K-Pop Racism, Cultural Appropriation, Colorism, & Cultural Insensitivity | History + Black Culture
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Key colorist [ENG/HD] 131031 Taemin Calls Kai for Friendship Speed Quiz @ Sukira • [ENG/HD] 131031 Taemin...
Taemin colorist [ENG] Taemin with Kai @ SM Art Exhibition in COEX 120811 • [ENG] Taemin with Kai ...
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141101 Wendy's Funny Moments Cut (C-Radio Idol True Colors) • 141101 Wendy's Funny M...
TALKMON 레드벨벳 웬디가 알려주는 잘나가는 서양언니 st(가십걸 보는 줄ㄷㄷ). 180305 EP.8 • TALKMON 레드벨벳 웬디가 알려주는 ...
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Yuta calls Haechan burnt [무한의 방] NCT 127's LIMITLESS ROOM EP.03 • [무한의 방] NCT 127's LIMI...
Chenle “a bit tan” 심장에 무리오는 비주얼! NCT DREAM, 해찬&천러 편 [존잘러스] • 심장에 무리오는 비주얼! NCT DREA...
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When you keep making the same mistake for years, it’s *not* a mistake 🤷🏾♀️
1/7/20 Update: 13:37 KBS blocked my video in all countries so I had to cut out the clip of Yuri doing her “Yo you d!e” impression of Black people 🤠 anyways, here’s the original clip (starts at the 20 second mark ua-cam.com/video/WIibOy3hCiw/v-deo.html)
12/30/21 Update: I was told by a viewer that the original source has also been taken down. I’ve reuploaded the clip KBS made me cut out of my video here ua-cam.com/video/f-I92jiyaCE/v-deo.html
BTS video ua-cam.com/video/L9Z1y1z4FYE/v-deo.html
Hair appropriation explained- you can skip to 3.16 at this link ua-cam.com/video/JC-bTkDxg2U/v-deo.html
The CROWN Act www.glamour.com/story/the-crown-act-banning-hair-discrimination
Contact your Senator www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
Senators’ twitter accounts www.sbh4all.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/116th-Congress-Twitter-Handles.pdf
Mark aave/blaccent ua-cam.com/video/ztkD-KrcEoE/v-deo.html
Ateez Hongjoong ua-cam.com/video/pWRJ637fpfc/v-deo.html
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YG Trainee - JENNIE KIM (김제니) ua-cam.com/video/HFQBxmv0GWc/v-deo.html
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JYP blackface MBC “She Was Pretty” privated ua-cam.com/video/I2MR8G5QbkI/v-deo.html
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Jackson Wang appropriation seoulbeats.com/2017/06/roundtable-oops-jackson-did-it-again/
Jihyo Jeongyeon colorist [5: 45] m.vlive.tv/video/9215/잘-다녀올게요
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Momo n word ua-cam.com/video/qlfbd3KEqfI/v-deo.html
Jihyo Native American ua-cam.com/video/44cA8lKfI4Y/v-deo.html
Momo cornrows [4: 18] ua-cam.com/video/jwigH5iIOGk/v-deo.html
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LE n word [13: 46] ua-cam.com/video/EfUGOVNmhJw/v-deo.html
Hwasa n word ua-cam.com/video/HV8GeyoJgjQ/v-deo.html
Mamamoo blackface/apology
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m.facebook.com/RBW.MAMAMOO/posts/1303885816345385
Hwasa durag ua-cam.com/video/m5iFHJECQWU/v-deo.html
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Jooheon Black English ua-cam.com/video/clggiNB1CQ4/v-deo.html
Heuk hyung/heuk noona explained- JAYKEEOUT x VWVB Korean N word social experiment ua-cam.com/video/m4IJo3jg6DE/v-deo.html
Dino dark hyung tweet twitter.com/pledis_17/status/762235625990828032?s=20
Dreamcatcher company apology twitter.com/hf_dreamcatcher/status/1096710687806504960?s=20
Sihyeon reggae hair [32: 23] m.vlive.tv/video/212781
Beats by Dr. Dre Presents "You Love Me" ua-cam.com/video/h0rfCYy9jbI/v-deo.html
Exactly
Period
Can u do a video on cultural appropriation for other cultures in kpop?
That would be difficult but I can try. I avoid it as to not speak over others or say anything incorrect as it’s not my culture. I include Native American appropriation in my videos because I grew up being told how to not offend nor appropriate them which is why I feel confident boosting Native American Kpop fans’ complaints. For others, it would be hard for me to know what for sure isn’t right or wrong. Maybe I’ll try and collab with people from other cultures to make that possible. We’ll see 💗
Sis has all the receipts 🧾
It’s funny how they keep making fun of the tan members but they be the best looking ones out the group.
Literally 💀
It could be jealousy
Ikr, that’s so emberazzing, the internalized colorism really jumped out 😳
😂 so truee
true, like when taehyung (bts) had that sun kissed tan, i seriously screamed 👁👄👁
The fact that dating is scandal in kpop but saying n-word is not 💀💀💀
PLSS 😟
True
Idol: *says the n word*
Fans: "They weren't thinking of you when they said that and they don't know any better, get over yourselves"
*news arise of two idols potentially dating*
Fans: "WHAT THE HELL?! How could they do this???? I trusted them!!"
