In Doom 4, it is told that Doomguy basically killed demons in Hell for an eternity while travelling through different dimensions and versions of Hell while doing so. Not only does that make Doom 4 a direct sequel to Doom 64, it also means that every single fucking .wad is canon. That includes Pirate Doom, Nuts.wad and FUCKING GREZZO. id, you beautiful bastards.
+Bucketninja So what you're saying is there's a game released this year that's actually worth buying , ... instead of bitching about the good old days when 600 x 800 was a default screen setting.
+SiliconBong 600 х 800 default? hmm, it looks like someone played his games sideways... with his display put on a side... y'know... with image turned 90 degrees... erm... nevermind.
I didn't agree with any of the complaints. This isn't '91. I am never going to complain about checkpoints when the originals didn't have them. They seemed spaced out fine, too. Right before large battles or even in between "this isn't my final form" boss sections. The lost souls I found much easier to kill than in previous games. Especially with how accurate the assault rifle is. Your performance is a strange anomaly as Doom 4 is easily one of the best PC releases we've had in years. Even while streaming at 1080p60fps and playing at 1440p the game didn't stutter and played very smoothly. I'm going to guess you have an amd gpu as apparently amd's side is not as lucky as nvidia's with this release but I can't confirm that. All the other complaints were basically "this isn't a doom remake. It should be a doom remake!" They took doom, made it into a new game, while still managing to make it doom. That's called a sequel. That's how a sequel should be. They would not have made any where near as much money with a different title or enemies. Just really, really silly complaints when it comes to this.
Uhh, it's not really a sequel(even though the game hints at having tons of universes with Doomguy fighting demons making every Doom canon), more like a reboot. Doesn't make it any less kickass though.
it is a sequel, they basically tell you he's the original doomguy and he traveled to many worlds/ different universes fighting hell, and then was trapped in the sarcophagus by the demons until this alternate earth came in and brought him back. Funny enough hes B.J. Blazkowicz descendant of William from wolfenstein series.
indeed, i always consider Doom 3 as a Spin Off more than a true Sequel. Sure, in that time have some great visuals, but in gameplay was just a rip off from games like Aliens Vs Predator or System Shock 2 with more shooting elements
+Lugbzurg they cant flying wild hog works for devolver digital so yea besides it would be better if id actually made the mp unlike doom where they got members from 343 and infinity ward
+RevanBladeZ You wanna know what I personally would like to see coming out of FWH? A reboot/remake of Shogo: Mobile Armor Division, complete with more visceral mecha action and a refined anime presentation.
+SegaCDUniverse If you're talking about Quake 1, I'm right here with you. I've always regretted that they changed the game universe for the "sequels". The atmosphere in Quake 2 & 4 feels more like Doom to me. Have you tried playing Quake in DarkPlaces with HD textures and models, normal mapping, dynamic lights and new particle effects? It gives the game a whole new second life. Also, you should see what the community does now with the modern source ports. Maps like Honey or Something Wicked will floor you.
SegaCDUniverse You won't regret it. You'll need a powerful rig if you wanna enjoy top graphical quality. If you don't feel like going through the hassle of installing dozens of mods by yourself, check out the Epsilon Build: it does pretty much all of it for you. Just drop your .pak files from the original games into the Epsilon/id1 folder and you're good to go, you don't even need a regular Quake install! Works with the mission packs and a few mods, too. For the maps I mentioned earlier, though, you'll probably need a less heavily modified engine. Try a "dry" version of DarkPlaces, that is one without all the tweaks of the Epsilon build, or QuakeSpasm. The latter will be needed for maps that use Quoth content (another mod that adds new lovecraftian monsters and features), like Red777. Note that the Epsilon build doesn't have hi-poly models for all monsters. The most common ones, like the ogre or the marines, still have low-poly models. You may want to change that but you'll really need a high-end up-to-date system to run the game smoothly with these, especially in the mission packs. ATTENTION: if you replace some models with more detailed ones, you'll need the appropriate textures for them or you'll likely end up with invisible monsters. Also, for legal reasons you can't pack the original music with any online distribution (that's why the GOG version has none), but you can easily google an .ogg pack of Nine Inch Nails' soundtrack. XOlve's replacement is very good in its own way and fits the game quite fine, so you should play at least one full episode with it, but personally I can't imagine playing the original game without NIN's creepy dark ambient tracks. In any case, though Epsilon does ease up the process, you'll probably still need to do some manual tweaking in not-quite-user-friendly options menus, if only to get the lighting to work properly (a good spot to check this is the last turn in E1M2's shooting spikes corridor - if it's overly lit to the point of blinding your character, then something's definitely wrong). But it's worth it nonetheless. www.moddb.com/mods/quake-epsilon-build A few useful links: icculus.org/twilight/darkplaces/ DarkPlaces homepage, for latest builds www.moddb.com/engines/darkplaces-engine DarkPlaces ModDB page, for extra content and add-ons quakespasm.sourceforge.net/ QuakeSpasm homepage. Navigation is a bit "personalized" but you'll figure it out anyway. www.quaddicted.com/ Quaddicted, the reference custom map repository www.quaddicted.com/reviews/aopfm_v2.html Abyss of Pandemonium, the unreleased official Mission Pack #3 quakeone.com/forums/quake-mod-releases/works-progress/11588-hd-textures-sp-maps.html HD textures for the best single player custom maps, including links to the maps themselves. quakeone.com/forums/quake-talk/single-player/6775-full-version-dismal-obliette.html Full version of E2M6 including the lost entrance. You might want to replace the original E2M6 with this one (you'll need to rename it) to play it within the flow of the single player campaign, as it's too tough to start it from scratch without cheating: you won't have enough shotgun ammo and no RL/GL to blow these zombies up. Be sure to scroll down the thread to get the RTlights file to use with this version of the map. quakeone.com/forums/quake-help/general-help/10727-definitive-hd-replacement-content-list.html More HD content, some included in Epsilon, some not quakeone.com/forums/quake-mod-releases/finished-works/6306-ruohis-models.html New hi-poly models quakeone.com/forums/quake-help/quake-clients/8336-tut-add-particle-effects-models-sounds-into-quake-via-ent-files-darkplaces-2.html#post129831 Tutorial thread in case you feel like dabbling into effect tweaking yourself
+Jonas King Yeah, Shambler's Castle is on my to-do list since I saw its monsters' models and textures imported in Quake. I do like the Stroggos side of Quake but much like Doom 3, I wish they had made it into a different franchise.
Alkaiser My favorite par was when Samuel Hayden is telling Doomguy to carefully remove the Argent whatsis so it can be preserved, and he just smashes it in with his foot.
I disagree on it not feeling like Doom and the double jumping, I haven't seen my friends (with varying quality PC's) have fps issues at recommended settings so it doesn't seem too prevalent (I'm running flawless). But on the double jumping, there was some rudimentary sprint based platforming in the old game , due to vertical limits of the old Doom game (there was also jumping bits in Doom 3), this was the farthest it could go. It seems natural with the tech we have now, and the move toward jumping seen in later, more tech advanced Id games makes the inclusion of jump and ledge grabbing platforming seem like a natural addition. To me it's one of those "if they were able to do it in 1993 they would have" kind of feelings. Does that make sense GG?
+FrankDaTank1218 I think old games were often about "let's see what this engine can be made to do" and newer ones a bit more about "which kinda stuff do we want to include" without too much creativity being manifested. Back in Doom, even very simple platforming represented something that kinda hadn't been done before in the genre (well there was RotT I suppose) and so it was kinda cooler for that reason. A whole level could be based largely on a gimmick like Doom 2's The Chasm or Barrels o' Fun, because they could. So compared to something like that, based on what I saw in this review, I doubt there's a lot that could be called new now in the D4 designs. There was Prey even... So yeah if the original id could have done it in '93 they might well have, but they would have done a lot more cool stuff as well. Again, I'm basing this just on the review and I don't know how it actually plays. Furthermore in Doom the speed was higher so I guess platforming would have been more exciting for that reason too. Lastly, if you're used to the Quake titles, your bar for what constitutes fun movement is gonna be way higher than just double jumping up platforms.
I'm not sure I understand your comment about wishing the game had a different name/wasn't marketed as a DOOM reboot, especially since you followed that um immediately by saying it was everything you could want from a DOOM game. If it does the franchise justice, then what is the issue with them making use of the franchise's name? After all, it's been 23 years since DOOM first came out, and Id have been struggling to get their feet back in the game for over a decade at this point: it makes sense for them to hail back to their glory days to try and grab business, and if it is as good as everyone seems to say, then they've shown that utilizing that old design sense was the most positive route they could have taken.
