@@franciscoferod1998 Test something that new iPad Pro works In the old version of keyboard case with modifications because the smart connection is the same
QA validates assembly to specifications. The engineers designed it this way, so it would pass QA. I guess Boeing and you have something in common: you have no idea what QA is.
Quite a few people are rushing in to say there’s no issue at all and you have to poke hard or punch the iPad like a punching bag to get this to happen. Meanwhile, the video shows it repeatedly rocking with relatively light pressure. Which is true??? Well, I’m sitting here typing this on my new M4 iPad Pro 13 with the Magic Keyboard. I can honestly say both are amazing, but… the issue is real. It’s true that you can avoid the rocking by using light, gentle pressure, or keeping one hand on the Magic Keyboard or behind the iPad or by keeping it a more upright position (closer to 90 degrees). But putting it in the most comfortable viewing angle for me and applying just a little too much pressure without using your other hand to stabilize and IT WILL ROCK backwards causing the front of the keyboard to lift a bit. With strong hands, a multi-touch gesture in particular could easily generate sufficient force. BTW, the Magic Keyboard for iPad 13 inch is $349, not $300 so it stings even a bit more to have to be careful to avoid this flaw. They could have made the hinge flush. I’m still within the return period, so considering my options from little rubber feet to returning.
@@mamaboy1121 People deciding what tools they want to bring into their lives have every right to consider all opinions and to nitpick about details-especially when spending this much money LOL. So for me, even though the issue is real, it ended up not being a big enough deal to overcome all the things I really like about this new Magic Keyboard. But I understand people who feel it's a deal breaker as well as those who think it's a nothingburger. That's life! Yes, Apple is obviously making money despite this issue. But that's a different topic IMO.
@@MikeG1111_ I understand what you're saying, but there are too many options out there if you feel like this is an issue. I would go to a Ferrari dealership and complain about there cars if Lexus has better options. As I said, Apple will continue being Apple with or without your dollar.
If Steve Jobs would have tried this out before production, he would’ve thrown it out a window and say “this is shit, start over”. He was an ass but he knew what a good product was.
@@eldritchbeauty he literally threw the first iPod into a fish tank, saw bubbles come out of it and said to his team “make it smaller” So you are wrong
Totally agree. Hate the new Keyboard. Also it sits lower and the viewing angle is way further away, and the metal hinge scratches everything. Last years was perfect. Need to return it and find a good third party alternative now.
It is the downside, for sure. The upside is vast and the experience is better than a MacBook for my use case. I use it as a main device in and out of work day in day out since it launched and it’s been basically perfect aside from that one flaw. If the table isn’t perfectly flat it rocks. On a flat surface it’s pretty good, though.
“The line between them is blurring” No it’s not. One is a computer than you can have full access to and run whatever you want. The other is a toy hobbled by its OS for any greatness it could have because running software outside the App Store must be a “security risk”
My 11" Pro with the new Magic keyboard works perfect with min rocking just like the older magic keyboard. The only difference is that this new keyboard is much better in every way. The hinge gap is correct as you say but honestly no issue with its use
Tell me you got paid by Samsung without telling me you got paid by them. I have the 13 inch with the keyboard. I have two actually both don’t do this. I also don’t aggressively touch my iPad. Just the normal pressure
I’m convinced they do this crap on purpose. All the r&d they do and stuff ends up like this. Example: the charge port on the bottom of that mouse. They did that just so people would talk about it.
Biggest issue isn’t when it’s open… the biggest problem is trying to open the Magic Keyboard… the Comcast point between the screen and keyboard is too smooth. There’s nowhere to grab to pull it open… Plus, the metal hinge makes it impossible to use the friction of a table top to help open when it’s laying flat…. The iPad just slides away from you…
The 11 inch is much better. Apple had plenty of time to get this right. I also read quite a few complaints about the IPad 13in falling off the magnets and some have to remove and reapply the IPad, so the keyboard can work. Very disappointing.
