747 Crosswind Landing Goes Wrong
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*The KLM's rudder input was incredible.*
I would have never notticed, thanks!
What was incredible was left airleron. Completely missing. That’s why it got blown over
@@pedrosuraI think the wind was blowing from the right, which will cause the plane to bank left after touchdown. So in fact he actually applied a bit too much right aileron (you can see that the spoilers on the left wing are slightly lower and the right aileron is deflected upwards)
Yeah and the procedure for landing a 747 in a crosswind is to land the mains then de-crab. Pilot kicked it straight before touching down. Some left aileron would have helped as noted above.
@@pedrosura actually it was not lack of controls but overcontolling by the pilot. Crosswind from the right would lift the right wing and rolled the airple to the left.., however airplane lifting the opposite wing (left) and rolling to the right was entirely due to pilot inputs
"747 Crosswind Landing Goes Wrong". I want a refund.
The titles are always click-baity on this channel. Still enjoy watching it though 😉
Usually has the word 'too' in the title implying something more than a close call or a rough landing.
In crosswind landings the upwind wing aileron must be at max deflection after touchdown. The wind causes lift on that side while “sliding” off the downwind wing. The rudder input was for 😮runway direction.
Needs moar right rudder.
@@Rhaman68- Try again.
0:25 one of the main landing gears even lifted off the ground! Massive respect to the pilot landing in typical dutch weather
Hi 👋🏻
@@EggsAviation hi 👋
Nothing in that video was typical Dutch weather. 😂
It was sunny typical Dutch weather is rain....
KLM paint is my favorite, so pretty.
You're right. The turquoise blue with white is very pretty. That 747 approach looks majestic.
That last landing was like when mom was PISSED and slammed on the brakes threatening to turn the car around and take yo a$$ home.
My dad followed through once on our way to a rare outing (a carnival with rides, I think) which we'd been looking forward to a LOT. Very effective. I did the same to my kids, too-once. Never needed to do it a second time.
THAT'S IT. BACK TO WINNIPEG.
747 landing went _right_ IMO. Pilot handled it perfectly.
He used full rudder which was nice, but excessive right aileron after landing. You only need enough to keep wings level and assist with steering. The wind was from the right so the right engines almost touching the ground was entirely the pilot, not the wind. You don't need full aileron into wind for takeoff or landing on an airliner.
Thank you so much for using the correct plural of vortex.
Cuz vortexes just rubs you wrong ?
@@mindfornication4funn It's incorrect English. Like the plural of index is not indexes, it's indices.
When you only dumped fuel from the left wing: 0:21
Seemed more like that pilot still had some latent "crosswind landing in a Cessna" instincts. 😊
@@ctibpo991you can land that way in a 747 as well. He just needed to relax the aileron a bit.
0:58 That was bold to go for a greaser in a snowstorm. Plant the mains and get it stopped, don't worry about being smooth.
The Gentleman doing the "Countdown" to the landings is actually Siri's older brother! 😉
He's quite a bit older and he's obviously not got the memo that since the 80s or 90s you're supposed to say "intellectually disabled".
He's very rude calling the pilot a retard
@@fluchterschoennever go full intellectually disabled 😅
🤣
I just learned that it you comment has the word '"ree tarred" it gets deleted
In the next video, please give us an extra 10 seconds of Aerosucre. 😍
Or an hour of their greatest hits!
@@Twobarpsi I think we'd all be happy with 3 minutes of AeroSucre
I first read that as Aerosauce.
Always the newest/best videos keep on going !!!
Back in the mid-70s, my mom, little brother, and I were on a Christmas trip from Gallup, NM, to Hobbs, NM, to visit grandparents. Mom decided to fly rather than try to drive across the Rockies in December. I don't remember the type of plane, but it was a 2 engine prop..
We stopped in Albuquerque, and the next scheduled stops were Roswell, Carlsbad, and then Hobbs. The pilot tried Roswell, had a couple goes, and went on to Carlsbad without landing. At Carlsbad, the pilot announced we weren't even going to try, because he couldn't see the airport.
