Fun fact: statistically, Ice and Ground do the most collective damage to every possible type combination in the game. Mamoswine has an argument for the best possible dual STAB.
That explains a lot. In fact, the combination of Ground and Ice can hit for supereffective damage to 9 types (Dragon, Electric, Fire, Flying, Grass, Ground, Poison, Rock and Steel), while only being resisted by bug/water (Golisopod/Araquanid) or bug/ice (Frosmoth), as well as steel (Bronzong), Water (Rotom-W), Fire (Rotom-H) and Ice (Rotom-F) types with levitate and bug types with thick fat, almost all of them weak to rock coverage. When coupled with a monstrous 130 base attack, usable 80 base speed, good 110/80/60 base bulk and Ice shard, Mamoswine is a fearsome threat and one of my 5 favourite pokemon. Galar-Darmanitan is in that sense just overall a better Mamoswine, with more speed, coverage and power, at the cost of defensive utility, Ice shard and STAB Earthquake.
In terms of super effective STABS, Ground + Ice is the best in that front. But if you're looking for best neutral STABS, then the attention gets turned to Marshadow, and that's because no pokemon can resist both of its STABS. Normal + Ghost is the only type combo that can resist both Fighting + Ghost, and that combo hasn't materialized. (EDIT: Yes, I'm aware that Hisuian Zorua/Zoroark exist now, but those pokemon were released long after this initial post was made.)
Fun fact: In gen 7 before Buzzwole was banned from UU, people used Peck for Mamoswine's fourth move. While it didn't outright KO Buzzwole from full health, people were willing to sacrifice a Z-crystal slot for him, upgrading Peck into a hilarious Supersonic Skystrike. The set disappeared after Buzzwole's ban, but seeing Mamoswine take flight is the funniest thing competitive Pokémon has ever seen.
Mamoswine is one of the few pokemon in the game that can take its ice typing and turn it in to an advantage rather than a disadvantage, due to its monstrous attack, ice shard, and additional ground typing for a stealth rock neutrality. Ice shard is the reason mamo can work, because it allows mamo to hit so many pokemon with a powerful x4 priority move, and turns its ice typing from a defensive liability to an offensive strength.
@TheNintendoBustr abomasnow and glalie are still kinda bad in comparison to most megas, and the kyurem forms get by on their absurd stats. Mamo and weavile are really the only two ice types that can get by really well because of their typing right now, I think the other ice types high up would be better with a typing change. I say this sadly because I love ice as a typing, it's just not great competitively in most circumstances. Bulky waters pull off special attacking sets with ice coverage better than most ice types do it.
@@gundorf2063 Not true, there are definitely quite a few strong Ice types (Kyurem, Mamo, Weavile, Jynx, Crabominable) and even ones with great movepools. The issue is that Ice packs 4 common weaknesses while bringing only one resistance to the table - Ice itself. Add to the fact that most Ice types dont always have the best defenses and they become a pain in the ass to switch in and keep healthy. The Ice STAB just doesn't make up for it in most cases. Mamo's really only good because the Ground typing, not only because it gets a great secondary STAB, and but because it doesnt get worn down as easily by things like sand and Stealth Rock. No one would consider using it otherwise, no matter how strong it was.
There needs to be a separate voting area. The comments could be an interesting discussion area for different sets, but it devolves into *"HoW gOoD wAs pOlIwHiRl aCtUaLlY, i'Ll NeVEr GiVe Up oN mY SwIrLy WaIfU"*
@@jamesdinius7769 Quite the opposite actually, mamoswine doesn’t have the bulk to stomach the hits flying around in vgc, making thick fat usually unnecessary. Meanwhile, between incineroar being everywhere, and Landorus and Arcanine being fairly common as well, Oblivious blocking intimidate and Keeping Mamoswine’s attack pristine against them is incredibly important. Plus, base 80 speed is quite flexible for use in Tailwind or Trick room, amongst other speed control, which is commonplace in vgc, its speed is perfectly acceptable.
Its worth mentioning that Piloswine gets used a lot in Ice-monotype, due to it being the only mon you can switch into high power fire moves and it having stealth rock
@@gengarzilla1685 That is nice too, but not really the reason you play him. He just has a lot of role compression: You need a SpD tank? Here you go. You need something neutral for fire types? Pilo is there. You need a steakthrocker? Pilos does that.
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@@tesseract2144 well gen 8 didn't add in any new bug/water's so we still only have Golisopod & Araquanid....BUT we did get other strong bug's with the bug/fire Centiskorch, the bug/psychic Orbeetle and the bug/ice Frosmoth
@UCwYCMw3_JyLkpcKslNCcymg well you kinda deserved the spoil because 1:you looked at the comments 2:you watched the vid REALLY late But knowing which tiers it's been in doesn't matter for me since the important is why are they in those tiers
Pokemon GO Mamoswine also really helps me wipe the floor with premier cup, sometimes being replaced by magmortar or Gardevoir. Nonetheless, it is a great Pokemon who has some best friends with MudSlap Earthquake Excadrill, and DragonBreath DragonClaw Dragonite
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Honestly, not very good, the highest it's ever been is UU and even there it suffers from it's crippling weaknesses as well as a terrible special defense stat.
mamoswine is my favorite ice type and in my top 10 ever. i’m super glad you made a video and even more glad that it was and to an extent still is an absolute unit. you just need to make an infernape video and my life will be complete. merry christmas everyone!
