Comparing PS5 to $500 Gaming PC Built
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Comparing the $500 PlayStation 5 Disc console to a $500 Gaming PC built. Looking at the performance of many popular game on both PS5 and the budget gaming PC, Spiderman Miles Morales, Hogwarts Legacy, Last of us part 1, Fortnite, Returnal.
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When bro took out the Porsche I came to knew he's doing this video for fun 😂
😂 yeah
Me too
The things with consoles are that the games are optimized for them, so they run the games very well.
It's because the consoles run at lower graphics settings then most people run on there gaming PCs
@@firexallst4rz277Most people choose story, experience and budget over graphics these days
@@firexallst4rz277 Not exactly, old gen consoles maybe but next gen consoles run games in 4k even with ray tracing sometimes. The games are optimized for them, it's not the graphical settings.
@@zwombie they run at 4K with RT, but the graphics settings itself are not maxed out.
@@riot9179 that guys still wrong he said most consoles run lower graphics settings when not everybody has 3K to spend on a PC
optimization plays a huge part as its "easier" to uptimize consoles since theres usually only one playstation and one xbox for example but pc's have numerous builds so it becomes a bit more difficult to optimize
It shouldn't be though if you think about it. What to they create these games on? PC's. Just add more graphics settings, which a lot of games do, and there you go.
@@mv223 They create and test them on a console development kit with the exact specifications of whatever console platform is being used (PS5, XSX) not PC. When they are creating a game in say Unreal engine, they are using hardware and code on the development kit. The Kit is plugged into a PC only to access file/project data etc. This is the reason for optimisation they are specifically developing it on the hardware.
@@mv223 That's not how that works though, sure the code is made in a PC, but the code written isn't a code FOR PC, each system has different firmwares. I mean if PC is JUST PC, why aren't all games in MAC and Unix PCs? If all apps are on a phone, then why is there an iOS and Android version?
You're hypersimplifying here.
@@Valorhammer I get all that. My point is, if they weren't so damn lazy they could easily make it good for all.
@@mv223 No, that's the thing, you said "if they weren't so damn lazy" tells me you don't get it all.
So I'm gonna oversimply: porting a game from one OS to another isn't copy paste kind of BS. It's literally recreating the game to fit that OS.
An analogy would be, someone creating a fully articulated figure out of Legos (no Bionicles) and the same person has to make the same figure - looking entirely the same - but with K'nex.
1:50 my guy is flexing his porsche
@federalbureauofinvestigation21 huh?
@@lcm1220 bro unlocked some hidden memory from deep within
Bro why are u not posting?
@federalbureauofinvestigation21 I am so confused and I think this is my moms old chrome account lol.
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Good video - personally I wouldn't trust a $500 PC for gaming these days - would just go Xbox Series X or Ps5 for that price. =)
yes more better and stable for gaming , i personally wil go far mac mini or macbook if i want to any work task , macbook + xbox series X is perfect combo
you get 5600 and 6600 with 500 dolars
@@MichaelM28 didn't know that's what you guys call the ps5 these days
@@IzaanFitness with Macbook and xbox prices i better Buy a 4070 pc
@@valentinberrelleza nah , thats will not be portable , i prefer work devce can bring anywhere and gaming at home ,so console is the best
I think he could’ve built something better than buying a prebuilt pc.
@@alacarte_32That is actually a pretty important part of the equation. Even if you go for legally obtained games you can get massive discounts on PC. Which adds up extremely quickly with games going up to 90$ these days
@@alacarte_32we are talking about performance not about getting games
@@alacarte_32 you can also get plenty of PC viruses like that buddy
@@don_peleonI never got any virus after installing pirated 400 games.
@@arifzaman4167bro 💀
Not to mention optimizing done by game studios is different for PS5 vs old PC. Few years ago it's performance level was measured around equal a 2070, currently in Alan Wake 2 the PS5 seems to do better as the 3070. The PS5 hardware didn't change but the Studio made more effort for the PS5
what good is optimizing if all the games are trash?
@@blacklist4502no games are trash kiddo. It's just personal preference
@@DeathStriker88 apparently u never played FFX2 lmfao
The PS5 does not seem to do better as the 3070. The graphics are just way lower on the PS5 than on the PC so it runs faster.
@@DeathStriker88 Tell that to all who played Gollum
I have an upper-midrange PC from around 3 years ago (£1200), a PS5 (£479.99) and an Xbox Series X (£399). The consoles definitely offer way better value for casual gamers that only play a handful of games, but PC starts to make a lot more sense if you are the type of person (like me) that plays multiple games every month. My PC outperforms the consoles by a decent margin, but the biggest benefit is that I save £20-40 on every game I buy for it. Over the last three years I have saved well over £1500 on games compared to what they would have cost me if I bought them on console instead due to access to sales, multiple giveaways and key selling sites. PC gaming definitely is a "go big or go home" type of industry though. If you are spending less than 800 on a system, you are likely better off just buying a console.
In my country the consoles are way more value for money for casual gamers even including expensive games which consoles have . Things have changed a lot in the last 10 years
Can save all your money, just pirate the game
on ebay u grab a 1050ti 70-80$ dell opt plex with i5 6500 or i7 6700 50-70$ ssd 20$ flash drive 3$= 153-173$ i sold this many time for 300$ I've only heard good things from my customers 120 FPS on fortnite
The only way you are saving £40 on each game you buy is if you are not waiting for a sale on console or you are pirating your games on pc, and you can buy game keys on console too, at least on Xbox.
@@josef689piracy baby!!
I brought a PS5 Digital for $474 AUD in Australia off Amazon AU. Insane value. It was used in acceptable condition but when it arrived it looks just as new.
Not really you are stuck with 80$ games
But u can get game free on PC😉 u know what I mean.. nevermind I just say it, u can Pirate game and play for free.
@@tonymontaano4072yeah that sacrifice for choosing PS5
@@tonymontaano4072not really. There's always sales for the games
@@tonymontaano4072one question. How did u play games before gamepass? Just curious.
For PC you should also factor in free online multiplayer, no need for subscriptions, access to the largest selection of games available, and cracked games for single players.
let me translate it real quick, get hackers and cheaters for free, access to a larger stolen keys on questionable websites, free games with free virus, troyans and malware on my pc besides I don't give a shit about game developers who make the games I love so I pirate all of their games like the rat I am
Also open for upgrades, mods for games. Spot on with the internet!! 👌 Having to pay subscription on top of already pay for internet.
