Unpopular opinion, laced with facts. You can't be Alpha and woke at the same time. All Alpha Men are an ass kicking away from being Beta. I would pay my hard earned money to watch Andrew Tate lose his alpha status and be humbled on live PPV.
I honestly feel bad for the Alpha Bro types. I had a contentious relationship with my dad and I bottled up a lot of anger and pain. I decided once I went to college to stop holding onto trying to be my Dad’s view of what I should be. Love with always trump materialism and womanizing for me. For me it doesn’t add anything to my life of substance.
Hi Shannon, I just wanted to say that to me you're a role model in a way that rises way above the stuff like alpha-beta conversation. I'm in my early 20s and lot of your experiences with women sound similar to mine. Also never understood the alpha stuff so I guess it's not just generational. Makes me so happy that the guy who makes the best hockey content also happens to be an absolute inspiration as a person ❤
I never got the manly/Alpha stuff either, I might have had some gender dysphoria potentially caused by these categorization of males as I never was gay but I also got called that and I never understood fellow males in K-12 school so I was the only guy in the girl group for the long haul, and I also liked shopping, so it’s interesting to see some similarities and perhaps provide me some guidance too as I don’t have to struggle to change myself. I really don’t believe in Alphas and Betas either, and I agree with you on the daring stuff as I am the cautious type. I’d rather live to when I qualify for senior discounts than risk my life. Thanks for this video! It’s nice to not feel pressured now!
Even as a hockey fan, these are my favorite videos of yours. Get Ramblin Shannon going on an issue and it's always just filled to the brim with frankness and humor and little tidbits of your personal life. I really enjoyed your time flies video as well, despite the existential dread it gave me.
In regards to the topic, I tell myself this: Want to be Alpha? 1. Stop being caught up on being 'Alpha'. 2. Be comfortable and in tune with yourself. 3. Be phsyically fit (but don't take it too far like fake "alphas"). 4. Be successful (I'm not yet). 5. Do the things that are hard, rare, or not seen as 'masculine' (Example: us men going to therapy).
That self-awareness you have, I'd call that successful. I'm getting into values based living instead of the goal based living we're "supposed" to follow.
someone who follows their passion and made a living out of it and has fans all over the world. your channel is one of the few things keeping me interested in hockey anymore. a true alpha in my book
Does anyone else feel behind in life? Cause I do. I’m 24 years old but I feel like I’m not. Cause I see people I know that are my age or younger that have a family or a great life or own a house. And I still live at home. I feel like I’m a waste. I bust my ass everyday everyday but I feel like I’m stuck.
This is super relatable. I'm almost 26, about to graduate from law school. I see people my age with high-paying jobs, houses, and families. Meanwhile, I'm grinding but not actually getting anywhere.
@@MOOSEPRIME98 100% I feel that, it sucks. Lately, I've really started focusing on myself and things I can control like getting in shape, practising my hobbies, learning about things that interest me etc. Its definitely helped me a lot mentally.
I’m 31 and still figuring things out. It doesn’t always feel great not to be where you want.. but focusing on what other people are doing. Focus on the people that matter in your daily life the best you can, not what you see on social media. I’m trying to practice what I’m preaching myself. Just do your best and keep your head up. You’re worth everything and important in this world regardless of where you feel you are in life right now.
Moose don’t worry you are still so young. You have your whole life ahead of you. My son gets sad watching Facebook and watches it as little as possible as it is depressing. Do your own thing, do street hockey or say pickleball but don’t worry. You are going to succeed 😊
Sounds like your dad and my dad should have gotten together and gone bowling. I was born 7 years after you, but I had a similar upbringing. In the church. My dad was deeply religious but didn’t drink as far as I knew, but he really didn’t need to. Somehow, food got thrown across the kitchen anyway, if it was spaghetti or he didn’t get tea with dinner. It took her years to leave him. She passed away this past July from nonalcoholic liver disease. My dad died in 2019, right before COVID. I was the disabled guy with ADD who was always socially awkward and my one long term relationship was a girl I met over the internet and it didn’t work partly because I’m inadequate as well as the fact that my dad and his family tend to be a little, or a lot, racist. He called her parents a slur the first time he met them. I haven’t been able to ask a lady out since. And being disabled, I have physical limitations. Walking long distances isn’t my thing. But this is my long winded way of saying that the years I’ve followed your channels have gotten me through some really dark times and sometimes it’s the only thing that gets me out of bed in the morning. So thank you for all that you do.
Shannon you were already my favourite youtuber as THG. Now I started watching more and more TEG videos, stumbled across this one today and you're an alpha in my books. Respect, compassion, values, are true characteristics, not money, muscles, or "ability to pull bitches". Unbelievable human being you are 👏
I think the danger with these type of conversations (just like with women) is (unintentionally or not) you can either try fitting into toxic masculinity behaviours or, conversely, having the "not like other guys" syndrome (of course building off the "not like other girls" phenomena. There is an overwhelming tendency (in things like the manosphere or female dating strategy movements, etc.) to generalize how most men behave, how most women behave and even reverse snobbery where you think (again) that you're unique or not capable of the toxic elements of gender simply because you feel you don't identify (on paper) with being an "alpha" for example. The number one thing is to consistently evaluate, challenge, and compare yourself to yourself and be aware of how you think and act because the most dangerous thing is thinking because you feel you're a certain way (i.e a "good guy/girl"), you are incapable of acting the way the bad ones do and there are a litany of examples (especially with the #MeToo movement) where people whom people thought never in a million years would be capable of doing stuff end up being the ones who end up doing stuff.