Fun fact ice and ground either neutrally or super effectively hit every single type in the game. When they gave it thick fat it became so nice. Even the buffed oblivious is fantastic.
How good were Yanma and Yanmega actually?? Might as well keep the theme going with one of the more interesting Bug types that received similar treatment
Mamoswine and his magnetic brethren instructed a select few species how to fight the onslaught of their draconian adversaries, and now these "Fairy types" gather at the same spot every December 25th to pay their utmost respect.
Mamoswine is awesome. It was the original dragonslayer before Fairy types came around. But it's still an dragonslayer all around and having it into my team was an blast.
FSG made a joke about Swine Flu at the end of the video but now I’m starting to think he might have been onto something. I think the theme with Mamoswine is the changing time. Notice how Mamoswine’s Shiny has “Swine Flu” written all over it, and that was apparently before the incident even began. Come to think of it, the COVID situation is kinda similar. Gen 4: Swine Flu, Sinnoh games Gen 8: COVID-19, Sinnoh remakes
Good video, & Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays! Also, shoutouts to winning VGC without EVs. That's a good Mamoswine! But I am disappointed by the lack of commentary on Eviolite Piloswine.
Can we talk about how cool it is to have a good ice type around? Goddamn, just imagine how empty the decent ice types would be if Mamoswine didnt exist. Right now, besides Kyurem-Black, Kyurem-White, and freaking Arceus-Ice, (and arguably weavile, but I'd say they are on the same level basically) there is no stronger ice-type pokemon. And that has basically been the case for years : Weavile and Piloswine were the only two non legendaries decent ice type pokemon. And while Weavile fitted the frail fast f**ker niche, Mamoswine was the hulking beast that everybody was scared of for a while. Kudos to Mamoswine for making a horribly typing somewhat relevant, otherwise we would have basically been stuck to systematically using ice moves on non-ice pokemon for years on end.
Merry Christmas and thank you for showing some Pokémon in the competitive format. Although truth be told I'm a casual player however learning how the other side views some Pokémon is valuable so thank you.
Huh, I knew Mamoswine was useful, but I never realized how much of an anti meta machine it is. And anti meta is my favorite way to build a team. I need to train one of these things.
An perfect example that an Ice type Pokemon that can be good, just as long as it has the right combo typing, better stats, amazing movesets & good coverage. Mamoswine was great.
Maybe they should stop making every Ice type be defensive or just plain suck. The only somewhat passible defensive Ice Type is Aavalug who has niche on stall in OU.
@@felixlee9645 The Bug type was the least of its worries, honestly. It was the numerous other weaknesses that came with its type that it had to worry about. But even that didn't mean much for a sweeper, whose archetype usually gets done in by chip damage and priority moves. But once its checks were removed, that elf's smirk would be giving the Grinch a run for his money.
HELL YEAH ITS MA BOI I've used Mamoswine in OU and VGC since 2014 and it is a monster. The best set I used was assault vest mamoswine which decimated unsuspecting teams as they were caught completely off guard by a mamoswine living special super effective moves quite well especially fire moves. I really do think it's an underrated pokemon and the fact that it frequently moved between OU and UU shows that.
@@NerdX151 in gens 3-5 it's hard countered by sand stream (which was almost always present) in the other gens you still need 5 mons to support it. With the right team support you can make any mon work, but that still doesn't make it a good pokemon
Marc Liljeqvist it’s not in OU, it’s PU. In an ideal competitive scenario, Shedinja dies to virtually any entry hazard, status, and a ton of common coverage moves, like Hidden Power Fire. It’s not good.
Seldom is a mon so beastly looking, yet also somehow cuddly, but still totally wrecks all at the same time. Ugh I love Mamo so much it makes me want to cry.
I'd love you see you cover eviolite Pilowsine in the coming future, its one of the more sturdier walls with rocks and personally I've seen it many many times in overused
I'm interested to see how Mamoswine's future pans out since Gen8's change to Own Tempo, making Mamoswine now immune to Intimidate on top of Confusion! Obv it hasn't exactly taken Gen8 VGC by storm (yet??), but it really is a very dangerous, albiet, niche pick. Prankster Swagger from Thundurus-I and the even better Prankster Swagger AND Tailwind from Tornadus-I, can potentially make Mamoswine absolutely DEVISTATING vs a good amount of teams. With it's good match up vs VGC2020 staples like Togekiss (RIP) Incineroar, Lando-T, Regieleki, the new/old Kanto Legendary Bird forms, and (with the right support) even Mons it doesn't match up great against like Cinderace, Rillaboom, Tapu Fini, etc, I wouldn't be surprised to see Mamoswine rise in usage as the season goes on and even future seasons... Prob won't become a STAPLE by any means, but I could see it surpassing "niche" into a semi-regularly used Mon that teams need to be prepared for
I didnt see the typo the first time I saw this, but now that I do, I cant unsee it. I demand you fix the first "Piloswine" at once, please and thank you.