Exactly just got a pc and have a ps5 but thinking about selling
There are also a lot of things you can do on a PC that is either harder or non-existent on a console.
Ps plus has hundreds of games for for ~12$ a month
yo, not sure who noticed but this dude drives a f**king Porsche. crazy car crazy content. hell yeah
My opinion is that the PS5 and Series X are better for this money because the game is optimized for the hardware, and the consoles have been mass-produced. On the other hand, a PC is unfortunately more expensive, but it offers much more customization. Due to the recent increase in hardware prices, I personally switched to Xbox.
But if you really spend a lot of money on PC, you can get up to 500 fps. I am planning to sell my xbox and get a PC instead. The PC I am buying costs about $585 AUD and provides: Core i7, RAM 16GB, SSD 1000GB, GEFORCE GTX 1060, WiFi, NEW RGB Case, Windows 10, M1. I think i will buy a seperate graphics card becuase 1060 is too low and 2060 or 3000 would be better. The advatage of PC gaming is that it is Upgradable and in future you can get even better graphics card and keep the system up to date with the latest technology. But yes it can get very very expensive.
@dudepowerful5757 bruh the specs you have the 1060 or 2060 are trash and no way they will beat the PS5
To get performance better than the PS5 you will have to spend $850+
@@KingdomRepublic at least, I have 1650ti in my book and it's for nowadays gaming not rly enough. At least rtx 3 series but you need deeper wallet. This is the reason why I decided to Xbox. Fps like cod I play native with mouse without any emulation. I play with stable 120 fps on my gaming monitor. PC is better but it costs more than console. It's impossible to get a 500€ PC. Even if you buy used hardware
Pc can be expensive if you want a great gaming experience but personally I think the console can be costly too considering you have to pay for online service, and the fact that these companies are buying into the idea of digital properties. On the other hand PC has free online service and some new game can be played for free through piracy, the only disadvantage I see Pc having is poor optimization for games of which I know these companies want y’all to upgrade your cards. Your PC thus can be a working space unlike these consoles.
@@juju5460 I completely agree with you. On the Xbox, I have the Gamepass with lots of games and the annual membership is included. On the PC, you simply have the freedom and can do a lot more. You can also "test" games before you actually buy them. xD
I'd take the ps5 any day as developers will optimize their games for console
you acting as if there are no developers for PCs... PC game are better optimize for PC and play like crap on a console look at Ark still has not come to Xbox or PS.... can you host dedicated game servers nope can you host your own movies online nope can you host a webpage no can you host your music online nope can you host your own cloud nope can you do all the PC stuff like make your own mods no and theres a million more things you cant do.... can you play Xbox games on PS no can you play PS1 or 2 or 3 games on PS5 no this list gos on and on and on... its all YES on PC
@@martinlindner7837 Developers would tend to expect you to upgrade your gpu instead of optimizing their games on pc
@@martinlindner7837 couldnt be more wrong on pc versions are "better optimize" on pc, devs nowdays are too lazy to make a good port on pc. its much easier for them to optimize on 2 machines that millions own aka ps5/xsx
Says the guy who can't even play alan wake in 1080p even on 4090 smoothly lmao dude literally all the shit you just listed the average console player does not give two shits about i mean you literally listed nothing but hosting servers like even the average pc players gets a pc just for that lmao
@@martinlindner7837blinded by god knows what lmao, games on PS5 are sooooo much more optimised and run better than majority of PC’s. Half the games that come out on PC don’t work for months, Hogwarts legacy, call of duty, Star Wars, last of us part 1, Elden ring. These games worked and played almost flawlessly on consoles.
You could've gotten similar (and possibly better) performance to the PS5 if you built the PC yourself from used components. Something like a Ryzen 5 5500 and an RTX 2070 Super would've done the trick.
not everybody would want a used pc and obviously it wont last long
I heard it’s a bad idea to build a pc with old used parts
@@hazexo1131 Only if you're buying an old used power supply. The power supply is the last thing you want to fail, because when they fail, they usually fry other components like the motherboard and CPU. Buying everything else used is fair game. You just have to remember that if you break something, you have no warranties to fall back on.
I just built a PC with a ryzen 5 3600, RX5700xt, b550m motherboard, 2x8gb 3200mhz ram, 1tb ssd, a decent cooler, wifi card, all parts are new except the GPU and CPU which are refurbished, and i got a brand new 700w xigmatek power supply for 65$ on marketplace, all for a total of 375$, paying 500$ for that pc with a 1660 is a joke to me
@@procrastinates this is true, it’s all about the PSU ur using and when i buy any used GPU i always make sure the paste and pads is still good. better buy a brand new PSU 80+ or 90+ and a decent brand.
really good idea for a video, ive wondered about this. what i will say is that its easier to justify spending a little more on pc because it can be used for more things and games will feel better on pc because of lower input lag. and also graphics settings between platforms isnt the same, should also be noted that maxing out a game isnt the same quality as console, there is resources out there where people have matched up the settings (digital foundry etc). but its clearly alot easier to buy a console than it is to try find a good value cheap pc, overall decent video
you're forgetting lots of people want a pc to do non-gaming stuff too, so they'd probably be spending at least $300 for a semi-okay laptop on top of the cost of a console, so if you combine the cost of the two you might actually save money, and get better performance for productivity stuff to boot.
No then you need a pc and add a laptop for portability or school anyway. Then it's cheaper to just get a PS 5 and laptop
Issue i’ve started to have with consoles is losing access to your games. Recently got a mini pc and bought a load of my games i either have or had on console. I’m not saying I’ll never lose access to them, but they seem to last a lot longer on PC. If I upgrade to a better PC i’ll still be able to play the games, on PS5 i don’t have access to my PS3 library, i even bought Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon on PSN for PS3 and its on PS4/5 but i have to buy it again.
But on performance what you get with PS5/XBX you cant match on PC without paying a lot more
The performance thing is definitely true, but I personally also prefer PC as not only can it run games, but also it can be used for a HUGE amount of more things like work, running businesses, social media platforms, and so many more that make it a undeniable win for PC when your looking at the grand scape of capabilities. Also PCs can be upgraded as much as you want to your standards and modified in so many more ways. I see PC as the win in any argument here as most people tend to focus on performance and games only when there is so much more to be seen in the grand scheme.
