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I recently bought the updated Lenovo Legion (better case, ryzen 5800, 3070, two sticks of 16gb ram, okayish price). Quite happy with it actually. They got rid of many weakpoints mentioned in your video.
... You mean the top with the FAKED air holes... that wouldn't even work if they would be real, because this shield would hinder any air to go out at the top? Who designs such crap? And who comes to the stupid idea, that you should choke a PC air wise to heat death?
I'd rather buy any Dell than just a single shitty Gigabyte component. Always has been trash, always will be trash. Exploding PSUs are just the icing on the shitcake.
Honestly one of the few tech channels where I love (and watch) pretty much every video. Props to you guys for staying relevant while the industry generally struggles to maintain an engaged audience.
@@djtechsys I really enjoy the WAN show - where it feels more genuine and he's not talking down to the audience as much. But for. The most part yea I agree.
1400 USD for a 1660 build? WHAT? 1400 used to get you a TOP OF THE LINE BALLER PC! Like, you were a STUPID to waste so much money on a PC. Now, it gets you a mid tier GPU from 4 years ago? WHAT?! Even the EMBARRASSINGLY BAD HP PAVILION from 3 months a go got you a 2060 Super! Still a horrible value proposition, but at least it's an RTX card.
I luckily built mine right before covid in December 2019 for 1300 with a 2070 super. Sold my 2070 super a year and a half later for 100 more than I paid for it.
@@GamersNexus I have noticed! Just don’t burn yourself out so early in the year, as I am sure most of the people watching would be fine with 1-2 less videos a week if it means better physical and mental health of the GN team. But you got a lot of smart people at GN so I’m sure you took this into account when increasing video production. Still just want to let you know that more videos is great, but isn’t required!
You should do a “how much performance is left on the table” segment. Benchmark before fresh install and after and see who puts the most bloatware on their system.
@@GamersNexus And it was glorious... If I remember correctly you guys had one specific test case where it affected performance by 50%, although most if the time it was at around a 20% hit.
I heard bad things bout this one, but it's apparently surprisingly good (well, relatively, I guess). God, though. 1400 for a 1660 TI. Like seriously that money should at least get you a 3060 TI or 6700XT. Shows how much bad the GPU market is.
I bought my computer with a 1070ti for less than $1400 4 years ago. I really want an upgrade, but at the current price, i won't get any if I pay the same price... This is insane. I'm looking at around $3000 if I want the kinda of upgrade I'm looking for. Edit: Thanks for all the people giving out build advices/options. I'm actually willing to pay $3000 for the upgrade I want if I have to. Budget is not that much of a constraint. I'm just shocked because I started looking at prebuilts from my previous price range and all of them seem to be quite underwhelming.
@@lixiaochen6 try and find a 6700 XT or 6800 XT. They're still bad value but they're your best shot to get ANY GPU. Unless you're not gonna pay those prices.
well there is a model with a 3070 for about 300$, sold by major manufacturers (best buy) with an intel i7 11th gen. now that, is actually a fair price and arguably what would’ve put a lot of manufacturers to shame. there’s also a 3060 model at the same price point of their model, excluding taxes ofc.
Just to clarify on the PSU: even if you haven't heard of great wall, you have probably seen or used a GW power supply in the past. They do indeed make some of Corsair's stuff (in the modern TX-Ms, the SF series, and the non-mod CX, which is double-sourced with CWT.) The unit in this PC appears to be on a similar platform to the 2017 revision Corsair CX or the ASUS TUF, both of which are excellent budget power supplies with working protections. This doesn't mean that _all_ Great Wall power supplies are good, just that this one probably is. Thanks as always for the great coverage.
Great Wall, as a subcontractor, will build anything the client asks. And if it's absolutely horrible they will tell the client to stick their own name on it. If it's reasonably decent and the client don't mind they will stick their own name on it.
The thing is, Asus makes PSUs or at least sells them under their own name - even fairly budget ones with their TUF line up. By not using one of their own, Asus basically says one of two things: a) Our budget PSUs are shit and we didn't want to deal with lots of RMAs, so we went with the Great Wall instead. or b) We wanted to make the most profit, so we went with the cheaper Great Wall PSU instead of an Asus (branded) one and saved a few bucks on this $1,400 (!!!) pre-built. Either way, it raises a few questions...
Yes, as stated in the video, they are a common supplier and were in many of Corsair's units in the past. You are right that they won't all be good! Glad you (and some others, judging by the comments) are aware that the name doesn't dictate the quality. A lot of people jump to that low-hanging fruit and it's sad to see, so glad to see awareness by the community about the fact that this is just another supplier!
@@nicoj9984 Or c) We use Great Wall as the supplier for our budget line anyway but they charge us 12 cents more if they can't put their name on the PSU... and we guess buyers of prebuilt don't take them apart so paying 12 cents for branding is a completely brain damaged move. Not everything is a matter of being as evil and greedy a corporation as possible.. sometimes business decisions actually just plainly makes sense.
The answer is super simple. Enthusiasts that build their own systems spend a large chunk of the money in the consumer market, but are almost numerically insignificant when it comes to total number of people relative to the total consumer PC market.
And if it settles really bad on electric contacts you have a problem. (Ok some PSU have a better overcurrent protection than other maybe it saves the day)
This PC reminds me of the old PCs I had decades ago when I used cheap cases and airflow wasn't so important. Cases with just a single side intake fan and one rear exhaust fan were really common and some had an array of holes in the side panel(s) for ventilation. At some point clear acrylic panels became popular and I remember some modders putting CCFLs for lighting, which was the precursor of the RGB lighting that's so common nowadays.
Aside from the PSU mounted at the bottom of the case and the drive cages being removed this is basically indistinguishable from the case that came with the Escom Pentium 100 prebuilt I got in 1995. I bet the beige side panels I had for that machine would just slide right onto the Asus.
@@benjimc1 I really dislike what I call as "RGB vomit" that's so common nowadays. I do have RGB lighting for my current PC BUT it's just a single LED strip with a single color turned down to the lowest brightness. The stuff I see nowadays with fans cycling through a rainbow of colors, RAM sticks with LEDs, etc. I find really tacky.
@@misterthegeoff9767 What I really find hard to understand is that it's possible to create a cheap case with good ventilation. It's just a matter of putting enough vents and fan mountings so air can circulate. I'm a medical doctor by profession but I bet I can design a case with better ventilation than this "professionally designed" case. 😁
Yes, back in the mid-late 90s. You can go to the store and buy a case - they are all beige! Stripped an Antec case and painted it with four coats of Krylon midnight black metallic, then two coats clear. Wet sanded between clear coats. The project took over a week (while working). But, after putting a coat of carnuba wax on it - Mirror finish.
That side hole on the case though. Give me some nostalgia vibes when I managed to strap a case fan as exhaust to aid with the CPU cooling about 10 years ago.
Bought the one that came with the 5700G and 3060 from the Walmart I work at discounted cause of the Black Friday deal we get, swapped the case to a better one with fans and its been pretty good so far for the month i've had it. I'm still fairly new to PC's but I wanna thank this channel for helping me in learning all that I can!
It still absolutely baffles me how less computer power you get for so much money. Every time you guys introduce a prebuilt I wait for the price being just some kind of joke.
They've gotten really close to DIY prices before the chip shortage, though. Nowadays it's the entire market being ridiculously overpriced, not just pre-builts
It's not, Lenovo legion rtx 3060Ti + 5800 was sale for 1299€. For reference 3060Ti alone costs 849€. That leaves you 450€ to build 8 core pc with 16gb of ram and 1tb ssd For gaming sure you could go 12100 + 3070 and save money
When I worked at a computer store one thing we did for quality check before shipping a system out, was shaking the system and rotating it to make sure no loose screws where in there
We need a laptop series on this take. Most reviews are obviously aimed at positive, and not just a neutral take on the hardware and placement where it lands.
