Why JJ Is Still Baffled By The Rudy Gobert Trade

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  • @kevingraves8196
    @kevingraves8196 Рік тому +1469

    That trade set the wolves back 20 years edit: Enter....UNO REVERSE CARD 😆

    • @mr.j5526
      @mr.j5526 Рік тому +176

      They were already back 15 years prior once they got rid of Jimmy

    • @tjstakes167
      @tjstakes167 Рік тому +66

      I mean the wolves have the worst winning percentage in American sports so it’s only right

    • @pcentauri3940
      @pcentauri3940 Рік тому +36

      They should have keept Jimmy and trade KAT

    • @tjstakes167
      @tjstakes167 Рік тому +37

      @@pcentauri3940 Jimmy would’ve left eventually

    • @jasonbady5879
      @jasonbady5879 Рік тому +22

      Being that it was the first time the team went to the playoffs in back to back years in 20 years… yes it set the wolves back 20 years

  • @jht4052
    @jht4052 Рік тому +164

    The Kessler / Vando comment at the end is spot-on. They literally gave away the two guys that they needed to get Gobert who they don't need. Gobert was a great defender but you just had his best year remaining on his deal.

    • @danielrasmussen2167
      @danielrasmussen2167 Рік тому +10

      No one saw Kessler being as impactful as he was that fast. To pretend like they just should have known and kept him, come on.

    • @Hectorymusique
      @Hectorymusique Рік тому +6

      @@danielrasmussen2167 and top of that, Kessler is fine, but far from as good as Rudy in defense right now..(can be at a moment but not right yet) blocks are important but far from everything

  • @mnolson1
    @mnolson1 9 місяців тому +16

    This isn’t aging well. This is the trade that made the Timberwolves one of the top teams in the west and NBA title contenders.

    • @colethornton6263
      @colethornton6263 3 місяці тому

      Anthony Edwards is what made them one of the top teams, they won in spite of the trade

  • @oxfordbambooshootify
    @oxfordbambooshootify Рік тому +771

    The biggest problem was KAT. This was supposed to be his team but he always shrinks on the biggest stage and NEVER plays any defense

    • @realcade
      @realcade Рік тому +101

      As a wolves fan thank you for saying this KAT is one of the softest players in the league straight up

    • @JamesKP17847
      @JamesKP17847 Рік тому +42

      KAT has been a major disappointment they need a culture change or a trade if they want KAT to reach his potential or even get close to it

    • @bignoob24
      @bignoob24 Рік тому +18

      ​@@realcade He deadass just needs to be aggressive and actually make a few changes to his game, and then things should work out.

    • @thinperx5628
      @thinperx5628 Рік тому +41

      Jimmy knows

    • @aaronperry3950
      @aaronperry3950 Рік тому +42

      The biggest problem with KAT related to the Rudy trade is you neuter KAT's offense by playing him at the 4.
      Ironically, when KAT/Gobert were on the floor together, they had the best defensive rating in the league, but the worst offensive rating.

  • @noahwelch2931
    @noahwelch2931 Рік тому +119

    The Gobert trade was HORRENDOUS for 3 reasons:
    1. The capital and value that was lost was insane. 5 1st rounders, a pick swap, Walker Kessler, Pat Bev, Jared Vando, Malik Beasley, Leandro Bolmaro in order to acquire RUDY GOBERT and his bad contract
    2. Literally the worst possible way to develop Anthony Edwards is to plant 2, 7’0s in the paint that are soft and have insanely high cap hits.
    3. KAT has made a living dominating at playing the center role and out playing other large, burley centers. Kat’s weakness is going up against smaller players. The gobert trade literally forced KAT to play the power forward role where he is up against the smaller players.
    Yeah this trade made zero sense.

    • @devinyelkin5689
      @devinyelkin5689 Рік тому +2

      You obviously haven’t watched enough wolves because 3 is flat out wrong. He was dominated last season by large center like Valanciunas and the wolves were continually dominated at the rim. Which is what got them knocked out of the playoffs.

