love my satori, its a shooter. thanks for the tuning info Fred, look forward to more. Always enjoy your presentations.I wish more dealers and hunters in my region were into trad. I have not shot my wheelie in 3 years.
I needed one small part from Hoyt...might have been 10$ with shipping.Jumped through ALL their hoops,still no joy.Ended up having to make it myself.Great product,decent engineering but,absolutely lame brained customer service!You have been warned.
Well, after that i think i will buy a satori, i already have a hoyt buffalo because the movie hunger games and i love this bow it's like a buffalo horns, a samurai sword on hand the design is awesome. ...and i have a hoyt ignite too.
If you are an absolute novice! How do you know where your tiler should be???? I am sooo... disappointed with all my archery shops that I've visited and never bothered to help acutely tune. And say, its all a learning curve
For whatever reason the factory plastic grip on the Hoyt Satori seems to be causing me to get a nasty blister on my right thumb knuckle at the base of the joint. Any suggestions of what to do? Seems to be a flawed design which forces your hand into a high grip position and causes your knuckle to grind underneath the bottom of the plastic grip.
Looks very similar to the buffalo which is about as noisy as a bow can be. If your draw is more than 30 " no amount of string silencers or large 8.5" brace height will take the twang out. Sounds like a dry fire. Heads will turn at a range, that loud really. My Hoyt Gamemaster was the same. If you let someone with a 29-30" draw shoot it , its not bad but 31" draw sounds like a dry fire
Eric Baumgartner Try Bodnik bows germany. Ok, they are lightweight, but smooth to draw, strong on the shoot and very silent. My Mowhawk feels like silk and shoots like a rocket, accurate and fine. Find a bearpaw dealer and try it out! ...if you like light weight wooden bows😉.
Thanks for the advice, i have had a Bodnik but they are so light in the hand that i cant shoot them well. Bought an inexpensive Chinese made black hunter and it shoots fantastic and is heavy enough to be stable in the hand. Also the Bodnik slick stick i had needed to have the limb tips sanded out to allow for a 31" draw. The sharp edge would eat the string loop in a week if not altered. If you get a chance to try the black hunter and compare with the mowhawk you be very impressed for less than half the price.
It sounds to me like you needed to adjust tiller. I've shot several buffaloes and once the tiller was adjusted for my crawl, it was as quiet as anything else out there besides a one piece longbow.
One issue I have with the Satori, is that you the plate does not allow for a true center shot. I have a set of Hex limbs, ua-cam.com/video/hfZaRoZvYAM/v-deo.html and those limbs actually prefer to be shot directly down the center, and unlike an Olympic bow that prefers the point be set just outside the string, I have to remove the plate and set up my own (round furniture felt pad). Those spacers are useless in this respect. What I'm trying to point out, is that the side plate should have been set to allow true center shot to start. I've tried sanding the back side of the plate to bring it down to center, but it's crazy annoying to have to modify the equipment like that. Only wish the Hoyt folks could provide an option for a truly center allow side plate. Wishful thinking?
Hey Boys, I purchased a buffalo at a huge $1100 Australian. It is the worst experience I ever wasted money on. It’s loud, the finish is poor, the string was to short and the wood grip didn’t fit flush. The cost for different limbs is outrageous. I emailed Hoyt and they didn’t give a stuff. So boys what is the chances of me purchasing that bow?????? Well it’s zero. All Hoyt has done is change from that stupid formula design to ILF. And Fred try to relax, your not the engineer, your talking to your audience like we are all stupid. Regards Robert. Greetings from Australia.
