Who Was the True Mastermind? ID v Chad Daybell Day 25 Recap
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- Опубліковано 16 тра 2024
- The state rests their case in the trial against #ChadDaybell. Texts between the #DoomsdayCouple are shared in court. Plus, the judge denies a motion of acquittal for count 4 of the amended indictment.
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Unfortunately there are religious fanatics everywhere, this is not the first time and won't be the last time either. Convincing people that killing in the name of a god is easy with weak minded people, there are so many cases out there, too many, and there is always a leader.
@@gr122it's religious history from the beginning of documented time that we know of
You asked the panel a while back why wouldn’t you bring up another charge for the others who were murdered and the panel argued that it’s a waste of tax payer dollars and they’re going to be convicted anyway. The answer is TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE LOSS OF LIFE OFFICIALLY. To give closure to the families and acknowledge that their loved ones life was valuable and seen.
Chad's Shirts Experiencing an Existential Dilemma:
"Hmm, are we short sleeved or long?"
It is the murder of Christians and Jews that far outnumber other killings based on religion. There are still daily mass murders of Christians and daily rockets into Israel. And the whole Palestinian problem is the commitment of every indoctrinated Gazan to kill every single Jew. The scale weighs very heavy against Judeo-christian culture (which does not include Mormons.) And it does seem like there have been many murderous cults spawned by the LDS religion. I heard there's a book about "the Mormon murders." @@Planet_Shel
Daybell is delusional if he thinks he's ever walking out of prison.
He knows it's a very very long shot but the alternative is admitting guilt and that he would rather die than do .
Jeezum petes, I hope you're right kuz he's got to pay just like his partner in crime! 😡
He's already proven he's delusional with beliefs and murders.
I thought that about Casey Anthony and look what happened. 😥😱😱🫨
no problem he can always create a portal 🤣
Lori and Chad could have divorced their spouses, gave JJ to Kay, Tylee to Colby and then ran off to be together. But no, they wanted the money! Life w/o parole for both of them!!!
Truly the saddest aspect is they never needed to kill their spouses and her children. A couple of malignant narcissists, the most dangerous coupling. Had they been intelligent people they could’ve gotten away with the murders of their spouses had they not killed the children. Pure greed and EGO
They wanted the childrens money... It is so sad !!
That's exactly what I thought, but they decided to go down the insanity path, I hope they both rot in prison for the rest of their miserable lives, can you just imagine having to spend the rest of your life in a jail cell.
Exactly they could get divorce and move on with there life 😑😑
After all, Lori was used to changing husbands every few years 😬😬
Btw: the crazy of this story is that they thought 💭 that nothing was going to happen to them 😑😑😑
@@lucyseidner8661 I've thought about that so many times! Did they really think people would just forget about the kids? Or that Kauai was so far away that Idaho authorities couldn't do anything and would just give up?
Chads ratings system was nothing less than a hit list - crazy & evil is the best way to describe Chad & Lori.
Chad wishes he was Harry Potter! I'd laugh my head off but.........
@@teresathayn5170In reality Chad was Peter Griffin - Family guy
Bang on was a hit list only
Spot on.
100% it is all delusional
2 immature, narcissistic, overly horney serial killers who enabled each other in every way.
Perfect synopsis! 😂
The audacity of calling Tammy vanilla. We heard and read his attempts at being seductive vomit 🤢 🤕 🤮
What does that mean?
Like a love sick teen with his badly written novels
@@stephaniesamra7960 It is typically referred to someone being alright with the missionärer and not sexually adventurous.
@@stephaniesamra7960It means that Chad was bored with having sex with Tammy. Rather than have an honest conversation with his wife about his wants and desires Chad decided to betray his loving wife, his marriage, and his family and have a gross extramarital affair with a piece of trash.
Chad talks like a prepubescent boy
The sickest part is there are still many out there (such as Jodie Hildebrand and Ruby Franke)
HOW does this happen to a person?!? It's terrifying knowing people like that are walking amongst us!!!