    • @noahwelch2931
      @noahwelch2931 Рік тому +20

      @@devinyelkin5689 3 is flat out correct lol. KAT literally got steven adams benched in the entire memphis series. and if i was wrong, then how come last year every single team in the NBA began running power forwards on Towns? 💀u don’t know basketball
      and i suppose you could tell this directly to JJ Reddick as he clearly specifies that is the case in this video

    • @johnmalcon3885
      @johnmalcon3885 Рік тому +6

      @@devinyelkin5689 Devin my guy....it is true. KAT was extremely successfully against centers, not against power forwards. KAT uses his footwork, leverage, and veratility to outpreform centers, while power forwards get him in constant foul trouble. I think you are the one who should start watching more timberwolves games (and this is coming from a Jazz fan).

    • @3nim3nimabl3
      @3nim3nimabl3 Рік тому +3

      I thought KAT was an amazing shooter, I thought they'd let Rudy take the paint and let Kat be 7 foot Stepg Curry or something, but that's only because I've never paid attention the Timberwolves so idk what I'm talking about😂

    • @sitonmuhdeckasshole
      @sitonmuhdeckasshole Рік тому +1

      Worst trade in NBA history

  • @timothywright1318
    @timothywright1318 Рік тому +703

    As a Jazz fan, I have never loved a trade more!

    • @wesleycuban8649
      @wesleycuban8649 Рік тому +64

      As a Lakers fan, you know I’m right there with you. This all worked out for both of us 😂😂

    • @Pat323232
      @Pat323232 Рік тому +6

      Which is sad, because I love Gobert and it's tough seeing all the hate he's getting. Especially because there are more parts to the trade that not everyone understands

    • @gurjassinghbatra5758
      @gurjassinghbatra5758 Рік тому +3

      ​@@Pat323232 what other parts?

    • @Pat323232
      @Pat323232 Рік тому +8

      @@gurjassinghbatra5758 the reason wasn't "to go get a elite center that will take us to a championship". having Rudy is supposed to help the team get better defensively, while the offensive power would run through ANT and KAT. Because the Wolves underperformed tremendously, people put the blame all on Rudy.

    • @gurjassinghbatra5758
      @gurjassinghbatra5758 Рік тому +7

      @@Pat323232 that's true, all the blame shouldn't go to Rudy

  • @madhandles231
    @madhandles231 Рік тому +18

    “75 first round picks or whatever it was” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @sjmuri
    @sjmuri 10 місяців тому +15

    This didn't age well...lol.

  • @Jeff-zm5xp
    @Jeff-zm5xp 10 місяців тому +4

    The Timberwolves have the number one record in the western conference with wins against the Nuggets and Celtics.

  • @hiphopduba
    @hiphopduba Рік тому +15

    I really like this JJ Redick, Tim Legler
    pairing both really know the game. They have good chemistry

  • @DeeSevyn
    @DeeSevyn Рік тому +25

    who idea was it to give up perimeter defenders for a paint defender in a league where the 3 will destroy you 😐

    • @roboninja3194
      @roboninja3194 Рік тому +2

      Someone that is totally clueless about the NBA today. Oddly enough that's the GM of the Wolves. A fan could literally do this guy's job better.

    • @elolololololol
      @elolololololol Рік тому +2

      its not like paint defenders dont have value against 3pointers, see lopez or right now AD against the warriors. wolves just have two guys who cant guard the perimeter

    • @lylaeloise3948
      @lylaeloise3948 7 місяців тому

      @@roboninja3194 @SevynBanks7 good thing y'all aren't the GM...

  • @brooksorlando4881
    @brooksorlando4881 Рік тому +22

    It'd be one thing if they signed him outright, but to give up all those assets for an awkward fit makes no sense.

  • @jaayeee24
    @jaayeee24 Рік тому +20

    When you have a 5 who doesn’t want to play the 5 and get an additional 5. 🤷‍♂️

    • @penkima4923
      @penkima4923 Рік тому +1

      I think we might have had a five, who didn't want to play as a five, ten years ago. In today's league, we just have players.

    • @jaayeee24
      @jaayeee24 Рік тому +1

      @@penkima4923 Maybe KAT is just a player but Rudy is definitely a pure 5.

  • @SomPrince
    @SomPrince Рік тому +22

    They watched the Jazz struggle with in the postseason with Rudy and still traded for him like he’s prime Kevin Durant 😂
    They also didn’t learn from the Jimmy situation and decide maybe it’s time to trade KAT.

