@@Sofisasam im no expert but intuitively id say that qq performs pretty much the same but with rng (and she's pretty easy to get going) while seele is more consistent but requires you to play her right.
DoTs are already dealing enough damage to chunk at least 15% of the enemy's hp on minimum per turn and that's still not counting the initial damage on hit. A character that allows DoTs to crit would break the ceiling for Kafka as she can proc all DoTs on an enemy on command, potentially propelling her close to Acheron levels of nuke or even better.
Meanwhile, I've had the best time with the newest PF cycle because of my Kafka/Sampo/Serval DoT spread making puddles of enemy health bars and Gui spreading burns to boost Himeko and shred health to trigger Herta.
1:21 It's already happening, and that's a good thing. Penacony is the closest arc to HI3 level of story telling, and is the fan favorite arc. Every character is cool and flashy, with no filler characters, which means you do not have to worry about your favorite character not being strong because all of them will get to be meta sooner or later. And don't get me started on Dan Heng getting his Imbibitor Lunae form. Bronya has 10 battlesuits in HI3, Himeko 6, and Seele recently got her 4th one. Also, that Cocolia boss fight that got everyone hyped is how story arcs usually end in HI3 since chapter 17.
Two fun notes. 1- The IPC team is getting Jade next patch, who apparently also is a FUA attacker and can fit in for a more meme/role play team. 2- Acheron and the Kafka-Swan teams can be combined into basically the premium/superior form of both, with SW optionally slotting in place of Kafka for single target content.
I also think Xueyi has a sleeper hit team out there somewhere. With 240% bonus dmg, you gotta have some broken team. Right now her best teams seem to be mono quantum and FUA dual dps, but she also seems to be able to take part in the upcoming break meta. I just feel she's gonna be someone whose stocks has tons of potential to go up with better synergies in the future.
@thatonedude9721it's pretty consistently the best performing version of their teams last I remember seeing. Swan + Mei is a pretty solid supportive core on it's own and let's Kafka and Acheron do good dmg. Not to mention the fact that Kafka/Swan/Acheron synergize pretty well
@thatonedude9721 wdym lack of supports just play ruan mei in the fourth slot, bam everyone buffed. If you have kafka's sig LC then you can also run the DoT relic set on acheron, which is better due to swan also having def shred.
I've been using Clara as my main carry, and her current team is great regardless of weakness types and can clear anything. Clara - nearly perma ulting blast counter main dps Topaz - single target and follow up boosting Robin - best support for FuA Huo Huo - keeping energy topped up Aventurine taunts attacks away from Clara too often and doesn't give her extra energy, it doesn't work as well from my testing.
@@junimondig It's not that she's liked more than HuoHuo, but that Lynx has a skill that allows her to literally throw aggro on anyone she wishes. Since Clara wants nothing more than to be hit, in this circumstance she would add comparable if not more value to a Clara main DPS team overall.
@@shotsfrom9180 What I meant was how they like playing Lynx instead of Huo Huo? :) And the taunt mechanic doesn't work on anyone but destruction units (and abundance? I forgot which the second class was but it would make sense so Lynx could taunt herself instead of putting a taunt on a hunt character ig). But yes, the taunt is exactly why I ask their opinion on playing them together!
Jingliu, Blade and Luocha are part of a nostalgia but comfort team for me. I do have the other teams mentioned but if the weakness allows it I gladly let them out to play more and know I will be fine.
Very happy about my investment in FUA long before we even learnt about Free Dr ratio. Now I just wish Blade could get some better support and bring us a proper Team Vengeance.
I have the IPC team and it’s really strong and also fun to play just seeing everyone spam their follow up attacks. Acheron, Black Swan and Ruan Mei is also such a good team comp that it made me realize just how valuable Ruan Mei is
RRAT team is so fun and chaotic i love it. Topaz as a future investment is undebatable, this unit will shine even brighter with the more FUA units released later. The only downside is that RRAT team or IPC team is very single target focused.
As the IPC members started throwing their FUAs and began attacking the enemy, they asked the enemy: “Are you the strongest, because you do they most damage, or do you do the most damage because you are the strongest.” Suddenly, the IPC members shrunk in fear as they saw another opponent: Astral Express Team: “Stand proud IPC, you are strong.”
@@zerovia6436 Yes, but he's a 4 star so his eidolons are easy to get. And it doesn't matter because i just said he and Ruan Mei are break based characters and he did not mention them.
by "the main conditions" im going to assume he meant everyone being quantum and the supports being who they are, the DPS spot is absolutely negotiable, you can even put xueyi in there if you'd like
Because seele is single target and if she do not crit your overall dps get hurts, even i have seele most of time im using qq because there is more content for aoe damage than single target.
Don’t be sad about what you don’t have, be happy with what you do have. It’s a game, the point is to have fun. Pull characters you like because you like them, not because they’re meta.
Don’t be sad about what you don’t have, be happy with what you do have. It’s a game, the point is to have fun. Pull for characters you like, not because they’re meta. Unless you’re just starting out.
Seele monoquantum has a substitute of Tingyun in place of Silverwolf, since Seele will have better Resurgence buff uptime when she ults. Her Tingyun team actually yields better clears than the Silverwolf variant, often being a turn faster on MOC metrics.
It feels nice to have 4 out of 5 teams on this list, excluding Acheron. It’s nice to have team options for every game mechanic instead of funneling everything towards a single hypercarry or team.