Mormons
Yeah.... people out there looking at you & deeming you a zombie!!!😮😮 wtf?!
Add a couple of Melanies, and a Zulema.
@@teresathayn5170 terrifying, well said
This case has to be one of the most evil and chilling ever to come to light. I find it more so than Manson.
Because Manson never lied about who he was, he was open with everything. Chad is more dangerous because you would never know that he’s a serial killer!
It's up there and here's the irony,I believe Lori is a believer in his words and promises even though he is a liar and knows quite well he don't tex Alex and is a servant of the devil.
@@Hey_its_just_me_toSo true!!
👺👺👺THAT'S WHO THEY SERVE!! And too delusional to SEE it!
Have you read Helter Skelter
They both were equally manipulative but in their own way. Any one who disagreed with them or was just in the way was labeled “dark” & their murder plotted.
TRUE! THEY BOTH WERE EVIL NUTS AND FED OFF OF EACH OTHER...THEY WERE PULLING EACH OTHERS STRINGS...THEY BOTH WERE WILLING TO GET RID OF PEOPLE
Or was worth money to them..
I feel so so bad for Charles Vallow and the way he was trapped and murdered and sweeped under the rug and forgotten about. He literally begged law enforcement to help him that Lori was crazy and his kids were in danger. Begged for help. Begged to save him and his kids and no one would listen to him and they trapped him in that house and murdered him.
Ik he's not mentioned in any of this. RIP Charles,Tyle, JJ & Tammy
Yeah. My heart always breaks for Charles Vallow! He was right about everything and still it didn’t help him, the children or Tammy in the end. Justice for CHARLES VALLOW!
I found the Charles Vallow story incredibly tragic. I knew Lori was evil after seeing her flirting with the stupid Arizona cops in front of Charles’s house after his murder by Alex. What has happened to law enforcement these days? Der.
Even after he asked for help and subsequently was murdered, the police let the killer go ! No questions asked. Even though Alex cox had a history of attacking lori’s husbands. They let him go and he went on to murder the children and Tammy. All could have been avoided if someone listened to Charles especially once he turned up dead! You couldn’t make it up. So sad
@@Lovie2023 That's because his death occurred in Arizona, not Idaho. He will get his own trial with Lori being the accused. It will be the next one after Chad gets to lose his portal for eternity.
Just when you think after watching this entire case so far that nothing could shock you , those texts have left me speechless
I KNOW THE TEXT MESSAGES WERE CREEPY
Call me naive but I wasn’t expecting much new evidence! It’s a LOT.
Poor Tylee. She had been called a zombie, so was probably being on her best behavior. And then that’s used against her. SMH.
Absolutely 💯!
Think of her mindset while Chad came into her life and then the label of zombies was beginning to be said freely around the kids, and finally directed TO the kids and Tylee knew this 😲😱. Imagine the fear in her, especially since she was truly JJs protector 💔😰🤬.
This is why Hell exists 💯
I think the state has proven beyond doubt that Chad was in charge and behind all these murders. I still can’t get over that Tami’s kids are so blind to the facts and are still sticking up for their father. I understand this must be difficult for them, but TAMI deserves better. I don’t think anything the defense can say will turn anything around.
I think some of Chad's children are afraid to disagree with him. They would be rated dark and killed.
The defense witnesses may actually make it worse
Yeah it's sad but easy to believe if we accept that they have probably (definitely) read his books and had a life of chads shxx
They were told by Chad to stay away from trial so unless they are watching they don't know any of the stuff we've heard. Those last crazy texts sure sealed the deal.
Those kids are dumb as nails to still believe in their so called father!!
It’s sadistic to see Chad and Lori speak about hurting children then ending the text with sexually charged statements. Prior had the nerve to say there are no texts of Chad saying let’s kill the kids when those texts say exactly that. I pray for justice
I AGREE THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT KILLING THE KIDS...EVIL!
After snatching Tammy's husband and getting her killed, Lori had the audacity to call Tammy her friend. Sickening.