If you need a PC for work, you get a PC for work. Why even compare it to something that exclusively does gaming and media playing? Cause for that purporse it's not even close if you conisder new prices.
With a lot of ps4 games atleast, you get free upgrades to PS5.
@@cybercery5271 That’s true. I have upgraded a couple.
This is called marketing. See Sony made such console and gave it such a price, so that it seems appealing at first, but where they actually earn is when u buy games that cost 5000rupees(60usd) to 8000(100usd) and then they purposely give u 825 GB SSD so that u spend money on extra SSD and if u want 8k resolution be ready to spend 2,50,000 rupees(3125usd) on a new 8k OLED TV. The normal controllers that already costs about 5000 rupees(65 usd) have stickdrift problem, due to which u spend 18000 rupees(225usd) on an edge controller u have to spend more than 2,86,000 rupees(3575 usd) if u want a perfect ps5 setup, there is much more than this but these are the main ones i have listed, and over that the past console games becomes useless which is really annoying, judging by how much u had to spend to buy those games. Few years and the ps4 games will become outdated and all the amazing games u had bought would be for nothing, even I went to buy a ps5 myself but I bought a gaming laptop instead as I can do external activities other than games, thats why ps5 deserves an L, but its gaming experience is great that's one thing great about the ps5.
In contrast to the PS5, gaming on a PC is typically more cost-effective, largely attributed to significant savings achieved through the purchase of games during Steam sales and bundled promotions.
Orrr....
except that sales and bundled promotions exist on the ps5 too
@@animal5423 u can't pirate tho
@@savakujundzic you can.
Just get a jailbroken console.
but then you cant play online and even without jailbroken console u have to pay to play online so its depends what type of gamer you are@@S5000Krad
So what price do you need to match the performance of a console on a pc? Is putting in a little more money to $600-800, where you just get a better cpu and graphics card, with the 16gb ram?
Just shows both Microsoft and Sony were far less conservative this time with the hardware then last gen and actually pushed toward the higher end
Now 3 years into the generation ( usually about halfway) i bet we will see devs really show us what these machines can do it will be interesting
GTA 6 will probably be one of those games pushing it to the limit
The best game's always came towards the end of it's life
Given how many people complain about optimisation id say most people had a pc worse than it in 2022 and 2023 was a wake up call for people to upgrade then the average pc catches up. Say what you want about consoles they are decent value especially at launch
on the flip side of that, it wont be long until games push past current gen consoles' abilities and there's nothing you can do about bad performance since its a console. and when they get old and begin to run poorly just in general, your only option is replacement. You should see my old ps4's performance lol
@@owenbowen2752yes
My question, why the hell are we, as a society, making hyper realistic games, that can't run on most PCs, and struggle, even after optimization, on consoles?
Did someone say money?
Dumb question. Think ahead
I always laughed when PC snobs said you can get better performance on a PC for the same price. The Xbox Series X and PS5 are really marvels for their price point still offering things some of the newer specs can’t
Not really. This guy didn't have the optimal fair parts for a true comparison. Pray tell me what any console can offer that 'newer specs' can't do?
@@mv223 obviously if it was “newer specs” they wouldn’t cost $500
@@kkxi2289 1080 Ti for 150 every day, would beat the PS5. It's already been done. He just didn't have the right build.
@@mv223 what about the rest of the parts? You still need a CPU, PSU, RAM, fans, a motherboard….
@@kkxi2289 You get a barebones kit, you can find them for cheap. Just gotta do some shopping. Processor and ram you can get cheap depending on what you get. Just takes a little time searching.
PC gamer here w/ only a Switch for a console, but looking through your videos it looks like you got a cool channel here. *subscribed
What a wonderful comparison 👍🏽👍🏽 I have a Radeon rx580 with 8gb, I have to turn on FSR 2 with ultra performance to enjoy the latest titles, I was able to play hogwarts legacy at 60fps with a resolution of 1080P the same with lie of P, some games are cheaper on pc but I also have ps5, buying a decent graphic card nowadays is so expensive.
A had a rx580 and upgrade to rx 7900 xt
@@Orlando-hy5viboy what a jump you made, Which bank did you rob? 😂
Ultra performance to play the latest titles lmfao bro you don’t need max settings gtfo
actually amd cards are pretty good for the money right now. especially used ones.
This video does show a lot of the amazing capabilities of next gen consoles, but you also have to relize that this $500 gaming PC is rocking 4 year old parts, before RTX became a big thing, and 4k gaming was still just a dream, if you scalled down to 1080p for all the games, and did medium-low settings you would prob see 100fps or more, and most new pcs cost around 1000-1200 and can run all of these max settings in 4k at prob 40-60fps.
Thats a old gen low end gaming pc by today standards.
The huge advantage u getting on the PC u can extremely easy upgrade ur gpu and the story changes at 180 degrees after ^^
he also could get a sh. rx 6600xt for like 150$ if he wants to save more money that gpu its like between 50 or 70% faster compared to that 1660.
The console is three years old (since release) and the spec would of been locked down a year or so earlier than that so….. approx four years
@sorinpopa1442 it's the point of not upgrading. You missed the whole point.
A 1000 dollar mahcine wont run new games in 4k at 60fps. LOL. A storebought 1000-dollar machine won't even score you a 4060.
That's the entire point. You'll never get a gaming PC for 500 bucks that comes close to comparing to consoles
A direct comparison between console and PC is difficult. simply because the consoles play the games in different settings
usually some mix of medium, high and ultra.
then the vast majority of games are not in native resolution. rather something like 1200p instead of 1440p, then often upscaling or variable resolution. or the classic when rendering on consoles, checkerboarding.
So without thinking too much about it, I would say a €500 PC doesn't beat the console.
Only a system with an i5 10600k or ryzen 5 3600 with an rtx 2080/2070 super will beat the console.
Good thing we on 4090s now
@@bless88614090 cost at least 3 times more than a ps5
Many systems can beat the ps5. The 10600k aint even that great as far as cpus go. The 14600k is out.
I have seen all your videos on reviewing consoles with each other I feel that your opinion about buying the s series is positive! Please tell me whether the s series is better or the x series
You could have definitly built a pc with an rtx 3070 in that for 500$. I think this person is one of them console users.