Just thinking about that and putting the two in the same sentence is absolutely astounding.
Facts
Say it louder for the people in back
Lucas once made a joke about Baekhyun being fat, and the comment section was filled with people pointing out its insensitivity. But when Baekhyun and other idols constantly mock Lucas and Kai for their darker skin, the comment section just completely ignores it EVERY SINGLE TIME. Like really? Y’all don’t find the colourist jokes as offensive as fat-shaming jokes??? What kind of stupid double standard is this???
finally someone pointed it out
Thank you
@@jennierubyjane4133 do u use Wattpad??
Thank you for this! I'm not happy about kai wearing black hairstyles before but the amount of bullying he has gotten from other idols and especially his members for being "dark"(which ironic because members like baekhyun aren't even "light" either when they're not being whitewashed) is too much. Like it's never ok to bully someone and even though fat shaming obviously isn't cool either, I give Lucas props for clapping back. Baekhyun is one of the best vocalist in kpop but he has such a bully mentality and I don't see why fans keep defending that
@@murasakino101 fr
As an Indian I know what it's like living in a culture OBSESSED with fairness. It is so bad to the point that it is normal and acceptable to publicly harrass and bully people for the tone of their skin. It is exactly like in Korea, but this needs to change! just because "it's always been like this" doesn't mean it should continue to be.
I love Korean culture and food and would love to visit there someday, but honestly I don't know how much I can enjoy the trip whilst being constantly aware of how ugly I am to them.
Honey I am an Indian too. And trust me you're not ugly at all. Korea is filled with shallow minded people. Don't let anybody tell you that you're not beautiful. Because beauty is subjective. It's a country filled with plastic surgeries wtf they know about natural beauty.
Ikr it's sad sometimes
As an Asian who grew up in an Asian country, I'm so used to people wanting fair skin and forcing other people to whiten their skin that I didn't realize how problematic and harmful that is until someone pointed it out
I hate it when idols diss other members because of their dark skin like it's not ugly.
its the fact that Ten, someone who's first language isn't english had to correct Mark for using aave, someone who's first language is...
shaking my fucking head
exactly
Exactly
Yup
exactly
What annoys me the most is that idols don't apologize unless asian or korean people call them out.
fr
also, most of the apologies aren't sincere.... or let's say, not even an apology. like, saying, "im sorry i offended u" is not acknowledging what was done wrong and blaming those who rightly accused them for their reaction(s). and abt the apology from mamamoo's company, they said that the public should educating them when they should be educating THEMSELVES.
@@Jen-cv1ul true
Frrrr ! Actually that’s a commonly used strategy to gain popularity... sickening .
Guys. Stop acting as if they don't know what the n word is. There is literally a korean version of it. So they definitely know what it is.
this. and racism is a universal thing, and korea is a very intelligent country. they just don’t want to admit their faves say the n slur.
@@user-qb9ft9ro9d intelligent country ???
This is why it’s so important for artists like Fatou from BLACKSWAN to shine through in the Kpop industry. Fatou is black, and will definitely call out these racist moments from our idols.
sadly blackswan is a very small group and international got hype, but other groups fans will tell her to stfu cause she's not famous and they will pull the "they aren't famous as ...." card. They already attacked her for wearing wigs....like sis can't catch a break. She should cover a song from a black artist and have the hair, the clothes and be like "I can do all that cause I'm a black woman". But then they'll hate on her existence 😑 bunch of lil bitches
Sadly that would be a career killer for Fatou, she's from a small company and a small girl group or even they would associate her with the stereotype of an "angry black woman" that's why us as fans we must call out our faves when they do something like this.
Ya maybe then there idols would realise these problems in the community and just Korea in general
@@elefent4642 I’m saying like🙄
they are racist and you're still calling them idol ?????
“if you want to be a global artist you have to be sensitive to a global audience” EXACTLY
True
True
Well said.
Simple
this^
The fact that ten is the one correcting them instead of the american/ Canadian members when they should know way better then him smfh
the fact that it’s not ten’s first language but it is mark’s...
this video + the bts one have made me realize how normalized racism is in korea.. i feel so bad for stanning some of these groups, but i will make sure to take them accountable for their mistakes. thank you so much for making these videos!!
how are you going to hold them accountable? genuine question from someone who doesn't know what to do with the same realization you had
@@syzygy888 hi I know this is months late but to hold them accountable you can:
- not stream their music (on their yt channel, Spotify, any music source that gives them profit)
- don't buy albums
- no voting on award shows etc
- basically don't do anything that gives them money 💵
I wonder how they treat “real” black people.
fake nice
@@hlulanindlovu7506 THEY BE DOING THAT THO- UR RIGHT
They treat them bad,they look at them with a disgusting look.it's true
You can see it with the people who talked about the black k-pop artists.
