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@@samaralovegoodblack5775 if you see this @Adeola Ash The comments under drift are under literal fire they keep saying she’s not copying and they keep comming on all the black people in the comments I’m black ass hell so yea I put my say and the fans of Jessie were being so rude
@@imjustchilling41 I think I have a few videos planned that will address that, but to be honest with you, the stans won’t care. They will always claim the ignorance card when it benefits them. Someone yesterday called JYP’s 49 year old 🍑 an “innocent kid” in response to this video. The man is half a century old and had his dancers in blackface like 🤡 These people will say and do absolutely anything to defend their faves.
@@AdeolaAsh that’s what I’m saying..!!💀they literally have no life an these “fans” will do everything they can to make these so called “Idols” look good when they don’t even care about them 😭👎🏾all their doing is making money off of them and they don’t even understand or care.🤡 P.S: These fans worships them like there God, like nahhhh bro.
Like CL said “Artists, directors, writers, dancers, designers, producers, stylists in the K-pop industry are all inspired by black culture whether they acknowledge it or not”
Hey now it's not just a K-pop industry it's also the j-pop industry as well heck you can even UA-cam Streets of rage similarities Yuzo was stealing hooks bass lines and tracks from mini black artists in the UK to make that Streets of rage soundtrack 🙄 They love stealing from us but they hate giving us credit for anything 🙄
Imagine if the positions were switched. Like, if the black creators were the ones who stole or appropriated the culture, or acted ignorant. The fans would've turned the world upside down, and drag these artists to absolute filth.
and floods the twt with their hashtag, also floods the person instagram with hateful comments, i'm a kpopers but sometimes i feel like a lot of kpopers are *too much* and the wholesome kpopers are overshadowed by it, i hate them toxic fans so much they give bad reputation about the community
Cierra having to apologize for someone else thieving her content just shows how deeply disrespected and gaslighted black women still are in the entertainment industry. Hoping to see more women of colour thrive with their respective creative content.
@@Hannimox And what’s even more upsetting is Blinks behaving in such a foul manner .. wtf? Like c’mon .. could’ve been a powerful movement if they channeled that energy toward Lisa/the choreographer to let them give credit where it was due But nope!
@@feminine8766 and then they tried to say the girl was always following the choreographer when I DMed the girl during the whole fiasco (asking if she was alright) and she told me Cheshire was following her and she didn’t know but then followed her back because Lisa fans said that was the choreographer
nooooo the Lisa part like Cierra literally has more dislikes which is SOOOO unfair. She's the ORIGINAL. She posted her's TWO YEARS before Lisa could. This just hurts me. Kpop fans are crossing the line, CROSSING THE LINE
As a blink I am so sorry my fandom is like this. The band mates of BLACKPINK have done many things culturally offensive and should be called out for it. But most Blinks don’t want to accept that ://
@Lili fr that’s just unacceptable and very disgusting some Koreans get more credit than actual Black people that actually make the dance or songs which is actually not OK I would totally agree that k-pop is very toxic and so is the community itself no non-black person should have to apologize for the cruel actions and using the N-word as a prop for their music they should know what racist is instead of playing with it but they choose to avoid it and act like nothing‘s wrong but again still get support for their weak as apologies they never do Korean girl groups got famous for copying black culture let me remind you black hairstyles and outfit it completely brainwashed the whole community thinking that you have to fit the whole Korean beauty Standard to fit in Just to be appreciate you can’t even be a black K-pop idol Without disrespectful as Korean fan basis coming at you
@@tokkitheragdoll476 and you will still support them after all of the bad things they have done not mentioned saying the N-word also mocking Indian culture and not apologizing for it they still get plenty of credit by a bunch of obsessed fan bases they have even when they still do bad shit but people continue to ignore it just because they like them is so crazy to me!!! When a Korean person is getting more credit than the actual black person that made it is absolutely weird and not ok
Why can't they can just collaborate with the original artists/choreographers instead of stealing? They have the money and resources. Plus those people could make them something NEW by working together.
Nobody wants to work with kpop because of fandoms they attack anyone who says anything about bad or good, literally a few days ago SZA put I think on her insta "good day bts" and she got attacked and had to come out and say it was behind the scence for a song, but the sad thing is she didn't even say anything bad if she was talking about them.
Honestly, in my opinion Jessi’s whole brand, vibe, aesthetic, her rapping always felt so forced. she plays the stereotype of the “aggressive” black woman (because looking like black woman is what she’s trying to be) on these Korean shows and they eat it up. I could never vibe with. She gives me the vibe or someone that eats up black culture for profit but then would also say “I don’t see colour”
I agree there is always Koreans making it seem like they are the victim which is disgusting they will usually say their culture is being mocked or people is copying them when in reality they keep copying us I feel bad for their racist culture You can’t even walk in Korea what out Koreans staring at you or getting pictures took in without your consent or permission and always have to walk by a non-color person in Korea staring at you awkwardly in really like they don’t know who you are and I realize it is all always K-pop groups that get mixed up in the black culture community There been for too many accidents with K-pop idols sing the N-word and use it as a label which is absolutely not ok but their fans always lit it slid just because they might be famous there is a big difference of copying Black people and not copying Black people What is clear as day they do that all the time Koreans make up excuses about how they group at New York or some shit to victimless their selves and defender cells as if they did not have no problem with that at all they need serious help with that toxic community they have and it’s always dumb shit like you had to fit in the Korean beauty standards you have to be Korean to be a K-pop idol without getting judged or having to fit in usually people say you can be a black K-pop idol whenever because it’s not too late but it’s still the principle you are going to get judged anyway by people who are usually used to seeing Korean groups in not black group Black girls should easily be accepted into Korean communities or culture or dances without being Reddit called or criticized by Asians or white people who think they are copying Korean cultures there is Asians/Korean people always getting tans to look more black but it’s completely ignored and not evaded it by big fan basis they choose to ignore it which is very unacceptable instead of following up on the actions that they choose to manner you will still support that Korean person that copied a black person and act like it’s all fun and games nothing is wrong we will ignore this has not been going on for years totally there is usually asian people making videos about how we are copying them or each way possible to make it seem like we are a bad race When in General they are generally the main for racism and annoying the problem with fan bases they have and not taking control
To say that you don't know blackfishing is one thing, just educate yourself, easy. But for her to say she asked everyone around her and they didnt know what that is either ... invalidating the concept... and saying how could she blackfish???... Honey just listen to what the crowd has pointed out as blackfishing
I checked Cierra's channel. Some toxic fans are still mostly giving her new vids majority dislike ratios and are still in her comments, plus some of her newer vids' comments are disabled...I think the continued harassment is unwarranted at this rate since it's been ~a year since the accusations.
Exactly! People are saying “oh this was months ago, why are you bringing it back up”, and yet *blinks* are the ones *still* harassing Cierra about it months later 🤦🏾♀️ Sad that this issue is still relevant, but here we are 🤷🏾♀️
when daina called out jessi, jessi said she had never heard of her but literally had not only the same background to the same outfit and jessi lowkey look like she got surgery to look like daina cant lie they look alike a little
@@AdeolaAsh omg stoppppp I just watched that movie recently ;-; 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 honestly I used to love jessi but now this has put me on the fence. I used to be obsessed with kpop and watch all the variety shows and stuff, but now I just listen to music. I've left a lot of fandoms too.