Love this channel man! I feel like i grew into a real adult on this channel. I think i started watching in 2017-2018. I was 23 then and now im 28 and have been working full time almost 3 years Keep up the great work on both channels
Told my son when he was born that he might not be the biggest fish in the sea but he doesn't swim with the minnows... basically stop comparing yourself to others... there's always going to be bigger, smarter, faster, funnier, better looking etc... if you truly get caught up in that crap you're not focusing on yourself
The alpha beta thing came from a guy, Mech I think, researching wolves in captivity. When he observed in the wild he realised it was not what they do naturally, the alpha males and females were simply the dad and mom. Even though he corrected his mistake it still exists as a thing for some reason. Sad, a simple misunderstanding has lead to so many ruined lives. Thanks for the interesting video.
Artificial penises are big money for fake alpha's - guns, big trucks, fast cars, hot bimbo(goldigger/groupie) women, big juiced muscles all to make you feel that everyone sees you as being a man. Reality check - if you need something else to make you feel like a "man" then you aren't a real "alpha" as true alpha's don't need validation of their supposed "manliness". If you think showing off the big trucks or fast women make you look like an "alpha" you're just a gullible fool being fleeced for a real alpha's profits. The real alpha's take charge and run society they don't waste all their time showing off and bragging about their manliness to validate their precious delicate little feelings of masculinity.
I don't see many 'alphas' taking charge of anything these days. The whole things a fallacy mischaracterizing the behavior of a lead wolf and the rest of the pack. The spirit behind the idea of being a mensch is a loftier goal.
@@Fatazz - I agree they're not as common as some think and many perceived alpha's are just psychopaths(thin line really) but there are definitely many still out there especially in corporate management and military/security fields. I loosely know 1 true alpha myself and he always impresses me - went to a restaurant once where he was there with another group and my group had it's reservations screwed up and the hostess was panicking a bit trying to figure out how to fix it and he just walked over and politely but authoritatively took control and calmed her down and told her how to fix it and 2 minutes later everything was good and the hostess and her manager who showed up were both thanking him. Usually telling others how to do their jobs doesn't go well but true alpha's know how to take charge without swinging their ego-penises around and they get shit done without upsetting or disrespecting anyone. They are rare to come across but true alpha's are actually very valuable to society, the wannabe alpha's are dangerous though.
Hey Shannon, from the sounds of it, you seem demisexual. Us male Demis are pretty rare in the wild. You aren’t weird for needing an emotional connection first. It’s what makes us, us.
I think every guy is "alpha" sometimes and sometimes isn't. Is anyone really any one thing all the time? You're pretty much "everyman" I'd say, like the rest of us. You've got the love of a good woman man! Don't worry, be happy!
Hey Shannon, I tend to agree I hate the beta vs alpha thing it makes me cringe. On what basis should a person (generally directed towards men) be judged whether they are an alpha? Imo it can be athletic ability, success with women, happiness with one’s life/activities, career success, even ability to fight, social prowess. I hate it when people are put into boxes, every single one of us is unique and shouldn’t be so hard on ourselves. Any time someone tries to label me and put me in a box whatever it may be, I tend to think there’s a lot more to life and existence that these type people can’t even begin to fathom.
get the feeling that most straight men don't really care to be "categorized", which is why there's only Alpha & Beta. sure, some want to be identified as Alpha, because it's a buzz word & feeds into this notion of being THE MAN, but i think most straight men just want to be categorized as "individuals"... but that's just my opinion, i could be wrong
The thing is alpha vs beta is all about discovering your masculinity Now u could say getting bit by lizard is alpha, or is alpha not letting yourself be bitten by lizards, sounds beta?? But it could also be toxic Alpha( think Darwin award)
I am 50 and grew up in The 80's. Alpha is toxic and unrealistic. There was a teacher in my private high school who was the most powerful guy on campus. He was an open homophobe and misogynist. Pompous. I learned to hate folks like that guy. I have Cerebral Palsy. I walk and talk well. But Alpha wannabes have punched down on me all of my life. Being gay in the 80's did not help either. I now know that getting that harassment is more about someone else than it's about me. Even after trauma, I have empathy. Being a man is being a protector and helping others.
Alpha male is not what the stigma implies. If you provide for your family, and women and kids feel secure around you, you're a man. If you make the right choice and not the one that benefits you the most, you're a man. You're a fine man, Shannon.
Being an alpha doesnt mean your a jerk. Yes there are alpha men who are jerks or worse. Being an alpha is all in your mindset. Traits of an alpha male 1. You dont need anyones approval or look for approval.. 2. You walk to the beat of your own drum. 3. You dont blame other people for your problems and admit your mistakes. 4. You chase excellence. 5. You dont care what anyone thinks about you, your mentally tough and strong enough to not have that fear. Beta male traits 1. People pleasers. 2. Demonstrates approval seeking behavior constantly. 3. Will settle for second best. 4. Insecure. 5. Tend to blame others for there failures in life.
There’s one pseudo-intellectual fitness UA-camr that comes to mind who larps as an alpha yet abandoned his wife & kids, moved 4 states away and left them to fend for themselves. Seems ironic.