@@hlulanindlovu7506 definitely
I also hate the fact that people were bullying Fatou from black swan only because shes black. but then these kpop idols r using our black culture?? Make it make senseee
I'm black and I've heard more people in this video say the n-word then I've heard from my family
Same
Same... this is honestly so disappointing😞
Same for me
my fam dont even say it unless they mad 😂
Same, I'm from Tue Caribbean so we don't say the n word here unless we are like singing to music or something like that (I'm black). But even them know ( *most* non black caribbean ppl)that if you aren't black then don't say it.
Their fake apologies sounds EXACTLY like the abusive boyfriend who fake apologizes for hitting his girlfriend. Again and again.
They're also all the SAME apology. It sounds sincere, then it immediately gets taken down or you know they're just gonna do whatever they did again, because no one is holding them accountable for it.
Y'all Jihyo dressing up as a native American but calling herself Indian is literally so ridiculous.
When she said "iNdiAn jiHyO" i cringed so hard
She meant native Americans who are also known as Indian. But what she said doesn''t sound right and she should not have said that.
I died out of stupidity
But if someone trying to squint their eyes and talk in an Asian stereotypical form, then they'll be screaming "racists!!"
and that noise she made😒
As a Asian this puts a very bad look on us, and i will NOT be defending these discussing actions these idols have done. I know i’m not one of them but as a asian i would like to apologize on their behave, this is not okay. if charli damelio taped her eyes back and starting talking in a chinese accent her career would be ended, but even though she’s only 16 she’s has common sense that, that is called ✨racism✨these grown ass people know that’s racist. these are no mistakes if they keep happening, especially if they are from canada, american etc. some of them do not deserve the platform they were given and it shows. i will always stick up for what’s right and this is wrong #asiansforblacklivesmatter
I’m Asian and I really agree. It’s not ok. Don’t the idols and companies see that their actions are harmful? It’s not going to change unless they care ugh. Also don’t the companies say they want their groups to be internationally famous and they do that stuff?!
I’m sorry but G Dragon saying the n word was so damn embarrassing 🤦🏽♀️
And he’s done so many other offensive things towards the black and other communities but yet he’s still treated like a god
henry’s whole apology is giving Travis Scott😞
🤣🤣🤣
Exactly what it’s giving 😂
Unfortunately, I just assume that all kpop idols are racist and homophobic. Only a few are probably "safe" to stan (like Holland 100% not homophobic lmao). the amount of idols that have done black face and have gotten zero backlash is disgusting.
Yeah! Holland and WEi are one of least problematic kpop idol/groups.
same I am always scared that my fav idols are homophobic and transphobic 🥲
It's guilty until proven innocent and this point
Everything couldn't be just a fashion or fashion prop .one k-pop Idol does seductive dance on floor on Gayatri mantra which is a holy sacred song .it was like you are twerking on floor in church when priest is trying to say prayer. 🤪 Jeez
I feel so bad for Kai, Heachan and for all the dark skinned asians.
P.s.: Ten is necessary
it's so natural for asians, even east asians, to be dark or tan easily... i'm so disappointed that the cultural standards of asian culture no matter its origin are colorist and that even celebrities like kpop idols are perpetuating negative notions with dark skin. i used to be so tan from swimming all the time, but when i got older and started stanning kpop, i unconsciously began to judge myself and others. my friends always say they're "so black" when they get the slightest bit tan and it's very concerning.
Shotaro melanin skin is waving😔 sm really did him dirty.
yeah. i agree :'(
As a darkskin Asian I remember my first colourist incident when I was in KG-1(Kindergarten 1) I was put between these two girls and they were pushing me left and right and their whole reason was "ewww ugly the skintone will get on me so dirty" was their excuse for bulling me I was so young and naive I didn't even know I was hurting inside and later during a short break they locked me in a toilet and said "its better now we are saved" I didn't even cry I thought that was what society was like,and the teacher came open the door for me later after she noticed I was not present in the classroom and honestly I would preferred to stay there all day and when I got home I asked my mom if my skin colour could've rubbed off on others and that I think they should get me a seat at the end of the classroom cause I thought my skin colour was like a disease that I was born with, but my mom told the teacher about the situation and they let me sit near this sweet girl and I got through KG1 and 2 with her until we moved to another place
@@veen-a2092 darkskin asians are beautiful,the people who bullied you,don't know real unique beauty
Not blackface being COSPLAY💀💀💀🤚🏾
Like it's so racist. You can cosplay a black character without painting your face. I see so many black ppl cosplaying white/asian character and none of then painted their faces or change their eyes shape... Smh
Imma pretend I didn't just see that 💀
God damn it...
I don't weather to laugh or cry
Bro that shit had me rolling, like how tf are you saying blackface is fucking cosplay 💀✋🏽
kpop idol: * is racist and does cultural appropriation*
also them: “you guys I’m so sorry. I never thought that it would be so offensive, really. I just did it to look cool! I’m very uneducated on this topic and I sincerely apologize for that.”
them the next month: *mocks an accent and does more racist things*
Lol many of them don’t even apologize in the first place.
their managers create those apologies.
