towns is best suited for a bad team free of any pressures to win games; the ANTITHESIS of a Chris Bosh
@@malikjuiceshelby2368 bro, at least Bosh knows how to handle the post. KAT can't even do that.
I felt like we were gaining some traction before KAT came back. Granted we had McDaniels and Reid but still it felt like Rudy was finally finding a decent rhythm. I just hope the wolves front office decide to make the moves that’ll help Ant become the best version of himself!
I really don’t have any confidence in that front office after the trade they made for Gobert
@@And.One.Hoops1 it’s even worse when you look at how much Tim Connelly’s compensation package was. He’s the highest paid GM in the league at the moment and his very first move was the Gobert trade.
@@And.One.Hoops1 i dont knwow if you gave that much for Doncic or trae young. I love Gobert but for this package, i think only Giannis worth that.
Rudy ok, but man it seem like he is lost sometimes out there and a step behind. Not the biggest fan. But I think Naz should have gotten the 6th man award.
@@mrfunnylookinhayes9088 Rudy is not a gifted offensive player with bricks for hands, roller skates for legs and his touch could shatter plexiglass. He can also be violated (defensively) in a five out offense.
Without a doubt since day 1 this is Ant-Mans team I don't give a damn what KAT's done Ants heart and fire is what keeps this team alive even Naz Reid said it so I know I'm not to far off since we drafted him I knew he would be our guy
The fact kat gets a pass and no criticism is beyond me. Gobert isn't the reason why this team was struggling or why their up 3-0
Agreed
KAT never got a pass. He is constantly criticized, what r u even talking abt
@@ajc6615 Right? I honestly don't know that I've heard anyone outside of Minnesota say anything good about KAT since he won that 3 point contest, and even then people were whining about how Dirk was still better
The fact is that Towns is not getting a pass.(also literally he wasn't getting passed the ball either) He is getting criticized everywhere! You can't blame just 1 person in the entire organization as to why a team is up 3-0.
KAT is definitely our biggest problem. He’s not a leader and only cares about his points. Notice when teammates like Kyle Anderson and Austin Rivers do press interviews, they mention how they have to step up and be better leaders moving forward. It’s embarrassing
Communist China would teach kat how to be a proper leader
KAT isn’t a 1st option guy. It took awhile to figure it out but we all know it now.
We known for years but it’s too late cuz he’s already getting paid like he’s that guy
Good statements. I have calling to trade Kat for several years, could have gotten good players plus draft picks for him. Now his value will only be desired by a few teams with not good trade options.
KAT at best is the Kevin Love and the Chris Bosh of a championship team. He needs 2 superstar that can carry the team, Edwards will be the main guy so they just need a second superstar that can carry the offensive load when Anthony Edwards isn't performing well.
KAT is the third option who will stand at the corner, grab rebounds and provide additional defensive support.
To me gobert did everything he was supposed to do rebound and defend jokic shoots 63.2% during the season he shoot 48.4 that series, hell two of those he outplayed kat on offense
Well I think it is the injury
I think the wovles can look pretty good the next season if they trade kat for a few solid role players
God bless everyone and have a good day ..
Some players got severely overpaid, what else is new?
KATis similar to Beal, Ben Simmons comes to mind, even Lavine.. asking KAT to play like a superstar is like blaming Lavine that the Bulls missed the playoffs.
They are who they are. Business people.
U gotta put Ayton on that list too...
Great video. I agree KAT is the problem. He is not a max player
This is one of the best analyses I've ever seen on UA-cam addressing the elephant in the room on the Timberwolves, however it must be noted that Anthony Edwards is getting to Towns now and this last game he did play better so maybe Anthony Edwards can turn him around
The sad thing is, that most wouldnt consider it a elephant in the room.. even tho it definetly is
DONE BEEN SAYING THIS!!!
Most under the radar #1 pick in AGES!!!
Meanwhile SECOND ROUND pick Jokic is under more pressure... but KAT is a US black stretch big, so can't be his fault...