At Hobbs, the pilot announced they HAD to land, because we didn't have the fuel to go on - and visibility was barely a half mile because of snow! Oh, it got interesting ...
The 747 is the most beautiful aircraft ever made
I love the heft, bulk and gravitas of that first 747 landing! The snowstorm cockpit landing was awesome too! And the Florence airport landing is of considerable interest since I just flew out of that airport last year. A very enjoyable outing with 3M of A.
Florence, the airport I have flown to many times but never landed there, always diverted to somewhere else due to fog.
The rwy can be used one way only. That's because the mountains on the other side. This means that with winds with SW component stronger than 10kts, is impossible to land. Due to the same mountain, even low visibility approaches with good winds are impossible. In case of GA, the mountain would be hidden in fog. I land there once every week and diversions happen!
Damn, that go-around in the snow looked a lot like a sim event.
😅
Beautiful video of that KLM 👍🇦🇺
TAROM, great job, scary af to me!
Great episode!!!
Great capturing
The runway at LIRQ Aeroporto di Firenze-Peretola may be officially 1,560 Meters long, but it has very big displaced thresholds. Aircraft may not land short of the thresholds but are permitted to start takeoff rolls before and complete the the landing roll after those thresholds.
The landing distance available (LDA) includes the entire displaced threshold at the end. The LDA on 23, in the opposite direction, is only 977 meters, that includes the 45m that 05 is displaced. So it’s 932 meters from the start of 05 to the marks that begin 23, but then another nearly 600m (23’s displacement) included the landing area. It’s not 1500m plus all the displaced threshold. Go 1600m past the beginning of RW05 and you are on the public road outside the airport.
Fun fact, Airbus offered a "Peretola-pack" to the A319 with a few modifications (such as slightly moving both ailerons slightly downward when flying slow to make them act a bit like flaps or further aft centre of gravity limits to reduce approach speed) to help it operate from Firenze's airport.
After a while all A320 family planes got those mods as default.
Bro you are just amazing
Excellent video!
Fantastic content! Dutch spotters are very professional and in this instance, the UK Heathrow content was equally professional. WELL DONE, 3MoA! ✊🏻
The A318 in FLR is incredible 😮
You will experience how effective the brakes and the anti-skid system on the a319 are! Once outside you can also enjoy the power and the loud noise of the brakes cooling fans.
Brakes coud easily reach 300 or more degrees C, after the application of manual breaking like this. To avoid brakes excessive wearing, a special kit should be installed on the aircraft if operating there on regular basis.
Woof! Tough conditions.
The last video cuts out at the critical moment when we're left wondering just how close the aircraft came to the runway end before making a complete stop...brilliant.
I really used to love flying with low ceilings at minimums in the old steam gauge planes! Definitely exciting!
To me that KLM landing looked like a well-executed crosswond landing, but the pilot was perhaps a bit heavy handed with the ailerons after touchdown
No way, he was full left roll and the aircraft was still rolling to the right. If he let up on the full left roll those right engine's would have struck.
@@BlakeJoyummm…the wind was coming from the right of the aircraft, not left, you got it backwards.
You own us 9 seconds of aviation
Tarom 737-800..landing...amazing
The little-known use of wind spirits to start the engines.
You owe us 9 seconds of aviation!
Akthually its 9 seconds 🤓👆
U ok? @@DjAstro90
Awesome!😂
Nice vids
Little sideways landing in the snow is always fun!!!
that airbus at the end was quite disrespectful to the pilot
Yeah, they like to mouth off.
Well, "developmentally disabled" has too many syllables
@@user-mp9rd4hg8b indeed, i suppose neurodivergent also has too many
You owe us 10 seconds!! lol
And with the intro and outro, more like 25 seconds.
It takes more than 10 seconds to read the description, so that counts too.
Amsterdam is always tricky!