Hi, also from Australia. I’ve got a collection of four buffalos and four satoris in every combination so I’m very confident in my opinion on this topic, I also have a large collection of other bows from different companies. Honestly the price isn’t that expensive for an American made bow with this level of adjustability. Any other American-made bow in this class cost the same if not more. The finish is perfectly acceptable especially the Maple limbs and the powder coat is very durable. There is a world of difference between the Buffalo and the Satori. Buffalo -only shoot from the shelf -formula dovetail -zero Limb pocket adjustability -only one size 19 inch riser -no quiver/sight mount on the side Satori -shelf or Flipper rest -ilf pockets -limb pocket left to right -three different size rises -drilled mounting holes Completely different bows and I think the satoris finish has improved over the buffalo. The bow is no more noisier than any other bow, you need some common sense and know how to be able to tune it. Even the win-win black wolf needs tuning to reduce noise and I found it to be much louder I honestly think this is why Hoyt didn’t take you seriously, what you’re saying doesn’t make any sense.
Hoyt doesn't just throw a bow out there? But they SURE cut bows out! NOW... NO Gamemaster.... NO Darado... NO Tiburon!!! It's their way or the highway. Satori or NOTHING. One thing about this bow that's good.... ILF limbs! Hoyt has good stuff... but they need to make... different grips for this bow, maybe a low, med. and high grip like they do for their target recurves. Oh, and why not make a riser that will accept the target recurve grips they ALREADY make? With my experience with the Tiburon... only 1 grip available .... Can you purchase the new style side plate from Hoyt... by itself??? That should be available too as a purchase-able part. At least this bow does come in the different riser lengths. Doubt if I will ever buy one.
Was ILF not that popular when this video was made? The way they discuss it here is like nobody knows how it works. Sorry for asking the question...I only started archery 3 months ago.
Eric Tycksen 19”, the 17” has two small holes on top and one small hole on the bottom, 19” has two small on top and one large one bottom, 21” three small on top and two large on bottom.
What the crap is going on.I cant find a wood grip for my satori anywhere. Ive had it for a couple of years and still nothing avalable.Anyone know someone who makes them.
@@joshuawilliams194 Found a solution.I ordered the TBOW wooden grip of ebay as its the satori knock of. I hate the look and fell of the composite handle.
I wasn't going to say this but the engineer who engineered this bow actually gave Eichler credit and said if it wasn't for him the bow wouldn't be what it is which blew me away because Eichler can't even measure why would an engineer have somebody who can't even measure help him engineer and Olympic style bow who in the hell says 2/8ths & 4/8ths lmmfao who measures anything like that lol c'mon man lol couldn't have done it without ya lol !
Probably because it's a hunting bow and Fred is a traditional bow hunter... he didn't need another engineer to help design it he needed the guy that's going to actually use it
love my satori, its a shooter. thanks for the tuning info Fred, look forward to more. Always enjoy your presentations.I wish more dealers and hunters in my region were into trad. I have not shot my wheelie in 3 years.
I am getting mine tomorrow 🎉🎉🎉🎉
A factory center line would add to the design of the bow.... just a thought.
I needed one small part from Hoyt...might have been 10$ with shipping.Jumped through ALL their hoops,still no joy.Ended up having to make it myself.Great product,decent engineering but,absolutely lame brained customer service!You have been warned.
Shot one of these a few times recently. Extremely nice shooting bow.
What about the cost…?
Thank You.
Well, after that i think i will buy a satori, i already have a hoyt buffalo because the movie hunger games and i love this bow it's like a buffalo horns, a samurai sword on hand the design is awesome. ...and i have a hoyt ignite too.
LOVE my Satori got the 17" riser and medium limbs. What a fast bow! Im in TRAD heaven
Man I'm so ready to get mine in.
I just threw on a set of black wolf limbs.So much smoother than the hoyt limbs that came with it and dam fast 210fps 515 grain arrows.
If you are an absolute novice! How do you know where your tiler should be????
I am sooo... disappointed with all my archery shops that I've visited and never bothered to help acutely tune.
And say, its all a learning curve
For whatever reason the factory plastic grip on the Hoyt Satori seems to be causing me to get a nasty blister on my right thumb knuckle at the base of the joint. Any suggestions of what to do? Seems to be a flawed design which forces your hand into a high grip position and causes your knuckle to grind underneath the bottom of the plastic grip.
