'No Struggle' in Tammy Daybell's Death: ID v Chad Daybell, Day 23 Recap
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- Day 23: The jury hears from a medical examiner who performed Tammy Daybell's autopsy and she says someone restricted Tammy's airway causing her death. However on cross, Dr. Lily Marsden did not believe there was any sort of struggle.
00:00 ID v. Chad Daybell Day 23 Recap
02:26 Medical Examiner Testifies
12:52 Expert Analysis
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00:00 ID v. Chad Daybell Day 23 Recap
02:26 Medical Examiner Testifies
12:52 Expert Analysis
#CourtTV What do YOU think?
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Did the autopsy toxicology check for cyanide or arsenic poisoning of Tammy and Alex
Do Not forget Charles, he was their victim
Don't worry, Lori is going to be on trial for his death soon. If only he would have been taken seriously.
@@gwennk4962my gut tells me Lori and her brother killed jo Ryan.
@@isabellamaree1433 i’ve always thought that too, but for me i assumed it was more so alex. considering their weird relationship, she may have been venting about his (perceived) treatment of her and alex was so infuriated by her”mistreatment” he took matters into his own hands and told her after. it was in that moment after he told her what he did that would come back so many years later. she may not have sent him that first time, but when everything started happening, she knew he would do it, she kept it in her back pocket which is why she never snitched on him back then
@@isabellamaree1433 There's no doubt in my mind that Alex and Lori are responsible for Joseph Ryan's death.
@@isabellamaree1433
100% regarding Joseph Ryan. Wish that could be investigated.
A pretty face and figure does not guarantee a beautiful soul.
She not only raised those kids she raised him, Tammy was the breadwinner Chad was failure.
Unfortunately, it's those behind the scene controller. Men are considered the head of the family...no matter what..many men take full advantage of the situation...Chad took it to a perverted extreme
You could use apostrophes, you know.
Chad and Lori deserve each other…both a pair of lazy moochers, no shame, morally bankrupt creatures!
@@rosejr2614You don't even use proper punctuation in most of the comments you've posted to this channel.
Shh.
Exactly
Poor Tammy. Birthed and raised and loved 5 children and not one of them are holding their father accountable for what he did.
It is Disgusting!!!
They’re burning and dismembering Tylee but they stop for some tacos. If you can eat through dismembering a child and burning them you are hands down wicked to the core.
Wicked does not even touch the surface. Profit (prophet) of doom.
Sociopaths
I've heard there was also a ritual of eating the flesh. They may have used the tacos to cover the taste.
@@LittleOrlano way, you just made that up 😂
To get a codependent partner to go along with this kind of thing is a narcissistic psychopath's wet dream.
28 years. That hurts my heart. What a betrayal.
I hope that’s not the time he is doing in the end !
My husband and I have been married 28 years. It’s so hard to imagine.
She seemed like a super sweet lady too. Her poor children and family
I thought married a bad husband. Man this poor poor woman
Yes!
It just goes to show us...
You never know really KNOW someone.
You can be in a relationship/marriage, etc, for decades and they can still suprise you!
You just never really know a person
Death penalty
Chad is GUILTY as SIN!!!💯
Yeah…he IS sin!
Sin is a party compared to Chad
Hes the Devil in disguise
@@joannlanthier3780 Not a real GOOD disguise! 🥸
I've never hated anyone's face like Chad's and Lori's.
Nicolas cage
Absolutely agree!
I want to 'listen' to the trial, but every time I look at the screen and see Chuds grotesque image I just want to barf
Your not alone there
And Chad’s voice 🤮🤢🤢
Prior. I can smell his cheap aftershave all the way down to my house...
Look at him pretending to be upset. He's no actor !
His acting skills are as awful as his writing skills.
@@elless4817 absolutely 💯
But not a good one 🙈
@@elless4817 not to mention his voice! If he Fxxxs like he talks Lori should of fallen asleep.
He has no empathy. He has crossed that line with all the blood on his hands. Heart is stone.
Chad held her down and alex used the pillow
Not Alex, he did not help kill Tammy, it’s got to be one of his sons helped him murder Tammy.. They are all brainwashed by him and totally accepted Lori without a doubt. They were in on all of it and support him. They look like nerds, but they are far from innocent.
I like where your head is at, but the state has no clue.
Yep. There were old & fresh bruises.
