FINALLY... someone running a product and actually following up with a long term review. Tired of the installation vids and no update on performance. Thank you RSR.
We should have another video with them coming sometime after KoH. We're going to see Josh with America Iron while we're out there and talk shop and I'm sure he'll be interested to see how ours are holding up.
I would like to for sure give an absolute praise for these ball joint deletes as I have them in my JKUR. I have spoken to Josh at American Iron and he was awesome and their customer service was amazing. Josh with Rock Solid Rig was also as amazing as he was a valuable source of information when I decided to get these. I see no setbacks with the design and they have performed flawlessly and have been tested thoroughly while I was wheel’n with Rock Solid Rig. Thanks to you guys!!!
I've had synergy hd balljoints for about 10k miles on 38s and almost 4k miles on 40s. I recently experienced bad deathwobble and everything in my suspension is tight and torqued to spec. It only happened in bumpy/washboard roads between 30 to 40 mph. I suspect that my BJs are bad. I might order a pair of these ones, the rebuildable part without having to press them out is a total game changer.
Exactly why we did it, we got tired of dealing with it basically every 6 months and it's been the best decision we've ever made. I love the fact it's supporting a "small" American owned company. It's also the best customer service you'll experience. I guarantee you!!
I’ve been following Josh with American Iron Off-road for a long time now. Almost since he started the Facebook group. He’s created one hell of a product! I’ve been waiting for my UD44 spicer joints to go out so I can get his deletes and never have to worry about them!
😂 nonsense, if that was the case, you'd eventually be able to install bj by hand. I have been running my 95 F350 since brand new... 27 yrs of replacing ball joints and they still require a press. Get out with that bullshit.
You have answered the questions I have had. Your videos have made all the difference. I also want to say I appreciate your conversational information versus other channels I have seen that sound more like carnival barkers trying to hock a product. Thank you.
Do these last longer than traditional ball-joints? Is the shaft / bolt of the ball-joint delete stationary? Once these are pressed in is there no need to press the housing back out? Is it just replacing the internals?
The shaft sits inside a spherical bearing that is able to be replaced. The cup stays in and never needs to be pressed out, just remove c-clips and remove the bearing and replace with a new one. They are extremely strong compared to other ball joints we've run and had friends destroy moog balljoints within 3 months. Strongly recommend these.
These ball joint eliminators have been beaten to death in Moab, on King of the Hammers in California, and numerous other insane wheeling spots, these eliminators are stout
No, Dana 60 axles from Ford and dodge, 92 and newer for Ford, 2000 and newer dodge. But... I would call the company, they offer the kit for the dana 44 in jeeps. They may be able to work for your rig.
Would one have to worry about dust and debris ending up in the bearings? I was thinking of a dynatrac balljoint set on my JL, but this seems to be perfect.
Interesting it seems like from a debris standpoint I should be a-okay then since I don’t wheel as often as I’d want. I figure if I do swap to them I feel like they’ll last longer on my jeep than others who wheel harder/more. One more question though, from what I know, the older ford king pin set ups had a longer turn radius vs the newer balljoint setups. Does swapping to the delete affect it at all?
@@gabrieldalcomune3044 that I can't really answer, but Josh with American Iron would be able to give you the exact answer. You can message him on his Facebook page.
@@gabrieldalcomune3044 that is not true at all. The king pin F350 and the later bj F350, single cab, 133"wb trucks were within 2 inches at 51'6" for kingpin, 51'4" for ball joint.
The ball joint setups on Dodge front ends do not carry any load. They're more designed just to Center the upper knuckle. Do these kingpins change that in any way?
@Rock Solid Rig LLC well my 4 month review is that one side speaks so bad. That I'm thinking of removing it. The steering dynamics is also different. They are tough but the noises is to much for me on the road.
Thanks for the updated review. Are these okay to run on a daily driven vehicle? Wouldnt the spehrical bearing wear a lot faster than a standard ball joint from seeing a lot of both street and trail use? How often you need to change out the bearings and perform maintenance? I often drive my rig 300 miles to the trail and back but I also drive it to work . Wondering if traditional ball joints are better in my situation? Any feedback with your experience would really help. Im just sick of ball joints.
We run these on our daily and just got back from a trip about 300 miles away. They have a 2 yr 30k mile warranty. I haven't had any issues and we wheel the hell out of it. We've put maybe 10k on them already and love the fact I'll never have to press joints again.