I just.... feel so bad for Ceirra... I literally a tear drop... the fact blinks calling her a clout chaser and saying this is why they have not so much activities because people always drag them💀💀 But seriously the way blinks body shamed Ceirra calling her a dancing pig and throwing racist comments is just making me cry and the fact she is STILL getting hate You can see on her UA-cam channel she got a lot of dislikes and hate comments its just sick Literally kpop is NOTHING without black music
Frrr kpop stole black music that's why there getting so popular and as a black Stan I ask them to respect us since they used us but they can't even do that
What's funny is, we have our own spaces and they still won't leave us alone. Will travel through land, water and air to get to us just so they don't miss anything, only to still hate us by the end of it all...
not @ jessi trying to deny her actions when she literally fakes a black accent, her skin colour has changed drastically and she uses black culture as an aesthetic. sis, u really aint fooling nobody apart from your fanbase.
exactly. i'm glad i unstanned her. I didn't even know she was really that problematic till now. Only thing I liked about her was the fact she expose rude idols(AOA Jimin), and her music that's it lol Edit: omg my comment blew up-
Even before I knew Jessi’s response, her whole persona made me a little... hhmmm. She obviously uses Ebonics, her implants are made to fit a certain look, she wears black hairstyles... girl I can’t in good conscious listen or watch her anymore if she’s gonna choose to be ignorant
She doesn’t even speak Ebonics, she uses whatever phrases/ words that were made popular globally by black people to sound more “gangster”. She wouldn’t even be able to understand real Ebonics, there are so many nuances and dialects depending on what part of America you’re from.
Omggg and people fail to realize this too even Lee of SM entertainment and JYP said KPOP wouldn’t be where it is without black music/culture/artists I was on this TikTok page and it was filled with Kr&b artists and when I tell you it was like listening to another version of what black artists put out today I had to leave immediately because it’s mind boggling how much of an influence we have in this world not only with music but with hair,language etc. But people around the world hate us it’s soooo crazy to me like really crazy
Thank you Adeola for sharing this information. It’s because of people like you that will bring light to this community. I’m really tired of having our culture taken and used yet they are so anti black
Woah... I just saw on TikTok where people had gotten into this huge argument that Jessi isn’t blackfishing because she’s always been dark and she’s always had an accent. I wish I could show this to them.
Black people living on borrowed time and wasting it explaining to people who don't want to know is a waste. We have to push that energy to making great things first so they can have their refurbished version.
she needs to learn that just because she grew up in new york where 'everyone sounds the same' it dosent mean that she isnt using a blaccent.. just because its normalized dosent mean its ok
She didn’t even grow up in New York 💀 she grew up in a white-dominated suburb in New Jersey. She went to River Dell Regional High school. The towns that feed into that school (Oradell & River Edge) are 76% & 61% white respectively. Their Black populations are 1.25% & 2% respectively 🗿 The fact that she said everyone in New York sounds the same is the biggest red flag because everyone that’s from New York or has even visited New York knows that’s not true 😭 (source of the school she went to is from her Facebook page m.facebook.com/jes.sie.31149)
I hate how Jessi thinks people who call her out for blackfishing especially the black community are "haters" miss girl you're so in denial. I'm from Houston but I'm sure New Yorker doesn't all talk like that.
Can confirm. As an Asian American New Yorker, I sure as hell don't blackfish, blackface, or even do blaccent. AAVE, definitely. It's the blueprint for modern slang.
the fact that jessi is one of the BIGGEST blackfishing idols i’ve ever seen and her fans....are just...so oblivious to it? like the amount of times i’ve gotten into with jessi stans on twt is insane. ANYONE WITH TWO EYES AND A WORKING BRAIN CAN SHE IS CLEARLY BLACKFISHING
Exactly, she tans too much, she got her ass done to be big like a black women, the way she acts, she’s said the n word, something tells me the fact she lived in America means she knows what she’s doing is wrong
She is inspired by black music cause her vocal coach used to be black and the vocal coach said she can feel the black spirit in jessi so , jessi probs took that message with her for life!
When they say that we are mocking their culture and try to flip in on us but in general their racist culture is the one copying our hairstyles and outfits
Jessi being like "I don't even know what blackfishing is so I can't be doing that" like,, darling,,, mate,,, you can do something without knowing you're doing it?? People being ignorant are literally doing ignorant things exactly because they do not know?? Like that's the point..??? Her argument of people in New York all speaking the same way also is such obvious bullshit?? Like there's a New-York Accent or Dialect I guess but it's not what she's doing.. Thanks for the video, I again learned a lot ♡
exactly cuz in new york the way you speak and vocab depends on where you are from in the state. Shes just trying to capitalize off Of stereotypes. I see it everytime ppl who aren't even from new york especially when it comes to the 'foreign idols" they always wanna use aave or act a certain way that they don't normally behave.
Kpop from the beginning has a lot of the time been about copying and thinking there would be no consequences because it was aimed at a seperate Korean market, but now that they are trying to expand into the Western market they're running into problems and it's catching up with them
This is the comment. Also, when they enter the Western Market, they are competing against actual black people who perform hip-hop/r&b. I think that's why some focus more on pop in the U.S. because it's easier to go up against Ariana or Taylor (still a hard task) compared to going up against Kendrick and Beyonce (virtually impossible).
KPOP WAS BUILT OFF OF BLACK CULTURE!!! KPOP WAS BUILT OFF OF BLACK CULTURE!! The biggest issue is that Kpop stans as well as many Koreans themselves don’t want to acknowledge that there wouldn’t be a “ Kpop “ without BLACK CULTURE !!! Kpop is & was LITERALLY built off of copying black culture. JYP HIMSELF & several other older artist , producers , entertainment heads have stated this but yet a HUGE part of the Kpop community doesn’t acknowledge it . The “ originators “ & “ creators “ of Kpop have came out several times saying they literally copied black culture from the dancing , music , flow , clothing , & hairstyles. Y’all act like majority of Kpop idols & groups that debut weren’t all doing the “ backwards hat , big chains , dark eyeliner makeup , ( hood ) street wear “ when they came out BTS even did it . There’s a big lack of conversations happening regarding this issue & it’s annoying from the fans to the actual idols EVERYONE can educate themselves to have a conversation about it but they don’t instead we get “ haters / race cards / clout “ assumptions thrown at us . Koreans themselves tend to be very racist & judgmental towards black people , as well as making it a running joke when someone who is Asian & “ tanned “ they are the butt of the joke because of their skin, yet it’s all cool to copy & benefit off of the same people they look down upon or treat different STRICTLY because of their skin . There isn’t an excuse & there hasn’t been for years now I’m tired of hearing how Korea is conservative & aren’t educated when they take the time to research how to copy black culture . I myself am a fan of Kpop but I acknowledge that this conversation doesn’t happen enough but that is exactly why I Stan certain idols & groups . Because I seen several idols make the effort to educate themselves & a lot of them do it behind the scenes as far as donating & actively listening to learn ,
The funny thing is,black people be complaining about all this BS but will still listen and hype and buy their music tomorrow. They know that that's why it don't bother them none when we say sum.
This is true. That’s why I stopped funding kpop a year ago. Only group still getting my money is Blackswan because of Fatou. If she leaves, my money & support is leaving too. Money talks, and it’s the only thing these companies listen to. As long as they know they’ll keep getting your money, they have no incentive to change.
@@AdeolaAsh Me too. that is the only K-pop idol I am supporting now. After watching your vid on Agust D and the Jim Jones situation, I am completely done and disgusted. I was a crazy army and especially a HUGE ass fan of Suga. I heard of the situation back in the summer, but I only seen the shallow side. I didn't know everything behind it, nor did I know who Jim Jones really was. It breaks my heart that I was that dumb. I wanted to ignore this bullshit because their music got me through shit, but now I'm just Fucking pissed. Now I am getting rid of ALL my bts merch and removing his songs from my playlists. I really hope Fatou succeeds in this toxic ass business. Fatou and any other black girl/guy that are trying to break into the industry. We basically own it (it has our culture in it). People are fools for thinking we can't do it bc its not our culture.