Chad used his legs to hold her down and sit on her chest he had his arms free to use a pillow.
He was mostly concentrating on getting no marks on her neck.
Chad would not have risk any of the children seeing Alex there that night. But who knows, Chad is pretty much a loser and he may have had to have Alex there.
Chad let Alex in and out through a window so the kids wouldn’t see him there.
9:45 Chad had to text Tammy that he used a gun to cover if any neighbors mentioned to her that they heard shooting that day. I think Chad shot Tylee. As for him saying that he was burning "limbs and debris" - what a despicable thing to say when he was actually burning Tylee's body parts. Tylee was not debris. He's so disgusting and despicable.
I thought they just said that Alex was at Loris apartment with Tylee? & that’s where it happened, then he took the poor girl to Chads to dispose of the next morning 😢
@@HeadNtheClouds Yes, I understand that's a theory. However, they don't have a definitive cause of death. It would be very hard to manage her dead weight without drawing attention. They could have drugged her and waited for it to take effect while Alex was driving to Chad's (remember the GHB found in her system could have been exogenous Also, everything else in Chad's text relates to an element of the crime (burning, burying) so why mention a gun shot unless there was one.
@@patriciawebb5579 all so horrible! 😢
Poor Tammy, served a life sentence with a sick man and had to go through a gross act with him to bear 5 children.. feel so sorry for her.
And if you buy into LDS faith, she's sealed to him and has to spend eternity with him as well
Suffering from depression for so long but putting on a smile. She didn't need him. My heart breaks for her family.
@@miriamgourley6278He didn't believe in the LDS faith or any faith. If he did, he would be worried about where he will be spending eternity.
@@miriamgourley6278cult
She always looked so happy but was obviously hiding a lot of unhappiness behind her smile💔
If they took them to Yellowstone as a last vacation before they took their lives, why would they take two “zombies” who “weren’t Tylee and JJ” on an outing? How disgustingly evil. Ugh.
The kids… the husband Vallow … the DayBell wife … The guy that helped them … all in the way.. And these two sociopaths are attracted to each other.. Chad and Lori do not love..
I think they took them for photo ops.
There’s rumors they had planned to push them in the geyser but didn’t for some reason
@@Nicole-vl5jsgee, you think there might be witnesses? And, for both of them to fall in & die? Well that’s not suspicious at all, but then again, they are all dumb enough to think that’s a good plan. 😮
Yes I was asking myself the same question
Chads kids have been culivated almost in a cultlike fashion. They will believe whatever he tells them to. I truly hope they realise and come to term with the heinous things he did.
Not the first psychopath disguised as self righteous conman. He twisted scriptures, made up new ones and ignored the true ones to accommodate his distorted mind. now he acts like he is innocent!
Haha !! He couldn’t get the most basic tenets of Judeo-Christian religion: The Ten Commandments!! Do not commit adultry and Do not Kill
Exactly !
If he truly even thought that, he would admit it. He’s blaming everyone else
It's so sick and evil he buried his "future wife's" children while his current wife was on the property.
It's hilarious how Laurie and Chad think that they were getting ready for the end days on God's side when they were absolutely on Satan's side 100 percent.
Satan attacks the mind. Chad and Lori would have been better off reading God's Word, and applying it to their lives, instead of reading and writing Chad's books of fiction.
@ImaRandomFemale
Her poor kids are blinded. 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
I know he's just doing his job, but John Prior drives me nuts.
I agreed
Just remember the more questions John Prior asks and the more he make objections - the lesser chance there will be for Chad to say he did not have a good defense and get a re-trial.
I'm sure Pryor has a hard time finding any way to defend this obviously guilty loser but he has to try or Chad will get a retrial.
@@ImaRandomFemale yes, thank you, I will remember that while I listen to him! That's sure to aid in my survival! 😊
It’s his voice for me and he’s annoying.
I think Prior is doing a great job when you consider the facts and story he has to deal with.
I think 2 people did kill Tammy. No doubt she was strong physically and could have given Chad a fight.
you can bet they were 2 persons, one held her the other suffocated her
She could run circles around Chad.
Raccoons are nocturnal. No one caught that? The raccoon wouldn’t be seen 11AM.
They DO come out in the day.
@@Ausgar-yc1yl Do they? Didn’t know that . Not up to date on raccoonism . I stand corrected. Yet, glad for the information.