I have the upper deletes on my 95 F350, they are from Down to Fab industries, they only offer the upper BJE. They are greaseable and use brass bearings, 4 yrs and roughly 20k miles, daily driving, winter road extractions, Rausch creek off road wheeling, they are stout. I would recommend BJE on daily drivers and I'm actually switching to the American Iron version because they offer upper and lower BJE.
I installed these in Jan. I haven’t havnt had any issues until lately. They are hard to manually move and causes my tires to sway. Did I not lube them correctly? If not, can I still do that or do I have to service them?
@@RockSolidRig While driving, I needed constant input to keep the vehicle straight. While front end its off the ground, two hands were needed move it back and forth.(with our without tire) Definitely not as smooth as when I first installed.
@@Eyslava123 how are you moving the knuckle by hand? If you have power steering and the vehicle is off, you are either the incredible hulk or something.
They are a more expensive option that's for sure, not everybody sees the benefit of having them and that's fine. We weighed the pros and cons and determined for our use case it was beneficial to have them.
@@RockSolidRig I'm not denying they're usefulness at all. I would love to have some. But, there's no denying the expensiveness. Maybe the price will come down, or I build my own
FINALLY... someone running a product and actually following up with a long term review. Tired of the installation vids and no update on performance. Thank you RSR.
We should have another video with them coming sometime after KoH. We're going to see Josh with America Iron while we're out there and talk shop and I'm sure he'll be interested to see how ours are holding up.
@@RockSolidRig looking forward to it, stay safe brother
I would like to for sure give an absolute praise for these ball joint deletes as I have them in my JKUR. I have spoken to Josh at American Iron and he was awesome and their customer service was amazing. Josh with Rock Solid Rig was also as amazing as he was a valuable source of information when I decided to get these. I see no setbacks with the design and they have performed flawlessly and have been tested thoroughly while I was wheel’n with Rock Solid Rig. Thanks to you guys!!!
You are very welcome, I'm glad you've had the same experience with them that we have.
I love mine. Daily driving, loads of wheeling and completed the Rubicon trail. Got about 10k on my set and yeah they hold up and are solid!
I've had synergy hd balljoints for about 10k miles on 38s and almost 4k miles on 40s. I recently experienced bad deathwobble and everything in my suspension is tight and torqued to spec. It only happened in bumpy/washboard roads between 30 to 40 mph. I suspect that my BJs are bad. I might order a pair of these ones, the rebuildable part without having to press them out is a total game changer.
Exactly why we did it, we got tired of dealing with it basically every 6 months and it's been the best decision we've ever made. I love the fact it's supporting a "small" American owned company. It's also the best customer service you'll experience. I guarantee you!!
I’ve been following Josh with American Iron Off-road for a long time now. Almost since he started the Facebook group. He’s created one hell of a product! I’ve been waiting for my UD44 spicer joints to go out so I can get his deletes and never have to worry about them!
We blew our spicer joints after 6 hard months of wheeling lol, really glad we went with his product.
Addition too #2: every time you press a joint in/out the hole in the C, the hole gets bigger. Eventually never holding another joint in place
😂 nonsense, if that was the case, you'd eventually be able to install bj by hand. I have been running my 95 F350 since brand new... 27 yrs of replacing ball joints and they still require a press. Get out with that bullshit.
Great video and in depth review for sure.
Thank you very much, we will be doing a long term follow up and review after we get even more miles and crawling events on them.
You have answered the questions I have had. Your videos have made all the difference. I also want to say I appreciate your conversational information versus other channels I have seen that sound more like carnival barkers trying to hock a product. Thank you.
The best way I've heard these described... basically turns your dana 60 into a kingpin axle in theory
its more on the lines of a king pin for a dana turdy
Do these last longer than traditional ball-joints? Is the shaft / bolt of the ball-joint delete stationary?
Once these are pressed in is there no need to press the housing back out? Is it just replacing the internals?
The shaft sits inside a spherical bearing that is able to be replaced. The cup stays in and never needs to be pressed out, just remove c-clips and remove the bearing and replace with a new one. They are extremely strong compared to other ball joints we've run and had friends destroy moog balljoints within 3 months. Strongly recommend these.
These ball joint eliminators have been beaten to death in Moab, on King of the Hammers in California, and numerous other insane wheeling spots, these eliminators are stout
Will these work on a Dana 44 from a 1978 Ford f 250?
No, Dana 60 axles from Ford and dodge, 92 and newer for Ford, 2000 and newer dodge. But... I would call the company, they offer the kit for the dana 44 in jeeps. They may be able to work for your rig.