Those apologies are straight up stupid and doesn't even have any sincerity
EXACTLY
It’s just so embarrassing how dating is a scandal in the K-pop community but not saying the n word 🤦🏽♀️💀✋🏻
Black people are dehumanised. We are seen as characters, trends, and cool but not for who we are as humans. Countries with zero black people tend to see us as just stereotypes, that’s why I’m glad for multicultural countries in the uk and us, because people see us as humans, but racism is still a issue even though there’s multi-culture.
exactly
When you said “Kpop is built off of BLACK CULTURE” I remembered when CL said
“Artists, directors, writers, dancers, designers, producers, stylists in the K-pop industry are all inspired by black culture whether they acknowledge it or not.”
It’s the fact that no big companies or any other idols would say the same thing she said because it’s true
gd is so problematic and racist towards black ppl, yet the artists he looks up to are beyoncé, jay z, rihanna, wu-tang clan etc.. like it makes no sense ??
Oh it makes perfect sense when you understand that this "looking UP to black artists", translates to...
"looking TO black artists"
for more ideas of how TO GET PAID.
Simple. They like to profit off of our art, but don't like us as people.
Whole ass kpop industry is inspired by Black music and culture
They gain profit by using that's not theirs, but also don't put efforts to respect black people. Irony!
I am not even a black person, but still!
And the fact that kpop stans let GD's racism slide out because he is a king of kpop is just so-
it's like how hwasa is problematic towards black ppl yet her inspiration is Rihanna.
Why are people disliking this? That just shows how some fans are as ignorant as their idols
People have sent death threats and lots of hate to the creator of this video (she said it in a live) but she still has it up even though she’s gotten a lot of shit for it. Sadly, some people will just chose to not educate themselves and will chose to stay having a ignorant mindset.
@@madidiaveli even if they try to send death threats the truth will always come out
Notice how every apology is saying “I’m sorry that people got offended” basically. They aren’t sorry they did it, they’re just sorry they got called out. They’re basically admitting that if people hadn’t gotten upset they wouldn’t have cared.
FRRRRR
Right!
Ngl I might get hate for this but that’s what I feel about Rap Mons insensitive comments. If no one would’ve batted an eye at him saying those things he said he would’ve carried on the way he was and that is very alarming to me bc who knows what is said in his moments of privacy when the cameras aren’t rolling. I love BTS but as a longtime POC ARMY I can’t help but have that at the back of my mind
It’s so hard being a black kpop fan, they literally don’t listen to us they continue to make these “mistakes”, the N- word part got me so upset like it just kept going.
Yes, it really is hard!!!
That's why I really stopped getting into kpop, it's way too problematic.
it’s really frustrating
Sometimes I just wonder why I'm still a Kpop stan.
Yes those aren't mistakes they are racists period.
I really appreciate the way you have researched these videos so thoroughly, including the background of the false claims. Your examples are so well chosen. I know it's time-consuming to find just the right clips to prove a point.
Thank you ♥️
using AAVE is not a trendy slang and non black people should stop using it on Twitter and anywhere
Not to mention mfs refer to it as “gen z slang” 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
They don’t even look good in those hairstyles imo 💀
Agreed! Winwin looked like absolute HELL. They all look goofy af 💀💀💀
No because (and I ain’t even black) those hair styles are made for African hair types (beautiful might I add). It’s almost like when a culture has a practice that’s been developed and used for decades… there’s a reason… lmao 🤣
What the hell Kai's skin isn't even dark.... The idols whose skin is considered too tan or too dark still look white compared to actual black people, makes you wonder how actual dark skin may be viewed. It's actually frightening.
Kpop fans will only stop using the excuse “oh they didn’t know” whenever they find out that it Is infantilizing Asians which has negative history beneath it.
Fr
Without black culture kpop wouldn’t be anything
I'll rephrase that ...entire pop word is standing on black culture ...no pop no hip hop would grow in any country without black culture 👍👍❤️❤️
Sandoz exactly
Say that louder for the people in the back!!
THIS IS ONE HUNDRED PERCENT TRUE
There wouldn't be music as we know it in the west period. Blues, country, rock, pop ... it's black people
What’s even more irritating is when people are mad at YOU for bringing it up. Yes I brought up Jihyos Indian war cry and I’ll be just as quick to bring up blackpink (the group I stan) Lisa’s braids. No one is a bad guy for making people aware, it’s stuff some fans want to know.
Fr 💀 they’ll get mad at you for talking about their fave being problematic but *never* hold the *actual* fave accountable for *being* problematic 🤡 Clownery. If they don’t want their fave getting called out, then focus on making sure *they* do better. It’s them doing the bs, not me 🤷🏾♀️ Get them to stop f*cking up and there won’t be anything for people to talk about, pretty simple. But nooo instead they’ll keep shielding their fave, then they keep repeating the same thing, and then stans get upset when people talk about it 🗿
Same I stan blackpink but when I brought up about Lisa and Rosé and Jen people attack me and called me a fake blink like y’all just going to ignore
The “they didn’t know” excuse is BS. I was in Seoul from 2008-2010. Koreans were being called out for both blackface and Native costumes in videos and commercials back then.