    • @nydibs
      @nydibs Рік тому +3

      They couldnt trade KAT due to his extension

  • @bigpimpen1000
    @bigpimpen1000 Рік тому +10

    Love that he had Tim on the show. Great basketball mind that deserves more screen time

    • @LuisRodriguez-gu3uw
      @LuisRodriguez-gu3uw Рік тому +3

      Honestly Legler and Scott Van Pelt the only reason to watch the degenerate ESPN nonsensical takes. Have a beautiful day friend!

  • @ploe69
    @ploe69 5 місяців тому +2

    We became “less versatile “ LMAO probably the most versatile team in the NBA now defensively

  • @LANMEE2
    @LANMEE2 Рік тому +18

    I think that Tim had the idea to make something like the bubble lakers with a defensive 5 and Towns would act as a poor man's AD. Since Tim saw it first row when those lakers won vs denver in wcf that year

    • @MrE_
      @MrE_ Рік тому +7

      That and the old-school thinking that 2 bigs used to be the standard for championship teams in the past, so it surely should work now against these small ball teams. But it just doesn't work, at least not with those 2 bigs specifically

    • @wesleycuban8649
      @wesleycuban8649 Рік тому +4

      Difference is, those Lakers had DHoward, Lebron James and Anthony Davis & Javale. The twolves talent level is 100% NOT THAT 😂 So I’m unsure why they thought that approach would work for them in any facet.

    • @nils4349
      @nils4349 5 місяців тому

      ​@@MrE_You're right. This will never work...

    • @nils4349
      @nils4349 5 місяців тому

      ​@@wesleycuban8649Yeah how could they

  • @TheBucketHatBlink
    @TheBucketHatBlink Рік тому +29

    Something ppl forget tho is the Gobert trade is partially on KAT. He didn't want to play center so the Wolves had to go and find someone skilled and plays center, which should help retain KAT

    • @samkellogg2805
      @samkellogg2805 Рік тому +4

      Well then make a better trade for a center, or tell Kat to kick rocks, or trade Kat. I'm no fan of Kat but he is not the gm.

    • @rabbijoe316
      @rabbijoe316 Рік тому +6

      Literally just trading KAT would've made more sense.

    • @GurtonBuster07
      @GurtonBuster07 Рік тому +1

      Nah, the Minnesota FO thought the only way for KAT to play as a big in league was to have a rim protecting Center with him lmao

    • @aaronperry3950
      @aaronperry3950 Рік тому +9

      Bruh there was no world where KAT said he "didn't want to play center" lmao.

    • @scribbes
      @scribbes Рік тому +5

      Huh? When did the Kat ever say he didn’t want to play center?

  • @willcarlen9301
    @willcarlen9301 8 місяців тому +3

    First in the west baby. We had injuries last year and it takes time for chemistry to build. It looks great now!

  • @Ehh-nx7nk
    @Ehh-nx7nk 4 місяці тому +4

    A JJ Reddick take aging badly… sooo surprised

  • @dboii9741
    @dboii9741 Рік тому +4

    I was baffled too JJ. Minnesota had a very good formula last year with Vanderbilt at the 4 helping KAT on defense and Pat Bet at the 2, they could’ve just built on that and got a Josh Hart to replace Pat Bev🤦🏿‍♂️but no they went for the 3o million dollar center who holds them back on offense

  • @sammy89716
    @sammy89716 10 місяців тому +3

    Eat crow brotha! Gobert is one of the most valuable assets in the league, just put some solid complimentary assets around him. Simple

  • @erictate04
    @erictate04 Рік тому +2

    There not a FA Destination, KAT is horrible on Defense and loves to shoot 3’s which you can’t win with, Anthony Edward’s is from ATL and has the Charisma of a Major Market Superstar which scares them down the line, Jimmy Butler didn’t work because of “personalities” … So they Plunged! When you add it all up it makes sense that you traded for a, Mild Manner 3x Defense Player of Year in Rudy Gobert. You don’t have to like the Trade. But the reasons for it are pretty clear.

  • @mazak8988
    @mazak8988 Рік тому +6

    You maybe can like the idea of the trade, but you sure can't like the price.