One last word on manliness( same with feminism) There is the inner world and their is the exterior world, both are equal in value You work on your inner world, working your interactions socially etc the more you work on both, the less toxic men become, the true alpha beta are compatible, with each other regardless of the mix( its rarely 50/50)
When I played wallyball 4 mixed volleyball in a racquetball court or 6 mixed beach volleyball. Now being the best player, superfast, able to see plays before they happen. Now is it alpha being everywhere so fast making incredible plays, or learning to anticipate less and allow my teammates to grow and get better Ah ah what is the true Alpha here?
i feel the same way, never understood the alpha male vs beta male nonsense, as for me it gives off the same vibes as organized religion. With said, I wish UA-cam demonetize those UA-cam channels for actively and unapologetically promoting misogyny and misogynoir.
Soap Operas are funny. They film a thousand episodes a week because they’re basically making a movie a day…but nothing ever happens…well rarely. I have a theory that in Soap Operas there are only like 10 days that they show every year. They’ll start on New Year’s Day and linger on that for like a month. A new unexplained ex-spouse will appear. The next day will be Valentine’s Day. That ex-spouse will provide some bombshell that will ruin the main couple’s date. Valentine’s Day lasts two months. Then we’ll fast forward to Memorial Day because Americans start summer then. The other spouse will see their never before mentioned ex on the beach and feelings will come back. That day lasts a month. Then it’s the 4th of July and the spouse has to fight off those feelings under the cover of fireworks! 4th of July lasts 3 months. Then it’s Fall. The ex couple’s never before mentioned son comes to town for college. He is trouble. He falls in love with his dad’s step niece. Then it’s Halloween for three weeks and they kiss by mistake while in costume. It’s then American thanksgiving for two weeks. The families put away their differences for a while. It’s now Christmas. Christmas lasts for a month and another never before mentioned child that none of the parents are aware of appears. Chaos ensues. Soap Opera season summary complete.
No such thing as Alpha or Beta. Just myths that must have evolved from trying to frame a personality. The World is too diverse for 2 simplistic categories. The shy, meek leader immediately comes to my mind.
I've been raised by my mother also and i'm guided by emotion and sensitivity, i don't buy that guy think neither and i'm still a natural born leader, macho actitudes are not a sign of an Alpha persons quite the oposite i would say !!...
Funny you mention having a disdain for certain characters... and soap operas too. Wrestling, which I have heard and characterized as a soap opera for men (although the old guys said one of the most dangerous fans was the old grannie - stab you with their scissors cause they took it personal). Chris Jericho has lifetime heat with me. I like Fozzy, ironically enough. Saw them at a local radio station day festival. They were great. But at the end Jericho said 'you just had your ass kicked by Fozzy'. I remember thinking, 'no, no I didn't'.
Like Feminism, Malness it's an evolving state of defining itself And for each person the definition can be quite different You can be a Feminist and want have kids, be a homemaker Being a women is not defined by being married or not, having kids or not
Side note imo u run this website or hickey site like an Alpha You are strong in your convictions, to not have ads, creating a safe environment where comments have freedom but not toxicity Your calming presence is it not balanced Alpha or say balanced yin yang energy
No one needs to be an alpha people who think they are alphas are insecure. Buy whatever car you want date any woman or man you want and work any job you want
Demisexual/demiromantic is a term under the asexual spectrum umbrella and it's pretty much what Shannon was describing in terms of his romantic/sexual attraction. What it means is that sexual/romantic attraction is very rare and only appears when a deep emotional connection has been formed with another person.
The whole "alpha" movement is a young man's game. Conquests are for the youth, if you are over 30 still in that mindset you need to grow up. Quality is more than important than quantity will ever be.
I think it’s important to know that a lot of these online alpha people are selling stuff. Usually protein or some energy drink that goes hand in hand with alpha image.
The older I get the less I care about what other people think of me. I don't really care about labels, I just live my life the way I want to live. Having said that I tend not to get along with people who have macho personalities. I just don't care about the things they're striving for in life. Thanks for going through and posting this video. I enjoyed hearing your perspective on things.
Wasn't that many years ago I heard that being beta (or anything else than an alpha) was "bad" and acting alpha was something to strive for. I think we all have different personality types, alpha, beta, omega or sigma or whatever they are called. I believe you can't completely change who you are, just like you can't change what you've been through and you're past experiences. Though I do think being happy, successful and healthy both physically and mentally is something to strive for and that's something completely different than trying to climb in some made up hierarchy ladder. I don't consider alpha neccesarily means you're rich, successful, muscular or have a lot of women, but more of a by-product when you got a mindset you'll be fine no matter what happens which I guess seems like you're always calm, confident and brave. I've been there though, trying to be and do "alpha" stuff (the actual terms wasn't a thing here, until maybe 2005-2010); working out to impress, buying way too much on luxury accessories, lying about the size of my private parts, chasing wealth, social status and so on. Being on my way to my 40's, somewhere around 30 I gradually accepted I have "flaws" that might be frowned upon or that many are much better at many thing than me - and it's all fine.
