@@aomafura3374 Enigmata is all about mystifying and concealing the truth of something, therefore the art of lying is still part of the philosophy of Enigmata
Honestly I like to think that one day we will get an ICE type emanator of equilibrium being an allusion to the prevalence of Initial Change Equilibrium tables and equilibrium in chemistry. That will definitely be my favorite emanator due to the relatability to real life.
@@kangpisang Why do I have a feeling that baby was Nanook when he was still human, that would've been hilarious if that was true, Aha was already trolling Nanook even as a baby LMFAO
@@kangpisang The story goes that THEY climbed to the top of the Imaginary Tree to see alll of existance at once, saw how everything was a giant simulation and probably well on THEIR way to fall into Nihility, and the saw a baby fall of their bed and started to cry, makin THEM laugh (which was heard across the universe since, you know, THEY were at the top of *existence*) and giving THEM the realization that everything is just a giant comedy in the making and how tragedy can bring laughtef, ascending to Aeonhood in the process.
Herta might just be an old lady, and why do I feel she has a stronger puppet hidden somewhere for dire situations that's ultra powerful that she herself links to and that might be 5 star herta
@@aomafura3374technically the same thing since the truth gets lost in the misinformation. Both the riddlers and the fictionoligist do anything and everything they can to make sure that no one knows what’s going on
@@aomafura3374 one way to destroy information is to turn it into something it’s not. You can try to destroy information, but more than likely someone will rediscover it. If you can convince people that your lie is the truth that stops most people from even looking.
@@dvvnawell sunday cases already shown that someone can take over that parh to be an aeon.. but in sunday case he need many people under the influence of order to make the foundation for the new aeon pop up out from the egg.. hence the hand from sunday boss ultimate
It is more accurate to say that Acheron has just walk farther into the Nihility than the mundane. It was stated that the Nihility envelops everyone equally. And only few have walk farther into it, tainting themselves with more Nihility. In a sense, becoming an Emanator.
The big difference is that Acheron somehow *survived* walking close to IX/Nihility, since everyone else is said to become so unattached to everything that they simply disapear into IX's shadow
I also think that not everyone who taints themselves with Nihility become Emanators. Once you become a Self-Annhilator, you need to have a strong grasp of your own existence, otherwise you'll eventually end up getting devoured.
@@xiangzihuathen explain to me why time went backwards at the start of penecony? That’s literally the authority of finality.She can also change outcomes of dialogue which again is the authority of finality
Danfeng going rogue and dragging Yingxing with him is what they want us to believe. That's the version Jingliu believes and we know she was hallucinating thanks to Shuhu's powers. LalodysLore has a great two part video showing in-game evidence about how Bailu was actually the preceptors' collaborative project with the Sanctus Medicus' disciples in the alchemy commission, and how they framed Danfeng so he could take the fall for all of them, someone disposable for the preceptors since they could no longer keep him under their thumb. I love this part of the Luofu's history because we have Jingyuan and Jignliu as unreliable narrators, Blade repeating whatever Jingliu groomed into him, Danheng who can't remember a thing for his life, and a bunch of long and boring sanctus medicus experiment logs and other military reports scattered all over to try and maybe make sense of wtf could have happened to the high cloud quintet.
@SordidusFellatioWhenever you run across them is only way to read them without getting bogged down, there's way too many on the Luofu. People like Ladylore go back and read them carefully from the archive tho
@SordidusFellatioI read a couple, especially if it's tied to a character or concept I find interesting, but otherwise not so much. On the plus side I now know the different kinds of performance art on the Loufu
The Enigmata do what they do because of what IRL is called Laplace's Demon. Basically, in classical physics if you know all the laws of physics and the position of every atom and particle you can predict the future which means free will does not exist. The Enigmata believe that as long as Nous does not know everything about the universe then there is still room for free will.
@@ilnas8242 And that's the reason why God would be an entity that ironically supports free will, because as long as you don't know the alignment of every atom and particle, then the room for free will exists. Ummm game context-wise, I don't think they'd go that far. The highest level of beings established in lore are Aeons because we have a story to tell about them.
Sunday would eventually become the new aeon of order hence the name "Embryo of philosophy Sunday" even Himeko pointed out that he will be the one reigning supreme if Sunday suceeded
@@TheGamerChronicles999 Also fun fact Aelenev The Eternal Centurion one of the many embodiments of Xipe and an Emanator scared off the antimatter legion that's why they don't wanna attack Penacony anymore except for the Annihilation Gang which Nanook even hates lol
re: Sampo being am emanator Boothill also mentions he met an emanator of Aha who was a masked fool, and during Masked Duet he is getting his mask back, and on his way back to Jarilo-VI. imo this hints that we haven't seen him at his full power and will when we return to Belobog.
Which actually makes me think, what sort of catastrophe could be heading that way where Sampo would need to call upon the elations power in order to over come it. I believe it might have something to do with the world now thawing, and countless soldiers of the antimatter legion beginning to unfreeze. It's a ground invasion all over again and the strengths needed to overcome that would likely require an emanator. Along those lines, its not exactly unlikely that the antimatter legion could be receiving reinforcements to drive belabog into extinction.
@@Adam-sf4wn ikr. I've been worried about Belobog the moment the game revealed Sampo was gonna return to do something. Like, what's going on? isn't that planet already saved? Are we getting another massive Belobog update? While tragedy can bring happiness (Elation), destruction only brings forth destruction so I'd understand if an Elation emanator steps up to save the day. That's what Sparkle did in Penacony for Firefly.
I believe that either there will be a revelation about the true worth of Geomarrow ( because why else would the IPC be so desperate to claim Jarilo VI), or someone from the Annihilation Gang finds Belobog, or Natasha's brother returns and brings some kind of threat with him.
One note about Firefly as Sam being able to see Black Swan. She was able to see Black Swan because Black Swan had already allowed Firefly to be capable of seeing her, and had no reason to disallow it. Because Black Swan didn't immediately realize it was Firefly, it caught her off guard. I imagine she put two and two together soon after, though.
@duelowiec8973 what do you mean where is it mentioned? Firefly reacts to and can interact with Black Swan when Black Swan takes on the Memory Zone meme.
@lolosh99 It could be, but that's not something that's implied. The Iron Cavalry designs wouldn't have any reason to have the ability to view Memetic Entities since they were designed to handle the Swarm. Infrared to see them when they're invisible maybe, but that's not the same way a Memetic Entity works.
Black Swan going in and out of worlds collecting memories undetected and not allowing herself to be seen. Also Black Swan seeing cool metal robot: "I'll allow it"
I saw somebody from another video say this. I can't find the OP, but essentially, it says that the reason why Acheron is so powerful is probably because unlike other Aeons, IX dosen't give a crap about how much power she draw upon their path.
Ya exactly think I did state that but if the aeon isnt focused on that individual like most aeons are with emanators and they are a black hole they prob dont care
Another reason why Acherons power is beyond absurd: There are beings in the Hoyoverse called Herrschers (from Honkai Impact 3) who share a similar level of power with emanators (Welt is a former herrscher as well) There were 14 of them, and each had the power to wipe continents at their prime. The last Herrscher in particular ended civilization. Now, acheron's sword in particular has the equivalent of the power or authority of all 14 of those beings, all forged into one blade, and amped by the power of Nihility, of which she has unlimited access to. Cleaving a dream world in half is only a glimpse into her extreme power. She is one being even the Lord Ravagers might fear
What if IX is actually the precursor of the mathematical concept of trigonometric functions because Reiman’s theorem states that e^ix= cosx+ isinx. This means that complex exponential functions (e^ix) yields real trigonometric and complex trigonometric functions. This also foreshadows a force eventually absorbing ix to become e^ix.
One thing I feel that differentiate between a mortal that is blessed by an Aeon and an Emanator is weather or not the mortal can access the path or not. I'll use Fu Xuan as the biggest example, her third eye is a gift/blessing from the Aeon Nous, however she is not an Emanator of Eruditon(i'm pretty sure she is also not a member of the genius society). Pathstriders can draw power from the paths, an Emanator is given direct access to a portion of the path. A blessing or gift is a portion of power from the path given to the mortal. Using the cooking analogy in the video, pathstriders can cook by drawing the knowledge from the Aeon of cooking, gifts/blessing is the Aeon of cooking giving a recipe to the mortal, While emanators are able to access a part of the Aeon of cooking's kitchen, recipes and equipment. The stonehearts are also an interesting case, Diamond is an Emanator of the Preservation, but they have split their power into stones and distributed them to the stonehearts. The stonehearts could be considered a blessing/gift but the users aventurine,topaz,Jade are not emanators because they do not have access to the path of Preservation. This perseptive also makes the generals of the Xianzhou alliance not Emanators but blessed. Jing Yuan says that Lighting Lord was passed down to him when he became general.
The thing is, blackswan already confirmed Jingyuan as an emanator with the “emanators clashing is often destructive” (something along those lines) line if you payed attention to the 2.2 story during the dream sequence.
@@nooberthk Black Swan didn't say that Jing Yuan is an Emanator, she said that it is a clash between a power similar to emanator. Harmonious Ode is like one step closer to becoming Emanator and Dan Heng being a direct blood of Long an Aeon ofc has a power almost the same as an Emanator plu Jing Yuan's Lightning Lord matching that power.
@@nooberthk The lightning lord is just a spirit bestowed by Lan it's more of a blessing of an Aeon than a direct drawing of power from the Aeon. Same case with Fu Xuan, her third eye is a blessing from Nous itself but she's not an Emantor.
It is worth noting that this line was literally said in a dream. The same dream where Screwllum said that Herta, Ruan Mei, and Stephen were willing to drop the sim universe just to help out some random planet like penacony. Everyone else was also acting out of character including BS. I don't think we can really use that line of hers as proof. Also, if you replay the cutscenes you will know that BS herself says she only broke out of the dream after looking at our lightcone, which happened after she said that line. @@nooberthk
9:13 she wrote reason in her research notes. She wants to become aeon so she tries to study them. And idea of propagation is really basic, so it is one of the easiest paths to replicate, thats why she tried to make Eminator of Propagation.
@Doflaminguard she could become Aeon of Ascension, helping to guide other new aeons through their ascension and raising up civilizations etc. Would align with her obsessively studying evolution of life and trying to learn how being ascend to emanator and Aeon status
A quick note: the imaginary tree holds separate universes, not galaxies. Its better explained in hi3, but essentially, universes and planets(and galaxy collectively), are seperate. Universes are more like timelines/ a lter nate scenarios while galaxies are all in the same universe. In the tree analogy, universes would be the leaves And galaxies would be the veins on the leaves
I used to think this too but now I do think the Imaginary Tree is made up of infinite "worlds" and not "universes" and the "Hoyoverse" isn't structured like our own universe. The major difference being their scope, none of them are as big as our real life universe but more like pockets of space. The Data Bank confirms the different worlds we visit, like Jarilo-VI and Penacony, are different points on the tree and exist in different space-times and are separated by imaginery space. That's why we need something like the Express, with the power of a path or aeon, to travel between them. Some evidence of this is Bronya Rand and Silver Wolf who are, most likely, variants of each other but exist in the same overall singular universe. Welt also says something along these lines in the Luocha companion mission about potential March 7th expies/variants.
It is actually both worlds and universes, each "leaf" can be as big as a universe or could be a pocket universe as small as even just a tiny room and not just a single planet. You can have universes that closely parallel each other but is a completely separate timeline like the ending of Otto's arc, these are the "healthy leaves" that are powerful and abundant enough to self sustain a whole universe. Or you can have tiny and weak bubble universes that are falling into the Sea of Quanta like Durandal's bubble universe planet, Dr MEI's Moon to Seele's room.
It's separate Galaxy, not Universe. You might wanna play the latest Honkai Impact story. Imaginary Tree is a universe work kinda like a multiverse, you see, Acheron says that iN THIS Universe there are many similar worlds with similar people, Welt pointed out that in other galaxy there could be another March with different fate. Also we already see a different people from different world in hi3, Cocoon of Finality is NOT Cocoon of the universe, it's basically the Cocoon on Earth, there's still other cocoon in planets across the solar system. Vita and Su are the examples of this, Venus and Earth are different world separate by imaginary energy, that made this world have their own continuum space, that's why familiar people and familiar world can exist in this every worlds.
@@dos-kun2490Aeons are universal being and considered as "god" in the honkai universe (like Kiana in Hi3 or outer god in GGZ), they are far beyond Herrschers
@@idontspeakjapanese6289 There is also a Lord Ravager called "Sun Devourer" who ate 1/3rd of Yvanna Chain's stars. The planets that had their stars extinguished would later on be attacked by the Antimatter Legion in total darkness so they practically had no chance of surviving at all. Emanators of Destruction are scary as hell.
37:05 I'm pretty sure Sunday did not usurp it, but willingly took her place as a sacrifice. The game hints that Gopher Wood is actually a Stellaron "So it's not you who manipulates the Dreamscape with Stellaron, but...(the Stellaron that manipulates you/the Dreamscape)" talking to Sunday, trying to corrupt him. If he didn't take Robin's place, it would obviously fall upon her to resist it or fall to its deception. Also, 2.2 closing credits list Gopher Wood as the Dreammaster, and the Dreammaster as Sunday's Servant. Personally, I'm interpreting it as Sunday being able to overpower it and actually control it, unlike Cocolia, since he's likely draws not only upon Ena's power, but Xipe's as well. Should've he ascended to the Aeonhood, he might have ended up assimilating Xipe, as the path of Philosophy seems to be broader, possibly overlapping with Nihility as well.