    • @eriksports
      @eriksports Рік тому +1

      Ya and even liking the idea of the trade kind of implies that you’re not up to speed with the modern nba…

  • @Giggitygootwo
    @Giggitygootwo Рік тому +2

    You all STILL dont understand Gobert on the Jazz - Gobert has very little trouble guarding small lineups. The Jazz at Guard and Wing had NO point of attack defense. So Gobert had to help at the rim. Amazing that men this basketball savvy can miss the mark so badly.

  • @DaPhenomAce
    @DaPhenomAce Рік тому +2

    Something about Kentucky centers not wanting to play Center for some reason 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @beenieweenie1986
    @beenieweenie1986 Рік тому +2

    As a Mavs fan I'd love to see if we could get gobert. Obviously at a way lower price than 4 firsts, but with kyrie and Luka we can get buckets at will but we can't stop anyone.

  • @endless_waltz18
    @endless_waltz18 Рік тому +2

    The trade sent them back a couple years. They need to trade KAT and build around ANT. It could’ve been a great duo plus Kessler/Vanderbilt but they have to make up for it now

  • @everyday_truth
    @everyday_truth 11 місяців тому +1

    well, i know it’s preseason, but the wolves starting 5 has manhandled whatever dallas has thrown out on the court. i think the experiment may very well succeed.

  • @brandoni241
    @brandoni241 Рік тому +2

    The worst part of the trade that they didnt talk about, is Gobert's contract...

  • @dennisdunker8764
    @dennisdunker8764 Рік тому +2

    It was just a bad trade... i mean im pretty sure every analyst and fan called it from the moment it happened... they gave up an exorbitant amount for a dude who played the same position as your best player.
    Even if they got him for next to nothing its a questionable decision

  • @TheHomercles
    @TheHomercles Рік тому +1

    It's setting back every team that doesn't like who they have now. Teams that want to trade for superstars are losing multiple first rounders because teams are thinking if the Jazz can get four first rounders for Rudy Gobert, imagine what we can get for our superstar. It's set a course of dominoes that is felt all over the NBA.

  • @angelitomacagba5767
    @angelitomacagba5767 Рік тому +1

    Yup! didnt make sense at all.. if they wanted to trade with Utah they should have traded for Mitchell instead. or with Portland to get Lillard with all the assets they gave up.

  • @DarkManXwithThe45
    @DarkManXwithThe45 Рік тому +1

    It look like the goal was to have a pick & roll defensively tuned in big man, similar to what Steven Adams is in Memphis but the team isn’t built for that style of play.

  • @pauljoseph3081
    @pauljoseph3081 Рік тому +1

    Gobert trade was meant to throw shade at KAT and pressure him to step up. It's definitely an experiment, a risky one.
    And lo and behold, it didn't work. 😂

  • @MrJjreid
    @MrJjreid Рік тому +2

    I don't think the Wolves were high on KAT. He didn't have a good series against Memphis. I think they were forced to give him that extension because he made 3rd team All-NBA. They probably would have traded him if he didn't.

  • @joosh5566
    @joosh5566 Рік тому +1

    KAT has been through actual hell in his life outside of basketball, I’m not sure how that isn’t affecting him in some way on the court

  • @spicyshizz2850
    @spicyshizz2850 Рік тому +1

    3:33 How the hell did KAT want this lmaoo

  • @elliotjackson1
    @elliotjackson1 Місяць тому

    Great trade. It pushed the wolves to the top team in the west. Every team Gobert is in becomes a top team with top defense. His metrics and numbers that show his impact out him at the top of the league with the top ten players. It’s just that he doesn’t do it with flashy 3pointers with his tongue out while doing a baby dance so people don’t like it because it is winning without being Curry. It really upsets people.

  • @RKGrizz
    @RKGrizz Рік тому

    I have been in the trade KAT camp for years, you would get more for him than he give you. When GMs are listing him as a top 5 player to start your franchise with but he has a 35% win rate at the time you sell high and get a haul.

  • @kevinkarsnia109
    @kevinkarsnia109 9 місяців тому +2

    Still early but how does hindsight look now? Vanderbilt averages 1 point a game lol. How about giving things some time.

  • @MeezyTubee
    @MeezyTubee Рік тому +15

    The problem is they got better defensively but much worse on offense

    • @AB-sw4kb
      @AB-sw4kb Рік тому +1

      Also they have no bench and no future. Beasley was randomly clutch for them and Vanderbilt was key defensively.