+Guerilla Grue Plays I agree it does seem to be a contradiction. But if it wasn't called Doom then at least we'd get less of the idiots complaining it sucks because "it's not real Doom".
I was thinking the same thing, (Man i'm late to the party on this one). Seems like he's paying lip service to nutty video game purists who would claim anything other than a carbon copy of a 20 year old game is unworthy of using the franchise branding.
"...had Bethesda made this as a throwback to old school FPS instead of calling it Doom, it would have garnered the same attention." Absolutely, 100% no way do I believe this.
Actually.. Doom 1 and 2 do have sprint... well.. "run" I absolutely love the game, the map design in particular. Well. that and the combat which is pretty damn perfect
I disagree with the idea that this game should have been its own IP. Doom needed a comeback. Since I was little I've been waiting for this game. Story time; My exposure to Doom was the movie. When I was a kid I saw it and enjoyed it. (Now not so much) I saw the special features and saw there where games that the movie was based on and I immediately wanted to play them. I wouldn't play them until summer of 2007. That's when I finally got my hands on Doom 3 Ultimate Edition and that summer, all I played was Doom 3 and the classics. As the years went on my want for a Doom 4 increased and then waned as nothing seemed concrete. The fact that the artwork of the game and rumors that it was like Call of Duty, made me not even want the game. And then nothing but silence. No news no info nothing. After playing through RAGE my want for Doom vanished much like the game. All I had was Doom 3 and the classics. Suddenly E3 2013, a teaser showing a Cyber-Demon and the title DOOM show up. Hope was regained. The more I heard about this Doom the more excited I got. Then E3 2015. Gameplay trailers, footage concrete evidence that DOOM was indeed back. My hype went to overdrive. For a whole year I've anticipated this game for a whole year and no amount of bullshit ass steam reviews were gonna stop me from getting this game. Now we are in the present and I LOVE THIS GAME. Much like Splatoon it is that breath of fresh air on a stale genre that is overcrowded with "realistic military shooters" DOOM is back and I can now lay years of anticipation to rest.
+Sebastian Cintron I still remember when I was 5 years old in the 90s and I had to go in Dos to play Doom by typing "C:/games/doom2" or something like that. I've been waiting a while too :P
Sebastian Cintron How does an "official" comeback that involves none of the original developers any different an "unofficial" mod that involves none of the original developers, especially given that the "official" comeback was made specifically to cash-in on said "unofficial" mod, Brutal DooM, and furthermore Project Brutality? PB/BD has thousands more levels, can have hundreds of more enemies that are both faster and smarter than those in the new game, and has several more weapons with alternate modes and attacks. New DooM has forge mode, only has levels built from damn prefabs, is not able to be modded, and is a slowed-down console-friendly version of PB/BD. The PC version is a DAMN PORT. Let that sink in, the sequel to one of the PC's flagship franchises that is based on a mod that is nigh-unplayable on consoles and which plays on one of the most customizable pc-centric engines out there is a damn console port.
You know I kind of feel less stressed out and angry when I play doom. It’s like releasing all your pent up rage and stress at the gym, but for when I don’t have the time to actually go work out. Really just mindless, after work or school fun without any of the bullshit of modern AAA games 10/10👍
@@weaponizedautism3269 Because Doom Eternals game engine is more optimized now thus the loading screen are fast and revivals are instant because of 1ups.
Johan Gerber yeah my steam usually downloads at 11/13 mb per sec, but this time with Doom there were a lot of slow moments and even moments it was stuck wit 0 kbps/sec. Guess it was really crowded that day on steam when DOOM was released.
What perplexes me about Doom is how they marketed everything people would hate about it like the lackluster multiplayer and never the meat of the game itself, the thing people craved for. I'm glad the actual game is good, however, I was worried for a long time they would fuck it up. May pick it up soon.
+Nazrat84 Bethesda did a remarkably poor job of marketing the game. All they had to do was just show the actual game footage instead of that crappy E3 demo with the overlong chainsaw animations and the slow walking speed.
Clearly the marketing team didn't give a toss about the substance of the game and just looked at some demographic pie charts or something to decide how they should approach things.
+The Hunter Yeah but they're not remade, they're the exact same old maps with the same old textures that we already have in the original, so they're completely pointless. Plus from the footage I've seen, they completely forgot to implement the lighting. I mean the E1M2 maze in fullbright? Come on! Way to kill the mood.
+Gggmanlives I see you haven't done Underhell (Half-Life 2 Mod) yet. Might be worth a look after the disappointment of They Hunder Again ;) www.moddb.com/mods/underhell
The remark about them not naming it doom and instead making this game a homage to Old School shooters, I have to respectfully disagree on that because then we wouldn't be getting Doom Eternal would we?
I'm kind of surprised that the game industry hasn't started using Blu-ray as the default format for PC because both of the consoles Xbox and PS4 use Blu-ray not DVD
Good review mate. I am glad that they haven't gone and ruined a beloved franchise such as Doom. I can always rely on ggman. You even released this vid before the so called tog dogs at ign.
For everyone having performance problems - try ti turn "chromatic aberration" off. That was the magic key for me. Everything maxed out @steady 60fps. I've been playing for 16 hours and i'm not done yet with singleplayer. I immediately turned Waypoints, compass and buttonindications off for the best experience. God I love this game! It's so much fun!
1:20 Whoa, that Revenant jump was pretty smooth. I've heard some other people saying that the AI is quite good, well, considering they're mostly demons.
It's interesting to see your take on the new Doom. I was very skeptical before, so I wasn't expected to like it as much but I love it as a game. It's great compared to modern FPS, a step forward, although I do have some criticisms. Yes the enemies throw projectiles, yes there are no hit-scanners (also Doom had them too, but they were dumb with slow reaction and bad aiming) so you are supposed to be like in the past, strafing around monsters and projectiles like you are the king of the world, that feeling. But no. They did two things. The monsters are really clever, really fast jumping on you, and all the projectiles are way way faster. Which is a good thing, isn't it? Why look so bad and unrealistic (by todays standards) as the slow moving fireballs in original Doom? But look what happens here. They reduced the player speed at the same time. Yes, it looks still fast compared to COD. But just find one of the classic levels easter egg and see how much it takes to traverse areas compared to the original Doom. I wouldn't mind if the monsters were slower and dumber. But now you have both an upgrade of monsters and projectiles speed and AI, and downgrade of the speed of the main character. The running speed is like the walking speed in Doom unless of course you get the speed powerup or much later upgrade some runes to move faster after you glorykill. It makes me losing in tedious situations, for no good reason, not being able to easily manouver faster than the monsters, like the old Doom where you felt like the king of the world. And the glorykills, fine, I don't mind them as much but sometimes those cinematic animations dissorient me. The camera changes when I do a glorykill, yes I know at that point enemies can't hurt you. But when the camera comes back I have a hard time half second to realize I can still move again, while maybe fireballs where coming towards my way. Sometimes I do a glorykill to get some health and some attacks where about to hit me just after I finish the glorykill and I lose more. So they say, if you don't like them glorykills, don't do them. But when you make a monster to stutter, you have to waste one more shotgun blast (and being distracted while other enemies attack) to kill him. If you don't do the glorykill, he is revived. There is a similar thing in Brutal Doom (but not with the berserk part and the fatalities) where you kill an imp or human, and they are down on their knees, where you can blast his head with your kick or weapon and get +5 health,. sort of like the stuterring purple/orange state in Doom 4. But in this case, if you don't care about this, he just bleeds to death and dies. So,. in BD you could ignore that (and there wasn't an animation anyway, that was different than the fatality with berserk pack, but the stuttering state reminds me of the state in Doom 4 where you now have the glorykill fatalities, so it's a mix of inspirations from BD). So they could have done it like this, the enemy is stuttering (like MK fatality where the enemy is dizzy but then falls down if you don't do anything) but leave him if you want. And then the checkpoints you said it. This is especially bad in the parkour sessions (where you have to climb up high ledges especially in the tower) where you can just fall and die. While I find the climbing mechanic alone very original for FPS and some interesting level designs (I don't care if it's not Doom), the fact that they don't give you the option for Quicksave/load makes them tedious, although there are not many of them (they are very easily playable and not even 1/100th as tedious as that awful jumping puzzle section in the remade Rise of the Triad). I do like they try new things with the verticality of the levels, first time we see something on an FPS (although some people mentioned the Metroid FPS series I never played). Oh, a friend didn't like the fact that many places are like Serious Sam arena's, less the exploration and taking down individual monsters like original Doom. Certainly the game takes many inspirations from various games, Brutal Doom, Serious Sam, some Metroid FPS (was it prime?) and maybe more (the filling of infinite grenades do remind me when my brother played Destiny, very similar, and upgrades give you two grenades and faster replenish, although this concept could have been taken from previous games). But yeah, I am ranting. I don't want to compare the new Doom with oldschool Doom as much. They are similar in weapons/monsters/arcady feeling but preety much different. I know I will continue playing WADs in classic Doom, but maybe finish new Doom few more times (I need to find the secrets and maybe unlock the Nightmare mode), but then New Doom will be uninstalled while classic Doom with user maps will remain in my HD forever. I am also skeptical of Snapmap, very prefab like puzzle pieces way, not individually designing your spaces with linedefs and sectors like old Doom. It could be very restricted and maybe I won't see very unique levels as individuals spaces (but I know the scripting is more unique, I've seen some videos where they can make mobas and such).