Even if Hook is at the bottom of every Tierlist and i nowadays rarely use her anymore, i have to remember: She was my first DPS. Her ult was always funny and I would later intentionally play on 1x speed to see her funny face during her ult. ^^ I Sadly cant really use her atm. I might have to do a dedicated 4-star Team, but using resources on that just feels wasted, compared to my other teams
@VarsII they're heavily sponsored, but not owned by. In the same way, for example, that an Academy is given funding by the government but isn't owned by the government (in the UK that's how academies work). The guild existed before they became subsidised by the IPC and can continue to without it. The IPC simply give them money, they have no ownership
7:00 - Despite his affiliation to IPC members like Aventurine, Dr. Ratio is NOT a member of the IPC. He's from the Genius Society, along with Herta and Ruan Mei
Of the teams listed in this video, the IPC team is the one I can easily make use of right now. Though often times I end up swapping Ratio for Clara because I do love the Counterattacking mechanic. I would really love to do the Hertako team comp, but I do lack Himeko right now. Tempted to simply choose her during the Standard Ult pity, rather than Bronya as many people would say to do. Granted, given that I have Sparkle who power-creeps on Bronya a bit already (minus the Cleanse Bronya can give), I might still pick Himeko
I argue that dual dps team of Jingliu with Blade is better than Jingliu hypercarry alone because they have good synergy especially with Lynx as the sustain. Lynx skill on Blade + Jingliu's spectral migration state and ult help trigger Blade's fua often is pretty good especially with Ruan Mei. They are my go to team for most content that doesn't heavily resist ice and wind dmg.
Regarding that statement regarding acheron on PF, we all know that's not how her technique works. PF has 3 waves and each wave have multiple enemies coming. Her technique only applies on per wave and not when the enemy comes inside that wave
A bit of a correction, Acheron Nihility trace is not 60% damage bonus, It is a 1.6 multiplier to all her damage after all calculations, meaning the damage formula gets multiplied by 1.6x
Dude pure fiction itself is more a character check than anything even if you brute force through PF its still way harder to clear without cracked teams and stats if you cant take advantage of the buffs for thet PF. Forgotten hall is much more forgiving in this aspect
I swear I'm the ONLY one who runs Preservation Trailblazer in my DoT team. Like seriously, go Kafka, Swan, Trailblazer, and a harmony. The DoT set maxes out it's bonus at 3 DoTs, and Trailblazer with Trend can guarantee burn on enemies to fulfill that 3rd dot requirement. Yall are just lazy or something lol
It's mostly because you need Trends, which gives a subpar DoT, while TB requires a ton of SP to comfortably sustain a team. And the damage increase from a single extra DoT (and small DoT) is generally not preferred over a sustain that is comfortable while supplying the SP to allow BS and Harmony to skill as well
wanna give a correction for the end there we don't just have boothill and harmony mc for break we also have ruan mei for her break efficiency buff and gallagher who scales off break effect which allows him to do damage too so we have a full break team we're also getting firefly who just like boothill is a break dps and both have good options for breakers if you don't have ruan mei with luka and guinaifen being able to utilize break or if you put a hybrid build on boothill you can run bronya/sparkle with him (he's still better with harmony mc as his other support tho)
Acheron, Pela, Gallagher, Welt is currently my favorite team in the game. Especially since I managed to get my hands on both Acheron and Welt’s signature light cones. I like to call it “The Abyss” in reference to Acheron’s quote when deployed alongside Welt.
I managed to get sparkle, himeko and Luocha in like the span of a week and then I got aventurine. My account went from struggling to literally dominating every end game.
Anyone know what charectors will rerun in 2.3? Im assuming it has to be huo huo ans argenti since those two plus ruan mei are the only version one charecters that havent had a rerun yet and ruan mei was in 1.6 so it might be too soon for her rerun Im hoping really bad ruan mei isnt in 2.3 because i wont have enough primos after rolling in boothill banner 😭
@@idkwhattowrite3244 are you talking about the leak in the sub? It's just a speculation, the charector banner files are no longer included in the beta files, evryone said that firefly would be in 2.2 phase 2 but she wasn't there
Nothing concrete yet afaik, but the current belief is that Ruan Mei and Argenti are going to run with Firefly and Jade respectively... and tbh I kinda believe it because the Firefly/Ruan Mei combo will create panic and fomo for people who want both for their break teams and don't have the latter, especially if they skipped Ruan Mei previously (or were just screwed over by rng like me). Plus we're apparently going to get another Nihility character in 2.4 (and another Foxian at that), so I can easily see Huohuo being paired up with that character since she works so well in DoT teams. And I doubt Dr Ratio's banner will rerun in 2.3 either, since he's the newest of the remaining pre-penacony characters, and we're still only just coming out of his freebie period.
@@Indian_gae_boii And yet it would be more profitable for them to run her with Firefly, to bait more people into paying for one/both of them. Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE for Ruan Mei to be in phase 2 so I could have a better chance at both her and FF, but I do not trust Hoyo to be that generous, even in Star Rail.
My strongest teams that I managed to create having almost all the limited 5 stars are: Jingliu/Argenti/Lunae/Jingyuan/Seele/Ratio, Bronya, Tingyun, Huohuo. In this team, Robin can replace either Tingyun or Bronya. Acheron, Welt, SW, Huohuo, this team is like Ace Of All Trades, destroys even pure fiction.
Seele > DHIL fight me. Just as Vars said in the situations you can use her she is really good, which is all of the game as long as you are not hyper fixated on only using mono quantum, which while being her most consistent team conceptually isn't her best team by a long shot. Just play her like any other hyper carry and you will see results (good supports also mitigate her killing "problem"). Mono quantum is just the cherry on top. I don't like bringing up 0-cycles in viability discussions but Seele and Acheron are the only two characters who have both 0-cycled and full scored every MoC/PF. Seele hasn't fallen off and I am tired of people pretending she did. The only thing that changed is that she doesn't have a complete choke hold on the meta anymore.