The 11 inch is much better. Apple had plenty of time to get this right. I also read quite a few complaints about the IPad 13in falling off the magnets and some have to remove and reapply the IPad, so the keyboard can work. Very disappointing.
Very good catch 👌. Thanks for pointing it out . We use ipad as touch most of the times and this new magic keyoard really sucks in using ipad. We dont do 24hrs typing in ipad. I wish apple watches this video . Huge waste of money which is not usable for ipad.
Dude is paid by 3rd party accessory companies, so he has to shit on any accessories from Apple just to promote the 3rd party ones without logic. First of all, what he didn't think of is that you do not need to touch the screen if you have the keyboard. If you will be touching your screen that much, then you don't need the keyboard.
@@shuggfilmzandstudio2354that’s a completely anecdotal response, start saying I instead you bud. I actually touch the screen and so do others when it’s docked 🤯
@@AzrealJ Then in that case you don't need keyboard. Sell it to me I give you $100 for it, seems like you have an unusual tendency to buy shit you don't need that's unlike you.
This is ridiculous. I’ve got it and all you need to do is not push it all the way back if you’re gonna use the touch screen. Frankly I love that it goes further back than the OG Magic Keyboard.
That just sounds more like a work around. If the previous keyboard didn’t have this issue with a hard touch, this keyboard shouldn’t have it either. And even if the tipping wasn’t THAT big of an issue, I would expect this from a 3rd party product that’s $100, not from a first party accessory that is over $300.
Here’s a fatal flaw, how hard do people really have to press on an iPad screen? Almost barely any pressure, I also use my Apple Pencil pro which here’s a fatal flaw IT DOESN’T, you UA-camrs really do pick up on very minimalistic things when really you ain’t paying for an iPad, your returning it, it’s all about content creation with you folks, I’ve yet to come across a real genuine person who uses it for work and picks up on your “fatal flaws” if you really want something to punch go to a gym or here’s an idea DONT BE SO HEAVY HANDED ON THE MOST SOPHISTICATED IPAD OR TABLET to date
You know the difference between a touch screen and poke really hard screen right? And where’s your other hand usually? Yes, resting on the f-ing keyboard
Apple is a failure in itself. And there is another customer which shows another part of the truth. Seems like they laid off their complete quality control team. Well done! At least it probably has "Titanium", that's the most important, as well as those inflated prices which customers have to pay if they want a device without a headphone jack, micro-SD card slot and ugly "design".
I trusted you but clearly the angle you put them at was different. The centre of gravity changes when you change them like that. Are you trying to get views?
So by your logic, the angles that Apple gives is somehow this man's fault...if you suck on apple's carrot, that's fine, but when you type this, its just embarrassing.
I don't have this issue with the 13". You really have to push your finger hard to make it rock like that. Normal tapping is just fine, and I almost always have one hand still on the palmrest when I'm using my iPad like this. All the new benefits still outweigh this silly complaint.
for a 300 dollar keyboard you are just stupid if you don't see this as a major flaw, if it was android everybody will say this shit is a 40 dollar chinese keyboard,but it's apple so y'all make excuses,how sad and pathetic
I just tried in my local Apple Store and it‘s actually not that bad, if you use it as a touch screen and not as a punching bag. And on the 11 inch version the issue is even smaller and really neglectable for everyone. The overall built of the new Magic Keyboards has significantly improved compared to the previous versions though (which weren‘t bad at all) at they now feel absolutely on par with the keyboard of a regular Macbook to me. So, contrary to this short video, the new Magic Keyboards are actually the biggest improvements of them all, I would say.