Actually people have caught on to that. Wicked men
From following this trail I’ve learned that they are nocturnal, however they ‘can’ come out during the day, for example if they are rabid, but at the end of the day, no raccoon was found, and the timing of the text was very suspicious!!!!
@@josimpson6481 They come out in the day if pregnant or have babies.
When I first saw the Yellowstone photo before JJ and Tylee were found, my heart dropped. I saw how Alex was smiling as if he had a canary in his mouth, looking directly at the person (Lori) holding the camera, the genuine happy faces of the children and my instant thought was that the evil mother was giving the kids a last treat before pushing them in the oven. Little did I know how true that was going to be and I hope and pray for justice for JJ and Tylee.
I bet there were to many people there that day to push the kids off, cause if they thought the kids were zombies why would she take them there so I'd bet they were going to push them but there was just to many people, They would of made out it was a accident
@@annettelacey7913my thoughts exactly!! I think that was the original plan! Make it look like an accident. Something had to happen with their plan. Maybe too many people, couldn’t find a secluded place.
Just here loving the banter....Vinnie naming them as "The Doomsday Bell's" is a keeper 👌
Why are there so many crimes in Idaho, some involving children?
There are more in Chicago
Exactly my thoughts for weeks since another Idaho case dropped!!
@@stacy6994per capita.
Because LDS church has high incidence of splinter groups, that the to be lunatic fringe.
One year ago I ate at Subway right near the Buckaroo Bill's where the family ate at for Tylees last meal. Sooo sad. These religious cult murderers were out of control. Thankfully the children are with Jesus forever in heaven.
That's Because All The Wierdos Live Out There. 😈
I'm old skool so half the timeI leave my phone at home. Younger generations panic when they can find their phone. And now the phone is the witness of crimes.
Exactly. I always think to myself, if someone knows their gonna go commit a crime. Why take their phone??? It's your biggest OP during investigations.
I am also old “skool” and I always have my iPhone on my person.
@@yanalujanyes people are so stupid like that,
Chad looks so deranged in the wedding photos. I can’t imagine what Tammy went through in that marriage.
Dr. Marsden was a fantastic witness. Smart, articulate, well informed, educated. No wonder John Prior hated her.
If there was no struggle it is because she was drugged first. Remember the pink foam.
I wondered about this as well -the toxicology reports did not indicate any type of opioid was used, but other substances could have been used that would perhaps not have been traced, such as chamomile tea, which would bring on drowsiness, as an example.
I'm pretty sure in the child custody case for Tylee there was mention of Lori drugging Tylee when she was little so it wouldn't surprise me if she did that.
John prior keep saying Heavy lungs because he knows its the same thing Alex had it Took.involving the lungs
@@jessiedalton2681 toxicology did not show any substances other than meds for which she was prescribed.
No opiate or opioid, or any other hypnotic/ barbiturate, benzodiazepine.
Nothing except her prescription med.
@@Fergie66813Alex Cox autopsy indicated pulmonary emboli.
Asphyxia and pulmonary embolism are far different pathologies.
That Yellowstone pic still devastates me every time I see it 😢 RIP Tylee and JJ ❤️
Tammy is so beautiful.🌹 Chad is so not.
She was stunning! Absolutely gorgeous woman! Those dimples and that natural beauty! And that piece of 💩 took her life. I started this trial with an open mind (even after Lori’s) and the evidence screams guilty.
Do you think Lori is still sitting in her prison cell thinking she is in the middle of a 'hiccup' to their plan? - Chad literally said 'Slight hiccup' in their PLAN. 🤮
Yep & she's still a believer, She ain't ever going to come out that rabbit hole because she would have to admit what a selfish evil women she is,
You are spot on Vinnie!!!!!
Thank you for watching!
I believe they would have kept on killing.
Thank you Vinnie and all Court TV crew
Thank you for watching!
Chad could have used helium to asphyxiate Tami. She would have passed out within a minute or two, no struggle, no scratching, leaves no trace behind and does not show up in toxicology tests. It can cause bleeding in the lungs, producing the pink foam.
Creepier still, side effects of helium toxicity is dizziness, muscle weakness and seizures. All things Chad claimed Tami had suffered from even though none of those symptoms were noted in her medical records. Pretty specific symptoms for him to lie about.
Don't spread this! The ignorance is a blessing.