+Optimus6128 "The running speed is like the walking speed in Doom" It's still a major improvement over Doom 3. Personally, in the original Doom, I only run when I need to. The running speed is so fast that with the character's inertia, it makes you lose precision and can cause "accidents".
Personally, I think the checkpoint save was a good call compared to a quick save. Giving players the option to set their own save point is a very powerful gameplay mechanic, to the point that it makes the players somewhat OP and is a detriment to the whole experience (a constant safety-net which the player constantly reminds themselves). When you said that killing 50 demons before dying and having to start all over wasn't fun, you could have just lowered the difficulty. Of course, this may be a design problem where the devs put the checkpoints too long in between.
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Upgrades can have a huge effect, especially rune upgrades. All upgraded to level 2: 1.Armored Offense (Enemies drop Armor shards when glory killed) 2. Intimacy is best (enemies got more dmg resistance in stagger mode, but also stagger of less dmg, so you get many glory kills) 3. Rich get richer (unlimited ammo as long as your armor doesn't drop below 75), is an insane combo =D Though Rich get richer is only obtainable in level 9, so one already did most of the game. Still it is a lot of fun to use.
I usually enjoy your reviews and agree on a lot of things, however, I disagree with the checkpoints being bad. Most importantly, you didn't even mention the fucking soundtrack? This review was really out of the ordinary, feels rushed.
How the hell do you bet this game in 5 hours!? I take about 45 minutes- 1 hour per mission. I am playing on a hard difficulty, dying here and there, and I constantly check the map to find collectibles, upgrades, and secrets. It's probably going to take me like 13 hours to beat this game.
hey GGG, would love to hear your take on the multi player of Doom. I personally loved the MP, as long as it isnt compared to Quake and UT, but i feel it's better than all cods and bf's out there.
I don't mind the checkpoints, in doom 1 and 2 the majority of people just end up abusing the quick save feature and just brute forcing their way through the campaign with trial and error. Demons ambushing you lost a lot of their impact if you quick save before, now you know their exact positions and you equip the best weapon to deal with them.
But original Doom 1 & 2 had sprinting! I haven't yet bought the game so I can't say for myself but how do those arena parts feel? I watched some earlier gameplay footage and saw this arena where the player kept jumping around for many minutes killing more and more enemies as they spawned there and I have to say it didn't feel very Doom-y. It was like something from a more modern video game with survival/horde modes. How's the rocket launcher, by the way? In the MP beta it seriously lacked any kind of physical feedback when it hit the enemy. Instead of pushing the character backwards, the characters just ran through the explosion even when the rocket itself hit them in the face. I didn't notice any kind of flight vector alteration either when I shot other players mid-air, something that was a key element in both Quake 3 Arena and Unreal Tournament. Also, while in the original Doom shooting a rocket at an enemy in close range most likely turned yourself into gibblets, in the MP beta people were shooting rockets from 1-2 meter range with almost no splash damage. Some are small gripes, I know, but also something that makes the experience less Doom and more... Well, Halo, I guess.
+HenkkaArt Big difference between DooM and Halo is on Halo the harder the difficulty the more you wait in cover for your armour to recharge yet in DooM the harder the difficulty the faster you've gotta be doing everything. Halo is incredibly boring compared to this
"Checkpoints in doom is like sacrilege" "Fighting 50 demons and then dying to have to fight them over isn't fun" Is this guy for real? Last I checked, that's exactly what the old Doom games do. You die, you restart; you aren't some super-being who just resurrects on the fly.
+Gggmanlives it really wouldn't fit though. Allow quick save and people will just inch their way through UV and Nightmare everytime they kill an enemy. if you like quick saving before you know an area is going to be hectic, why hate checkpoints anyway? that's what it does. I liked the fact I was punished, and it usually ended in me being more hectic and head on about my fights if I had to redo them.
small thing you didn't talk about, in some levels there are some hidden switches that unlock the og doom and doom 2 levels like E1M1 and tower of Babel
wow GGG you binged it in 2 sittings. impressive. glad you enjoyed it as a huge Doom fan myself...it made me the gamer i am today growing up. i got it on day one for the ps4 and being the first Doom iv ever played with a controller im really impressed with the fluidity of it all and smoothness...thought i was going to have a tough.....and interestingly the platform jumping sections reminded me of Hexen in a way. another good 90's fps. anyway hope this comment finds you well. Rip n tear..always
excellent review. People were worried the glory kills would slow the pacing of the game. If anything, it's the rune trials. At least you only need to do them once.
Loved the review! I completely agree with all your points, liked playing through it so much. Hope to see a Multiplayer/Snapmap review too. Keep it up c:
I'm glad you pointed out somewhat slacking checkpoint system. I was playing on Nightmare difficulty and died fairly often. It's so frustrating when I realize I have to go back and do all that shit again even after taking care of +30 evil dudes in the room. The most glaring issue was visible at the Lazarus Lab elevator level. Metal riff stopped playing so I was convinced that the struggle is over but I was dead wrong. Seeing two bulky red dudes ripping me apart and starting all over again was the most damning experience I ever had playing this game so far.
+chanhyun park (Inomooski) You know, you can lower the difficulty if nightmare is too much for you... There's no shame in that. I play the original Doom in ultra-violence as I like my games to be fun and not a chore. "Metal riff stopped playing so I was convinced that the struggle is over" THIS is typically the moment when you should go "uh-oh" instead of relaxing.
+Psalm696969 You're right, the game is there for you enjoy, not to suffer. But I wanted some challenges in this game and Ultra-Violence wasn't for me to say the least. I'm fairly certain I'm familiar with the franchise and my reflex is still good enough to take care of those fast moving/bullet sponge creatures. I don't look down others who play on other difficulty nor praise higher ups. That's their decision and I do respect that, because that's on their end anyway. But personally I thought checkpoint system could use some work especially in Lazarus Lab.
In short... new DOOM game is ultimate Grey Knights wet dream. xD On the more serious note - GGG I am honestly glad that the game is good because I know how much you love DOOM. And even if I am a guy who preferred Doom 3 because of it's more engaging story I will give this one a wild go - because only good daemon is dead daemon.
It was for me, but I read all the PDA's and listened to all audio tracks. Who didn't do that got mediocre story. Atmosphere helped a bit, adding creepiness to it.
+2SSSR2 "Story in a game is like a story in a porn movie. It's expected to be there, but it's not that important." John Carmack When you have a real solid gameplay, you don't need a story. Pac-Man proved this, Tetris proved this, Doom proved this.
That sentence proved that he was an idiot and shortsighted. Story is also important part of the game - right there with mechanics and graphics. It is the story that gives us characters and story that drives the game onward. I only play video games for story, to me it's like I am reading a book but have direct control over main character in it. Multiplayer is also fun but it get's old and boring really quickly - DOOM 2016 proved that.
2SSSR2 I play a game for, well, the game. I've known from personal experience, years before I've first read this quote, that a game can be equally compelling with or without a story. You might want to refrain from calling idiot and short-sighted a man who just happened to create the most famous FPS of all time that is still played 20+ years on (all without a story) while you restrict yourself from playing a whole side of gaming under the fallacious pretense that it "haz no story" - if one of the two should be an idiot, my gut says the latter. Oh, and a GOOD multiplayer never gets old - Team Fortress proved that. xD
I think a lot of people fail to appreciate how cool the lore of the new Doom is. The game doesn't overwhelm you with story and confines its narrative to data logs and environmental clues. It's all very well written and very interesting, especially the lore surrounding the origins of this Doomguy.
Agreed with the part about the online updates. I found another way to get DOOM for PC is to get a mate to download and back it up to an external file within Steam. You can then restore from backup on your end after purchasing the game online.
wait, a disc install and a 40gb update? How big is the whole thing? I miss the days when pc games were a tenth of that size. I really don't care about graphics or hi-res textures or any of that. I'm on a shared data cap, with download speeds of about 200-500kbs at best. I don't download full games much bigger than 10gb, let alone updates.