I don't see a problem. They created an issue that they can say is better in the next release of the 300 Dollar keyboard. How can people still don't understand Apple. :D
Their QA team should all be sacked as that is the biggest mistake and one of the features to stay away from. Someone else please come up with an alternative as I don’t mind charging via usbc
Plus you can clearly see he’s pressing substantially harder on the new one while feather-light touching the others. Also the one he said “had no seesawing action” was literally doing that as he was saying it 😂
Hey so random but the company Verizon promoted for their Bluetooth apple iPad Pro keyboard like don’t exist. I had a crap ton of issues with this keyboard…it was a gift and I have only had it like 6 months. Anyone know how to get either a replacement or a in contact with the company? Verizon obviously isn’t helpful….and the keyboard was like 200+ bucks.
I can confirm that it doesn’t happen with the 11” one
As in the M4 11” Pro with this new keyboard is fine?
@@mentalman1369 yeah. I have the m4 11” with the new keyboard and it doesn’t happen with that one
@@franciscoferod1998 Test something that new iPad Pro works In the old version of keyboard case with modifications because the smart connection is the same
@@NicVandEmZ although it has same smart connection, the magnet distribution is different so it doesn't stay on the right place
Might have to do with the weight of the 13” as well. Since the 11” isn’t showing the same rocking gate issue
Well, when Apple hired people from the Boeing QA department, this was the result! 😂😂😂
This made me laugh, thanks for that 😂
QA validates assembly to specifications. The engineers designed it this way, so it would pass QA.
I guess Boeing and you have something in common: you have no idea what QA is.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@hou950I’m sorry.
Lmaoooo 😭😂😂 Boeing isn’t catching any breaks ☠️
I have a 13" and haven't noticed, but I freely admit, I do have a light touch, as I know I don't need to poke it hard to get it to work.
It is a setting you can go to settings and type touch to click and enable that option
Quite a few people are rushing in to say there’s no issue at all and you have to poke hard or punch the iPad like a punching bag to get this to happen. Meanwhile, the video shows it repeatedly rocking with relatively light pressure. Which is true??? Well, I’m sitting here typing this on my new M4 iPad Pro 13 with the Magic Keyboard. I can honestly say both are amazing, but… the issue is real.
It’s true that you can avoid the rocking by using light, gentle pressure, or keeping one hand on the Magic Keyboard or behind the iPad or by keeping it a more upright position (closer to 90 degrees). But putting it in the most comfortable viewing angle for me and applying just a little too much pressure without using your other hand to stabilize and IT WILL ROCK backwards causing the front of the keyboard to lift a bit. With strong hands, a multi-touch gesture in particular could easily generate sufficient force.
BTW, the Magic Keyboard for iPad 13 inch is $349, not $300 so it stings even a bit more to have to be careful to avoid this flaw. They could have made the hinge flush. I’m still within the return period, so considering my options from little rubber feet to returning.
So what? It’s all nitpicking at this point. They’ll still make money regardless 😂😂😂
@@mamaboy1121 People deciding what tools they want to bring into their lives have every right to consider all opinions and to nitpick about details-especially when spending this much money LOL.
So for me, even though the issue is real, it ended up not being a big enough deal to overcome all the things I really like about this new Magic Keyboard. But I understand people who feel it's a deal breaker as well as those who think it's a nothingburger. That's life!
Yes, Apple is obviously making money despite this issue. But that's a different topic IMO.
@@MikeG1111_ I understand what you're saying, but there are too many options out there if you feel like this is an issue. I would go to a Ferrari dealership and complain about there cars if Lexus has better options. As I said, Apple will continue being Apple with or without your dollar.
If Steve Jobs would have tried this out before production, he would’ve thrown it out a window and say “this is shit, start over”.
He was an ass but he knew what a good product was.
Nah, most of the good design was because of Jonny Ives. Steve was annoying idiot who wanted to keep the iPhone at 3.5in. Womp womp
jobs would not have agreed to keyboard or pencil in the first place.
i dunno why people still idolize jobs so much
Jobs would have done no such thing. The man was a marketer, not a designer or an engineer. You give that man credit for work he didn't do.
Didn't Apple (under Jobs) release an iPhone that wouldn't get on a cellular network?
