Indiana Jones and the Nearly Great Sequel | The Story of 'Kingdom of the Crystal Skull'

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  • Опубліковано 27 чер 2023
  • It's not that good but it's also not that bad. Let's look back at how the divisive 4th Indiana Jones film came to be.
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  • @williambeckett6336
    @williambeckett6336 11 місяців тому +759

    Ford didn't shoot the arab swordsman in Raiders because he hurt his back. He did it because he, like the entire cast and crew were suffering from essnetially dysentery from local food and wanted the shoot to be over.

    • @MonkeyspankO
      @MonkeyspankO 11 місяців тому +84

      Except for a certain genius who packed canned food.

    • @teammartin95
      @teammartin95 11 місяців тому +80

      He was getting it mixed up with Ford hurting his back from a stunt in Temple of Doom

    • @BenLaurence
      @BenLaurence 11 місяців тому +31

      I glad that out of this 18 minute video that this man put time and effort into, this is all you took away from it

    • @ugosmith7529
      @ugosmith7529 11 місяців тому +98

      ​@@BenLaurenceso we should not correct a mistake he made and just let the misinformation continue unhindered? Noting a mistake he made does not invalidate the effort he put in making the video but it should be addressed to prevent further misinformation.
      Your assumption that "this" was all the commenter had absorbed from the video reeks of a misplaced air of perceived superiority.

    • @JimmyTimmy-wh8dz
      @JimmyTimmy-wh8dz 11 місяців тому +7

      First film way better than the rest

  • @brick6347
    @brick6347 11 місяців тому +337

    I took a hot girl on our first date to see Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. 15 years later we're married with kids, so it's always going to have a special place in my heart... even if it is a bit crap.

    • @dimesonhiseyes9134
      @dimesonhiseyes9134 11 місяців тому +20

      I went to a drive in with a girl I was infatuated with. 15 years later we are sorta kinda friends and that's about it. 😂

    • @bimoprasetyo6862
      @bimoprasetyo6862 11 місяців тому +4

      NICE 👌🏻❤

    • @Toybinging
      @Toybinging 11 місяців тому +1

      Where else did you leave this comment,?

    • @brick6347
      @brick6347 11 місяців тому +2

      @@Toybinging nowhere

    • @nocomment6035
      @nocomment6035 11 місяців тому +1

      Love this

  • @rosebyanyname
    @rosebyanyname 11 місяців тому +164

    The two people in this movie who look like they’re consistently having fun are John Hurt and Cate Blanchett. Hurt is playing the kooky, out-of-it Oxley to a T, and Blanchett balances the smarminess of past Indy villains with her own brand of intimidation.

    • @motherplayer
      @motherplayer 11 місяців тому +1

      I'd argue Ray Winstone was a worthwhile addition to things. All his issue is is that his character just isn't very consistence, but as far as he goes, he was a great choice.

  • @Morgil27
    @Morgil27 11 місяців тому +71

    Your editing back and forth between Lucas and Spielberg is just gold 😂

  • @JR-ej9up
    @JR-ej9up 11 місяців тому +33

    I love this. Old friends challenging each other creativity. Steven is the builder. George is the planner. And together they create these films.

  • @BugsyFoga
    @BugsyFoga 11 місяців тому +139

    It doesn’t feel right knowing it’s been 15 since Kingdom of the crystal skull came out.

    • @jool5941
      @jool5941 11 місяців тому +1

      Feel old

    • @DANIELLONE-ir1on
      @DANIELLONE-ir1on 11 місяців тому +2

      15 years is not a long time like yesterday lol

    • @michaelpanetta2161
      @michaelpanetta2161 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@DANIELLONE-ir1onIt's 1/5 of an average lifetime.

    • @DANIELLONE-ir1on
      @DANIELLONE-ir1on 11 місяців тому

      @michaelpanetta2161 Dude I was a grown ass man in 2008 I was 17 to 18 on my way to college I was driving working partying having sex going to the prom in 2008 to me 2008 is yesterday I am 32 years old now I am still young and fresh lol

    • @DANIELLONE-ir1on
      @DANIELLONE-ir1on 11 місяців тому

      @michaelpanetta2161 I actually was around 17 I was a man back then when I downloaded the movie in 2008 15 years later I still like the 4th movie its entertaining, depends on your age I don't see any difference between 2008 to 2023 the only thing that changes is the years

  • @LilyRose8959
    @LilyRose8959 11 місяців тому +84

    I've always liked Crystal Skull. I liked seeing Indy and Marion back together and, with Mutt, working together as a family. Shia was good in this, and had good chemistry with both Harrison and Karen.
    I saw Dial of Destiny today and, while I didn't hate it I think I like CS more simply because we get more of Indy and Marion together.
    When DOD comes out on DVD I might watch all 5. There's something to enjoy in all of them.

    • @cheetahluv210
      @cheetahluv210 10 місяців тому

      Why are you sticking with dvd what’s wrong with blu ray

    • @stijnvdv2
      @stijnvdv2 10 місяців тому +1

      It was good.. as an average independent adventure movie... it sucks however as an Indiana Jones... but then leave it to Kathleen Kennedy to fuck things up even durther with Indiana Jones 5.

    • @youtubegarbage7876
      @youtubegarbage7876 10 місяців тому

      This isn't Twilight or some crap TV show.. Fans don't care about who is married to whom. If that is why you like these moveis, you ar ein the wrong genre.

    • @MrMejia187
      @MrMejia187 9 місяців тому +1

      I agree dude. Everyone has such strong harsh opinions, but at rhe end of the day. An Indy movie is better than the average blockbuster. Some are near perfect and others are just fun enough! That's good for me.

    • @legomasteramazing
      @legomasteramazing 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@youtubegarbage7876You're kidding right?, then why the f the three movies had a love interest for Indy?

  • @andrewrivera4046
    @andrewrivera4046 11 місяців тому +16

    That shot of Mutt securing his bike in the airplane has always been one of my favorite moments.