It would be a blessing if this was the case. I don’t want to think of her struggling.
Chad is a real monster 😖….he is the real zombie!…..”acuse others of what you are”
You’re right… he projects himself on others… great point..
He was lazy and out of shape. We can see that he appears to be soul less. Like a zombie. Those poor kids.
Vinnie, he didn't do that by himself. Alex was in there too. Alex widow is LUCKY that she didn't go missing too
Zulema was in the cult, too, and she only testified because they gave her immunity. She deserves NO sympathy.
Um she was well aware of everything that happened. She was on the phone with Alex during the night Tammy was killed and she never bothered to asked what happened to Tyler and JJ. She didn't need to she knew.
@@monicahorne3230 What does the "um" mean? Comes across as an "I'm smarter than you" snark. I agree with your comment but turned off by the snark.
@@eleanoraquitaine2966🎯
NEW BOOK BY THE ALL-SEEING PROPHET once the trial is over Chad Daybell will release a new book titled, True Confession of a Killer, How My Loins Made Me Do It.
“Storm Made Me Do It.”
I bet his defense didn’t ask if officers found any raccoons.
it was asked at somepoint... animals remains sure were found... but i think it wasn't specified what animals it was
@@voicijewell, it was a let cemetery, so one would expect animal remains.
Raccoon remains were not found.
Plus, it was too soon for a raccoon to be skeletized. It would be a dead raccoon corpse, not a skeleton.
@@voicijeit was, there was no raccoon because they looked for it, they found 3 dogs and a cat I'm pretty sure
How can so many adults think it’s ok …in a normal world one person would be “ wait a minute…they are kids “ 😢
In a way Alex was the fall guy but took Chad and Lori with him 😂😊 poetic justice!
If you're pinned down, you can't struggle. You wouldn't be able to move. Either someone held her arms while chad smothered her. Or, chad straddled her held her down opposite direction of her and sat on a pillow until he knew she was dead. IMO
Vinny is having nightmares about storms💀🤣
Aren't we all? Lol.
Why is Charles always forgotten. He was murdered by them also.
He is not forgotten that's why Lori is on trial in Arizona they just can't bring that up in this trial
what sort of demon just shoots a racoon wandering along minding its own business.
All hunters are monsters.
@@FrenchieGivesYabatheKiaagree with both comments
She was obedient to a fault, and he played her.
I’m not familiar with Latter-day Saints but does anyone know if they believe in the 10 commandments? I imagine “Thou shalt not kill" and "Thou shalt not commit adultery" are universal rules.
I am not terribly knowledgable about LDS, but they believe all the tenants of Judeo-Christianity, plus a bunch other stuff that, they believe, happened when Jesus was dead and showed up in the USA.
They have additional Bible books and lots of new saints.
One they call Moroni.
Seriously. 🙄
Also, thou shall not covet thy neighbor's wife
Yes, Latter-day Saints read and believe in the Bible, including the 10 Commandments.
The religious people who make the rules are the ones that never follow them
In all the other video's I have watched his mostly looking down infront of him. But watch how his sitting up. Face up chin up. Listening and watching the ME talk about Tammy's autopsy. No emotion or grief. I got the feeling his proud of his handy work.
Yes, he seems perkier when they talk about those things, as if he enjoyed reliving his "handy work".😢
Tammy carried the family while Chad preened himself being a failed, dreadful author and she’s left with mould on her fingers 😢
The ME wiped the floor with his nonsense, good job
I thought the UTAH ME with her extensive education/training was spot on! I don't think jurors are going to get confused, imo
Wow they were killed and hidden because Lori and Chad still wanted to use their money they got monthly!
So Alex cox had to go get lunch at a taco place after burying children in the backyard. What a monster.
Can you imagaine how horrible she would have felt watching or feeling this not being able to move.
Good luck storm in Prison. He should be filled with external activity.
Hope he meets Big Bubbha’s “storm”!
Twisted sick. In the name of Jesus.....
Puhlease.
Have to wonder if there are a special place in judgement for crimes such as these.
My hypothesis: I think Chad waited until Tammy was asleep then called Alex for help. I’m undecided how much Chad participated but I believe one or both of them held her down, possibly used a plastic bag over her head like they did with JJ, and knelt on her chest to keep her still. She was probably awakened by them grabbing her and she was probably terrified and confused. It’s so heartbreaking.