@@eldritchbeauty he literally threw the first iPod into a fish tank, saw bubbles come out of it and said to his team “make it smaller”
So you are wrong
Hooooooow did they not catch this
Good catch.
Thank you! I am wondering if the new aluminium keyboard would scratch the display?
It’s actually annoying to have the hinge uncovered too
now try sitting it on your lap and see if it still tips over without any touching
Totally agree. Hate the new Keyboard. Also it sits lower and the viewing angle is way further away, and the metal hinge scratches everything. Last years was perfect. Need to return it and find a good third party alternative now.
100% agreed this is a tough design flaw.
just get a wireless keyboard and a mice. for a lot cheaper price and keep a overall lighter profile
Wow it’s like nobody tested it or something 😭 omg
the Smart Keyboards were the most stable and fun to type on.
It is the downside, for sure. The upside is vast and the experience is better than a MacBook for my use case. I use it as a main device in and out of work day in day out since it launched and it’s been basically perfect aside from that one flaw. If the table isn’t perfectly flat it rocks. On a flat surface it’s pretty good, though.
They forgot
“The line between them is blurring”
No it’s not. One is a computer than you can have full access to and run whatever you want. The other is a toy hobbled by its OS for any greatness it could have because running software outside the App Store must be a “security risk”
This is THE reason I’m not upgrading from iPad Air with Smart Folio keyboard. Such a shame because I want the better screen and speakers
In addition to this, I saw someone else complain that you cannot open the iPad with a single hand like the MacBooks because the hinges are too stiff.
You need the solution? Apple will sell it for additional $500 later. Take it or leave it, typical Apple core competencies.
Touch, dont push
With a glass screen protector, you'll push....
My 11" Pro with the new Magic keyboard works perfect with min rocking just like the older magic keyboard. The only difference is that this new keyboard is much better in every way. The hinge gap is correct as you say but honestly no issue with its use
I don't think anything could convince you that for $300, this is not acceptable
Uh oh. You got Cook biting his knees somewhere in the corner playing REM 😂
The keyboard is fine. Your desk is just holding it wrong.
Does the new Magic Keyboard (w function keys) fit the M1 iPad Pro?
that sucks, was about to order one for me
literally returned mine day 2 for the 11”
apple has fallen very far
@@Nemlvlmao i promise they are doing just fine
you expected too much from Apple haha. Steve Jobs is no longer around, you couldnt expect the same brain apples used to have
Apple the pinnacle of looking at the perfection of each products.. my foot
Tell me you got paid by Samsung without telling me you got paid by them. I have the 13 inch with the keyboard. I have two actually both don’t do this. I also don’t aggressively touch my iPad. Just the normal pressure
I’ll never understand how this shit gets past QC and into production.
İt gets worse when your using it on your bed
I’m convinced they do this crap on purpose. All the r&d they do and stuff ends up like this. Example: the charge port on the bottom of that mouse. They did that just so people would talk about it.
Biggest issue isn’t when it’s open… the biggest problem is trying to open the Magic Keyboard… the Comcast point between the screen and keyboard is too smooth. There’s nowhere to grab to pull it open…
Plus, the metal hinge makes it impossible to use the friction of a table top to help open when it’s laying flat…. The iPad just slides away from you…
Confused... So the magic keyboard for the 11 inch is ok but rhe 13 inch is a no go?
I can't speak for the 13", but my 11" is fine.
Same issue with m4 11 inch? Or only 13?
The 11 inch is much better. Apple had plenty of time to get this right. I also read quite a few complaints about the IPad 13in falling off the magnets and some have to remove and reapply the IPad, so the keyboard can work. Very disappointing.
The 11 inch is much better. Apple had plenty of time to get this right. I also read quite a few complaints about the IPad 13in falling off the magnets and some have to remove and reapply the IPad, so the keyboard can work. Very disappointing.
Apple should hire you!
Mine doesn’t do that. It doesn’t rock.
I think you are lying.