We also need the software side for laptops too (armory crate) so that companies can fix software bugs especially since laptops now uses digitally controlled mux switches
They did them in the past but GN is REALLY avoiding them now. Which is sad considering laptops are the better deal these days. Could be also staff reasons too.
People get crazy mad if you criticise laptops they've bought, try to go onto anything LMG and leave warranted criticism of lenovo or dell laptops and watch people explode in rage.
Question: Since this series started last year have there been updates to the prices to reflect the growing costs in hardware purchases? I like Asus a lot (I buy their laptops and motherboards exclusively), but I recognize the superior setup and cost for performance the ABS and Lenovo systems offer. However, as inflation in the US has gone through the roof, costs have fluctuated significantly than when these systems were originally tested and it would be interesting to see if the systems still hold that same value in today's market, for better or worse. Edit: Newegg has the upgraded ABS challenger with the 11400F for $1150 (price increase of $150, may be negligible with the new CPU performance). Per Lenovo's website the (now discontinued) Legion Tower 5i was last priced at $1460, a staggering $400 price increase. With this data the Legion's actual cost for performance dips below the ASUS unit (not significantly, but worth mentioning) while the ABS unit continues to offer good value in comparison
You know, one thing (among many) thats crazy to me is the coolers. I got a Freezer 34, was 23€, and does a great job keeping mid end CPUs super cool while being completely inaudible. Yet in 1500 Dollar build, they just stick one of those aluminium garbage cans atop of the CPU? And some pathetic 80mm Fan? They could stick a single 140 or so over the open side, and you'd get actually goo and quiet thermals, which even casual buyers should be happy about. Its almost as dumb as saving the
@@MOHAMEDFATHALAH Are fans really a limited commodity? At least the consumer sources, eg Amazon in Germany, sells arctics pressure optimized 120mm fans for 6€. Not to mention, this apparently has been the standard for 20 years or so; these PCs seem to use almost the same ancient technology. Is that even efficient, youd think theres new and better ways to do stuff? There was more than enough before Corona to stop being this bad.
Problem is margins, price points. You'll find spec equivalent prebuilts $200 apart because the more expensive one spent budget on things like fans and materials, rather than padding the margin. At that point, the consumer wonders why not just buy the $200 more with a better *x* or they buy the cheaper option. In either situation, they didn't buy your prebuilt. Experience is hard to advertise when you sell specs.
Great content, as always. I love seeing you rip into these oems for not doing the bare minimum. Maybe some day they'll learn. Also big ups for continuously improving this channel's content quality. I'm hooked.
I would like to see GN build a “baseline” PC using parts available on the current market (retailer or secondary) for a certain budget ($1000, $1500) and compare the prebuilt to that baseline PC.
Lovin the videos! I dont know why I find these prebuilt videos so interesting, I have a high end build and I would never buy one of these but I enjoy watching anyway! I'm ready to see some fan content!!! :)
Fun story to motherboard video outputs. I have been building custom PCs for my old sysadmin for years. Built a nice new 3900X workstation for him and went home. Got a text that I didn't test it, ( Which I did and even installed Windows/drivers) He plugged the DP into the motherboard. With a Nice RX6700XT sitting in it. 25 years of experience doesn't mean plugging in the right display outputs. Wish motherboard display outputs came with covers.
The build quality, cable management, and components look great! I would recommend this system to friends and family…if the price was lower…and it’s performance where more consistent. Great content! Thank you for the video.
I've been nervously awaiting this review for months now . I haven't built a system in over 15 years so I don't really trust myself to make my own . So I actually got this exact system and I've only had minor issues with it and this review makes me feel loads better about my buy
There's a version of this that has 55700G+3060 for $1,000 at Walmart, which is pretty much the best deal you can get lately on a build/GPU. Also worth noting Great Wall is the OEM for Corsair SF750 Plat which is still the best SFX PSS out there (until we finally get Seasonic SPX750, maybe)
We would love to have a laptop series on this . I have a dell gaming laptop and Dell is doing some serious shady stuff that's anti-consumer. Dell had peeled the plastic off of thermal pads on the side of the heatsink that we can see when we are repasting a laptop, but the other side of the pads which are glued to heatsink, has those plastic not peeled which is making those laptops last not much. Please look into this
You know it's sad that pc gaming has come to this. Before covid, you could find so many great deals on used graphics cards. Ebay was littered with treasure. I always had fun finding "budget" graphics cards because you could play around with it to see how much performance could squeeze out of it by playing with the fan curve, temp limit, overclock ect. In the past from ebay I've had- GTX 780 Lightning GTX 980 R9 280 R9 290 R9 290X R9 Fury R9 Nano RX 590 GTX 1070Ti All of them I had gotten for a really good price. Usually $100 or less (except the 1070Ti). But now it's like, you can't even recommend pc gaming to your friends because a "mid tier" pc is $1,000 which is a horrible value when compared to an Xbox Series S. I hate that it's like this. But unfortunately there's nothing we can do to change this.
I've built some systems for friends in 2021 and my go to for an ebay GPU is the GTX960 4GB. I can get one for about £100 and while it's no superstar it can still just about keep up and is half the price of a 1050ti or 1650 which is the cheapest stuff I can find in the shops.
@@misterthegeoff9767 Only problem is that's a 7 year old card now and if your buying one used it's really getting in the tooth and is a gamble with it burning out on you. Might as well fork up the extra $250-$300 for a new 1650 with a warranty. Just the move I'd do if I could stretch the budget. Driver support is another thing too.
@@madgodzilla12465 yep also sellers price gouging thier 6 or year old gpus for way more than they are realistically worth , the greed is getting worse all most people care about is making a quick buck or ripping people off. Im saying this at some that got a palit gaming Pro 3080 at £730 I do t believe in overpaying for shit even if I hadn't been lucky I still wouldn't of paid like 400- £500 for a used a 1080 etc
I have this model. I upgraded the cpu fan with amd wraith prism and replaced gtx 1650 with gtx 1060 and added an extra 8 gig ram stick. It's about as far as i can go for what it is.
This looks almost exactly the same as the pre-built Asus that I got back in 2013. Case looks the same, same one small fan inside. I'm still using it, so it held up pretty well.
That downdraft cooler + 90mm extractor fan only setup is the same as I got in my PC World (UK) prebuilt from 2011. In fact, the CPU cooler is the exact same, I think!
And you are right - the radiator block is the "box" cooler of AM3 CPUs, I had a Phntom II 840, with exactly the same radiator, just the fan was AMD branded.
Wow, who needs DDR5 memory when ASUS, in their infinite wisdom, are capable of running DDR4 at 2.666 THz?! Absolutely stunning engineering work, and impressive that they don't need heatsinks, too!
Wish you guys would rate some higher-end premades. I like the lower-end premade content but the builds themselves are just so underwhelming. I like seeing you pick stuff apart as far as flaws go, so it would be nice to see what you thought of the more reputable premade companies.
@@GamersNexus Why would anyone spend $5000 on a pre-built when you could have the best of the best using a parts-picker site where you pick the components and they build it. You'd probably have one the fastest rigs with the best cooling/airflow and actually have change from $5000.
@@gavinbuck8130 Simple, people who have money but never heard Gamers Nexus, Linus Tech Tips, or things like Boutique builder or Custom Water Cooling loop… They just went into their chosen computer store and buy the most expensive one/ sales recommended . They literally don’t care what XMP or “K” means.
@@GamersNexus Please don't do it!! I already laugh (painfully though) at these pre-builts. Of course I'm going to watch the Video but I don't know if my heart can take it when it turns out that the $2500 and $5000 builds aren't any better than Dell....
I'm sure someone already commented, I believe the black plastic sheet is to prevent light leaking around the panel, I have seen a similar thing before and when removed light would shine through the panel gaps and look a bit cheap
Dear God, the bar is so low nowadays that basic stuff is enough to impress. The "capacitor installed backwards" line was fantastic, I almost spilled my tea. An entertaining and useful review, great work!