  • @theflyingninja1
    @theflyingninja1 11 місяців тому +17

    I loved that, before the title was revealed, Harrison Ford was going around telling interviewers it was called 'Indiana Jones and the Orb of the Mer-Man Prince'.

  • @jwnj9716
    @jwnj9716 11 місяців тому +527

    I never hated part 4. It doesn't beat the first 3 films but you can have fun with it.

    • @roberttreacy8271
      @roberttreacy8271 11 місяців тому +26

      Same here.

    • @handznet
      @handznet 11 місяців тому +39

      Same. It was respectable ending of the franchise. Oh wait..

    • @taionalmeida5337
      @taionalmeida5337 11 місяців тому +8

      As a teen, with few things that I remebered From The First 3 movies (Id watch them but not giving much atention as a kid) I really enjoyed the movie and considered a pretty decent one.
      I would Go Far - is not Just better than most action movies Of nowdays but better than some movies Of Its time.
      Visually is much more compeling than a bunch Of movies that where heavy CGI based like the Star Wars prequels and some movies that came after.

    • @thedinobeaver
      @thedinobeaver 11 місяців тому +6

      It has a few good moments, but all in all it's pretty bad.

    • @WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS
      @WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS 11 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, but you can laugh at irl car crashes as well, doesn't really mean you should.
      Honestly with some adaptation and yo be quite honest a whole heap less of George it could have been a good movie.

  • @RobPanico
    @RobPanico 11 місяців тому +29

    15:41 - Actually, Harrison had diarrhea and that's why they changed the scene. He hurt his back in Temple of Doom and resorting to re-framing the fight scene with his stunt double, saving the close-ups for another day. Brilliant flexible filmmaking! Great essay btw, love your use of clips, the Planes, Trains & Automobiles one really got me hahaha

  • @DreamWolfPics
    @DreamWolfPics 11 місяців тому +32

    This is a really good analysis. He tells the story of how the film came about, acknowledges the good and the bad, and says how he thinks it holds up compared to other movies. Awesome.

  • @mattyt1961
    @mattyt1961 11 місяців тому +67

    You could read Indy not realising who Mutt's mother is as Indy not wanting to think of himself as a bad/absent father so he 'refuses' to make the connection. He likely never wanted to be a bad father and generally sees himself as a good man, so by admitting he likely had a kid that he ignored/avoided (even if un-intentionally) might have been too much of a blow to his ego.
    However, in the film, it really wasn't handled that way and there is no indication the writers intended to go down that path.

    • @Lazrael32
      @Lazrael32 11 місяців тому +18

      or you could just take his "there were a lot of marry's" as fact. He has always been good at solving ancient puzzles. He's always been bad with releationships. he couldn't even figure out the girl was using him in Last Crusade.

    • @firestriker3580
      @firestriker3580 11 місяців тому

      All false and it was handled that way and there is tons of indications that the directors want to do this

    • @favoritemustard3542
      @favoritemustard3542 3 дні тому

      @🔥striker "all false"? Then what in the world do you mean by "this"?
      If everything OP said was false... huh?
      I'll give you credit for saying more than just "wrong" but you might as well commit & speak your mind.

  • @leestevenson1236
    @leestevenson1236 11 місяців тому +17

    I’m so with you on how the 50’s scenes are it’s greatest moments. I go back to this film just for those parts and the chemistry between Shia and Ford.

  • @roberttreacy8271
    @roberttreacy8271 11 місяців тому +35

    Fun fact: Originally, Willie, Short Round, Sallah, and Henry Sr. were to appear at Indy and Marion’s wedding.

    • @jasonschlierman412
      @jasonschlierman412 11 місяців тому +4

      I’m sad they didn’t. That’s what the wedding was missing.

    • @Kpengie
      @Kpengie 11 місяців тому +7

      I know that the filmmakers approached John Rhys-Davies and Sean Connery to appear. Both said no, Rhys-Davies as he felt the part was too small to be meaningful and Connery because he was retired. Not sure if Kate Capshaw or Ke Huy Quan were asked, though Capshaw at least would be an easy person to get if she was going to be in it, given that she's married to Spielberg.

    • @jasonschlierman412
      @jasonschlierman412 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Kpengie Rhys-Davies should have had a bigger part in it. I'd have written out Mac and replaced him with Shalla and not made him a turn coat.

    • @actionstudios9502
      @actionstudios9502 Місяць тому +2

      Why would Willie be there? That’s his ex

    • @roberttreacy8271
      @roberttreacy8271 Місяць тому

      @@actionstudios9502 Since Willie’s a singer, maybe she could have performed at the reception.

  • @thephoenixfoundation8095
    @thephoenixfoundation8095 11 місяців тому +28

    I actually loved KOTCS... I just appreciate it for what it is... another chapter in the story of the life of indiana jones, and with all cold war and roswell of that era it actually fit for the time that had passed since LC...

  • @wstine79
    @wstine79 11 місяців тому +8

    Mutt: "Are you a UA-camr?"
    Hats Off: "Part time."

  • @Mike-wr7om
    @Mike-wr7om 11 місяців тому +16

    I really like the opening half of Crystal Skull. I agree with your analysis. It starts off pretty good. The relationship between Indy and Mutt is good to start off. This movie reminds me of Hook, another Spielberg movie that starts off great in the first half, but falls apart over the second half.

  • @JoeyArmstrong2800
    @JoeyArmstrong2800 11 місяців тому +212

    Watching them ride off into the sunset at the end of The Last Crusade was the perfect ending to the series. You know there would be more adventures for the characters but we just wouldn't see them except in our imaginations.

    • @MyRetroLife
      @MyRetroLife 11 місяців тому +19

      Back when most film series were Trilogies… the way they should be.

    • @peterconlon8234
      @peterconlon8234 11 місяців тому +4

      Yaaaawwwwnnnn.....
      Every true Indy fan KNEW they were all contracted for more films so ones lack of basic knowledge doesn't trump the FACT everybody who'd payed attention knew there'd be more...