    • @nydibs
      @nydibs Рік тому

      Wolves were much better on offense with Rudy/Conley than they were last year. They could not close games last season, they couldnt score in the last 5 minutes of games. Thats how they lost the series vs the Grizzlies last year
      And while it was still an issue occasionally this season, it was definitely not as bad as least season

    • @nydibs
      @nydibs Рік тому +1

      @@AB-sw4kb - they do have a bench with Naz Reid, NAW, Kyle Anderson and Prince. They still need to upgrade on Nowell and McLaughlin but their bench is not terrible at all
      The issue was that Jaden McDaniels and Naz Reid were injured, so they had no depth due to that. They are key players for the wolves, McDaniels is a starter, and Naz is the 6th man and only big off the bench

    • @jlui21
      @jlui21 Рік тому

      -- Gobert with 0 dribble is easily 70FG% but 1 or more dribbles? 40FG.
      If he had some kind of post up move, it might have worked but he has mitts for hands. Good luck Wolves.

    • @cameronwolters7744
      @cameronwolters7744 Рік тому +1

      @@AB-sw4kb to say a team with Anthony Edwards has no future is egregious.

  • @PapaMatt107
    @PapaMatt107 Рік тому +1

    As good as Gobert was as a rim protector and rebounder, is he really worth that much of money and assets like he is a generational or franchise player that you could anchor your team on? The same things that Gobert does on the court you also see guys like Nic Claxton, Mitchell Robinson, Daniel Gafford, Jarrett Allen do on a regular basis and no team would sign them to a super max contract much more trade for 8-10 players worth of assets. Just being real here.

  • @tsmguxxi6559
    @tsmguxxi6559 Рік тому

    Love u have him on so much legs deserves so much more air time he is perfect , informative no bias and jus seems cool asf

  • @danielnikochandra
    @danielnikochandra Рік тому

    The "trading KAT" part is something I unexpectedly agree with, maybe to the Blazers for their #3 pick and Anfernee + 1 or 2 bench players?
    Wolves can built around Ant and Blazers would get a win-now player that would've made them instant contenders (and Dame would be very happy as well)

  • @alvin081988
    @alvin081988 Рік тому +1

    Good thing Tim Connelly left Denver and now they are doing good

  • @lchood21791
    @lchood21791 Рік тому

    As a Wolves fan it never made sense and the longer he’s on it it will cost them some real good Ant years. I’m fine with both bigs being traded because you need versatility going forward in this league.

  • @deserter85
    @deserter85 Рік тому

    If the trade didn’t involve a bunch of picks it might be more palatable. I thought the more reasonable trade was Gobert + pick(s) for a young star, or Gobert for role players + 1 1st rounder. What the Wolves did were nuts.

  • @ndrocca
    @ndrocca Рік тому

    I NEVER understood the Gobert trade for Minnesota. They gave up so many assets to stick a defensive center who is best used roaming the paint on a team with another guy who’s best used roaming the paint (on defense). The fit never made sense to me and to give all that up. That’s not even considering the fit offensively which may be just as bad. The trade was an absolute steal for Utah. They are perfectly set for a rebuild project.

  • @gamesnstuff657
    @gamesnstuff657 Рік тому

    As a Jazz fan I was baffled. The twolves didn't have a team that would be a good fit for gobert. Yet they sold the farm for him

  • @Ho11is2Ho11ywood
    @Ho11is2Ho11ywood Рік тому

    I'm not a Gobert fan but the fit on paper isn't terrible. It's the insane amount of assets they gave up is just insane

  • @kanselme26
    @kanselme26 Рік тому +1

    Honestly I don’t understand how the GM of Minnesota still has a job 😂 the trade for Rudy Gobert and making one opponent of your conference better 😂

  • @jcabram9002
    @jcabram9002 Рік тому +1

    I could imagine the moment Gobert signed that contract was the fastest he ever moved his muscle. 😂