I know all the tech youtubers are struggling on the content front at the moment since most of us viewers simply don't want to hear about GPU's since, frankly, the subject is too depressing. Hat's off for working so hard at coming up with imaginative content that is actually relevant to the current pc hardware environment.
I can't believe a no airflow ASUS prebuilt with a 7700K and GTX 1060 3GB was my dream PC back then... now I have a 3070 and 5900X DIY, how times have changed
The 3-year warranty actually starts on the product launch date, not the purchase date. I found that out when I registered the ASUS ROG Strix G15CF. It seems that ASUS ROG Strix PCs have an August launch date.
These people that upload vids bashing computers miss the point. It's a pre built PC. Part of what you're paying for is the fact that it's prebuilt. Not everyone wants to build their own PC. They want something pre assembled that comes with a warranty that will do what they need. It's a consumer based PC for the average person and it does it's job as it should when you stay within it's limits. What you're doing is like someone who built a 10 second Mustang going to a dealership and nitpicking at the factory models that run 14's and poking fun at the fact that they market them as fast muscle cars but their engines don't have superchargers on them or even a racing harness. If you built something to perform it's always going to be better and cheaper than what comes out the factory. This is just a consumer PC with everything you need for a slightly above average gaming experience. Even at $1,400 you still wouldn't get much better with the price of computer parts unless you had some sort of massive black Friday discount going on. It's easy to take apart something factory and say this sucks or that sucks but put your money where your mouth is and show us a stress test with you getting these machines to fail. Also I how can this dude pretend to be some sort of computer expert when you don't even realize that "black thing covering the back of the front fascia of the keys is a heat shield to prevent heat soak to the front of the computer. Don't pretend to understand design engineering if you ain't an engineer.
I can't wrap my head around getting a new machine with a video card worse than my 1080 I bought nearly 6 years ago. Let alone paying these kind of insane prices.
@@blackfacegaming191 it was a little over $700 for the card. And...ehhh $900ish for everything else. Would have been a lot cheaper but SSDs were expensive back then. The point being that was the best card out at the time. A 1660ti doesn't even qualify as mid-range.
@@Gertso It sucks. I finally have a good enough job to buy an overpriced 3080ti for my dual 1440p setup but when I got into building pcs in my 20s this would have killed me! My love for building pcs is even poor folks in the past could make a custom cool looking decent build. I don't want it a rich man's big d*** hobby only
I bought a “ready gaming” Ibuypower pre-built just before Christmas. All name brand components in a case that actually flows air. i9-11900kf, Gigabyte Aourus z590 elite ax mono, 32GB T-Force 3200 RAM, Asus TUF 3080, 360mm AIO, 1TB Gen4 NVME, etc in an Inwin 305 tempered glass case for $2749.
www.walmart.com/ip/ASUS-ROG-Strix-R7-RTX-3060-Gaming-Desktop-AMD-Ryzen-7-5700G-NVIDIA-GeForce-3060-16GB-RAM-1TB-HDD-256GB-SSD-Gray-Windows-10-Home-G10DK-WB764/797509896 Might be this one but sold out
@@GamersNexus you guys should do some of the MSI models and try and get one with the boards that are named and labeled like the retail ones but are version B or something similar so they never get bios updates after they are originally released despite the retail boards getting constant upgrades. This is there bios policy for all the prebuilts. Its more egregious on the higher end models especially since they specifically advertise them as great to upgrade. I have a triden x z390 version and if i got a 30 series i couldn't get resizable bar working no matter what and even if i bought a model newer with a z490 and a 30 series standard its not available because they don't do bios updates despite the boards being the same as the retail models they are even labeled the same (ie Z390i gaming edge ac)but they often will just not add on a sata connector or a fan header. Its really ridiculous because they would've had to have made a deliberate choice to make the mobos in the prebuilts different than the retail versions of the boards . For example the bios on my computer is from (7/19) while the retail z390i gaming edge ac most recent bios is from (11/21)
That's going to be a crazy dust trap, the amount of dust n fluff my Be Quiet Base 500DX catches in the front dust filter every month would be a nightmare to clean out of the graphics card fans and CPU fans. All cases should be made around the concept of sucking in vast amounts of air through filters, it baffles me when these prebuilds are bordering on ceiled units. :)
Asus wins the gold medal of the "It's not actively making its components worse via configuration" awards! Or it at least lands somewhere on the podium for silver or bronze. Considering the quality of most pre-builds these days that's pretty impressive for a major brand. Also I honestly can't remember a single glowing review of a pre-built on GN so getting ANY praise is noteworthy here lol GG Asus your pre-built isn't bad and the Zephyrus G15 (AMD 5900H + Nvidia 3070) I bought from you guys has been fantastic considering its well...a laptop! So while you still can't trust most brands... at least Asus appears to genuinely be trying to do good!
Since the GPU shortage is seemingly over I have been wanting to build a new PC. I have never purchased a prebuilt in my life (25 years of pc building under my belt) BUT I just picked up the new ASUS GT15 ROG Strix from best buy (I know I know) BUT it is the updated 2022 version of this PC Steve is looking at . The case has a major redesign USB-C in front and back. The case has open mesh at the front and top and back with shielded tempered glass side and RGB aura sync strips inside and on the front . Has the i7 12700F, 16GB ddr4 3200 ram, Micron PCI gen4 500 GB M.2 boot drive, and a 2TB HDD, ASUS RTX 3060 with back-plate. All connected to a ASUS TUF Gaming b660m-plus WIFI d4 motherboard which is a $160 board alone. I paid $1,136 for the system and replaced the stock cooler with a Noctua nh-u9s and it keeps a steady 37-43 deg at idle/streaming UA-cam and never over 68 while gaming. Reason I got it was I could not build a comparable system for under $1400 on PC part Picker. So far I'm really happy. Its all standard off the shelf pieces from reputable manufacturers with a decent warranty.
got a similar build for my girlfriend from FB marketplace for $600 and it came with a 1650 and a 3400g. I did change the ram to dual channel. and while this is almost the sam case it came with a tinted acrylic sidepanel. edit: also it came with one stick of ram, the same cpu cooler and gpu bracket, and psu, but surprisingly has an mATX mobo. it also lists itself as GL10DH on the sticker on the bottom
The thing is I’ve seen and almost bought that exact same system at a Walmart for 1000$ but it had a 5600g and a 3060 but I got a abs challenger instead so I feel like this a worst example price to performance
Thing is, those 2 components are very capable as a mid-spec gaming machine, it's such a pity that they are often coupled with crap ram in a case with crappy airflow. The mark-up on these prebuilts is criminal, they could easily spend an extra $30-$40 on ram and case and have a very respectable gaming PC, but they never do.
I think it would be nice to see the date of purchase next to the prices in the charts. The costs of components changing every day and the price being one of the major factors of evaluation of these products I think it would only make sense.
Got this same model 6 months ago at Sams club for $1,200.00 Adding up the parts, it pretty much breaks even. Mine has been a good experience. Pretty sure you can still find them at that price if they are in stock.
DO NOT BUY ASUS PRE-BUILTS. They are e-waste waiting to happen. ASUS refuses to update their BIOS on a regular even though it's just a re-badged motherboard. Their support is horrible and doesn't care about the consumer at all.
Hope to see something about Aftershock pre build gaming PC in Singapore. There are very little to none professional reviewers in my country that can do a creditable review on pre builds(most of these amateur seems sponsored by the product retailer) and it be a great lesson to give to these reviewers with your in depth reviews. also to bring light and raise bar to the pre build industry of my country.
Check out the MSI Aegis desktops, I ordered one for the research lab I manage and have been impressed with it…basically because it’s all off the shelf and was a good price. 11700k + 240mm AIO + 3070ti and I think we paid about 1800 for it.
I LOVE the Prebuilt series, It is really cool to see how much better of a job I'm doing when I build something myself, but also it has allowed me to advise my friends on what to buy. Your channel for real is saving people a lot of money not buying things like Alienware (Although I don't think most were buying it anyways) I got an ad on a video of yours for Meta Gaming PC's and looked at their Tier 2 Build because it was comparable to what I Have in my PC, and with a couple of Google searches the price didn't seem like a complete scam. Wasn't sure of there was a place to leave suggestions but it would be nice to know if Meta actually builds computers or if they are somehow making bank off of inexperience.