Grown up, responsible men don't get "snatched" by promiscuous women. Men are not objects and they are not animals, they make DECISIONS. Chad had a loving and dedicated wife who obeyed him and worked hard so he can lazy around. He COULD have said no, but he CHOSE not to. He talked big about religion, but he turned out to be rotten to the core, a liar and a cheating fornicator himself. As we just heard, he made that decision over and over again. The traditional, patriarchal, misogynist "it's always the woman's fault" theory is outdated and false. Lori is a monster, but Chad was not her slave. He was a husband of 30 years, a father and a "believer," so he and only he carries the responsibility for his disgusting and criminal actions.
Chad will soon find out a lot of prisoners love a good storm at night
Big Bubba has a Storm for Chad when he gets to prison 😂😅😊just sayin 😉!
💀💀💀💀💀💀
Jail is full of storms, and he can't even pick and choose, I assume he won't be able to sit down if they get to him.
😂😂😂@@ralphmajor1947
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And also taking about Brandon's children. One of those children is 3 years old. They are talking about causing them pain. I have no words.
If not caught, I think any more would have been killed
they were next on his list, yet a 3 year old child would of been no threat to them, I believe that Melanie P wanted to follow her aunt's footsteps and get them out of her way.
Yes! Melanie P has 4kids, 2 middle ones were rated dark in text &she still gets custody of them. She had another one with the new dolt she married!😮😮
this new dolt was the only adult that came foward to help the police though. He must have felt pretty strong about it as he contacted the police on his wedding night. For that I commend him. In saying that, not sure that I would have stuck around after that red flag was flying.
@@kati1669She got custody of those kids? I didn't know that. We will have more dead kids in the future because of that.
Chad has never really worked hard to provide for his family.Poor Tammy had to work publish his books and then he wanted her to up her Life Insurance.Oh wow what a scumbag
This is not just sick, it’s actually demonic. No joke
I’ll be pleased when it’s over. I can’t stop watching but it makes me nauseous 🤢
@@nonaanon3805 I listened to all of Lori's trial. this one? not so much because I had already heard this sick mentality play itself out. It hurt my heart. But it's interesting he has actual defense witnesses. Lori's lawyers had nothing.
Amen
Emma Is a middle school teacher and she believes his delusions, really sketchy
It makes me wonder what the certification requirements are for teachers in Idaho.
She’s no longer teaching.
@@ahermannblue If you belong to the main religion, you get plenty of references to certify you and fit in. Can you imagine if you don't belong to this religion how very dark you are labeled? You don't have to be brilliant to become a teacher in or out of Idaho.
@@T.Rex33Kershaw intermediate school, she is currently on their staff list as a 3rd grade teacher.
She teaches elementary level. Her brother, Garth, teaches middle school. Terrifying!
30:53
Gibb trying to act like she didn’t fully believe in Chad & Lori’s BS, but she believed Lori was her mother in a “past life” enough to call her “mom”. Sick people!
That was Melani Polowaski. She started calling Lori Mom and Chad, Dad. She lost her own mother early in her life. And her Dad is out of the picture.
@@marian3516in Melanie GIBB'S POLICE INTERVIEW she admits that in an alternate probation that Lori was her mother and the police corroborated that fact by seeing the numerous texts on their phones where Lori called MG "baby" and vice versa. That's super creepy! Also, MP's mother was Lori's sister who died many years ago so this why MP looked up to her aunt and was so "vulnerable" (in the words of her new husband, Ian). So both of these facts are true.
Yep! Lori and Chad were called mum and dad by both Melanie's I'm sure. All are complicit immature crack pots.
Lori was very experienced sexually.... she showed him a few new tricks and he was mesmerised.
Julie Rowe is as guilty as Lori and Chad. She started this insanity
There are a lot of Julie Rowes out there, all religious fanatics and frauds
Thom Harrison visions of glory has a huge part in this somebody gets a lot of royalties over that book and kids are dieing over that book.