Honestly as a Korean it makes me so upset to see these issues constantly happening. The Asian community fully understands what its like to be made fun of because of our race and heritage, so I don’t get why that translates to bitterness, resentment, and ignorance towards other poc communities. Especially towards black people. It really does make me feel so embarrassed and frustrated
You can make a difference by educating your fellow Korean peers
It's not yr fault and don't feel frustrated or embarrassed,cause you know yr truth,it's the asian people who are racist that must feel frustrated and embarrassed .people have to keep in mind that not all asians are racist .It may look like that but it's not the case.
@@me.shyann You don't need to educate them they know exactly what they're doing .
It translates to treating other poc like shit because Asians know they can be racist and get away with it. There are zero consequences in any Asian country to be racist towards black people. The Asian continent just does not care about black people because they don't want to. But for some reason when they come to America, black people have to care about Anti Asian hate. Make it make sense.
It's funny how for example, when idols wear or say something pro feminism and lgbtq+ kpop fans are like "look how woke my idols are" but when they wear or say something offensive it's not on them and it's "the company and stylish fault"...
For real !!
Yikes! 😬 this could not be more true 😔
Truth
I'm so tired of the "But they didn't know" excuse. Like so many big artists have been called out that there's no way they don't know.
Google is FREE so that excuse is bs......
They try to make it seem like they are innocent and don't know any better or they go "well they don't really know about black people" but they know about the n word??? We have all been on this earth for too long for them to still be acting oblivious.
I'm from Pakistan and I'm a Muslim, thank you for creating this video❤️ some parts of this video really made me tearful. We as humans should learn and be respectful towards others being insensitive about other cultures, races and religions is a really bad thing. Loved this video ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
I'm not even black but I feel offended..this is disgusting and serious they're seriously mocking and making fun of other people's culture and skin even with their follow members wtf!! Thank you for this video wish I saw it before
And also made an entire industry off of the same people they hate.💀
You're not even black but you feel offended🤗🤗🤗,that's unity,supporting without seeing colour
I’m a Korean and this is just a reflection of how racism and colorism is so deeply rooted in Korean society. The younger generation is definitely more progressive but it’s like Korea lives in their own tiny little bubble and mindset and they’re ignorant to these situations. So disappointed that Kpop, the main thing that’s representing Korea to the world rn, is like this, but maybe the backlash might put them in the right mindset :/
It's just like my country (Philippines). Yes, its true that the younger generation is definitely more progressive, but a lot are still ignorant and its honestly embarrassing and upsetting.
rightt
Hit that one on the nose
Girl! In my country Nepal, racism against black people and Korean (especially towards BTS) is literally so fvcking worst (and don't even start with the homophobia). If you come to my country, you would see at least 3 4 persons every 5 kilometers wearing box braids to look swaggy and cool. They say racial slurs to act badass. They disrespect black people by calling with names which are too offensive and disrespectful (I don't want to utter those names because they are disgusting). Kpop idols are called gays. I don't even know what to say. When we some Nepalese people who are educated enough try to confront them, they would be sending us death threats SMH.
No Korea knows exacy what they are doing.if they call TMZ racist for making fun of they ass because it was a white woman they call it racist. They learn from white Americans that they can steal and take fe blackpeople because they think they race is higher than blacks. That's why they cherish white skin. They are doing this for money . They are racist and know exactly what they are doing. Just like they join white supremacists to get rid of affirmative actions That is crazy . They are jealous of black people but at the same time hate black people.
Dang she really said NO ONE is safe in this video 😆
AS SHE SHOULD AND DID
Fr exposed all of them 🤣😭
Yep she called out everyone
the fact that I can’t even name 10+ kpop groups who haven’t gotten into atleast one racist scandal
What people don’t realize is that there’s a huge difference between black hair styles and Viking and Celtic braids, there’s no comparison at all (for reference I’m Celtic-Scandinavian)
I'm usually mad at the people who say, "I'm black & I wasn't offended, so it's okay." Like...good for you, don't speak for the rest of us.
Facts
Ong
If they even are. MAD trolls on the tube.
Preach!
💀.
the fact that Ten is the only one who call call nct members out on their bullshit even though hes a foreigner says a lot😐
Sad that despite this, he still laughed at the colorist joke made towards Lucas along with the other SuperM members (except for Kai) 22:12
@@AdeolaAsh exactly. no one is a saint or should be praised. all of them have issues
The viking hairstyles? Wtf 😭? I’m Scandinavian and i know for a fact that viking hairstyles have never included afro hair (is that the right term?) or dreadlocks. Braids have been a huge part of viking hairstyles, though. Who the heck claims that kpop idols are trying to imitate vikings?
For real, like the can't see the different styles of Braids😭
kpop fans always act like their faves are innocent
this
What’s crazy is that Korea has one of the biggest educational systems, you don’t think they learned about racism?
Frrrrr
Nothing but facts
Like,tell me abt it
Literally!!
Yeah learnt how to perpetuate it.
“im black and I don’t find any of this offensive”
👩🏼💻🧑🏻💻
Lmfao those white washed black 😂😂😭💀
You must not have no self respect or love yourself . It’s so sad!
smh
Lol yall didn't get the comment 🤣 😂 read emojis
@@nataliewalters2759 did you get the quotation marks??