@@gabbym3775 I’m racist for not spending money on an industry who constantly discriminates against my people, mocks us, and appropriates our culture? I’m racist for protecting my mental health? I’m racist because I’m tired of the anti-blackness in Kpop? I’m racist because I refuse to support to pay someone to disrespect me? Gtfo
I'm so sad because even tho those people clearly stole from black artists, there's still people to defend them. Like... This is just crazy. Imagine being in class, someone take your notes in front of everyone but yet, people came to blame you and defend the other. This is just too much for me 😩
Its funny because Jessi got even more lip filler with her recent comeback & im just....the mixed fishing is so obvious then they'll still say "how am I trying to be black?"
Lisa’s lifestyle is majorly based on black culture like 🤷🏾♀️ I’m just learning about kpop and when it comes to Lisa black stans definitely turn a blind eye and make excuses for her as for Jessi the little said about her the better, it could also be because she grew up in the states
Jessi, Amber, Wendy, Henry, etc. The idols that grew up outside Korea (US/Canada/Australia) are actually the WORST ! They step a foot in Seoul and immediately turn stupid...
I've been shown the light about NCT's Mark too. I watched a video, (one of Adeola's I believe), where Ten was calling him out about the way he talks and using black slang and stuff like that, and Mark just brushed him off. 🙄
i feel like kpop might really die down in the west if this keeps continuing, and it should. the kpop industry is absolutely turning disgusting and for the groups to keep continuing to profit off of black culture is undeserved.
That’s exactly what I’m saying kpop has completely brainwashed everyone into thinking it was actually made by Korean people and not actual Black people that made hip and rap and the problem is kpop Stan’s like to claim it as it’s their culture and as if they are not profiting off Black singers and dancers and many more people have so many problems with people of color joining K-pop when we are actually the original ones that created it asians just took it away to make their own type of genre that’s not even theirs
Especially now since BTS is out the picture. I believe that gateway for kpop here in the US will close very soon. The fandoms are toxic af and so are the group members/companies.
I don't get why blinks were so awful to cierra. I'm a harcore blink, I love bp so much, but I'm completely with cierra, and there's no reason to be angry at her because it's not Lisa's fault? The team bp seem to have around them are often awful. There was accusations of makeup plagiarism for their hylt photobook looks and Lisa's manager lost a massive ammount of her money. Once again yg needs to get their act together.
This channel’s comment section makes me feel so safe because it’s the only comment sections without the idiotic kpop stans who defend racism/everything their idol does. Instead, it’s filled with people who genuinely care about these issues and actually open their eyes into all of idol’s problematic doings.
When I heard "Switch to Me", I thought I was crazy it sounded so much like Bobby Brown's "Every little step" then I played the song in front of parents. Their faces were priceless, they were so confused.🤣🤣 But on a serious note, "Switch to me" is very similar, it is a copy even down to the dance.
Jessie is a whole fake persona,like she moved to Korea when she was like 15 and I highly doubt she could use the I hang with black people and that's still no excuse.people love running that into the ground.
I am... disgusted by Jessi wtf. She really has all her supporters brainwashed omg. And the way she got all aggressive trying to make it seem like people are crazy for thinking she's been talking in a blaccent/black fishing when she literally has been, has made me lose sooo much respect for her whaaaaat. What she says here 11:51 "Stop saying that I'm black fishing because ya'll just trying to find a reason to hate on a person" Honey, no ones even hating they're just stating the truth. You HAVE been black fishing LMAONMSOUDHwuoa Imagine labeling your fans who just wanna open your eyes and tell you the clear truth about yourself as haters just cause you can't take some constructive criticism. THIS REMINDS ME of that situation with Jackson when he was called out for that hair style and people were offended and he called his own fans haters too. Tbh I'm getting tired of this shit. Why is it so hard for idols to own up to their mistakes? It's literally their main defense mechanism to call anyone who tells them the harsh truth "haters." They need to accept that not every fan of theirs is always gonna let their insensitive actions slide. Raising awareness to an idols insensitive actions DOES NOT make somebody a hater.
Jessi being like "I asked a bunch of people what blackfishing was and no one could tell me what it was" Ok..... Did you ask Google? Did you ask UA-cam? I know you shouldn't get all of your information from the internet but if you wanna know what blackfishing is you CAN look it up. Do some research.
I really wish you and Empressive would do a collab on this video and bring awareness to this. I do feel like the Black community would go Stan Cierra but we need to know what’s good... I cringed watching the choreo because it really is a replica.
Nah the "You not tryna be black you just GANGSTA" comment on Jessi's live with the two white 🤟 emojis are sending me. Her audience is really just black wannabes n it's wild how obvious they are
The problem is ppl do not want to acknowledge that there is an issue - ADMIT IT, DEAL and FIX....give credit and keep it moving. I really dislike when ppl just brush it off or go with " I am a POC or Asian and I dont think...." U DO NOT REPRESENT AN ENTIRE GROUP OF PPL - SIT DOWN !!!! Having YES ppl around you as an artist does not help either - you are in this bubble but at some point, ppl need to realize idols are flawed as well - human. Some will take the time and educate themselves, others will call it haters vs taking a step back from their feelings and really seeing it for what it is. Artist get defensive - their feelings hurt especially when they feel they are not doing it maliciously or coming from a bad place but you have to go into history and that is BEYOND your butt hurt. GIVE THE FN CREDIT or "inspired by", it can be that simple - so problematic !
Can we also talk about jessi? Like I’ve seen sooo many kpop channels call out others for cultural appropriation then on there next video go “Stan jessi she’s a queen 👑” I mean people pretty much ignore everything’s she’s done.
If we suddenly start wearing hanboks(Korea's traditional clothing) n appropriate korean culture in our songs and stuff Istg that the world would explode, but if they do appropriate our culture is okay....🤦🤦🤦🤦 Racism is going to be the end of kpop, I said it and I say it again, thank u next-
The jessi thing didn't surprise me at all, this girl gave me bad vibes from the minute I saw her. She just screams read flags plus she's friends with blackaboo park so is it really shocking.
Lmao Jessi STAY blackfishing. And I'm tired of all these non Black celebrities trying to say "oh well I'm from NY and that's how we all talk". Bro I'm also from NY and that's a boldface lie. There are multiple accents in NY with some similarities (ie, how we pronounce certain words) but the accent that Jessi is trying to copy is straight up only natural found in Black NYers. Besides that... Jessi's not even from NY. She's Korean American from a white New Jersey suburb. Plus the way she used AAVE is so awkward and disingenuous. Kpop has brought me a lot of joy but the increased awareness of it's serious issues with culture appropriation and antiBlackness has made it that I'm not sure where I stand with it anymore, even when it comes to my favs. We really can't have shit. Anyway, stan Fatou.
Jessi is really denying these allegations WHILE TALKING IN A BLACCENT (Sorry if I'm wrong, I'm not black, but the way she moves her hands and uses words like 'y'all' seems like appropriation to me). As for blinks, I laughed at the part where you said they'd rather die than admit it, they really are like that... I used to be a blink until Lisa sat on a chair rapping and showing the finger while my God's idol lay on the floor and blinks told me and my god to fuck ourselves when we spoke up against it.🤡🤡
Just imagine they had stolen from a white artist 💀 The funny thing is: They take middle-eastern beats, black artists aesthetics, choreographie, beats, lyrics & don't even dare to credit. Ohh yeah I forgot...for them we are lower-class
I would like to see a black out! Aka: a whole year of black people all over the world not participating in anything creative and see how fast the world stops turning!
Why she had to apologize for something they stole from her. Black artists should start suing the Kpop record label. Cierra should stand up for her right she should never apologize.
Wtf, how come I didn't know about the lilidilm choreo being stolen? Blinks must have really hushed the situation because it should have a big issue. Till this date, Lisa's video is reacted to and praised and there is no credit given? Why did fans behave so toxically when Lisa isn't even the person in question. I am sorry, but sometimes fans make their idols look bad. The dislikes on the original video hurt me. And the fact that YG's choreographer denied knowing about the original choreographer is so stupid. She obviously knows her and has seen her videos. I understand how some moves can be common across choreographies but this was blatantly ripped off. I am so pissed. Cierra is the original creator and deserved respect. The fact that fans think that every person wants to be/copy their idols is so fucking stupid.