My grandson purchased a pre-built from Best Buy that has an 11700kf and 3060Ti for $1300 ... I was amazed at the price. We did however replace the cheap cpu cooler for a Noctua because the cpu temp was hitting 80 C at idle. Just replacing the cooler brought the temp down to 30 C.
I just built my mom a PC and the same PC would have cost 1300 Euros more from Ibuypower. X570 Carbon wifi max, AMD 5900x, Gigabyte 6700xt 12GB OC Gamer GPU, 64gb ram, 1tb ssd Samsung 980, Corsair Watercooler, silent 750W platinum psu, and Corsair 5000D case. 2400 Euros total. We paid 900 for the GPU which is almost 400 over msrp but was the only one available.
Not sure about the Nexus guys but when I bought mine it came with a 30 inch Samsung curved screen with the dummy good resolution . I'm guessing that's where 700 bucks of it goes
If I ever get PC parts for a reasonable price, the only way I'll go is building myself. Nothing better than assembling your rig and feeling proud how well it came out.
Steve, regarding Armoury Crate - I recently put together a completely new PC with a 5900X, Asus RIG Strix B550-E motherboard, 32GB DDR4 3600, and an RTX 3080. Even on premium DIY parts (such as the B550-E, which is one of the most expensive B550 boards but has PCIe 4 SLI support, the Armoury Crate bullsh!t is enabled ^BY DEFAULT^ in the BIOS/UEFI. This meant that I installed Windows 11 and once I had set up network connectivity, the Armoury Crate software downloaded and installed itself, along with 5 services, 3 scheduled tasks, and other Asus software. Remember, this was enabled by default by Asus. It shouldn't be allowed. Also, Asus is still shipping products with defective Intel 2.5gbps NICs. Edit: Was going to send an email (tips at etc.) but it's no longer listed.
Hey there hope you can read this comment. There is a guy called Doug DeMuro that has an excellent car review channel. Borrowing from him, I know you don't really "score" the systems but probably would be nice a chart at the end to just place which systems you liked the least and which you liked the most, ok so sort of scoring, to have an overview of all the reviews you have made without having to revisit the entire playlist. Also, can you review the NZXT Starter Pro? Selfishly, that is the one I am looking at for my next system. Currently I have a CyberPowerPC that after some mods is really rock solid and I think the NZXT really wouldn't need anything just in the stock configuration. Keep it up, great content as always :)
I got this desktop with a ryzen 7 5700g, 16 gb of ram, a 3060 asus Phoenix,225 gb ssd, and 1tb hard drive, and it is really good. I just changed the case for a corsair 4000x rgb and a ssd of 1tb. I bought this desktop for 999 at Walmart
I know that Lenovo and Asus both have different levels of quality control. However, at the PC store I work at, an older woman recently purchased an i5 11500 Legion desktop with a GTX 1660 Super for $850 USD before tax, this was apparently purchased at Costco. The Lenovo also has dual channel memory for 16gb, a 512gb SSD, and a 1tb HDD. That I think is a very decent deal. $1400 for that system configuration is a ton of money! Especially for a GTX 1660TI and last gen CPU! I would love to see this system compared to the Legion system for sale currently on Costco's website. The GPU in the Lenovo has a fairly pathetic looking heatsink and I can't imagine it would keep the VRAM cool. Great video as always! Love seeing the pre-built videos.
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I recently bought the updated Lenovo Legion (better case, ryzen 5800, 3070, two sticks of 16gb ram, okayish price). Quite happy with it actually. They got rid of many weakpoints mentioned in your video.
I like how you buy the worst prebuilts only lol
I got a rog pc it is very good for the prices
Bdw ur wrong i got this pc and it has air from the fron if you look under at the fromt there is a opening and in there is a filter
Can you guys take a look at the strix r7 pre-built from Walmart?
Steve: "It looks bad at the front, and the side, and the back... and the other side... but..."
Asus: "YES! He likes the top and bottom!"
Then he saw the inside of the top
... You mean the top with the FAKED air holes... that wouldn't even work if they would be real, because this shield would hinder any air to go out at the top?
Who designs such crap? And who comes to the stupid idea, that you should choke a PC air wise to heat death?
@@acmenipponair It was literally said in video it is a old case that was retooled, and the heat is not issue too
I just call these prebuilt reviews now as the "It's better than Dell" segment. 😎👍
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Same, the only dells I accept are the laptops.
@@Fly_By_Gaming Don't accept any Dell, period.
Same lol
@@Fly_By_Gaming they good for daily use of utube, movies and browsing
Let's be honest, you're never going to find a system worse then Dell. It just isn't going to happen... unless Gigabyte makes one that explodes.
Don't give them ideas.
I'd rather buy any Dell than just a single shitty Gigabyte component. Always has been trash, always will be trash. Exploding PSUs are just the icing on the shitcake.
.......... Compaq says "hold my beer"
@@arcuz7862 I just got an aorus 3090 now you scare me lol elaborate
@LucidMC nothing bro its only their psu's were exploding and their bios glitches.
The auros brand is actually pretty good imo.Great purchase btw
Honestly one of the few tech channels where I love (and watch) pretty much every video. Props to you guys for staying relevant while the industry generally struggles to maintain an engaged audience.
I credit Steve’s consistent delivery. I can watch him everyday, where with the others, I have to take in small amounts, especially He-Who-Drops-GPUs.
@@djtechsys I really enjoy the WAN show - where it feels more genuine and he's not talking down to the audience as much. But for. The most part yea I agree.
Shows you how screwed we really are in the prebuilt market and GPU market when this is one of the better option available and it has a 1660
Lol I just bought one of these used like 2 months ago with a 2070 super and 3800x for $950. I like it so I'll see how it compares to this one.
If you're lucky you can find 3060 ti at 700$. Or 6600 XT at 550-650.
You just need luck and patience unfortunately
1400 USD for a 1660 build? WHAT? 1400 used to get you a TOP OF THE LINE BALLER PC! Like, you were a STUPID to waste so much money on a PC. Now, it gets you a mid tier GPU from 4 years ago? WHAT?! Even the EMBARRASSINGLY BAD HP PAVILION from 3 months a go got you a 2060 Super! Still a horrible value proposition, but at least it's an RTX card.
I luckily built mine right before covid in December 2019 for 1300 with a 2070 super. Sold my 2070 super a year and a half later for 100 more than I paid for it.
just think 1400 dollars meant top of the line computer.....
Good old days
It's so ridiculous that a legitimate selling point of a prebuilt is "didn't deeply offend", but here we are.
To be fair that is high praise for any product when it comes to GN reviews.
It's up there with "I have no major complaints".
The amount of content recently has been amazing!
Thank you! We're working hard to hit more publication days!
@@GamersNexus I have noticed! Just don’t burn yourself out so early in the year, as I am sure most of the people watching would be fine with 1-2 less videos a week if it means better physical and mental health of the GN team. But you got a lot of smart people at GN so I’m sure you took this into account when increasing video production. Still just want to let you know that more videos is great, but isn’t required!
@@GamersNexus your awesome, love Ur videos
You should do a “how much performance is left on the table” segment. Benchmark before fresh install and after and see who puts the most bloatware on their system.
We've done that before, haha. The Dell system had a special bloatware video!
@@GamersNexus Maybe a follow up for this machine too?
@@GamersNexus would love to see one for all the (incompetent) systems!
@@GamersNexus And it was glorious... If I remember correctly you guys had one specific test case where it affected performance by 50%, although most if the time it was at around a 20% hit.
Asus prebuilds are the way to go if that's what you are going to buy . They aint bad
I heard bad things bout this one, but it's apparently surprisingly good (well, relatively, I guess).
