How to Install a DROP-IN DRAIN KIT for Freestanding Bathtubs
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- Опубліковано 2 лют 2024
- In today's video I'm starting my new tub renovation! Step 1: demolition. Step 2: move the drain to the center of the floor. Step 3: rebuild floor and water supply. Let's get to work.
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Good ole Jeff is making the amateurs feel better about monkeying their DIY projects. Best channel on UA-cam.
Cheers to DIYers everywhere!
Rub a dub dub how many Jeff's in a tub
I get my mail at Home Depot now. Just saves time. I think I went 5 times last weekend.
That would be an awesome integration. an amazon drop off box at the home depot!
Potable water lines generally use CPVC (higher max temp. They are more of an off-white color than pure white). Regular clear PVC cement isn't recommended with CPVC and you should usually use yellow/gold instead (as you can see from the old fittings).
I’m surprised Jeff made that mistake, I know he said in a prior video he doesn’t have much experience with CPVC. That is definitely the wrong glue for CPVC water supply lines.
That will leak and probably blow apart at some time
I love it! Jeff shows you the misshapes and everything is not perfect! Hands down one of my favorites to watch! Thanks for sharing Jeff!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I’ve missed these omg I can’t wait till summer to get back to full on renovations
Danngg Jeff! I just bought a house 5days ago and this is the EXACT thing I need to do. This is even the exact kind of tub I have and the kind I'm changing it to....Ur soooo ON TIME & TARGET with this video!! THANKS from Baltimore.
Glad I could help! Cheers to Ravens City!
Great videos mate, I'm a sparkie in Aus and the Bosch holesaws are twice as quick as that hole saw, they have spring loaded pins, simply pull back shank, spin the hole saw on and let go the pins automatically pin the hole saw from tightening on the shank and it doesn't cover the grub screw for the arbour. Try the Bosch mate, you won't regret it, I go through a kit every year and these are the only one that lasts the year.
Fun tip: With hole saws.. when drilling into plastic.. even on small plastic electrical box.. go in reverse..
Perfect every time! Thanks guys. Keep up the good work.
Great tip!
Jeff Thorman is great.
Genuine talent.
That piece of insulation moving around in the breeze when you were plumbing the faucet looked like a giant critter that was about to jump out at you.
right. crawl spaces usually empty out of critters as soon as you start banging around. running a saw tends to scare them away!
The "one fitting short" problem. Happens to everyone. Even when I buy more than I need, figuring I'll take back the extra bits after I'm done, I still fall one fitting short, one copper crimp ring short, etc. Also, I often get busy and forget to take back the extras!
I keep a box by the door an throw all my extra bits in it and then do 1 trip at the end of the job., always use the same card to purchase and it makes things easy to return.
Classic Thurman. Classic practical advice and common sense. Perfect, every time!
Every time you manhandled the cpvc my heart dropped knowing that it would snap in any second. Cpvc will snap in a heartbeat, becomes brittle over time.
Not changing that over to pex or copper is foolish when you are already in there.
Good tip on the hole saw kit. I've got the Crappy Tire version (Canadians will know what I mean). When it gets wedged together .... it's a bugger to get apart. I always manage to do it but sometimes I have to lock it into a vice, put a pipe wrench on it, etc. For a homeowner ... it's tolerable but it would drive a contractor nuts.
The crappy tire version can probably take a quick attach arbor, they are just too cheap to give you one.
The newest mastercrap version has been updated to use this sliding pin style arbor. Priced on-sale is tough to beat for the home user
Home depot wins
Flawless victory 😂
Actual rats are visible through the hole in the floor at 42:20 - glad you got to this property before they had a chance to chew it all up!
It's insulation flapping around due to a draft 😂
42:14 you can see some eyes. Little big to be a rat. Might be a opossum.
@@DrewReynolds you're dumb!
@@sh3riff ar3 you bl1nd?
@@DrewReynolds I think you're right! The oppossum - America's marsupial rat has blessed this crawlspace.