I think there are a LOT of people who should have been charged, excommunicated and made to answer for their delusional ideas. I feel for the wonderful and good mainstream LDS adherents but I also feel there is something inherently wrong somewhere in the teaching that leads to so many people going off the deep end. For people with normal psychology it's fine but for those who have any kind of deviancy or think outside the normal bell curve there is danger.
@@therealz360z7 You can't blame book writers or musicians if twisted a-holes are inspired to do evil from their works. Heck, The Manson Family were inspired by the Beatles White Album - that doesn't mean the Beatles were evil. Mormonism is the grand daddy cult, and we constantly see Mormons in the news doing dumb and horrible things, and yes it is related to that stupid ideology which teaches reincarnation and polyamory and that Jesus and Satan were Brothers, and much much more nonsense that is unbiblical, and insidiously evil. I'd be more inclined to blame Joseph Smith than Julie Rowe.
Good luck proving THAT. Isn’t it a bit dangerous to put her on the same level as Lori and Chad? The ones who conspired and killed k!ds? Besides, she’s no more extreme than your average Christian who believes people can be evil or possessed 😂
Zulema and Melanie Fibb are both in on this and they’ll get away with it. That’s not justice
all those women, not one moved a finger to help those children or Charles, they did nothing.
Also the neice Melanie - who has 5 kids & the 2middle ones were rated dark.... she still gets custody! And had another with the new dolt she married!!!😮😮😮
Melanie Fibb 🤣
That’s always how it works when a group of people are involved. The government needs the less-involved ppl to flip on the masterminds and the only insensitive is to give them immunity 😢
Don't forget Julie rowe
I think they both had their own motives and came together in a horrible hot mess.
Sex, power, and greed.
Absolutely. Chad knew he was making it up as he went along. At first it was because he was jealous of his siblings successes, wanted the same attention Julie Rowe was getting and used it to control his family. He used it to flirt with women. I don't think Lori believes it either. I think she pretended because she enjoyed the attention from their little cult and she could get her dirty work done by others. Chad preached even before he met Lori that Rexburg was going to be the new Holy Land and thats where the 144,000 had to be. He abandoned that real quick for Lori's dream of living in luxury in Hawaii. Jobless and childless.
The giggling during their jailhouse call..omg🤢🤮
That was so gross! I was appalled listening to that.
Did he molest Tylee
That was indeed sickening to listen to. It beggared belief.
Melani Pawlowski was going to sacrifice her children because Lori wanted her to stay in the cult, but didn't want the children around. There's texts between Lori and Alex about a password. Alex's password was 2manykids. Not to mention how heavily involved in Brandon's attempted murder Melani was. How she wasn't charged for anything is beyond me. How a judge could give her joint custody is too. Lori was telling everyone Melani would have enough money to take care of the whole cult because they thought she'd end up with Brandon's $1mil life insurance. Chad says he explained to JJ that he'd take care of Lori after they murder him and Lori thinks it's sweet. So evil.
Her kids were next. ☹️😬
Lori’s “looks” have faded fast. Her beauty, if she ever had any, has long been gone.
If I were Melanie Gibb I would be so embarrassed to admit I believed this crap. I hope these people get their heads checked
She is! She always dances around it and downplays her role. But she can’t fully deny it because there’s texts.
Ohhhhh after these texts he is definitely the mastermind!
LOVED it when Larry Woodcock said that Chad's lawyer(s) were gonna throw Lori under a steamroller, not just a bus ! clapping, LOL
A teacher in an elementary school, namely Emma, believes in Slug's scale of light and dark for children. She roams the halls and doing what?? Deeming children unworthy of living??
She would sue if they fired her
She should be let go of then.
He kids are just as delusional
She should be fired!
Omy... a TEACHER rating your child a ZOMBIE?!?! I can't believe it😮💔💔 SHAME ON EMMA!😡
Poor Tylee was probably being sweet and cleaned her room because she was afraid for her life.
It make me so sick and 😡 angry!
You know it
How does anyone know that Chad wasn't that experienced in relationships? He could have been living a complete double life that no one is aware of.