God, though. 1400 for a 1660 TI. Like seriously that money should at least get you a 3060 TI or 6700XT. Shows how much bad the GPU market is.
I bought my computer with a 1070ti for less than $1400 4 years ago. I really want an upgrade, but at the current price, i won't get any if I pay the same price...
This is insane.
I'm looking at around $3000 if I want the kinda of upgrade I'm looking for.
Edit: Thanks for all the people giving out build advices/options. I'm actually willing to pay $3000 for the upgrade I want if I have to. Budget is not that much of a constraint. I'm just shocked because I started looking at prebuilts from my previous price range and all of them seem to be quite underwhelming.
@@lixiaochen6 try and find a 6700 XT or 6800 XT. They're still bad value but they're your best shot to get ANY GPU.
Unless you're not gonna pay those prices.
Bcs of the current market i was stuck for almost a year without a gpu now i still don't have gpu that i hope for but i can game now with my 1650
Actually, you can easily find a 3060Ti or 6700XT for that kind of money. Just without the rest of the computer included.
well there is a model with a 3070 for about 300$, sold by major manufacturers (best buy) with an intel i7 11th gen. now that, is actually a fair price and arguably what would’ve put a lot of manufacturers to shame. there’s also a 3060 model at the same price point of their model, excluding taxes ofc.
Just to clarify on the PSU: even if you haven't heard of great wall, you have probably seen or used a GW power supply in the past. They do indeed make some of Corsair's stuff (in the modern TX-Ms, the SF series, and the non-mod CX, which is double-sourced with CWT.) The unit in this PC appears to be on a similar platform to the 2017 revision Corsair CX or the ASUS TUF, both of which are excellent budget power supplies with working protections.
This doesn't mean that _all_ Great Wall power supplies are good, just that this one probably is.
Thanks as always for the great coverage.
I remember Great Wall from the original Walmart PC video. Turns out even back then it was probably one of the better things in that whole thing.
Great Wall, as a subcontractor, will build anything the client asks. And if it's absolutely horrible they will tell the client to stick their own name on it. If it's reasonably decent and the client don't mind they will stick their own name on it.
The thing is, Asus makes PSUs or at least sells them under their own name - even fairly budget ones with their TUF line up. By not using one of their own, Asus basically says one of two things:
a) Our budget PSUs are shit and we didn't want to deal with lots of RMAs, so we went with the Great Wall instead.
or
b) We wanted to make the most profit, so we went with the cheaper Great Wall PSU instead of an Asus (branded) one and saved a few bucks on this $1,400 (!!!) pre-built.
Either way, it raises a few questions...
Yes, as stated in the video, they are a common supplier and were in many of Corsair's units in the past. You are right that they won't all be good! Glad you (and some others, judging by the comments) are aware that the name doesn't dictate the quality. A lot of people jump to that low-hanging fruit and it's sad to see, so glad to see awareness by the community about the fact that this is just another supplier!
@@nicoj9984 Or c) We use Great Wall as the supplier for our budget line anyway but they charge us 12 cents more if they can't put their name on the PSU... and we guess buyers of prebuilt don't take them apart so paying 12 cents for branding is a completely brain damaged move.
Not everything is a matter of being as evil and greedy a corporation as possible.. sometimes business decisions actually just plainly makes sense.
"Why?" is a question I can't help but ask whenever a prebuilt is the topic at hand.
"Because" is probably the only response you'll get.
There is a place for prebuilts... Like for non-tech parents wanting a PC for the kids... Non-tech multimedia hobbyists.
If retail parts are used then it's an ok option, a bunch of PC users aren't enthusiasts like us DIY builders.
@@amirpourghoureiyan1637 but they aint watching gamers nexus ether
The answer is super simple. Enthusiasts that build their own systems spend a large chunk of the money in the consumer market, but are almost numerically insignificant when it comes to total number of people relative to the total consumer PC market.
The loose screw is probably just a dropped screw while securing the GPU plate. The installer simply didn't bother to retrieve it.
And if it settles really bad on electric contacts you have a problem. (Ok some PSU have a better overcurrent protection than other maybe it saves the day)
That actually looks like an SSD screw to me, the threading on case screws is different.
@@technikchaot not if your using a gigabyte psu…..
@@kingcosmuder8078 That was the hidden joke you found it I'm proud of you. (It wasn't hidden that well but a little bit hidden it was)
Asus has a lose screw charging £329.99 for thier tuff 6500xt pos crippled laptop gpu
This PC reminds me of the old PCs I had decades ago when I used cheap cases and airflow wasn't so important. Cases with just a single side intake fan and one rear exhaust fan were really common and some had an array of holes in the side panel(s) for ventilation. At some point clear acrylic panels became popular and I remember some modders putting CCFLs for lighting, which was the precursor of the RGB lighting that's so common nowadays.
i had a huge case with acrylic side panel and red LED fans on intake/exhaust :D what a cheesefest
Aside from the PSU mounted at the bottom of the case and the drive cages being removed this is basically indistinguishable from the case that came with the Escom Pentium 100 prebuilt I got in 1995. I bet the beige side panels I had for that machine would just slide right onto the Asus.
@@benjimc1 I really dislike what I call as "RGB vomit" that's so common nowadays. I do have RGB lighting for my current PC BUT it's just a single LED strip with a single color turned down to the lowest brightness. The stuff I see nowadays with fans cycling through a rainbow of colors, RAM sticks with LEDs, etc. I find really tacky.
@@misterthegeoff9767 What I really find hard to understand is that it's possible to create a cheap case with good ventilation. It's just a matter of putting enough vents and fan mountings so air can circulate. I'm a medical doctor by profession but I bet I can design a case with better ventilation than this "professionally designed" case. 😁
Yes, back in the mid-late 90s. You can go to the store and buy a case - they are all beige!
Stripped an Antec case and painted it with four coats of Krylon midnight black metallic, then two coats clear. Wet sanded between clear coats. The project took over a week (while working). But, after putting a coat of carnuba wax on it - Mirror finish.
That side hole on the case though. Give me some nostalgia vibes when I managed to strap a case fan as exhaust to aid with the CPU cooling about 10 years ago.
Hell yeahhh another prebuilt review these are my favorite
Bought the one that came with the 5700G and 3060 from the Walmart I work at discounted cause of the Black Friday deal we get, swapped the case to a better one with fans and its been pretty good so far for the month i've had it. I'm still fairly new to PC's but I wanna thank this channel for helping me in learning all that I can!
$999 ROG Strix ?
@@SamLoki yeah that was the one, i was able to get it for 750$
@@shagoremagala epic steal
$1,400 for a 3700x and a 1660 Ti? The market really is in the toilet huh
$999 for 5700g + 3060
It still absolutely baffles me how less computer power you get for so much money. Every time you guys introduce a prebuilt I wait for the price being just some kind of joke.
Ikr it's just fancy cases and RGB and weak performance
They've gotten really close to DIY prices before the chip shortage, though.
Nowadays it's the entire market being ridiculously overpriced, not just pre-builts
ABS prices have gone up since that review. Today, the cheapest ABS system with 10400f + 1660S is $1399.
Damn glad i bought mine on black friday, 11400f 2060 for $1100
8:00 The sheet is there to prevent the LEDs from shining DOWN into the case through the fan holes. Good video 👍
wow...
It’s cheaper to buy a scalped GPU and buy parts separately than buy this junk.
Yeah Asus had 5700g with 3060 for $999
It's not, Lenovo legion rtx 3060Ti + 5800 was sale for 1299€. For reference 3060Ti alone costs 849€. That leaves you 450€ to build 8 core pc with 16gb of ram and 1tb ssd
For gaming sure you could go 12100 + 3070 and save money
@@jaggsta That one is out of stock.
blame nvidia for not making 3060's
No. Unfortunately not. It's cheaper for now.
When I worked at a computer store one thing we did for quality check before shipping a system out, was shaking the system and rotating it to make sure no loose screws where in there
We need a laptop series on this take. Most reviews are obviously aimed at positive, and not just a neutral take on the hardware and placement where it lands.