Does this happen on the 11” or just the 13”
Calling it a fatal flaw is a bit much, but it’s definitely a pretty inexcusably overlooked flaw
Returned the iPad and Keyboard today partly because of it
11 or 13? I do not have this issue with the 11.
Very good catch 👌. Thanks for pointing it out .
We use ipad as touch most of the times and this new magic keyoard really sucks in using ipad.
We dont do 24hrs typing in ipad.
I wish apple watches this video . Huge waste of money which is not usable for ipad.
That whole division probelmble getting fired ..
Tim Apple doesn't GIS, fanboys will buy anyway
Wow, that’s a huge deal but you do have to touch with force to get it to rock. Never had this issue with the prior model
Dude is paid by 3rd party accessory companies, so he has to shit on any accessories from Apple just to promote the 3rd party ones without logic. First of all, what he didn't think of is that you do not need to touch the screen if you have the keyboard. If you will be touching your screen that much, then you don't need the keyboard.
@@shuggfilmzandstudio2354that’s a completely anecdotal response, start saying I instead you bud. I actually touch the screen and so do others when it’s docked 🤯
@@AzrealJ Then in that case you don't need keyboard. Sell it to me I give you $100 for it, seems like you have an unusual tendency to buy shit you don't need that's unlike you.
@@shuggfilmzandstudio2354 are you stupid? Wait till you figure out some laptops have touchscreens and keyboards attached… crazy right
Mine doesn’t wobble. Click bait.
Your anecdotal experience doesn’t speak for everyone… this is not clickbait
Why would they make the keyboard base thinner and lighter than the iPad? Makes no sense.
I don’t know why you’re poking your screen but it’s supposed to be a touch. Remember??
That’s an amazing catch
How fatal is it?!?!?
for $300.....dead.
Mine is fine - you bust have a faulty one - no rocking here
This is ridiculous. I’ve got it and all you need to do is not push it all the way back if you’re gonna use the touch screen. Frankly I love that it goes further back than the OG Magic Keyboard.
That just sounds more like a work around. If the previous keyboard didn’t have this issue with a hard touch, this keyboard shouldn’t have it either.
And even if the tipping wasn’t THAT big of an issue, I would expect this from a 3rd party product that’s $100, not from a first party accessory that is over $300.
This doesn't happen with my 11" one.
Maybe I got lucky?
Somehow, I believe you. The rest of these people gush over new tech, and forget about their own standards.
Their engineers stopped engineering.
so return complained too much
So just gluing a long strip of tiny round plastic should make it flush
well I only wanted the 11 inch anyway xD
Woah good catch,yeah i think apple messed up with that one
Apple have been dropping the ball a lot lately.
Get $89 magic keyboard.
design fail
Here’s a fatal flaw, how hard do people really have to press on an iPad screen? Almost barely any pressure, I also use my Apple Pencil pro which here’s a fatal flaw IT DOESN’T, you UA-camrs really do pick up on very minimalistic things when really you ain’t paying for an iPad, your returning it, it’s all about content creation with you folks, I’ve yet to come across a real genuine person who uses it for work and picks up on your “fatal flaws” if you really want something to punch go to a gym or here’s an idea DONT BE SO HEAVY HANDED ON THE MOST SOPHISTICATED IPAD OR TABLET to date
They shouldn't have made the keyboard lightest and thinnest ever
Apple is now cutting Corners 😢
lies. my keyboard isn't rocking
What u got?
Where is Monty?
My 11 pro does not do that
They need to send you stuff before they make 200k of them.
Nice joke. Dont push just touch
And I think your pushing on it and not using it how real people would. Think this is click bait
You know the difference between a touch screen and poke really hard screen right? And where’s your other hand usually? Yes, resting on the f-ing keyboard
To say that this is a “fatal flaw” seems a bid dramatic.. no?