    • @billymanziel5666
      @billymanziel5666 11 місяців тому +14

      People put to much weight on Indiana Jones being a film series rather than a collection of films that aren’t meant to tell a connecting story. Indiana Jones is not Star Wars. They are stand alone films that happen to feature the same character.
      Everyone knows they’re inspired by adventure serials but I don’t think many of you actually internalize what that means. Indiana Jones was never meant to have a clean send off where his story is wrapped up in a nice little bow. There will always be a next episode.

    • @peterconlon8234
      @peterconlon8234 11 місяців тому +3

      ...guess you never heard of James Bond...or Planet of the Apes...or George Lucas' 9 or (depending on the day) 12 part Star Wars saga...or the 6 original Star Trek movies...or...

    • @sPi711
      @sPi711 11 місяців тому +2

      This film, like many other sequels, is little more than a money grab. Any fan of the series who sees anything else is struggling to maintain the suspension of disbelief.

  • @MerelyAFan
    @MerelyAFan 11 місяців тому +184

    I was always deeply impressed that even after 1989 there was an Indiana Jones story that kept the spirit of the original trilogy, while still being unique, and even managing to really hold up to this very day.
    That of course, was Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis PC game. Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is also a thing that exists.

    • @fshoaps
      @fshoaps 11 місяців тому +4

      Lots of good video games, not to mention Young Indy.

    • @Argaroth666
      @Argaroth666 11 місяців тому +4

      Indiana Jones and The Infernal Machine also had a great story.

    • @KoopaMedia64
      @KoopaMedia64 11 місяців тому

      A paper thin story, but Infernal Machine is still good.

    • @maxis2k
      @maxis2k 11 місяців тому +1

      Like with the Thrawn Trilogy for Star Wars, it's baffling to me that these people didn't just do the easiest thing. Which was to adapt something that was already good. Yes, often times the easy thing isn't the best thing. But since Lucas didn't really want to do an Indy movie for over a decade and Disney just wanted a cash grab with Star Wars...why not? But in both these cases, you saw the people in charge insisting they be the only ones who could do it, just for the sake of controlling it.

    • @Lazrael32
      @Lazrael32 11 місяців тому

      @@maxis2k i don't even think disney wanted indy. they just couldn't get Harrison without it. My bet is that harrison will regret making this last movie. he has said he'll always make another indy movie given the chance though.

  • @RileySkye100
    @RileySkye100 11 місяців тому +13

    As polarizing and controversial as the film is, I never really hated it. Even when I watched it for the first time ten years after its original release, I didn't think it was as bad as many people build it up to be in the decade leading up to my first viewing.

  • @bilburns1313
    @bilburns1313 11 місяців тому +10

    The one thing I really didn't like in Crystal Skull is Indy easily getting out of the refrigerator. Those things had latches that only opened from the outside. When I was a kid in the 1960's, they were always warning kids not to play in abandoned refrigerators. Kids would lock themselves in, and never get out. It's the reason modern fridges are held shut with magnets instead of a latch.

    • @handznet
      @handznet 11 місяців тому +1

      Man. It is IJ - there are magical artifacts and voodoo rituals. If opening the fridge is your biggest problem then I think you need to calm down😄

    • @KasumiKenshirou
      @KasumiKenshirou 11 місяців тому +7

      We were getting those warnings on cartoons in the 1980s, too. I think M.A.S.K. had a PSA about this, where the fridge was in a garbage dump.

  • @Koalalover70
    @Koalalover70 11 місяців тому +58

    Say what you want about this movie. It gave us a funny Easter egg in New Vegas where what would happen to Indy realistically in the fridge

    • @Satellaview1889
      @Satellaview1889 11 місяців тому +5

      Out of all the moments in that film, that felt like John Wick falling out of a four story building and just walking it off to me. It just feels like the character for a single instant turned off fall damage, and while I love the sequence, I always laugh as the fridge bounces down the hill like four times.

    • @TheKaiTetley
      @TheKaiTetley 25 днів тому

      They Nuked The Fridge for the first time

  • @Transmission_Rory
    @Transmission_Rory 11 місяців тому +69

    It's fitting that you chatted about Speilberg & Lucas' overreliance on CGI in this video since you covered BASEketball on your podcast.
    What does that have to do with anything? Well, back in the early 2000's when those directors used digital effects to "remaster" their older films, Spielberg was planning on doing it for the Indiana Jones films. It wasn't until Trey & Matt made that South Park episode critiquing this practice that it convinced him not to go through with the plan.
    He even sent those two a letter after the episodes aired, even if Trey & Matt interpreted it to be a backhanded compliment. That said, they have gone on record stating that it's one of their proudest achievements, along with going to the Oscars in dresses.

    • @benbeesley4277
      @benbeesley4277 11 місяців тому +10

      I literally just referenced today how Spielberg replaced the guns of the FBI with walkie talkies in ET but had forgotten he was planning to go back and do "special edition" digital changes to the Indy trilogy. I remember that episode but had no idea it truly impacted Spielberg's decision. Thank god for that.

    • @the_original_Bilb_Ono
      @the_original_Bilb_Ono 11 місяців тому +10

      Let me finish your sentence: .... Went to the Oscars in dresses while tripping on LSD. Seriously.

    • @edwardleemiller-eo8jp
      @edwardleemiller-eo8jp 11 місяців тому +6

      @@benbeesley4277- and later on Spielberg apologized about the Walkie talkies and changed it back to guns.

    • @Clay3613
      @Clay3613 11 місяців тому

      @@benbeesley4277 The changes to the old Indy movies are mostly matte fixes and added effects during the Ark finale.

    • @kamdan2011
      @kamdan2011 11 місяців тому +4

      Lucas proved that he really was a trend setter, while Spielberg actually listens to criticisms and Lucas just buries his head in his money and ignores it.