Even on Xbox I have to update and I don't have internet right now -.- I play on consoles to avoid installing shit on my shit but now it seems I have to either way so I'm just gonna go back to PC.
How is that worse than having to restart the entire mission in the original? Not only that, but you lose everything except for a pistol with 50 rounds.
@@hydroshock1853 For starters. The original 1993 retail version of Doom on DOS, allowed you to save anywhere (even on Nightmare difficulty). Moreover. It was obvious that Nightmare was meant to be cheap/unfair and over the top. And UltraViolence was the "true" hard mode. Now compare that to Doom 2016 UltraViolence mode, and it's laughably easy. Mainly because the game was developed more for gamepad controls, rather than mouse aim+ keyboard. So you bump the difficulty to Nighmare for more of a challenge, and becomes an absolute shitshow with stupid checkpoints, replaying the same demon room/spawns over and over and over again.
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I played Doom 4 on controller and a weapon wheel is used for weapon swapping. I got used to which direction to hold the stick in when switching so using multiple weapons was very smooth and fun.
It's funny to me how so many people want to draw conclusions based on the 1991 doom, but not how the old game today is BASIC AF. I had the original game back in the day, and the 2016 and 2020 version are hands-down better in every single way...
Personally I thought the RPG elements kind of gimped the game and it would have been way more fun without them. I mean weapons should have had just one alt fire mode you get from the start, your suit should have gotten the extra speed perks right off the bat (not to mention double jump) and really you start off with such a pathetically low ammo capacity it feels like a joke (20 shotgun shells? That's not even half of how you started off in the original). But still, it's pretty fun game, and the most fun I've had with a triple A FPS game in years.
+darktitan3025 That's the kinda feeling I got from what I saw in the review - upgrades are so often shoehorned in for no reason like they're scared it's too straightforward otherwise.
+Simo Vihinen I really doubt anyone is ever going to make a 100% oldschool shooter but with better graphics. They just HAVE to shoehorn in some unnecessary modern elements like RPG upgrades, scripted events or canned animations. Feels like we're going backwards in some cases.
+Simo Vihinen I felt, in this case, the upgrade system actually enhanced the gameplay. it gave the game variety without bogging you down with a clusterfuck of 30+ weapons.
jazzmaster909 I'll take your word for it, but there's no question they COULD have done just fine without it too. Still, zero menus gives you a lot of cool points... :P And if any game, I'd expect Doom 4 to offer the most braindead, simple fun out of all of them. So I can't shake the feeling it's kinda pointless, or if it really required upgrades, they just weren't focused enough on the crux.
this was one of my first Xbox One games and it was bloody fun. I’m surprised the aussie media and government here didn’t go apeshit about how violent it is like what they have been doing with fortnite
Fun fact: Dr. Hayden was supposed to be the main antagonist for Doom 3.
Mr. Doggy Meaty lol that's probably why doomguy in this game hates him lol
Not entirely, but the character was nevertheless recycled, and rewritten, from a Marine General to a Cyborg Scientist.
Wait...what?
And he's voiced by Reinhardt.
Quiet Tomato Now they can add Doomgirl (Crash) for the co-op/supporting character.
You fight goombas in Super Mario Bros.? Please warn us of upcoming spoilers before you say that. Thank you.
+Narata ikr that's like saying you play as Sonic in Sonic the hedgehog
Or like saying the princess has been kidnapped why did you tell me this!
+Narata Or like saying that the princess you're trying to save is in another castle.
+Reloaded2111 Or that Toad double flips you.
dammit stole my joke XD
In Doom 4, it is told that Doomguy basically killed demons in Hell for an eternity while travelling through different dimensions and versions of Hell while doing so. Not only does that make Doom 4 a direct sequel to Doom 64, it also means that every single fucking .wad is canon. That includes Pirate Doom, Nuts.wad and FUCKING GREZZO. id, you beautiful bastards.
HOLY SHIT
+Bucketninja So what you're saying is there's a game released this year that's actually worth buying , ... instead of bitching about the good old days when 600 x 800 was a default screen setting.
+SiliconBong 600 х 800 default? hmm, it looks like someone played his games sideways... with his display put on a side... y'know... with image turned 90 degrees... erm... nevermind.
+Bucketninja Even the Columbine one? Doom guy actually did Columbine?
+DEASTES Yes
I didn't agree with any of the complaints. This isn't '91. I am never going to complain about checkpoints when the originals didn't have them. They seemed spaced out fine, too. Right before large battles or even in between "this isn't my final form" boss sections.
The lost souls I found much easier to kill than in previous games. Especially with how accurate the assault rifle is.
Your performance is a strange anomaly as Doom 4 is easily one of the best PC releases we've had in years. Even while streaming at 1080p60fps and playing at 1440p the game didn't stutter and played very smoothly. I'm going to guess you have an amd gpu as apparently amd's side is not as lucky as nvidia's with this release but I can't confirm that.
All the other complaints were basically "this isn't a doom remake. It should be a doom remake!" They took doom, made it into a new game, while still managing to make it doom. That's called a sequel. That's how a sequel should be. They would not have made any where near as much money with a different title or enemies. Just really, really silly complaints when it comes to this.
+Jarek The Gaming Dragon The problem is not the checkpoints, the problem is the absence of quicksave.
Uhh, it's not really a sequel(even though the game hints at having tons of universes with Doomguy fighting demons making every Doom canon), more like a reboot. Doesn't make it any less kickass though.
it is a sequel, they basically tell you he's the original doomguy and he traveled to many worlds/ different universes fighting hell, and then was trapped in the sarcophagus by the demons until this alternate earth came in and brought him back. Funny enough hes B.J. Blazkowicz descendant of William from wolfenstein series.
Immense Data
I also used to think the same, but Quake champions confirms it's a sequel like Captnrex says
Jarek, I like you, but this is like the 6th time I've seen you hammer at this guy, leave the sonny jim alone.
See that, Duke Nukem? THIS is how you come back in the 21 century and still kicking ass!
Doom 3 was the first doom game in the 21st century so...
but Doon 3 was think as an "evolution" of the series, not as a comeback-to-the-roots type return
+Siriwet ‘ChocolateMan’ Corkill Doom 3 was a terrible "Doom" game,
indeed, i always consider Doom 3 as a Spin Off more than a true Sequel. Sure, in that time have some great visuals, but in gameplay was just a rip off from games like Aliens Vs Predator or System Shock 2 with more shooting elements
Nicolás Riveros I enjoyed the BFG edition of Doom 3 because you didn't have to hold a flash light for 90% of the game.
First Wolfenstein, now this. Well, hats off to Bethesda, id Software and MachineGames for treating FPS classics with the respect they truly deserve.
+Michformer You know what I wanna see? Next time, they should let Flying Wild Hog (Hard Reset, Shadow Warrior 2013) reboot Quake!
+Lugbzurg they cant flying wild hog works for devolver digital so yea besides it would be better if id actually made the mp unlike doom where they got members from 343 and infinity ward
+Lugbzurg I would prefer if id made new Quake. Flying Wild Hog could handle Blood though.
+RevanBladeZ You wanna know what I personally would like to see coming out of FWH? A reboot/remake of Shogo: Mobile Armor Division, complete with more visceral mecha action and a refined anime presentation.
Anyone hyped for DOOM Eternal?
"ID software: you did it. You glorious bastards, you actually did it."
Couldn't have said it better myself.
I hope Quake gets a sequel now!
+SegaCDUniverse Me too
+SegaCDUniverse If you're talking about Quake 1, I'm right here with you. I've always regretted that they changed the game universe for the "sequels". The atmosphere in Quake 2 & 4 feels more like Doom to me. Have you tried playing Quake in DarkPlaces with HD textures and models, normal mapping, dynamic lights and new particle effects? It gives the game a whole new second life. Also, you should see what the community does now with the modern source ports. Maps like Honey or Something Wicked will floor you.
+Psalm696969 No I'll have to check it out, thanks. I think I used to play one and two. =) Been a long while!
SegaCDUniverse
You won't regret it. You'll need a powerful rig if you wanna enjoy top graphical quality. If you don't feel like going through the hassle of installing dozens of mods by yourself, check out the Epsilon Build: it does pretty much all of it for you. Just drop your .pak files from the original games into the Epsilon/id1 folder and you're good to go, you don't even need a regular Quake install!
Works with the mission packs and a few mods, too. For the maps I mentioned earlier, though, you'll probably need a less heavily modified engine. Try a "dry" version of DarkPlaces, that is one without all the tweaks of the Epsilon build, or QuakeSpasm. The latter will be needed for maps that use Quoth content (another mod that adds new lovecraftian monsters and features), like Red777.
