How Good Would Wilt Chamberlain Be Today?
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- In this video, I talk about how good Wilt Chamberlain would be in today's modern NBA, and if he would be looked at the same if he played in 2022. Let me know what you think in the comments below, and subscribe if you already haven't.
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Hate to break it to ya, but the highest density of HOF centers in a single season was in 1965. Yup, 1965. There were 7 future HOF centers (e.g., Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russell, Walt Bellamy, Nate Thurmond, Zelmo Beaty, Willis Reed, and Wayne Embry) playing in the 1965 season and Wilt had to play each of those HOF centers 8-10 times during the regular season. Yeah, Wilt would kick the crap out of the load management centers in today's NBA.
It's important to note that in the 1971 and 1972 Western Finals, the 34 year old post-knee surgery Wilt outplayed the 24 year old Kareem in the 1971 West Finals, he outplayed Kareem in the final 2 games of the 1972 Western Finals, and he was voted the MVP of the 1972 NBA Finals.
Bingo!
90s. Dikembe, Zo, Admiral, Ewing, Shaq, Hakeem, etc
@@Bluebirdfalling Again...the highest density of HOF centers in a single season was in 1965. In the 65-66 season, the NBA consisted of 9 teams and 7 of those teams had a future HOF center in the paint. In the 95-96 season, the NBA had 29 teams and didn't come close to having the highest density of HOF centers in a single season.
I think Wilt would be higher than 23 ppg in this era when you factor in that Wilt's efficiency would be higher in this era.
51% free throw percentage . . . 😂
We also forget that 60% of Wilt's buckets were fade away jumpers. Unstoppable fadeaway jumpers. Nobody then or now would ever block that shot. He'd dominate today's game as well. He's arguably the best athlete of the 20th century.
Jim Thorpe. But Wilt's up there.
Wilt would be way more dominant in today's game. The league favors offense and who the hell is going to stop him. As far as shooting threes why would he do that when he can feast in the paint. He could average 40 to 50 points per game and still rebound about the same. The only thing in his game that would suffer is his blocks and steals and the NBA didn't count those anyway.
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No possibility of that, none. Easily proven. There was 144 rebounds available in the ave game when Wilt set the rebound record, in 2000 there was 85 rebounds available in the ave game, no way, 100% impossible for Wilt to get 27 rebounds with only 85 available. In 2024 there were 87 rebounds in the ave game. Nor could HE ave 40 pts for the same reason, impossible, fewer shoot attempts and less minutes played in todays NBA.
Wilt could shoot too, his fadeaways were unstoppable.
Wilt would average somewhere between 28-35 today. There’s these things called double teams and zone defense. Let’s not forget a compelling fact, wilt had a 4 year run of averaging a combined 44 points per game, and the league then decided to widen the lane. He immediately went down to 34 ppg in the true plumbers era. The vast majority of his success was the layup or dunk, or really short shots. He had a fadeaway jumper, but that shot wasn’t efficient. Nobody, but nobody is averaging 50 ppg in the modern nba, period. KD is a top 3 all time weapon when it comes to putting the ball in the basket. He averaged 27 this season. Nobody is 23 points per game better than him.
Having seen Wilt play for years, let me say this is the silliest analysis I've ever seen. For example, players putting up more missed shots is NOT a reason why points were higher. Teams didn't play half-court sets. They ran for the most part. Wilt's advantage was that he was faster, jumped higher, and shot from outside the paint using a fadeaway bank shot. There was no defense against him, and not a single current NBA center is the combination of long, strong, and fast that he was.
We have some evidence, playing pick up games atUCLA, he dominated those players.
In his 40s and 50s
Dominic Wilkins said he’d watch Chamberlain bench press, 650 pounds before games Shacks max lift is 450 pounds think about that I don’t know if anybody could stop shack in his prime and he was nowhere near strong as Chamberlain!
13 teams. 12 players each. 156 spots, not 30 x 15-20 like today, or 450-500 spots available. No centers? Russell, Thurmond, Unseld, Reed, Kareem, Cowens, Lanier, Bellamy, so today we have better centers? You can look those guys up in the same place I did, The HOF. You let me know when you have two centers that are high jump champions, since then. I suggest you do a bit more research as to the quality of the competition, and Wilts abilities. Your selling Wilt way short.