  • @Jared_Wignall
    @Jared_Wignall 11 місяців тому +53

    I actually enjoy Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. It’s not the best in the franchise, but it’s ok the same spirit regarding the 1930s B-Movie serials that the other three are inspired by as well as having the religious aspects in the film as well. Regarding the nuclear survival in a lead lined fridge, Indy has survived a lot of things in the first three where he should have died or moments that are a bit out there, such as ghosts that will kill you when opening the Ark all as long as you don’t open your eyes and look at the Ark, falling out of an airplane in a inflatable raft and being fine and centuries old knight guarding the Holy Grail. When Indiana Jones 4 continues with the unrealistic stuff seen in the previous films, people get upset, despite the other films not being very realistic in various parts the first place.

    • @7thsealord888
      @7thsealord888 11 місяців тому +7

      Good points. Yeah, compared with some of the crazy of previous movies, the Nuclear Fridge isn't quite so insane.

    • @WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS
      @WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS 11 місяців тому +1

      It's notably worse than anything else in the franchise, there's episodes of young indie that work better than the movie does.

    • @KoopaMedia64
      @KoopaMedia64 11 місяців тому +3

      I never understood it either. Apparently Christian artifacts, immortality and spirits are ok, but aliens are crossing the line.

    • @AnthonyMichaelAMguitar
      @AnthonyMichaelAMguitar 4 місяці тому

      Awful movie in every way. I bet you are young.

  • @benbeesley4277
    @benbeesley4277 11 місяців тому +24

    Terrific as always. Love how thoroughly researched and thought our your videos are and this one is no different. Rewatched Crystal Skull a couple days ago after having not seen it since 2008 and my feelings had not changed. The first half of the movie is really solid and then suddenly, at exactly the half way mark (right when Marion appears), there's a super noticeable downshift in quality and the movie feels completely different. Your observations definitely helped confirm a lot of the issues I had with the movie, mostly in its second half; and now knowing how many different rewrites there were and how bits and pieces were sampled from each one, definitely helps explain why things became such a mess.

    • @adamkane4217
      @adamkane4217 11 місяців тому +3

      In addition to what Matt laid out and what you observed--the movie shifts from a lot of outdoor, real locations to more sets and CG in the second half. The quicksand scene couldn't look more like a soundstage if they tried.

  • @wstine79
    @wstine79 11 місяців тому +154

    I'm probably in the minority, but I had no problem with "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull." It may not be strong story wise, but Harrison Ford was still great as an older Indiana Jones.

    • @Hack_The_Planet_
      @Hack_The_Planet_ 11 місяців тому +7

      “It may not be strong story wise” “but I had no problem” LOL. I can’t even imagine what your criteria for a good film is.

    • @KairuHakubi
      @KairuHakubi 11 місяців тому +1

      I never saw it, for that matter I haven't seen the classic ones all the way through, but I know this one looked stupid to me, until a friend explained that Indiana Jones is about pulp 30s stories, so naturally a few decades hence, we should be doing pulp 50s sci-fi stories. and after that, I accepted it.
      so I guess the new one should be all 60s James Bond flavored? Coming full circle since that was what they wanted to make in the first place haha

    • @Mr.Nyongo
      @Mr.Nyongo 11 місяців тому +4

      You enjoyed Shia Labeouf's terrible portrayal as knockoff Fonzi??

    • @AlejandroFlores-Ibarra
      @AlejandroFlores-Ibarra 11 місяців тому +7

      @@Mr.NyongoHe’s meant to be Brando in “The Wild One”.

    • @the-np4mr
      @the-np4mr 11 місяців тому +4

      That's what I've been saying. Genuinely think if it came out in the 90s with the exact storyline it'd have been perfect, 100%

  • @dimesonhiseyes9134
    @dimesonhiseyes9134 11 місяців тому +10

    I just remember wanting to watch this movie so badly. And then when i finally got a chance to see it the entire movie i was just trying soooo hard to convince myself that i was enjoying it.

  • @willythepeachfacelovebird
    @willythepeachfacelovebird 11 місяців тому +6

    I also find it quite amusing that the industry moved away from practical effects because they were expensive.

  • @lizzymayethebordercollie
    @lizzymayethebordercollie 11 місяців тому +30

    I love and appreciate this movie even more after seeing Dial of Destiny. Still some parts and the villain isn’t the best but it’s a fun movie that has the feel of Indiana Jones! Mutt is actually not a bad sidekick and character.

    • @dawsynasay4841
      @dawsynasay4841 10 місяців тому +3

      I enjoyed DoD, but it didn’t have that Indy magic that the originals had and even Skull to an extend. I do think Skull does everything better than DoD

    • @youtubegarbage7876
      @youtubegarbage7876 10 місяців тому +1

      I wiped myself with a rock and realized that wiping myself with the bark of a tree wasn't that bad after all.

  • @literallyhomeless1043
    @literallyhomeless1043 11 місяців тому +12

    the cinematography more consistent with the movies this fourth film is inspired by would have made a huge difference I think, maybe making it more palatable

  • @mohrproductions9534
    @mohrproductions9534 11 місяців тому +14

    I saw this movie in the theater back in 2008 and I loved that movie because it got me into Indiana Jones and I will always defend this film because it is a spectacular piece of cinema

    • @youtubegarbage7876
      @youtubegarbage7876 10 місяців тому

      I saw this movie in the theater back in 2008 with my dad. Dad is dead now and I wish we had done anything else that day.

    • @AnthonyMichaelAMguitar
      @AnthonyMichaelAMguitar 4 місяці тому

      It was an awful movie I feel bad for you young people

  • @bensneb360
    @bensneb360 11 місяців тому +24

    I saw this movie in theaters in 2008, and I loved it then, and I’ve always loved it, I like the 1950s B-movie inspiration, I like the action sequences, and I like seeing Indy ending up with Marion and getting married and a happy ending

    • @handznet
      @handznet 11 місяців тому +4

      Same.