Apple is disappointing year by year
Apple is a failure in itself. And there is another customer which shows another part of the truth. Seems like they laid off their complete quality control team. Well done! At least it probably has "Titanium", that's the most important, as well as those inflated prices which customers have to pay if they want a device without a headphone jack, micro-SD card slot and ugly "design".
Terrible device
I trusted you but clearly the angle you put them at was different. The centre of gravity changes when you change them like that. Are you trying to get views?
So by your logic, the angles that Apple gives is somehow this man's fault...if you suck on apple's carrot, that's fine, but when you type this, its just embarrassing.
I don't have this issue with the 13". You really have to push your finger hard to make it rock like that. Normal tapping is just fine, and I almost always have one hand still on the palmrest when I'm using my iPad like this. All the new benefits still outweigh this silly complaint.
If you watch closely, 1st time he touch very light, I think the problem is he touched the top of the ipad and you touch the middle?
oh yeah making excuses for a 300 dollar keyboard that moves like a 10 dollar one
OMG! 😳😳😳
Whatta "drama queen" 🤣 "Fatal flaw" 😂
Bro made a video about nothing. You know how many times I’ve touched my iPad and thought “sheesh, I wish this wasn’t so wobbly?” Not once.
for a 300 dollar keyboard you are just stupid if you don't see this as a major flaw, if it was android everybody will say this shit is a 40 dollar chinese keyboard,but it's apple so y'all make excuses,how sad and pathetic
😮😂❤❤
I just tried in my local Apple Store and it‘s actually not that bad, if you use it as a touch screen and not as a punching bag. And on the 11 inch version the issue is even smaller and really neglectable for everyone.
The overall built of the new Magic Keyboards has significantly improved compared to the previous versions though (which weren‘t bad at all) at they now feel absolutely on par with the keyboard of a regular Macbook to me.
So, contrary to this short video, the new Magic Keyboards are actually the biggest improvements of them all, I would say.
Yes this guy hits the ipad as if hitting to enemy at war 😂😂
@@federaldelii for $300 it's still unacceptable
I believe that you're the type of person that marketing just grapes all day.
I got a surface pro doesnt do that😅
I don't see a problem. They created an issue that they can say is better in the next release of the 300 Dollar keyboard. How can people still don't understand Apple. :D
The 13" air is probably the worst that I've seen in person. It doesn't hold the iPad well. This is a problem when people use these in their laps.
You touch it like a toddler it’s going to tip…..
Their QA team should all be sacked as that is the biggest mistake and one of the features to stay away from. Someone else please come up with an alternative as I don’t mind charging via usbc
You can stop them from rocking, but you need to fold a few hundred-dollar bills and place those underneath the keyboard.
As a work around you can Velcro tape your desk and stop using it at Starbucks
And it's $300 wow
Someone is getting fired
This guy is exaggerating for clicks. The new 2024 Magic Keyboard is a huge improvement over the older Magic Keyboard.
Plus you can clearly see he’s pressing substantially harder on the new one while feather-light touching the others. Also the one he said “had no seesawing action” was literally doing that as he was saying it 😂
Fatal? Exaggerate much?
it's still janky for $300
@@grissom3310 I’ve been using it extensively for a week now… No issues since I don’t push on the touch screen like I have hoofs for hands. 🤷🏻♂️
i typed this with the magic keyboard
Hey so random but the company Verizon promoted for their Bluetooth apple iPad Pro keyboard like don’t exist. I had a crap ton of issues with this keyboard…it was a gift and I have only had it like 6 months. Anyone know how to get either a replacement or a in contact with the company? Verizon obviously isn’t helpful….and the keyboard was like 200+ bucks.
Is the problem with the larger iPads only? Is the 10.9in okay?
It wobbles more, yes. But is it a bis deal? When I use the Magic Keyboard, I normally don‘t touch the screen very often anymore.
This doesn't happen with my 13 inch m4 iPad / magic keyboard
Now go and make 3D printed bump to sell. Business opportunity indeed.
physics, rotation radius, etc… for 13 inch one makes sense