Wasnt Ruan Mei making the Swarm clone an attempt to understand what an Emanator is? She tried making an Erudition Emanator which turned out to be the little animals and she deemed them failed expirements due to their lack of intelligence. I would think she chose the Propagation Emanator next as she has info on them from the SU and they are supposedly easier to replicate due to the lack of much sentience
@@xeali1that's highly debatable. She drugged us and then sent us to an abandoned part of the space station ALONE and then had this fake promise that she will save us knowing well it will take her 15 minutes to arrive which by then we will be dead already. Also she made a propagation clone, one that multiply constantly. It's the worst choice she could've made. Those monsters could swarm the station and kill everyone. She's a sociapath that lacks empathy and mihoyo did a great job making her an amoral person. Her intentions are bad through and through.
@@xeali1 some people understand that she doesn’t have evil intentions, but that doesn’t really justify resurrecting an Emanator of the Propagation. As a researcher, there’s no way she didn’t know about the history of the Swarm. People dislike her because those of the Propagation are incredibly dangerous (Firefly and her homeland are testaments to this). Even though her intentions weren’t evil, people dislike that she ignored the risks intentionally. Imagine a person wanted world peace, and the way that they went about it was taking away everyone's free will. It’s similar to that. (Or take Sunday for example. He isn’t bad for wanting peace, but he was gonna trap everyone is a dream). You can dislike a person for their actions and not their intentions.
@@xeali1 Her intentions may not be evil but that doesn't mean what she's doing isn't evil, I think trying to revive an emanator of propagation is very evil and dangerous, she just doesn't care, she puts her research before other people.
@@xeali1 Never been evil is indeed correct but the path to hell is paved with good intentions. She's risking the entire population in the space station just to understand a measly concept, and with much less sentience nonetheless. I mean it's good that her intention is not evil but keep the clueless bystander out of it. Conduct her research to somewhere isolated where she won't risk any life except hers.
The giant swarm in the Firefly trailer is just a matured true sting, and we don't even know if the battles that Glamoth fought against the swarm were even during the Swarm Disaster or whether it was just a remnant which is super scary.
I heard the True Sting on Firefly's trailer (and also the one that swallowed Argenti) is called a "Silver Sting", but i may be mixing it up with a different bug
Regarding the Firefly trailer, that thing is not an emanator, just a simple swarm mother. Emanators from the Propagation path are even more massive, being capable of easily destroying stars and converting them into incubators for more bugs. Also Tayzzyronth is not dead, they were solely imprisoned in amber (albeit in pieces) by Qlipoth after being defeated, so the Aeon of propagation could return in the future.
Honestly feels like Elation as a whole is mostly about having fun. Like doing things for shits and giggles regardless if the actions done are "bad" or "good" or how much chaos it makes.
the reason phantylia lost is because elio choose to change the future outcome. in the original outcome like kafka told us, luofu lost half of its population before the stellaron sealed and phantyllia may not even reveal herself since danshu wouldn't call her out.
No, Elio is not changing the outcome. "We", as a player changed the outcome because we went to Luofu instead of going directly to Penacony. Elio is "predicting".
@@suverin007 Elio changed it with The Nameless as a proxy. He send Kafka to change Astral Express destination. He can see multiple future scenario, but he choose this one so the Xianzhou Alliance will lend their power to Trailblazer in the future.
He didn’t change the outcome. The future was already set in stone. That’s the whole point of “destiny”. We’ve been told many times that no one defies the script, meaning even if the Stellaron hunters didn’t tell them, it would still have occurred.
@@jade7631You can change your "destiny" tho sometimes.For example,in the start of the game,you can choose to stay in the space station,but you Will just get a small custcene about your life in the space station and the game will restart.
Idk if yall understood in the storyline but acheron became an emanator not because ix gazed upon her but she became on after escaping IX or its shadow and no one can do that thats how she gained IXs emanator now showing each person the river as a guide
kinda crazy how similar Acheron status as an emnator of nihility to be like elysia's herrscher form their are basically anomalies both should not have existed but here they are and I feel like we are gonna get more playable paths in the future i mean it would be ashame if we arent getting equilibrium or finality as playable paths
I think it’s very important to place a more important emphasis on what being an Emanator really means. These individuals aren’t just chosen by Aeons, the actual significance of Emanators is their access to the Path. Aeons are like an ocean, Pathstriders are like a drop. Emanators just simply cannot exceed an Aeon’s capability, they are simply given access of some degree to that ocean. Aha the Elation gives us two very intriguing examples of this access to the ocean. The Worm Emanator, and the Mourning Actors. Aha wanted to see if a Worm could become a Genius Society member, and supplied it with the access to the whole Path of Elation, and this access was soon stripped of them. And this access is determined by that Aeon’s reason for doing so, usually following their Path. As for the Mourning Actors, they were against Elation, and in turn, Aha blessed them with the path of Elation since They believe that Tragedy and Joy are two sides of the same coin known as Elation. (So, I guess this means that the Path of Elation isn’t an ocean, but rather a coin? Kinda joking here, kinda serious here.) However, if Tragedy is indeed a value of Elation, then … shouldn’t the Mourning Actors naturally have been following the Path of Elation, and wouldn’t of needed the Aeon themselves to directly bless them? This makes me realize that all of the Aeons have the ability to bless certain individuals with some extent to that Ocean if they so choose to be so specific. This could explain how some Aeons and their Paths function. Nihility’s Ocean is accessible to all, because IX simply won’t stop anyone from trying to obtain it, however this Path is just inherently extraordinarily dangerous, but the access to this ocean is still completely public, for anyone willing to achieve Emanatorhood of Nihility is freely granted to try. Long’s Scions and the Path of Permanence is probably something of the same extent. The Imbibitor Lunae is freely permitted to access this ocean as extensive as they’re capable of doing, but when they perish, and are reborn, this process is completely reset. But still, this would entail that Dan Heng, while not being an Emanator of Permanence, is freely granted the opportunity to achieve such Emanatorhood. The Emanator of Propagation was obviously as explained, granted access to this ocean of Propagation, I doubt that Tayzzyronth would’ve restrained any Swarm from this Path to any extent. We’ve also been told that the Propagation is only meant for those who seek to solely procreate, anyone who believes in anything more, is insignificant. So, the Propagation and Permanence seems to be solely for the Swarm and Vidyadhara. Being granted an Aeon’s gaze and becoming an Emanator sounds very exciting, no doubt about that. However, let’s not forget that when it comes to it, Emanators aren’t the only ones being granted access to the Path to some extent. Sure, their access will very likely not amount to the Emanator’s, but still, access to this ocean is determined by the Aeon. Follow the Path, and accept whatever drop you become. Being granted access to this Path, you will potentially achieve much more than just a drop.
Also, getting an Aeon gaze does not *always* equal becoming an Emanator, you might also get a gift or something, but not become an Emanator. Oh and anyone can walk any path, if the want to. But i think your comment is great btw
If you consider that Sparkle has literally gone insane through her own mimicking ability, Aha could very well have granted her the ability and some extra power after seeing Sparkle gradually turning into the Joker
im still surprised ruan mei is not running super fast to take an interview of sunday to find out how he became this close to revive an aeon, and this is part of her speciality as well
so they trapped the bug in amber? honestly, that reminds me a bit of Jurassic Park... I wonder if someone (Ruan Mei perhaps?) would find and extract Tazzy's DNA to revive them...
One possible emanator people seem to overlook is Luocha. At one point during the Loufu story, I believe Jing Yuan mentioned that only an emanator would be able to sneak a stelleron onto the ship and at the end of that arc, it was basically confirmed that Luocha was the one who smuggled it. It's not confirmed and I could be remembering it wrong, but I just wanted to mention it anyways Also I'm pretty sure all Genius Society members are technically emanators. When you first meet nous in Gold and Gears, the members talk about seeing Nous again. Also the reason Dr. Ratio isn't in the Genius Society is because Nous hasn't gazed upon him, making it a requirement to join the society
Glances, do not correlate to being an Emanator. Our Trailblazer has received the glances of 3 Aeons now, Destruction, Preservation, and Harmony. Yet no one has called us an Emanator yet, and I think they would have by now. Especially the Express Crew, Welt definitely would talk to us about it, and the responsibility surrounding that, after all he is a Herrscher, which is the HI3rd equivalent of HSR's Emanators.
Dr Ratio is already under Nous. He is part of the Intelligentsia Guild, a faction that follows the path of Eruditon. He is just a delegate for the IPC is all.
@@_Pathstrider_ *ackshually* ☝️🤓, Herrschers are closer to Aeons, seen as the Herrscher of Finality can move through time and space freely, rewrite history and i *think* straight up reset the timeline
The Trailblazer came into contact with the Preservation and touched his lance. Also Xipe was shown to smile when she gained the power of Harmony. Per definition the Trailblazer should be an emenator of those paths.
Even cooler: for the trailblazer to use the power of a path, they are gazed at by their aeon. The Trailblazer is technically an emanator on every path they wield
Tbh, i kinda agree with this. If the condition to become an Emanator is to be gaze upon by Aeon, then Trailblazer should be one but what contradicts it is Trailblazer doesn't have destructive power or anything special even though the Aeons have gaze upon them. All i can think is maybe the Aeons just give them access to their paths.
a glance and becoming an eminator aren't the same thing. there are several levels to the power of people who follow paths >firstly there's basic path striders, these aren't people who received a glance but who take up the path by their own will (excluding nihility) >next there's those who recieve a glance by an aeon, this can be either non path striders, those following a different path, or even those of the same path they receive a glance from. and merely being looked at by an aeon is enough to gain power from them. >then something slightly separate from it but still belonging to paths is receiving blessings from an aeon. an example would be fu xaun's third eye, also the giant future seeing computer she is in charge of, the design for that was also a blessing. there are several examples of this, some people believe the generals power is a blessing rather then being an eminator or something ese. >and finally you have eminators, ones who act as the arms and legs of an aeon in a sense. they share values so closely with the aeon that the aeon gives them some of their power to act for them. there are some exceptions, like the eminators who go against their aeon, but there are various reasons for this. the most well known ones are elation and nihility(acheron), which is interesting since both paths have a similar mind set "nothing in the universe matters so (do nothing/do anything you want and have fun)". the idea of a god of fun giving power to someone who wants to kill the fun is kinda fun in its self. >also above all of those you have the aeon its self/the path/end of the path.
@@xXzman9000XxIsnt Jingyuan and Danheng emenators as well? It was mentioned briefly by Blackswan (but danheng isnt a full emenator due his his molting rebirth and bailu). I think he’s the only emenator of the hunt on the Xianzhou, but im not sure if he follows the path of the hunt that closely.
@@Fuphu Dan heng is more of a descendant of Long the permanence rather than an emanator, I believe that the vidiadrya are said to be children of long though I may be incorrect
I thought that what happened in Sunday’s fight is that he was absorbing both Harmony and Order and he was about to ascend to aeonhood himself (probably becoming the aeon of Philosophy, since that was the description in his third form)
Bad luck for Duke Inferno, the Annihilation Gang were trying to slay an Aeon and their target is IX, they tried to Assassinate IX thinking it was an easy target, till they faced an Emanator(Acheron)
You can read it in Simulated Universe about the Aeons, the Annihilation Gang were attempting to assassinate IX, they wanted to be the first to kill an Aeon
It wasnt Duke Inferno's group who fought IX tho. Annihilation Gang has many sub factions, like the Jepella's Brotherhood that was deceived and destroyed from the inside by the Stellaron Hunters.
I def believe that Sampo is an emanator of Elation. Both known playable emanators so far (Acheron and Jing Yuan) have been rated by Herta's rating pistol as "Rating invalid" and so has Sampo, and we know that Boothill ran into an emanator of Elation recently and we know that Sampo and Sparkle have both been around Penacony recently. It would make sense to me that the rating pistol measures connection to paths in some kind of way and can't comprehend emanators. I think the only other characters that are "rating invalid" are March 7th and Luocha, both characters we basically know nothing about, so they definitely have the possibility of being emanators
My theory given March's looks (and the damn signature pose) is that March is actually Kiana's expy in the HSR universe, so the rating is invalid because March is (probably) stupid(ly overpowered)
Loucha is probably an emanator cause you can't deny that guy was discrete and OP on many levels. Like guy basically sneaked a whole Stellaron aboard which even JY said that only Emantor could sneak a Stellaron so perfectly without JY notice. Also still no idea about what tf he carries in that box, also I remembered that even Jingliu and bkade vaguely mentioned about him. Also the fact that he knows too much about Abundance abominations
Maybe acheron became nihility's emanator because the story of Izumo and Takamigahara is so... futile, so meaningless. In their story Izumo and Acheron have struggled so much against Takamigahara, have sacrificed so much for their survival, so much so that only Acheron alone remains in the end. But, after that, it turns out that Izumo and Takamigahara was destined to be destroyed by the black sun of their solar system anyway, that sun being a black hole that is a shadow of IX. I'm sure this fact is pretty f-ing despairing for Acheron. Maybe IX witnessed the futility, despair, and nihility of the struggle from Acheron and her people, and IX glanced at her.