  • @AddisonTaylorArtist
    @AddisonTaylorArtist 11 місяців тому +6

    Splendid editing, you’re getting so good at this 😂

  • @KrazyKuno
    @KrazyKuno 8 місяців тому +1

    I saw Crystal Skull once in the theaters and that was it. All of the points that you made like the movie feeling like 2 different films, them trying to hide the Marion reveal, the interdimensional beings with the flying saucer, etc was exactly why it felt like a fever dream rather than an Indy movie. Even Spielberg wasn't sure about it. I thought Dial of Destiny turned out much better, going with the formula that worked in the first 3 movies. Was it perfect? No, but it had a lot of great moments.

  • @rushmore309
    @rushmore309 11 місяців тому +6

    Haven’t watched the video yet, but just wanted to comment on this channel.
    The way “Hats Off” narrates and speaks on the media that he uploads, you can tell, and appreciate, his love and connection to them. Underrated channel.
    Love the John Hughes and John Candy coverage and tributes.
    I truly have enjoyed watching his audience grow. Well deserved.

  • @alittlebitofhistory
    @alittlebitofhistory 11 місяців тому +10

    By coincidence I am watching Kingdom of the Crystal Skull on TV at the moment, I hated this film when it 1st came out but I have come to appreciate it over the years, It certainly has its problems and as said in this video it is very much a film of 2 halves. It's a shame because it just seems it would not have taken much to have made it pretty good just change a few details here and there.

  • @ElliottRidgway
    @ElliottRidgway 11 місяців тому +17

    I feel so validated. I have literally used this video's exact same argument to defend the fridge scene for years. Kingdom of the Crystal Skull has its issues, but the nuclear bomb sequence has always been one of its high points for me.

    • @redlightmax
      @redlightmax 11 місяців тому

      5:42 And here's the timestamp.

    • @lucasoheyze4597
      @lucasoheyze4597 11 місяців тому +2

      It's the impacts. I've counted, that fridge bounces 14 times...even if he survived the blast, he should have multiple broken bones at very best.

    • @lynnbarsby7356
      @lynnbarsby7356 2 місяці тому

      Yeah but no daffter than using a snake as a rope or using a 'Duck' over 3 waterfalls (after driving it up a tree)​@@lucasoheyze4597

  • @histguy101
    @histguy101 11 місяців тому +3

    Okay, back in 2005-2006, cgi _was_ the "innovative way." I believe it was in 2007 or 08 that ILM's practical model shop essentially went out of business and closed down.
    Think about it. Avatar came out in 2009. In 2009, cgi was still being used to promote movies, and still helped to sell tickets as a new innovative technology.

  • @JihadiFemboy
    @JihadiFemboy 11 місяців тому +20

    Crystal Skull was always good

  • @silentbobstash
    @silentbobstash 11 місяців тому +1

    Really great video. Loved the editing of the Connery slap. Man, I remember going to see Crystal Skull with my kids on opening day. The moment that CGI groundhog showed up you knew the film was in trouble. "Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should..." or words to that effect

  • @carlosx1237
    @carlosx1237 11 місяців тому

    I love your channel including this video. Always hitting the right balance of nostalgia and thoughtful reflection.

  • @arcand25
    @arcand25 11 місяців тому +11

    Just watched Indy5, I had fun and can't really complain to be honest. I wasn't expecting another masterpiece, I just sat back and was open to the ride. I'm glad I went in blind from any reviews.
    I'm thankful I got to see Indy in a few more interesting cinematic scenarios and left the theater pretty satisfied and surprised at the absence of cringe inducing scenes that I had pre emptively prepared for.
    Tldr; fun lil toime at the moobiez, 6.5/10

  • @vertigq5126
    @vertigq5126 11 місяців тому

    Great video, thanks for the interesting background on this! Love your Indy content man

  • @JOSIExMODE
    @JOSIExMODE 11 місяців тому

    Great video. Your collection of clips and editing skills are always top notch.

  • @terrygordon5542
    @terrygordon5542 11 місяців тому

    I love your positivity. It really adds to the rewatchability of your videos

  • @MarkAMMarrk
    @MarkAMMarrk 29 днів тому

    Very informative and well made video. So many AI and long running, repetitive videos now, that yours really stand out as a labor of cinematic love. You got my subscription!

  • @MLJ7956
    @MLJ7956 11 місяців тому +3

    I'll still take Indiana Jones And The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull (aka Indy 4) over a lot of other 4th films in a franchine (such as Batman & Robin, Halloween Ends, Jaws The Revenge, Home Alone 4, Critters 4, The Next Karate Kid, Trancers 4: Jack Of Swords, Superman IV: The Quest For Peace, The Matrix Resurrections, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, Dark Phoenix, The Crow: Wicked Prayer, Thor: Love & Thunder, Terminator: Salvation, Men In Black International, Bloodsport 4: The Dark Kumite, Prom Night IV: Deliver Us from Evil, Spy Kids: All The Time In The World, Wild Things: Foursome, Alien Resurrection, Deathstalker IV: Match of Titans, Silent Night Deadly Night 4: The Initiation, Return Of The Living Dead IV: Necropolis, Citizen Toxie: The Toxic Avenger IV, Vegas Vacation, Bourne Legacy, The Cutting Edge: Fire and Ice, The Dirty Dozen: The Fatal Mission, Smokey & The Bandit IV: Bandit Goes Country, Midnight Run: For Your Life, The Concorde: Airport '79, The Stepford Husbands, Exorcist IV: The Beginning/Dominion: Prequel To The Exorcist, SEAL Team 8: Behind Enemy Lines, Poison Ivy 4: The Secret Society, Death Race: Beyond Anarchy, Omen IV: The Awakening, Meatballs 4, K-9: P.I., Ghoulies IV, Killjoy Goes to Hell, Alvin & The Chipmunks: The Road Chip, Species IV: The Awakening, Honey: Rise Up & Dance, House IV, A Dennis The Menace Christmas, Parent Trap: Hawaiian Honeymoon, Iron Eagle IV: On The Attack, Revenge Of The Nerds IV: Nerds In Love, Killer Tomatoes Eat France, Wishmaster 4: The Prophecy Fulfilled & Zombi 4 - to name a few awful 😝 4th entries in my opinion)....✌️

  • @StarWarriorCentral
    @StarWarriorCentral 11 місяців тому +12

    I may be different in this opinion, but my order of favoritism is
    1) Raiders
    2) Skull
    3) Crusade
    4) Doom
    Last Crusade was the first one I saw, but I watched the rest in 2008, when Crystal Skull came out. I enjoyed that they followed up with Marion's story and that they had a son together. Some of my friends even really liked the movie when it came out.