Spot on, many in MN have known he’s not the guy for a long time. Biggest problem that basically guarantees the Gobert trade is the worst ever is that the CBA completely screwed the wolves finances from this trade after the trade happened and the wolves had no way to know that the rules of the game would change this drastically. I hate Tim Connelly for that move but he’s a great GM if that transaction is taken out. If he can figure out a way to get out of KAT’s contract even if he gets robbed the wolves can still build around ANT and Jaden McDaniels which is a better place than the wolves have been for the better part of the past 15 years
KAT‘s distain to being an inside, near-the-rim baller means he won’t be great. It’s that simple for me. His inside game at Kentucky got him drafted #1 and was a 1-year mirage that worked in the NBA drafters, including me
He has tried to slim down every year and never got stronger. Just an overall terrible game plan from KAT and his trainers
KAT has been awful in every playoffs he's been in. Trade him while he still has value to get some assets back.
When clint capela outplayed him in the playoffs I knew he wasnt it
Do a sign and trade with the hawks get trey young for kat and now both teams look good! Trey young with Rudy gobert would be crazy! And kat with dejonte 🔥
You gained a sub bro, really like your NBA insights. You can definitely get up over 100k subs at some point! The topics you talk about are ones that people want to hear.
Jimmy Butler already told us this.
I've admitted this for years, probably since his rookie year. KAT was the big that taught me you can't win with one way centers. It's even rare to win with two way bigs 😅 it's a team game and defending the middle, rebounding and rim pressure on offense is all that's needed from a big. Anything else is gravy, expensive tax inhibiting gravy.
Maybe back than but now a days you also need to be able to spread the floor at least catch and shoot unless your stars are taking a majority of the 3s than your big doesn’t need to be able to shoot
Kat can't even post-up even if there's a mismatch, he's just too soft
It’s honestly mind -boggling considering how big he is
Rudy cant post up either bro.😅
Gobert was brought in to(in tandem with KAT) counter Jokic.. plan was(and seems still is) to have Lakers 2020-like team, with Howard and Davis on 5 and 4 -- Gobert and KAT on 5 and 4, which worked pretty well for Lakers against Jokic..
6 first rounders for a DPOY is absurd
So I’m crossing fingers for a team who could trade for KAT. And then see what will be the excuse for this franchise to fail every season
finally somebody blame KAT that he is the real problem even before Gobert arrived
I'll break it down very easy for everybody we were 6th in the West without Towns till his surprise comeback after Edwards went down to a minor ankle injury only to fall all the way down to 10th he truly opened my eyes this year we played way better without him
Minn screwed up trying to pay two players to play one position at the same time.
There's plenty of ppl who realised KAT was the problem before Butler got there, then Butler confirmed it after he left. And no, it wasn't Wiggins because Warriors players have confirmed they spoke to Jimmy before acquiring Wiggins, who had nothing but praise for him. Plus Wiggins showed who he was last year, especially in the playoffs. Obviously there's some blame at organisation level, but KAT just has no heart. He's not a winner. If Minnesota wants to correct the Gobert trade, they should recoup some picks by trading KAT now while he still has some value, then build around Edwards.
Teams have been desperate for any bit of relevance they handing out super max contracts to everyone. These were supposed to be reserved for special players like Lebron James, D Wade, or Kobe Bryant type players. Kat will never be that type of player and these owners only have themselves to blame.
Commenting this before watching the video:
KAT is the most logical player to trade as they will not get the value they gave up for Rudy if they try trade him. KAT also doesn't have that Mamba/Butler/Jordan mentality for a playoff series, but he is not the issue with the Timberwolves. I also think that Rudy is bad for any locker room.
After watching the vid: Stand by what I said, KAT is worse defensively than I had given him credit for and hadn't been quite as efficient as I expected offensively either. Still a good player, don't think that he's the issue with the franchise, but still think he's the most logical trade candidate. He's someone that can't be your 1st or 2nd best player in a playoff series because of his mentality.
It all comes down to who they can get back for him
As a Jazz fan, thank you for taking Gobert off our hands. Now we have 81,535,261 picks over the next five years to actually trade and do shit with to potentially get an amazing draft pick or bona-fide All-Star caliber player(s).