Lisa can defend herself and the black woman shouldn't of had to apologise for being bullied by kpop fans who think idols can do no wrong. Twisted shit.
i feel very sorry for my black brothers and sisters; i am not black, but i cannot imagine how frustrating life is as a black person...with people taking yalls culture left and right with no regard to credit yall....let alone the slaughter of your people. I feel for yall and hope that the world will one day understand what yall go through..
If you listen to jessi’s song “Cold Blooded” that came out not too long ago, the beat is the exact same from megan and cardis WAP 😂 Im surprised nobody is talking about it.
your information is ALWAYS so accurate Yesss! Thank u for speaking on these issues. I hope u never stop bc ppl deserve to KNOW the truth. PPl act like black ppl have nothing to do with KPOP... think again we have EVERYTHING to do with KPOP as a set foundation bc they do ALMOST everything based on BLACK culture!
I'm a blink and I held Lisa's choreographer completely accountable. Mind you, I said Lisa's choreographer, NOT LISA. As you guys can see from Bp Dairies Lisa comes to her choreographer and the choreographer already has the choreo ready , not looking at any videos nothing just the choreographer teaching Lisa. I am not black but is unfair because of this choreographer, a black female choreographer may have had their choreo stolen. I know it was decided between them but Cheshir stayed SILENT while Lisa was getting all the hate from outsiders and kpop fans, and the choreographer hate from blinks. The situation was alll unfair and the responsable one (Cheshir) was nowhere to be found.
she asked millions of people? girl there's something called the "internet" it's literally free.. um like wtf how are you going to use that for your argument when google and youtube ARE RIGHT THERE!
Supplementary video: ua-cam.com/video/NCGB1teHzrM/v-deo.html
1/30/20 Update: Cheshir (Lisa’s choreographer) *was* following Cierra prior to the incident, but Cierra only followed her back *when* the issue happened to privately dm her about it. I have posted the screenshot proof of this in my UA-cam community tab.
“You can't outdo the doer, okay? You can't outshine the shiner, baby” -Yung Baby Tate
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Thank you very much, you opened our eyes up!
@@samaralovegoodblack5775 if you see this @Adeola Ash
The comments under drift are under literal fire they keep saying she’s not copying and they keep comming on all the black people in the comments
I’m black ass hell
so yea I put my say and the fans of Jessie were being so rude
@@imjustchilling41 I think I have a few videos planned that will address that, but to be honest with you, the stans won’t care. They will always claim the ignorance card when it benefits them. Someone yesterday called JYP’s 49 year old 🍑 an “innocent kid” in response to this video. The man is half a century old and had his dancers in blackface like 🤡 These people will say and do absolutely anything to defend their faves.
@@Cutiepeye ya I saw the mess 💀 a whole joke
@@AdeolaAsh that’s what I’m saying..!!💀they literally have no life an these “fans” will do everything they can to make these so called “Idols” look good when they don’t even care about them 😭👎🏾all their doing is making money off of them and they don’t even understand or care.🤡
P.S: These fans worships them like there God, like nahhhh bro.
Like CL said “Artists, directors, writers, dancers, designers, producers, stylists in the K-pop industry are all inspired by black culture whether they acknowledge it or not”
Yasss. When CL posted that on her instagram, she gets my full respect for acknowledging that. :)
Period CL.
Hey now it's not just a K-pop industry it's also the j-pop industry as well heck you can even UA-cam Streets of rage similarities Yuzo was stealing hooks bass lines and tracks from mini black artists in the UK to make that Streets of rage soundtrack 🙄
They love stealing from us but they hate giving us credit for anything 🙄
@Strawberry Shortcake Where did it come out she's racist?
@@strawberryshortcake5768
Oh dear, could you give your sources?
Imagine if the positions were switched. Like, if the black creators were the ones who stole or appropriated the culture, or acted ignorant. The fans would've turned the world upside down, and drag these artists to absolute filth.
and floods the twt with their hashtag, also floods the person instagram with hateful comments, i'm a kpopers but sometimes i feel like a lot of kpopers are *too much* and the wholesome kpopers are overshadowed by it, i hate them toxic fans so much they give bad reputation about the community
Exactly fans woulda dragged them so fast
Now I doubted all Kpop artist who said that they write their own songs
and called them racials slurs
I really want to see that happen. So they can really understand the depths of what they do
If you look at JYP’s office, he has nothing but black artists on his wall. All of his inspiration came from black music! Just like the rest of them.
Can you send me link? I’ve looked for a while but can’t find photos
That’s scary wtf☠️
@@AdeolaAsh i think you can search up twice with michael jackson and theres one pic about that
@@thamfjointt7583 how is that scary?
@Lili but people actually like kpop idols
I swear some Kpop Stans be getting on my last nerves. Telling Cierra she’s the one that copied Lisa like DO THEY EVEN CHECK THE DATE??
Do They think she went to the future brought the Dance back THEY STUPID
Exactly that shit doesnt make fucking sense
IKR
Fr I feel the same
I'm a blink and I've noticed this as soon as I watched the video, yet was attacked by my fellow fandom for "lying"
Cierra having to apologize for someone else thieving her content just shows how deeply disrespected and gaslighted black women still are in the entertainment industry. Hoping to see more women of colour thrive with their respective creative content.
The fact that they wouldn’t even acknowledge her but steal from makes me upset
@@Hannimox
And what’s even more upsetting is Blinks behaving in such a foul manner .. wtf? Like c’mon .. could’ve been a powerful movement if they channeled that energy toward Lisa/the choreographer to let them give credit where it was due
But nope!
@@Hannimox they where also fatshaming, being racist and claiming that she wanted clout and saying she was using the race card 🤭
I WAS SO MAD ugh blinks are so stupid
Their kpop fans attacked her and a lot of kpop fans are racist against black people just like a lot of kpop idols and Korean citizens
Like why can’t they just credit the original artist it’s not that hard trust me-
Facts like you're getting butthurt cause somebody finally called you out on your bs
And money
It is hard when you try to claim that is it your original creation 🤷♀️
They don't want to give the original artist a cut of the check.
or they could just come up with their own shit and not copy off of black artists at all? have a little originality or creativity??
Imagine having to apologize for someone else stealing your choreography. K-pop is so toxic.
𝙀𝙭𝙖𝙘𝙩𝙡𝙮...
As a K-pop stan I completely agree.
Black music, black people, blackness has been, is and forever will be the blueprint
Facts. 💯✊🏿👑
Love what we create and hate who we are.
PERIODT 👏🏾💗💗👏🏾
PREACH 💯🙋🏾♀️
Peridot
I really hate that the choreographer was forced to apologise when it was so obvious that chick stole her stuff that's so upsetting
Right I blame Lisa choreographer because I definitely know she took her dance and re-created it
@@feminine8766 and then they tried to say the girl was always following the choreographer when I DMed the girl during the whole fiasco (asking if she was alright) and she told me Cheshire was following her and she didn’t know but then followed her back because Lisa fans said that was the choreographer
I wouldn't have apologized fuh shit...