$500 PCs are garbage. I’d gladly take the PS5 over it. Your PC is ass unless it’s 2k or more
@@jaweel6205 Lol, not like the 500$ pc runs way better than a ps5. You just dont know how to build one. Just because you saw 2 videos featuring non-custom/ all brand new parts doesnt mean all 500$ pcs are bad. My first pc was 280$, runs a little faster than an xbox series s.
@@jaweel6205 You can literally build a pc with an rtx 4080 for 2k. That is like the second best gaming pc you can get in 2024. Could be used for literally anything, and is WAY faster than a ps5, and even whatever the ps6 would be.
@@Dekkrone thing good about pc is that you can also upgrade them in a long run
@@DekkrI agree 100%, Recently I have built a pc around 500/600 dollars.
50 dollars for the Mb, (Asus A320M pro), 200 $ rtx 2070, 100$ cpy ryzen 5 3500x, 60 dollars 16gb Ram and Around 100$ for Psu cables and Case.
I can easily play 2k 60fps, Games Like Elden ring, Kcd, God of war etc, For 4k it's around 30/40 fps.
So I think it's pretty better than a ps5 espaccially because It is a pc and you can use it in so. Many different way.
Let's people buy a ps5 my heart is going to be always on PC ❤
What I find even crazier is that you can get the original model digital edition with the same exact hardware for $400 and that even includes the Controller which is $50-$70! So technically they are selling the hardware for about ~$350.
Dont forget back before June they gave you 160 dollars worth of games for free for buying the console. So in reality you are paying 190 for the machine and dont forget its got its on streaming stick which is 40 dollars.
@@jg7702 Damn good games too. Bangers
@@jg7702I fucking missed it mannn
00:02 PS5 is a cost-effective and convenient option for playing high-quality games.
01:16 Comparing a $500 PC to PS5 in terms of performance.
02:32 PS5 performs better than a $500 gaming PC
03:49 PS5 outperforms a $500 gaming PC in terms of game performance and compatibility.
05:02 Comparison of gaming performance between PS5 and $500 Gaming PC Built
06:19 PS5 delivers better performance with stable 30fps compared to a $500 gaming PC
07:43 PS5 outperforms a $500 PC in terms of performance.
08:58 PS5 is a clear winner over a $500 gaming PC
The answer is simple: devs optimize games for consoles, they rarely give a fuck about PCs. Because of this, either you're willing to spend 1000$ for a good gaming build that will overpass the absence of optimization, or you spend your 500$ on a new gen console.
You should compare it on cost of ownership - eg how much power do they both consume and how much will you end up paying for subsidstions
to be fair you should compare it to a 399 PC, it is the price of the digital PS5 and a PC doesn't have a 4K BR player included
You have to pay $80 a year and you’ll be stuck with only online purchases and if you wanna buy a game when there is no sale it will be rough
@@Riptide2k right
@@Riptide2k sales do come often on ps5 and isnt steam only online purchases too? kinda invalidates your point
@@Riptide2klol you can play free online on console without pay a subscription mate.Just play FTP game on console.
@@m4b9 No the problem with the ps5 digital is your locked to one store at least with the physical version you could find good used deals and I always liked that about consoles and the difference between the ps5 digital and pc is it’s locked to one store whereas pc had so much versatility
I 'm lucky enough to be able to use both console and PC and I like both. One thing that is rarely considered in these comparisons is the time period. What I mean by that is the console is not upgradable, so you basically pick a generation, say PS5 in this case, and that will perform well for what? 6 years before the PS6 comes. Now you match that to a PC that you will not upgrade either for that 6yrs. Why because to run a $500 console also takes about $80 per year for the Essential membership that would be another $480 over the 6yrs. That presents more options in the budget.
you don't need essential? that's just an xbox thing i believe. you can just buy the games, like on pc, and be done with. i mean hell, even ps4 can run fortnite, cod everything smooth at 30 or 60 locked. im not big into 4k or whatever, so i just got the ps5, gonna play the games i like, and and pc exclusive i guess that stays there
@@adamelghalmi9771 you have to pay to play online on consoles and 30 fps is not smooth at this point neither is 60fps
@@DeadPiixxel thats just xbox, im a simple gamer, i play some COD, gta, fortnite, rdr2, uncharted, stuff like that. im not gonna spend 4k on a pc just to play those same games on keyboard and mouse, which i personally don't prefer. its my opinion, we all have them. besides its gonna last the next 6 years till i buy the next one. thats just me
1:49 - ain’t no way bro flexed his Porsche on me
You can build a pc surpassing ps5 for around 500 for sure
Tell me the specs then bro
I like how nobody is mentioning that they're both quite convenient to play the games with, but you get a ton more functionalities with a PC rather than just gaming.
Why would someone mention that. This video is about which performs better at "Gaming", not which one is better for other practical uses.
@@bruhmomentofficial2355 because a pc is still a multi tool unlike the console.. there so it has to be more functionale in other ways sticks and stones comparing u can trow em both but what does the most damage..
Yes you have quirky and unique thoughts.
@@MrCrazysatan Multi functional or not, still doesn't change the fact that pc with same console price range is not even close to perform as good as console. I love pcs but facts are facts.
6:58 why isn't 1800p an actual screen resolution??? it will be amazing!!!!
For people looking to find or build a similar PC, you really want a graphics card with at least 8 GB of VRAM (video memory). The RX 580, RX 5700, RX 6600, GTX 1070, RTX 2060 or anything higher end are all decent options that have a bit more video memory and will improve game compatibility and performance.
All consoles are made on a PC, this PC is forever.
Honestly you could get a better PreBuild for about $500-$600 that have a better GPU that’ll give you a bit better bang for the buck. GTX 1070 is about 24% better from the base GTX 1660 and the best I found being a 1080ti with about 81% better performance from the GTX 1660.
Holy shit I've been scrolling so long to find a comment like this, thank you.
For Fortnite, you should try Performance mode and optimizing some settings.
A potatoe can run performance mode, it should be about getting good graphics with good fps, like the PS5 or PC that matters
@@Breakerisaacbtw all pros use perfomence mode so think lil bro
@@dluxfps6892I am and I'm still sticking to good graphics with good FPS.
Who cares what the pros do, I just play for fun!
@@Breakerisaac bro fortnite u dont need good graphics idiot lots of people want more fps to be competitive lol
@@dluxfps6892is there any reason to that actually?
Seeing your interior makes me miss my Porsche Boxster. I had it for 5 years and sold it 6 months ago.