  • @stevekoller3314
    @stevekoller3314 10 місяців тому +1

    I'm gonna say it: I loved Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Sure, maybe it was a part of my childhood, but to this day, it still has a soft spot in my heart.

  • @pieterboelen2862
    @pieterboelen2862 11 місяців тому +1

    Good and pretty fair video.
    Shows some nice details about the earlier behind the scenes.
    Well researched! (Y)

  • @jediknightjairinaiki560
    @jediknightjairinaiki560 11 місяців тому +2

    15 YEARS?!
    WHERE HAS TIME GONE?! 😖

  • @slamrobot6584
    @slamrobot6584 11 місяців тому +2

    The slap cut is brilliantly done. Bravo.

  • @anthonyrebro9520
    @anthonyrebro9520 11 місяців тому +6

    This is great insight into the production of Indy 4. It makes total sense. I always defend the first hour as a really decent movie. After that hour mark, it’s a lot harder to get behind.

  • @cubeincubes
    @cubeincubes 11 місяців тому

    another great vid. your channel is growing wonderfully

  • @ModMax69
    @ModMax69 11 місяців тому

    PERFECT use of the Nothing but Trouble clip!!!

  • @CR41489
    @CR41489 11 місяців тому

    Joe, you summed up the movie perfectly. Thanks for the commentary. I’m seeing Dial of Destiny tomorrow and I really hope it’s good.

  • @willbeard4835
    @willbeard4835 11 місяців тому +6

    I really enjoyed crystal skull. Even if it wasn't as good as the originals it was still really good. Much like the star wars prequels. Just because they didn't measure up to the original trilogy doesn't mean they were bad movies. It's like saying because your dad was 7 feet tall that being 6'5 makes you short.

    • @youtubegarbage7876
      @youtubegarbage7876 10 місяців тому

      Or it's like saying that bad and lazy movies that are made wthout a fully fleshed out story are as good as movies that came out decades earlier and were made by talented people. Same same.

    • @lynnbarsby7356
      @lynnbarsby7356 2 місяці тому

      😅😅

  • @Alwyn2112
    @Alwyn2112 11 місяців тому +5

    I actually liked Crystal Skull. Sure, it’s not as great Raiders or Last Crusade, but it was still pretty good.
    …I think it’ll be way better than what I’ve seen for Dial of Destiny anyways.

  • @giovangciccareli1829
    @giovangciccareli1829 11 місяців тому +10

    Bro, Dial is going to turn this film into a beloved classic. Everyone LOVES Temple of Doom today but for decades it was the black sheep of the franchise.

    • @doddsino
      @doddsino 10 місяців тому

      Ask 'hardcore' Indy fans and they still hate ToD. I don't know why, since I think it's easily the second best after Raiders. Crusade is a good send off, but the toned down violence and rehashed themes of Raiders bogged it down. Then Skulls was a steaming pile of crap. Haven't seen Dial yet, probably never will. I mean, why would I need to see it considering I'd rather spend my time rewatching the OT for like the 500th time.

    • @experi-mentalproductions5358
      @experi-mentalproductions5358 9 місяців тому +1

      @@doddsino Surely the more "hardcore" fans love it the most?

  • @jarednesbitt2837
    @jarednesbitt2837 11 місяців тому

    The Nothing But Trouble nod in there was awesome! Great video and I can see you are also a man of great taste lol

  • @odalvarado
    @odalvarado 7 місяців тому

    i like how you use clips to make your points, clever editing and writing. good video

  • @producoesgomi1168
    @producoesgomi1168 10 місяців тому

    The idea of Sean Connery singing "fly me to the moon" is hysterical to me!

  • @delanashelton9229
    @delanashelton9229 11 місяців тому +3

    @HatsOffEntertainment
    If you don't mind me asking, but there are 7 movies & shows that I want you to review & hope to see them on your channel.
    1. The Adventures of Rocky & Bullwinkle (2000)
    2. The Animated Addams Family Movies (2019 & 2021)
    3. Scooby-Doo (2002) & Scooby-Doo 2: Monsters Unleashed (2004)
    4. Chaplin and Co (2011-12)
    5. The Brady Bunch Movie (1995)
    6. The Animated Three Stooges Show (1965-66)
    7. The Animated Laurel & Hardy Show (1966-67)

  • @alleyway3215
    @alleyway3215 10 місяців тому

    Nice job on this. With the exception of the refrigerator event, I like this film a lot up until Mutt flips over the table and they run away - roughly the hour mark.

  • @nisakssonfilms
    @nisakssonfilms 11 місяців тому +9

    Ok so I saw Dial at the cinemas today - not much to say. It was a movie.
    Thought I’d give Kingdom a first try back at home and WOW. Difference is so apparent - This movie is so much more fun! Really enjoyed despite its flaws.

  • @dereknight861
    @dereknight861 11 місяців тому +2

    12:00 I always assumed that, the Skull projected a message to Indy saying that Oxley’s mind will be saved should he deliver the skull back to Akator. Then you might ask “well why DOESNT Indy tell the group that’s what he’s doing then if that’s the case?”
    I guess it’s more of a FEELING than straight up “oh this’ll solve everything”
    Could also be that Indy knows if they hold on to the skull to keep it away from the Russians they’ll just hunt him and those closest to him incessantly And no WAY they’re just going to let the KGB get the skull willingly and attempt to get any sort of power that they’ve clearly seen is NOTHING of this earth and clearly can’t be countered.