@@Lady_Kunoichi fr tho
@@Lady_Kunoichi same lmao
nooooo the Lisa part like Cierra literally has more dislikes which is SOOOO unfair. She's the ORIGINAL. She posted her's TWO YEARS before Lisa could. This just hurts me. Kpop fans are crossing the line, CROSSING THE LINE
As a blink I am so sorry my fandom is like this. The band mates of BLACKPINK have done many things culturally offensive and should be called out for it. But most Blinks don’t want to accept that ://
Truly 😩
@Lili fr that’s just unacceptable and very disgusting some Koreans get more credit than actual Black people that actually make the dance or songs which is actually not OK I would totally agree that k-pop is very toxic and so is the community itself no non-black person should have to apologize for the cruel actions and using the N-word as a prop for their music they should know what racist is instead of playing with it but they choose to avoid it and act like nothing‘s wrong but again still get support for their weak as apologies they never do Korean girl groups got famous for copying black culture let me remind you black hairstyles and outfit it completely brainwashed the whole community thinking that you have to fit the whole Korean beauty Standard to fit in Just to be appreciate you can’t even be a black K-pop idol Without disrespectful as Korean fan basis coming at you
@@tokkitheragdoll476 and you will still support them after all of the bad things they have done not mentioned saying the N-word also mocking Indian culture and not apologizing for it they still get plenty of credit by a bunch of obsessed fan bases they have even when they still do bad shit but people continue to ignore it just because they like them is so crazy to me!!! When a Korean person is getting more credit than the actual black person that made it is absolutely weird and not ok
SAMEEE
Being black is cool now. Everyone wanna be black until it’s time to be black. How you like everything about black but the people lol???
Fr tho
I’m real tired of they ass fr
Wanna be black enough for the hype but not black enough to get pulled over.....
Bro fr, they like our culture but they don’t like the people-
FACTS
can we just stop using black people as an aesthetic when we literally die everyday for existing.
Fr
Trueeeee 👌
Yesss
Exactly it pisses me tf off.
🗣️
Lisa's choreographer's moves are like me when I copy my friend's homework but change some words so the teacher wouldn't notice
Lol 😆
period
LMFAOO 💀
So true ..........
Lmaooo fr tho
Jessi acts like she grew up with Tasha’s and Symone’s, knowing damn well she grew up with Tiffany’s and Sarah’s.
not Tiffany and Sarah
NOT THE TIFFANY’s AND SARAH’S-
She's quite literally from the suburbs of jersey
teehee 💀
LMAOO 😭✋🏾
Without black music. . . .there will be on kpop,K-R&B or K-Rap. . .and that's on PERIODT!
Mhmmm
Well lets just if there is no black music, music would be shit. And that is a fact
Period
@@taeka5595 exactly
Amen 🙌🏾👐🏾👐🏾💯💯
Jessi is korean-american she knows what the hell she is doing...🙄
Exactly and she left the US at 15 and is over 30 now... come on...
@@LadyAsh04 💯
Imagine getting ripped off, disrespected but still feeling the need to say sorry to your abuser and their minions. Poor woman...
Why can't they can just collaborate with the original artists/choreographers instead of stealing? They have the money and resources. Plus those people could make them something NEW by working together.
Nobody wants to work with kpop because of fandoms they attack anyone who says anything about bad or good, literally a few days ago SZA put I think on her insta "good day bts" and she got attacked and had to come out and say it was behind the scence for a song, but the sad thing is she didn't even say anything bad if she was talking about them.
Exactly
Not even a collaboration, most artist just want to be asked permission and maybe a shoutout, that's all.
Ikr, being so fucking famous thay can't do that?
prejudicy and unoriginality, not everyone is as talented as they seem.
Honestly, in my opinion Jessi’s whole brand, vibe, aesthetic, her rapping always felt so forced. she plays the stereotype of the “aggressive” black woman (because looking like black woman is what she’s trying to be) on these Korean shows and they eat it up. I could never vibe with. She gives me the vibe or someone that eats up black culture for profit but then would also say “I don’t see colour”
I always thought she was mixed 💀
I agree there is always Koreans making it seem like they are the victim which is disgusting they will usually say their culture is being mocked or people is copying them when in reality they keep copying us I feel bad for their racist culture You can’t even walk in Korea what out Koreans staring at you or getting pictures took in without your consent or permission and always have to walk by a non-color person in Korea staring at you awkwardly in really like they don’t know who you are and I realize it is all always K-pop groups that get mixed up in the black culture community There been for too many accidents with K-pop idols sing the N-word and use it as a label which is absolutely not ok but their fans always lit it slid just because they might be famous there is a big difference of copying Black people and not copying Black people What is clear as day they do that all the time Koreans make up excuses about how they group at New York or some shit to victimless their selves and defender cells as if they did not have no problem with that at all they need serious help with that toxic community they have and it’s always dumb shit like you had to fit in the Korean beauty standards you have to be Korean to be a K-pop idol without getting judged or having to fit in usually people say you can be a black K-pop idol whenever because it’s not too late but it’s still the principle you are going to get judged anyway by people who are usually used to seeing Korean groups in not black group Black girls should easily be accepted into Korean communities or culture or dances without being Reddit called or criticized by Asians or white people who think they are copying Korean cultures there is Asians/Korean people always getting tans to look more black but it’s completely ignored and not evaded it by big fan basis they choose to ignore it which is very unacceptable instead of following up on the actions that they choose to manner you will still support that Korean person that copied a black person and act like it’s all fun and games nothing is wrong we will ignore this has not been going on for years totally there is usually asian people making videos about how we are copying them or each way possible to make it seem like we are a bad race When in General they are generally the main for racism and annoying the problem with fan bases they have and not taking control
She a munch... loll I agree with u
To say that you don't know blackfishing is one thing, just educate yourself, easy. But for her to say she asked everyone around her and they didnt know what that is either ... invalidating the concept... and saying how could she blackfish???... Honey just listen to what the crowd has pointed out as blackfishing
It's so cringe 😬😬😬
That soulja boy clip was PERFECT 👏🏽😂
Ikr N really took the whole dance
I checked Cierra's channel. Some toxic fans are still mostly giving her new vids majority dislike ratios and are still in her comments, plus some of her newer vids' comments are disabled...I think the continued harassment is unwarranted at this rate since it's been ~a year since the accusations.
Exactly! People are saying “oh this was months ago, why are you bringing it back up”, and yet *blinks* are the ones *still* harassing Cierra about it months later 🤦🏾♀️ Sad that this issue is still relevant, but here we are 🤷🏾♀️
Omggg I just checked some other vids- she fr has blinks camped in her comments as recent as 2 weeks ago wtf 😭😭😭 sick and twisted
not to mention the racism like "the black girl thin she can dance she looks like some snake on the floor."
I saw it, she really apologised for nothing.
This is just sad😢😢 I can’t believe she apologized for someone else stealing her choreography. It honestly makes me upset for her😢😢
my dude, what the fuck is jessi doing,,,,
edit: i used to think she was one of the most unproblematic idols 😭😭😭😭😭 the kpop world is scary
Same. I thought so too.
I did too but😳
Me tooo
Same bro same
when daina called out jessi, jessi said she had never heard of her but literally had not only the same background to the same outfit and jessi lowkey look like she got surgery to look like daina cant lie they look alike a little
Jessi literally looks like Dainá’s Tethered now 💀 put her in that red jumpsuit like the Us movie and she’s gonna fit right in 🤡😭
@@AdeolaAsh
💀
@@AdeolaAsh LMAOOO
@@AdeolaAsh 😭oh shit 😂😂
@@AdeolaAsh omg stoppppp I just watched that movie recently ;-; 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 honestly I used to love jessi but now this has put me on the fence. I used to be obsessed with kpop and watch all the variety shows and stuff, but now I just listen to music. I've left a lot of fandoms too.
I just.... feel so bad for Ceirra... I literally a tear drop... the fact blinks calling her a clout chaser and saying this is why they have not so much activities because people always drag them💀💀
But seriously the way blinks body shamed Ceirra calling her a dancing pig and throwing racist comments is just making me cry and the fact she is STILL getting hate
You can see on her UA-cam channel she got a lot of dislikes and hate comments its just sick
Literally kpop is NOTHING without black music
Frrr kpop stole black music that's why there getting so popular and as a black Stan I ask them to respect us since they used us but they can't even do that
All ima say is: one day I thought to myself w/o us black folk this world would be boring like having a body with no soul
Really tho.👀👌🏾
What's funny is, we have our own spaces and they still won't leave us alone. Will travel through land, water and air to get to us just so they don't miss anything, only to still hate us by the end of it all...