P cars are the best, this one’s a 911
What job do you do to afford such a car? I’m currently in university studying computing and I’m just wondering…
You also have to consider that console RayTracing isn't the same as PC RayTracing with something like an RTX card.
The way I think of it is if a console is $500 and a non-gaming PC is $400, that means my budget for a gaming PC is up to $900. If you put a PC in that range (or less if you include the Series S) against a console you would see some very competitive results.
Yes, and it's much more fun playing games on a PC, a console is a device for games a PC is an entertainment system.
@@owenbowen2752completely disagree console is way more fun and you can play literally laidback. on pc I have to be hunchforward and takes more effort
@@permabearxbt do you not realise you can connect a controller to a pc
ye he never heard of controllers on pc or just plugging things to a tv and using Bluetooth keyboard and mouse on a couch xd, bro lives in the 90s@@delayedcreator4783
@@permabearxbtOr you can sit back on the chair and relax like a normal human.
not bad, should have just gotten a semi older workstation and put in like a 2060 super, maybe some more ram
1:50 which Porsche does this man have ? I love the design
What do you think if gaming console start to make it support keyboard and mouse. Then it run browser, Office, or other light productive/multimedia stuffs. As someone who grow up with ps2. If i give my kids PS, i want it able to do schoolwork and study too. Like its powerful enough right? It could be more like game-specialized PC
As an "older" gamer (38), it's just wild to me that we can even have this comparison. Back in my day, consoles could never match up to PCs. Their value back then was just simplicity and easy couch multiplayer, but definitely not performance. The fact that you can have a serious conversation comparing the value proposition based on performance between PC and console shows how much console gaming has changed in recent years.
Bro no offense but with that hairline you got , you might as well just go fully bald bro. You look funny now 😢
Great video but games in regards to consoles are optimized specifically for PS5 and settings sometimes can’t be replicated on the PC. Also the tech in the PS5 is better due to the age in the tech in the PC. The 1660 wasn’t designed with Ray-tracing in mind and is basically a 1080p /1440p card. PC gaming is about creating a custom gaming experience on an open platform. If you’re looking for just gaming then the console offers a less expensive option since Sony and Microsoft usually make their money initially from the software sales and sale their consoles at a loss
Yeah but thats also the point of the video, for 500dollars you arent gonna get uch in terms of a good pc. Having a pc is an expensive investment which you will only lose money on. So if youre just looking for an easy and more inexpensive way to play games consoles are probably better.
@@mikkelbendixen6595 You will always lose money on PC as long as you only game on it. It can as well be your workstation and you can earn money with it, which you cannot say about console.
Exactly, A PC solely for gaming doesn't justify it's price but if you wanna do other things on it like programming on the side like me than the PC becomes the obvious choice
1:50 I know bro did not just close the trunk on the Porsche 911 😂
you're right it was a ford pinto from the 70s
Great video pal, I'm sure the sony company did a correction for it's value ration in that PS5, cause as I remember the previous PlayStation consoles can be defeated for their value like the PS4 for example
Considering dropping my PS5 for PC gaming, sick and tired of making compromises between quality/RT and frame rate. Problem is trying to justify the initial outlay for a PC setup. Free online and cheaper games offset it though.
This is funny because I'm dropping my PC for my PS5. Just gonna get a steamdeck as I play my handhelds way more than my PC.
You'll be deciding between more than those two things on PC.
500 bucks for a 1660? No way.
At this price range you could build one using at least the RX 6600. Maybe even 7600 if you're tuned in the best offers.
yep + 8GB RAM instead of 6 GB and overall much more GPU-Power. GTX 1660 is simply an odd choice.
what are some precautions to take when buying a pc on marketplace?
do your research on the parts the pc has(specifically CPU, GPU, and RAM although RAM is about the easiest upgrade) and decide what resolution and refresh rate you want to achieve , if parts aren't listed stay away. Most people on FB Marketplace in my experience ask way too much for their old pre built, like they want what they paid for it.
So I’d like to know, is building a PC truly worth it for gaming? I have a ps5 and have been looking into building a pc ( 1 - 1.2k ) for the build. Will it even compare to the way a ps5 runs? Should I just stick with the ps5 and not waste money. Any opinions will help
Definitely. I'd try to get an i3 12100f with an rtx 3060 12gb if I were you (you'll need other parts to support it) which will definitely run better than ps5. If you can afford it, you could also go for a 3070 instead.
The PS5 uses upscaling And dynamic resolution scaling to get its performance. That PC is actually more powerful. This is actually not an apples to apple's comparison. I think this guy said he was in Canada. Well, here in the US, you can definitely find A PC with a RTX3060 in it for $500.
Hell nah man 3060 it self cost more than 250
@@muhammadaminxojaturgunov6461ikr
that pc is weaker than a ps5
Where are all these PCs? By that logic something with a 1080 in it should be 150 at most 😂
At least in the PC you can upgrade the parts you want also you don't have to pay fees to play online.
Lol who play online games on console you need to know japanese build console just for offline game since western damand so called online experiences and this happen
To make it comparable you would have to also buy a used ps5 and search for a pc with that price. Then you would probably be at 380$. Also you would need to subtract the prices of ur keyboard and mouse from this as the ps5 comes with a controller
where did you saw that the games where in ultra settings on the ps5 ?
The other thing to consider is that windows is way more versatile, you could do way more than just game on it. Also there are some games not meant for console that just work better in oc
Exactly a PC solely for gaming can not justify it's price as the PS5 is much better value
However if you want to do other things like programming on the side like me then the PC is your choice
But a lot of people should go with PS5 since they only wanna game
@@KingdomRepublic
PC has
-Mods
-Can play Games with Max Graphics and Unlocked FPS
-Can play Emulated Games: Nintendo's, Playstation's, SEGA's, Arcade, Xbox's All in 1 Machine with whatever Input you want
After all on PC is where the games are made.
BUT if you still want a Console just get Xbox Series X that has better value than a PS5 with Game Pass + Backwards Compatibility ect.
@@GamerdaXtremzxbox does not have good exclusive games like Spiderman and god of war
@@anishsaha9672but… god of war isnt an exclusive
@@anishsaha9672not anymore at least
Fortnite doesn’t run at native 4k on the ps5. It has lumen and nanite a drops to 864p at times (max resolution it handles is 1836p). Digital foundry made a video about it.