His attempts at romance are pretty telling. 🤢
To me they were both the mastermind. You got two people who had the same interests and found it attractive in one another. Lori agreed with the king and hopped in the drivers seat. She claimed her throne next to him during this whole ordeal. She just made everything worse calling her husband and kids "zombies".
I absolutely love Vinnie Politan being so passionate about this case, I tip my hat to you Vinnie and your channel! Love from Vancouver BC 🇨🇦
What upsets me is the ice cold Callous attitude of the police department there, even when he asked for help that his wife was going to murder him as well the life insurace company attempting to prevent him from changing the name of the Beneficiary on his own life insurance !!!
Are you talking about Charles or Chad?
@@jenniferlatham6935 Charles
@@jenniferlatham6935Charles obviously 🙄
The thing that sucks is that police can’t prevent crimes based on what someone tells them might happen. That would infringe on our constitutional rights. Esp since a lot of these ppl who go to cops are actually liars. I had a mentally ill ex roommate accuse me of all sorts of stuff and brought the police into it JUST because I wanted to move out early bc of her. Luckily I knew my rights and sure enough- they didn’t do anything but suggest I stay away from her. Their hands are tied. But they can at LEAST offer guidance and refer the person to resources 😢
@@Rebecca236it’s not THAT obvious considering that Charles has zero to do with this (Chad’s) legal case going on now, and there are a LOT of new people to it too.
This is absolutely sickening. Lori and Chad manipulated each other to get what they wanted. I mean Lori was looking to Chad to get light/dark numbers. The kids were dark when they misbehaved but when they behaved, they were switched back to light. And the numbers.... Where TF did Chad come up with these numbers. "I'll text you when they start acting up and we will zap them" is a very disturbing comment to me.
Then when Tylee and JJ's numbers increased, Lori was disappointed that the number wasn't at zero.
It's like they were just waiting for the right time for Tylee, JJ, and Tammy's numbers to be just right to justify killing them.
Charles, JJ, Tylee and Tammy were just obstacles and never stood a chance against these monsters.
Then talking about sex right in the middle of talking about the demise of her kids. How disgusting!!!! It's like two horny teenagers who just don't give a damn about anyone but themselves.
Both guilty of this. Sickening texts
Chad made a mistake thinking that he was receiving messages from God when instead it was from the Devil
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You made the mistake of believing in mythical creatures. God is everything or God is nothing.
He wasn't getting messages from anyone or anything. It was all his, and Lori's, own sick & twisted plan to collect life insurance & rod themselves of people they were supposed to love.
I can't believe he thought a trial was a good idea.
He’s a narcissist. They are delulu by nature.
How can anyone follow Chad, I mean he’s not even good looking or charismatic; he talks, acts, and looks like a big dufuss! Lori is just right out kookoo for Cocoa Puffs!
And let’s not forget there are many many more of them!!!! Zulema got immunity which means she was in on it, she knew!
They should all be in jail for conspiracy!!!!
Yes it’s true, if you do erase arch on cult leaders one thing they all have in common is that they are charismatic and are leaders! Chad? No way!
this is what happens in the age of self-______ (write in any title here).
self-prophet, in this case. and everyone just bandwagons because their education is the university of google and a mindset that people aren’t bad. lol
like, come on.
@@Hey_its_just_me_to I agree he is boring, just to hear him talk would put me to sleep.
Demonic possession
@@spookshow6999 I wonder sometimes, we can only blame mental illness for so long, like the women who kill their children there has to be more!
I am sooo glad Charles gave the life insurance to his sister!! Hahaha Lori!! Disappointed???
Lori is manipulating him by his 'storm'
Hard to fathom that droll, monotone voice of his talking dirty during sexy time.
Never gonna be able to hear the word storm again without being reminded of this 🤢 ugh they've ruined the word for me
@@weaponizedglitter69 if his sex was anything like the way he talked, it wasn't good LOL
Just EW.
I just up chucked a little, that's just a nasty thought 🤮
I hope the jury get to take these texts back to the Jury Room when they deliberate
Of course, they get access to all evidence for review. Just not their notes. They can only take notes to embed info into their memory and not to reference.