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There were 11 a team until the 90s.
Homie is like "Giannis can only play 30 odd minutes a game, so Wilt can't do 45 anymore ...because reasons".
wilt would domiante today. yes. in fact the three point line thing. wilt was known to have been seen making 20/25 baskets from half court in practice, there is a video of him making 4 three pointers in a row (i mean it wasn' a three point line but he was standing at the edge of the court paralell to the basket which is the hardest one to make) on a 5 dollar bet. someone recently said that he actaully had 10 in a row before the video een started so yeah there was noone defending im but that shows he had the skill to also be a three point shooter. not to mention he never fouled out of a game in 13 years in an era where they called a lot of offensive fouls. plus he would have the access to modern doctors, travel , diet , shoes, etc... and knowledge, they were allowed to double hand check in his day, and was often triple teame . so yes wilt would dominate today just fine
I seen the film you’re talking about as well, but you’re actually wrong about the “never fouled out of a game” part. In 1962 he played every minute (48 minutes) in every game of the season EXCEPT for the last 6-7 minutes of the last game of the regular season he got a second tech and was fouled out.
@@Ginamy72 i am not wrong. i know wha tyou are talking about. he got THROWN OUT of the game. not fouled out. why he got thrown out, not sure. he probably behaved in a way tha tpissed the refs off. but that is not fouling out
@@Johnadams20760 oh well either way he still didn’t play the entire season which was a bummer. Ejected = thrown out and fouled out to me. All means the same thing when you’re no longer there to help you let team, right?
@@Ginamy72 fouling out menas you have 6 fouls. i am guessing maybe he had 3, i don't think he knew he was going to get thrown out. it is very diffrent. but still h eplayed 48.5 minutes per game. for 79-80 games or whtever it is. that means ouside 8 minutes of one game which is not even that much still played 42 mnuntes. he literally never sat out even 1 seconds o the entire year including over time. tha tis insane
@@Johnadams20760 82 games
28 &14reb on a off night.Equivalent to Embiid offensively,minus the free-throw shooting.And would certainly lead the league in rebounds,decisively.
Not really, Wilt got about 19% of all the rebounds available, Shaq was right there and Rodman blows that away. Rodman holds all the records for percent of rebounds available. Wilt only got that many because all the rebounds available back then that many are not available today.
@mikemasters4382
NBA only tracked this stat starting in 1970. Where did you get the 19% value for Wilt? Point me to the database you found to make this statement.
@@Mik-xq2co If teams averaged 70 or so re's per game and Wilt averaged over 25 or so, that's 36% or 2ble Mike's claim. And Rodman's not outrebounding Wilt.
There might have not been many 7 footers when he started, but several came along after 3 or 4 years into his career. In his prime he was a human cheat code. After his prime he still was, not quite as fast, but still fast enough, with no loss of strength. I don't have to watch all of this to know he would dominate any time period. If he could have ran over defenses, like O'Neal, which I am glad the game was officiated much better, back then, there would be no viable argument against him being the greatest, by far. He averaged 40 ppg and over 20 rebounds per game, all of his first 6 seasons, anyway. I don't believe he would have played like that, even if allowed to, unless somebody made him mad.
I agree that today's game is different and Wilt would not be able to match the ridiculous numbers he did in his first several years, especially rebounds, since there are far fewer shots now. But there's one other difference in today's game and that is watching idiots yell and beat their chest when they throw a dunk down on someone. Today's players might get away with doing that once to Wilt (if they were able to dunk over him, which wouldn't be easy). It would be very unwise to try it a 2nd time. Wilt was an even tempered guy most the time on the court but he was not a guy you wanted to rile up. My bottom line, Wilt would dominate any era he played in. How many of the centers on the 29 other teams today could even slow him down?
A world-class athlete. You figure it out. Ask Connie Hawkins what Wilt did when his shot was blocked once in a Rucker game between Philly and NY.. Next 11 times down, dunked every way possible. A stronger, more skilled and athletic Shaq.