We also need the software side for laptops too (armory crate) so that companies can fix software bugs especially since laptops now uses digitally controlled mux switches
I second these
They did them in the past but GN is REALLY avoiding them now. Which is sad considering laptops are the better deal these days. Could be also staff reasons too.
I Agree, almost no reviewer talks extensively on downsides or cons only the pros.
People get crazy mad if you criticise laptops they've bought, try to go onto anything LMG and leave warranted criticism of lenovo or dell laptops and watch people explode in rage.
One of my favorite UA-cam series!! PLEASE KEEP THIS GOING!!
Question: Since this series started last year have there been updates to the prices to reflect the growing costs in hardware purchases? I like Asus a lot (I buy their laptops and motherboards exclusively), but I recognize the superior setup and cost for performance the ABS and Lenovo systems offer. However, as inflation in the US has gone through the roof, costs have fluctuated significantly than when these systems were originally tested and it would be interesting to see if the systems still hold that same value in today's market, for better or worse.
Edit: Newegg has the upgraded ABS challenger with the 11400F for $1150 (price increase of $150, may be negligible with the new CPU performance). Per Lenovo's website the (now discontinued) Legion Tower 5i was last priced at $1460, a staggering $400 price increase. With this data the Legion's actual cost for performance dips below the ASUS unit (not significantly, but worth mentioning) while the ABS unit continues to offer good value in comparison
I think this is a valid point, sort of. Ones bought during gpu shortage should get an asterisk next to their price
@@astronemir ... This series was started BECAUSE of the shortage and we are still in it...
You know, one thing (among many) thats crazy to me is the coolers. I got a Freezer 34, was 23€, and does a great job keeping mid end CPUs super cool while being completely inaudible. Yet in 1500 Dollar build, they just stick one of those aluminium garbage cans atop of the CPU? And some pathetic 80mm Fan? They could stick a single 140 or so over the open side, and you'd get actually goo and quiet thermals, which even casual buyers should be happy about. Its almost as dumb as saving the
Quality is available at a premium. While bulk products no one will buy is available for practically nothing as a add-on deal.
The main problem is supply. They can't get such parts(good ram, fans, heat sinks...) in large enough quantity.
@@MOHAMEDFATHALAH Are fans really a limited commodity? At least the consumer sources, eg Amazon in Germany, sells arctics pressure optimized 120mm fans for 6€.
Not to mention, this apparently has been the standard for 20 years or so; these PCs seem to use almost the same ancient technology. Is that even efficient, youd think theres new and better ways to do stuff? There was more than enough before Corona to stop being this bad.
Problem is margins, price points. You'll find spec equivalent prebuilts $200 apart because the more expensive one spent budget on things like fans and materials, rather than padding the margin.
At that point, the consumer wonders why not just buy the $200 more with a better *x* or they buy the cheaper option. In either situation, they didn't buy your prebuilt. Experience is hard to advertise when you sell specs.
Great content, as always.
I love seeing you rip into these oems for not doing the bare minimum. Maybe some day they'll learn.
Also big ups for continuously improving this channel's content quality. I'm hooked.
Love my toolkit thank you!!! Easily my favorite PC merch I've bought from youtube channels (Thanks for the signature!!)
I would like to see GN build a “baseline” PC using parts available on the current market (retailer or secondary) for a certain budget ($1000, $1500) and compare the prebuilt to that baseline PC.
"Better than DELL", that is for sure.
Love the foreshadowing in the beginning to show how backwards it is with it being upside down.
Lovin the videos! I dont know why I find these prebuilt videos so interesting, I have a high end build and I would never buy one of these but I enjoy watching anyway! I'm ready to see some fan content!!! :)
Fun story to motherboard video outputs. I have been building custom PCs for my old sysadmin for years. Built a nice new 3900X workstation for him and went home. Got a text that I didn't test it, ( Which I did and even installed Windows/drivers) He plugged the DP into the motherboard. With a Nice RX6700XT sitting in it. 25 years of experience doesn't mean plugging in the right display outputs. Wish motherboard display outputs came with covers.
The build quality, cable management, and components look great! I would recommend this system to friends and family…if the price was lower…and it’s performance where more consistent.
Great content! Thank you for the video.
well happy that i got lucky getting this, not incredible not terrible, has been running like a dream the last few years, and no loose screw
I've been nervously awaiting this review for months now . I haven't built a system in over 15 years so I don't really trust myself to make my own . So I actually got this exact system and I've only had minor issues with it and this review makes me feel loads better about my buy
This title aged like a fine wine
$1400 for a 1660ti system?! Jesus. Even PS5 has more power and only $599. This GPU inflation sucks
There's a version of this that has 55700G+3060 for $1,000 at Walmart, which is pretty much the best deal you can get lately on a build/GPU. Also worth noting Great Wall is the OEM for Corsair SF750 Plat which is still the best SFX PSS out there (until we finally get Seasonic SPX750, maybe)
We would love to have a laptop series on this . I have a dell gaming laptop and Dell is doing some serious shady stuff that's anti-consumer. Dell had peeled the plastic off of thermal pads on the side of the heatsink that we can see when we are repasting a laptop, but the other side of the pads which are glued to heatsink, has those plastic not peeled which is making those laptops last not much. Please look into this
That Alienware burn as an aside was legendary :D
You know it's sad that pc gaming has come to this. Before covid, you could find so many great deals on used graphics cards. Ebay was littered with treasure. I always had fun finding "budget" graphics cards because you could play around with it to see how much performance could squeeze out of it by playing with the fan curve, temp limit, overclock ect. In the past from ebay I've had-
GTX 780 Lightning
GTX 980
R9 280
R9 290
R9 290X
R9 Fury
R9 Nano
RX 590
GTX 1070Ti
All of them I had gotten for a really good price. Usually $100 or less (except the 1070Ti). But now it's like, you can't even recommend pc gaming to your friends because a "mid tier" pc is $1,000 which is a horrible value when compared to an Xbox Series S. I hate that it's like this. But unfortunately there's nothing we can do to change this.
Crypo miners beat the hell put of pc gamers but covid slit it's throat.
I've built some systems for friends in 2021 and my go to for an ebay GPU is the GTX960 4GB. I can get one for about £100 and while it's no superstar it can still just about keep up and is half the price of a 1050ti or 1650 which is the cheapest stuff I can find in the shops.
@@misterthegeoff9767 Only problem is that's a 7 year old card now and if your buying one used it's really getting in the tooth and is a gamble with it burning out on you. Might as well fork up the extra $250-$300 for a new 1650 with a warranty. Just the move I'd do if I could stretch the budget. Driver support is another thing too.
@@madgodzilla12465 yep also sellers price gouging thier 6 or year old gpus for way more than they are realistically worth , the greed is getting worse all most people care about is making a quick buck or ripping people off. Im saying this at some that got a palit gaming Pro 3080 at £730 I do t believe in overpaying for shit even if I hadn't been lucky I still wouldn't of paid like 400- £500 for a used a 1080 etc
@@averagejackmedia609 Is not the miners. The scalpers are more than the miners.
The reaction Steve had when pulling the front of the case off pretty much sums it up
I have this model. I upgraded the cpu fan with amd wraith prism and replaced gtx 1650 with gtx 1060 and added an extra 8 gig ram stick. It's about as far as i can go for what it is.
So how is it doing now ?
Im looking to buy the G10DK-WB764 model, what do you think about it ?
Did the fan make a difference got the same build and notice my CPU getting pretty high in temp
This looks almost exactly the same as the pre-built Asus that I got back in 2013. Case looks the same, same one small fan inside. I'm still using it, so it held up pretty well.
That downdraft cooler + 90mm extractor fan only setup is the same as I got in my PC World (UK) prebuilt from 2011. In fact, the CPU cooler is the exact same, I think!
And you are right - the radiator block is the "box" cooler of AM3 CPUs, I had a Phntom II 840, with exactly the same radiator, just the fan was AMD branded.