This lame “alpha” movement is the epitome of the term “toxic masculinity.” It’s also really corny and absurd and not to mention it can be pretty pathetic when it becomes an entire personality trait (It gives very strong MLM vibes, too- like It’s perfect for suckers and incels). The least “aLpHa” thing of all time is caring so much what others think about you that you live a complete facade and lose yourself in nonsense. If doing what you like, not caring anything about what anyone says and being a genuine person to yourself makes you a “beta” then being a beta sounds so much better
Being alpha have lots of meanings. Kinda changed based where you are in life. Alphas who single and only dating for 1 thing(won't say it, I veiw this as a pg channel) are different from alpha men who have a family. Generally most people in a mix of alpha and beta. Some people who more alpha than beta in them and vice-versa. They are a small amount of individuals who are mostly alpha or beta but that's a minority. There's 1 more group. I got this idea from anime. The beasts. Beasts are individuals who were alpha and beta but chose not to respect others (usually women) and do something illegal by forcing themselves onto women/men. That is animal behavior and the other groups have nothing to do with it. BTW most of the manospere alphas are betas. That being said. Just because those betas are problematic doesn't mean other betas are like that. I think your close to an alpha but still a beta. Which is fine. Don't let the labels changed you.
I'm pretty much in the same boat in many ways. My father and I had a strained relationship, I spent more time with my mom. I was usually more sensitive than other guys, but I still played hockey and other sports, but just didn't have the same mentality. I still get angry, I still have testosterone, but I just think differently. I got picked on lots too, just for being more quiet and different. I didn't fit into any one box because I played sports, but I was also in theater, and I also was into dungeons and dragons, and videogames.
As a girl who's around the age of those going for the Alpha/Beta male stuff, I have yet to meet any of the supposed females who'd dig that mentality 🤷♀️
I know with my dad he wanted me in particular to be a macho, alpha male. He watched cowboy films and when they weren't in style he went for the action films were the man is grotesquely macho. So the fact that I wasn't was an ongoing issue for him. "There's something wrong with you," is something I'd always hear. It's funny though that everything he wanted me to be ended up coming out in my sister which caused a whole heap of other trouble. That's why I don't want to get into this alpha male crap. It just reminds me of stuff I have no interest in.
I relate to a lot of what you said. I am the same way. Not interested in screwing around... but I guess now after 25 years of depression I would be happy to just have a chance to feel. Something.
I think the whole debate is ridiculous (this video of course is not). Life is a spectrum, and people fall into spots all over that spectrum. It's not just one or the other.
This is an interesting conversation topic... I appreciate you bringing it up! It's one we have in our house as we have teens (and they are curious why someone may be alpha). We are confused by they recent "alpha popularity" Also... how did I not know about the Dr who reviews! On my way to find those!
The hilarious thing about the whole “alpha” scene is that it’s completely dependent on copying whatever influencers tell you to do, including never shutting the hell up about how independent and self-sufficient you are. There were guys like that before the specific term became popular but it’s always a joke to me.
With all the loud people out there trying to convince everyone (and themselves) that their way is the right way or only way, it's good for lots of young men out there to hear the other side from your voice of reason so they know there is another way and it's okay to follow it.
i'm "alpha" because i'm the one people call when there's a problem. not to run up on people and crack skulls but when there's a real moment of need, people in my life know they can count on me to assist them in anyway i can. none of that other stuff matters. that's for show. i'm not putting on a show.
Your kinda of a trailblazer for independent hockey channels On UA-cam you set out made a career took risks when you left your job to do this full time lot of other Chanels but none close to this
If it makes you feel better, Shannon... I have yet to land a date for the first time in my life & I'm almost 31.5 years old. While I'm able to talk to women, I'm just unable to make a connection, and there have been a few times where women were interested in me, but never show any hints about it. My sister told me that a couple of times, and every time she said that, I get severely depressed. Looks like I'm able to attract someone w/out even knowing. It doesn't help that people thought that I'm a woman or that I'm gay. :/ Yeah, we are definitely relatable, Shannon... as I, too, have a dad who is alcoholic.
He made a video about not being an Alpha.
What an Alpha move.
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Unpopular opinion, laced with facts. You can't be Alpha and woke at the same time. All Alpha Men are an ass kicking away from being Beta. I would pay my hard earned money to watch Andrew Tate lose his alpha status and be humbled on live PPV.
Shannon you are a true Alpha. Someone who is unapologetically themselves and on the internet that’s one of the bravest most Chad things you can do
Shannon , you are on alpha in my books. You turned your passion into a living and became one of the best in it.
I was saying the same thing. Shannon is incredibly successful and is someone so many look up to.
That's Alpha
Stop insulting him
@@TheFullKanani He's Complimenting him idiot...
I honestly feel bad for the Alpha Bro types. I had a contentious relationship with my dad and I bottled up a lot of anger and pain. I decided once I went to college to stop holding onto trying to be my Dad’s view of what I should be. Love with always trump materialism and womanizing for me. For me it doesn’t add anything to my life of substance.
Hi Shannon, I just wanted to say that to me you're a role model in a way that rises way above the stuff like alpha-beta conversation. I'm in my early 20s and lot of your experiences with women sound similar to mine. Also never understood the alpha stuff so I guess it's not just generational. Makes me so happy that the guy who makes the best hockey content also happens to be an absolute inspiration as a person ❤
I never got the manly/Alpha stuff either, I might have had some gender dysphoria potentially caused by these categorization of males as I never was gay but I also got called that and I never understood fellow males in K-12 school so I was the only guy in the girl group for the long haul, and I also liked shopping, so it’s interesting to see some similarities and perhaps provide me some guidance too as I don’t have to struggle to change myself. I really don’t believe in Alphas and Betas either, and I agree with you on the daring stuff as I am the cautious type. I’d rather live to when I qualify for senior discounts than risk my life. Thanks for this video! It’s nice to not feel pressured now!
Even as a hockey fan, these are my favorite videos of yours. Get Ramblin Shannon going on an issue and it's always just filled to the brim with frankness and humor and little tidbits of your personal life. I really enjoyed your time flies video as well, despite the existential dread it gave me.