  • @carlosa1553
    @carlosa1553 11 місяців тому +24

    It pains me that city of the gods version was never made... it sounded so promising

    • @GuineaPigEveryday
      @GuineaPigEveryday 11 місяців тому +8

      Reading the script it has a lot of enthusiasm and respect for the character of Indy. He’s not some tired old has-been, he enjoys life, there’s little details of his current life where he’s checking out archeology and enjoys it, and playing instruments to himself, small stuff like that.

    • @dawsynasay4841
      @dawsynasay4841 10 місяців тому +1

      It was promising, but it was still very poor for a first draft. It would’ve needed a ton of work to get it into a state where it could be filmed.

  • @olafpieters
    @olafpieters 11 місяців тому

    Great analysis. Thanks for sharing!

  • @detritus5761
    @detritus5761 11 місяців тому +2

    Great episode, in retrospect I wish Shia could have taken the mantle. But only if Disney didn't have control, so I guess it's impossible no matter what.
    But yeah, overall Crystal Skull isn't awful, it definitely isn't good, but it's not bad. Just horribly average.

  • @Epoch11
    @Epoch11 11 місяців тому

    Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes, thank you for making a video of what was exactly in my brain, might be in need of a recut version

  • @Psilocybin77
    @Psilocybin77 9 місяців тому +1

    Can you imagine how much cheaper it would have been to film a groundhog popping out of a mound of dirt?

  • @deadliteplus9188
    @deadliteplus9188 11 місяців тому +52

    I genuinely loved this film, and still do, and never got the extreme hate it got. I love that it wasn't the Nazis again and I love the elements of the Red Scare and sci-fi of the 50s. I can see why people didn't like it but the ending was great imo and I felt it was a good film in general.

    • @spenser9908
      @spenser9908 11 місяців тому +1

      It was at least better than Dial of Destiny. But old Indy is just something that robs me of the whole appeal of these movies. Indy is a cool mysterious action guy that we wish we could be. At no point during Crystal Skull did I ever want to be like him.

    • @benbeesley4277
      @benbeesley4277 11 місяців тому +6

      First half is really good, like he mentions in the video. Like you said, some great 1950s settings and the Soviets being the baddies...that's all terrific stuff, and then halfway through *POOF* all of that goes out the window.

    • @roberttreacy8271
      @roberttreacy8271 11 місяців тому +2

      KOTCS does have its issues, but honestly, I can’t bring myself to hate it.

    • @AlejandroFlores-Ibarra
      @AlejandroFlores-Ibarra 11 місяців тому +4

      The “Red Scare” wasn’t a scare. It was a legit concern that was proven to be true once Russia declassified Soviet era documents in the 1990’s. Look up the Venona Papers.

    • @AlejandroFlores-Ibarra
      @AlejandroFlores-Ibarra 11 місяців тому

      @@benbeesley4277Soviets or other commies being the bad guys in “Dial of Destiny” would’ve made more sense and historically relevant than digging up the Nazis as villains again.

  • @G34Ricky
    @G34Ricky 11 місяців тому +4

    Loved it. LUCAS sold it because of toxic fans. Not that I love Disney' s work, but, what would happened if some fans didnt behave like they did.

  • @ryantrudell4686
    @ryantrudell4686 10 місяців тому +1

    The wild thing about KOTCS is that you cut maybe 10 minutes out [gophers, nuclear fridge, a few cheesy lines], and add in the fact that Mutt is Indy's estranged son right when he first comes into the picture... this movie would've been a solid B to B+ for me, instead of the C- that it is.

  • @eggsforbreakfast2718
    @eggsforbreakfast2718 9 місяців тому

    the last few scenes of Dial of Destany are insane and
    I love it

  • @nathonso_edits
    @nathonso_edits 11 місяців тому

    Great video! Almost exactly my thoughts put into words! I still love this movie despite it's flaws, I was 11 when the movie released and was obsessed with Indiana Jones from seeing the originals on tv, playing the Lego game and having the sets, I even made my own whip and pretended to swing from things. There's a really amazing movie on par with the originals somewhere in this film, I really love all the scenes between Indy and Mutt, that should have been the focus of the movie, like Indy and his dad's relationship in the 3rd film

  • @RealJeffTidwell
    @RealJeffTidwell 11 місяців тому +2

    Last night, I watched Crystal Skull for the first time since way back in the theater in 2008.
    Verdict: it’s good
    Great? No. But it has great moments.

    • @mickidoesmedia
      @mickidoesmedia 11 місяців тому +1

      the shots have so much personality in spite of CGI VFX stuff of the time

  • @TheConcertCruizer
    @TheConcertCruizer 11 місяців тому +2

    They actually did go to the jungles of Hawaii to film that chase scene and others, but due to an incoming storm they had to move production indoors....Sometimes I think you people just wine for the sake of wining.

  • @Blankford777
    @Blankford777 11 місяців тому

    Chefs kiss! Thank you for this, it really is one of your best videos. I love how you worked in Indy getting slapped by Connery a few times to highlight some of the really bizarre and poorly thought out choices they made in Crystal Skull. "That's for blasphemy!"
    I believe the episode with old Indy is actually from S2E5 of "The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles". A lot of that young Indy stuff always confused me. Wheren't there two different shows and some TV movies? IDK. Funny story, that episode originally aired Mar 13, 1993 which was my 6th birthday and my bday party was canceled because the east coast got like 5ft of snow druing the '93 "Storm of the Century".
    The single sequence is Crusade when Indy is being dragged along the dirt wall hanging from the tank gun is more thrilling than all of Crystal Skull. That pretty much sums it up.
    Lucas really got Spielberg to "prequelize" Indy with all the CGI and cobbled together scripts. Such a shame because the movie does start strong and really devolves into nonsense by the time Shia is swinging from vines.

  • @RageONTv
    @RageONTv 10 місяців тому

    Really love your videos! It seems that every UA-camr is adamant to talk I’ll about the last Indy film . It’s not perfect but it’s not terrible and it is not a failure as they all say (mostly because they want views) I agree with your thoughts about Kingdom of the skull . I would love watching Ford grosserie shopping as Indy .