Asta is very underrated as a support if you don't have Ruan Mei or Robin cuz her buffs last theoretically forever if she has the most speed in the team
I use daniel, sparkle, mommy mei and gepard.. and name this team "bird hunter" You know.. that bird.. that obsessed with "order" so much he is willing to create a space mugen tsukiyomi.
I'm F2P so it can be a little hard to get all the characters I want. My favorite team to use is Luocha, Blade, Bronya, and Pela. Luocha's ability to heal outside of his turn for no SP makes him pretty good for Blade, who damages himself to deal good damage. Bronya makes Blade's turns come around faster while Pela is good for giving defense debuffs. I also have a team with Guinaifen, Aventurine, Dr Ratio, and Sparkle. The team works okay but Guinaifen is there in place of Topaz since I don't have her. I used everything I had trying to get Aventurine and his light cone. Got the gambler, not his light cone. It is true about his stacks though. I have him built to the point that his defense is over 4000 at the moment and he does pretty good. Though this is because I don't have his light cone. If I did I would do what is suggested for his body and planar pieces to make him hybrid.
we might see a DoT unit that can apply crit or has innate kit where it allows him/her to crit on DoT, its already on the Divergent Universe, even though it has a crir dmg limit, its still a dot crit, the only question now is when will hoyo decide on making it in a unit
Getting Himeko's cone from standard banner ahead of losing a 50/50 to her, ah, the aeons are merciful, though the E1S1 Clara luck has been my go-to for a while. Also have Yanqing and his cone, but said cone is on Ratio for the IPC FUA team.
My 300 wishes was for Himeko, regardless of Pure Fiction because I love her. Now Pure Fiction is such a cool content, I m even more happy of my choice. I hesitate with Bronya but loosing a 50/50 on her confirm that my 300 wishes were for Himeko and only her xP
DoT never failed me so far, Kafka + Black Swan combo, is just too good for both PF and MoC, also, i never healer on SU. Just, Acheron, Black Swan, Kafka, and Ruan Mei (i called it Mommies Team), but obviously for MoC i use HuoHuo. I didnt have any regret pulling for them.
Ruan Mei Gallagher Harmony TrailBlazer Boothill. With enough break HTB can turn all of them into dps’s wild still having supports and stuff. Although I lack Ruan Mei so idk what team I’m gonna use him on. Probably just use Bronya in place.
You're really overselling acheron's technique, pure fiction only has 3 actual waves that just have a lot of enemy reinforcements in them, her technique only activates a total of 3 times per battle if you use it Not bad, mind you, but not as good as you make it sound
My Acheron is E0, has light cone but not SI, so if she comes back I might pull for those E's. With Pela with Resolution Shines and a Preservation unit with Trend of the Universal Market, she's pretty good. My third nihility for that team is Guinaifen, but I plan on choosing Welt for my 300. I have no Black Swan, so my only wind Nihility dealer is Sampo. No Sparkle, but I have Bronya. Luka is also an available Nihility DPS, but he's not good in PF. Jingling single carry with Tingyun is probably a team that I should work on. I don't use Jingliu nearly as much as I did when I first got her, probably because I wanted to play with others 😂
It's scary how fast the meta changes in Star Rail, everytime a character launches I have to think if they are worth long term. Oh, this character does not really help me, I can finally skip, and then 1 or 2 patches later they release the most absurd character that REALLY helps the one I skip which by that point became SS tier, the best character ever and I just stand there like "Welp, that's a shame" Edit: Extra points if that character is super niche
@@shinidragon7775 Using dot as exemple: I skipped Kafka in 1.2 since she only had two possible teammates -> in 1.5 we got HuoHuo, the best healer for her due to the atk buff -> 1.6 we got Ruan Mei that came as a substitute for Asta in the main Kafka team -> 2.0 we got Black Swan which was a major upgrade over Sampo. Also at that same time we got Sparkle bringing back mono quantum and sp hungry units to the spotlight, Acheron right after setting a new level for hypercarry and Aventurine as a direct competition to Fu Xuan and as an upgrade to Gepard, after that we got Robin bringing the follow-up to another level and now we got a rise in break units and are going to get a new end game more focused on hunt units. The meta went from mono quantum to destruction hypercarry to DOT to hypercarry again to follow up and now is entering a Break/Super Break phase Edit: Also sorry if I wrote too much, I swear I just wanted to answer not to make an essay
I am excited about firefly how she uses break effect and will be universal weakness breaker like acheron or silver wolf as she will apply fire weakness on enemies.
Recently, the Herta Himeko team feels very weak in PF. I have decent builds on them, but they get around only 25k points even when I run them on the side that has either fire or ice weakness. Good thing my other team of Kafka, Swan and Acheron gets 40k points every time. Otherwise, I wouldn't be able to beat PF completely. The only exception is when there are FUA buffs in PF.
imo robin is only better than ruan mei in dot team if you want really fast clears, rm is still probably better for dot in longer fights, which unfortunately, we dont have any end game that prioritizes delay more than fast actions.
10:37 "pela, who is a pretty underrated support" pela is NOT underrated, she was one of the best suppports in the game before ruan mei and sparkle bc of her sp friendly and huge def reductions playstyle😭😭
My strongest non acheron team (because shes just broken and comparing her ro any other dps is just unfair) is probably jing yuan hyper carry, (jing yuan, robin, sparkle, fu xian) with full stacks off LL i can do 350-400ks And with full buffs from evryone skill can do upto 40-50k ult does 150k ish Although i admit, u have jings LC, c1r1 sparkle and c1 robin
Again, Dr. Ratio is a part of the Genius Society, not the IPC. So to answer your question if Herta/Himeko instead of Dr. Ratio/Robin is still the IPC team; yes. Topaz and Aventurine are our only IPC characters until we get Jade.