Hoyt customers : We want the buffalo
Hoyt if your listening bring back the excels.
Be nice to see another compound for fingers
Why are there no videos on this bow except, the owner pushing the sale of his product
my set screw for my tiller isnt a allen i thought it was a torq but its not that either.
You should have ironed the sweatshirt Fred wore during this video, looks like you took it just off the shelf. Lol I still love my Hoyt Buffalo.
Flag on the play. Man card in question. 10 yrd penalty. Repeat 1st down.
Looks very similar to the buffalo which is about as noisy as a bow can be. If your draw is more than 30 " no amount of string silencers or large 8.5" brace height will take the twang out. Sounds like a dry fire. Heads will turn at a range, that loud really. My Hoyt Gamemaster was the same. If you let someone with a 29-30" draw shoot it , its not bad but 31" draw sounds like a dry fire
Eric Baumgartner Try Bodnik bows germany. Ok, they are lightweight, but smooth to draw, strong on the shoot and very silent. My Mowhawk feels like silk and shoots like a rocket, accurate and fine. Find a bearpaw dealer and try it out! ...if you like light weight wooden bows😉.
Thanks for the advice, i have had a Bodnik but they are so light in the hand that i cant shoot them well. Bought an inexpensive Chinese made black hunter and it shoots fantastic and is heavy enough to be stable in the hand. Also the Bodnik slick stick i had needed to have the limb tips sanded out to allow for a 31" draw. The sharp edge would eat the string loop in a week if not altered. If you get a chance to try the black hunter and compare with the mowhawk you be very impressed for less than half the price.
It sounds to me like you needed to adjust tiller. I've shot several buffaloes and once the tiller was adjusted for my crawl, it was as quiet as anything else out there besides a one piece longbow.
Do you draw it back 31" ? Thats where the problem starts. Up to 29-30 " is fine.
lol. Because you already reach maximum draw length.. if u still want to draw much longer then u gonna need a new & longer limbs
What is the lowest gpp that the 65lb bow can go? I also use my 65lb satori to do target shooting and people tend to shoot light arrows there.
One issue I have with the Satori, is that you the plate does not allow for a true center shot.
I have a set of Hex limbs, ua-cam.com/video/hfZaRoZvYAM/v-deo.html
and those limbs actually prefer to be shot directly down the center, and unlike an Olympic bow that prefers the point be set just outside the string, I have to remove the plate and set up my own (round furniture felt pad). Those spacers are useless in this respect.
What I'm trying to point out, is that the side plate should have been set to allow true center shot to start.
I've tried sanding the back side of the plate to bring it down to center, but it's crazy annoying to have to modify the equipment like that.
Only wish the Hoyt folks could provide an option for a truly center allow side plate. Wishful thinking?
Can anyone tell me what the cost of this bow with the longest riser made cost? Don Powell, Tyler,Texas
Don Powell around 700 hundred ,
Saw what😢
When is the Carbon Satori coming out??
Hey Boys, I purchased a buffalo at a huge $1100 Australian. It is the worst experience I ever wasted money on. It’s loud, the finish is poor, the string was to short and the wood grip didn’t fit flush. The cost for different limbs is outrageous. I emailed Hoyt and they didn’t give a stuff. So boys what is the chances of me purchasing that bow?????? Well it’s zero. All Hoyt has done is change from that stupid formula design to ILF. And Fred try to relax, your not the engineer, your talking to your audience like we are all stupid. Regards Robert. Greetings from Australia.
Hi, also from Australia. I’ve got a collection of four buffalos and four satoris in every combination so I’m very confident in my opinion on this topic, I also have a large collection of other bows from different companies.
Honestly the price isn’t that expensive for an American made bow with this level of adjustability. Any other American-made bow in this class cost the same if not more.
The finish is perfectly acceptable especially the Maple limbs and the powder coat is very durable.