IX is the embodiment of nothingness and it is even ironic that it exists, this was stated on simulated universe I think. It basically does nothing, not even glance on anyone so this may not be the case
It's explained in the story. She drew so much power from nihility that it tainted her, forged her will into her weapon, and drew in even more power from IX. If IX does anything, including gazing upon a mortal, they go against their own path. "Why do anything, if everything is futile?"is a sentence that embodies the path of nihility. For it's aeon to do anything, would destroy it for going against their primus mobile
IX doesn't glance at anyone or anything. That's the whole premise of the Aeon. The Aeons are literally incqpable of going against the nature of their path, so your conclusion doesn't make sense at all. However, Acheron has been tainted so much by the shadow of IX that she became a part of it and is now able to draw power from Nihility. Traditionally, the amount of power an Emanator has access to is regulated by their respective Aeon (power directly granted BY the Aeon), but because IX doesn't care, there is no definitive answer as to how much power Acheron can draw from IX.
@@CyberDragonVTso a way of thinking could be, she drew so much of power Ie thread so much on the path of nihility due to the meaningless war and because she walked down the path of something so meaningless and managed to get out of this black hole, she drew power from this nihility?
Actually, Acheron’s first blade wasn’t created from the Sovereign of Revelation. She wielded the 3rd Sentinel - “Howl”, created from an unnamed beast. Just a small nitpick from a Raiden Mei fangirl.
44:50 In his hobbies voice line, Misha actually mentions the All-Devouring Narwhal. He talks about a magazine he reads, and says that the most recent one has an article about a whale that eats entire planets. At first, I thought this was just a fun throwaway line as a nod to Genshin, but thinking about it now, you might be onto something with it being an emanator. I wonder if it'll show up in HSR in the future.
@@TheGamerChronicles999 I'm pretty sure Sampo didn't break the fourth wall at the end of belabog, I aways assumed he was detailing and broadcasting the happenings going on the planet based on all the machines and equipment around him and his line of 'Say hi to all the people in tavern', which refers to the masked fools usually. Added on the fact, Sparkle directly mentions that she shouldn't have fully believed all of Sampo's info on the trailblazer and how he may have embellished it to much. Going based on that, Sampo wasn't a native of the planet and arrived there to stay as many native Belabogings mention how he one day just appeared and so he would access to off world technology before it actually opened back up to the universe.
@@azedenfender880he did break the 4th wall. Yes, he was probably talking to the masked fool at first at the end of belebog when he said : ‘ Well, bye for now. Send my regards to the guys and the girls in the tavern. Oh, and don’t forget to say that Sampo Koski will catch them for the next one. Time to make my curtain call.’ This sentence is implying to the masked fools, since it is ‘guys and girls in the TAVERN.’ But after that he says :’ To you, my dear audience. I dedicate my performance… I wonder, Did I bring a little more joy into ur lives? you don’t have to answer that - but if the answer is no, then u’ll break my heart.’ Implying to us, the audience. u can go check it if u want. Also, even if he hasn’t broken the 4th wall, he is still heavily implied to be a emanator, for example: when we went to belebog, the first person we meet is Sampo, hiding himself in the snow. Then after that, bc of him, we meet Gepard, which led us to meet Cocolia, then he takes us to the underworld and Bronya follows us, THEN we takes us to Svarog and runs away AGAIN. Imo it is not a coincidence. Also, we met him on every planet we went to ( we don’t count Herta’s Space Station cause it is not a planet ) first: Belebog, he was the first person we meet and led us to the end. second: Xianzou, welp, we didn’t meet him face to face but he sent us a little ‘surprise’ there. Third, Penacony, unlike Xianzou, he didn’t leave us any ‘surprise’ there but he actually was there, if u played Black Swan’s story quest you would see him, if we meet him in the next planet then it is not a coincidence anymore, for sure.
@@pootypootytangtang4k that’s correct and aeon has to actively choose to give someone the power of an emanator if an aeon is dead, there is 0% chance of an emanator of that path existing
Fun fact : Back then in 2022 Honkai Impact 3rd v6.2 added a new location which was the location where the final battle between The Flamechasers vs Herrscher of *Finality* took place in. The CN translation of the location is called "Terminus Crater"
I feel like the enigma embraces the saying "ignorance is bliss", because there are a couple mentions in game (i think?) saying that the followers of the enigma don't necessarily do what they do to cause chaos, or rather that some things are meant to stay unknown which could be why they actively try to stop the erudition, which wants to find the truth of everything
Sunday using the Harmony to enforce the power of the Order to create a dream without aeons only to (almost) become an aeon himself is so funny to me. He's so silly Side note, I think that he is technically closer to the Harmony than even he realizes (or wants to be). Dreammaster calls him and Robin "twins of the harmony" (I already forgot the quote) and both of them possess tuning ability (Robin used it on TB at the start of Penacony and Sunday later tells us it's the same thing when he brings us into his mind). He (and presumably Robin) can literally enforce that other harmonic chord directly calling on the power of Xipe (Ena is not a triple faced soul). Yes I'm still hoping he will be quantum harmony whenever he's playable lol Honestly I'm glad you spoke about the generals of the Xianzhou because how else can you take the statement but that they are emanators? They literally work in tandem directly with their aeon, similarly to the lord ravagers.
Black swan is not an emanator. Welt gave a passing line that she may be, but basing it on how the curio in Herta s station scores the assumed and known emanators, she doesn’t seem to be one
But in the story Black Swan says every memokeeper is an emanator of the Remembrance. So the rating pistol can't rate emanators that have proper combat capabilities (Black Swan is probably weak outside of the dream world canonically, i didn't get the chance to read her character story)
@@otaviom6480 No, she says that emanator give up their body, memokeepers also give up their body, but we don't know if all memokeepers are emanators, if some are or if giving up their body is just a trait they share.
@@Vermichu_realwell it could be that as seen in the mini-pompom mission things? In one, March borrows the rating pistol, and uses it on Pompom, the result was said to be 1/10, could be power likely since March loves her captain!
I think IX is rlly the strongest Aeon. The fact that everyone can be affected by Nihility (subconsciously) by just simply losing hope or doubting one’s meaning or existence proves that IX is scary (not to mention gazing upon the Aeon makes them lose hope or give up on what they’re doing). I think anyone despite being loyal pathstriders of a certain path can succumb to thoughts of Nihilism. It’s really fortunate that the path of that Aeon bounds itself to be indifferent because otherwise, IX’s actions will have catastrophic effects to the universe such as civilizations and life declining or planets ceasing to exist because they will end up swallowed by IX. This is why Acheron is so powerful because IX’s power and reach is simply incomprehensible.
I want to state that the only confirmed playable Emanator which is Acheron, only she has a different ultimate button with a new playstyle than any other character playable in the game. The game did state that all the generals where blessed with the hunt but didn't state if they where Emanators. Jin Yuan was blessed with Lightning Lord which is comparable to an Emanator, however he himself isn't an Emanator since it took a group to defeat phantiliya and they where all struggling against her. In the end it was the lightning Lord who gave the final blow alongside dan heng. Im pretty sure other Emanators will also get a different ultimate button like Acheron in my theory but obviously its not confirmed and just speculation on my part.
Well Phantylia had her own powers plus the power of the Abundance (Ambrosial Arbor) so she was quite amped up. They were struggling hard cause the Arbor made her immortal. That's why the way they defeated her is Jing Yuan linking with Phantylia and then making Dan Heng stab him and sharing the damage
Imagine having an Hybrid Emanator(Sunday) being a member of the Stellaron Hunters(They are so many theories talking about Sunday being a Stellaron Hunter after his defeat)
Being a self-annihilator doesn't mean they are an Emanator of Nihility. Acheron is just built different. Being a self-annihilator is basically being a stage-4 cancer patient, the Nihility is literally eating away at their existence.
@@Huyrroutell that to every character in game saying she’s an emenator… A self annihilator is basically an Emanator…. How come you guys still can’t accept this fact?
@@FD-wl7xq what I was trying to say is the Emanator of Nihility is a self-annihilator, but not all self-annihilator is the Emanator of Nihility. Acheron is an Emanator because she chose to embrace Nihility and walk down the Path and not be consume by it, her willpower is that strong. From the faction description, Self-annihilators are treated as patients or plague carrier, Nihility is a disease that eats away at people's existence and there is no cure.
What is can be killed in the game is the AEON, a manifestation of *Concept*. If Aeon is killed Its Concept remain, concept can not be killed/erased otherwise the whole universe Will collapse.. for example if somehow someone/something erase the concept of destruction, all the thing in universe may became unbreakable which sound nice in someway but actually not at all.. or the concept of abundace is erased all thing in universe cannot heal/repair itself Maybe, idk IM dumb
Except concept can also be hindered. Like in the swam disaster, the thing that Qlipoth's hammer struck wasn't Tayzzyronth, it was the concept of the path itself
@@ultrasuper6353 "you can kill a man, not the idea" Only through the adulteration of the Imaginary Tree itself will one be able to erase a whole concept (maybe that's how Acheron will eliminate the Nihility?)
I just realised something. In SU, Elation is the Path that gives buffs to follow-up attacks. Because a joke consist of... A setup followed by a punchline.
Did everyone just forget that Jing Yuan said that if it were for ANOTHER eminator masking the presence of the stelleron, he would have noticed it being snuck onboard? Doesn't that mean he's saying he's also an eminator?
He's definitely an Emanator. After the fight with Sunday, he says "when 2 Emanators clash things are bound to get out of control" something along those lines. That raises the question of if Sunday is an Emanator, this did happen in the false dream after all
@@NightbreakerytI think it might have been Black Swan that said that(?) but even so, it's heavily implied Sunday is basically emanator status as well (if Robin is, there's no way Sunday can't be). It did happen in the dream but hypothetically the dream would have to play off of our (the crew's) assumptions to fill in the blanks. So that would mean that the crew/everyone would have to think or believe both Sunday and Jing Yuan were emanators.
@@Nightbreakeryt He is not an Emanator, Black swan just said that a clash between a power similar to an Emanator, since Lightning Lord is a blessing from Lan, Dan Heng being s Long's reincarnation or smth and Harmonious Ode is one step closer to becoming Emanator of Order.
@@passive7923 No she didn't lol. She specifically said "When Emanators collide, ordinary people inevitably suffer." There's no "a clash between a power similar to an Emanator." Jing Yuan has always been hinted to be an emanator, even in Pom Pom's guide to Emanators Jing Yuan's Lightning Lord is featured in it.
With the hunt the general position itself draws power from the aeon. Like how the previous xianzou general also had lightning lord (this was in that one heliobus story quest where the heliobus was trying to fight the general) its like a power that comes with the role itself. So pretty much if fu xuan succeeds jing yuan she will gain lightning lord too.
Also small note about Black Swan and Sam noticing her, that's when she realized Sam was somebody she had already authorized too see her and probably made the connection the Sam and Firefly were the same person.
While agreeing with Elio being a prime candidate as an Emanator of Finality, my candidate for Elation wasn't Sampo but rather Sparkle. Sparkle seems to not only hold much greater power than Sparkle, but there is also everything in official videos on Star Rail's channel. In her trailer Monodrama she declared that she IS Elation, and in the more recent curtain call for Penacony she dedicated her performance on Penacony to us, the audience as well.
Idk, maybe? I mean emanators can hide the fact that they are Emanators, for all that we know both sparkle and sampo might as well be emanators, also sampo said something along the lines that sparkle is more insane than him
the more I hear about Aha, the more I want him to be reincarnated in the real world. imagine him seeing this world and trolls us just for the laughs. Damn that will be amazing
For the enigmata if i remember right it does have a concrete goal. It is said that tl;dr the ending of the universe has been forseen, and in order to prevent it, the universe itself needs to be "disguised" in a fog of uncertainty. Very much reminds me of some scp type stuff, much like literally everything in this game
The thing I find most interesting about IX is that THEY would be highly unlikely to be as powerful as THEY are if THEY were capable of emotions like hostility or of consciously favouring emanators like aeons such as Nous. True Nihility is empty and bottomless, and so to truly embody that path means lacking interest in the universe. It simply consumes.
My understanding of the Generals is that the Lord Marshal is an emanator, and he empowers the Generals in a similar to way to Diamond empowering the Stonehearts. So they're not Emanators themselves, but they are on a similar level.
Wingperor is not an Emanator, they will be respected like one, but they are not. Shuhu did not made the Disciple of Sanctus Medicus, Shuhu inspired rather than establishing. Also, Danshu Disciple of Sanctus Medicus is a different organization from the old one. Abundance Emanator are definitely my favorite, that is why I will wait for THEY to appear. I don’t care what form THEY will take. I only care about when THEY will appear. Honestly, we currently only know of one Emanator, but Shuhu is all I need to simp for Yaoshi.
Sampo is indeed the most suspicious and likely candidate to be one of the emanators of elation with not only breaking the 4th wall but somehow involving himself or being mentioned in some way throughout the trailblazers story and seems to be following the astral express with him being mentioned on the loufu and him appearing on penacony.
I think it's so blatantly obvious that Arbiter Generals are Emanators that it's almost laughable. Like you don't just get called "The Arrow of the Reignbow Arbiter" by just being a Pathstrider. Also, remember Lan too was part of the Xianzhou Alliance as a normal human 5000 years ago before he ascended to become an Aeon, he cares about his followers more than any other Aeon because it's his own people and him giving power and allowing the Xianzhou to choose their own Emanators is a really good way to show that he is different from the other warring Aeons. I think the whole Arbiter General Saga is going to be over when FeiXiao and Huaiyan are released
This always confused me. The path of the hunt existed before Lan as it is simply a philosophy, but people say that there cannot be an emanator of a path whose aeon is dead. But the aeon would just be replaced by a new one if it dies. Multiple people can take a philosophy to an extreme. The power comes from the path not the aeon. The aeon just has access to all of it. This is what I thought initially.