Yasss were the life of the party 💯🙋🏾♀️🤣🎉
Then who will they steal from ha
As an Asian, yes I agree to this a lot
not @ jessi trying to deny her actions when she literally fakes a black accent, her skin colour has changed drastically and she uses black culture as an aesthetic. sis, u really aint fooling nobody apart from your fanbase.
Right.
Reality check overdue
exactly. i'm glad i unstanned her. I didn't even know she was really that problematic till now. Only thing I liked about her was the fact she expose rude idols(AOA Jimin), and her music that's it lol
Edit: omg my comment blew up-
I'm so glad someone finally said it
Been saying dis
Even before I knew Jessi’s response, her whole persona made me a little... hhmmm. She obviously uses Ebonics, her implants are made to fit a certain look, she wears black hairstyles... girl I can’t in good conscious listen or watch her anymore if she’s gonna choose to be ignorant
She doesn’t even speak Ebonics, she uses whatever phrases/ words that were made popular globally by black people to sound more “gangster”. She wouldn’t even be able to understand real Ebonics, there are so many nuances and dialects depending on what part of America you’re from.
FR! She wants to fit the stereotypical black woman stereotype...
Why would you listen to her anyway her music sucks
Omggg and people fail to realize this too even Lee of SM entertainment and JYP said KPOP wouldn’t be where it is without black music/culture/artists I was on this TikTok page and it was filled with Kr&b artists and when I tell you it was like listening to another version of what black artists put out today I had to leave immediately because it’s mind boggling how much of an influence we have in this world not only with music but with hair,language etc. But people around the world hate us it’s soooo crazy to me like really crazy
They really think they're slick
🤣🤣right
Right 😂😂theirs dumb a$$
Thank you Adeola for sharing this information. It’s because of people like you that will bring light to this community. I’m really tired of having our culture taken and used yet they are so anti black
Exactly, but it’s ok though cause very soon we’ll come back stronger and take the world by storm in everything 💯🎁😌
@@certifiedju6586 stay strong God has chosen us 🥰 God bless you all
Woah... I just saw on TikTok where people had gotten into this huge argument that Jessi isn’t blackfishing because she’s always been dark and she’s always had an accent. I wish I could show this to them.
Same
Black people living on borrowed time and wasting it explaining to people who don't want to know is a waste.
We have to push that energy to making great things first so they can have their refurbished version.
exactly people will do and say anything to defend these idols
she needs to learn that just because she grew up in new york where 'everyone sounds the same' it dosent mean that she isnt using a blaccent.. just because its normalized dosent mean its ok
She didn’t even grow up in New York 💀 she grew up in a white-dominated suburb in New Jersey. She went to River Dell Regional High school. The towns that feed into that school (Oradell & River Edge) are 76% & 61% white respectively. Their Black populations are 1.25% & 2% respectively 🗿 The fact that she said everyone in New York sounds the same is the biggest red flag because everyone that’s from New York or has even visited New York knows that’s not true 😭 (source of the school she went to is from her Facebook page m.facebook.com/jes.sie.31149)
@@AdeolaAsh girl please become a lawyer because you always come in with facts!!!
@@AdeolaAsh the way you have all the receipts👌👌 I stan😅😅
@@AdeolaAsh thats so funny omll
@@AdeolaAsh I wasn't expecting that wtf 😭
I hate how Jessi thinks people who call her out for blackfishing especially the black community are "haters" miss girl you're so in denial. I'm from Houston but I'm sure New Yorker doesn't all talk like that.
FR
Can confirm.
As an Asian American New Yorker, I sure as hell don't blackfish, blackface, or even do blaccent. AAVE, definitely. It's the blueprint for modern slang.
the fact that jessi is one of the BIGGEST blackfishing idols i’ve ever seen and her fans....are just...so oblivious to it? like the amount of times i’ve gotten into with jessi stans on twt is insane. ANYONE WITH TWO EYES AND A WORKING BRAIN CAN SHE IS CLEARLY BLACKFISHING
At first I thought she was blasian.... than I actually found out she wasn’t I was shocked
Exactly, she tans too much, she got her ass done to be big like a black women, the way she acts, she’s said the n word, something tells me the fact she lived in America means she knows what she’s doing is wrong
She is inspired by black music cause her vocal coach used to be black and the vocal coach said she can feel the black spirit in jessi so , jessi probs took that message with her for life!
@@isipaul1660 Lord her vocal coach shouldn't have said that to a non black person, look at what she did lmao😂😂😂
@@mysticwolf46 I can't lie abt that tho
Cierra’s apology sounded more sincere than K-pop idols’ apologies for saying the n word
This is the literal definition of they hate us but love our culture 🙄
Envy is a nasty thing
When they say that we are mocking their culture and try to flip in on us but in general their racist culture is the one copying our hairstyles and outfits
Jessi being like "I don't even know what blackfishing is so I can't be doing that"
like,, darling,,, mate,,, you can do something without knowing you're doing it?? People being ignorant are literally doing ignorant things exactly because they do not know?? Like that's the point..??? Her argument of people in New York all speaking the same way also is such obvious bullshit?? Like there's a New-York Accent or Dialect I guess but it's not what she's doing..
Thanks for the video, I again learned a lot ♡
Mate 🤚🏻🤚🏻💀💀💀
Jessi was born in New York but she was not raised in New York she was raised in New Jersey She was around all white kids she was around
exactly cuz in new york the way you speak and vocab depends on where you are from in the state. Shes just trying to capitalize off Of stereotypes. I see it everytime ppl who aren't even from new york especially when it comes to the 'foreign idols" they always wanna use aave or act a certain way that they don't normally behave.
Kpop from the beginning has a lot of the time been about copying and thinking there would be no consequences because it was aimed at a seperate Korean market, but now that they are trying to expand into the Western market they're running into problems and it's catching up with them
This is the comment. Also, when they enter the Western Market, they are competing against actual black people who perform hip-hop/r&b. I think that's why some focus more on pop in the U.S. because it's easier to go up against Ariana or Taylor (still a hard task) compared to going up against Kendrick and Beyonce (virtually impossible).
12:33 ''Your not tryna look black, your just *GANGSTA* ''? What the fuck?
Ikr 💀
When I saw that I was like yeah ok...💀
There is not enough people calling out Jessi. Her stans literally worship her as if she is a saint
Facts
KPOP WAS BUILT OFF OF BLACK CULTURE!!!
KPOP WAS BUILT OFF OF BLACK CULTURE!!
The biggest issue is that Kpop stans as well as many Koreans themselves don’t want to acknowledge that there wouldn’t be a “ Kpop “ without BLACK CULTURE !!! Kpop is & was LITERALLY built off of copying black culture. JYP HIMSELF & several other older artist , producers , entertainment heads have stated this but yet a HUGE part of the Kpop community doesn’t acknowledge it .
The “ originators “ & “ creators “ of Kpop have came out several times saying they literally copied black culture from the dancing , music , flow , clothing , & hairstyles. Y’all act like majority of Kpop idols & groups that debut weren’t all doing the “ backwards hat , big chains , dark eyeliner makeup , ( hood ) street wear “ when they came out BTS even did it .
There’s a big lack of conversations happening regarding this issue & it’s annoying from the fans to the actual idols EVERYONE can educate themselves to have a conversation about it but they don’t instead we get “ haters / race cards / clout “ assumptions thrown at us .
Koreans themselves tend to be very racist & judgmental towards black people , as well as making it a running joke when someone who is Asian & “ tanned “ they are the butt of the joke because of their skin, yet it’s all cool to copy & benefit off of the same people they look down upon or treat different STRICTLY because of their skin . There isn’t an excuse & there hasn’t been for years now I’m tired of hearing how Korea is conservative & aren’t educated when they take the time to research how to copy black culture .