I'm LDS and I know this is nuts.
Lds here too, this is revolting
Same.
Chad acted like he was god how can you predict how long someone lives its just so horiffic now they will never see each other again
After listening to all those phone calls especially the ones before the kids were found when Lori was in jail, no doubt Chad was the one behind all the delusion in his pathetic life. When the defense starts calling Chads kids to the stand I think the whole world will see the truth of the madness. When Lori and Chad met was like adding gas to the fire.
@@Marilisbeth1next week
I still am having a hard time with Chad’s kids. Especially Emma and the conversation she had with Chad in the police car. I think some of those kids know more than they are saying and will do whatever they can to help Chad. With that said, it’s so sad they can’t or won’t see the evidence and are not advocating for their mother.
Chad's the only parent they have left. SHAME on him!!!!
Chad is a monster for dragging his children to court to lie for him for no reason because he's definitely going to spend the rest of his life in prison. I hope that his children are held accountable if they decide to commit perjury for their child murdering father.
The perfect storm was their union (no pun intended)
Her OWN children!! Poor babies. 💔💔
I don't believe it was God telling Lori & Chad to do this, but them using God to fit their own agenda.
Well... duh.
@@helencheung2537 no need to be rude
@@catworld8119I don’t think she meant to be rude. She’s being honest.
I think lawyering on both sides have been fairly slick. I admire Mr. Prior for handling the defense on his own. But, Blake & prosecutors are the stars here. What a way to finish! All that new info that ties everything up sequentially with Chad leading the way was superb in placement and presentation. I agree with Judge Boyce re everything they have proved. 👍 Thank you Vinnie
To have 4 lawyers for the state screw up so royally after months of opportunity to get it right by having the date on the indictment on count 4 for the murder of JJ incorrect could have cost everything regarding justice for JJ. I think the fact that Judge Boyce picked it up immediately after the state rested and then subsequently found a way to fix this leaves no one in doubt that now Judge Boyce is clearly the star in this one!
I agree with you
Well said!
It was fixed because it was a typo. The original indictment has the correct date. It was not the prosecutions error. @@julesfromsydney
@@laurieg673Whether you agree with it or not, the law is the law, and there in no such thing as a typo. It is the prosecution's job to ensure all case documents submitted to the court are true and correct. An error of this magnitude once prosecution rests could have caused a lot of damage in this case. You would not expect that after all the months they had to prepare that an error like this would not occur. Judge Boyce literally saved this from causing irreparable damage!
They seem like Charles Vallow is forgotten about.
He hasnot to do with this case.
@@Ausgar-yc1ylHis trial will be in Arizona
@@mamaindy61 I understand that, thank you.
Poor Charles, tried and tried to get in front of ALLLLLL of this evil stuff, fell on deaf ears! What a shame😢
It's the end of times for Chad Daybell, and so it should be!
He didn’t see that coming did he the big weirdo
I turned up the pain says it all!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think the testimony so far clearly has Chad as the ring leader!
Here’s how I see this going:
Lori vents to Chad about the kids driving her nuts, he slips it in that they are being influenced by evil, she is VERY receptive to that idea and now he knows she will be open to the “solution”.
They were equals in these diabolical acts.
Even IF! He never laid a hand on the kids! Even IF! he never laid a hand on Tammy (I believe he did) HE 100% is responsible and those text if nothing else proves it, ALL OF IT!!! 😢 goodby in advance Chad!!!
Prosecutor Blake is a badass!! I love how she’s on top of all the objections. So professional and totally commanding! Kind of fan girling over it, honestly.
Yet she missed the clerical errors that could have resulted it the case against Chad being dismissed.
@@helencheung2537 if in your eyes, all of her good work can be undone by one typo that you don’t even know if she did, then I don’t know what to say.
With all the "castings" and light and dark..it's like Chad is practicing witchcraft but presenting it as " religion and God's will"
They never stopped and just kept plotting murder, turned them on. Chad is in real trouble, he was plotting it all.