  • @andyheller2691
    @andyheller2691 11 місяців тому +2

    I enjoyed Indy 4. It was a fun movie. Looking forward to Indy 5!

  • @acadia5898
    @acadia5898 11 місяців тому

    how have i not found this channel before?!?! atleast i can binge your channel now

  • @Vampiranhador
    @Vampiranhador 11 місяців тому +5

    Never understood why so many hate and/or despise Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Sure it ain't like the trilogy that preceded it but it had Lucas and Spielberg, and provided decent closure for Indy: ua-cam.com/video/girTZVJOoec/v-deo.html

    • @AnthonyMichaelAMguitar
      @AnthonyMichaelAMguitar 4 місяці тому

      It was awful just like everything else in post 1999 world. I bet you a million dollars you did not see the originals when they came out????????

  • @MXOY99
    @MXOY99 11 місяців тому +2

    Loved Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Really fun.

  • @willmistretta
    @willmistretta 11 місяців тому +14

    I think the main problem with the fridge sequence isn't the realism, but that it just isn't cool. All three of those other examples you cut to of wild unrealism in the series are super cool. Iconically so.

    • @handznet
      @handznet 11 місяців тому +4

      There is nothing wrong with the fridge scene. It is cool and fun. It just shows how people In internet era nitpick about anything. Temple of Doom has the awful raft scene which would take same beating if internet was around

    • @Louis-wp3fq
      @Louis-wp3fq 11 місяців тому +3

      ​@@handznetNah. The raft thing is outrageous but has an element of dubious plausibility. "Could a raft function as a makeshift parachute well enough to slow you down enough to survive a fall... in a movie with big action set pieces where the hero is always surviving by the skin of his teeth?" It's silly, but it's not as silly as a guy wedged in an old fridge being launched by a nuclear blast and SOMEHOW not being concussed and shaken to death because... the fridge is made of lead? Even the loose "adventure movie" logic doesn't follow with that one.
      KotCS has a lot of good stuff in it, but that's not a strong element.

    • @Weatherman4Eva
      @Weatherman4Eva 11 місяців тому +6

      ​@@handznetforget the internet, I left the theater back in the day after watching crystal skull actively thinking how corny and unrealistic the fridge thing was without being influenced by the internets opinion

    • @diamond_dogs
      @diamond_dogs 11 місяців тому

      @@handznet The raft scene is miles better with more practical effects, and actually has some relevance to the plot (escaping Lao Che and getting to India). You could remove the fridge scene and the movie would hardly change.

  • @Burns_RED
    @Burns_RED 11 місяців тому +1

    1:05
    I never understood this mindset. "I have to watch it out of obligation"
    No you don't. Don't be a brand slave. If it ends with 3 for you, don't even acknowledge 4. I do the exact same thing with Mad Max.
    You're gonna be hurting if you force yourself to watch 5 when marathoning when that flop finally comes out. You have no idea how bad it's going to be.

  • @tcehaus2600
    @tcehaus2600 11 місяців тому +2

    I chuckle to myself when people freak out over him escaping the A bomb in a lead fridge but suspend their disbelief at knight sir bus pass chilling out in a grotto for 100s of years protecting the holy grail. Don't get me wrong I love love love The Last Crusade. The thing that really bugged me about the Crystal Skull was apart from being a Frankenstein story was that part about the snake saving them from the quicksand, it was silly they literally run behind the tent and it was so forced and unnecessary. The bit of the characterization at the end of crystal skull was brilliant when they tease mutt in the hat only for Dr Jones to snatch it off him and the music to kick in was an excellent moment for the franchise.

    • @SpacedCobraIII
      @SpacedCobraIII 11 місяців тому +1

      Because all that stuff is explained by the supernatural or magic whereas him surviving getting thrown/rattled around in a fridge at that propulsion is just movie magic. =P

    • @tcehaus2600
      @tcehaus2600 11 місяців тому

      😁

  • @nicholasgarcia6402
    @nicholasgarcia6402 11 місяців тому

    Absolutely nailed it!

  • @jacklost1613
    @jacklost1613 11 місяців тому +1

    the nothing but trouble clip! LOL amazing. Actually makes me want to give this one a re-watch.

  • @spacemanspiff3052
    @spacemanspiff3052 11 місяців тому +3

    I agree with this analysis. Upon first watch when the movie came out I was underwhelmed. Upon rewatching a few weeks ago, I liked it better. I remember it being a bit worse than it was. It’s still the worst of the first four (I haven’t seen the latest), but it’s not a complete ruin.

  • @laraidah
    @laraidah 5 місяців тому

    Nice work

  • @peterconlon8234
    @peterconlon8234 11 місяців тому

    Great points across the board...this fan agrees with every contention, summation.

  • @AllG98
    @AllG98 11 місяців тому

    That Nothing But Trouble gag was fantastic.

  • @brandonspain12345
    @brandonspain12345 10 місяців тому +1

    8:11 Back as early as 2000, it was reported by George Lucas that Natalie Portman would play Indy's daughter.

  • @TheLabRatMan
    @TheLabRatMan 11 місяців тому

    Your review nailed it. I've only watched it once and that was when it was in theaters in 2008. I can really never put my finger on why I didn't like it but you nailed it.

  • @wiseguymotionpictures1416
    @wiseguymotionpictures1416 11 місяців тому +2

    I don’t give a shit, I love this movie. Not ashamed to say I had a good time with it.

  • @CaseNumber00
    @CaseNumber00 11 місяців тому +1

    This made me remember watching a speilberg interview with him riding around the universal lot on a golf cart, anyway, he said he use to sneak into the back lot of Universal a lot and ask everyone questions. Thinking about that now, one today would be thrown in jail.

  • @dimitreze
    @dimitreze 11 місяців тому

    great video
    I agree with you on all of it

  • @robrigler2903
    @robrigler2903 10 місяців тому

    First video/person ive ever heard say about it feel like two different movies. Youre completely right.