Fortnite runs at 1836p INTERNAL upscaled to 4K using TSR @ 60ps locked with Lumen
and another mode without Lumen is dyn 1440t upscaled to 4K @ 120fps
@@Teja no it runs at 55% of 4k on average on the ps5 according to digital foundry, which is 1600p
same shit doofus just cos it DROPS to 1600p occasionally doesnt mean shit @@oo--7714
blatant misinformation aswell. Fortnite literally has two modes one with LUMEN and other without LUMEN its from the same digital foundry@@oo--7714
without lumen its dyn 1440t upscaled to 4k @120fps
and FYI even latest PCs dont do native 4k they are using DLSS so why do u expect PS5 to do native 4K with LUMEN that too exactly? are u a fool?
But u can get game free on PC😉 u know what I mean.. nevermind I just say it, u can Pirate game and play for free.
Did you check if the pc you bought actually had what it said? I have a 1650 and a 11th gen i3 and it ran Jedi survivor easily
Tip for buying used, sometimes you get even better deals from folks selling a case with parts in it. You cn make out like a bandit with a system that’s only missing a gpu
The reason why these consoles run how should I say better then that budget PC you have is because with consoles they really scale the resolution down or they cut corners when it comes to certain graphics settings with the PC that's not the case. For instance on Digital foundry videos they compare both the PC and consoles settings to see what the console settings are running then they try to match those settings on PC.
Not only that he was using the wrong GPU. Lots of stuff missing in this video, it's misleading.
paying $500 for a 9th gen i5 and a 1660 is crazy considering you can get a 5th gen Ryzen 5 or 13th gen i3 and RX 6600 build *BRAND NEW* for the same price, yes, the 6600 is still behind the PS5 but just add FSR 3.0 and Fluid Motion Frames and you get PS5 level performance
Of course this PC is not gonna be as good as a PS5, it's not even as good as a Series S 💀
Video was totally mismatched and biased.
@@mv223fr all this guy's videos are the same way 💀
I don’t know what software you are using to count framerate but 45fps in Performance RT mode for Miles Morales is just incorrect. Maybe it was a bug but my LG C2 tells me Performance RT can go straight up to 80 fps no problem with no frame doubling
you can build a pc with 4060ti and i3 in 500$ budget and it gives you 22tflops that basically two times ps5’s 11tflops
Ps plus for 5 years should be added to the pc build budget. A pc can easy go for 5 years. So the budget is 1k. And for 1k you can get a 3600/5600 with a rx6650. Or if you are greenteam 12100 with a 4060.
For 1k you can get a 3080 build
@@Riptide2k not 2ndhand. A 3080 is like 800 here. My build includes 1win drive and 1 nvme/decent case and a cooler. 750watt semi modulair. And an full atx mobo with all the bells and whistles. Built it for my cousin 4 months ago.
@@samimermer1982 well in the U.S you can build something much better then that for 1k and if you want all new you can get a rx 6800
@@Riptide2k tax is high in the netherlands. It's also included in the price.
You can easily get 12400F + 6700xt for 900E
so hes getting 45 fps at 4k settings ultra on spiderman for pc, then he turns it down to 1080p and only gets 70fps. somethings not right here
1080p with FSR 2.1 ON, the fsr is a big factor
the gpu isnt being able to be used at 100% because of such a low resolution and qulity preset and fsr, if the quality preset was higher then the pc will give more or same fps without even fsr because it will get used more
Someone had to make this video. Thank you
I don’t know what it’s like wherever you live, but for me in Australia, I was able to find a used PC for my dad with a 2070 Super and ryzen 5 3600 for only $550 AUD (360 USD). This was only about 6 months ago, and there were deals like this all over Facebook marketplace (with a bit of searching and waiting), it wasn’t a particularly unique case. PC still works fine at the moment, the only downside was the awful case, which most people don’t mind anyway and it’s cheap to replace
both have are good and bad in their own ways, pc's are a bit more expensive but offer more fancy things like greater fps and graphics customization and you dont have to be forced to pay monthly subscription to play online, consoles on the other hand are a bit cheaper and offer great game optimization, can feel more comfy to play and is more fun with friends, even though you have to pay the subscription and you cant upgrade it or mess with a game's settings
Finally, found someone with a brain
@@abhinavgangwar4690 Lol.
You mean someone that isn't willing to put time into a better system because, "convenience" over cost.
@@raspiankiado no, i mean someone isn't willing to put time into a better system because perhaps that someone cant afford the better system. Not to mention, personal preferences play a part as well. Of course nothing is better than a pc but you can't force someone to buy something specific
you dont have to pay the sub if you dont play online
One difference is previous generations of consoles, a PC for the same price 3 years into the consoles life cycle performed better. This generation of consoles were extremely powerful for the price, and hardware, especially gpus, have gotten significantly more expensive.
and if you had actually done the digital version which is the true comparison vs PC then its even more of a difference in price.
I would still go with pc because in a few years the $80 a year will make it not worth it and you can sell pc parts to upgrade it and I specced out a $580-$604 pc that beats the ps5 and has really good upgrade options
@@Riptide2k You also do that with console.
I have a 1650 with a 3200g and instead of buying a 6700 or 6650xt and a R 5500 which would be the minimun in price to match the PS5 Cpu plus the necessary PSU since I only have a 500w one, I sold the ps4 to the very same store I bought my ps5, the PC upgrade would have cost 450 dollars, while the ps5 was 200.
SInce I only play single player games I dont need Ps plus.
If I were to buy only full price games ( which I dont unless its something like God of War Otherwise I wait at least 6 months or until the first sale) I would have to buy 25 games on the ps5 to make the dfference with the PC upgrade, I dont even own 20 games on my psn account a since I bought the ps4 in 2016.
But more importantly and the real reason I upgrade console first than my PC was due to the PS exclusives, I wanted to play XVI and Spider man 2 without having to wait years.
@@fanmovie357 I don’t think that’s a fair comparison to start with because the 1650 and 3200g is kind of trash. Anyways most people need online look how many people want to play mw3 and the ps5 digital is kind of bad in my opinion because your locked to the play store and waiting 6 months to play a game is annoying to say the least
@@Riptide2k The 3200g and 1650 are a more powerful combination than the ps4, the point was, I can sell a console to a store right away in my country, I cannot do the same for PC components.