  • @27mkg213
    @27mkg213 Рік тому

    Nobody had an idea kessler would be as good as he was yr 1. We weren't ever looking to draft kessler anyway. I dont like the amount of picks we gave up. Rudy played "alright" but not great. Towns was injured for most the yr and then when he came back we lost Naz and Jayden. Hard to tell what could've been, I think we did better against Denver than the other 2 have done with limited players. I love Kat and what he can bring, he just needs to clean it up some and get comfortable again. I think that's why we got Rudy, to try n take some of Kats fouls away to keep him in the game. He did a little better this time when getting into foul trouble but that part needs work for sure. If anything you trade rudy next yr and get what you can back if this doesnt work. Finch even said the rest of the league was going small so he's zigging when they're zagging

  • @marvincotton1919
    @marvincotton1919 Рік тому

    Low hanging fruit. This is an off-season topic lol and you're 100% correct 😂💯

  • @AJ-em5rl
    @AJ-em5rl Рік тому

    they brought in Gobert to make up for KAT's defence but now KAT has to defend 4s which nowadays are really just tall 3s with a lot of mobility and can shoot. This is such a terrible move that everybody knew was bad the day it was announced. the Wolves will never win with the people in charge

  • @sammy89716
    @sammy89716 10 місяців тому +3

    Showing your insane lack of basketball knowledge not considering Rudy a difference maker. Shouldn’t have a job in basketball media 😂

    • @sammy89716
      @sammy89716 10 місяців тому

      @timlegler clown

  • @jgray2718
    @jgray2718 Рік тому

    I think we were all very confused by the Gobert trade. I like Gobert as a player and the Twolves needed defense, but the price was absurd and you can't really play KAT and Gobert together very well. It reminded me of the Lakers getting Westbrook - he's a fine player but that's not what you need, and it's very expensive.
    As a Laker fan, though, I'm very happy that we ended up with Jarred Vanderbilt.

  • @JayD73
    @JayD73 Рік тому

    I actually think the only way out of this is to trade KAT to the blazers grab that third pick Simons and some more draft capital and start building around Edwards and a high draft pick. I feel like both teams should be down for that especially the Timberwolves or else they’re just doubling down on the worst trade ever

  • @AlenVids
    @AlenVids Рік тому

    Can we give our team a fully healthy year before writing it off? They’ve shown glimpses of it working just need more time.
    Also we gave up additional picks to keep McDaniels which was clearly the right choice - it’s still an overpay don’t get me wrong. The Cavs and Hawks should also be getting criticized as much as we are for giving similar trade packages.

  • @MrPromech
    @MrPromech Рік тому

    Would a Gobert for Ben Simmons trade be out of the question? Instead of getting out of KAT trying to move the Defensive anchor from a center to a 4 and giving KAT center again. Simmons has been broken but he could still be salvageable whereas Gobert isn’t broken at all, but he just doesn’t fit.

  • @lowendtheory2304
    @lowendtheory2304 Рік тому

    NO ONE can ever explain what makes KAT valuable to this team. He's in year 8. The franchise has gone absolutely nowhere with KAT. He's not a leader, he won't play defense, he won't play in the post. What everybody was looking for was for Gobert to be a scorer and that's never been what he does. Mike Conley made that move make sense. They didn't have a guard that could run the pick and roll. When you get a player like Edwards, EVERYTHING changes. I'd rather have a seven footer who's going to rebound and defend than one who won't defend and wants to shoot 3s all day. Ship Towns off and get some picks back.

  • @danielrasmussen2167
    @danielrasmussen2167 Рік тому

    JJ with astute analysis as usual. Legs comes out and claims KAT "wanted to move to the 4," implying he pushed for the Gobert trade.
    Uhhhh, you got the receipts on that, Legs? That's a fabrication. When the FO informed KAT of the move, he was on board for moving to the 4. He didn't push for this specific trade so he could change positions.

  • @cugelchannel4733
    @cugelchannel4733 Рік тому

    Tim Connelly left Denver for MN. And his thinking is "how do I prepare the Wolves to stop Jokic and the Nuggets?" Nobody else in the Western conference worried about the Nuggets. Injuries the last 2 years they did nothing in the playoffs, its' all Warriors, Lakers, Suns, Mavs, Clippers, all the teams everybody focused on preseason. But, Connelly is worried about Jokic because he saw Jokic destroy teams and he knows Jokic could last another 10 years in Denver. Even in a game 4 loss to the Suns Jokic scores 53 and that's not a surprise he can do that. And how do you defend Jokic? He gets the best Center defender in the NBA. Does it work? Nobody knows this year because of injuries to KAT, but they have a rising start in ANT they can build the team around, with another season and some assets in trade for KAT, the future is bright for that team with Gobert. Fans may look at that trade in a different light a couple of years from now. As a Nuggets fan I wouldn't rip the Wolves just yet. That's a team that will be better than it is now. Warriors, Lakers, Clippers, Suns will have to rebuild as older stars fade & leave. Kings, Nuggets, Wolves, Pels have young teams with cores under 30 that will only get better.