K-pop's obsession with African Hairstyles and use of n-word is insane 🤯... I am so blank rn like I don't even know what to say. Like they're literally benefiting from black culture and mocking it at the same time wtf.
I am not black and I am educating myself on these topics. I am new to this channel, found out about it in a comment on Keisha's video and Adeola girl thank you for putting so much efforts and bringing this into light. Love from a new subscriber ♥️
“Blonde wearing the blonde wig is also racist”
That’s the funniest thing I’ve ever heard. Ffs 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
girl you are braver than the marines, the fact some ppl are trying to debunk this vid is laughable when you literally provided the receipts😭
Whoever is tryna do that is pressed af
Where was the SNSD "receipts"? :/
Exactly and for me trynna find some videos of bigbang's racism
@@kaeya8674 did you even watch the video? 🙄
The fact that they call appropriation “appreciation” , no sweetie, appreciation is adding BLACK people into mvs and respecting them. not making fun of them.
WHEW I haven’t seen a Black person largely visible in a mv for years
THIS!!! 💅🏾
Fatou, a black member of Blackswan has been falsely accused of b*llying
You can imagine how well they’re treating HER.
I’m super upset about these whole thing. You notice how they never have any originality in anything their fashion and music all copied from black people while still disrespecting black people.
Unless you're jessie nelson and your video is full of black people and she still cant get it right 🤣🤣🤣
I feel betrayed and I honestly feel like crying. As a young black girl i did not know that people would go to this extent in this day in age. I don’t even know if I should listen to all of my “favorite” idols anymore.
it’s okay to be upset! your feelings are valid
@@luvvreni thank you
Getting away from kpop as a black girl was one of my best decisions. There is plenty of songs out there. But it differs for everyone
I feel the exact same way TT. I honestly cannot listen to kpop without thinking i should even be listening to it due to all the cultural appropriation and racism in korea.
Fuck em! They don't care about you as a human, why should you even support these assholes and give them you're money.
Real artists supports and cares for their fans. No matter what race. If this is how they wanna treat Black people, then I say fuck them. Become your own idol.
'and because black men are like gangsters" HAS THE GIRL EVER SEEN A BLACKMAN?
At this point I'm just gonna stan myself
Periodt😂😂
as you should
ikr just like kpop is problematic 😭
Ikr everyone is so disappointing cause of some stupid mindsets
Period I stan myself too now
The entire K-pop Industry are based of BLACK Music and Culture , I still can't believe that alot of K-pop artists are Racist towards black people 😶
I really hurts to see this 😢
Yes, racism is deeply rooted in k-pop. I am an Indian and have seen so many instances of Indian cultural appropriation and using sacred hymns of our religion and making it sexual. It baffles me how ppl just ignore it. It's actually painful and most of all, we never get an apology!
I saw some videos on this matter and u won't believe that there were some people actually commented that we don't mind it. It's good for us they r praising our indian culture. Some even made excuse for their idols that they accidentally did it but anyone can clearly see that they r mocking us.
I was like bish what??
I hate that they create a cartoon that gives my beautiful black people an ugly appearance ,mocking our skin colour,creating a false believe that black people are ugly.its so disrespectful,we don't create a cartoon or show mocking asians
I am sorry
"I'm sorry for offending you" is not an apology. "I'm sorry you feel that way" is not an apology. They are just sorry they got called out.
I think every kpop stan should watch this video
This is literally the Cycle of Abuse. Apologizing, then doing it again, victims complain and point out the abuse and how it keeps happening and why its wrong, after a little while once the abuser feels the issue passed, the abuser offends again. I am sick of the low level of emotional intelligence accepted, gaslighting and outright lies. The answer to abuse is to walk away. Leave the person, unfriend, block, delete. Stop supporting them. Otherwise, 'taking them back' only gives them silent permission to do it again. Same as any other toxic relationship.
I am from the Middle East so I am absolutely unbiased when I say that Kpop as we know it today would not exist without black music!!! The disrespect is crazy! If you are an ally you need to speak up about this.
Exactly, it's just Black music with Koreans singing over it but they want to disrespect the race that paved the way to them. Smh.
I’m Asian and our community really needs to have the discussion of how we treat black, Indian and Native American people. We make fun of, discriminate, and stereotype them constantly but then we appropriate the “cool” parts of their culture. We only ever care about racism when we are the victims. Frankly, I hate seeing Asians be like “white people, am I right?” As if BIPoC don’t commonly face racism from Asians. It’s ignorant and deflective.
Yea . We should start by including indians under the "asian" category honestly
Valid points
Exactly
Thankyou. We should first start by including southern asians cause racism against us is just pushed aside
@@navyal7237 they re tan and has +1 billions on their country
Im sad than the people forget india in asia
The whole Kai situation really pisses me off. Just the whole skin tone being darker and being compared and being seen as a “Weakness” it’s just absurd
Like at this rate…why did I ever start listening to K-pop if they’re going to disrespect my race so much ? Like goodness…
Ikr
and it's annoying how a lot of fans would go "oh they just didn't know!!" then educate yourself. most of these idols are adults with working brains. the idea of racism, colorism, cultural appropriation and even xenophobia would be easy to understand.