In Lori he found fertile ground he could easily work with since she was already a crazy religious fanatic before she met him. When he realized she was attracted to him he couldn't believe his luck since he has been an ugly looser all his life, he couldn't wait to show her off to family and friends before and after married, like look what I got, he showed her as his trophy it boosted his ego.
It's funny that Chad's kids aren't dark( THEY ARE ON THEIR DAD'S SIDE THAT'S WHY)
I missed the entire Chad trial. Good grief! It took too long to come. I'm headed back to watch it all after i finish this video.
So glad you guys got it!
sharonda’s viewpoints are really useful. But, it is difficult to hear what she is saying. Can someone in the technology team of Court TV help Sharonda out with her microphone? It’s really muffled and quiet.
Apart from that little gripe, this was a great show. I was particularly fascinated in hearing from Adam Cox. His sister was a leader in a murderous cult and his brother committed several murders. He must be devastated. I hope he is getting all the support he needs.
Those two ghouls are as evil as each other.
Make no mistake. This guy: Mr Potato head may seem laughable and pathetic. but he is a walking talking servant to a host of demonic entities. This is no joke, especially when you see dismemberment on their sacrifices: Tylee
Demonic entities? What cult are you in?
They sound absolutely crazy
They are both so insecure that they even had to manipulate Alex to get involved to do their dirty job.
I wish JJ’s grandparents were my grandparents. My Grandpa died when I was 3.
I was in the courtroom last week
What did you think of Chad in person he comes across dull and stupid
@@janecarroll5641 he plays with his hands...he has very little petite hands. He tries to stare at all of us when we come in...I wouldn't make eye contact
@@stark8961 he just looks so ordinary and vanilla , as he described his poor wife , she seemed like she was just doing everything and going along with his ideas for a quiet life 💔
@@janecarroll5641 he is very vanilla
Thanks! Love your reporting.
Who is the mastermind is really irrelevant
Not really. Especially if Chad didn't do the killing. Have to show involvement on his part....or in this particular case that it was Chad's idea.
It's is relevant, the death penalty is on the table.
@duchessmartinez2035 no. The death penalty is for Tammy. Has nothing to do with Jj. Not relevant to the death penalty. Just saying
@@barbmurraybabsswhy is it just for Tammy. Genuinely curious.
It’s for all 3… the killing of more than 1… he is a serial killer…
The narcissism was already there in both Lori & Chad. Chad's "writin talent" made "fame" go to his head. Lori's male attention blew her up to fame in her own mind. Over confidence in both.
Yes! Classic case of delusions of grandeur by a psych0path (Chad) and a narcissist (lori)!!
You can't call either a mastermind since they're both sitting in prison.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Love your reporting!
Amend it. Those babies need justice.
Please! Can anyone explain to me how these 2 people really thought they could get away with killing all these innocent people?
Can't they really be out of their warped minds?
They have the power 🤣 plus the world was going to end so no one would notice cuz everyone would of been dead except for Chad's cult circle.
They thought Jesus was coming.
yes. they are really that out of their warped minds. Psychopaths who didn't see these as murders, but some kind of twisted mercy killings.
Melanie Denise really imitates Lori. She does the same face movements. If anyone's possessed I think these two are
Laurie is so angry at Charles's sister.Getting the money that she's not going to let Charles sister get JJ and she doesn't want JJ anymore.Sold j j has to be destroyed
Let's imagine for a minute that Lori truly believed her children had turned into zombies and were dark spirits that needed to be Dispatched with. Where is the sadness? Wouldn't you, as a mother, be sad that your children were overtaken by dark spirits, and you were losing them? There is zero sadness. And that has nothing to do with her crazy beliefs. And she wouldn't have able to use an insanity plea in another state because she knew how to hide all the details and acting around police. She knew right from wrong and did everything to cover up their dark deeds.
If i was on the jury, I would vote guilty because of Pryor's courtroom antagonistic questioning.
Then you have no business ever being on any jury.
@@helencheung2537 I regularly serve. If you have a bad lawyer that wants to argue and be rude instead of defending you then expect jurors to doubt anything your lawyer presents.