  • @maqsudlatif3266
    @maqsudlatif3266 Рік тому +1

    Miserably failed to mention Rudy is 3 times DPOY.

  • @318GrandMan
    @318GrandMan Рік тому

    Everybody SHOULD know that they did it because they wanted to mirror what Cleveland did with their 3 big men lineup. Just didn't work for them like that.

  • @ryanmitchell4266
    @ryanmitchell4266 Рік тому

    Gobert at Center, KAT at PF and ANT with the ball SHOULD work. KAT hasn't been able to adjust, AT ALL

  • @paychexx
    @paychexx Рік тому

    The difference between Looney and Gobert, Looney knows his role. Gobert thinks he better than what he is. JJ said it on another pod, the problem is Robert isn't athletic enough to keep up with more versatile 4 or 5 outside the paint. Now the Wolves are stuck with this contract, they won't be able to keep KAT or Ant-Man. Terrible move and it was probably Glen Taylor who told him to do that trade...

  • @OmnipotentSpud
    @OmnipotentSpud Рік тому

    I thought it was a great trade but only because I ASSUMED they wouldn't keep Townes (no motor/kinda meh). They logjammed themselves it's nuts.

  • @emreboga
    @emreboga Рік тому

    Rudy Gobert was the Ben Wallace of Utah. Ok, maybe with a softer touch to score 3 more buckets a game, but that was it. He is valuable only in that system.

  • @JustNate365
    @JustNate365 Рік тому

    Couldve been DLo, Ant, Buddy, Kat and Myles…. Not the greatest team defensively but wouldve been fun to watch.

  • @BIGMOOK04
    @BIGMOOK04 Рік тому

    Anybody that know a little bit about basketball knew it was a horrible trade for a myriad of reasons.....

  • @prestondeters5093
    @prestondeters5093 Рік тому

    Did they overpay? A bit, but Rudy Gobert is the best defensive center in the league. It's understandable why they went after him. Unfortunately, Chris Finch has no idea how to use him. He is one of the best pick and roll centers in the league, one of the best rebounders, and the best defensive center. Quin Snyder figured out how to use him extremely well. Its up to Chris Finch to make it work.

  • @mengiequirante2460
    @mengiequirante2460 9 місяців тому +2

    What do you know months after, wolves are leading right now. 😂 Should be apologizing to RGobert right now… 😅

    • @pimpnamedslickback7780
      @pimpnamedslickback7780 8 місяців тому

      How does that change any of the concerns about long term flexibility

    • @Peter-hz3vs
      @Peter-hz3vs 4 місяці тому

      @@pimpnamedslickback7780Detroit has great flexibility. You take a chance to win. Flexibility means nothing if you can’t get out of playoff first round

  • @1Learn2Swim3
    @1Learn2Swim3 Рік тому

    Danny Ainge is a wizard

  • @Benito722
    @Benito722 Рік тому

    What’s worse the trade or him defending ja? It’s hard to tell.

  • @kylemelendez358
    @kylemelendez358 Рік тому

    I said when this trade happened i think were gonna look at this trade as the worst trade in sports history, not just nba. I believed if they took those very same assets and talked to the nets about KD i dont know if it wouldve gotten done but its deffinantly a discussion and to take that and get Rudy Gobert? Especially when you have Kat already just makes it all the worst. And im not one of those people who think Gobert is trash he is definitely good he is just not THAT GUY to make THAT TRADE for

  • @1017_CK
    @1017_CK Рік тому

    Classic Minnesota sports. When things are going terribly, make no changes. When things start looking upward, completely destroy a good thing with huge, unnecessary changes. If it aint broke, dont fix it?? This town is cursed in the 4 major mens sports leagues.