Im technically a day 1 player but Ive only started playing hsr seriously in 2.1 and have almost no characters so seeing these videos is just exhausting idjdid, at least I could use Himeko with her sig lc and e6 Herta and RM
At the rate that characters are releasing, Every other month Vars will release a "Top Five STRONGEST" video.
Free content 😏
@@VarsII infinite money glitch⁉️
A bag is a bag
@@Kam1_9 god knows he'll need it to afford them all
@@sliqyplayz8072gotta make that sweet dollar somehow
Another common name for the IPC team is the RRAT team. (Ratio, Robin, Aventurine, Topaz)
Rat 💀
I like DART
IPC rats LUL
TRAD!
DRAT
Mono quantum E6 QQ is the ultimate team if you have perfect luck.
This but unironically. Just reset till you do!
Mono Quantum is just grape-flavored Hypercarry. We stan the little gambling gremlin.
ah yes the 4 pull and autarky every round is a must, the crit too
I have E0S1 seele and E6 QQ and a fully built mono quantum team with Sparkle, E2 Sw and E1 Fu xuan, would seele or qq perform better?
@@Sofisasam im no expert but intuitively id say that qq performs pretty much the same but with rng (and she's pretty easy to get going) while seele is more consistent but requires you to play her right.
"Imagine if DoTs could crit"
...I get a feeling that in the future there will be a character that can cause DoTs to crit
I feel like it'll be dupe-locked like Nahida C2.
DoTs are already dealing enough damage to chunk at least 15% of the enemy's hp on minimum per turn and that's still not counting the initial damage on hit. A character that allows DoTs to crit would break the ceiling for Kafka as she can proc all DoTs on an enemy on command, potentially propelling her close to Acheron levels of nuke or even better.
surprise surprise, there will be a new simulated universe with new cards, one can make DoTs crit
They don't need to crit because crut characters already exist
Dot will just be increased by a future character not necessarily making dots crit
I actually don't hope for this at all because that means more relic farming 💀
Dude, I hate when pure fiction has dot buffs. I don't have any dot units built and without them this pure fiction is a nightmare
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Meanwhile, I've had the best time with the newest PF cycle because of my Kafka/Sampo/Serval DoT spread making puddles of enemy health bars and Gui spreading burns to boost Himeko and shred health to trigger Herta.
I had the opposite of your problem. The last PF had follow-up buffs and I run a DoT focused team 😢 it was hell.
Then build DOT >:D
so true
1:21 It's already happening, and that's a good thing. Penacony is the closest arc to HI3 level of story telling, and is the fan favorite arc. Every character is cool and flashy, with no filler characters, which means you do not have to worry about your favorite character not being strong because all of them will get to be meta sooner or later. And don't get me started on Dan Heng getting his Imbibitor Lunae form. Bronya has 10 battlesuits in HI3, Himeko 6, and Seele recently got her 4th one. Also, that Cocolia boss fight that got everyone hyped is how story arcs usually end in HI3 since chapter 17.
Misha :(
Honestly Penacony makes me play the game again and it is such a blast
Two fun notes.
1- The IPC team is getting Jade next patch, who apparently also is a FUA attacker and can fit in for a more meme/role play team.
2- Acheron and the Kafka-Swan teams can be combined into basically the premium/superior form of both, with SW optionally slotting in place of Kafka for single target content.
I also think Xueyi has a sleeper hit team out there somewhere. With 240% bonus dmg, you gotta have some broken team. Right now her best teams seem to be mono quantum and FUA dual dps, but she also seems to be able to take part in the upcoming break meta. I just feel she's gonna be someone whose stocks has tons of potential to go up with better synergies in the future.
@thatonedude9721it's pretty consistently the best performing version of their teams last I remember seeing. Swan + Mei is a pretty solid supportive core on it's own and let's Kafka and Acheron do good dmg. Not to mention the fact that Kafka/Swan/Acheron synergize pretty well
From what I've heard Jade has little synergy with the IPC team, and so far her best companion seems to be Blade.
@thatonedude9721 wdym lack of supports just play ruan mei in the fourth slot, bam everyone buffed. If you have kafka's sig LC then you can also run the DoT relic set on acheron, which is better due to swan also having def shred.
Blade sope is no near close to fkn herta 😂@@sombraelerizo
I've been using Clara as my main carry, and her current team is great regardless of weakness types and can clear anything.
Clara - nearly perma ulting blast counter main dps
Topaz - single target and follow up boosting
Robin - best support for FuA
Huo Huo - keeping energy topped up
Aventurine taunts attacks away from Clara too often and doesn't give her extra energy, it doesn't work as well from my testing.
try lynx, even though huohuo is better at healing, lynx with make sure clara is completely focused and healed
How do you like Lynx instead of Huo Huo?
@@junimondig It's not that she's liked more than HuoHuo, but that Lynx has a skill that allows her to literally throw aggro on anyone she wishes. Since Clara wants nothing more than to be hit, in this circumstance she would add comparable if not more value to a Clara main DPS team overall.
@@shotsfrom9180 What I meant was how they like playing Lynx instead of Huo Huo? :) And the taunt mechanic doesn't work on anyone but destruction units (and abundance? I forgot which the second class was but it would make sense so Lynx could taunt herself instead of putting a taunt on a hunt character ig).
But yes, the taunt is exactly why I ask their opinion on playing them together!
@@junimondig The taunt is for Destruction and Preservation units
Jingliu, Blade and Luocha are part of a nostalgia but comfort team for me. I do have the other teams mentioned but if the weakness allows it I gladly let them out to play more and know I will be fine.
"Or another DoT user"
Vars shows Sampo..