Note that the Epsilon build doesn't have hi-poly models for all monsters. The most common ones, like the ogre or the marines, still have low-poly models. You may want to change that but you'll really need a high-end up-to-date system to run the game smoothly with these, especially in the mission packs. ATTENTION: if you replace some models with more detailed ones, you'll need the appropriate textures for them or you'll likely end up with invisible monsters.
Also, for legal reasons you can't pack the original music with any online distribution (that's why the GOG version has none), but you can easily google an .ogg pack of Nine Inch Nails' soundtrack. XOlve's replacement is very good in its own way and fits the game quite fine, so you should play at least one full episode with it, but personally I can't imagine playing the original game without NIN's creepy dark ambient tracks.
In any case, though Epsilon does ease up the process, you'll probably still need to do some manual tweaking in not-quite-user-friendly options menus, if only to get the lighting to work properly (a good spot to check this is the last turn in E1M2's shooting spikes corridor - if it's overly lit to the point of blinding your character, then something's definitely wrong). But it's worth it nonetheless.
www.moddb.com/mods/quake-epsilon-build
A few useful links:
icculus.org/twilight/darkplaces/
DarkPlaces homepage, for latest builds
www.moddb.com/engines/darkplaces-engine
DarkPlaces ModDB page, for extra content and add-ons
quakespasm.sourceforge.net/
QuakeSpasm homepage. Navigation is a bit "personalized" but you'll figure it out anyway.
www.quaddicted.com/
Quaddicted, the reference custom map repository
www.quaddicted.com/reviews/aopfm_v2.html
Abyss of Pandemonium, the unreleased official Mission Pack #3
quakeone.com/forums/quake-mod-releases/works-progress/11588-hd-textures-sp-maps.html
HD textures for the best single player custom maps, including links to the maps themselves.
quakeone.com/forums/quake-talk/single-player/6775-full-version-dismal-obliette.html
Full version of E2M6 including the lost entrance. You might want to replace the original E2M6 with this one (you'll need to rename it) to play it within the flow of the single player campaign, as it's too tough to start it from scratch without cheating: you won't have enough shotgun ammo and no RL/GL to blow these zombies up. Be sure to scroll down the thread to get the RTlights file to use with this version of the map.
quakeone.com/forums/quake-help/general-help/10727-definitive-hd-replacement-content-list.html
More HD content, some included in Epsilon, some not
quakeone.com/forums/quake-mod-releases/finished-works/6306-ruohis-models.html
New hi-poly models
quakeone.com/forums/quake-help/quake-clients/8336-tut-add-particle-effects-models-sounds-into-quake-via-ent-files-darkplaces-2.html#post129831
Tutorial thread in case you feel like dabbling into effect tweaking yourself
+Jonas King Yeah, Shambler's Castle is on my to-do list since I saw its monsters' models and textures imported in Quake. I do like the Stroggos side of Quake but much like Doom 3, I wish they had made it into a different franchise.
This game is pure testosterone.
That’s why it’s awesome
Mick Gordon doesn't actually compose music, he's a scientist who discovered the sound of testosterone.
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. would be acetylcholine.
May we also bring to attention that the new Doomguy gives no shits about anything the NPCs have to say
+TheGrayMysterious When he looked at the poor dead person in the elevator to the surface of Mars, he just lost it. I love that. I felt his anger.
Alkaiser My favorite par was when Samuel Hayden is telling Doomguy to carefully remove the Argent whatsis so it can be preserved, and he just smashes it in with his foot.
I disagree on it not feeling like Doom and the double jumping, I haven't seen my friends (with varying quality PC's) have fps issues at recommended settings so it doesn't seem too prevalent (I'm running flawless).
But on the double jumping, there was some rudimentary sprint based platforming in the old game , due to vertical limits of the old Doom game (there was also jumping bits in Doom 3), this was the farthest it could go. It seems natural with the tech we have now, and the move toward jumping seen in later, more tech advanced Id games makes the inclusion of jump and ledge grabbing platforming seem like a natural addition. To me it's one of those "if they were able to do it in 1993 they would have" kind of feelings.
Does that make sense GG?
It did made sense
+FrankDaTank1218
I think old games were often about "let's see what this engine can be made to do" and newer ones a bit more about "which kinda stuff do we want to include" without too much creativity being manifested. Back in Doom, even very simple platforming represented something that kinda hadn't been done before in the genre (well there was RotT I suppose) and so it was kinda cooler for that reason. A whole level could be based largely on a gimmick like Doom 2's The Chasm or Barrels o' Fun, because they could. So compared to something like that, based on what I saw in this review, I doubt there's a lot that could be called new now in the D4 designs. There was Prey even...
So yeah if the original id could have done it in '93 they might well have, but they would have done a lot more cool stuff as well. Again, I'm basing this just on the review and I don't know how it actually plays. Furthermore in Doom the speed was higher so I guess platforming would have been more exciting for that reason too. Lastly, if you're used to the Quake titles, your bar for what constitutes fun movement is gonna be way higher than just double jumping up platforms.
+FrankDaTank1218 Totally agree.
I'm not sure I understand your comment about wishing the game had a different name/wasn't marketed as a DOOM reboot, especially since you followed that um immediately by saying it was everything you could want from a DOOM game. If it does the franchise justice, then what is the issue with them making use of the franchise's name? After all, it's been 23 years since DOOM first came out, and Id have been struggling to get their feet back in the game for over a decade at this point: it makes sense for them to hail back to their glory days to try and grab business, and if it is as good as everyone seems to say, then they've shown that utilizing that old design sense was the most positive route they could have taken.
+Guerilla Grue Plays I agree it does seem to be a contradiction. But if it wasn't called Doom then at least we'd get less of the idiots complaining it sucks because "it's not real Doom".
it is a real doom though ^^
I was thinking the same thing, (Man i'm late to the party on this one). Seems like he's paying lip service to nutty video game purists who would claim anything other than a carbon copy of a 20 year old game is unworthy of using the franchise branding.
@@What3v3a Indeed purity spiraling is awful.
and if not for this reboot, this masterpiece of a sequel wouldn't have come to us
This game is fucking glorious, best FPS released in years
opinion
best fps since call of duty ghosts
Donald Trumpet No fucking shit. He never said it was a fact.
Best game of the century in my opinion.
ShadowWarrior242 So...best game ever.
"...had Bethesda made this as a throwback to old school FPS instead of calling it Doom, it would have garnered the same attention."
Absolutely, 100% no way do I believe this.
Yeah I disagree with that one!
This is the first true FPS we've had in Years. Actual lvl Exploration Beyond Keycard Hunts !!!!
*****
It was Good but it still suffered from linear lvl design in Too many places and a Horribal ammo health and armor collection system.
Zer0dog New colossus sucked
i love playing late at night, lights off, home alone, dick out, etc.
truly a badass game!
Actually.. Doom 1 and 2 do have sprint... well.. "run"
I absolutely love the game, the map design in particular. Well. that and the combat which is pretty damn perfect
+KrazyKain Yea, it's not like you can't walk in these games :D
I disagree with the idea that this game should have been its own IP. Doom needed a comeback. Since I was little I've been waiting for this game. Story time;
My exposure to Doom was the movie. When I was a kid I saw it and enjoyed it. (Now not so much) I saw the special features and saw there where games that the movie was based on and I immediately wanted to play them. I wouldn't play them until summer of 2007. That's when I finally got my hands on Doom 3 Ultimate Edition and that summer, all I played was Doom 3 and the classics.
As the years went on my want for a Doom 4 increased and then waned as nothing seemed concrete. The fact that the artwork of the game and rumors that it was like Call of Duty, made me not even want the game. And then nothing but silence. No news no info nothing. After playing through RAGE my want for Doom vanished much like the game. All I had was Doom 3 and the classics.
Suddenly E3 2013, a teaser showing a Cyber-Demon and the title DOOM show up. Hope was regained. The more I heard about this Doom the more excited I got.
Then E3 2015. Gameplay trailers, footage concrete evidence that DOOM was indeed back. My hype went to overdrive. For a whole year I've anticipated this game for a whole year and no amount of bullshit ass steam reviews were gonna stop me from getting this game.
Now we are in the present and I LOVE THIS GAME. Much like Splatoon it is that breath of fresh air on a stale genre that is overcrowded with "realistic military shooters"
DOOM is back and I can now lay years of anticipation to rest.
+Sebastian Cintron I still remember when I was 5 years old in the 90s and I had to go in Dos to play Doom by typing "C:/games/doom2" or something like that. I've been waiting a while too :P
DooM's comeback was Brutal DooM, and then Project Britality.
Azzalack Official comeback not mod
Sebastian Cintron How does an "official" comeback that involves none of the original developers any different an "unofficial" mod that involves none of the original developers, especially given that the "official" comeback was made specifically to cash-in on said "unofficial" mod, Brutal DooM, and furthermore Project Brutality?