  • @hello.gumption
    @hello.gumption Рік тому

    Even as a 5 kat has never played like any semblance of a pivot. He's a stretch 4 and a soft one at that. Gobert is not David Robinson and Kat is not Duncan. Im not sure what the T Wolves were thinking.

  • @adamstewart247
    @adamstewart247 Рік тому

    They need to just liquidate Gobert and try to get any asset in return besides Ben Simmons. Keep Kat, Keep Ant and get any decent player for Gobert. I don't know why anyone says to trade Kat? He's clearly the superior player over Gobert and younger

  • @davidarrington4144
    @davidarrington4144 Рік тому

    I think they were trying to copy the blueprint that the Bucks put out with the Giannis/Lopez front court

  • @Cruzaman4040
    @Cruzaman4040 Рік тому +1

    Feel bad for Anthony Edwards

  • @professorzene6949
    @professorzene6949 Рік тому

    As a wolves fan, i can confirm i hate being a wolves fan.

  • @TheVikingbk
    @TheVikingbk Рік тому

    got rid of a few quick players and got REALLY slow. I mean with Towns and Gobert on the court together they are a REALLY slow team.

  • @Wallett
    @Wallett Рік тому

    It’s hard to have faith as a timberwolves fan. It’s more likely that our organization moves then getting to a conference playoff series

  • @iwishyouwould6937
    @iwishyouwould6937 Рік тому

    Love JJ and Legs together. 2 overachievers at everything by nature. Trader Danny put another notch on the one sided trade belt.

  • @ahhchoo8488
    @ahhchoo8488 Рік тому +1

    KAT wanted D'Angelo Russell, it didn't work out. KAT don't want to play center, so they got Gobert. Still didn't work out. Seems like James Harden 2.0 with the Rockets but a worst player.

  • @TheCoconutKidz
    @TheCoconutKidz Рік тому

    Get Rudy on the show!

  • @alexs.9903
    @alexs.9903 Рік тому

    We all knew Minnesota was never going to win anything the moment they decided to get rid of Jimmy Butler. Gonna be a constant play in team with the dumbest amount of cap given to 2 of the least impactful position other than Jokic who at the 4 is a monster on both ends.

  • @hubertsumlin9697
    @hubertsumlin9697 Рік тому

    They could have had Walker Kessler and all their assets if they'd just chilled out. He's a better defender than Rudy. And as fantastic as he is, i feel like Ant is still a couple years away from ALL-IN WIN NOW time.

  • @b-bone7562
    @b-bone7562 Рік тому +3

    Gotta swing big if you wanna win a chip. Didn’t work out but you gotta try something - honest wolves fan

  • @kl2389
    @kl2389 4 місяці тому

    It makes sense now 😂

  • @Ishai1
    @Ishai1 Рік тому

    Gobert is really just a rim protector. That doesn't make him a great defender, he's not adding much value on offense either. If he was a cheap free agent signing it wouldn't be so bad, but they gave up so much to get him and even if it worked with KAT and him, it wouldn't have helped them go anywhere. I've seen him exposed against pick & roll too much.

  • @keltners613
    @keltners613 Рік тому

    they got coach problem. he is great for rebuilding team but bad for a team that have expectations

  • @massimomassi7671
    @massimomassi7671 Рік тому

    Kessler would not be in the starting line-up if Vando was still playing.

  • @manatee_flips6811
    @manatee_flips6811 Рік тому

    Can I make you a quick theme song?

  • @whatudoin1
    @whatudoin1 Рік тому

    nothing but excuses ...Boston plays with AL and Time Lord and it works very well ,it´s up to the coach to find solutions and also sub when the match up is bad . They can play 20 minutes together then have KAT play as a center when Gob is on the bench ...it´s not rocket science ,other teams they had a rim protector like Rudy

  • @jordanmaxwell6382
    @jordanmaxwell6382 Рік тому

    Gotta trade Kat. They can get a good haul for him and improve the team. Anthony Edwards is the future of the team. With Rudy, you can easily trade KAT for a second star and more.

  • @spicyshizz2850
    @spicyshizz2850 Рік тому

    The Front Office needs to be investigated. Who thinks to donate to another franchise?

  • @BrutusJrThe3rd
    @BrutusJrThe3rd Рік тому

    Same bruh. They basically had the same result at the end of the season as the previous year. They could’ve kept those picks & still be mediocre