In regards to the topic, I tell myself this: Want to be Alpha? 1. Stop being caught up on being 'Alpha'. 2. Be comfortable and in tune with yourself. 3. Be phsyically fit (but don't take it too far like fake "alphas"). 4. Be successful (I'm not yet). 5. Do the things that are hard, rare, or not seen as 'masculine' (Example: us men going to therapy).
That self-awareness you have, I'd call that successful. I'm getting into values based living instead of the goal based living we're "supposed" to follow.
someone who follows their passion and made a living out of it and has fans all over the world. your channel is one of the few things keeping me interested in hockey anymore. a true alpha in my book
Does anyone else feel behind in life? Cause I do. I’m 24 years old but I feel like I’m not. Cause I see people I know that are my age or younger that have a family or a great life or own a house. And I still live at home. I feel like I’m a waste. I bust my ass everyday everyday but I feel like I’m stuck.
This is super relatable. I'm almost 26, about to graduate from law school. I see people my age with high-paying jobs, houses, and families. Meanwhile, I'm grinding but not actually getting anywhere.
@@PokrRat777 yeah I have a college degree to and I still feel like I’m going nowhere in life. And I feel like I’m in just a dark place in life
@@MOOSEPRIME98 100% I feel that, it sucks. Lately, I've really started focusing on myself and things I can control like getting in shape, practising my hobbies, learning about things that interest me etc. Its definitely helped me a lot mentally.
I’m 31 and still figuring things out. It doesn’t always feel great not to be where you want.. but focusing on what other people are doing. Focus on the people that matter in your daily life the best you can, not what you see on social media. I’m trying to practice what I’m preaching myself. Just do your best and keep your head up. You’re worth everything and important in this world regardless of where you feel you are in life right now.
Moose don’t worry you are still so young. You have your whole life ahead of you. My son gets sad watching Facebook and watches it as little as possible as it is depressing. Do your own thing, do street hockey or say pickleball but don’t worry. You are going to succeed 😊
Sounds like your dad and my dad should have gotten together and gone bowling. I was born 7 years after you, but I had a similar upbringing. In the church.
My dad was deeply religious but didn’t drink as far as I knew, but he really didn’t need to. Somehow, food got thrown across the kitchen anyway, if it was spaghetti or he didn’t get tea with dinner. It took her years to leave him. She passed away this past July from nonalcoholic liver disease. My dad died in 2019, right before COVID.
I was the disabled guy with ADD who was always socially awkward and my one long term relationship was a girl I met over the internet and it didn’t work partly because I’m inadequate as well as the fact that my dad and his family tend to be a little, or a lot, racist. He called her parents a slur the first time he met them. I haven’t been able to ask a lady out since. And being disabled, I have physical limitations. Walking long distances isn’t my thing.
But this is my long winded way of saying that the years I’ve followed your channels have gotten me through some really dark times and sometimes it’s the only thing that gets me out of bed in the morning. So thank you for all that you do.
Shannon you were already my favourite youtuber as THG. Now I started watching more and more TEG videos, stumbled across this one today and you're an alpha in my books. Respect, compassion, values, are true characteristics, not money, muscles, or "ability to pull bitches". Unbelievable human being you are 👏
How you played the alpha-man was fabulous! Maybe you have an alpha-man lurking underneath your skin... 😁 I really appreciate these non hockey videos.
I didn't know you were a wrestling fan! Hockey and wrestling, my two favorite things
Shannon, you're neither. You're sigma af.
You're seem to be a really good guy. Keep up the great work.
2:21 I can relate to having a childhood like yours. Very similar dynamics.
I think the danger with these type of conversations (just like with women) is (unintentionally or not) you can either try fitting into toxic masculinity behaviours or, conversely, having the "not like other guys" syndrome (of course building off the "not like other girls" phenomena. There is an overwhelming tendency (in things like the manosphere or female dating strategy movements, etc.) to generalize how most men behave, how most women behave and even reverse snobbery where you think (again) that you're unique or not capable of the toxic elements of gender simply because you feel you don't identify (on paper) with being an "alpha" for example. The number one thing is to consistently evaluate, challenge, and compare yourself to yourself and be aware of how you think and act because the most dangerous thing is thinking because you feel you're a certain way (i.e a "good guy/girl"), you are incapable of acting the way the bad ones do and there are a litany of examples (especially with the #MeToo movement) where people whom people thought never in a million years would be capable of doing stuff end up being the ones who end up doing stuff.
Happy New Year to TEG! 🎉❤ 🎆 🎇 😊
Love this channel man! I feel like i grew into a real adult on this channel. I think i started watching in 2017-2018. I was 23 then and now im 28 and have been working full time almost 3 years
Keep up the great work on both channels
Shannon is: a) A river in Ireland b) A hit song in 1976 c) The Hockey Guy d)All of the above. answer d.
Told my son when he was born that he might not be the biggest fish in the sea but he doesn't swim with the minnows... basically stop comparing yourself to others... there's always going to be bigger, smarter, faster, funnier, better looking etc... if you truly get caught up in that crap you're not focusing on yourself
The alpha beta thing came from a guy, Mech I think, researching wolves in captivity. When he observed in the wild he realised it was not what they do naturally, the alpha males and females were simply the dad and mom. Even though he corrected his mistake it still exists as a thing for some reason. Sad, a simple misunderstanding has lead to so many ruined lives. Thanks for the interesting video.