Not Luka or Guinafen but Sampo..
WHAT!? Sampo redemption arc?
SAMPO SWEEP
should rename this video to "top 5 teams you don't and will never have because it takes 6+ months for a character to be available"
Very happy about my investment in FUA long before we even learnt about Free Dr ratio. Now I just wish Blade could get some better support and bring us a proper Team Vengeance.
Jade apparently gives blade two stacks on his passive
@@ahem6679 between Jingliu and Jade, I’m starting to suspect Blade has some… preferences.
and he's only listen to Kafka@@vinnythewebsurfer
I think we need a burden team comp. More supports for blade like Jade where blade gets marked and takes all the consequences of buffs received.
I agree, destruction path is too lonely now, we need some good units.
6:33 this caught me off guard lol
He is not wrong
I have the IPC team and it’s really strong and also fun to play just seeing everyone spam their follow up attacks. Acheron, Black Swan and Ruan Mei is also such a good team comp that it made me realize just how valuable Ruan Mei is
RRAT team is so fun and chaotic i love it. Topaz as a future investment is undebatable, this unit will shine even brighter with the more FUA units released later. The only downside is that RRAT team or IPC team is very single target focused.
It destroys moc, I got lucky with aventurine Robin and topaz. can't wait for a limited 5 star FuA character stronger than ratio
Fortunately, due to... leaks we can say that us follow-up lovers are going to have a ball with Jade's follow ups
As the IPC members started throwing their FUAs and began attacking the enemy, they asked the enemy:
“Are you the strongest, because you do they most damage, or do you do the most damage because you are the strongest.”
Suddenly, the IPC members shrunk in fear as they saw another opponent:
Astral Express Team: “Stand proud IPC, you are strong.”
Honkai kaisen
13:53 Well, that didn't age well at all. 😂
We know exactly who we need.
Firefly/Boothill, Harmony TB, Ruan Mei, and Gallagher
I was gonna say, uhh, Firefly!
Predictions:
Acheron - Nihility
Black Swan - Kafka
Danny - Sparkle
IPC - Robin
Super Break Harm-ony - Boothill
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pretty much it lol
you forgot Neuvillette hypercarry.
oh wait. hmmm…🤨
Nah dot is op as fuck
More like "Kafka - Black Swan" since Kafka needs BS to stay atop cuz she's the Driver not vice versa
For the break team, you forgot to mention Ruan Mei and Gallagher.
Gallagher needs eidolons to be effective
@@zerovia6436 Yes, but he's a 4 star so his eidolons are easy to get. And it doesn't matter because i just said he and Ruan Mei are break based characters and he did not mention them.
"his eidolons are easy to get"
Pulls 5 dh eidolons, 1 pela eidolon and 0 gallagher during acheron banner /j
13:39 how is that non-negotiable exactly, people use Qingque just as much as Seele in that team
by "the main conditions" im going to assume he meant everyone being quantum and the supports being who they are, the DPS spot is absolutely negotiable, you can even put xueyi in there if you'd like
Because seele is single target and if she do not crit your overall dps get hurts, even i have seele most of time im using qq because there is more content for aoe damage than single target.
why am i watching this it’s only gonna make me more sad i didn’t pull for them
They will surely rerun in due time. You’ll accumulate enough pulls to guarantee them when they come back
Don’t be sad about what you don’t have, be happy with what you do have. It’s a game, the point is to have fun. Pull characters you like because you like them, not because they’re meta.
Don’t be sad about what you don’t have, be happy with what you do have. It’s a game, the point is to have fun. Pull for characters you like, not because they’re meta. Unless you’re just starting out.
"We only have two characters for break right now."
Ruan Mei: "Am I a joke to you?"
Seele monoquantum has a substitute of Tingyun in place of Silverwolf, since Seele will have better Resurgence buff uptime when she ults. Her Tingyun team actually yields better clears than the Silverwolf variant, often being a turn faster on MOC metrics.
yea no its not a substitute...its the BIS.
cause monoquantum is terrible.
@@anristellariza9036 only if your relics / lcs / edilons are garbage
It feels nice to have 4 out of 5 teams on this list, excluding Acheron. It’s nice to have team options for every game mechanic instead of funneling everything towards a single hypercarry or team.
Tips: Use acheron with Kafka + Swan in PF will delete any elite boss there easily
Even if Hook is at the bottom of every Tierlist and i nowadays rarely use her anymore, i have to remember: She was my first DPS. Her ult was always funny and I would later intentionally play on 1x speed to see her funny face during her ult. ^^ I Sadly cant really use her atm. I might have to do a dedicated 4-star Team, but using resources on that just feels wasted, compared to my other teams
I'm still confused on how people say that Ratio is a part of the IPC.
The Intelligentsia Guild is literally stated as being a part of/funded by the IPC
@@DG_Toti they work with the IPC, but they aren't a part of it
The guild is subsidized by the IPC which means they’re under affiliation which means they’re part of it.
@@AdamB_29if they’re funded by the ipc they might as well be part of the ipc
@VarsII they're heavily sponsored, but not owned by. In the same way, for example, that an Academy is given funding by the government but isn't owned by the government (in the UK that's how academies work). The guild existed before they became subsidised by the IPC and can continue to without it. The IPC simply give them money, they have no ownership
Dhil mentioned am so happy ☺️
7:00 - Despite his affiliation to IPC members like Aventurine, Dr. Ratio is NOT a member of the IPC. He's from the Genius Society, along with Herta and Ruan Mei
Dr. Ratio is not from the Genius Society. He is from the Intelligentsia Guild. Which is subsidized by the IPC.
Dr, ratio is from the intelligence guild, while not affiliated they are still under the umbrella of the ipc. A seperate branch of sorts.