I myself am a fan of Kpop but I acknowledge that this conversation doesn’t happen enough but that is exactly why I Stan certain idols & groups . Because I seen several idols make the effort to educate themselves & a lot of them do it behind the scenes as far as donating & actively listening to learn ,
Which kpop people do you stan?
@@AdeolaAsh Monsta X , Got7 mainly just Jb & JinYoung
We know
The funny thing is,black people be complaining about all this BS but will still listen and hype and buy their music tomorrow.
They know that that's why it don't bother them none when we say sum.
This is true. That’s why I stopped funding kpop a year ago. Only group still getting my money is Blackswan because of Fatou. If she leaves, my money & support is leaving too. Money talks, and it’s the only thing these companies listen to. As long as they know they’ll keep getting your money, they have no incentive to change.
agreed
@@AdeolaAsh Me too. that is the only K-pop idol I am supporting now. After watching your vid on Agust D and the Jim Jones situation, I am completely done and disgusted. I was a crazy army and especially a HUGE ass fan of Suga. I heard of the situation back in the summer, but I only seen the shallow side. I didn't know everything behind it, nor did I know who Jim Jones really was. It breaks my heart that I was that dumb. I wanted to ignore this bullshit because their music got me through shit, but now I'm just Fucking pissed. Now I am getting rid of ALL my bts merch and removing his songs from my playlists. I really hope Fatou succeeds in this toxic ass business. Fatou and any other black girl/guy that are trying to break into the industry. We basically own it (it has our culture in it). People are fools for thinking we can't do it bc its not our culture.
@@gabbym3775 I’m racist for not spending money on an industry who constantly discriminates against my people, mocks us, and appropriates our culture? I’m racist for protecting my mental health? I’m racist because I’m tired of the anti-blackness in Kpop? I’m racist because I refuse to support to pay someone to disrespect me? Gtfo
@@AdeolaAsh She deleted the comment, what a clown 🤡🤡🤡
I'm from NY, literally born and raised in Brooklyn and I don't even talk like that nor have I heard people talking like that.
Literally like mad ppl at my school do not talk like that
Jessi is an American, a grown ass woman. She knows wtf she's doing.
I'm so sad because even tho those people clearly stole from black artists, there's still people to defend them. Like... This is just crazy. Imagine being in class, someone take your notes in front of everyone but yet, people came to blame you and defend the other. This is just too much for me 😩
Its funny because Jessi got even more lip filler with her recent comeback & im just....the mixed fishing is so obvious then they'll still say "how am I trying to be black?"
U noticed that too I knew her lips got more plump
ya and her tanning got way too extreme now too! shes really pushing it
Lisa’s lifestyle is majorly based on black culture like 🤷🏾♀️ I’m just learning about kpop and when it comes to Lisa black stans definitely turn a blind eye and make excuses for her as for Jessi the little said about her the better, it could also be because she grew up in the states
The black Stan’s be on Reddit making excuses for jay park and jessi, talking about it’s okay and they’re invited to the cookout.
Kpop needs to find there style
Jessi, Amber, Wendy, Henry, etc. The idols that grew up outside Korea (US/Canada/Australia) are actually the WORST ! They step a foot in Seoul and immediately turn stupid...
what did henry do?
I've been shown the light about NCT's Mark too. I watched a video, (one of Adeola's I believe), where Ten was calling him out about the way he talks and using black slang and stuff like that, and Mark just brushed him off. 🙄
@@lujein3259 watch this video
ua-cam.com/video/AQ0tR4RXMHY/v-deo.html
@@lujein3259 I think u should watch her other video about K-pop and racism, CA.
I just heard abt the Amber thing...damn
i feel like kpop might really die down in the west if this keeps continuing, and it should. the kpop industry is absolutely turning disgusting and for the groups to keep continuing to profit off of black culture is undeserved.
@athena ezperanza What?!
That’s exactly what I’m saying kpop has completely brainwashed everyone into thinking it was actually made by Korean people and not actual Black people that made hip and rap and the problem is kpop Stan’s like to claim it as it’s their culture and as if they are not profiting off Black singers and dancers and many more people have so many problems with people of color joining K-pop when we are actually the original ones that created it asians just took it away to make their own type of genre that’s not even theirs
Especially now since BTS is out the picture. I believe that gateway for kpop here in the US will close very soon. The fandoms are toxic af and so are the group members/companies.
I don't get why blinks were so awful to cierra. I'm a harcore blink, I love bp so much, but I'm completely with cierra, and there's no reason to be angry at her because it's not Lisa's fault? The team bp seem to have around them are often awful. There was accusations of makeup plagiarism for their hylt photobook looks and Lisa's manager lost a massive ammount of her money. Once again yg needs to get their act together.
They're anti-black. That's why it was so easy for them to go after her with so much hate in their hearts :(
This channel’s comment section makes me feel so safe because it’s the only comment sections without the idiotic kpop stans who defend racism/everything their idol does. Instead, it’s filled with people who genuinely care about these issues and actually open their eyes into all of idol’s problematic doings.
Ikr!
Say it louder!
fr!
JYP always rips off Bobby Brown. He must be obsessed with him.
When I heard "Switch to Me", I thought I was crazy it sounded so much like Bobby Brown's "Every little step" then I played the song in front of parents. Their faces were priceless, they were so confused.🤣🤣 But on a serious note, "Switch to me" is very similar, it is a copy even down to the dance.
Thank goodness i didn't stream the MV
Even the clothes is the same aesthetic
I've BEEN saying kpop is basically black culture. Without black culture there would be no kpop period
a lot of kpop stans would rather die than be critical of their faves, it's sad.
It's time for the black artist and black people speak out more about this
Jessie is a whole fake persona,like she moved to Korea when she was like 15 and I highly doubt she could use the I hang with black people and that's still no excuse.people love running that into the ground.
Jessie is so fucking dumb she wanna be a black woman sooooo bad i never liked her ass😒
I am... disgusted by Jessi wtf. She really has all her supporters brainwashed omg. And the way she got all aggressive trying to make it seem like people are crazy for thinking she's been talking in a blaccent/black fishing when she literally has been, has made me lose sooo much respect for her whaaaaat. What she says here 11:51 "Stop saying that I'm black fishing because ya'll just trying to find a reason to hate on a person" Honey, no ones even hating they're just stating the truth. You HAVE been black fishing LMAONMSOUDHwuoa Imagine labeling your fans who just wanna open your eyes and tell you the clear truth about yourself as haters just cause you can't take some constructive criticism. THIS REMINDS ME of that situation with Jackson when he was called out for that hair style and people were offended and he called his own fans haters too. Tbh I'm getting tired of this shit. Why is it so hard for idols to own up to their mistakes? It's literally their main defense mechanism to call anyone who tells them the harsh truth "haters." They need to accept that not every fan of theirs is always gonna let their insensitive actions slide. Raising awareness to an idols insensitive actions DOES NOT make somebody a hater.
Jessi isn't even ignorant she is literally appropriating on purpose🙄
PERIOD
Omg jackson who? Is it wang?
Jessi being like "I asked a bunch of people what blackfishing was and no one could tell me what it was"
Ok..... Did you ask Google? Did you ask UA-cam?
I know you shouldn't get all of your information from the internet but if you wanna know what blackfishing is you CAN look it up. Do some research.
She needs better friends then.
Here new York friends aren't with the times some back to the future shit
Exactlyyyyyy
I really wish you and Empressive would do a collab on this video and bring awareness to this. I do feel like the Black community would go Stan Cierra but we need to know what’s good... I cringed watching the choreo because it really is a replica.
omg yesss
Yes!!!!!! Omg imagine if black twitter found out about Jessi.....her career would be over in 24 hours.