@@HRune-xs5qxAeons are not immediately replaced, so no that wouldn't really be the case. There are already multiple canonically dead aeons who still have followers of their path, but it's impossible for an emanator to exist for these paths as to be an emanator, you need to have an aeon to give that power. As far as we know, the only way to become an aeon is to ascend, they don't just appear into existence whenever the previous aeon of a path dies. The idea of the path can exist but that path doesn't come into being until someone ascends, the path of the hunt did exist, but Lan embodied it so much he than became the first aeon of the hunt. We don't know what happens if you become an emanator, then your aeon dies. We just know that you cannot BECOME an emanator if the aeon of that path is currently dead.
I think Generals obtained that title since they have blessings of Lan but they are still not an Emanator. I mean Marshal Hua exists, which is a higher rank than the Generals.
Yea there's a lot of arguing over "which part" of a character is an Emanator, which is misstep. When an Aeon gazes upon you, they grant you some power and you become an Emanator. Just a small gaze and Herta became an Emanator and like the Noblesse Worm, it can also be taken away like nothing, causing it to die, the gaze is a borrowed temporary power. All of Luofu's generals are Emanators because they borrowed power from Lan through entities like the Lightning Lord, that is the manifestation of Lan's gaze itself. The Lightning Lord is a temporary power that can be granted, taken away and passed down to others, as transient as a gaze.
Once we get to the point that the game actually tries explaing the Imaginary Tree/Quantum Sea we're gonna have a whooooole other basket of fish to categorise lol
It's canon that at one point there's the most powerful emanator in the universe and it's a worm. (It's the strongest because Aha put all of his power into it unlike other emanator)
There's a point scoring gun curio on Herta space station that rates playerable characters from 1-100, currently all confirmed Emanators (Jingyuan, Acheron, not including Herta puppet) would cause the gun to malfunction and not give a score, which is a very coincidental. Going by this logic, another characters that can not be rated is Sampo (Maybe also Emanator?), but Gallagher and Black Swan did receive a rating which is very interesting
Correction: Sliver wolf's rating goes beyond 100 (she's 110), Clara was rated twice, DHIL got his rating with a ? after the score and i also missed Locha who also didn't receive a score.
@@neonexus1897The fact is that others get rating of some sort while Emantors don't. Cause if you think about it Sampo is basically a perfect guy to be an Emanator for Aha. He's prime canditate. Like the guy is a walking joke. You can argue about Sparkle being same but not exactly cause we know that Sparkle only likes to mess around whereas Sampo is kinda like that but not exactly, cause he literally would do things and mess around and then sort them out which matches Aha perfectly. Also Loucha might also be an Emanator cause he's the one who actually sneaked the stellaron on Loufu ship and JY said that onky an Emator could that. Also he knows too much about Abomination of Abundance. The one who I feel sus is Black Swan, like if she was an Emanator why wasn't she more active and more able to fight against Sunday cause we know JY could match his power and JY isn't even a confirmed Emantor, he has gotten a gift from Hunt that is LL
Argenti being an emanator of beauty makes sense and makes my heart happy lololol (I hope he is tbh) same w jing yuan being an emanator of the hunt+other generals. W vid.
Jing Yuan confirmed that Sunday and the generals were Emanators towards the end of 2.2 (or atleast that he is an emanator. i would assume that the others are also emanators since they got their power from the same place)
Jing Yuan didn't say that, it was Black Swan and even then she didn't say that JY is Emanator, she just said that his power can almost rival an Emanator. Also don't forget that Dan Heng's dragon and JY's lightning lord attack at the same time.
@@passive7923Not all Emanator are the same strength, you just need to be one to fight against one, which JingYuan fought against Phantylia. Also, don’t forget Welt said the Xianzhou seven Arbitors Generals not inferior to the lord ravagers of Nanook, and they have destroyed suns and galaxies on a massive scale before.
@@jade7631but doesn't that statement from BlackS kinda puts her in a fraud list. Cause she said "a clash between Emanators is always catastrophic" or something along those lines. But If she was an Emanator herself than why wasn't she able to do something similar and be more active and strong in fight against Sunday rather than betting on Acheron and TB to do that.
genius societey, or xianjou general is just like stone corner holder, they are holder of the power or maybe got the gaze of aeons, but i think they are not the emanator them self. ex: known preservation emanator right now is diamond, but s/he shared his/her power with the other trough the stone corner holder.
There is actually one known character that is an emanator of multiple Aeons. Catching the gazes of Nanook, Qlippoth and Xipe and being able to draw power from their paths as needed and desired. Yes, I'm talking about the MC. A pathstrider gaining power by drawing the gaze of an Aeon is the definition of an Emanator after all...
I'm going to guess that Acheron might get a new form. Once she gets in touch with the Doctors of Chaos and finally gets to be able to rid herself of the Nihility, she could embody the power of Finality and become its true emanator. The "find me, your end, my origin" lines from her trailer are still unsolved mysteries in this universe other than being HI3 callbacks. She hallucinated Robin in her make-up ad as someone else who is important to her story because of Sparkle's tricks. Possibly her Kiana of this game.
I think it was confirmed both Jing Yuan and Sunday are Eminators by Black Swan when she was recapping what actually happened during the first fight with Sunday. She said that when Eminators clash, it is bound to have a large impact on the area and people around them, in reference to Jing Yuan attack on Sunday.
Well, yes, and no Sunday is not anymore anyway and Jing Yuan has the power of one thanks to lightning lord but he was not selectively chosen it’s rather just something that he gets as being the general
@@jade7631 well, he is an aeon and we have no clue how wide their powers are. I doubt a fusion would be out of the question.....Or him being the train's engine/heart....donno. I do have a sneaky feeling that PomPom knows more than he is willing to share
Jing Yuan is pretty much confirmed to be an Emanator. After the first fight with Sunday in Penacony, when Dan Heng and Jing Yuan attack Sunday together, Welt calls it a "clash of Emanators". Also Black Swan's status as an Emanator is debatable, since while Welt called the Memokeepers "Emanators of Remembrance", thats pretty much the only evidence of BS being an Emanator, while Jing Yuan for example has plenty of evidence. ALSO also Black Swan wasn't immune to Ena's dream. The only reason she discovered was because of our memories of Misha in the Reverie Hotel, otherwise she was oblivious to it like everyone else. The only reason Acheron was immune was because of The Nihility. Since THEY ignore everyone and everything, even other Aeons have no power over THEM (and by extension, THEIR Emanator, Acheron).
All the generals of the the Alliance are 100% Emanators. Idk why people are so adverse to accepting Jing Yuan as an Emanator. The generals received powers (e.g., Lightning Lord for the Luofu General) from Lan, and while they are only Emanators for being generals, they are still Emanators nonetheless. Feixiao and Huaiyan are also emanators.
@@rinrainaozora4254 people are "adverse" because the game isn't being clear at all. Why wouldn't it be mentioned directly at this point, especially since it's such an important title? Why does no one, EVER, refer to him directly as an Emanator? Why beat around the bush? Hell, in any of his promotional material, why wasn't it stated ONCE?
@@equalopportunity2048 ah, that makes sense. I hate when Hoyo is being too dodgy about the lore (HCQ lore is full of that bc we still don’t know exactly what happened). I wonder if it’s because of the generals being temporary Emanators.
@rinrainaozora4254 agreed. The generals could be a situation similar to the Stonehearts, where Platinum is the only true Emanator but the others borrow the power of an Emanator.
Eminence of Xianzhu generals is a dubious spot in the lore. In Ena’s dream, Black Swan called Jing Yuan and Harmonious Choir Sunday “Emanator” in quote. So I think like how Sunday is not the emanator but is “using” one aka the embodiment of Harmony, one of the harmonious choirs. The supreme tuner Dominicus. I believe Jing Yuan has the blessing of the lightning lord who is the emanator here. Also, the history fictionologists are mentioned in the data bank as emantors and Welt says that memokeepers are emantors but Gallagher mentioned in the story that manipulating and maintaining the dreamscape requires the power of a Remembrance or Enigmata emanator which I think excludes himself and Black Swan. The only ones that have emphasis put on their emanator status was Acheron.
I am an emanator of Finality and I came from the future to say you will have a great day 😊 Which Emanator is your favourite?
Acheron 🙏
This is obviously a Enigamata propaganda
@@idontspeakjapanese6289i dont think enigmata spreads lies
@@aomafura3374 Enigmata is all about mystifying and concealing the truth of something, therefore the art of lying is still part of the philosophy of Enigmata
Honestly I like to think that one day we will get an ICE type emanator of equilibrium being an allusion to the prevalence of Initial Change Equilibrium tables and equilibrium in chemistry. That will definitely be my favorite emanator due to the relatability to real life.
Aha turning a worm into an emanator and then killing it must be one of the most darkest humors the Elation has done
Probably less then when aha destroyed half a planet and astral express just to mess with akiveli
...They're just Joker and Batman aren't they?@firstservantofmumeiguardia6963
i read it somewhere but i think the joke that make aha ascend to aeon is when he saw a baby fall from hill and the laugh so hard
@@kangpisang Why do I have a feeling that baby was Nanook when he was still human, that would've been hilarious if that was true, Aha was already trolling Nanook even as a baby LMFAO
@@kangpisang The story goes that THEY climbed to the top of the Imaginary Tree to see alll of existance at once, saw how everything was a giant simulation and probably well on THEIR way to fall into Nihility, and the saw a baby fall of their bed and started to cry, makin THEM laugh (which was heard across the universe since, you know, THEY were at the top of *existence*) and giving THEM the realization that everything is just a giant comedy in the making and how tragedy can bring laughtef, ascending to Aeonhood in the process.
Herta : Kuru Kuru
Erudition : yep I like it give her the power
I would do the same if I were Nous tho
@@RamsitoDaGoat also dont forget herta is very simp of ruan mei..
That’s herta’s dolls though not her, the actual emanator, herself
@@Pewpewpewdamnnnnnhegotshot Herta has so many dolls of herself that when her dolls attack its basically a follow up attack lol.
Herta might just be an old lady, and why do I feel she has a stronger puppet hidden somewhere for dire situations that's ultra powerful that she herself links to and that might be 5 star herta
Boothill met an unnamed emanator of Elation and said emanators on the surface look no different from the rest
Sampo looking sussy as usual.
@@Ginonth BOOTHILL MET SAMPO SAMPO IS ELATION EMANATOR WE WILL GET 5 STAR SAMPO IN 3.X I KNOW IT
@@beigelbitessampo mentioned
He stated that the said Emanator looks like a clown.
Probably it's mannerism or perhaps it desses like one.
@@beigelbitesMANIFESTING ‼️‼️
"Go spread misinformation" Enigmata basically
I bet my ass thats also misinformation.
So they represent the path of the Internet?
Arent they destroy information, not spread misinformation?
@@aomafura3374technically the same thing since the truth gets lost in the misinformation. Both the riddlers and the fictionoligist do anything and everything they can to make sure that no one knows what’s going on
@@aomafura3374 one way to destroy information is to turn it into something it’s not. You can try to destroy information, but more than likely someone will rediscover it. If you can convince people that your lie is the truth that stops most people from even looking.
It is important to note that even if the Aeon dies, the path does not disappear.
ya forsure but that was noted like 5 times in the video lol
Litteraly all of the Astral Express following the Trailblaze path
@@lilysouret4800 Don't forget the Knights of Beauty. I hope Mihoyo adds more of their kind.
Interesting actually, could another person rise up to become the aeon of that path? Or once the aeon's dead it's permanently an aeonless path?
@@dvvnawell sunday cases already shown that someone can take over that parh to be an aeon.. but in sunday case he need many people under the influence of order to make the foundation for the new aeon pop up out from the egg.. hence the hand from sunday boss ultimate
It is more accurate to say that Acheron has just walk farther into the Nihility than the mundane. It was stated that the Nihility envelops everyone equally. And only few have walk farther into it, tainting themselves with more Nihility. In a sense, becoming an Emanator.
everyone was saying Acheron was an Emanator of Finality 😂
The big difference is that Acheron somehow *survived* walking close to IX/Nihility, since everyone else is said to become so unattached to everything that they simply disapear into IX's shadow
I also think that not everyone who taints themselves with Nihility become Emanators. Once you become a Self-Annhilator, you need to have a strong grasp of your own existence, otherwise you'll eventually end up getting devoured.
@@xiangzihuathen explain to me why time went backwards at the start of penecony? That’s literally the authority of finality.She can also change outcomes of dialogue which again is the authority of finality
@@FD-wl7xq Maybe she is an Emanator of both?
Danfeng going rogue and dragging Yingxing with him is what they want us to believe. That's the version Jingliu believes and we know she was hallucinating thanks to Shuhu's powers. LalodysLore has a great two part video showing in-game evidence about how Bailu was actually the preceptors' collaborative project with the Sanctus Medicus' disciples in the alchemy commission, and how they framed Danfeng so he could take the fall for all of them, someone disposable for the preceptors since they could no longer keep him under their thumb.
I love this part of the Luofu's history because we have Jingyuan and Jignliu as unreliable narrators, Blade repeating whatever Jingliu groomed into him, Danheng who can't remember a thing for his life, and a bunch of long and boring sanctus medicus experiment logs and other military reports scattered all over to try and maybe make sense of wtf could have happened to the high cloud quintet.