I believe that the greatest players in basketball would've been great regardless of era for the most part. Wilt's numbers were so outrageous because he was like a modern elite big playing in an earlier era. To me that provokes the question "how did such physical prowess actually exist back in that day and what would he have looked like if he played in this era with the current advancements in fitness? He was simply a freak of nature. The physical measurables and post skills he had back then still translates into an MVP caliber player in today's game in my opinion. I've watched enough clips of him to be convinced that he would be a stud in any era. He might not have the same ridiculous per game averages but he would be one of the best players in the game year in and out in any era and would probably still be widely considered as one of the best to ever do it when it's said and done. The size, wing-span, vertical ability, speed, strength, athleticism, and post skills are all undeniable.
He would be unbelievable
Wilt Chamberlain would be a superstar/hall of famer no doubt. I’m not going to say he was just the best as everything ever, but the man is my goat. Damn near everything about him sounds like a fairytale but I mean hey there have been taller people, and his strength sounds absurd, but when people like Andre the Giant exist and we’re about as strong it makes sense.
He said in the video he thinks Wilt would average Giannis-like stats. I think this is an understatement. He would most undoubtedly average AT LEAST 20 rpg probably over his career. Now I would expect him to stay healthier but still play around 14-17 years as a top 10 player for 10 years. Sounds reasonable enough to me, the man is basically an alien 👽.
So yeah that’s my opinion, I won’t appreciate any hate, but I will respect opinions. Have a good day
Talking about wilt average 20 rebounds, laugh,laugh,, scoring maybe 35points average games, wilt would've learn new low 📫 post scoring points moves like tornado 🌪 or wheeling toward the basket 🧺 unstoppable
Wilt would dominate today . World class track athlete in multiple events. Led league in points many times rebounding almost every year and one year in assists. If blocks and steals were a stat in Wilt’s era we would be talking quadruple doubles
🎉Average , 46 points, 20+ rebounds, 10+ assists, 10+ blocks
He would be a top 5 player in the NBA, maybe the MVP. Imagine a high-scoring 2-way big with the speed and agility to be a giant wing. Comparable to a super-sized Giannis.
In wilts time there were no videos or centers he could learn from or emmulate. If he were coming into nba today, he would have access to 50 years of basketball videos to study, TV, and cable to watch games and study 50 plus years of basketball progress from the 50s! Better training, shoes, trainers, and way more money. If he was lifting 500 lbs back then he would probably lift 600 lbs today plus he was a track and field athlete that competed against world class competition. What center today could claim that,,,,none I'll bet. Like Rick Barry said "he would be so much better today"! I'm 75 years old and I've seen a few things! Wilt was the only man I've seen catch jump shots and hooks out of mid air! Who else have you seen do that? Plus, he'll be allowed to carry and palm the ball like they do today and travel also he will not be assaulted and litterrally mugged in games like it use to be! Basically if he was a beast playing back then imagine what he would do into day game!
The 1970s IS modern basketball 🏀 he would kick tail today too
First, If players today play much less minutes than Wilt, they should be much more rested. Wilt continued to put up huge numbers while playing tired. The 3 point shot has to be factored in to compare eras. Curry would not have scored as many points with no 3 point line. Not even close. And, does height automatically mean dominance. Charles Barley led the league in rebounding at 6 foot 5. Rodman led the league at 6'9. M. Malone led the league at 6'10. Rebounding and blocking shots is a skill. When it comes to scoring, rebounding, blocking shots, Wilt was the best of all time in all 3 categories. . He even led the league in assists 1 year. If he played today, ( not 50 and 25 rebounds) Probably 44 and 20 . If Wilt played today, He would still be BY FAR the best player in the league.
Hi. If wilt was playing today he would average 70 if he got the ball. The NBA today is so watered down not with so many teams that there would be no one who could do anything with him. That is why most of the guys playing today would have a lot of trouble playing then.
If he played less minutes , he would be fresher and more dominating. Since his competition was less, he didn’t have to work as hard and at times, maybe was complacent. It’s impossible to say how good he would be today but he was a track star in college, weight lifted absurd amounts and was an all star type volley ball star. I just don’t feel that any other basketball star was or is in his league!!!!
What centers today would stop him? These none athletic, boney lanky centers nowdays would get dominated by Wilt. Rudy Gobert vs Wilt? c'mon In the 90s where there were more HOF centers than ever in league history, would be a different story.
Shaq is a fat man compared to Wilt. The NBA changed and introduced rules to stop Wilt's dominance. There is no one, including MJ, Shaq, or LeBron, can say that. Most of the rule changes in the modern game are to encourage scoring, same as football. I'm 77. Have seen most of them except the first 11 years of the league. I don't watch NBA or NFL anymore because of the focus on protecting the high scorers.