If American Iron can't help you, contact Down To Fab, he has old school dana44 eliminators for your rig.
Are you still able to get an alignment or will they make your tires wear uneven
Tires wear perfectly normal and alignment still works exactly the same.
Would one have to worry about dust and debris ending up in the bearings? I was thinking of a dynatrac balljoint set on my
JL, but this seems to be perfect.
They're pretty well sealed in there and at this point we have over 20k miles and zero issues.
Interesting it seems like from a debris standpoint I should be a-okay then since I don’t wheel as often as I’d want. I figure if I do swap to them I feel like they’ll last longer on my jeep than others who wheel harder/more.
One more question though, from what I know, the older ford king pin set ups had a longer turn radius vs the newer balljoint setups. Does swapping to the delete affect it at all?
@@gabrieldalcomune3044 that I can't really answer, but Josh with American Iron would be able to give you the exact answer. You can message him on his Facebook page.
@@gabrieldalcomune3044 that is not true at all. The king pin F350 and the later bj F350, single cab, 133"wb trucks were within 2 inches at 51'6" for kingpin, 51'4" for ball joint.
If it comes with a lifetime warranty it means they know they will fail at anytime.
great video
I'm using it for a month now and started to hear squeaking noise coming out when turning, any one faced that?
The ball joint setups on Dodge front ends do not carry any load. They're more designed just to Center the upper knuckle. Do these kingpins change that in any way?
Good Presentation!
Thank you very much, we'll be doing another follow up on them in the near future.
So you recommend it can that be use as daily drive also do i have to worry about alignment of caster and camber
These are a direct replacement for your normal ball joints. They do not have an impact on your caster or camber.
Do they make noise 🤔
I haven't noticed any noise from them at all.
@Rock Solid Rig LLC well my 4 month review is that one side speaks so bad. That I'm thinking of removing it. The steering dynamics is also different. They are tough but the noises is to much for me on the road.
@@taraaaron1242 you could swap them out for the DOWN TO FAB ball joint eliminator, it has grease fittings and uses brass insert bearings.
Thanks for the updated review. Are these okay to run on a daily driven vehicle? Wouldnt the spehrical bearing wear a lot faster than a standard ball joint from seeing a lot of both street and trail use? How often you need to change out the bearings and perform maintenance?
I often drive my rig 300 miles to the trail and back but I also drive it to work . Wondering if traditional ball joints are better in my situation? Any feedback with your experience would really help. Im just sick of ball joints.
We run these on our daily and just got back from a trip about 300 miles away. They have a 2 yr 30k mile warranty. I haven't had any issues and we wheel the hell out of it. We've put maybe 10k on them already and love the fact I'll never have to press joints again.
@@RockSolidRig That has me sold. Going to order a pair. Thank you!
I have the upper deletes on my 95 F350, they are from Down to Fab industries, they only offer the upper BJE. They are greaseable and use brass bearings, 4 yrs and roughly 20k miles, daily driving, winter road extractions, Rausch creek off road wheeling, they are stout. I would recommend BJE on daily drivers and I'm actually switching to the American Iron version because they offer upper and lower BJE.
I installed these in Jan. I haven’t havnt had any issues until lately. They are hard to manually move and causes my tires to sway. Did I not lube them correctly? If not, can I still do that or do I have to service them?
There is no lubing necessary, when you say hard to move, how hard?
@@RockSolidRig While driving, I needed constant input to keep the vehicle straight. While front end its off the ground, two hands were needed move it back and forth.(with our without tire) Definitely not as smooth as when I first installed.
@@Eyslava123 how are you moving the knuckle by hand? If you have power steering and the vehicle is off, you are either the incredible hulk or something.
You know what, I've priced these deletes, they're outrageously priced. I'll continue to use ball joints and replace as needed, that is in my budget
They are a more expensive option that's for sure, not everybody sees the benefit of having them and that's fine. We weighed the pros and cons and determined for our use case it was beneficial to have them.
@@RockSolidRig I'm not denying they're usefulness at all. I would love to have some. But, there's no denying the expensiveness. Maybe the price will come down, or I build my own
Pricing lifetime balljoints vs these and its not too far off. Looking at 80-100 per on traditional and you need 4 so 320 to 400 vs 550ish.
@@simonearley3411 I'm looking at 50$ for 4. And 250$ replacing them every year for 5 years. So I'll make my own deletes versus ever buying them.