Having a digital ps5 is the same as having steam, and I never bought a disc game for my ps4 because in my country the PSN sales get usually far cheaper, Last game bought was Lost Judgement for 14 dollars, the same game goes for 20 at the lowest where I live.
Your calling a gpu that cost 140 to 400 on average calling them trash and your telling someone a console isn't worth the money go snort some more coke bro
Last of us part 1 worked fine for me with a gtx 1660 super. And I used to get around 30 to 45 fps in custom high settings
Initial cost of a PC is higher than a console, but down the line a PC will give you the better deal than a console, since you can always upgrade your hardware for newer gens. Your SSD/HDD, Case, Power Supply, Fans etc. can all be transferred to your next build, and often you can still use the RAM aswell. So you only have to upgrade your Motherboard/CPU and GPU, sometimes not even the Mobo, and for the price of a PS5 you can easily find parts that outclass a PS5 in that regard.
yep. my ps4 has gone to shit in terms of performance now and theres literally nothing i can do bar complete replacement. Something goes wrong or slow on my pc, all i got to do is swap the bad part/parts for a new one.
A few things that are important: You can use your PC also for doing work/school, watching youtube/twitch, doing mails etc. Also you can upgrade the PC when you have more money, and it isnt that expensive because you can buy used parts. Also I think he would have gotten a better performance if he would buy single PC Parts, also used.
I absolutely love my PS5! It's a fantastic console, especially for someone like me who enjoys diving into captivating story games rather than intense competitive ones. The PS5 handles most games seamlessly, delivering stunning visuals at 4K with 30-60FPS or 1080p at a buttery-smooth 120FPS. However, if you're a hardcore gamer investing at least four hours daily in competitive play, a high-powered gaming PC might be the ultimate choice-I'm starting to feel the itch for one myself!
I heard u could use a ps5, to connect it to ur monitor and play it like a pc
Its 4k120
May be but for me since play a competitive game for a long time start to move away, I guess my 4 gaming PCS not that bad with mix Ryzen 5 3600x/3600 + 32gb ram + 6600xt / 6700xt all run gaming well enough for me but after long day with work I don't know I enjoy build PC anymore haha
Other problem is gaming optimize is not easy on pc since that so many configurations. But most modern game should run fine but I'm still have crash problem sometime but it not serious need time to figure it out sometime compare to console that just power up and play. I think all good both PC / Console
But I guess it personal preference can't be wrong with console or pc but now I'm just lazy and play ps4 but may be if some RTS come out i will sure back to pc
@@WassinOnCrack To the best of my knowledge, the current situation is that the quality isn't as high as expected. Personally, I've noticed a downgrade to FHD even though my TV supports 4K at 120Hz. The capability of the PS5 is advertised on the box to handle 4K at 120FPS and 8K; however, it seems that the full potential is yet to be realized, and further development is required to achieve those specifications.
@somebody4763 damn, I think I'm going to save up for a pc anyway...much more possibilities, especially in the games I play
If you ran dual channel then you would see a giant difference. I wonder if the RAM is running in dual channel.
I would go for the pc in this video as i do more than just play games
Great video
If you were to match the specs of the pc with the specs of the ps5 you could possibly get the same results keep in mind you may have to run vsync on the pc to lock the frame rates
Thanks for basics 101 of pc gaming
you should pair 1660super or 1660Ti with i5 9400F so it wouldn't do any stutters and bottlenecks and first of all you should built your pc not to buy the prebuilt ones because there could be many scams with these devices.
Not prebuilt. Its just a preowned pc
I just saw the dashboard and I was like .. it’s a PORSCHE baby ! 😂😂❤
here in brazil the ps5 costs R$ 4.000,00 ($ 800,00 USD), but with R$ 3.000,00 ($ 613,00 USD) you can build a pc with Ryzen 5 5500, RTX 3060 or RX 7600, 16gb Ram and 1TB NVMe SSD. R$ 3.000,00 is a lot of money for any normal brazilian, but is way better to spend that money on a PC than buying a PS5, only rich people gets a new gen console here. Most of the people that likes games just build a PC with used parts or parts from china (not anymore because of new importation taxes), this comparison would never make sense here hahahahaha, but its nice to see the PS5 performance against a $ 500,00 USD PC.
If the PC is used or made out of used parts, wouldn't it be more fair comparing it to a used PS5 which you'd be able to get for cheaper, you just simply can't beat a console for the price.
That wasn't the point of this video
@@challenger516 A fair comparison wasn't? ofc
@@alvzcizzler If it were a fair video, then he would be using a card like the 1080 Ti, which is easily had for 150. It would wipe the floor with the PS5.
@@mv2231080Ti is weaker and you need a whole lot more on a PC than a old ass GPU lmao and you can get a used PS5 for cheaper than what that PC would cost, try again later
@@mv223 Yeah exactly. The Toasty Bros did a video where they built a budget PC that beat the PS5.
i think that with used parts you would get much more performance than that pc you bought
Yeah.That is the way to go if you want a system not only for gaming.And there are a lot of not AAA but great games those aren't available on consoles or not in full form.
What's pretty sad is you didn't even check for server tower PC workstations. I built a budget PC for 550 bucks, a dell tower 5810, with a 1650 v3 and rx 6700xt. I was easily able to get above 150 fps on almost all of the games i have. Pre built or used pre built aren't good plain and simple. Neither is the PS5, its a good console but if you know nothing about how to build a proper PC than don't bother buying PC. If you want performance and quality for a good price you have to know what to look for. Dell and HP workstations have rather good upgradability for relatively the same price as new gen consoles. Workstations specifically go for around 150 bucks used on eBay, and if you cant spend 440 bucks on a gpu and ram, why are you buying a PS5 for nearly the same price.
Is a rtx 3050 better than a series x i have a series x but also want a pc that can run the same graphics but also about same fps if theres any rtx build that cheaper please do tell me e.g if a gtx 1660 is about the same i would get it cuz my budget is between £500 -£1000
If you build your own PC with used parts, you'll get way better performance than a PS5, plus the joy of building your own computer. Also, there are a ton of budget options nowadays. You should definitely consider it.
not really better than PS5 but definitelly better than the one from the video
That’s just bs if you’re on a budget you’re still gonna need in the range of 1000+ before reaching close to consoles this gen especially since the PS5 is somewhere between a 2070 and a 2070ti. Add that to the fact pc ports are dogshit nowadays there’s an obvious value aspect that consoles destroy pc in. But at the end of the day for people who don’t care about value and can get maxed out pcs budget doesn’t matter does it.