Dead bodies don't roll off the bed.
The 'Doomsdaybells' though🤣😂
Heartbreaking 💔 😢 Poor Tammy 🦆🦆🦆
I wish tammy would have took a hint when he told her to raise her life insurance poor tammy
Hi Becky 👋
This is so sad huh
😪
Say it like it is, Vinnie. Straight up. It's overwhelming to listen to this. When evil meets evil.
Funny also how it's alway the defence attorney who hand his or her client the box of tissues as a sign to wipe up some imaginary tear drop.
2 children, a mother, and a father…don’t forget Charles Vallow.
Word to self ...dont try to commit a crime.
Chad knows how she died 😢❤!
His children knew nothing.... smelled nothing fishy
Garth was in total shock.
😥
If there was no struggle why were bruises on Tammy's arms? 🦆 🦆
Good point.
Lol I thought the same thing when he said " storms" lol 🤢🤮🤮
Alex might have had scratches
Chad was sobbing 😭 with joy in my opinion 😢❤?
Chad was definetly faking
Unbelievable.
The bruise on the chest is really unusual to me. I mean how do you get one there? Maybe if attempted cpr, but that was never done.
I think jj gives us a clue about her death. He had a bag over his head
He could have knelt on her chest and put pillow over her face
The 911 call after Tammy died was made by Garth not Chad. Garth began speaking and clearly didnt stick to the script his father wanted. Chad freaken out during the call and took the phone from Garth telling the operator Tammy was dead.
Chad has nice crocodile tears.
I love Vinnie's reactions!
Tylee was such a beautiful young lady
If this case was based on tick boxes for being guilty. I think Chads tick boxes would go off the charts ! I seriously thought Lori was the leader & he was just a meek pleaser. Omg since listening to this case it has revealed how much Chad was involved & how he manipulated people! Justice fir the victims & everyone who has had to suffer 🙏
One thing we know for certain, there is no genius here. Just the losers club.
When was the incident that Lori complained about JJ climbing on the refrigerator? And Alex carrying JJ in his pjs? Was he wearing the pjs he was found in? Was he already dead?
Unfortunately it could be likely, he was buried in red pajamas 😭😭😭
Preformed?
"Two people could have done this "
Prior tried so hard to look smart in front of the ME. She shot down every single lie. Such a smart woman.
Storm! 🎉
The female reporter is sounding way too happy. Tone it down
I am glad I am not the only one who thinks this.
Especially when she talks about how interesting it is to watch, or “Let’s watch!” The testimony about the autopsy. What the what? The smile is way too believable to not be creepy.
People forget Matthew 24:26 " no man knows the day or the hour not even the angles, nor the Son. Only the Father. So if Jesus who is the son cant know, then how and why does Chad get to know? It dose not seem right, for the exclusion of the son, but to give chad the info.
Love you Vinnie
I get annoyed every time i have to hear Chad yodelling on that 911 call
It was fake listen to nancy grace saying how she felt about hiss 911 call shes funny
Right Vinnie
💔💔
His questioning is trying to put words in there mouths, he is a joke. So he must have issues also trying to prove Chad/James innocent, how sad.
Wait a minute...did Vinny just say that Chad's occupation was that he was a GRAVE digger...??? Like c'mon 👀👀👀⚰️
Yes, he was a gravedigger.
He just sits there without a care in the world
Ahhhhh someone sitting on her chest with their knees on her arms seems pretty fitting for what the medical examiner found. This doesn’t seem like rocket science. Bruises on the arms, no scratch marks, small bruise on chest, asphyxiation. Fat guy sitting on her chest holding her arms down with his knees. I don’t want to type this out at all…but it seems plausible.
These are the people who will knock on your door They will want to convince you to let them in your home. Even though, this is how they treat each other, and they cannot even save themselves, they will claim to be the only ones who can save you.
A very crazy story
His kids are evil and betrayed their mom for pay off in money and cars -.
"You would thing the teeth would cut the lips..." what if she wore a mouth guard at night to stop teeth grinding?
I think by watching Court TV, there is going to be a better group of jury members in the future. The public is more aware of the proccessing of evidence as well as timelines pertaining to any crimes. When jury's are better educated. They can come to a more fare verdict.
Yes. Sounds like a silver lining
i hope he will testify
My question: what impact did this case have on that apartment complex? Is it still there? Did they demolish the unit 175?