WARNING 🫵 ... for anyone who is dealing with old installed CPVC water lines, this is the most brittle material there is! We know that Jeff is a brave man but you be careful and DO NOT shake, twist and yank (@42:46) the old supply lines like that! They will snap on you in a second. Before one starts messing at all with old CPVC, MAKE SURE to shut off the main water supply or at least to KNOW where main is located on the property. Also, the glue Jeff is using is approved for many materials including CPVC buuuuuuut, there is a glue dedicated JUST for CPVC (yellow/orange) and I strongly suggest you use that. Although this glue creates a quick bond its curing time is up to two hours (keep that in mind). As we established earlier Jeffs valor and bravery we also know you are not him! At ANY glue point of CPVC fittings/couplings when bonding, MAKE SURE to hold the fittings for 30 seconds until they adhere! Chemical reaction in glue and the shape of the fitting WILL push fittings APPART unless there is a resistance. As with any plumbing work, after you are done, main is open and water lines are pressurized MAKE SURE to inspect visually and with your hand (if possible) for potential leaks. Especially down the old REMAINING line to which you made new connections to. And yes, I am a pro and do not ask me how do I know all of this. ✌️
san tee on its back
@@dollyhadbraces9361are you talking about the preexisting vent?
I was amazed at how many different kinds and sizes and whatnot you have with couplers. And the combined possibilities those create of getting the wrong ones XD
These days I come prepared and half a whole container filled with an assortment of them on the jobsite!
First-time commenter here. Idk why because I love your videos. Anywho, dont go buy a can opener... just knock the sides of them glue caps with your handy anything and they'll open right up. Your shattering the dried glue, in turn making it easier to open. I know a guy who has three girls and an amazing Mom (RIP) that showed him that little trick years ago to help open his little girls nail polish.
Keep up the good work man. 👏
Plumbing fittings are slightly tapered to avoid “snow plowing” the cement out of the joint when you insert the pipe. That’s why the pipe wants to pop out at first - not from the chemical reaction. Great video of a complete install as always, thanks!!
This is a fantastic how-to! Exactly our next project!
You got this Margaret! Cheers!
Exactly the inspiration video I needed. Thank you!
Should just run Pex.🤣 Or Shark Byte connections. Thanks for all your video's.
Finally the perfect video for me. Thank U brother
the next few vids are on transforming that space. glad to hear they will help you out. Cheers!
I've had that exact Milwaukee hole kit for years and you just taught me the correct way to use them! 🤦🏼♀️😂
Loving it!
Renovation for plumbing seems to include five trips back to the hardware store. You want microwave quick, you can forget about it 😅
Did my first freestanding tub install last fall, using the same drain system you show here at the beginning, and similar faucet mount. Even though i measured things up I missed the 4 inch wide lip on the tub. So the water tends to splash a bit on the edge and onto the floor. I can maybe move the faucet over 2 inches with some wrangling. For now I tried using the flexi-drain (came with the costco Ove tub) instead of the straight brass drain neck which would solve my problems .. but that makes the drain SUPER slow as it creates a bit of a 2nd P trap. Well for me the freestanding tub is just for show as I use shower instead and hot tub outside. Maybe I will move the faucet over some day so I can use the brass neck.
I love your bathroom remodel videos, they're easily my favorite. I just wish every once in a while there was one done on a concrete slab home. Is it even possible to relocate a drain in a slab home?
I like the plugin Sawzall! Screw those batteries and all that ‘green’ stuff! Crazy high priced, throw away tools.
Always buy more fittings than you need when doing any plumbing project, and more styles than what you need, to prevent extra trips back to the store, you can always return unused ones once your finished, ive almost always needed to use atleast one of the extra ones I get, unexpectedly.
Woah, I'm LITERALLY in the middle of almost this exact project, sitting on my couch trying to come up with a plan forward!
the next few vids are going to be invaluable for you. Cheers!
Jeff is Riobel your favorite system? Especially their Shower Valves! After dealing with the water torture of a dripping water heater connection. In changing out the old galvanized to pvc with the Pex b. I was going to go with Delta product Shower valve R series, then I began to watch your Channel. Thanks to you and your family
Jeff excellent work every time! I need your help here in Chicago. Can you come down and help us do two bathrooms.
At 22:57, you were talking about how you needed to prime and use solvent on both ends of the connections, and you put the primed and solvented P-Trap piece onto the unprimed and solvent free PVC straight piece. Why did that connection not need both sides primed and glued?
Two kinds of fittings? That's why I hate plumbing!
Jeff please if u read this take apart that water piping and redo it in cpvc glue, u used pvc glue which isn’t the same thing you will have failures down the road. You want to use the yellow or orange colored glue, save urself thousands of dollars before it’s too late
I posted on another video in this series that the easiest for DIYers would be to always use the oatey all purpose cement which works for abs, pvc, cpvc etc.