@SordidusFellatio only lore enthusiasts who are willing to sacrifice their time and sanity
@SordidusFellatiome, only when i'm out of trailblaze power though
OMG A FELLOW LALODYSLORE ENJOYER!!! YES PREACH BESTIE PREACH!!
@SordidusFellatioWhenever you run across them is only way to read them without getting bogged down, there's way too many on the Luofu.
People like Ladylore go back and read them carefully from the archive tho
@SordidusFellatioI read a couple, especially if it's tied to a character or concept I find interesting, but otherwise not so much.
On the plus side I now know the different kinds of performance art on the Loufu
The Enigmata do what they do because of what IRL is called Laplace's Demon. Basically, in classical physics if you know all the laws of physics and the position of every atom and particle you can predict the future which means free will does not exist. The Enigmata believe that as long as Nous does not know everything about the universe then there is still room for free will.
Never thought of that, and never understood the reasoning of the Enigmata
Holy shit thank you!, this deserves a heart
i remembered a book i read improbable by adam fawer, it was explained well there too
This makes the Enigmata makes so much more sense. I thought they were doing it for shits n giggles but I guess that would make them follow the Elation
Then ‘who’ aligned those atom at the first place? 🤔
@@ilnas8242 And that's the reason why God would be an entity that ironically supports free will, because as long as you don't know the alignment of every atom and particle, then the room for free will exists. Ummm game context-wise, I don't think they'd go that far. The highest level of beings established in lore are Aeons because we have a story to tell about them.
Sunday would eventually become the new aeon of order hence the name "Embryo of philosophy Sunday" even Himeko pointed out that he will be the one reigning supreme if Sunday suceeded
Good point so ya guess at the very least he is on emanator level
Yeah Aeon of Philosophy probably
But that only IF he succeeded which is not
He literally lost so no aeonhood for him lol
@@TheGamerChronicles999 Also fun fact Aelenev The Eternal Centurion one of the many embodiments of Xipe and an Emanator scared off the antimatter legion that's why they don't wanna attack Penacony anymore except for the Annihilation Gang which Nanook even hates lol
re: Sampo being am emanator
Boothill also mentions he met an emanator of Aha who was a masked fool, and during Masked Duet he is getting his mask back, and on his way back to Jarilo-VI. imo this hints that we haven't seen him at his full power and will when we return to Belobog.
Which actually makes me think, what sort of catastrophe could be heading that way where Sampo would need to call upon the elations power in order to over come it. I believe it might have something to do with the world now thawing, and countless soldiers of the antimatter legion beginning to unfreeze. It's a ground invasion all over again and the strengths needed to overcome that would likely require an emanator.
Along those lines, its not exactly unlikely that the antimatter legion could be receiving reinforcements to drive belabog into extinction.
@@Adam-sf4wn ikr. I've been worried about Belobog the moment the game revealed Sampo was gonna return to do something. Like, what's going on? isn't that planet already saved? Are we getting another massive Belobog update? While tragedy can bring happiness (Elation), destruction only brings forth destruction so I'd understand if an Elation emanator steps up to save the day. That's what Sparkle did in Penacony for Firefly.
I believe that either there will be a revelation about the true worth of Geomarrow ( because why else would the IPC be so desperate to claim Jarilo VI), or someone from the Annihilation Gang finds Belobog, or Natasha's brother returns and brings some kind of threat with him.
@@nordlux7270 it's also possible the thawing will bring a return of the Anti-Matter Legion. From what I have seen we'll find out in 2.6
During the Phantylia fight, Aha is actually able to be heard laughing in the background as if They're watching you
I'm waiting for another laugh from the upcoming bosses
i’m pretty sure it’s implied many times aha is watching you. especially in the simulated universe, even if you’re presenting as akivili
@@animuswonder
we become an emanator of elation real not fake!11!!!1!!!1!!
One note about Firefly as Sam being able to see Black Swan. She was able to see Black Swan because Black Swan had already allowed Firefly to be capable of seeing her, and had no reason to disallow it. Because Black Swan didn't immediately realize it was Firefly, it caught her off guard. I imagine she put two and two together soon after, though.
where is it mentioned
@duelowiec8973 what do you mean where is it mentioned? Firefly reacts to and can interact with Black Swan when Black Swan takes on the Memory Zone meme.
Or it could be Glamoth technology shinanigans. It’s not emphatically stated why she can see her.
@lolosh99 It could be, but that's not something that's implied. The Iron Cavalry designs wouldn't have any reason to have the ability to view Memetic Entities since they were designed to handle the Swarm. Infrared to see them when they're invisible maybe, but that's not the same way a Memetic Entity works.
Black Swan going in and out of worlds collecting memories undetected and not allowing herself to be seen.
Also Black Swan seeing cool metal robot: "I'll allow it"
I saw somebody from another video say this. I can't find the OP, but essentially, it says that the reason why Acheron is so powerful is probably because unlike other Aeons, IX dosen't give a crap about how much power she draw upon their path.
Ya exactly think I did state that but if the aeon isnt focused on that individual like most aeons are with emanators and they are a black hole they prob dont care
Another reason why Acherons power is beyond absurd:
There are beings in the Hoyoverse called Herrschers (from Honkai Impact 3) who share a similar level of power with emanators (Welt is a former herrscher as well)
There were 14 of them, and each had the power to wipe continents at their prime. The last Herrscher in particular ended civilization.
Now, acheron's sword in particular has the equivalent of the power or authority of all 14 of those beings, all forged into one blade, and amped by the power of Nihility, of which she has unlimited access to.
Cleaving a dream world in half is only a glimpse into her extreme power. She is one being even the Lord Ravagers might fear
What if IX is actually the precursor of the mathematical concept of trigonometric functions because Reiman’s theorem states that e^ix= cosx+ isinx. This means that complex exponential functions (e^ix) yields real trigonometric and complex trigonometric functions. This also foreshadows a force eventually absorbing ix to become e^ix.
@@awesome7006 Excuse me *what*?
@@awesome7006 Dr. Ratio anonymous account
One thing I feel that differentiate between a mortal that is blessed by an Aeon and an Emanator is weather or not the mortal can access the path or not. I'll use Fu Xuan as the biggest example, her third eye is a gift/blessing from the Aeon Nous, however she is not an Emanator of Eruditon(i'm pretty sure she is also not a member of the genius society). Pathstriders can draw power from the paths, an Emanator is given direct access to a portion of the path. A blessing or gift is a portion of power from the path given to the mortal. Using the cooking analogy in the video, pathstriders can cook by drawing the knowledge from the Aeon of cooking, gifts/blessing is the Aeon of cooking giving a recipe to the mortal, While emanators are able to access a part of the Aeon of cooking's kitchen, recipes and equipment. The stonehearts are also an interesting case, Diamond is an Emanator of the Preservation, but they have split their power into stones and distributed them to the stonehearts. The stonehearts could be considered a blessing/gift but the users aventurine,topaz,Jade are not emanators because they do not have access to the path of Preservation. This perseptive also makes the generals of the Xianzhou alliance not Emanators but blessed. Jing Yuan says that Lighting Lord was passed down to him when he became general.
The thing is, blackswan already confirmed Jingyuan as an emanator with the “emanators clashing is often destructive” (something along those lines) line if you payed attention to the 2.2 story during the dream sequence.
@@nooberthkBut what if she was talking about Raiden vs Sunday? Since we know that the general was never actually there
@@nooberthk Black Swan didn't say that Jing Yuan is an Emanator, she said that it is a clash between a power similar to emanator.
Harmonious Ode is like one step closer to becoming Emanator and Dan Heng being a direct blood of Long an Aeon ofc has a power almost the same as an Emanator plu Jing Yuan's Lightning Lord matching that power.
@@nooberthk The lightning lord is just a spirit bestowed by Lan it's more of a blessing of an Aeon than a direct drawing of power from the Aeon. Same case with Fu Xuan, her third eye is a blessing from Nous itself but she's not an Emantor.
It is worth noting that this line was literally said in a dream. The same dream where Screwllum said that Herta, Ruan Mei, and Stephen were willing to drop the sim universe just to help out some random planet like penacony. Everyone else was also acting out of character including BS. I don't think we can really use that line of hers as proof. Also, if you replay the cutscenes you will know that BS herself says she only broke out of the dream after looking at our lightcone, which happened after she said that line. @@nooberthk
9:13 she wrote reason in her research notes. She wants to become aeon so she tries to study them. And idea of propagation is really basic, so it is one of the easiest paths to replicate, thats why she tried to make Eminator of Propagation.
She wont be able to be an Aeon if she is studying how to be one. Ascending into aeonhood is to embody a path wholeheartedly.
Maybe she studies to be able to embody it completely? Plus, with the way she's always creating new lifeforms she does align a lot with propagation
@Doflaminguard she could become Aeon of Ascension, helping to guide other new aeons through their ascension and raising up civilizations etc. Would align with her obsessively studying evolution of life and trying to learn how being ascend to emanator and Aeon status
A quick note: the imaginary tree holds separate universes, not galaxies.
Its better explained in hi3, but essentially, universes and planets(and galaxy collectively), are seperate.
Universes are more like timelines/ a lter nate scenarios while galaxies are all in the same universe.
In the tree analogy, universes would be the leaves
And galaxies would be the veins on the leaves
I used to think this too but now I do think the Imaginary Tree is made up of infinite "worlds" and not "universes" and the "Hoyoverse" isn't structured like our own universe. The major difference being their scope, none of them are as big as our real life universe but more like pockets of space. The Data Bank confirms the different worlds we visit, like Jarilo-VI and Penacony, are different points on the tree and exist in different space-times and are separated by imaginery space. That's why we need something like the Express, with the power of a path or aeon, to travel between them. Some evidence of this is Bronya Rand and Silver Wolf who are, most likely, variants of each other but exist in the same overall singular universe. Welt also says something along these lines in the Luocha companion mission about potential March 7th expies/variants.
It is actually both worlds and universes, each "leaf" can be as big as a universe or could be a pocket universe as small as even just a tiny room and not just a single planet.
You can have universes that closely parallel each other but is a completely separate timeline like the ending of Otto's arc, these are the "healthy leaves" that are powerful and abundant enough to self sustain a whole universe.
Or you can have tiny and weak bubble universes that are falling into the Sea of Quanta like Durandal's bubble universe planet, Dr MEI's Moon to Seele's room.
It's separate Galaxy, not Universe. You might wanna play the latest Honkai Impact story. Imaginary Tree is a universe work kinda like a multiverse, you see, Acheron says that iN THIS Universe there are many similar worlds with similar people, Welt pointed out that in other galaxy there could be another March with different fate. Also we already see a different people from different world in hi3, Cocoon of Finality is NOT Cocoon of the universe, it's basically the Cocoon on Earth, there's still other cocoon in planets across the solar system.
Vita and Su are the examples of this, Venus and Earth are different world separate by imaginary energy, that made this world have their own continuum space, that's why familiar people and familiar world can exist in this every worlds.
@@Noaaaa3 are Aeons uhh multiversal entity? Or are they just comparable to Herrschers?
@@dos-kun2490Aeons are universal being and considered as "god" in the honkai universe (like Kiana in Hi3 or outer god in GGZ), they are far beyond Herrschers
never thought about how terrifying phantylia actually is
If she was terrifying for you, then Zephyro will make you shet yow pants
@@idontspeakjapanese6289 There is also a Lord Ravager called "Sun Devourer" who ate 1/3rd of Yvanna Chain's stars. The planets that had their stars extinguished would later on be attacked by the Antimatter Legion in total darkness so they practically had no chance of surviving at all. Emanators of Destruction are scary as hell.
Every time I fight her I can't stop looking at her jugs help me
If that Swam Emanator didnt die after 56 seconds lets see how many Emanator of other path have to come to stop it.
@FirasDuqarael_Zephyro is probably the most powerful non Aeon character right now (so far)
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I'm pretty sure Sunday did not usurp it, but willingly took her place as a sacrifice. The game hints that Gopher Wood is actually a Stellaron
"So it's not you who manipulates the Dreamscape with Stellaron, but...(the Stellaron that manipulates you/the Dreamscape)"
talking to Sunday, trying to corrupt him. If he didn't take Robin's place, it would obviously fall upon her to resist it or fall to its deception.
Also, 2.2 closing credits list Gopher Wood as the Dreammaster, and the Dreammaster as Sunday's Servant. Personally, I'm interpreting it as Sunday being able to overpower it and actually control it, unlike Cocolia, since he's likely draws not only upon Ena's power, but Xipe's as well.
Should've he ascended to the Aeonhood, he might have ended up assimilating Xipe, as the path of Philosophy seems to be broader, possibly overlapping with Nihility as well.
Wasnt Ruan Mei making the Swarm clone an attempt to understand what an Emanator is? She tried making an Erudition Emanator which turned out to be the little animals and she deemed them failed expirements due to their lack of intelligence. I would think she chose the Propagation Emanator next as she has info on them from the SU and they are supposedly easier to replicate due to the lack of much sentience
thats precisely why, her intentions have never been evil but people dont like to listen to the voiced stories.
@@xeali1that's highly debatable. She drugged us and then sent us to an abandoned part of the space station ALONE and then had this fake promise that she will save us knowing well it will take her 15 minutes to arrive which by then we will be dead already. Also she made a propagation clone, one that multiply constantly. It's the worst choice she could've made. Those monsters could swarm the station and kill everyone. She's a sociapath that lacks empathy and mihoyo did a great job making her an amoral person. Her intentions are bad through and through.