Of the teams listed in this video, the IPC team is the one I can easily make use of right now. Though often times I end up swapping Ratio for Clara because I do love the Counterattacking mechanic.
I would really love to do the Hertako team comp, but I do lack Himeko right now. Tempted to simply choose her during the Standard Ult pity, rather than Bronya as many people would say to do. Granted, given that I have Sparkle who power-creeps on Bronya a bit already (minus the Cleanse Bronya can give), I might still pick Himeko
I argue that dual dps team of Jingliu with Blade is better than Jingliu hypercarry alone because they have good synergy especially with Lynx as the sustain. Lynx skill on Blade + Jingliu's spectral migration state and ult help trigger Blade's fua often is pretty good especially with Ruan Mei. They are my go to team for most content that doesn't heavily resist ice and wind dmg.
Regarding that statement regarding acheron on PF, we all know that's not how her technique works. PF has 3 waves and each wave have multiple enemies coming. Her technique only applies on per wave and not when the enemy comes inside that wave
My predictions were pretty spot on, I discarded Herta - Himeko because it’s only PF but understandable decision to include them
A bit of a correction, Acheron Nihility trace is not 60% damage bonus, It is a 1.6 multiplier to all her damage after all calculations, meaning the damage formula gets multiplied by 1.6x
So say her damage is 10,000, the with the 1.6 boost it would be 16,000? 6,000 extra dmg? Or would it be 10,000 + 16,000 = 26,000?
@@bluemoon9683 16000
Dude pure fiction itself is more a character check than anything even if you brute force through PF its still way harder to clear without cracked teams and stats if you cant take advantage of the buffs for thet PF. Forgotten hall is much more forgiving in this aspect
I swear I'm the ONLY one who runs Preservation Trailblazer in my DoT team.
Like seriously, go Kafka, Swan, Trailblazer, and a harmony. The DoT set maxes out it's bonus at 3 DoTs, and Trailblazer with Trend can guarantee burn on enemies to fulfill that 3rd dot requirement.
Yall are just lazy or something lol
It's mostly because you need Trends, which gives a subpar DoT, while TB requires a ton of SP to comfortably sustain a team. And the damage increase from a single extra DoT (and small DoT) is generally not preferred over a sustain that is comfortable while supplying the SP to allow BS and Harmony to skill as well
wanna give a correction for the end there we don't just have boothill and harmony mc for break we also have ruan mei for her break efficiency buff and gallagher who scales off break effect which allows him to do damage too so we have a full break team we're also getting firefly who just like boothill is a break dps and both have good options for breakers if you don't have ruan mei with luka and guinaifen being able to utilize break or if you put a hybrid build on boothill you can run bronya/sparkle with him (he's still better with harmony mc as his other support tho)
Break meta is gonna be pushed to the limits soon. Firefly and Jade are... well... lets just say Ruan Mei stonks are gonna soar
Acheron, Pela, Gallagher, Welt is currently my favorite team in the game. Especially since I managed to get my hands on both Acheron and Welt’s signature light cones.
I like to call it “The Abyss” in reference to Acheron’s quote when deployed alongside Welt.
aaayyy! we have the same Acheron team!
@@skyhart9926 Oh awesome! :D
Acheron violating the Geneva Convention was not something I expected to hear today but here we are
"Imagine if DoT could CRIT"
Me looking at that one Equation in Divergent Universe: Say less
I managed to get sparkle, himeko and Luocha in like the span of a week and then I got aventurine. My account went from struggling to literally dominating every end game.
Anyone know what charectors will rerun in 2.3? Im assuming it has to be huo huo ans argenti since those two plus ruan mei are the only version one charecters that havent had a rerun yet and ruan mei was in 1.6 so it might be too soon for her rerun
Im hoping really bad ruan mei isnt in 2.3 because i wont have enough primos after rolling in boothill banner 😭
From what I heard unfortunately ruan mei would rerun with firefly and argenti with jade
@@idkwhattowrite3244 are you talking about the leak in the sub? It's just a speculation, the charector banner files are no longer included in the beta files, evryone said that firefly would be in 2.2 phase 2 but she wasn't there
Nothing concrete yet afaik, but the current belief is that Ruan Mei and Argenti are going to run with Firefly and Jade respectively... and tbh I kinda believe it because the Firefly/Ruan Mei combo will create panic and fomo for people who want both for their break teams and don't have the latter, especially if they skipped Ruan Mei previously (or were just screwed over by rng like me). Plus we're apparently going to get another Nihility character in 2.4 (and another Foxian at that), so I can easily see Huohuo being paired up with that character since she works so well in DoT teams. And I doubt Dr Ratio's banner will rerun in 2.3 either, since he's the newest of the remaining pre-penacony characters, and we're still only just coming out of his freebie period.
@@KyuubiDragon4 if ruan mei does rerun, it will have to be phase two, because no way they will pair two erudition together
@@Indian_gae_boii And yet it would be more profitable for them to run her with Firefly, to bait more people into paying for one/both of them. Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE for Ruan Mei to be in phase 2 so I could have a better chance at both her and FF, but I do not trust Hoyo to be that generous, even in Star Rail.
My strongest teams that I managed to create having almost all the limited 5 stars are:
Jingliu/Argenti/Lunae/Jingyuan/Seele/Ratio, Bronya, Tingyun, Huohuo. In this team, Robin can replace either Tingyun or Bronya.
Acheron, Welt, SW, Huohuo, this team is like Ace Of All Trades, destroys even pure fiction.
Seele > DHIL fight me. Just as Vars said in the situations you can use her she is really good, which is all of the game as long as you are not hyper fixated on only using mono quantum, which while being her most consistent team conceptually isn't her best team by a long shot. Just play her like any other hyper carry and you will see results (good supports also mitigate her killing "problem"). Mono quantum is just the cherry on top.