Right omg THE RACIST FANS who will constantly make excuses for them and try to shut you up just for speaking out literally are the worst. They love to BABY them and act like these idols are clueless 🤦🏽♀️
Tbh I love BTS yet I want my faves to be better especially since they want to speak out against racism. Imo they should confront their actions with cultural appropriation
I heard that Taeyeon of SNSD said Alicia Keys was “pretty for a black person”. What does that even meannnn?
that was so rude in youtube are a video of her being racist.
exactly lmao thank god many k netizens are still on her ass to this very day for that bs
whaaat? that’s so disrespectful.
And the ironic thing is Alicia Keys is not even black she's biracial
I’m surprised it wasn’t included in this video
The comment about wanting to experience pain like black people to make better music...I am lost for words....
I felt so annoyed. What does he know about our pain and suffering?
I was lost for words too
I don’t wish that on anybody
I literally had my mouth agape🤦🏽♀️ like what is he pointing at???
the fact that bts has a separate video...
Yeah and my fellow armies covered this stuff up is just 🤦♀️
I think what’s frustrating is the fact that there’s no repercussions so they simply don’t care. I mean, a group could outwardly express their hatred for black people and their fans would still continue to support and even defend them.
Well this is going to be embarrassing. I’m South Asian and Muslim and honestly it’s just really annoying that they don’t learn...
Omg me too it’s like how many times we gotta call you out to understand
Yeah agreed
I can imagine how they trash you guys it's so disgusting
God forbid a black celebrity putting on a Korean impression
Right
God forbid anyone commenting about their culture ☠️
Fr
Exactly
Kpop Stans when an idol literally says the n word:
¯\_(ツ) _/¯
Kpop Stans when an idol wears the same shirt as another idol:
RAARARARAAAAAAAA THEIR DATING 👹🤬😤👹👹👹
Ok, I don't get your point.
@@sarahfraser4890 how do you not get the point its litterally one of the clearest things ever☠☠☠
"I'm black and I'm not offended".... 👨🏼💻
LMAOOOOO
Imagine how tired we black K-pop stans are, the colorism and blatant rac*sm makes me sick and at this point it's so hard to separate the art from the artists because it's happening too often, these are grown men and women and we can't keep making excuses for their behaviors
don't worry we still got eachother! all love to my black brothers and sisters
I think its weird how someone would need to be taught something is offensive if they'd find it offensive if it was in reverse. Its simply lack of empathy. They probably dont see black people as being as much a human as them and thats why they dont realize why itd be hurtful till pointed out.
Exactly
great point
i’m white and ive never been a fan of kpop but i was interested in how diversity in kpop works but this vid popped up and im glad it did!! very educational thank you for sharing these resources
I live in india this is an issue in the entire continent of Asia
So my mom is light skinned and my dad is a bit darker (both brown)
I am more like my dad so I'm a bit darker
As im a female and darker I have heard many people in my family say
"Why did u turn out this way"
"You look so much darker than ur sister"
Even tho I will be considered light in society. Ik crazy.
My cousin sister recently had a baby and she got a bit sick and weak while trying to lose the pregnancy weight (also she was forced to lose pregnancy weight) As she was sick her skin got a bit dull with it, when we recently met at a family gathering my parents immediately noticed and said "eat more u have gotten darker" what do u want, her to eat or lose weight?...also like I didn't even notice her skin wtf-
HERE if u wanna get famous, married, rich, get a proper job u have to be light skinned.
Also for some reason in Asia being black is cool but being dark is not, and men being black is okay but women being black is ugly. (ik doesn't make any sense)
Cause black people are considered "strong" and "manly" in a way, cause of well....Movies and sports....Its like a weird stereotype/racist belief? (Also not to mention sexist)
Mid 2020 there was a huge thing about bleach creams, which was put down by media (Cause celebrities and models are 101% of the time light skinned) and the bleach cream brands just changed their name from "FAIR and Lovely" to "Glow and Lovely" (one specific brand) and it was considered all okay....+ (not to mention girls are forced to put it on as they need to get married)
NO THIS IS NOT AN EXCUSE FOR BEING RACIST, I'M JUST PUTTING LIGHT ON WHAT HAPPENS IN ASIA
I feel like these days (kids and teenagers) aren't racist and it's getting better, BUT THESE IDOLS CANT BE FORGIVEN. NO EXCEPTIONS.
DUDE you just wrote everything that I was going to say. Fellow Indian here! Indians' obsession with fair skin numbs my brain. I have a cousin who has dark skin and literally as far back as I can remember, people would compare us and pity her for not being as pale as me. I was so influenced by it as a kid that i thought dark skin was a bad thing but now I've learned how toxic it is.
And not to mention Bollywood stars supporting blm last year while they advertise for skin whitening creams💀Thank god youth has changed in last couple of years but older people are still stuck on colorism(provided to us by British smfh)
If they think Kai is dark i must be the literal night sky💀
But night sky is prettier than the sky at day time😉the world wouldn't be the same without the stars and the moon to look up to
@@footgoblin love the profile photo hun :)
@@footgoblin So ✨poetic✨
You're beautiful the way you are ❤
Yeah
i need people to realize that saying "oh they didn't know" plays right into the infantilization of asian individuals which has racist undertones as well...they are not ignorant. they are grown people, they understand their actions. stop babying these idols.