So much of this Alpha/Beta crap is perpetuated by folks that want to sell you something.
Artificial penises are big money for fake alpha's - guns, big trucks, fast cars, hot bimbo(goldigger/groupie) women, big juiced muscles all to make you feel that everyone sees you as being a man.
Reality check - if you need something else to make you feel like a "man" then you aren't a real "alpha" as true alpha's don't need validation of their supposed "manliness". If you think showing off the big trucks or fast women make you look like an "alpha" you're just a gullible fool being fleeced for a real alpha's profits.
The real alpha's take charge and run society they don't waste all their time showing off and bragging about their manliness to validate their precious delicate little feelings of masculinity.
I don't see many 'alphas' taking charge of anything these days. The whole things a fallacy mischaracterizing the behavior of a lead wolf and the rest of the pack. The spirit behind the idea of being a mensch is a loftier goal.
@@Fatazz - I agree they're not as common as some think and many perceived alpha's are just psychopaths(thin line really) but there are definitely many still out there especially in corporate management and military/security fields.
I loosely know 1 true alpha myself and he always impresses me - went to a restaurant once where he was there with another group and my group had it's reservations screwed up and the hostess was panicking a bit trying to figure out how to fix it and he just walked over and politely but authoritatively took control and calmed her down and told her how to fix it and 2 minutes later everything was good and the hostess and her manager who showed up were both thanking him.
Usually telling others how to do their jobs doesn't go well but true alpha's know how to take charge without swinging their ego-penises around and they get shit done without upsetting or disrespecting anyone.
They are rare to come across but true alpha's are actually very valuable to society, the wannabe alpha's are dangerous though.
There are two types of people in the world: Alphas, and people who use terms "Betas and Alphas"
22:56 real voice reveal
The walls were pretty thin..and I don’t think he wanted to fix them.. TEG..another gem of a descriptive ..🎯🌿🌟🎼
I'M HOCKEY ALPHA.... oh wait there's the hockey guy........ and Bob MacKenzie... never mind
Alpha is a mindset, not a demographic...
realest guy on youtube
Love That Danhausen
Hey Shannon, from the sounds of it, you seem demisexual. Us male Demis are pretty rare in the wild. You aren’t weird for needing an emotional connection first. It’s what makes us, us.
i didn't know that was a thing, but i heard shannon discussing that and i feel very similar, so i guess here's another
I think every guy is "alpha" sometimes and sometimes isn't.
Is anyone really any one thing all the time?
You're pretty much "everyman" I'd say, like the rest of us.
You've got the love of a good woman man! Don't worry, be happy!
Hey Shannon,
I tend to agree I hate the beta vs alpha thing it makes me cringe. On what basis should a person (generally directed towards men) be judged whether they are an alpha? Imo it can be athletic ability, success with women, happiness with one’s life/activities, career success, even ability to fight, social prowess. I hate it when people are put into boxes, every single one of us is unique and shouldn’t be so hard on ourselves. Any time someone tries to label me and put me in a box whatever it may be, I tend to think there’s a lot more to life and existence that these type people can’t even begin to fathom.
Shannon you are your own different breed. You are simply built different
get the feeling that most straight men don't really care to be "categorized", which is why there's only Alpha & Beta. sure, some want to be identified as Alpha, because it's a buzz word & feeds into this notion of being THE MAN, but i think most straight men just want to be categorized as "individuals"... but that's just my opinion, i could be wrong
Wow! I just witnessed the Greatest Leg of Darts Ever! Now, that's Entertainment!!!
The thing is alpha vs beta is all about discovering your masculinity
Now u could say getting bit by lizard is alpha, or is alpha not letting yourself be bitten by lizards, sounds beta??
But it could also be toxic Alpha( think Darwin award)
I am 50 and grew up in The 80's. Alpha is toxic and unrealistic.
There was a teacher in my private high school who was the most powerful guy on campus. He was an open homophobe and misogynist. Pompous. I learned to hate folks like that guy.
I have Cerebral Palsy. I walk and talk well. But Alpha wannabes have punched down on me all of my life. Being gay in the 80's did not help either. I now know that getting that harassment is more about someone else than it's about me.
Even after trauma, I have empathy. Being a man is being a protector and helping others.
Alpha male is not what the stigma implies. If you provide for your family, and women and kids feel secure around you, you're a man. If you make the right choice and not the one that benefits you the most, you're a man. You're a fine man, Shannon.
Being an alpha doesnt mean your a jerk. Yes there are alpha men who are jerks or worse. Being an alpha is all in your mindset. Traits of an alpha male 1. You dont need anyones approval or look for approval.. 2. You walk to the beat of your own drum. 3. You dont blame other people for your problems and admit your mistakes. 4. You chase excellence. 5. You dont care what anyone thinks about you, your mentally tough and strong enough to not have that fear.
Beta male traits
1. People pleasers. 2. Demonstrates approval seeking behavior constantly. 3. Will settle for second best. 4. Insecure. 5. Tend to blame others for there failures in life.
Good for you, Shannon, for being completely comfortable with who you are. Clearly it is paying off in many aspects of your life.
There’s one pseudo-intellectual fitness UA-camr that comes to mind who larps as an alpha yet abandoned his wife & kids, moved 4 states away and left them to fend for themselves. Seems ironic.