Holy crap that KLM Cargo's rudder was fully locked over... crazy recovery
747: Those were the days that Boeing ment quality 😊
0:57 These guys are sure receiving a ‘long landing’ mail from Flight Safety 🤪
Landing a relatively light 747 in a strong crosswind is quite a challenge. Actually the initial touchdown is okay, but very quickly the upwind wing likes to lift up and it can take a surprising amount of aileron input to keep the airplane level.
I liked your video😊❤❤❤❤❤❤
feels like the air france airbus was like: 1500m? easy, i'll land 200m after the threshold... great job though! Looked like a really high approach
Yes and no...
They crossed the threshold right as the radar altimeter called out 50, which is what's used for landing distance calculations typically.
Then again, that's not exactly a typical runway, so perhaps a lower crossing height would have been advisable.
It looks high because the runway is so short. They're actually on a normal glide path, if the runway was a normal length.
What are you talking about ? You are not supposed to land on the threshold
@@kevingreene1514going below the glide path is definitely not advisable.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 I think your comment is meant to say "going below"?
Why not? It's a clear day, and obviously no obstructions in the area before the runway. I'm not saying stay below it from way up high, but in the last couple hundred feet, dropping just a little bit lower wouldn't hurt, as long as there's no wake turbulence issues.
@@kevingreene1514 I fixed the “below”, thanks.
It’s ok to drop below in a small airplane, but the larger jets, it’s not advisable. The main landing gear is far behind the cockpit. And when landing, with a nose up attitude, this means the gear is also well below.
The A330, for instance, in normal landing attitude, the main gear can be 28 feet below the cockpit. So at 50 feet, seen from the cockpit, the main gear is only 22 feet above the ground.
So no, you don’t do this at low level, because it’s impossible to know where the main gear is.
Which crisswind landing go wrong exactly? I didn't see one that did.
Never once saw engine 3 or 4 strike the ground . Came close but no touch .
Klm is so cool
That last landing is like douglas Charles Airport with less than 5000ft. The embraer e175lr , the a320 neo, the c17globemaster, the boeing 727 all can handle under 5000ft runways which is that old airport length.
When that plane in the Florence landing is coming down and the voice says "One Hundred... Fifty...Forty... Thirty... Twenty", what is it saying after that? I have trouble understanding what it's saying.
Good video
@:39 Thank you for not broadcasting a live feed to the passengers. Lol.
Lucky the BA Neo didn’t have a hard landing, there doesn’t seem to be a lot of ground clearance from the gear doors.
1500m of runway here in Brazil is a bargain. Very often we land on 30m wide and 1350m runways.
0:44 That was very touching.
Wow the first one ouch
That last runway looked really short, but the plane stopped with ease!
What was the reason for that 748 landing? Would've been awesome to see it from both external and internal.
0:45 awww it's so romantic they're holding hands
Question, for a two-way radio, one would have 121.5 and 1200 frequencies on if not otherwise in specified frequencies issued by the ATC, correct? Please let me know.
Two-way radio simply means the radio can receive and transmit. If it can only receive, it’s a one way radio. It has nothing to do with 121.5.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 I see. Ok, thank you🙂.
0:23 it looks like only the right wing's spoilers deployed after touch down, causing this tilt 🤔
unless the other spoilers are hidden by the camera angle
At least the doors on that A321 were meant to open at some point.
It was sketchy but didnt «go wrong»?? Not needed with the clickbaity titles dude
In the second clip, I'm glad the pilot and copilot have a close relationship C:
Lol
It was their way of agreeing with The Go-Around! @0:45 Together forever! 💞
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Even when crossing the threshold at 50, the A318 was almost to the threshold at the other end before touching down....I would like to see the video of their departure...maybe 15 secs or less to Vr?
Howd ya like to make that landing the other way with that long displaced threshold ?
😲😲
No NEO hydraulic failure, those are extra air-brakes.
man that first just ripped the engine right off because it hit the runway so hard. yeah good caption 3MOA
When it's just one, it's vortex
Flying in a white-out 😬‼️
I would be doing a go back instead of a go around, with fingers fully crossed hoping the instruments don’t act up.