Hey we'll take him!!! We'll give u Randle!! Give em both fresh starts lol
God everything about this makes me sick. I’m such a big Anthony Edwards fan and now wolves but hard knowing their big guys are stuck there
KAT has always been the problem. Who do you think Jimmy was calling out when he challenged and beat the MIN stars during practice? But KAT's contract is worth it because MIN fans come out to see him and they pay the bills. So they will continue to reward KAT. And MIN will continue to be a 1st round exit team.
Worst franchise in history, longest playoff’s drought before he got there but he was always the problem. That’s how dumb these uneducated simpletons are.
Even the Dlo and Kay didn't work out. I expected a lot, not a lot but enough lol
KAT has been softer than Anthony Edwards since he got drafted. I’d send KAT away if I’m not gonna get a coach that can maximize his value
Wolves were 5 wins away of the 3rd seed with KAT missing preseason, 52 games and coming back in minute restriction, then they lost 2 rotation players against the 1st seed that oblitarated the Phoenix Suns in game one.
They acquired Gobert for the same reasons you would a guy like Dennis Rodman, Draymond Green, Ben Wallace in a way all these guys are Role Players but at like the absolute highest level of doing so, I call them super role players or role players ++
I like that, as there should be a special name for players in that mold
well i have to say something about that game minnesota vs lakers (for 7th seat). when there was 2-5mins to the end of the game Minnesota was super stuck because Edwards was a little injured and the team still kept pushing the ball to him and naturally Edwards did nothing, waited till clocks expires but thats understandable because he wasnt himself due to light injury. I was thinking why team kept pushing the ball to him and I think it's just a strategy to keep believing in team's leader, not sure if it was right strategy though. Too bad russel was traded, he made the team offensive machine. nonetheless Minnesota was really good team last season unfortunately some keys role players were missing in playoffs.
The Timberwolves are a medium market team not a small market team. Bleacher report had them at 16th overall and other sources state "medium". I know everyone considers every team not L.A, N.Y Boston or Philly small market but that's not true or correct.
Great vid. TWolves fans feel this.
We need PB back, keep Anderson, and Naz. Use Naz as the 4. Keep Rivers. Focus on Minott on D with McDaniels and i dare to say trade kat. I love kat, but you can trade for maybe some firsts, and maybe a decent player? We need dogs on the team, not kats.
All those years later, Jimmy was right. Him leading the backups to get at Towns and Wiggins was the red flag.
Build around ant. That simple
There's a video of Conley saying that they have to practise more instead of playing Call Of Duty after game, and then KAT is joking in the background that they have to play COD later. I think that tells a lot about KAT, he's not taking basketball seriously.
The man missed 52 games and came back 5 games before the playoffs after a grade 3 injury. What did you expected ? And I’m sorry but why nobody is talking about the coaching ?! ANT can be good and all, but if the coaching staff don’t make some adjustments this team won’t go anywhere. Clearly, y’all are talking but don’t realize what it takes to win a championship.
Even then has KAT ever been good in the playoffs he has never had a good playoff series. I don't think he is the main problem but he is a problem.
KAT is Not on that level but.. its the GM fault for trading anyone and anything for Gobert.. they can get someone like Christian Woods for less..
4:00 To be fair, they were literally playing ANTHONY DAVIS and LEBRON JAMES and he was their only playable/available big man he was bound to get attacked and in foul trouble.
He played very well in FIBA
You are right.
Is it KAT? Or is it the organization? I mean Wiggins was the problem before KAT but look how that turned it around in Golden State
I like how you break down shit!!! Keep making Content Im Listening!
KAT please come to the NBA UK Institute, you be welcome with open arm and fit in perfectly with your alumni brothers!
Been saying this since 2016 🤦♂️ I need to start getting paid for this
Kendrick Perkins said that Anthony Edwards and Karl Anthony Towns were not hanging out outside of the office, that's changed now, they are officially!!