One last word on manliness( same with feminism)
There is the inner world and their is the exterior world, both are equal in value
You work on your inner world, working your interactions socially etc the more you work on both, the less toxic men become, the true alpha beta are compatible, with each other regardless of the mix( its rarely 50/50)
When I played wallyball 4 mixed volleyball in a racquetball court or 6 mixed beach volleyball.
Now being the best player, superfast, able to see plays before they happen. Now is it alpha being everywhere so fast making incredible plays, or learning to anticipate less and allow my teammates to grow and get better
Ah ah what is the true Alpha here?
i feel the same way, never understood the alpha male vs beta male nonsense, as for me it gives off the same vibes as organized religion. With said, I wish UA-cam demonetize those UA-cam channels for actively and unapologetically promoting misogyny and misogynoir.
Soap Operas are funny. They film a thousand episodes a week because they’re basically making a movie a day…but nothing ever happens…well rarely.
I have a theory that in Soap Operas there are only like 10 days that they show every year. They’ll start on New Year’s Day and linger on that for like a month. A new unexplained ex-spouse will appear. The next day will be Valentine’s Day. That ex-spouse will provide some bombshell that will ruin the main couple’s date. Valentine’s Day lasts two months. Then we’ll fast forward to Memorial Day because Americans start summer then. The other spouse will see their never before mentioned ex on the beach and feelings will come back. That day lasts a month. Then it’s the 4th of July and the spouse has to fight off those feelings under the cover of fireworks! 4th of July lasts 3 months. Then it’s Fall. The ex couple’s never before mentioned son comes to town for college. He is trouble. He falls in love with his dad’s step niece. Then it’s Halloween for three weeks and they kiss by mistake while in costume. It’s then American thanksgiving for two weeks. The families put away their differences for a while. It’s now Christmas. Christmas lasts for a month and another never before mentioned child that none of the parents are aware of appears. Chaos ensues.
Soap Opera season summary complete.
No such thing as Alpha or Beta. Just myths that must have evolved from trying to frame a personality. The World is too diverse for 2 simplistic categories. The shy, meek leader immediately comes to my mind.
Shannon I like your blend of Alpha, Beta.....inner and outer
I've been raised by my mother also and i'm guided by emotion and sensitivity, i don't buy that guy think neither and i'm still a natural born leader, macho actitudes are not a sign of an Alpha persons quite the oposite i would say !!...
Funny you mention having a disdain for certain characters... and soap operas too. Wrestling, which I have heard and characterized as a soap opera for men (although the old guys said one of the most dangerous fans was the old grannie - stab you with their scissors cause they took it personal). Chris Jericho has lifetime heat with me. I like Fozzy, ironically enough. Saw them at a local radio station day festival. They were great. But at the end Jericho said 'you just had your ass kicked by Fozzy'. I remember thinking, 'no, no I didn't'.
I enjoy you for hockey, but I really identify with YOU
Like Feminism, Malness it's an evolving state of defining itself
And for each person the definition can be quite different
You can be a Feminist and want have kids, be a homemaker
Being a women is not defined by being married or not, having kids or not
Side note imo u run this website or hickey site like an Alpha
You are strong in your convictions, to not have ads, creating a safe environment where comments have freedom but not toxicity
Your calming presence is it not balanced Alpha or say balanced yin yang energy
I'm absolutely a bigger fan of THG now.
I believe that me and Shannon would definitely could have a amazing conversation cause we agree on a lot of things
Great video, I've with you on everything you mentioned here & I'm 100% Beta which I'm completely fine with
ya ya another world and cornation street for me.
i liked them corny
you are just the west coast me
that actually eventually did stuff :P
No one needs to be an alpha people who think they are alphas are insecure. Buy whatever car you want date any woman or man you want and work any job you want
Sigh, all these labels just ruins everything...
Alpha may mean your not afraid to sit down and talk to a woman, see a woman as an equal
Changing what alpha actually means
Most people who deny their alphaness are alphas
I think…not sure really
Meanwhile the betta's the ultimate alpha.
that was a real beta use of a whiteboard for a video.
Demisexual/demiromantic is a term under the asexual spectrum umbrella and it's pretty much what Shannon was describing in terms of his romantic/sexual attraction. What it means is that sexual/romantic attraction is very rare and only appears when a deep emotional connection has been formed with another person.
I'm no Beta....Gamma or Delta maybe.
The whole "alpha" movement is a young man's game. Conquests are for the youth, if you are over 30 still in that mindset you need to grow up. Quality is more than important than quantity will ever be.
Had no idea hockey guy was a Danhausen fan
22:57. Your voice when doing the impression made you sound like the actor who played Chet Hunter on Boy Meets World.
Total Alpha, always has been...
Alpha male? It's 2023.
Is it possible to be a hybrid? Lol
I think it’s important to know that a lot of these online alpha people are selling stuff. Usually protein or some energy drink that goes hand in hand with alpha image.
The older I get the less I care about what other people think of me. I don't really care about labels, I just live my life the way I want to live. Having said that I tend not to get along with people who have macho personalities. I just don't care about the things they're striving for in life.
Thanks for going through and posting this video. I enjoyed hearing your perspective on things.
22:58 is so hilarious omggggg 😂
Shannon, would your wife say you are Alpha or Beta ? That's the real answer to this question.
She would say I am her husband.
Your childhood sounds a lot like mine. Love your channel dude. ❤
I'm more of a Beta.