@@AleafarmerBAAHHAA, in that case it’s best to pull out the popcorn for the countdown 👀 🍿
"Even Stevie Wonder could see" lmaooooo I'm going to hell
Jessi acting like google doesn't exist 101
The genre of kpop is literally a copy of black peoples music but being sung in korean.
🙅🏾♀️NO WAY would I have apologized for someone STEALING my sh*t! Her fans would have just had to CHOKE on it!
Nah the "You not tryna be black you just GANGSTA" comment on Jessi's live with the two white 🤟 emojis are sending me. Her audience is really just black wannabes n it's wild how obvious they are
It's like Jessi took a picture of Daina to a plastic surgeon and told him that's the face she wants.
The problem is ppl do not want to acknowledge that there is an issue - ADMIT IT, DEAL and FIX....give credit and keep it moving. I really dislike when ppl just brush it off or go with " I am a POC or Asian and I dont think...." U DO NOT REPRESENT AN ENTIRE GROUP OF PPL - SIT DOWN !!!! Having YES ppl around you as an artist does not help either - you are in this bubble but at some point, ppl need to realize idols are flawed as well - human. Some will take the time and educate themselves, others will call it haters vs taking a step back from their feelings and really seeing it for what it is. Artist get defensive - their feelings hurt especially when they feel they are not doing it maliciously or coming from a bad place but you have to go into history and that is BEYOND your butt hurt. GIVE THE FN CREDIT or "inspired by", it can be that simple - so problematic !
Well as Jay Z once said black ppl are culture
Can we also talk about jessi? Like I’ve seen sooo many kpop channels call out others for cultural appropriation then on there next video go “Stan jessi she’s a queen 👑” I mean people pretty much ignore everything’s she’s done.
If we suddenly start wearing hanboks(Korea's traditional clothing) n appropriate korean culture in our songs and stuff Istg that the world would explode, but if they do appropriate our culture is okay....🤦🤦🤦🤦 Racism is going to be the end of kpop, I said it and I say it again, thank u next-
The jessi thing didn't surprise me at all, this girl gave me bad vibes from the minute I saw her. She just screams read flags plus she's friends with blackaboo park so is it really shocking.
Lmao Jessi STAY blackfishing. And I'm tired of all these non Black celebrities trying to say "oh well I'm from NY and that's how we all talk". Bro I'm also from NY and that's a boldface lie. There are multiple accents in NY with some similarities (ie, how we pronounce certain words) but the accent that Jessi is trying to copy is straight up only natural found in Black NYers. Besides that... Jessi's not even from NY. She's Korean American from a white New Jersey suburb. Plus the way she used AAVE is so awkward and disingenuous.
Kpop has brought me a lot of joy but the increased awareness of it's serious issues with culture appropriation and antiBlackness has made it that I'm not sure where I stand with it anymore, even when it comes to my favs. We really can't have shit.
Anyway, stan Fatou.
Jessi the most black fishing Korean artist I know, she lying 🤥 through her teeth 😬
😂😂😂😂😂😂
sadly my BFF stan her with Hwasa and she's black like me and idk how to explain to her that they are really problematic
Jessi is really denying these allegations WHILE TALKING IN A BLACCENT (Sorry if I'm wrong, I'm not black, but the way she moves her hands and uses words like 'y'all' seems like appropriation to me). As for blinks, I laughed at the part where you said they'd rather die than admit it, they really are like that... I used to be a blink until Lisa sat on a chair rapping and showing the finger while my God's idol lay on the floor and blinks told me and my god to fuck ourselves when we spoke up against it.🤡🤡
Ikr i left kpop because of the amount of injustice
Just imagine they had stolen from a white artist 💀 The funny thing is: They take middle-eastern beats, black artists aesthetics, choreographie, beats, lyrics & don't even dare to credit. Ohh yeah I forgot...for them we are lower-class
I would like to see a black out! Aka: a whole year of black people all over the world not participating in anything creative and see how fast the world stops turning!
Lisa stans are still giving ciera grief even to this day, they really are the worst fandom after army
Believe me, still people say blinks and army are are not toxic when things like this happens
@@mushmelolexus Same
Lilies are pretty vindictive.
Let's face it the kpop fandoms are toxic. They all think their idols cant do anything wrong.
Why she had to apologize for something they stole from her. Black artists should start suing the Kpop record label. Cierra should stand up for her right she should never apologize.
I wonder what Kpop group didn’t have a racial scandal? 🤔
Literally every group I know has done something dumb and racist
Wtf, how come I didn't know about the lilidilm choreo being stolen? Blinks must have really hushed the situation because it should have a big issue. Till this date, Lisa's video is reacted to and praised and there is no credit given? Why did fans behave so toxically when Lisa isn't even the person in question. I am sorry, but sometimes fans make their idols look bad. The dislikes on the original video hurt me. And the fact that YG's choreographer denied knowing about the original choreographer is so stupid. She obviously knows her and has seen her videos. I understand how some moves can be common across choreographies but this was blatantly ripped off. I am so pissed. Cierra is the original creator and deserved respect. The fact that fans think that every person wants to be/copy their idols is so fucking stupid.
"stop saying I'm blackfish ing because like,,,, idk what that is, and none of my friends know what it means,,,,, so I'm NOT BLACK FISHING!" girl,,,,
She sounds defensive asf
she sound stupid asf
I don’t mess with K-pop. It’s just watered down black American music.
I see Korean stars always using black artist song and dances with no credit given
When you exposed her and it switched from Blaccent to her normal voice, I was LAUGHING! The music and exposing is immaculate. 😭💀
Lisa can defend herself and the black woman shouldn't of had to apologise for being bullied by kpop fans who think idols can do no wrong.
Twisted shit.
i feel very sorry for my black brothers and sisters; i am not black, but i cannot imagine how frustrating life is as a black person...with people taking yalls culture left and right with no regard to credit yall....let alone the slaughter of your people. I feel for yall and hope that the world will one day understand what yall go through..
If you listen to jessi’s song “Cold Blooded” that came out not too long ago, the beat is the exact same from megan and cardis WAP 😂 Im surprised nobody is talking about it.
Jessi , trying so hard to copy black people buy disrespect them at the same time , what a....
your information is ALWAYS so accurate Yesss! Thank u for speaking on these issues. I hope u never stop bc ppl deserve to KNOW the truth. PPl act like black ppl have nothing to do with KPOP... think again we have EVERYTHING to do with KPOP as a set foundation bc they do ALMOST everything based on BLACK culture!
The carpool karaoke where Lisa says u have to look angry when u do pop locking and crumping moves…
(Sigh)
Their stereotyping is just…
Cirea didn't need to apologize...
Exactly they hate black women for some reason
Just proves black music is the best
Cierra was the victim and it's infuriating seeing her being the one apologising
this is the reason why i dont support k-pop idols
I'm a blink and I held Lisa's choreographer completely accountable. Mind you, I said Lisa's choreographer, NOT LISA. As you guys can see from Bp Dairies Lisa comes to her choreographer and the choreographer already has the choreo ready , not looking at any videos nothing just the choreographer teaching Lisa. I am not black but is unfair because of this choreographer, a black female choreographer may have had their choreo stolen. I know it was decided between them but Cheshir stayed SILENT while Lisa was getting all the hate from outsiders and kpop fans, and the choreographer hate from blinks. The situation was alll unfair and the responsable one (Cheshir) was nowhere to be found.
I agree
Exactly
.....it's not her fault her entire vibe is fake?, do tell...do tell
Lisa never cleared anything up or came to that woman’s aid, she’s wrong too.
I'm late to this, but I agree with you.
she asked millions of people? girl there's something called the "internet" it's literally free.. um like wtf how are you going to use that for your argument when google and youtube ARE RIGHT THERE!
The people she asked:👩🏼👩🏻👩🏻🦰👱🏻♀️
The clownery that Jessi did