@@HomeRenoVlsionDIY I live in Florida and know the code well if you have any questions don’t hesitate to ask 👍🏻
ouch - plumbing is so frustrating - I was surprised you didn't convert the cpvc to pexB
I thought about it but they didn't have the fittings at my local store so I kept it real. I hare driving for an hour just to buy a fitting at a larger store.
And that's why we call it construction lol...MOBILE HOME REMODELING. Ideal with this daily lol.🌴😎
Hey Jeff, question for ya buddy. I'm renovating my grandfathers house for my family to live in, it currently is built with 1x4 subfloor. should i be re-doing the whole room's subfloor or just replace the problem areas with 3/4" OSB/ plywood.
Ahh carpenters doing plumbing gotta love it
@HomeRenoVlsionDIY what you wanna discuss cheech
Did you glue the first joint of the P trap? Didn't see it
It didn’t seem like it since he rotated it but who knows maybe off camera
Use pex
Jeff, how often do you come across asbestos in your renovation projects? Or do you avoid it at all cost and walk away? I’m asking because I’m looking to buy a house, but many in my market are built pre 1979. I hate seeing the potential for a great DIY renovation, but then likely facing the cost and health risks associated with asbestos.
Why you use the white PVC over black abs?
So that glue abd primer is in the supply line?
I'm going to be doing a bathroom remodel on one of my rentals. It currently has a tile surround that's fine, just the pan has to be replaced. After I'm done for ease of cleaning do they make a transparent glaze to put on the tile so mold and other stuff can't grow in the grout.
yes it is actually called grout sealer. you apply it with a thin brush that usually comes with the bottle. Cheers!
lol screwed up the drain back to the store screws up the water supply back to the store. Home Depot must love you.
Jeff cpvc fittings are tapered that is why they want to push the pipe out.
Forgetting that coupling really brought out your uncle red.
Jeff, look at 51:58. No glue on the pipe that connects to coupling?!
So he's in Florida now?
did this work on a work visa. next project is back in Ottawa! Cheers!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY cheers from NC!!
Another great video! Thanks!
What was that yellow drain thing you used? I didn't see the link.
My local hardware store no longer allows returns. Nearest hardware stores that take resturns are an hour away. I just keep stuff for later.
Speaking of raccoons, we had to evacuate after a hurricane and when we came back, raccoons had come in through a broken door and ransacked out house. They dragged trash from outside inside, knocked everything off the shelves in the pantry, ,knocked almost everything out of the cabinets, knocked everything off the counters, tore stuff open, stole utensils and really wrecked the place. I didn't know what had caused the mess at first but one night I walked into the kitchen to see two raccoons standing on their hind legs while my little dog barked at them.
At least it was a rat coming out of the hole and not a snake. I still remember a news story about a man who got bitten on the 3 piece set by a 10ft python that somehow got into the drains and climbed up inside the toilet. And my dad had a co-worker who had a copperhead come up from the toilet while he was sitting on it. He jumped off the toilet, grabbed his gun and shot up half of his bathroom-- but the snake got away.
I don't think that's CPVC for the drains. It looks like schedule 40 PVC. You can see the CPVC water supply is off-white but the PVC is white.
I never would have been able to lift that tub by myself. LOL. It looks bulky. I'm glad you are centering the tub filler and leaving room to clean around the tub. Not having enough room to clean is one of my pet peeves.
I've had to re-use elbows when the store was out as well.
would this apply for this scenario? I have a duplex and the bathroom on the first floor is directly underneath the bathroom above and you can hear ppls pee when they go to the bathroom lol is there a way to stop this from either end? The toilet surround or even with sound dampening in the bathroom or through the ceiling in the first floor bedroom?
Make life easy use PTC and pex
I wonder who the genuis was that thought MDF was a great subfloor. Found that crap in my bathroom during my reno.
Should i redo my master bathroom? 370k house in houston.
Would shark bites not work when running the water lines?
At the 51:54 mark you didn't put any of the stuff on the pipe laying on the floor! Just noticed that lol
I have problem with our bath tub drain. Who ever installed the drain they used silicon caulk even on the thread. I was trying to replaced but I broke the top of the drain. Now only the pipe thread and chrome thread left. I don’t know how to removed it. Silicon make like both pvc and chrome are glued. Thank you!
Lol that must have been a common tub for 80s mobile homes, basically had the same one and similar made counter to one side of it
yup. nothing like a mobile tub that looks more like a shower pan.
From all that CPVC shaking I just assumed all of it was cracked or broken.
hello
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Looks like someone had a trip to harbor freight.
trying to buy cheap tools while on a work visa in Florida. they work but man i miss my dewalt stuff.