@@xeali1 some people understand that she doesn’t have evil intentions, but that doesn’t really justify resurrecting an Emanator of the Propagation. As a researcher, there’s no way she didn’t know about the history of the Swarm. People dislike her because those of the Propagation are incredibly dangerous (Firefly and her homeland are testaments to this). Even though her intentions weren’t evil, people dislike that she ignored the risks intentionally.
Imagine a person wanted world peace, and the way that they went about it was taking away everyone's free will. It’s similar to that. (Or take Sunday for example. He isn’t bad for wanting peace, but he was gonna trap everyone is a dream). You can dislike a person for their actions and not their intentions.
@@xeali1 Her intentions may not be evil but that doesn't mean what she's doing isn't evil, I think trying to revive an emanator of propagation is very evil and dangerous, she just doesn't care, she puts her research before other people.
@@xeali1 Never been evil is indeed correct but the path to hell is paved with good intentions.
She's risking the entire population in the space station just to understand a measly concept, and with much less sentience nonetheless.
I mean it's good that her intention is not evil but keep the clueless bystander out of it. Conduct her research to somewhere isolated where she won't risk any life except hers.
Gordon Ramsey, the Emanator of Culinarian, the most blessed and appreciated recipe provider... Although a bit furiously tempered.
The giant swarm in the Firefly trailer is just a matured true sting, and we don't even know if the battles that Glamoth fought against the swarm were even during the Swarm Disaster or whether it was just a remnant which is super scary.
It's just the revenant, when the swarm was activ emenaters like star crusher can destroy stars and using as breeding bed
Yeah the actual emanators can shoot lasers and are as big as stars...
Glamoth was actually really really lucky because if the Swarms were led by Emanators of Propagation, it would've been a one-sided slaughter
I heard the True Sting on Firefly's trailer (and also the one that swallowed Argenti) is called a "Silver Sting", but i may be mixing it up with a different bug
@@randomperson3119 yeah, I also thought that was an Emanator in that video until I was reminded of the planet-level threat of them.
Regarding the Firefly trailer, that thing is not an emanator, just a simple swarm mother.
Emanators from the Propagation path are even more massive, being capable of easily destroying stars and converting them into incubators for more bugs.
Also Tayzzyronth is not dead, they were solely imprisoned in amber (albeit in pieces) by Qlipoth after being defeated, so the Aeon of propagation could return in the future.
Honestly feels like Elation as a whole is mostly about having fun. Like doing things for shits and giggles regardless if the actions done are "bad" or "good" or how much chaos it makes.
the reason phantylia lost is because elio choose to change the future outcome.
in the original outcome like kafka told us, luofu lost half of its population before the stellaron sealed and phantyllia may not even reveal herself since danshu wouldn't call her out.
No, Elio is not changing the outcome. "We", as a player changed the outcome because we went to Luofu instead of going directly to Penacony. Elio is "predicting".
@@suverin007 but it's because elio make kafka told us that we went to luofu so it still because of him
@@suverin007 Elio changed it with The Nameless as a proxy. He send Kafka to change Astral Express destination. He can see multiple future scenario, but he choose this one so the Xianzhou Alliance will lend their power to Trailblazer in the future.
He didn’t change the outcome. The future was already set in stone. That’s the whole point of “destiny”. We’ve been told many times that no one defies the script, meaning even if the Stellaron hunters didn’t tell them, it would still have occurred.
@@jade7631You can change your "destiny" tho sometimes.For example,in the start of the game,you can choose to stay in the space station,but you Will just get a small custcene about your life in the space station and the game will restart.
Idk if yall understood in the storyline but acheron became an emanator not because ix gazed upon her but she became on after escaping IX or its shadow and no one can do that thats how she gained IXs emanator now showing each person the river as a guide
kinda crazy how similar Acheron status as an emnator of nihility to be like elysia's herrscher form their are basically anomalies both should not have existed but here they are and I feel like we are gonna get more playable paths in the future i mean it would be ashame if we arent getting equilibrium or finality as playable paths
if those paths were to be playable...what mechanic in game you think they'll be? like propagation for basic attacks, erudition for ultimates...
I think it’s very important to place a more important emphasis on what being an Emanator really means. These individuals aren’t just chosen by Aeons, the actual significance of Emanators is their access to the Path. Aeons are like an ocean, Pathstriders are like a drop. Emanators just simply cannot exceed an Aeon’s capability, they are simply given access of some degree to that ocean.
Aha the Elation gives us two very intriguing examples of this access to the ocean. The Worm Emanator, and the Mourning Actors.
Aha wanted to see if a Worm could become a Genius Society member, and supplied it with the access to the whole Path of Elation, and this access was soon stripped of them. And this access is determined by that Aeon’s reason for doing so, usually following their Path.
As for the Mourning Actors, they were against Elation, and in turn, Aha blessed them with the path of Elation since They believe that Tragedy and Joy are two sides of the same coin known as Elation. (So, I guess this means that the Path of Elation isn’t an ocean, but rather a coin? Kinda joking here, kinda serious here.) However, if Tragedy is indeed a value of Elation, then … shouldn’t the Mourning Actors naturally have been following the Path of Elation, and wouldn’t of needed the Aeon themselves to directly bless them? This makes me realize that all of the Aeons have the ability to bless certain individuals with some extent to that Ocean if they so choose to be so specific.
This could explain how some Aeons and their Paths function. Nihility’s Ocean is accessible to all, because IX simply won’t stop anyone from trying to obtain it, however this Path is just inherently extraordinarily dangerous, but the access to this ocean is still completely public, for anyone willing to achieve Emanatorhood of Nihility is freely granted to try.
Long’s Scions and the Path of Permanence is probably something of the same extent. The Imbibitor Lunae is freely permitted to access this ocean as extensive as they’re capable of doing, but when they perish, and are reborn, this process is completely reset. But still, this would entail that Dan Heng, while not being an Emanator of Permanence, is freely granted the opportunity to achieve such Emanatorhood.
The Emanator of Propagation was obviously as explained, granted access to this ocean of Propagation, I doubt that Tayzzyronth would’ve restrained any Swarm from this Path to any extent. We’ve also been told that the Propagation is only meant for those who seek to solely procreate, anyone who believes in anything more, is insignificant. So, the Propagation and Permanence seems to be solely for the Swarm and Vidyadhara.
Being granted an Aeon’s gaze and becoming an Emanator sounds very exciting, no doubt about that. However, let’s not forget that when it comes to it, Emanators aren’t the only ones being granted access to the Path to some extent. Sure, their access will very likely not amount to the Emanator’s, but still, access to this ocean is determined by the Aeon. Follow the Path, and accept whatever drop you become. Being granted access to this Path, you will potentially achieve much more than just a drop.
Also, getting an Aeon gaze does not *always* equal becoming an Emanator, you might also get a gift or something, but not become an Emanator.
Oh and anyone can walk any path, if the want to.
But i think your comment is great btw
I feel like Sparkle could also totally be an Emanator of Elation, she's so chaotic and doesn't really care about anything except her Elation
all masked fools only care for elation
If you consider that Sparkle has literally gone insane through her own mimicking ability, Aha could very well have granted her the ability and some extra power after seeing Sparkle gradually turning into the Joker
I think because that she's so elated that aha won't give her elation
im still surprised ruan mei is not running super fast to take an interview of sunday to find out how he became this close to revive an aeon, and this is part of her speciality as well
The order was absorbed by the harmony. It did not die. It exists within the harmony. Keep up
9:45 Its Qlipoth(working with other Aeons). He Stripped the Aeon of Propagation of its power and sealed it in Amber.
so they trapped the bug in amber? honestly, that reminds me a bit of Jurassic Park... I wonder if someone (Ruan Mei perhaps?) would find and extract Tazzy's DNA to revive them...
One possible emanator people seem to overlook is Luocha. At one point during the Loufu story, I believe Jing Yuan mentioned that only an emanator would be able to sneak a stelleron onto the ship and at the end of that arc, it was basically confirmed that Luocha was the one who smuggled it.
It's not confirmed and I could be remembering it wrong, but I just wanted to mention it anyways
Also I'm pretty sure all Genius Society members are technically emanators. When you first meet nous in Gold and Gears, the members talk about seeing Nous again. Also the reason Dr. Ratio isn't in the Genius Society is because Nous hasn't gazed upon him, making it a requirement to join the society
Yeah I don't know why people overlook him
Agree about Luocha. Cannot wait for his continuation story soon.
Glances, do not correlate to being an Emanator. Our Trailblazer has received the glances of 3 Aeons now, Destruction, Preservation, and Harmony. Yet no one has called us an Emanator yet, and I think they would have by now. Especially the Express Crew, Welt definitely would talk to us about it, and the responsibility surrounding that, after all he is a Herrscher, which is the HI3rd equivalent of HSR's Emanators.
Dr Ratio is already under Nous. He is part of the Intelligentsia Guild, a faction that follows the path of Eruditon. He is just a delegate for the IPC is all.
@@_Pathstrider_ *ackshually* ☝️🤓, Herrschers are closer to Aeons, seen as the Herrscher of Finality can move through time and space freely, rewrite history and i *think* straight up reset the timeline
The Trailblazer came into contact with the Preservation and touched his lance. Also Xipe was shown to smile when she gained the power of Harmony. Per definition the Trailblazer should be an emenator of those paths.
Even cooler: for the trailblazer to use the power of a path, they are gazed at by their aeon. The Trailblazer is technically an emanator on every path they wield
Tbh, i kinda agree with this. If the condition to become an Emanator is to be gaze upon by Aeon, then Trailblazer should be one but what contradicts it is Trailblazer doesn't have destructive power or anything special even though the Aeons have gaze upon them. All i can think is maybe the Aeons just give them access to their paths.
a glance and becoming an eminator aren't the same thing.
there are several levels to the power of people who follow paths
>firstly there's basic path striders, these aren't people who received a glance but who take up the path by their own will (excluding nihility)
>next there's those who recieve a glance by an aeon, this can be either non path striders, those following a different path, or even those of the same path they receive a glance from. and merely being looked at by an aeon is enough to gain power from them.
>then something slightly separate from it but still belonging to paths is receiving blessings from an aeon. an example would be fu xaun's third eye, also the giant future seeing computer she is in charge of, the design for that was also a blessing. there are several examples of this, some people believe the generals power is a blessing rather then being an eminator or something ese.
>and finally you have eminators, ones who act as the arms and legs of an aeon in a sense. they share values so closely with the aeon that the aeon gives them some of their power to act for them. there are some exceptions, like the eminators who go against their aeon, but there are various reasons for this. the most well known ones are elation and nihility(acheron), which is interesting since both paths have a similar mind set "nothing in the universe matters so (do nothing/do anything you want and have fun)". the idea of a god of fun giving power to someone who wants to kill the fun is kinda fun in its self.
>also above all of those you have the aeon its self/the path/end of the path.
@@xXzman9000XxIsnt Jingyuan and Danheng emenators as well? It was mentioned briefly by Blackswan (but danheng isnt a full emenator due his his molting rebirth and bailu). I think he’s the only emenator of the hunt on the Xianzhou, but im not sure if he follows the path of the hunt that closely.
@@Fuphu Dan heng is more of a descendant of Long the permanence rather than an emanator, I believe that the vidiadrya are said to be children of long though I may be incorrect
I thought that what happened in Sunday’s fight is that he was absorbing both Harmony and Order and he was about to ascend to aeonhood himself (probably becoming the aeon of Philosophy, since that was the description in his third form)
Bad luck for Duke Inferno, the Annihilation Gang were trying to slay an Aeon and their target is IX, they tried to Assassinate IX thinking it was an easy target, till they faced an Emanator(Acheron)
How Ironic, being killed by the power of literally nothing
You can read it in Simulated Universe about the Aeons, the Annihilation Gang were attempting to assassinate IX, they wanted to be the first to kill an Aeon
@@TPLR15it was funny😂, that's also the reason why they thought IX was an easy target
@@seulbilee1025 never mess with someone as chill as IX 💀💀💀
It wasnt Duke Inferno's group who fought IX tho. Annihilation Gang has many sub factions, like the Jepella's Brotherhood that was deceived and destroyed from the inside by the Stellaron Hunters.
I def believe that Sampo is an emanator of Elation. Both known playable emanators so far (Acheron and Jing Yuan) have been rated by Herta's rating pistol as "Rating invalid" and so has Sampo, and we know that Boothill ran into an emanator of Elation recently and we know that Sampo and Sparkle have both been around Penacony recently. It would make sense to me that the rating pistol measures connection to paths in some kind of way and can't comprehend emanators. I think the only other characters that are "rating invalid" are March 7th and Luocha, both characters we basically know nothing about, so they definitely have the possibility of being emanators
My theory given March's looks (and the damn signature pose) is that March is actually Kiana's expy in the HSR universe, so the rating is invalid because March is (probably) stupid(ly overpowered)
Loucha is probably an emanator cause you can't deny that guy was discrete and OP on many levels. Like guy basically sneaked a whole Stellaron aboard which even JY said that only Emantor could sneak a Stellaron so perfectly without JY notice. Also still no idea about what tf he carries in that box, also I remembered that even Jingliu and bkade vaguely mentioned about him. Also the fact that he knows too much about Abundance abominations
luocha is emanator of abundance and march is emanator of remembrance
@@otaviom6480 only thing missing is March and Acheron interacting with each other.
@@Why_AreYouthat emanator was phantylia and not loucha, he just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time
fantastic video bro also describing Phantylia then the abundance emanates after made it easier to understand
Maybe acheron became nihility's emanator because the story of Izumo and Takamigahara is so... futile, so meaningless.