Exactly
Fr
exactly like how tf do u not know that calling shit "reggae hair" and saying nigger when ur not actually black is wrong. istg
I legit thought they were ignorant...not anymore now.
➕ some of the members are international if the asian members don't know then the international members should know.
it annoys me how some kpop fans will go to such extreme lengths to defend people they have never even met
me & the rest of the black community: *existing*
korea: it's free real estate
but seriously, if they say they will be better, why are they still appropriating our culture, using the n-word knowing its bad, and doing black face STILL KNOWING it's bad? I'm almost 100% sure these "scandals" have circled around Korea and it should've been common sense to *not* do these things. I am a MooMoo, I love the message they put out and how Hwasa spreads confidence and love, but the disrespect she's shown and the group makes me sad because I really like her and Mamamoo. I personally accept the Bruno Mars situation's apology, but I'd have to look into when she wore a durag and cornrows... Plus it's even worse when you think about our history and how EVERYTHING was stripped away from us, and it still continues today as they silence us. The stereotypes are so damaging for places like Korea when their racial and cultural population is mostly monogamous. They get false ideas on how black people should act and look like through movies and common stereotypes (ex. angry black woman, sass, gangster, having rhythm and knowing how to dance, always buff/always curvy, etc.). And when they are corrected and told that we all come in different shapes and sizes they're like "well, these stereotypes, although harmful, are way cooler than them actually being their own person with unique traits. Time to blatantly be racist and continue being ignorant!" Plus Korea is SO OBSESSED with having fair skin and even someone who I'd consider to have fair skin is actually "tan" or "dark". it's like if you're a shade lighter than the literal color white then you're automatically unattractive. This video was very informative and I agree with all points of this topic. Stay safe and healthy 💜
Why do so many people only like the black/African aesthetic, but hate us?
Because they wish that they had the gifts and talents that we have. They have hate in their hearts and think we don’t deserve to be who we are .
I can’t believe ten has to tell them when it ain’t even his first Language-
Suddenly my mood is to unstan Kpop for sum reasons
lisa also wore a durag recently and lizards are now "educating" people that it's a 'scarf' ✋🤠 ⁉️
Lol ikr
Lizards 💀💀💀
That girl never gets tired of ripping off black culture
I didn’t know Jihyo dressed up as a Indigenous person- please I almost started crying...
Indigenous people are heavily ignored, from our problems with MMIW (Missing and Murdered Indigenous Woman) and our thoughts on “costumes” that involve religious regalia. It hurts to see people I look up towards, look down on sacred clothing ; Like it’s just some costume.
Did she ever apologize for wearing her “costume”?
She didn’t 😞
That part was truly disheartening bcz my husband's side of the family has strong Native American heritage. How can they be so careless?? And the crowd cheering her on!!! Thank you for sharing this. I'm seriously thinking of not listening to KPop anymore. I'm not saying everyone else should, just my own thoughts.
she also called herself “indian jihyo” so like 😭 why does she still have stans she never apologized for imitating war cries too
Yet her fans call her 'God Jihyo'. What a mess
At this point idk who to stan :/
kai couldn’t catch a break about his skin back then.
I saw his pain in his eyes, They really had the nerve to laugh at him for being dark 🤨.
they also mock indians
I don't understand how like they can insult their darker skin peers, but they love wearing styles made popular by dark-skinned/ black people.
Just imagine how black people are tired. Just imagine how black people are getting hated just because of the color of their skin. They've done so much for us yet get treated like animals. Why can't we realize that it doesn't atter what race you are or what the color of your skin is, we're all humans. We all deserve to be treated equally. Yet, some people don't think that way and it's getting frustrating
Dude i remember commenting on that jennie trainee video when it first came out years ago and i asked why they were letting her get away with that. People replied that I was bullying a minor and that they weren't surprised she had haters already because she's so talented and pretty lmao. These people will literally wear blindfolds over their eyes instead of holding their faves accountable for anything
So I guess people can get away with saying slurs that aren’t theirs if they’re talented and pretty PLEASE 😭💀💀
Istggggg they dont hold idols accountable for ANYTHING which is why im so done with the fandoms in general
DISAPPOINTED but NOT surprised smh
The “you’re just jealous” argument is soooo tiring
The Tibetan women pictured with the microbraids are usually Buddhists or Bon practitioners and are meant to have 108 braids (a special number within at least those sects of Buddhism and Bon). Having your hair "changed" from unbraided to braided usually happens around puberty and there's a whole very specific ceremony and party for it (like a Bat Mitzvah with more work!). Snatching that up without understanding the significance would be really shitty so...yeah no. Not chill even if they were mimicking another Asian style
Jay Park is the top of this issue. A lot of Kpop idols will get away with this because of money and ignore after being called out for their racist actions
Jay Park needs his own video lol