If you buy used PS5 for 300-350dollar, you'll get way better performance than a brand new PC lol. imagine getting 800gb gen4 ssd and dualsense controller for 350dollar
@@CrocoDylianVT i think better than ps5 could be possible, the one in the vid was lowkey ass 💀
@@Ali-vk6jm maybe look for a used 6700xt if possible, that card outperforms the ps5
One thing worth mentioning you don’t have to pay to play online so technically you can pay less overtime for example Xbox live gold is $60 and you pay for it for 5 years that’s $300 the pc overall can be cheaper
PC users will spend $2000 over 5 years "futureproofing their system".
If we're saying things "worth mentioning".
If you want to look at it that way, using an older console as an example, PS4 & online subscription from 2013-2020 would cost a total of £770. If you built a PC in 2013 with a £770 budget it would struggle to play any tripleA game released after 2018 at 1080p/60fps. Budget PC hardware is not future proof.
@@labibahasan8302 I suppose that’s true but the pc does more then the console
@@LoganLayne66 That's a totally different situation and irrelevant to the conversation. Nobody is buying a console for productivity, so there's no point bringing it up. If you're comparing home entertainment capabilities, a console is far more capable & cheaper.
@@anita.byou can do that but you dont have to do that. You can upgrade at any time at any price range you deem worth it. That's why it's advised to not overspend because time makes any console obsolete and it doesn't make financial sense to buy a 4090. which you buy when "financial sense" doesn't matter. The ps5 and pc will degrade in performance overtime so make a pc youd be happy with the performance with years down the line. Which leads nicely into mid gen upgrades if/when we get one which also adds to the cost. Moreso if you collect consoles making it another 500 dollars purchase. We can also count in the new console itself since assuming backwards compatibility you can do like pc gamers and hold out as long as possible but if you want the nice new shiny performance you will have to shill out whatever that price is and whatever games you rebuy for your new box.
Like someone once said :PC units come in so many configurations, Cpu, Gpu, Ram etc. It's so very hard to optimise games for such platform whereas consoles have the exact same configuration for thousands of units, therefore it's easier to plan and execute games for that. However, a Pc can play all kinds of games both Pc and Pc ports for consoles, you can use them for work, 3D rendering, AI and all sorts of other tasks. Again, the age old dispute, consoles versus PC goes down to function : a console only has one function. Also, there are various users, myself included, who simply can't get used to playing with a controler, only mouse and keyboard
should have built the pc yourself
You can't take your current unlocked fps and use it as avarage compared to a locked vsync on ps5. Ps5 30fps mode is probably running in the 70-80fps to keep the minimum above 30.
Not 70-80, more like 40-45
if it was 70-80 it wouldve been capped at 60 not 30 lol
@@kevinakbar1681how would you know? He is getting 45fps when looking up at the sky on a gpu that has half the performance of a ps5.
c'mon look at the gpu t'flops then.. its just plus minus there...
70-80 is exaturated. But he is right. If you have locked frames the game always have 7-15 more frames on reserve
Not to mention you can get this performance on the digital edition for like $390
Wait. I played TLOU Part 1 and Jedi Survivor with 1660 Super with 6GB VRAM too. I have no issues with video memory on both of those games. I wonder why 1660 is giving you the vram issue despite it being 6GB also.
4:27 THIS RIGHT HERE. Thats the reason I will never ever play games on PC again. I don't want to deal with it. I value my time more than any of you PC gamers can imagine. I am 34, want to get into fitness, 6'3, fairly attractive guy, with lots of interests etc. Also I want to have my own family in future so again time is crucial. So following that logic I leave bs full of errors pc gaming to you. NO TIME. PERIOD.
@@JokerX350but the modsssss man the fucking modsssssssss 😢
@@JokerX350"These days the gap between consoles and PC is so tiny"... I want whatever you're smoking...
@@JokerX350 Everyones qualified for an opinion of course, but what you're saying is misleading. There may be a tiny gap between *your* PC and a PS5, but the difference between most PCs and consoles is massive. Just wait a couple of years, your PS5 will stay the same when games get more and more demanding hardware wise, and then just like the PS4, it will be 30FPS gaming again. It's happened to every console. Every console always shines only for a while.
@@JokerX350 OK, now I'm convinced you're high on something. I'm sorry, go look up the performance of the 780ti today vs the PS4. For example, just one example, the 780ti runs GTA Online easily at 60fps mid-high graphics, but the PS4 struggles to maintain 30fps. Don't believe me? Look it up yourself. It seems your hardware knowledge is not very good. These mainstream consoles never aged better than a PC, not my opinion, it's simply a fact. There are more Steam accounts than PSN and XB Live accounts *combined*.
@@JokerX350 The PS4s weaker CPU isn't proving your point here, it's proving mine. If a PC had a weak CPU, you can buy a better one for 200 dollars, instead of buying a brand new PC.
Now to your RDR2 arguement:
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It seems I was right about your tech knowledge. The video is the 780ti is running RDR2 1080p, at 30fps, with mid-ultra settings. The specs are in the description. Today, a PC like that would be something like 150 dollars. Whereas the PS4 is still about 250. Proving my point buddy, consoles do not *age better* than PCs.
Processador AMD Ryzen 5 5500 "Zen 3" 6-Core 3.6GHz c/ Turbo 4.2GHz 19MB Cache SktAM4
109,90 € -
Motherboard Micro-ATX Gigabyte B550M DS3H (rev. 1.0) - Recondicionado
79,90 €
Memória RAM Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4-3200MHz CL16 Preta
76,90 €
Caixa Micro-ATX Nox Infinity Epsilon RGB Vidro Temperado Preta
39,90 €
SSD M.2 2280 KIOXIA Exceria G2 1TB 3D TLC NVMe PCIe Gen 3.0x4
44,90 €
Fonte de Alimentação ATX EVGA BR 750W 80 Plus Bronze
79,90 €
Placa Gráfica Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 6600 8GB GDDR6
213,90 €
total 645,30 €
a little over but i live in europe where things are more expensive including the ps5 where the cheapest was 600 euro so would still build the pc over it and would do more than just gaming
News Flash: People don't buy a PC just to play only games on it
That’s why you build a pc instead of buying a cheap pre-built one
The labtop hes using is better then my entire setup