He is also one of only a few who ever blocked a Kareem sky hook and once did it twice in the same possession.
Comparing athletes from different eras not very possible. Nowadays they receive much better training, money and support.
Correct, and imagine what Wilt could have been with those advantages! He got tired of playing near the bucket all day and being told he didn't help his teammates much so the next year he led the league in assists. Clearly the GOAT in my book and I have watched him and Russell as well as every great one since that time.
What current player in today’s game could handle Wilt? Same answer as it was in the 1960’s, no one!
He’d be a far more athletic and stronger version of Jokic.
Nicely done, but you "punish" Wilt for playing 46 minutes a game. One season he played every minute of every game. Do you think anyone today could do that? Heck no. If Wilt was forced to rest for 8 minutes, then he would be fresh.
Wilt would still be a starter possible Allstar today . . .But Wilt couldn't bench 650lbs.
Bull Russell was highjump/long jump champ. (He could jump too. . .But not through the roof) .
He would awesome...period..no hand checking..SAY WHAT!!!!!!
The league is so soft now ! All they can do is slam dunk and shoot the 3's! No defense no rules travel shuffle their feet carry the ball palm the ball! I used to love watching the NBA years ago,! Travel how many steps do they get 4 5 6 who knows give them a suit case! 😂! NBA sucks! 🤮🤮💤💤
He'd make joker look like a joke
I wonder how many kids he has running around out there
Wilt's 30 ppg was because of 2nd 1/2 of career injuries and being asked to shoot less. Had he been healthier and mirored his first 7 seasons his PPG would have been near 40, and you cannot just extrapolate mins played up or down. A person who averages 10 ppg in 20 mins per night is bot necessarily gonna get 15 in 30. They may likely be in their sweet spot and their per min production wd go down cuz of load mgmt. And Wilt wd have destroyed Giannis, who's more like Russell.
To compare a foreign player to the great Wilt Chamberlain is utterly ridiculous. Well put together clip , although from a basketball perspective is severely off base. Become more scientific and use EVERY component to make a factual analysis.
Can any of Today’s big men run 1/2 mile in under 2 mins ? I don’t think so high jump 7 feet I don’t think so ! Have u seen this man obviously not enough u r screwing him buu is t time ! B American anyone who could stop him today! Russell did because he had 5-6 hall of famers ! Today’s Game he plays say 36-40 mins I think 40 points 20 rebounds 4-8 assists!Have u seen that fade Away of his unstoppable! Plus what was his field goal percentage exactly ? Way better than anyone else’s ever including the most overhyped player in history MJ Wilt would of destroyed him & if he came into the paint good luck MJ he’s a better Athlete than u
Dominic Wilkins said he watched wilt bench 650 pounds before games
Forgot about Blocks he averaged 8 a game & we go crazy if a guy gets 4 or 5
This analysis lack so much details.. really Wilt will have stats similar to Giannis?
Do remember that Wilt is nothing like Giannis.. Wilt was a superios playmaker and defender.. the way Wilt Hustles in defense is on another level.. I've never scene a center that would jump out of the court just to get a rebound like Dennis Rodman and I've never scene a player that leads the assist.. a stats that is very uncommonly made by centers just to prove a point..
The great Chuck Taylors. Lasted me 6 weeks, then the soles would crack. 10.00 Adidas were 30.00 but lasted about 3 months. Then a resole, only one, for about 15.00.
It's so funny trolls don't get what incredible athletes were in basketball in Wilt's and Russell's time.
He would basically be Giannis if not better.
I think that Curry is the greatest shooter of all time. But he would be a bum prior to the 3 point line. Players adapt to what?
BS the players back then were the same height a 6 ft. 11 guy would be 7ft 1 today measured in shoes the average is only 1 inch shorter but that can be explained cause they measured them barefoot.
The third pick? WTF?
Wilt was to soft, lazy, no killer instinct and sucked In big playoff games, only 2 rings compared to King Bill Russell’s 11, F Wilt!
The same as then. Better than everybody
Goat
Bull. Like you said the teams had 6-11 & 6-10 centers. Those heights are good enough to go against Wilt 7-1
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