Hi from Australia. I cannot grasp how people can believe anything Chad said.
Only in America
I’m 5:05mins in and my jaw is on the GROUND!!! The way they discussed turning up the pain 🤯😤😠😡😢
Very Sick 😢Thank 😊 🙏 You Vinny ❤️ For Your 🙏 Reporting on Court TV 😢
The children were found in Chads yard. Tools used in his garage. Window upstairs added on room looks over area where JJ and Tylee were found and all witnesses say basically same story. So we wait and see after defense witnesses testify and then verdict from jurors. I’m sure on needles and pins.
I live for Closing Arguments with Vinnie! I click so fast. Always speaks TRUTH!
He's the best
These poor producers! So vile these texts
Book title: "Murder for Money"-by Chad and Lori Daybell.
Her name is Vallow not Daybell.
What kind of defense can he have?
Don’t say “perfect storm” 😬
I wonder how Alex cox carried out the orders and who told him to do it , I hope there is evidence somewhere of exactly how this happened in detail , maybe there hidden texts or calls from Lori
Alex Cox was as delusional as Lori. They were both heavily into all their religious beliefs for a long time including end of days theories. They both grew up in a Mormon household then as adults moved further into their own version of religious beliefs. It was also mentioned that Alex had an "inappropriate relationship with Lori" which was claimed by his first wife Debbie, who quickly divorced him when she realised this. Alex was seen as Lori's Hitman. He roughed up Lori's first husband Joseph Ryan then killed her husband Charles Vallow. Chad & Lori further convinced Alex that in a religious context that he was assigned by God to be Lori's protector. He was then coerced, under perceived instructions from Chad & Lori via God to attempt to murder Tammy and Brandon by shooting at them and then convinced to play his part in the murders of Tammy, Tylee & JJ. Alex was all in to this cult like environment with Chad at the helm and Lori by his side.
Chad is the mastermind!! Lori was easy prey for him, she has one of those gullible personalities. Chad is a story teller and she bought it all. He is really dangerous.
@COURTTV I have always loved Vinnie's style of reporting.
Thank you for all your hard work to keep us update. Always appreciated. From the uk with love✨️🙏💞
Vinnie, your intense sentiments are exactly as mine, all these unbelievable deaths cannot be reconciled. The guilty are just there in front of all of us. I observe this from the other side of the world, but this tragedy is horrific for many. May justice prevail. Thank you for your hard work.
Is he no longer wearing a wedding band ? He really is throwing her under the bus,but really? What other defence does he have?
The Slug who made Biblical claims was a tentacle of a Demon. Ritualistic dismemberment according to occult calendar. Occult sacrifices. November 5 just another ritualistic day on occult calendar.
👏👏👏💯💯 It's SO MESSED UP! Just think we prob only really know 1/2 the evil these people have done!
Both culpable. I cant understand how she believed all that crap about light and dark. Its just beyond me!
No low self- esteem; just the opposite. Two narcissists.
Chuddy got a trip to Hawaii and prison.
I figured as Scott Reich did that when Lori went to the mental institute for over 9 months that she was bat s#@t crazy then I thought maybe they had got her on meds and she was able to help with her defense THEN watching her trial she was no help at all and it was left up to her defense attorneys whom hardlly objected throughout the trial THEN her last statement blew me away , she is still delusional . Here we are at Chads trial and he wasn't delusional at all , he just wanted Lori period without the kids . We all knew his defense was going to throw Lori and Alex under the bus and that's exactly what's happening. We know he told several women that they had been married in another life , I think he was having a mid life crisis and then he met Lori and its fantasy land . He was enjoying a good looking woman and all the power he thought he had , its disgusting and the smallest cult I've ever heard of . I hope he gets life like she did , he was the one giving this group all the answers so he will be held accountable for that . RIP Charles who btw I thought was a very handsome man , Tammy I hope she haunts him and those poor children Tylee and JJ ❤
All these cults have their roots in the LDS church, just look into it, it's fact.