I love that the case is upside down during the intro and conclusion. It’s a nice touch
Wow, who needs DDR5 memory when ASUS, in their infinite wisdom, are capable of running DDR4 at 2.666 THz?! Absolutely stunning engineering work, and impressive that they don't need heatsinks, too!
Lol
why u need heatsink if you can't overclock anyway lol
Asus 8 gb 2666mhz to save money.
Dell 32 gb 2666mhz custom made stick to screw with PPL.
I love the casual yeet Steve does to the front cover to the table behind him.
These pre-built reviews are honestly so informative and funny that I crave MORE!!!!!!!
Entry level gaming PCs for $1400, we're truly living in a dystopian future
Wish you guys would rate some higher-end premades. I like the lower-end premade content but the builds themselves are just so underwhelming. I like seeing you pick stuff apart as far as flaws go, so it would be nice to see what you thought of the more reputable premade companies.
Working on it! We just bought a $5000 pre-built. We have a $2500 one also coming in.
@@GamersNexus Why would anyone spend $5000 on a pre-built when you could have the best of the best using a parts-picker site where you pick the components and they build it.
You'd probably have one the fastest rigs with the best cooling/airflow and actually have change from $5000.
@@GamersNexus awesome I’m really glad to hear this!
@@gavinbuck8130 Simple, people who have money but never heard Gamers Nexus, Linus Tech Tips, or things like Boutique builder or Custom Water Cooling loop… They just went into their chosen computer store and buy the most expensive one/ sales recommended . They literally don’t care what XMP or “K” means.
@@GamersNexus Please don't do it!! I already laugh (painfully though) at these pre-builts. Of course I'm going to watch the Video but I don't know if my heart can take it when it turns out that the $2500 and $5000 builds aren't any better than Dell....
I'm sure someone already commented, I believe the black plastic sheet is to prevent light leaking around the panel, I have seen a similar thing before and when removed light would shine through the panel gaps and look a bit cheap
Your reviews are hilarious, "Didnt deeply offend us" 😄
Loving how the content just keep coming - amazing to see! And as always, well done on the review :)
When will GN release a shirt that says "It's better than Dell"? It's a trademark at this point :P
I'm guessing never, just imagine the lawsuit.
Dear God, the bar is so low nowadays that basic stuff is enough to impress. The "capacitor installed backwards" line was fantastic, I almost spilled my tea. An entertaining and useful review, great work!
I know all the tech youtubers are struggling on the content front at the moment since most of us viewers simply don't want to hear about GPU's since, frankly, the subject is too depressing. Hat's off for working so hard at coming up with imaginative content that is actually relevant to the current pc hardware environment.
I can't believe a no airflow ASUS prebuilt with a 7700K and GTX 1060 3GB was my dream PC back then... now I have a 3070 and 5900X DIY, how times have changed
Hey steve can we get the link to snowball's website? Id absolutely love to read more about the independent box testing
The 3-year warranty actually starts on the product launch date, not the purchase date.
I found that out when I registered the ASUS ROG Strix G15CF.
It seems that ASUS ROG Strix PCs have an August launch date.
These people that upload vids bashing computers miss the point. It's a pre built PC. Part of what you're paying for is the fact that it's prebuilt. Not everyone wants to build their own PC. They want something pre assembled that comes with a warranty that will do what they need. It's a consumer based PC for the average person and it does it's job as it should when you stay within it's limits. What you're doing is like someone who built a 10 second Mustang going to a dealership and nitpicking at the factory models that run 14's and poking fun at the fact that they market them as fast muscle cars but their engines don't have superchargers on them or even a racing harness. If you built something to perform it's always going to be better and cheaper than what comes out the factory. This is just a consumer PC with everything you need for a slightly above average gaming experience. Even at $1,400 you still wouldn't get much better with the price of computer parts unless you had some sort of massive black Friday discount going on. It's easy to take apart something factory and say this sucks or that sucks but put your money where your mouth is and show us a stress test with you getting these machines to fail. Also I how can this dude pretend to be some sort of computer expert when you don't even realize that "black thing covering the back of the front fascia of the keys is a heat shield to prevent heat soak to the front of the computer. Don't pretend to understand design engineering if you ain't an engineer.
Video hasn't started yet but I'm so stoked it feels like it's been years since we had a pre-built review!
I can't wrap my head around getting a new machine with a video card worse than my 1080 I bought nearly 6 years ago. Let alone paying these kind of insane prices.
What did you spend when u bought your 1080 rig???
@@blackfacegaming191 it was a little over $700 for the card. And...ehhh $900ish for everything else. Would have been a lot cheaper but SSDs were expensive back then. The point being that was the best card out at the time. A 1660ti doesn't even qualify as mid-range.
Not to mention below a 2060 you approach console territory for performance.
@@timothygibney159 yea if you aren't able to hit 1440p with your graphics card you may as well just get a ps5 or xsx
@@Gertso It sucks. I finally have a good enough job to buy an overpriced 3080ti for my dual 1440p setup but when I got into building pcs in my 20s this would have killed me! My love for building pcs is even poor folks in the past could make a custom cool looking decent build. I don't want it a rich man's big d*** hobby only
I bought a “ready gaming” Ibuypower pre-built just before Christmas. All name brand components in a case that actually flows air. i9-11900kf, Gigabyte Aourus z590 elite ax mono, 32GB T-Force 3200 RAM, Asus TUF 3080, 360mm AIO, 1TB Gen4 NVME, etc in an Inwin 305 tempered glass case for $2749.
Walmart is literally selling a better version with 5700g and rtx 3060 for $999 so that sounds like a waste of money
What's the brand? ASUS? Walmart? We can look at it.
www.walmart.com/ip/ASUS-ROG-Strix-R7-RTX-3060-Gaming-Desktop-AMD-Ryzen-7-5700G-NVIDIA-GeForce-3060-16GB-RAM-1TB-HDD-256GB-SSD-Gray-Windows-10-Home-G10DK-WB764/797509896
Might be this one but sold out
@@GamersNexus It's an Asus brand. Sold a few at my location.
@@GamersNexus you guys should do some of the MSI models and try and get one with the boards that are named and labeled like the retail ones but are version B or something similar so they never get bios updates after they are originally released despite the retail boards getting constant upgrades. This is there bios policy for all the prebuilts. Its more egregious on the higher end models especially since they specifically advertise them as great to upgrade. I have a triden x z390 version and if i got a 30 series i couldn't get resizable bar working no matter what and even if i bought a model newer with a z490 and a 30 series standard its not available because they don't do bios updates despite the boards being the same as the retail models they are even labeled the same (ie Z390i gaming edge ac)but they often will just not add on a sata connector or a fan header. Its really ridiculous because they would've had to have made a deliberate choice to make the mobos in the prebuilts different than the retail versions of the boards . For example the bios on my computer is from (7/19) while the retail z390i gaming edge ac most recent bios is from (11/21)
To be fair the onboard video appears to be DVI, its somewhat unlikely many people would go looking for a DVI cable vs the HDMI on the card.
That's going to be a crazy dust trap, the amount of dust n fluff my Be Quiet Base 500DX catches in the front dust filter every month would be a nightmare to clean out of the graphics card fans and CPU fans.
All cases should be made around the concept of sucking in vast amounts of air through filters, it baffles me when these prebuilds are bordering on ceiled units. :)
Asus wins the gold medal of the "It's not actively making its components worse via configuration" awards! Or it at least lands somewhere on the podium for silver or bronze. Considering the quality of most pre-builds these days that's pretty impressive for a major brand.
Also I honestly can't remember a single glowing review of a pre-built on GN so getting ANY praise is noteworthy here lol GG Asus your pre-built isn't bad and the Zephyrus G15 (AMD 5900H + Nvidia 3070) I bought from you guys has been fantastic considering its well...a laptop!
So while you still can't trust most brands... at least Asus appears to genuinely be trying to do good!