As someone in size 14 sneakers, you're not wrong.
@00:33 I think at this point we should have the technology to display electronically or virtually what the pilots should see if there is low to no visibility. Have the plane and the ground equipment talk to each other, communicate with each other.
That pilot doing a low vis at night would be better off turning his landing lights off as the fog reflection is blinding. Same goes for landing at night when it’s snowing!
“Hydraulic failure”…or a stowaway getting out early
NO NO NO! THIS IS NOT 3 MINS LONG! THIS IS 2:50 MINSSSSS!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
left wing spoilers did not deployed, therefore left wing never lost lift, this resulted to almost right outer engine strike
I miss AeroSucre!
Thanks for the contributions.
With all the huge safety issues coming to lite. Acros the model ranges. And whistleblower murders. Anyone. Traveling on any Boeing aircraft. Other than a 707 or 727 is a risk to themselves.
I will certainly make use of AIRBUS opportunities.
Don’t be over dramatic.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183
No.
Although can I smell very well.
Have a wonderful day!
0:45 did he just put his hand on copilot hand?
Can be required procedure during go around in some airlines to make sure you set sufficient thrust
Required by many airlines in a go-around to verify throttles are advanced.
yes, and that is explicitly defined in most airlines' regulations. Plus, for documentation purposes on the CVR, the verbal commando "go around".
Pushing the limits of "nearly" yet again.
747 crosswind landing goes… fine… almost bad, but just fine.
For landing the 747,pilots always say that you have to keep the wings level as good as possible to prevent pod strikes or other damage
So on other planes you don’t have to try to keep wings level? 🤔
Well, the guy is sorta right. Landing with one wing low increases the risk of a podstrike significantly on the 747. So yes, landing in a crab during crosswind condition is completely normal. The airplane was built for it. Don't try this on an MD11 though... 😂
@@chipdale490landing with a crab is just lazy. Yes, you can straighten out the nose and lower the wing. Just don’t over do it.
You can lower the wing. I’ve never had a pod strike or anywhere close to one. Know your airplane.
A318 is flying from New York to London City offering only 1508 m runway, it is built for exactly this purpose.
Not since COVID it isn't. There are no more non-stop flights between JFK and LCY.
Notice the a321’s landing only with the right reversers operative while left one is not working, no thanks to the hydraulic failure.
the BA pilots still buttered that landing, despite the problems.
Last pilot was riding the short bus to and from school.
Can someone explain to me what is going wrong here?
You can always rely on BA to be butter
*Therapist:* Why don't you want to be a pilot any more?
*Me:* The plane kept calling me mean names.
*Therapist:* Planes can't call you names.
*The plane:* 2:26
Why do crosswinds landings in AMS exist? Airport has 5 runways in every direction....
Engine strike? Where?
Why did they put windmills so close to the airport? Windmills cause crosswinds
yeah right
The closest one is about 6 km from the threshold, almost directly behind. It can’t do much from there, never mind cause a net crosswind (??).
@@EllipticGeometryare you serious? Windmills don’t add wind. 😂😂
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 I’m not the one saying they do. They do disrupt the flow in their wake like any obstacle, which could have some effect if they were close to the flight path. I’m just keeping it simple and pointing out that they’re far away.
@@EllipticGeometry insignificant for an airplane, even if the windmill is right next to the flight path on the upwind side.
747- after landing still have some roll command on the wings
Nah hands off to the pilots that had to land in a snowstorm 🫡🫡🫡
the landing at 1:10 was like less than 100 fpm
Why is the Tarom "forced" to go around, the pilot doesn't have any option.
forced
adjective
ˈfȯrst
: compelled by force OR NECESSITY : involuntary
a forced landing
Rip 747
How to make three minutes feel like one.
False advertising.
The plane (747) did not flip over and had a boatload of clearance under the engines. That was not wrong.