There is a world of difference between the Buffalo and the Satori.
Buffalo
-only shoot from the shelf
-formula dovetail
-zero Limb pocket adjustability
-only one size 19 inch riser
-no quiver/sight mount on the side
Satori
-shelf or Flipper rest
-ilf pockets
-limb pocket left to right
-three different size rises
-drilled mounting holes
Completely different bows and I think the satoris finish has improved over the buffalo.
The bow is no more noisier than any other bow, you need some common sense and know how to be able to tune it. Even the win-win black wolf needs tuning to reduce noise and I found it to be much louder
I honestly think this is why Hoyt didn’t take you seriously, what you’re saying doesn’t make any sense.
So its possible to change tiller while the bow is strung?
What would be the fastest fps setup, and what would be the slower fps setup?
Can you add an olympic style visor to it?
Just got mine today
How do you like it after 8 months?
Site pode compra as lâminas
Where do we go to ask questions?
Can you use a darcron string on this satori ?
Hoyt doesn't just throw a bow out there? But they SURE cut bows out! NOW... NO Gamemaster.... NO Darado... NO Tiburon!!!
It's their way or the highway. Satori or NOTHING. One thing about this bow that's good.... ILF limbs! Hoyt has good stuff... but they need to make... different grips for this bow, maybe a low, med. and high grip like they do for their target recurves. Oh, and why not make a riser that will accept the target recurve grips they ALREADY make? With my experience with the Tiburon... only 1 grip available .... Can you purchase the new style side plate from Hoyt... by itself??? That should be available too as a purchase-able part. At least this bow does come in the different riser lengths. Doubt if I will ever buy one.
It got bushing for 2 piece quiver
Was ILF not that popular when this video was made? The way they discuss it here is like nobody knows how it works. Sorry for asking the question...I only started archery 3 months ago.
What size riser is that?
Eric Tycksen 19”, the 17” has two small holes on top and one small hole on the bottom, 19” has two small on top and one large one bottom, 21” three small on top and two large on bottom.
This dudes a hell of an old school salesman haha
What the crap is going on.I cant find a wood grip for my satori anywhere. Ive had it for a couple of years and still nothing avalable.Anyone know someone who makes them.
Same here. The new ones have black handle. I want the brown wooden one to.
@@joshuawilliams194 Found a solution.I ordered the TBOW wooden grip of ebay as its the satori knock of. I hate the look and fell of the composite handle.
Thanks man. Im bout to check ebay now. I always like wooden handles better too. Even on Compound bow.
@@huntinglife5202 I have owned a junxing H1 september 2016, [taow] egg or chicken?
Just give me back the buffalo
Hello, as a beginner im looking for a good Takedown bow for hunting and survival, do you recommend this?
Nice vid. edit it down to half the time to make it better.
Bring back the game master
Tenho um arco hoyt usa vendo por R$1000 reias e um arco composto
Лично для меня ХОЙТ это ТОЛЬКО БЛОЧНЫЕ ЛУКИ.
I wasn't going to say this but the engineer who engineered this bow actually gave Eichler credit and said if it wasn't for him the bow wouldn't be what it is which blew me away because Eichler can't even measure why would an engineer have somebody who can't even measure help him engineer and Olympic style bow who in the hell says 2/8ths & 4/8ths lmmfao who measures anything like that lol c'mon man lol couldn't have done it without ya lol !
Jeremiah Meachum he likes to work with 8ths.
This coming from a man who can't use a period.
Probably because it's a hunting bow and Fred is a traditional bow hunter... he didn't need another engineer to help design it he needed the guy that's going to actually use it
It’s a fucking ilf bow it’s nothing new despite what this over exita
too bad this color doesn't even exist =D black risers... meh...
I sure can't afford 600 + dollars for a recurve .
Great Bow the Grip is Horrible
The only thing wrong about the riser is this average joe`s signature...
Metin Gurbuz Fred is a very accomplished bow hunter... idk what your on about
I'm first