Perk just jealy the Wolves had a pizza party before game 4 and he was never invited to team parties as a player
Does KAT have a no trade clause?, If not then they should trade him, maybe to the Blazers for their #3 pick and Anfernee + 1 or 2 bench players.
Wolves can built around Ant and Blazers would get a win-now player that would've made them instant contenders (and Dame would be very happy as well)
That moment you remember Jimmy Butler got stuck with Towns AND Ben Simmons?!
Kats mvp play-reduce my contract,sign someone good
"You know why the call you KAT? Coz, you ain't got a dog in you! You effing soft!" -Himmy Butler after finishing the starters in that legendary scrim
The draft picks they gave up for someone that made so little difference is a huge issue for their future. The town problem should be easier to get out of at least and he despite his weaknesses teams would still trade for him
Wolves miss the playoffs without Gobert. They don’t give up a lotto pick this year because of Rudy and they have a 1st next summer. KAT + 1st round pick is a great trade starter
@@blakelarson5005 I’m pretty sure the 2023 pick is unprotected. Quite a few of the other ones too.
FINALLY! Been saying this for so long...
Kat is a pillar for the team. He ain't the main pillar, but wolves need him. He just trying too much, trying to be Jokic when he's not. Dude just need to be him and score the ball. One of the best big man scorer, just score the ball.
Its almost like handing young guys 200m dollars before they even prove anything in the league is a bad idea. It doesn't matter how he performs, he's made his money. That's the reality. There are players who will give 100% because they just love the game (Lebron, KD, Butler), but many are just glad they are good enough to be in the league and making millions.
KAT is laughing to the bank.
We sold the farm for Gobert because of Kats lack of interior defense...
If kat picks up his feet and works at it they could play tall ball and play Kat are at the 3
KAT aint got that dog / Heart Jimmy Butler saw it and Spoke on it. Anthony needs to be with a Franchise and on a team that plays in an uptempo offense playing in a half court offense with these 2 big's one who is an dud on offense and the other who has the talent but will stand on the outside shooting long twos & threes instead of going in the post and making it happen and sucks on defense
Self proclaimed best big man shooter all time… Dirk would laugh at Kat
Y'all don't understand how many fights i almost got into and was so pissed at people here in MN saying kat is a goat and Wiggins was overrated because he has a max. I will never really respect kat for letting that narrative ride
Not only KAT, but Tim Connelly deserves the most blame too who tf trades their whole bench and 5 draft picks for a center like Rudy he mortgaged yall future for gobert just to loose in the first round. Plus the Cavs gave up less compared to the wolves in the Mitchell trade 😂
4:19 did you mean Anthony Davis (AD)?
Perfect fit for Bucks to play alongside Giannis but can only dream
Sorry to see it took everyone like 5 years to realize that Jimmy was right! Shame on TWolves fans!!
No look at Boston Philly trade 2017 draft. Look at all Philly bad moves they should be a dynasty by now
every year i wait on KAT to have a season where he breaks out but i realized its just never gonna happen. trade him
Towns is supposedly the leader of this team so he should lead by example and inspire his teammates to work even harder., But i could be wrong..maybe they traded for gobert to be the leader because towns is as soft as a marshmallow and he can't lead shite
Towns can lead a high school don't get me wrong he just sucks at defense and is a cry baby on offense
It's time to bring him over to THE NEW YORK KNICKS.
I disagree with a lot of this video personally, I understand your points and I do agree with KAT not showing up in the big moments and him being way to passive but as for the big picture I disagree with your take. I love Jimmy Butler and we can all agree that he is a killer and a fierce competitior but I don't understand this notion people have that because KAT couldn't get along with Jimmy that somehow means he's "soft". A lot of players/people wouldn't respond well to how Jimmy leads, it doesn't mean he's a bad leader but it's just not for everyone, we saw the exact same thing happen in philly pretty much where they decided he was too much for them to handle (I understand that philly may not be the best example considering all of their playoff failures but still). Another thing to consider is at the time KAT was only in his 3rd/4th year and up until that point was the star player for that franchise, not to use it as too much of an excuse but something to keep in mind. Last year we saw how successful KAT and the timberwolves were when they had a guy who's similar to Jimmy in a way in Pat Bev, of course some issues were still there and KAT at times was still way too passive but the idea that he doesn't respond well to/that he's too soft to have a tough leader, a no bullshit type of guy in the locker room I'm just not sure I can agree with.