I don't like bringing up 0-cycles in viability discussions but Seele and Acheron are the only two characters who have both 0-cycled and full scored every MoC/PF. Seele hasn't fallen off and I am tired of people pretending she did. The only thing that changed is that she doesn't have a complete choke hold on the meta anymore.
Seele is arguably the best dps in the game if u play her right. But she does need a higher relic investment than any other unit in the game.
Lmao the cope.
2:38 made me spit out my drink...well done Mister
Having both Acheron and Dan Heng IL is making me very happy
Asta is very underrated as a support if you don't have Ruan Mei or Robin cuz her buffs last theoretically forever if she has the most speed in the team
I use daniel, sparkle, mommy mei and gepard.. and name this team "bird hunter"
You know.. that bird.. that obsessed with "order" so much he is willing to create a space mugen tsukiyomi.
13:34 bro got there 💀
For the mono quantum team, if u don't have seele, you can use Xueyi
I'm F2P so it can be a little hard to get all the characters I want. My favorite team to use is Luocha, Blade, Bronya, and Pela. Luocha's ability to heal outside of his turn for no SP makes him pretty good for Blade, who damages himself to deal good damage. Bronya makes Blade's turns come around faster while Pela is good for giving defense debuffs. I also have a team with Guinaifen, Aventurine, Dr Ratio, and Sparkle. The team works okay but Guinaifen is there in place of Topaz since I don't have her. I used everything I had trying to get Aventurine and his light cone. Got the gambler, not his light cone. It is true about his stacks though. I have him built to the point that his defense is over 4000 at the moment and he does pretty good. Though this is because I don't have his light cone. If I did I would do what is suggested for his body and planar pieces to make him hybrid.
Lol, I love the little Firefly peaking in on Boothill and Harmony TB. I already know what it hints at.
New break unit, perhaps 🤔
we might see a DoT unit that can apply crit or has innate kit where it allows him/her to crit on DoT, its already on the Divergent Universe, even though it has a crir dmg limit, its still a dot crit, the only question now is when will hoyo decide on making it in a unit
There's a 5* replacement for Pela coming in the future, which will make Acheron even more ridiculous.
Getting Himeko's cone from standard banner ahead of losing a 50/50 to her, ah, the aeons are merciful, though the E1S1 Clara luck has been my go-to for a while.
Also have Yanqing and his cone, but said cone is on Ratio for the IPC FUA team.
Bro did you get a new mic? Your voice is too soothing lol, can't help but fall asleep. It's like you are whispering lullaby in my ears hahaha
Back when I to think mono quantum was the ultimate comp, hsr meta is completely different now.
Fire Emblem Engage Battle Prep theme is a very good choice. Absolute banger.
My 300 wishes was for Himeko, regardless of Pure Fiction because I love her. Now Pure Fiction is such a cool content, I m even more happy of my choice. I hesitate with Bronya but loosing a 50/50 on her confirm that my 300 wishes were for Himeko and only her xP
I once saw someone describe Seeles situation as "local woman literally too angry to be powercrept"
And they're right
My friend claimed her Jingyuan/robin/tinyun/natasha can beat the IPC team any day anytime
She can't
6:32 is a moment where EVERYONE wishes they were HuoHuo
DoT never failed me so far, Kafka + Black Swan combo, is just too good for both PF and MoC, also, i never healer on SU. Just, Acheron, Black Swan, Kafka, and Ruan Mei (i called it Mommies Team), but obviously for MoC i use HuoHuo. I didnt have any regret pulling for them.
don't forget Ruan Mei being a very very good support for break teams
I love acheron she gives me a useful place to use welt realisticly ;-;
Ruan Mei Gallagher Harmony TrailBlazer Boothill. With enough break HTB can turn all of them into dps’s wild still having supports and stuff. Although I lack Ruan Mei so idk what team I’m gonna use him on. Probably just use Bronya in place.
Literally a day later boothill comes with the biggest fudging ST nuke
You're really overselling acheron's technique, pure fiction only has 3 actual waves that just have a lot of enemy reinforcements in them, her technique only activates a total of 3 times per battle if you use it
Not bad, mind you, but not as good as you make it sound
Team 1: Himeko-Herta
Team 2: Kafka-Swan
Team 3: RRAT
Team 4: Acheron
Team 5: DHIL
Here was (Probably) My Strongest Team in HSR
Jingliu as Main DPS
Bronya as Attack Buffer
Gepard as Tank
Huohuo as Healer
Two five star sustains in the same team is overkill
We're gonna ignore double sustain
Mine is probably jing yuan hyper carry ( jing yuan, Robin sparkle, fu Xuan) (besides acheron team but she's too broken so I won't speak on her)
gepard isn’t that great with jingliu and bronya, the shield wears off way too fast on them
Mine is
Dr ratio
SW
Aventurine
Robin
My poor a*s doesn't have topaz
My Acheron is E0, has light cone but not SI, so if she comes back I might pull for those E's. With Pela with Resolution Shines and a Preservation unit with Trend of the Universal Market, she's pretty good. My third nihility for that team is Guinaifen, but I plan on choosing Welt for my 300. I have no Black Swan, so my only wind Nihility dealer is Sampo. No Sparkle, but I have Bronya. Luka is also an available Nihility DPS, but he's not good in PF.
Jingling single carry with Tingyun is probably a team that I should work on. I don't use Jingliu nearly as much as I did when I first got her, probably because I wanted to play with others 😂
FE ENGAGE OST YESSSSSSSS
Acheron breaks the Geneva convention. I like that
It's scary how fast the meta changes in Star Rail, everytime a character launches I have to think if they are worth long term.