Even at inflated GPU prices, you can still buy parts to assemble a better performing PC than this one for $1400
Since the GPU shortage is seemingly over I have been wanting to build a new PC. I have never purchased a prebuilt in my life (25 years of pc building under my belt) BUT I just picked up the new ASUS GT15 ROG Strix from best buy (I know I know) BUT it is the updated 2022 version of this PC Steve is looking at . The case has a major redesign USB-C in front and back. The case has open mesh at the front and top and back with shielded tempered glass side and RGB aura sync strips inside and on the front . Has the i7 12700F, 16GB ddr4 3200 ram, Micron PCI gen4 500 GB M.2 boot drive, and a 2TB HDD, ASUS RTX 3060 with back-plate. All connected to a ASUS TUF Gaming b660m-plus WIFI d4 motherboard which is a $160 board alone. I paid $1,136 for the system and replaced the stock cooler with a Noctua nh-u9s and it keeps a steady 37-43 deg at idle/streaming UA-cam and never over 68 while gaming. Reason I got it was I could not build a comparable system for under $1400 on PC part Picker. So far I'm really happy. Its all standard off the shelf pieces from reputable manufacturers with a decent warranty.
You could mod that case pretty good I think
got a similar build for my girlfriend from FB marketplace for $600 and it came with a 1650 and a 3400g. I did change the ram to dual channel. and while this is almost the sam case it came with a tinted acrylic sidepanel.
edit: also it came with one stick of ram, the same cpu cooler and gpu bracket, and psu, but surprisingly has an mATX mobo. it also lists itself as GL10DH on the sticker on the bottom
I don’t understand why people hate on Great Wall PSU’s. They’re better than Gigabyte’s!
That’s not saying much tbh
The element mini chilling with
1400$ for a 1660 ti 💀💀
Its Asus tax. Asus is slowly becoming Dell
3:45 i was waiting for the magic trick and rabbit to appear. 😆
The thing is I’ve seen and almost bought that exact same system at a Walmart for 1000$ but it had a 5600g and a 3060 but I got a abs challenger instead so I feel like this a worst example price to performance
Thing is, those 2 components are very capable as a mid-spec gaming machine, it's such a pity that they are often coupled with crap ram in a case with crappy airflow.
The mark-up on these prebuilts is criminal, they could easily spend an extra $30-$40 on ram and case and have a very respectable gaming PC, but they never do.
I think it would be nice to see the date of purchase next to the prices in the charts. The costs of components changing every day and the price being one of the major factors of evaluation of these products I think it would only make sense.
Wonder if the black sheet is anti static
Got this same model 6 months ago at Sams club for $1,200.00
Adding up the parts, it pretty much breaks even. Mine has been a good experience. Pretty sure you can still find them at that price if they are in stock.
DO NOT BUY ASUS PRE-BUILTS. They are e-waste waiting to happen. ASUS refuses to update their BIOS on a regular even though it's just a re-badged motherboard. Their support is horrible and doesn't care about the consumer at all.
Hope to see something about Aftershock pre build gaming PC in Singapore. There are very little to none professional reviewers in my country that can do a creditable review on pre builds(most of these amateur seems sponsored by the product retailer) and it be a great lesson to give to these reviewers with your in depth reviews. also to bring light and raise bar to the pre build industry of my country.
Check out the MSI Aegis desktops, I ordered one for the research lab I manage and have been impressed with it…basically because it’s all off the shelf and was a good price. 11700k + 240mm AIO + 3070ti and I think we paid about 1800 for it.
I LOVE the Prebuilt series, It is really cool to see how much better of a job I'm doing when I build something myself, but also it has allowed me to advise my friends on what to buy. Your channel for real is saving people a lot of money not buying things like Alienware (Although I don't think most were buying it anyways) I got an ad on a video of yours for Meta Gaming PC's and looked at their Tier 2 Build because it was comparable to what I Have in my PC, and with a couple of Google searches the price didn't seem like a complete scam. Wasn't sure of there was a place to leave suggestions but it would be nice to know if Meta actually builds computers or if they are somehow making bank off of inexperience.
My grandson purchased a pre-built from Best Buy that has an 11700kf and 3060Ti for $1300 ... I was amazed at the price. We did however replace the cheap cpu cooler for a Noctua because the cpu temp was hitting 80 C at idle. Just replacing the cooler brought the temp down to 30 C.
Steve at the end genuinely seems pleased that he thinks this is "ok" is indicative of the state of things right now.
I just built my mom a PC and the same PC would have cost 1300 Euros more from Ibuypower. X570 Carbon wifi max, AMD 5900x, Gigabyte 6700xt 12GB OC Gamer GPU, 64gb ram, 1tb ssd Samsung 980, Corsair Watercooler, silent 750W platinum psu, and Corsair 5000D case. 2400 Euros total.
We paid 900 for the GPU which is almost 400 over msrp but was the only one available.
They must be out of their ever loving minds charging $1400 for this.
Not sure about the Nexus guys but when I bought mine it came with a 30 inch Samsung curved screen with the dummy good resolution . I'm guessing that's where 700 bucks of it goes
I just want to say I liked this review style. Big plus for having the noise review section that I don't see very often and I find to be a big deal.
Got the disappointment 2021 shirt to go with my disappointment 2020 shirt. Thanks y'all!
If I ever get PC parts for a reasonable price, the only way I'll go is building myself. Nothing better than assembling your rig and feeling proud how well it came out.
Steve, regarding Armoury Crate - I recently put together a completely new PC with a 5900X, Asus RIG Strix B550-E motherboard, 32GB DDR4 3600, and an RTX 3080. Even on premium DIY parts (such as the B550-E, which is one of the most expensive B550 boards but has PCIe 4 SLI support, the Armoury Crate bullsh!t is enabled ^BY DEFAULT^ in the BIOS/UEFI. This meant that I installed Windows 11 and once I had set up network connectivity, the Armoury Crate software downloaded and installed itself, along with 5 services, 3 scheduled tasks, and other Asus software. Remember, this was enabled by default by Asus. It shouldn't be allowed. Also, Asus is still shipping products with defective Intel 2.5gbps NICs. Edit: Was going to send an email (tips at etc.) but it's no longer listed.
A blower cooler makes a lot of sense for this case
“The hell are they doin? ..hat the fuck…this is like an arts and crafts project…what, okay…” had me dead at 7:02😂😂😂
The way Steve handles the pre-built cases every time is fucking hilarious.
Hey there hope you can read this comment. There is a guy called Doug DeMuro that has an excellent car review channel. Borrowing from him, I know you don't really "score" the systems but probably would be nice a chart at the end to just place which systems you liked the least and which you liked the most, ok so sort of scoring, to have an overview of all the reviews you have made without having to revisit the entire playlist. Also, can you review the NZXT Starter Pro? Selfishly, that is the one I am looking at for my next system. Currently I have a CyberPowerPC that after some mods is really rock solid and I think the NZXT really wouldn't need anything just in the stock configuration. Keep it up, great content as always :)
I got this desktop with a ryzen 7 5700g, 16 gb of ram, a 3060 asus Phoenix,225 gb ssd, and 1tb hard drive, and it is really good. I just changed the case for a corsair 4000x rgb and a ssd of 1tb. I bought this desktop for 999 at Walmart
You should do a Corsair One. That certainly fits your non-boutique requirement and it's probably one of the most unique pre-builts around.
I know that Lenovo and Asus both have different levels of quality control. However, at the PC store I work at, an older woman recently purchased an i5 11500 Legion desktop with a GTX 1660 Super for $850 USD before tax, this was apparently purchased at Costco. The Lenovo also has dual channel memory for 16gb, a 512gb SSD, and a 1tb HDD. That I think is a very decent deal.
$1400 for that system configuration is a ton of money! Especially for a GTX 1660TI and last gen CPU! I would love to see this system compared to the Legion system for sale currently on Costco's website. The GPU in the Lenovo has a fairly pathetic looking heatsink and I can't imagine it would keep the VRAM cool.
Great video as always! Love seeing the pre-built videos.