PB/BD has thousands more levels, can have hundreds of more enemies that are both faster and smarter than those in the new game, and has several more weapons with alternate modes and attacks. New DooM has forge mode, only has levels built from damn prefabs, is not able to be modded, and is a slowed-down console-friendly version of PB/BD. The PC version is a DAMN PORT. Let that sink in, the sequel to one of the PC's flagship franchises that is based on a mod that is nigh-unplayable on consoles and which plays on one of the most customizable pc-centric engines out there is a damn console port.
Azzalack Its still a damn good game and only PC plebians hate on it.
"at times this doesn't feel like a Doom game"
Well that aged well
I didn't get that, either...
Aged just like a fresh glass of...
milk
@@largeamountsofscreaming4771 he's right tho? If feels more like an action Metroid prime then doom
what do you mean?
it really has nothing in common with Doom 1,2.
If even Gggman think it's good then it must be something special :O
Excellent review as always, glad to see you got this uploaded so quick!
@@DevixianTheOriginal trust me I've noticed haha, comments I left like years n years ago lmao
Sprinting was a thing in the original doom though...
+TheAviroGamer no it wasn't you can set it to auto run and doom guy never got tired.
+TheAviroGamer autorun =/= sprinting
+TheAviroGamer "Sprinting" in classic Doom is pretty much just the normal movement speed though.
Flar
I'm not talking about what people do in speed runs, bro. The levels didn't generally require platforming to finish.
+Flar I doubt it, Quake 4 was actually a BAD game. This is very enjoyable.
Dude its a game about slaughtering hell demons with big fucking guns. How could it not be a doom game.
I just turned off my adblock and clicked the ad to support you! great review as always "Sunny Jim Army"
+Wouter van der Put I do the same for this guy too, my fav reviewer and fellow aussie
+Wouter van der Put I thought it's "Sonny Jim"?
+Wouter van der Put You can whitelist his entire channel so you don't have to worry about disabling it.
will do!
+Wouter van der Put that's cool of you but can we please not start calling ggg's subs the 'sonny jim army'...?
coming back to watch this now, Doom 2016 looks so slow after Eternal
You know I kind of feel less stressed out and angry when I play doom. It’s like releasing all your pent up rage and stress at the gym, but for when I don’t have the time to actually go work out. Really just mindless, after work or school fun without any of the bullshit of modern AAA games 10/10👍
I love how you dislike the platforming sections here, yet praise it in DOOM Eternal.
Because in doom eternal you wont get loading screen when you fail
*Look at how they massacred my boy*
- Wolfenstein
@@weaponizedautism3269 huh? Thats one of the things he said he dislikes about the platforming
@@weaponizedautism3269 Because Doom Eternals game engine is more optimized now thus the loading screen are fast and revivals are instant because of 1ups.
DooM (2016) is my new favourite game... Endless fun!
I loved the entire campaign
i can't afford it yet...
AMD Master Race keep earning de cash den!?
I try but I have been waiting for 1 month for it so in around 7 days can't wait
AMD Master Race its great fun
A day downloading the rest he says... It'll take me until next weekend....
+12me91 what internet do you have lol, I have 100 mpbs, it took me 45 mins to download.
SuperHns 2mbps
+SuperHns Come live in a third world country like I do... Australia
+SuperHns 45min? WTF! And I thought my 4mb line was fast..
Johan Gerber yeah my steam usually downloads at 11/13 mb per sec, but this time with Doom there were a lot of slow moments and even moments it was stuck wit 0 kbps/sec.
Guess it was really crowded that day on steam when DOOM was released.
What perplexes me about Doom is how they marketed everything people would hate about it like the lackluster multiplayer and never the meat of the game itself, the thing people craved for. I'm glad the actual game is good, however, I was worried for a long time they would fuck it up. May pick it up soon.
+Nazrat84 Bethesda did a remarkably poor job of marketing the game. All they had to do was just show the actual game footage instead of that crappy E3 demo with the overlong chainsaw animations and the slow walking speed.
Clearly the marketing team didn't give a toss about the substance of the game and just looked at some demographic pie charts or something to decide how they should approach things.
It's hard to believe that this game is already 5 years old.
Now 7 ! And still just as good !
Haven't had any slowdown on my rig and having a blast with the game.
bro what are you smoking, you start talking about how it shouldn't be a doom game and then two seconds later start praising it for being doom
This was the review I was waiting for. If it can please your sullen mug, then I'm sold.
I can’t believe you didn’t talk about the music, it’s literally the best part
PC Gamers: complains about checkpoints.
Console Gamers: Welcome to our world.
i cant wait for the modders to remake doom 1 / 2 on this..
the original maps or hidden in each level, I have only found E1M2 tho.
+The Hunter Yeah but they're not remade, they're the exact same old maps with the same old textures that we already have in the original, so they're completely pointless. Plus from the footage I've seen, they completely forgot to implement the lighting. I mean the E1M2 maze in fullbright? Come on! Way to kill the mood.
+Psalm696969 dude there Easter eggs
The Hunter
It's no reason to botch them.
Apparently mod tools wont be released.
This game is freaking awesome. Period.
If you only heard the footage instead of watching the video you would've thought that gggman had reviewed a ruben sandwich.
The rune trials were honestly not that bad. I only ever had to redo them maybe once or twice max.
I'm glad the campaign mode turned out to be something amazing. More importantly, I'm glad that people are now going back and playing the old games.
Now all that is left is a Quake and Hexen reboot.
+RacerC45 holy shit yes, a Hexen reboot with this quality would be awesome
can you do morrowind
+Damon 9191 Sure.
(: ya
+Gggmanlives THANKS OMG!
+Gggmanlives Rad.
+Gggmanlives I see you haven't done Underhell (Half-Life 2 Mod) yet. Might be worth a look after the disappointment of They Hunder Again ;) www.moddb.com/mods/underhell
His content is so high quality that I often forget that he only has 40 thousand subscribers.
Will SOMEBODY PLEASE use this engine and remake Clive Barker's Undying? Thank You!!!
Even Jericho
The remark about them not naming it doom and instead making this game a homage to Old School shooters, I have to respectfully disagree on that because then we wouldn't be getting Doom Eternal would we?
I'm kind of surprised that the game industry hasn't started using Blu-ray as the default format for PC because both of the consoles Xbox and PS4 use Blu-ray not DVD
2016 was 5 years ago...
I feel old
Good review mate. I am glad that they haven't gone and ruined a beloved franchise such as Doom. I can always rely on ggman. You even released this vid before the so called tog dogs at ign.
+quarter wog IGN is total joke IMHO
+Salokin Sekwah Your honest opinion is 100% right. Btw, nice name, kinda roles off the tongue.
The One Free Man Gosh i'm flattered, amazing what reversing your name can do!
Salokin Sekwah Whoa, i didnt even know it was a reversed name, holy crap
The One Free Man No probs Nam eerf eno eht, see, new language!
For everyone having performance problems - try ti turn "chromatic aberration" off. That was the magic key for me. Everything maxed out @steady 60fps. I've been playing for 16 hours and i'm not done yet with singleplayer. I immediately turned Waypoints, compass and buttonindications off for the best experience. God I love this game! It's so much fun!
Chromatic aberration is usually pointless and ugly anyways. Usually the same story with motion blur, seeing as how it eats up processing power.
1:20
Whoa, that Revenant jump was pretty smooth. I've heard some other people saying that the AI is quite good, well, considering they're mostly demons.
Who's that handsome devil there 0:15
+MattoMatick That actually is you.
It's interesting to see your take on the new Doom.
I was very skeptical before, so I wasn't expected to like it as much but I love it as a game. It's great compared to modern FPS, a step forward, although I do have some criticisms.
Yes the enemies throw projectiles, yes there are no hit-scanners (also Doom had them too, but they were dumb with slow reaction and bad aiming) so you are supposed to be like in the past, strafing around monsters and projectiles like you are the king of the world, that feeling. But no. They did two things. The monsters are really clever, really fast jumping on you, and all the projectiles are way way faster. Which is a good thing, isn't it? Why look so bad and unrealistic (by todays standards) as the slow moving fireballs in original Doom? But look what happens here. They reduced the player speed at the same time. Yes, it looks still fast compared to COD. But just find one of the classic levels easter egg and see how much it takes to traverse areas compared to the original Doom. I wouldn't mind if the monsters were slower and dumber. But now you have both an upgrade of monsters and projectiles speed and AI, and downgrade of the speed of the main character. The running speed is like the walking speed in Doom unless of course you get the speed powerup or much later upgrade some runes to move faster after you glorykill. It makes me losing in tedious situations, for no good reason, not being able to easily manouver faster than the monsters, like the old Doom where you felt like the king of the world.