In their story Izumo and Acheron have struggled so much against Takamigahara, have sacrificed so much for their survival, so much so that only Acheron alone remains in the end.
But, after that, it turns out that Izumo and Takamigahara was destined to be destroyed by the black sun of their solar system anyway, that sun being a black hole that is a shadow of IX. I'm sure this fact is pretty f-ing despairing for Acheron.
Maybe IX witnessed the futility, despair, and nihility of the struggle from Acheron and her people, and IX glanced at her.
True, a war so meaningless that it even stirred IX
IX is the embodiment of nothingness and it is even ironic that it exists, this was stated on simulated universe I think. It basically does nothing, not even glance on anyone so this may not be the case
It's explained in the story.
She drew so much power from nihility that it tainted her, forged her will into her weapon, and drew in even more power from IX. If IX does anything, including gazing upon a mortal, they go against their own path. "Why do anything, if everything is futile?"is a sentence that embodies the path of nihility. For it's aeon to do anything, would destroy it for going against their primus mobile
IX doesn't glance at anyone or anything. That's the whole premise of the Aeon. The Aeons are literally incqpable of going against the nature of their path, so your conclusion doesn't make sense at all.
However, Acheron has been tainted so much by the shadow of IX that she became a part of it and is now able to draw power from Nihility. Traditionally, the amount of power an Emanator has access to is regulated by their respective Aeon (power directly granted BY the Aeon), but because IX doesn't care, there is no definitive answer as to how much power Acheron can draw from IX.
@@CyberDragonVTso a way of thinking could be, she drew so much of power Ie thread so much on the path of nihility due to the meaningless war and because she walked down the path of something so meaningless and managed to get out of this black hole, she drew power from this nihility?
Actually, Acheron’s first blade wasn’t created from the Sovereign of Revelation. She wielded the 3rd Sentinel - “Howl”, created from an unnamed beast.
Just a small nitpick from a Raiden Mei fangirl.
44:50 In his hobbies voice line, Misha actually mentions the All-Devouring Narwhal. He talks about a magazine he reads, and says that the most recent one has an article about a whale that eats entire planets. At first, I thought this was just a fun throwaway line as a nod to Genshin, but thinking about it now, you might be onto something with it being an emanator. I wonder if it'll show up in HSR in the future.
I was thinking about the 5* version of Sampo and the possibility that he is an emanator
Then this video came out, cool vid by the way
Thanks and ya I agree 😊
@@TheGamerChronicles999 I'm pretty sure Sampo didn't break the fourth wall at the end of belabog, I aways assumed he was detailing and broadcasting the happenings going on the planet based on all the machines and equipment around him and his line of 'Say hi to all the people in tavern', which refers to the masked fools usually. Added on the fact, Sparkle directly mentions that she shouldn't have fully believed all of Sampo's info on the trailblazer and how he may have embellished it to much. Going based on that, Sampo wasn't a native of the planet and arrived there to stay as many native Belabogings mention how he one day just appeared and so he would access to off world technology before it actually opened back up to the universe.
Nah, im def sure he’s eware of the players presence
@@azedenfender880he did break the 4th wall. Yes, he was probably talking to the masked fool at first at the end of belebog when he said : ‘ Well, bye for now. Send my regards to the guys and the girls in the tavern. Oh, and don’t forget to say that Sampo Koski will catch them for the next one. Time to make my curtain call.’ This sentence is implying to the masked fools, since it is ‘guys and girls in the TAVERN.’ But after that he says :’ To you, my dear audience. I dedicate my performance… I wonder, Did I bring a little more joy into ur lives? you don’t have to answer that - but if the answer is no, then u’ll break my heart.’ Implying to us, the audience. u can go check it if u want. Also, even if he hasn’t broken the 4th wall, he is still heavily implied to be a emanator, for example: when we went to belebog, the first person we meet is Sampo, hiding himself in the snow. Then after that, bc of him, we meet Gepard, which led us to meet Cocolia, then he takes us to the underworld and Bronya follows us, THEN we takes us to Svarog and runs away AGAIN. Imo it is not a coincidence. Also, we met him on every planet we went to ( we don’t count Herta’s Space Station cause it is not a planet ) first: Belebog, he was the first person we meet and led us to the end. second: Xianzou, welp, we didn’t meet him face to face but he sent us a little ‘surprise’ there. Third, Penacony, unlike Xianzou, he didn’t leave us any ‘surprise’ there but he actually was there, if u played Black Swan’s story quest you would see him, if we meet him in the next planet then it is not a coincidence anymore, for sure.
bruh i was literally just thinking about different emanators and ur video is up
My emanator powers of finality ;)
So fuli is basically google and the garden of recollection are those google map cars that travel around different cities and countries. Got it!
Sunday was definitely an Emenator of Order during the festival
I’d say he was one of harmony and a path strider of order since he was never chosen by Ena
@@LJCastano Was Robin the chosen one by Ena then?
if i recall, you cannot be an emanator of a path that has a perished aeob
aeon*
@@pootypootytangtang4k that’s correct and aeon has to actively choose to give someone the power of an emanator if an aeon is dead, there is 0% chance of an emanator of that path existing
There is no reason for IX to be hostile for everything will return to nihility in due time. Even aeons.
Fun fact : Back then in 2022 Honkai Impact 3rd v6.2 added a new location which was the location where the final battle between The Flamechasers vs Herrscher of *Finality* took place in. The CN translation of the location is called "Terminus Crater"
I feel like the enigma embraces the saying "ignorance is bliss", because there are a couple mentions in game (i think?) saying that the followers of the enigma don't necessarily do what they do to cause chaos, or rather that some things are meant to stay unknown which could be why they actively try to stop the erudition, which wants to find the truth of everything
Sunday using the Harmony to enforce the power of the Order to create a dream without aeons only to (almost) become an aeon himself is so funny to me. He's so silly
Side note, I think that he is technically closer to the Harmony than even he realizes (or wants to be). Dreammaster calls him and Robin "twins of the harmony" (I already forgot the quote) and both of them possess tuning ability (Robin used it on TB at the start of Penacony and Sunday later tells us it's the same thing when he brings us into his mind). He (and presumably Robin) can literally enforce that other harmonic chord directly calling on the power of Xipe (Ena is not a triple faced soul). Yes I'm still hoping he will be quantum harmony whenever he's playable lol
Honestly I'm glad you spoke about the generals of the Xianzhou because how else can you take the statement but that they are emanators? They literally work in tandem directly with their aeon, similarly to the lord ravagers.
Black swan is not an emanator. Welt gave a passing line that she may be, but basing it on how the curio in Herta s station scores the assumed and known emanators, she doesn’t seem to be one
But in the story Black Swan says every memokeeper is an emanator of the Remembrance. So the rating pistol can't rate emanators that have proper combat capabilities (Black Swan is probably weak outside of the dream world canonically, i didn't get the chance to read her character story)
@@otaviom6480 No, she says that emanator give up their body, memokeepers also give up their body, but we don't know if all memokeepers are emanators, if some are or if giving up their body is just a trait they share.
WE still Don't know on what basis does the rating pistol gives its rating, it MAY be power level but it could be something else.
@@Vermichu_realwell it could be that as seen in the mini-pompom mission things?
In one, March borrows the rating pistol, and uses it on Pompom, the result was said to be 1/10, could be power likely since March loves her captain!
What does that pistol even rate? Black Swan doesn't even have a body
And now we got “The Herta” coming up
I think IX is rlly the strongest Aeon. The fact that everyone can be affected by Nihility (subconsciously) by just simply losing hope or doubting one’s meaning or existence proves that IX is scary (not to mention gazing upon the Aeon makes them lose hope or give up on what they’re doing). I think anyone despite being loyal pathstriders of a certain path can succumb to thoughts of Nihilism. It’s really fortunate that the path of that Aeon bounds itself to be indifferent because otherwise, IX’s actions will have catastrophic effects to the universe such as civilizations and life declining or planets ceasing to exist because they will end up swallowed by IX. This is why Acheron is so powerful because IX’s power and reach is simply incomprehensible.
I want to state that the only confirmed playable Emanator which is Acheron, only she has a different ultimate button with a new playstyle than any other character playable in the game. The game did state that all the generals where blessed with the hunt but didn't state if they where Emanators. Jin Yuan was blessed with Lightning Lord which is comparable to an Emanator, however he himself isn't an Emanator since it took a group to defeat phantiliya and they where all struggling against her. In the end it was the lightning Lord who gave the final blow alongside dan heng. Im pretty sure other Emanators will also get a different ultimate button like Acheron in my theory but obviously its not confirmed and just speculation on my part.
Bro u forgot about herta tho... she is also confirmed
@@realfrisk Well we use one of her puppets though, not her.
@@realfrisk yes as I said "confirmed PLAYABLE emanator" the herta we currently have is a puppet, not the actual herta herself
@@aria7048ruan mei is one iirc
Well Phantylia had her own powers plus the power of the Abundance (Ambrosial Arbor) so she was quite amped up. They were struggling hard cause the Arbor made her immortal. That's why the way they defeated her is Jing Yuan linking with Phantylia and then making Dan Heng stab him and sharing the damage
Imagine having an Hybrid Emanator(Sunday) being a member of the Stellaron Hunters(They are so many theories talking about Sunday being a Stellaron Hunter after his defeat)
He'll be connected to the IPC or at least Jade in some way.
Enamator is more like “the Chosen” like Dnd term. They match the ideas to the Gods or Goddess. It’s a responsibility to have this big power.
In the lore there was another self-anihilator who later became part of Doctor of Chaos
Ya just wasnt sure if they were an emanator
Being a self-annihilator doesn't mean they are an Emanator of Nihility. Acheron is just built different.
Being a self-annihilator is basically being a stage-4 cancer patient, the Nihility is literally eating away at their existence.
@@Huyrroutell that to every character in game saying she’s an emenator… A self annihilator is basically an Emanator…. How come you guys still can’t accept this fact?
@@FD-wl7xq what I was trying to say is the Emanator of Nihility is a self-annihilator, but not all self-annihilator is the Emanator of Nihility. Acheron is an Emanator because she chose to embrace Nihility and walk down the Path and not be consume by it, her willpower is that strong.
From the faction description, Self-annihilators are treated as patients or plague carrier, Nihility is a disease that eats away at people's existence and there is no cure.
@@FD-wl7xqyou are fighting for rectangular not being square.
What is can be killed in the game is the AEON, a manifestation of *Concept*. If Aeon is killed Its Concept remain, concept can not be killed/erased otherwise the whole universe Will collapse.. for example if somehow someone/something erase the concept of destruction, all the thing in universe may became unbreakable which sound nice in someway but actually not at all.. or the concept of abundace is erased all thing in universe cannot heal/repair itself
Maybe, idk IM dumb
Except concept can also be hindered. Like in the swam disaster, the thing that Qlipoth's hammer struck wasn't Tayzzyronth, it was the concept of the path itself
@@ultrasuper6353 "you can kill a man, not the idea"
Only through the adulteration of the Imaginary Tree itself will one be able to erase a whole concept (maybe that's how Acheron will eliminate the Nihility?)
I just realised something. In SU, Elation is the Path that gives buffs to follow-up attacks. Because a joke consist of...
A setup followed by a punchline.
Did everyone just forget that Jing Yuan said that if it were for ANOTHER eminator masking the presence of the stelleron, he would have noticed it being snuck onboard?
Doesn't that mean he's saying he's also an eminator?
He's definitely an Emanator. After the fight with Sunday, he says "when 2 Emanators clash things are bound to get out of control" something along those lines. That raises the question of if Sunday is an Emanator, this did happen in the false dream after all
@@NightbreakerytI think it might have been Black Swan that said that(?) but even so, it's heavily implied Sunday is basically emanator status as well (if Robin is, there's no way Sunday can't be). It did happen in the dream but hypothetically the dream would have to play off of our (the crew's) assumptions to fill in the blanks. So that would mean that the crew/everyone would have to think or believe both Sunday and Jing Yuan were emanators.
@@spyrothetimelord My thoughts exactly, and I think you're right, it might've been Black Swan, thanks
@@Nightbreakeryt He is not an Emanator, Black swan just said that a clash between a power similar to an Emanator, since Lightning Lord is a blessing from Lan, Dan Heng being s Long's reincarnation or smth and Harmonious Ode is one step closer to becoming Emanator of Order.
@@passive7923 No she didn't lol.
She specifically said "When Emanators collide, ordinary people inevitably suffer."
There's no "a clash between a power similar to an Emanator."
Jing Yuan has always been hinted to be an emanator, even in Pom Pom's guide to Emanators Jing Yuan's Lightning Lord is featured in it.
With the hunt the general position itself draws power from the aeon. Like how the previous xianzou general also had lightning lord (this was in that one heliobus story quest where the heliobus was trying to fight the general) its like a power that comes with the role itself. So pretty much if fu xuan succeeds jing yuan she will gain lightning lord too.
“Would you still love me if I were a worm?”
Aha: lol, no
I loved the cooking aeon example HAHA i do love cooking myself and hope to be physically visited by them
i think someone said the large bug in the firefly animation was just a swarm mother like the one that swallowed the express, not even an emanator
Also small note about Black Swan and Sam noticing her, that's when she realized Sam was somebody she had already authorized too see her and probably made the connection the Sam and Firefly were the same person.
if i remenber correctly Acheron said she want to end the path o nihility or something like that, and that was the reason that she became the emanator
While agreeing with Elio being a prime candidate as an Emanator of Finality, my candidate for Elation wasn't Sampo but rather Sparkle. Sparkle seems to not only hold much greater power than Sparkle, but there is also everything in official videos on Star Rail's channel. In her trailer Monodrama she declared that she IS Elation, and in the more recent curtain call for Penacony she dedicated her performance on Penacony to us, the audience as well.