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY Time to become a permanent resident.
What would you say the average cost is for that job
this was basically just blood n sweat and tears so just a few hundred in materials so far. To hire it out would be roughly 2 thousand these days.
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Why don't you keep a small inventory of plumbing parts so you don't have to run back and forth to the hardware store?
Man, seems so nice having a crawl space. Meanwhile I got a post-tensioned slab on grade... don't see how I can move the plumbing!
just cut out the concrete! Cheers!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIYneed to figure out where the cables are first to avoid sadness
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY But the post tensioned cables are running through it, how can you avoid them? Thanks for the response though!
@@JohnChuprun Cutting into these is very dangerous because of the risk of hitting a tendon. Get a pro.
@@YellowBunchofBananas Yeah I know, not sure how a pro can find where they are either though. There are some ground mapping radar companies out there, may need to employ one of them to map the concrete area to find the tendons. Even then, the tendons are in a grid which will make moving piping through it difficult if not impossible.
You were talking about going to the store to buy things if you're a contractor why don't you buy a box of 90s a box of tees. a box of couplings. it takes so long to go to the supply house that you should buy stuff in advance and have a fully stocked truck. At the least, you should have a toolbox full of PVC fittings and a gas box for when you do gas. buy a case of 1900 boxes and couplings and box fittings.
at 44:33, did I see some animal looking up at Jeff. Look close.
Its insulation moving in the wind, the lighting moving creates even more movement illusion.
That fence pro guys has videos from Jeff critiquing his work. Idk who's wrong or right o well
I just gotta say...I hate tubs, I especially hate freestanding tubs that you have to climb over to get in and out of, not only is it a PITA but it's also dangerous! All that beautiful shower space you could have and you chose a tub...I don't get it. Not that I am in the market in Florida, but In any market I am in, I'm looking for a walk in shower! It works for everyone, they do sell those shower chairs.
I just finished renovating the shower in the other side of the bathroom. videos posted. this will be a 4 piece bath. Cheers!
Glue
Ok but I have one of those old, enamel over iron or something old tub? How to remove that without taking out a wall is beyond me. This is why I haven't even thought about a bathroom redo. Not that losing that wall would be a big deal if not every new damn nail didn't need inspected by crooks on a freakin' weekly basis. I HATE THE GOVERNMENT!
You have to shatter it break it up to remove it Big Hammer 😢
Cast iron cuts with proper blades I cut mine into thirds
You didn't cap the water.... guess there is no toilet tonight
Safety glasses make some ppl look smarter if not work smarter.
never heard "the good news is we have cpvc"
It amazes me how many people don't glue pvc and hold it for the recommended time (even 10 seconds would be sufficient) check time stamp 22:00.... wow, usually you can see the fitting push back apart a little if not held for a few seconds, not that he would tell us if he had to redo the drain due to leaking anyway, don't follow this practice.....
I saw that. I was wondering why he didn't glue it. 🤔
Red and Yellow kill a fellow, red and black venom lack. 😅
Welcome to the Americas whether South or North snakes is in the midst.
Raccoons trying to live there rent free
That "red and yellow" is really timid with small teeth. You'd have to force yourself into its mouth to make it bite and kill you. Rattlesnake is way more dangerous.
Coral snakes are lmuch less likely to bite than a rattlesnake and can only inject a small amount of venom BUT their venom is about 20 times stronger.
Center???? Soooooooo you have your tub with a drain in the center?
yes I am going with a free standing tub.
Why don’t you use ABS
fire
Florida.
san tee on its back
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That's not a bath it's a troth
Nice puke green paint! 🤮🤮🤢🤢. Haven’t seen square edged counters like that since the 70s. This reno was over due!
If yellow touches black youre ok jack. If red touches yellow youre a dead fellow.
Cement…sorry
Never mind…you are using pvc…sorry
This channel is definitely a comedy channel 😂 if you're into DIY, do not use this man's advice! What's with all the grunting sounds as well 😂
oh my god jeff wear a mask and earplugs. i don't know how you can tolerate it
Code requires 2" DWV for a tub drain. Looks like you are using 1.5".
wrong
24:15 mark on the install. Does another piece of pvc go into the trap and then the rubber gasket goes around it and the tailpiece from the tub drain? I don't see it shown in either video. Also. Do they sell the tub drain needed as they all differ on these free standing units? The last time I did one it had this tiny drain connected with a long vacuum cleaner type drain tube. Not standard and hard to mate to the drain. It was terrible. Thanks