And the glorykills, fine, I don't mind them as much but sometimes those cinematic animations dissorient me. The camera changes when I do a glorykill, yes I know at that point enemies can't hurt you. But when the camera comes back I have a hard time half second to realize I can still move again, while maybe fireballs where coming towards my way. Sometimes I do a glorykill to get some health and some attacks where about to hit me just after I finish the glorykill and I lose more. So they say, if you don't like them glorykills, don't do them. But when you make a monster to stutter, you have to waste one more shotgun blast (and being distracted while other enemies attack) to kill him. If you don't do the glorykill, he is revived. There is a similar thing in Brutal Doom (but not with the berserk part and the fatalities) where you kill an imp or human, and they are down on their knees, where you can blast his head with your kick or weapon and get +5 health,. sort of like the stuterring purple/orange state in Doom 4. But in this case, if you don't care about this, he just bleeds to death and dies. So,. in BD you could ignore that (and there wasn't an animation anyway, that was different than the fatality with berserk pack, but the stuttering state reminds me of the state in Doom 4 where you now have the glorykill fatalities, so it's a mix of inspirations from BD). So they could have done it like this, the enemy is stuttering (like MK fatality where the enemy is dizzy but then falls down if you don't do anything) but leave him if you want.
And then the checkpoints you said it. This is especially bad in the parkour sessions (where you have to climb up high ledges especially in the tower) where you can just fall and die. While I find the climbing mechanic alone very original for FPS and some interesting level designs (I don't care if it's not Doom), the fact that they don't give you the option for Quicksave/load makes them tedious, although there are not many of them (they are very easily playable and not even 1/100th as tedious as that awful jumping puzzle section in the remade Rise of the Triad). I do like they try new things with the verticality of the levels, first time we see something on an FPS (although some people mentioned the Metroid FPS series I never played). Oh, a friend didn't like the fact that many places are like Serious Sam arena's, less the exploration and taking down individual monsters like original Doom. Certainly the game takes many inspirations from various games, Brutal Doom, Serious Sam, some Metroid FPS (was it prime?) and maybe more (the filling of infinite grenades do remind me when my brother played Destiny, very similar, and upgrades give you two grenades and faster replenish, although this concept could have been taken from previous games).
But yeah, I am ranting. I don't want to compare the new Doom with oldschool Doom as much. They are similar in weapons/monsters/arcady feeling but preety much different. I know I will continue playing WADs in classic Doom, but maybe finish new Doom few more times (I need to find the secrets and maybe unlock the Nightmare mode), but then New Doom will be uninstalled while classic Doom with user maps will remain in my HD forever. I am also skeptical of Snapmap, very prefab like puzzle pieces way, not individually designing your spaces with linedefs and sectors like old Doom. It could be very restricted and maybe I won't see very unique levels as individuals spaces (but I know the scripting is more unique, I've seen some videos where they can make mobas and such).
+Optimus6128 "The running speed is like the walking speed in Doom" It's still a major improvement over Doom 3. Personally, in the original Doom, I only run when I need to. The running speed is so fast that with the character's inertia, it makes you lose precision and can cause "accidents".
DOOM: You're trapped in hell with demons.
DOOM (2016): Demons are trapped with you.
Doom should be changed to doom 3
@@JalenSoeung No.
Its crazy how good Doom 4 was...only for Eternal to come along and just revolutionise the genre!
Personally, I think the checkpoint save was a good call compared to a quick save.
Giving players the option to set their own save point is a very powerful gameplay mechanic, to the point that it makes the players somewhat OP and is a detriment to the whole experience (a constant safety-net which the player constantly reminds themselves).
When you said that killing 50 demons before dying and having to start all over wasn't fun, you could have just lowered the difficulty. Of course, this may be a design problem where the devs put the checkpoints too long in between.
It is bizarre to me that he ever said that this didn't feel like doom
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Upgrades can have a huge effect, especially rune upgrades. All upgraded to level 2: 1.Armored Offense (Enemies drop Armor shards when glory killed) 2. Intimacy is best (enemies got more dmg resistance in stagger mode, but also stagger of less dmg, so you get many glory kills) 3. Rich get richer (unlimited ammo as long as your armor doesn't drop below 75), is an insane combo =D Though Rich get richer is only obtainable in level 9, so one already did most of the game. Still it is a lot of fun to use.
I wish the menu system looked more like classic doom with the skull cursor. This would've helped.
I usually enjoy your reviews and agree on a lot of things, however, I disagree with the checkpoints being bad.
Most importantly, you didn't even mention the fucking soundtrack? This review was really out of the ordinary, feels rushed.
100 % agree! game rocks
How the hell do you bet this game in 5 hours!? I take about 45 minutes- 1 hour per mission. I am playing on a hard difficulty, dying here and there, and I constantly check the map to find collectibles, upgrades, and secrets. It's probably going to take me like 13 hours to beat this game.
+Marcos Lopez No it was 8+ hours. 5 hours, then 3 the next sitting.
After playing the game I think my Gdude was a bit harsh in this review. I kinda feel his newer videos have more depth.
This review is for Doom 4 / newDoom / Doom 2016. Video title needs fixing.
hey GGG, would love to hear your take on the multi player of Doom. I personally loved the MP, as long as it isnt compared to Quake and UT, but i feel it's better than all cods and bf's out there.
+Prashanna Ss
>loved the multiplayer
fuck off normie
I don't mind the checkpoints, in doom 1 and 2 the majority of people just end up abusing the quick save feature and just brute forcing their way through the campaign with trial and error. Demons ambushing you lost a lot of their impact if you quick save before, now you know their exact positions and you equip the best weapon to deal with them.
May I suggest reviewing the Marathon series in the future? They're great old shooters that many have forgotten about!
But original Doom 1 & 2 had sprinting! I haven't yet bought the game so I can't say for myself but how do those arena parts feel? I watched some earlier gameplay footage and saw this arena where the player kept jumping around for many minutes killing more and more enemies as they spawned there and I have to say it didn't feel very Doom-y. It was like something from a more modern video game with survival/horde modes. How's the rocket launcher, by the way? In the MP beta it seriously lacked any kind of physical feedback when it hit the enemy. Instead of pushing the character backwards, the characters just ran through the explosion even when the rocket itself hit them in the face. I didn't notice any kind of flight vector alteration either when I shot other players mid-air, something that was a key element in both Quake 3 Arena and Unreal Tournament. Also, while in the original Doom shooting a rocket at an enemy in close range most likely turned yourself into gibblets, in the MP beta people were shooting rockets from 1-2 meter range with almost no splash damage.
Some are small gripes, I know, but also something that makes the experience less Doom and more... Well, Halo, I guess.
+HenkkaArt Big difference between DooM and Halo is on Halo the harder the difficulty the more you wait in cover for your armour to recharge yet in DooM the harder the difficulty the faster you've gotta be doing everything. Halo is incredibly boring compared to this
+HenkkaArt autorun =/= sprinting
+David Queener or capslock, capslock works too
Why the fuck would you spoiler super mario brothers? :C
+Synaris Spoiler is the noun, spoil is the verb.
Psalm696969 Cool bruh.
"Checkpoints in doom is like sacrilege"
"Fighting 50 demons and then dying to have to fight them over isn't fun"
Is this guy for real?
Last I checked, that's exactly what the old Doom games do.
You die, you restart; you aren't some super-being who just resurrects on the fly.
+MrMuffinTastic You're aware classic Doom has manual saving? That is my point, friend.
Spamming quick-save in Doom is just as disgraceful as autosaves/checkpoints.
MrMuffinTastic
Who said anything about spamming them? The option would be nice is all.
+Gggmanlives it really wouldn't fit though. Allow quick save and people will just inch their way through UV and Nightmare everytime they kill an enemy. if you like quick saving before you know an area is going to be hectic, why hate checkpoints anyway? that's what it does. I liked the fact I was punished, and it usually ended in me being more hectic and head on about my fights if I had to redo them.
small thing you didn't talk about, in some levels there are some hidden switches that unlock the og doom and doom 2 levels like E1M1 and tower
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the statement to not call it DOOM din't age very well :D
God damn it, do you want me to spend money on another game? I already have bought 4 games this month :/...Brb visiting steam store...
wow GGG you binged it in 2 sittings. impressive. glad you enjoyed it as a huge Doom fan myself...it made me the gamer i am today growing up. i got it on day one for the ps4 and being the first Doom iv ever played with a controller im really impressed with the fluidity of it all and smoothness...thought i was going to have a tough.....and interestingly the platform jumping sections reminded me of Hexen in a way. another good 90's fps. anyway hope this comment finds you well. Rip n tear..always
excellent review. People were worried the glory kills would slow the pacing of the game. If anything, it's the rune trials. At least you only need to do them once.