Idk, maybe? I mean emanators can hide the fact that they are Emanators, for all that we know both sparkle and sampo might as well be emanators, also sampo said something along the lines that sparkle is more insane than him
the more I hear about Aha, the more I want him to be reincarnated in the real world.
imagine him seeing this world and trolls us just for the laughs.
Damn that will be amazing
For the enigmata if i remember right it does have a concrete goal. It is said that tl;dr the ending of the universe has been forseen, and in order to prevent it, the universe itself needs to be "disguised" in a fog of uncertainty. Very much reminds me of some scp type stuff, much like literally everything in this game
State the path you follow or a group you've joined. Then, tell the class the reason for that choice.(self insert).
Equilibrium.
Voracity
Abundance
I enjoy making sure people stay alive and well
The Hunt or Elation.
Very interesting and informative video that explains the lore of emanators in depth
Loving your content 1 sub and 1 like for you
If joker was in honkai verse, he would be emanator of elation
Oh ya definitely!
Joker does exist in star rail in the form of Sparkle just having actual power.
The thing I find most interesting about IX is that THEY would be highly unlikely to be as powerful as THEY are if THEY were capable of emotions like hostility or of consciously favouring emanators like aeons such as Nous. True Nihility is empty and bottomless, and so to truly embody that path means lacking interest in the universe. It simply consumes.
Perfect video to watch while I eat my sunday breakfast 😊
My understanding of the Generals is that the Lord Marshal is an emanator, and he empowers the Generals in a similar to way to Diamond empowering the Stonehearts. So they're not Emanators themselves, but they are on a similar level.
She* marshal hua is she , is based on fu hua a character from honkai impact 3rd
Wingperor is not an Emanator, they will be respected like one, but they are not.
Shuhu did not made the Disciple of Sanctus Medicus, Shuhu inspired rather than establishing. Also, Danshu Disciple of Sanctus Medicus is a different organization from the old one.
Abundance Emanator are definitely my favorite, that is why I will wait for THEY to appear. I don’t care what form THEY will take. I only care about when THEY will appear. Honestly, we currently only know of one Emanator, but Shuhu is all I need to simp for Yaoshi.
Sampo is indeed the most suspicious and likely candidate to be one of the emanators of elation with not only breaking the 4th wall but somehow involving himself or being mentioned in some way throughout the trailblazers story and seems to be following the astral express with him being mentioned on the loufu and him appearing on penacony.
i feel like elio is not candidate but in fact he is the emanators of terminus no doubt
Love that you used the sanctuary of surasthana theme song for the abundance yaoshi gives me big nahida/rukkhadevata vibes
I think it's so blatantly obvious that Arbiter Generals are Emanators that it's almost laughable. Like you don't just get called "The Arrow of the Reignbow Arbiter" by just being a Pathstrider. Also, remember Lan too was part of the Xianzhou Alliance as a normal human 5000 years ago before he ascended to become an Aeon, he cares about his followers more than any other Aeon because it's his own people and him giving power and allowing the Xianzhou to choose their own Emanators is a really good way to show that he is different from the other warring Aeons.
I think the whole Arbiter General Saga is going to be over when FeiXiao and Huaiyan are released
This always confused me. The path of the hunt existed before Lan as it is simply a philosophy, but people say that there cannot be an emanator of a path whose aeon is dead. But the aeon would just be replaced by a new one if it dies. Multiple people can take a philosophy to an extreme. The power comes from the path not the aeon. The aeon just has access to all of it. This is what I thought initially.
@@HRune-xs5qxAeons are not immediately replaced, so no that wouldn't really be the case. There are already multiple canonically dead aeons who still have followers of their path, but it's impossible for an emanator to exist for these paths as to be an emanator, you need to have an aeon to give that power. As far as we know, the only way to become an aeon is to ascend, they don't just appear into existence whenever the previous aeon of a path dies.
The idea of the path can exist but that path doesn't come into being until someone ascends, the path of the hunt did exist, but Lan embodied it so much he than became the first aeon of the hunt.
We don't know what happens if you become an emanator, then your aeon dies. We just know that you cannot BECOME an emanator if the aeon of that path is currently dead.
I think Generals obtained that title since they have blessings of Lan but they are still not an Emanator. I mean Marshal Hua exists, which is a higher rank than the Generals.
@@passive7923 Well some emanators are far stronger than others and military status does not equal strength.
Yea there's a lot of arguing over "which part" of a character is an Emanator, which is misstep. When an Aeon gazes upon you, they grant you some power and you become an Emanator. Just a small gaze and Herta became an Emanator and like the Noblesse Worm, it can also be taken away like nothing, causing it to die, the gaze is a borrowed temporary power.
All of Luofu's generals are Emanators because they borrowed power from Lan through entities like the Lightning Lord, that is the manifestation of Lan's gaze itself. The Lightning Lord is a temporary power that can be granted, taken away and passed down to others, as transient as a gaze.
I really love the emanator explanation through the cooking referece. It is so simple yet so helpful.
Once we get to the point that the game actually tries explaing the Imaginary Tree/Quantum Sea we're gonna have a whooooole other basket of fish to categorise lol
It's canon that at one point there's the most powerful emanator in the universe and it's a worm. (It's the strongest because Aha put all of his power into it unlike other emanator)
There's a point scoring gun curio on Herta space station that rates playerable characters from 1-100, currently all confirmed Emanators (Jingyuan, Acheron, not including Herta puppet) would cause the gun to malfunction and not give a score, which is a very coincidental.
Going by this logic, another characters that can not be rated is Sampo (Maybe also Emanator?), but Gallagher and Black Swan did receive a rating which is very interesting
Correction: Sliver wolf's rating goes beyond 100 (she's 110), Clara was rated twice, DHIL got his rating with a ? after the score and i also missed Locha who also didn't receive a score.
who knows what gallagher actually is lol
@@neonexus1897The fact is that others get rating of some sort while Emantors don't.
Cause if you think about it Sampo is basically a perfect guy to be an Emanator for Aha. He's prime canditate. Like the guy is a walking joke. You can argue about Sparkle being same but not exactly cause we know that Sparkle only likes to mess around whereas Sampo is kinda like that but not exactly, cause he literally would do things and mess around and then sort them out which matches Aha perfectly.
Also Loucha might also be an Emanator cause he's the one who actually sneaked the stellaron on Loufu ship and JY said that onky an Emator could that. Also he knows too much about Abomination of Abundance.
The one who I feel sus is Black Swan, like if she was an Emanator why wasn't she more active and more able to fight against Sunday cause we know JY could match his power and JY isn't even a confirmed Emantor, he has gotten a gift from Hunt that is LL
@@Why_AreYouluocha did not sneak in the stellaron it was phantylia
@@Why_AreYou black swan thing is recording memorise, i don't see a good reason for her to fight sunday
Argenti being an emanator of beauty makes sense and makes my heart happy lololol (I hope he is tbh) same w jing yuan being an emanator of the hunt+other generals. W vid.
Jing Yuan confirmed that Sunday and the generals were Emanators towards the end of 2.2 (or atleast that he is an emanator. i would assume that the others are also emanators since they got their power from the same place)
Jing Yuan didn't say that, it was Black Swan and even then she didn't say that JY is Emanator, she just said that his power can almost rival an Emanator. Also don't forget that Dan Heng's dragon and JY's lightning lord attack at the same time.
@@passive7923Not all Emanator are the same strength, you just need to be one to fight against one, which JingYuan fought against Phantylia. Also, don’t forget Welt said the Xianzhou seven Arbitors Generals not inferior to the lord ravagers of Nanook, and they have destroyed suns and galaxies on a massive scale before.
@@jade7631but doesn't that statement from BlackS kinda puts her in a fraud list. Cause she said "a clash between Emanators is always catastrophic" or something along those lines. But If she was an Emanator herself than why wasn't she able to do something similar and be more active and strong in fight against Sunday rather than betting on Acheron and TB to do that.
Stelle/Caelus are technically emanators, considering the whole Architect’s Lance thing.
I am the emanator of the aeon of unemployment
LOL
real
genius societey, or xianjou general is just like stone corner holder, they are holder of the power or maybe got the gaze of aeons, but i think they are not the emanator them self. ex: known preservation emanator right now is diamond, but s/he shared his/her power with the other trough the stone corner holder.
*puts on a tinfoil hat*
The Express itself is an Aeon.
Honestly, that’s a good theory, but I personally am going with pom-pom being an aeon
So glad I found this channel randomly, thank you, Im a new sub now, I love these kind of lore, I don't mind the yap at all
There is actually one known character that is an emanator of multiple Aeons. Catching the gazes of Nanook, Qlippoth and Xipe and being able to draw power from their paths as needed and desired.
Yes, I'm talking about the MC. A pathstrider gaining power by drawing the gaze of an Aeon is the definition of an Emanator after all...
MC is not a emanator,the lance is a gift from Qlipoth and the others two Just recognized mc
Blessing and become emanator are two different things. Fu Xuan got Nous's blessing, but she is not emanator of Nous.
I'm going to guess that Acheron might get a new form. Once she gets in touch with the Doctors of Chaos and finally gets to be able to rid herself of the Nihility, she could embody the power of Finality and become its true emanator. The "find me, your end, my origin" lines from her trailer are still unsolved mysteries in this universe other than being HI3 callbacks. She hallucinated Robin in her make-up ad as someone else who is important to her story because of Sparkle's tricks. Possibly her Kiana of this game.
I consider myself as a emanator of Beauty but soon I will not be I will be the AEON the joysses of the beautiful are unbearable 😈
love how the fairy fountain theme played for idrilas part, didnt realize how fitting it was
Both Black Swan and Phantylia choosing the hottest bodies possible is very based
Lol foreal
Bro is already right about herta we are getting her animator form in next version and FEIXAO( genral )is probably a eminator of hunt
I think it was confirmed both Jing Yuan and Sunday are Eminators by Black Swan when she was recapping what actually happened during the first fight with Sunday. She said that when Eminators clash, it is bound to have a large impact on the area and people around them, in reference to Jing Yuan attack on Sunday.
Well, yes, and no Sunday is not anymore anyway and Jing Yuan has the power of one thanks to lightning lord but he was not selectively chosen it’s rather just something that he gets as being the general
Gordon Ramsey being the emenator of cooking is not something i expected to hear today
Maybe the express itself is Akavili's new form.
Akivili has travelled on that express though
@@jade7631 well, he is an aeon and we have no clue how wide their powers are. I doubt a fusion would be out of the question.....Or him being the train's engine/heart....donno. I do have a sneaky feeling that PomPom knows more than he is willing to share
but Himeko was the one to fix the express when she found it from somewhere
nah he ded
Jing Yuan is pretty much confirmed to be an Emanator. After the first fight with Sunday in Penacony, when Dan Heng and Jing Yuan attack Sunday together, Welt calls it a "clash of Emanators".
Also Black Swan's status as an Emanator is debatable, since while Welt called the Memokeepers "Emanators of Remembrance", thats pretty much the only evidence of BS being an Emanator, while Jing Yuan for example has plenty of evidence.
ALSO also Black Swan wasn't immune to Ena's dream. The only reason she discovered was because of our memories of Misha in the Reverie Hotel, otherwise she was oblivious to it like everyone else. The only reason Acheron was immune was because of The Nihility. Since THEY ignore everyone and everything, even other Aeons have no power over THEM (and by extension, THEIR Emanator, Acheron).
i mean the phantylia fight was the first one of the first mentions of him being an emanator
All the generals of the the Alliance are 100% Emanators. Idk why people are so adverse to accepting Jing Yuan as an Emanator. The generals received powers (e.g., Lightning Lord for the Luofu General) from Lan, and while they are only Emanators for being generals, they are still Emanators nonetheless. Feixiao and Huaiyan are also emanators.
@@rinrainaozora4254 people are "adverse" because the game isn't being clear at all. Why wouldn't it be mentioned directly at this point, especially since it's such an important title? Why does no one, EVER, refer to him directly as an Emanator? Why beat around the bush? Hell, in any of his promotional material, why wasn't it stated ONCE?
@@equalopportunity2048 ah, that makes sense. I hate when Hoyo is being too dodgy about the lore (HCQ lore is full of that bc we still don’t know exactly what happened). I wonder if it’s because of the generals being temporary Emanators.
@rinrainaozora4254 agreed. The generals could be a situation similar to the Stonehearts, where Platinum is the only true Emanator but the others borrow the power of an Emanator.
Eminence of Xianzhu generals is a dubious spot in the lore. In Ena’s dream, Black Swan called Jing Yuan and Harmonious Choir Sunday “Emanator” in quote. So I think like how Sunday is not the emanator but is “using” one aka the embodiment of Harmony, one of the harmonious choirs. The supreme tuner Dominicus. I believe Jing Yuan has the blessing of the lightning lord who is the emanator here. Also, the history fictionologists are mentioned in the data bank as emantors and Welt says that memokeepers are emantors but Gallagher mentioned in the story that manipulating and maintaining the dreamscape requires the power of a Remembrance or Enigmata emanator which I think excludes himself and Black Swan. The only ones that have emphasis put on their emanator status was Acheron.