Wasn't that many years ago I heard that being beta (or anything else than an alpha) was "bad" and acting alpha was something to strive for. I think we all have different personality types, alpha, beta, omega or sigma or whatever they are called. I believe you can't completely change who you are, just like you can't change what you've been through and you're past experiences. Though I do think being happy, successful and healthy both physically and mentally is something to strive for and that's something completely different than trying to climb in some made up hierarchy ladder.
I don't consider alpha neccesarily means you're rich, successful, muscular or have a lot of women, but more of a by-product when you got a mindset you'll be fine no matter what happens which I guess seems like you're always calm, confident and brave.
I've been there though, trying to be and do "alpha" stuff (the actual terms wasn't a thing here, until maybe 2005-2010); working out to impress, buying way too much on luxury accessories, lying about the size of my private parts, chasing wealth, social status and so on. Being on my way to my 40's, somewhere around 30 I gradually accepted I have "flaws" that might be frowned upon or that many are much better at many thing than me - and it's all fine.
This lame “alpha” movement is the epitome of the term “toxic masculinity.” It’s also really corny and absurd and not to mention it can be pretty pathetic when it becomes an entire personality trait (It gives very strong MLM vibes, too- like It’s perfect for suckers and incels). The least “aLpHa” thing of all time is caring so much what others think about you that you live a complete facade and lose yourself in nonsense. If doing what you like, not caring anything about what anyone says and being a genuine person to yourself makes you a “beta” then being a beta sounds so much better
Maybe somewhat ironically (or maybe not) this TEG video actually puts me in mind of some of the older, early THG videos.
Being alpha have lots of meanings. Kinda changed based where you are in life. Alphas who single and only dating for 1 thing(won't say it, I veiw this as a pg channel) are different from alpha men who have a family.
Generally most people in a mix of alpha and beta. Some people who more alpha than beta in them and vice-versa. They are a small amount of individuals who are mostly alpha or beta but that's a minority. There's 1 more group. I got this idea from anime. The beasts. Beasts are individuals who were alpha and beta but chose not to respect others (usually women) and do something illegal by forcing themselves onto women/men. That is animal behavior and the other groups have nothing to do with it.
BTW most of the manospere alphas are betas. That being said. Just because those betas are problematic doesn't mean other betas are like that.
I think your close to an alpha but still a beta. Which is fine. Don't let the labels changed you.
I'm pretty much in the same boat in many ways. My father and I had a strained relationship, I spent more time with my mom. I was usually more sensitive than other guys, but I still played hockey and other sports, but just didn't have the same mentality. I still get angry, I still have testosterone, but I just think differently. I got picked on lots too, just for being more quiet and different. I didn't fit into any one box because I played sports, but I was also in theater, and I also was into dungeons and dragons, and videogames.
As a girl who's around the age of those going for the Alpha/Beta male stuff, I have yet to meet any of the supposed females who'd dig that mentality 🤷♀️
Not that I can find either ATM, but I definitely have evolved from being ok with casual to wanting something real and permanent.
I saw the heading of the vid and I was like "wtf".....and now I'm watching lol.
I know with my dad he wanted me in particular to be a macho, alpha male. He watched cowboy films and when they weren't in style he went for the action films were the man is grotesquely macho. So the fact that I wasn't was an ongoing issue for him. "There's something wrong with you," is something I'd always hear. It's funny though that everything he wanted me to be ended up coming out in my sister which caused a whole heap of other trouble. That's why I don't want to get into this alpha male crap. It just reminds me of stuff I have no interest in.
I relate to a lot of what you said.
I am the same way.
Not interested in screwing around... but I guess now after 25 years of depression I would be happy to just have a chance to feel. Something.
I think the whole debate is ridiculous (this video of course is not). Life is a spectrum, and people fall into spots all over that spectrum. It's not just one or the other.
This is an interesting conversation topic... I appreciate you bringing it up! It's one we have in our house as we have teens (and they are curious why someone may be alpha). We are confused by they recent "alpha popularity"
Also... how did I not know about the Dr who reviews! On my way to find those!
The hilarious thing about the whole “alpha” scene is that it’s completely dependent on copying whatever influencers tell you to do, including never shutting the hell up about how independent and self-sufficient you are. There were guys like that before the specific term became popular but it’s always a joke to me.
With all the loud people out there trying to convince everyone (and themselves) that their way is the right way or only way, it's good for lots of young men out there to hear the other side from your voice of reason so they know there is another way and it's okay to follow it.
i'm "alpha" because i'm the one people call when there's a problem. not to run up on people and crack skulls but when there's a real moment of need, people in my life know they can count on me to assist them in anyway i can. none of that other stuff matters. that's for show. i'm not putting on a show.
Your kinda of a trailblazer for independent hockey channels On UA-cam you set out made a career took risks when you left your job to do this full time lot of other Chanels but none close to this
I get ya - general hospital, one life to live, ect, ect……..
I knew a lot of those soap operas……with my mom
If it makes you feel better, Shannon... I have yet to land a date for the first time in my life & I'm almost 31.5 years old. While I'm able to talk to women, I'm just unable to make a connection, and there have been a few times where women were interested in me, but never show any hints about it. My sister told me that a couple of times, and every time she said that, I get severely depressed.
Looks like I'm able to attract someone w/out even knowing. It doesn't help that people thought that I'm a woman or that I'm gay. :/
Yeah, we are definitely relatable, Shannon... as I, too, have a dad who is alcoholic.
Thank you for putting the Another World theme in my head...
Amen Shannon
Thanks again man!!!
Edited because don't make me cry 🥺