As for whats going on right now as much as I don't think Rudy should get all the blame you have to imagine the difference that has made for the team especially from KATs perspective. You've basically forced him to play powerforward next to a 7 footer when he's spent his entire career playing center, on top of that he's been injured for most of the season so there has been very little time for him to actually get settled in that new position and to play with Rudy. It's not a surprise that he was getting exposed on defense against the nuggets, he is a 7 footer playing powerforward, he was never a good defender in the first place and you said it yourself Rudy was getting cooked as well, Denver are a phenomenal offensive team.
For me one of the things I actually respect about KAT is how willing he is to adapt in order to try to win. When Jimmy came he knew who the better player was and was willing to be the 2nd option despite being the former #1 pick and the future of the franchise, when Ant came into the league he quickly recognised the potential and again has shown to be willing to take a backseat and let Ant be that guy, with Rudy coming in he showed no complaints with playing powerforward to try and benefit the team. It might not always work out and again he has his issues, clearly he is too passive at times but he does try whatever he can to win.
Anyway long story short I think it's harsh to call KAT THE problem with Minnesota when we have seen them have success (specifically last season) with him as one of the main guys on the team and I do think he deserves the benefit of the doubt this year considering the adjustments having to be made to play with Rudy and to play in a completely different position. Of course he has his flaws and he is way too passive, maybe him and Rudy won't work because it's just not a good fit but I think the idea that you can't win with him and the narrative that he is soft is overblown.
Cant blame rudy at all . Hes a glorified role player. Hes there to play defense & rebound. Wolves stayed afloat all year because of rudy & ant while kat missed like 60 games . Ant already is & had been the franchise player here for 2 years . Be shocked if kat isnt traded either this summer or next
Cant really blame wolves management here. They tried building around kat, unfortunate how those turned out.
U can blame the management u should dealt him but they held him and now that he showing who he is to the world u think other teams not looking
We gone ship towns and get what we gave up for Rudy and more
T pups should of kept Wiggins and Lavine instead!!
4:20, damn Edward really bullied KAT
I think Jokic is the best players in the league right now. KAT did his best to defend him but for how fast he moves in the post that's not a easy task. KAT didn't do to good in the play offs. But it happens everyone has bad games. I thought he did really good in the regular season. Creating space for his teammates. Finding the open man. Shooting quality shots. The full starting line up didn't have too many games to play together do to injuries. I think if the team stops fighting amongst themselves and get to work improving there chemistry on the Cort we could have a really good team next year. Only time will tell but I have faith in my wolves
Thank god I found a comment that isn't regurgitated garbage. Everything about this video is actually a false narrative. Everyone is blaming Kat.
Wolves don't have Ryan Anderson on their team. Never did. Smh.
I completely agree. The wolves' problem isn't just Gobert. Maybe if KAT can help Gobert on defense and inside scoring. KAT has to go. At least you can still live with Gobert's defense as a Rim Protector. They need some outside shooting and players who can defend the perimeter to help Gobert in the defense and another big man to help Gobert defend the paint. At this point, this is Ant's team now.
Neither of them are a problem the only problem was KAT getting injured and right when he comes back ANT get injured, then Reid and Jaden
Your analysis is always excellent. The video accompanying this piece was not however because it showed KAT hitting everything he threw up. I know this video comes from highlights but maybe just show KATs defense vs. having him look like a superstar. Kinda counteracts the point you were trying to make. You do a really good job, just thought that video was confusing.
The T-Wolves were a totally different team with Jimmy Buckets. They were legit condensers. But now that Jimmys gone, KAT looks like a totally different player & not in a good way.
Been saying it for awhile he's a 3 and a half quater player. Once it gets to crunch time he disappears.
Amen