Oh, this character does not really help me, I can finally skip, and then 1 or 2 patches later they release the most absurd character that REALLY helps the one I skip which by that point became SS tier, the best character ever and I just stand there like "Welp, that's a shame"
Edit: Extra points if that character is super niche
Examples?
@@shinidragon7775 Using dot as exemple:
I skipped Kafka in 1.2 since she only had two possible teammates -> in 1.5 we got HuoHuo, the best healer for her due to the atk buff -> 1.6 we got Ruan Mei that came as a substitute for Asta in the main Kafka team -> 2.0 we got Black Swan which was a major upgrade over Sampo. Also at that same time we got Sparkle bringing back mono quantum and sp hungry units to the spotlight, Acheron right after setting a new level for hypercarry and Aventurine as a direct competition to Fu Xuan and as an upgrade to Gepard, after that we got Robin bringing the follow-up to another level and now we got a rise in break units and are going to get a new end game more focused on hunt units. The meta went from mono quantum to destruction hypercarry to DOT to hypercarry again to follow up and now is entering a Break/Super Break phase
Edit: Also sorry if I wrote too much, I swear I just wanted to answer not to make an essay
I am excited about firefly how she uses break effect and will be universal weakness breaker like acheron or silver wolf as she will apply fire weakness on enemies.
Based on the Firefly sticker at the end, I guess that you have been spoiled right, Vars?
sneaky firefly sticker when talking about hmc and break teams at the end lmaoo
Recently, the Herta Himeko team feels very weak in PF. I have decent builds on them, but they get around only 25k points even when I run them on the side that has either fire or ice weakness. Good thing my other team of Kafka, Swan and Acheron gets 40k points every time. Otherwise, I wouldn't be able to beat PF completely. The only exception is when there are FUA buffs in PF.
imo robin is only better than ruan mei in dot team if you want really fast clears, rm is still probably better for dot in longer fights, which unfortunately, we dont have any end game that prioritizes delay more than fast actions.
Acheron must be Canadian if she’s breaking the Geneva suggestions
no mono quantum mention is so tragic 😭 i SWEAR it’s still good!!
It's in the honorable mentions
If were talking pure damage ceiling, I have no doubt in my mind an E6 S5 DHIl is smoking everybody and its not even close
E6s5 acheron hitting over 6 million in moc.
@@bluemoon9683 everybody doing 6 million, but IL does it faster
10:37 "pela, who is a pretty underrated support" pela is NOT underrated, she was one of the best suppports in the game before ruan mei and sparkle bc of her sp friendly and huge def reductions playstyle😭😭
I feel like Jade is gonna make HertaKo insane
we do have some break support. Galaghar and Ruan Mei buff Break, Asta buffs dmg and is a good breaker, same with Harmony MC.
My strongest non acheron team (because shes just broken and comparing her ro any other dps is just unfair) is probably jing yuan hyper carry, (jing yuan, robin, sparkle, fu xian) with full stacks off LL i can do 350-400ks
And with full buffs from evryone skill can do upto 40-50k ult does 150k ish
Although i admit, u have jings LC, c1r1 sparkle and c1 robin
This pure fiction was hell, I made 2 6x character nihility teams to pass it. Only way to beat it.
my strongest team is mono imaginary and only really works against imaginary enemies
Imbibitor Lunae, harmony TB, Aventurine and Luocha
How cheeky with that FF cameo at the end.
so basically, without acheron, sparckle and robin i am DOOMED
Again, Dr. Ratio is a part of the Genius Society, not the IPC. So to answer your question if Herta/Himeko instead of Dr. Ratio/Robin is still the IPC team; yes. Topaz and Aventurine are our only IPC characters until we get Jade.
Dr. Ratio is not part of the Genius Society. He's a member of the Intelligentsia Guild, an institution sponsored by the IPC.
Dr ratio is not part of the genius society dude. Where did you ever get that from?
Me when I pull bullsht out of my ass
@@VarsII lol I got them mixed up, I meant the Intelligentsia Guild of course. But yeah he's not part of the IPC which was my point.
@@Z.oneO.fE.ndless The IPC likely has their fingers in many pies, it doesn't make him affliliated with the IPC.
Dont go for break team. Streamers make you think it is easy to get the eidolons for HTB, but it is not. Avoid break teams till this balance is fixed.
HouHou + Kafka+ Black Swan and Acheron, this team is OVER kill.
if you do talk about break teams later gallagher is also a break enjoyer
My dumbass took 5 minutes to realize that Hertako is Herta+Himeko and not a sound alike of Vertigo because..yknow. kuru kuru 💀
It took my dumbas you mentioning it 💀😭
Strongest Team:
Acheron, DHIL, Jingliu, Huo Huo
The starving for some spare SP team
Some people would unironically use this team then scream for story boss nerfs
Strongest Team:
Hook, Hook, Hook, -HTB- Hook
I don't get why Dr. Ratio is included as an IPC member in the IPC team? He's part of the Intelligenista Guild, not the IPC...
From what I know, he collaborates with the IPC? He was able to open the cornerstone box after all.
He belongs to his own IPC definition alright -- Intelligent, Perfectionist, and Clever...
Ratio is the true boss and act like aizen from bleach.
technically there are only 3 waves in pure fiction so acheron technique while good, only procs 3 times
Im technically a day 1 player but Ive only started playing hsr seriously in 2.1 and have almost no characters so seeing these videos is just exhausting idjdid, at least I could use Himeko with her sig lc and e6 Herta and RM
Me at least I have Himeko Herta, Imbibitor with Sparkle, Acheron and the ipc but without Robin. the only one that I don't have is DOT team