Great review, great game, great reboot.
And yeah i also started immidiately with Ultra-Violence, and the checkpoints are bad unfortunately :-/
8 hours? Christ man did you find any secrets? Took me 10-15 hrs on hurt me plenty and Q3 is a game I currently have installed.
I've been playing this on the Xbox for about 12 hrs, and it feels very nice on a controller. Swapping weapons is nice and breezy.
Loved the review! I completely agree with all your points, liked playing through it so much.
Hope to see a Multiplayer/Snapmap review too. Keep it up c:
Doom: What Duke Nukem Forever should have been.
I finished it yesterday and agree, Doom 4 is awesome.
Can't believe he's not using the option to have the gun in the Center of the screen
I'm glad you pointed out somewhat slacking checkpoint system. I was playing on Nightmare difficulty and died fairly often. It's so frustrating when I realize I have to go back and do all that shit again even after taking care of +30 evil dudes in the room. The most glaring issue was visible at the Lazarus Lab elevator level. Metal riff stopped playing so I was convinced that the struggle is over but I was dead wrong. Seeing two bulky red dudes ripping me apart and starting all over again was the most damning experience I ever had playing this game so far.
+chanhyun park (Inomooski) You know, you can lower the difficulty if nightmare is too much for you... There's no shame in that. I play the original Doom in ultra-violence as I like my games to be fun and not a chore.
"Metal riff stopped playing so I was convinced that the struggle is over" THIS is typically the moment when you should go "uh-oh" instead of relaxing.
+Psalm696969 You're right, the game is there for you enjoy, not to suffer. But I wanted some challenges in this game and Ultra-Violence wasn't for me to say the least. I'm fairly certain I'm familiar with the franchise and my reflex is still good enough to take care of those fast moving/bullet sponge creatures. I don't look down others who play on other difficulty nor praise higher ups. That's their decision and I do respect that, because that's on their end anyway. But personally I thought checkpoint system could use some work especially in Lazarus Lab.
chanhyun park
Here's hoping for a patch implementing quicksaves.
IMO2 about Bethesda! As a fan of Fallout 1 & 2, Bethesda just KILLED ME with what they did with the series.:( RIP Fallout 1997-2003.
I think they made it better lol
In short... new DOOM game is ultimate Grey Knights wet dream. xD
On the more serious note - GGG I am honestly glad that the game is good because I know how much you love DOOM. And even if I am a guy who preferred Doom 3 because of it's more engaging story I will give this one a wild go - because only good daemon is dead daemon.
doom 3 had an engaging story? if you say so friend.
It was for me, but I read all the PDA's and listened to all audio tracks.
Who didn't do that got mediocre story.
Atmosphere helped a bit, adding creepiness to it.
+2SSSR2 "Story in a game is like a story in a porn movie. It's expected to be there, but it's not that important." John Carmack
When you have a real solid gameplay, you don't need a story. Pac-Man proved this, Tetris proved this, Doom proved this.
That sentence proved that he was an idiot and shortsighted.
Story is also important part of the game - right there with mechanics and graphics. It is the story that gives us characters and story that drives the game onward.
I only play video games for story, to me it's like I am reading a book but have direct control over main character in it. Multiplayer is also fun but it get's old and boring really quickly - DOOM 2016 proved that.
2SSSR2
I play a game for, well, the game. I've known from personal experience, years before I've first read this quote, that a game can be equally compelling with or without a story.
You might want to refrain from calling idiot and short-sighted a man who just happened to create the most famous FPS of all time that is still played 20+ years on (all without a story) while you restrict yourself from playing a whole side of gaming under the fallacious pretense that it "haz no story" - if one of the two should be an idiot, my gut says the latter.
Oh, and a GOOD multiplayer never gets old - Team Fortress proved that. xD
I think a lot of people fail to appreciate how cool the lore of the new Doom is. The game doesn't overwhelm you with story and confines its narrative to data logs and environmental clues. It's all very well written and very interesting, especially the lore surrounding the origins of this Doomguy.
Agreed with the part about the online updates. I found another way to get DOOM for PC is to get a mate to download and back it up to an external file within Steam. You can then restore from backup on your end after purchasing the game online.
wait, a disc install and a 40gb update? How big is the whole thing? I miss the days when pc games were a tenth of that size. I really don't care about graphics or hi-res textures or any of that. I'm on a shared data cap, with download speeds of about 200-500kbs at best. I don't download full games much bigger than 10gb, let alone updates.
+Michael Robertson
50 gigs or so, due to megatexture bullshit. Every AAA game these days has it.
+Aussie Noonga By "every AAA game" do you mean like, 5 or 6 (most of which were decidedly not AAA, like Wolfenstein:TNO or Quake Wars)?
Even on Xbox I have to update and I don't have internet right now -.- I play on consoles to avoid installing shit on my shit but now it seems I have to either way so I'm just gonna go back to PC.
Checkpoints ruin this game so much. Especially on nightmare difficulty.
How is that worse than having to restart the entire mission in the original? Not only that, but you lose everything except for a pistol with 50 rounds.
@@hydroshock1853 For starters. The original 1993 retail version of Doom on DOS, allowed you to save anywhere (even on Nightmare difficulty). Moreover. It was obvious that Nightmare was meant to be cheap/unfair and over the top. And UltraViolence was the "true" hard mode. Now compare that to Doom 2016 UltraViolence mode, and it's laughably easy. Mainly because the game was developed more for gamepad controls, rather than mouse aim+ keyboard. So you bump the difficulty to Nighmare for more of a challenge, and becomes an absolute shitshow with stupid checkpoints, replaying the same demon room/spawns over and over and over again.
@@Johnnybomb1 Wow I forgot all about the save feature. Thanks for that
And the sound track!!! and how it sync to the situation.. .So EPIC!!! It should be mentioned in the reviews
I discovered your channel like 2 weeks ago, and I spent the entire time watching all of your videos. You are amazing and I can't believe that you don't have a shit ton of followers.
I love you man. Keep up the excellent work! And awesome video/review btw. You deserve it.
+Daniel Fregoso Thanks!
r u ever gonna review Project Brutality?
+Timonvile It's the best fucking shooter I have ever played.
There is your review.
it feels like Doom
I played Doom 4 on controller and a weapon wheel is used for weapon swapping. I got used to which direction to hold the stick in when switching so using multiple weapons was very smooth and fun.
It's funny to me how so many people want to draw conclusions based on the 1991 doom, but not how the old game today is BASIC AF. I had the original game back in the day, and the 2016 and 2020 version are hands-down better in every single way...
I'll pick this up in six months when gmg or cdkeys is selling keys for $10
right...
That's very interesting thank you for telling us this we care thanks bye
+GamerRespawned
you do care very much, thats why you took the time to answer
+TragicMaster Took about 4 seconds to respond. How much Care Percentage does that represent?
i VERY much care to see how DOOM is gonna be 10 bucks in six months...
Personally I thought the RPG elements kind of gimped the game and it would have been way more fun without them. I mean weapons should have had just one alt fire mode you get from the start, your suit should have gotten the extra speed perks right off the bat (not to mention double jump) and really you start off with such a pathetically low ammo capacity it feels like a joke (20 shotgun shells? That's not even half of how you started off in the original).
But still, it's pretty fun game, and the most fun I've had with a triple A FPS game in years.
+darktitan3025 That's the kinda feeling I got from what I saw in the review - upgrades are so often shoehorned in for no reason like they're scared it's too straightforward otherwise.
+Simo Vihinen I really doubt anyone is ever going to make a 100% oldschool shooter but with better graphics. They just HAVE to shoehorn in some unnecessary modern elements like RPG upgrades, scripted events or canned animations. Feels like we're going backwards in some cases.
+Simo Vihinen I felt, in this case, the upgrade system actually enhanced the gameplay. it gave the game variety without bogging you down with a clusterfuck of 30+ weapons.
jazzmaster909
I'll take your word for it, but there's no question they COULD have done just fine without it too.
Still, zero menus gives you a lot of cool points... :P And if any game, I'd expect Doom 4 to offer the most braindead, simple fun out of all of them. So I can't shake the feeling it's kinda pointless, or if it really required upgrades, they just weren't focused enough on the crux.
Simo Vihinen It was the only logical step fro doom to go with out it being "A copy paste of the original" (people hate CoD for being copy paste).
this was one of my first Xbox One games and it was bloody fun. I’m surprised the aussie media and government here didn’t go apeshit about how violent it is like what they have been doing with fortnite
That was a very interesting and creative analogy to Rueben sandwiches