Merry Christmas, FSG 😊I wish you could do Piloswine more screentime, cause I feel it doesn't get the recognition it deserves in the lower tiers. Anyway happy holidays 👌
I heavily underestimated Piloswine in Gen III, since it looked unimpressive in comparison to Pokémon that I liked (Feraligatr, Hariyama, Espeon and Umbreon being the ones I used the most in Colosseum). But boy, was I amazed when Mamoswine was revealed. Shame that I barely used it after evolving it in Platinum.
Everyone gangsta till starmie uses scald or grass knot (252+ banded ice shard is a 91% 4HKO, starmie outspeeds and scald or grass knot is a guaranteed OHKO with life orb or expert belt)
Fun fact: statistically, Ice and Ground do the most collective damage to every possible type combination in the game. Mamoswine has an argument for the best possible dual STAB.
That explains a lot. In fact, the combination of Ground and Ice can hit for supereffective damage to 9 types (Dragon, Electric, Fire, Flying, Grass, Ground, Poison, Rock and Steel), while only being resisted by bug/water (Golisopod/Araquanid) or bug/ice (Frosmoth), as well as steel (Bronzong), Water (Rotom-W), Fire (Rotom-H) and Ice (Rotom-F) types with levitate and bug types with thick fat, almost all of them weak to rock coverage.
When coupled with a monstrous 130 base attack, usable 80 base speed, good 110/80/60 base bulk and Ice shard, Mamoswine is a fearsome threat and one of my 5 favourite pokemon. Galar-Darmanitan is in that sense just overall a better Mamoswine, with more speed, coverage and power, at the cost of defensive utility, Ice shard and STAB Earthquake.
Shirotaka Sinnohfetus tied with crabominable’s ice fighting
In terms of super effective STABS, Ground + Ice is the best in that front.
But if you're looking for best neutral STABS, then the attention gets turned to Marshadow, and that's because no pokemon can resist both of its STABS. Normal + Ghost is the only type combo that can resist both Fighting + Ghost, and that combo hasn't materialized.
(EDIT: Yes, I'm aware that Hisuian Zorua/Zoroark exist now, but those pokemon were released long after this initial post was made.)
Eternity_Lotus not true, grass+steel resists both stabs
@@smashmallow1012 Neither of those types resist Ghost or Fighting lmao
"Won the Madison regionals with a Mamoswine that he amazingly forgot to put EVs on"
Lmao XD
That's just so hardcore.
Imagine being that good at Pokémon
@@vivimannequin This post was made by the casual gang
@@vivimannequin In Dunkswine we trust!
Me irl
I love how every new gen there's just one more Pokemon Mamoswine absolutely smashes
Just goes to show, Ice and Ground together is a brilliant offensive combination.
@@gengarzilla1685 too bad it’s bad defensively . swine should be faster
@@bryanc1772 faster mamo would probably kill everything
Yeah, 80 Speed is totally serviceable if you know what you're doing here. Mamoswine is no Snorlax as far as Speed goes.
@@gengarzilla1685 not to mention it's typing covers both of it's weaknesses: ground>grass>ice
Ice>fire>ground
Fun fact:
In gen 7 before Buzzwole was banned from UU, people used Peck for Mamoswine's fourth move.
While it didn't outright KO Buzzwole from full health, people were willing to sacrifice a Z-crystal slot for him, upgrading Peck into a hilarious Supersonic Skystrike.
The set disappeared after Buzzwole's ban, but seeing Mamoswine take flight is the funniest thing competitive Pokémon has ever seen.
That sounds amazing
Supersonic skystrike has produced the funniest animations in existence i swear-
When pigs fly ig
💀
Strangely, Mamoswine's 1st set in the BattleFactory in Platinum/HgSs has peck for some reasons...
I really like Pilloswine's design . It's so simple and fluffy.
Smirks in gigantamax eevee
Piloswine is pokemon chewbacca
Same!
Piloswine has dot eyes
I like Swinub most
It's a small ball of hair, but it's so cute
Garchomp: "I fear no Poke-god."
Garchomp: "But that thing."
*Insert picture of Mammoswine.*
Garchomp: "It scares me."
Sick TF2 reference
Add Weavile too, as that thing dosen't even need to take a hit from Chomp unless it's scarfed
How bout focus sash ice cream? Blizzards with snow warning eh.
(Its a joke)
That Tf2 Refference xD
Very cool :D
Maniacally laughs in alola ninetales
Mamoswine is one of the few pokemon in the game that can take its ice typing and turn it in to an advantage rather than a disadvantage, due to its monstrous attack, ice shard, and additional ground typing for a stealth rock neutrality. Ice shard is the reason mamo can work, because it allows mamo to hit so many pokemon with a powerful x4 priority move, and turns its ice typing from a defensive liability to an offensive strength.
True dat. Only others I see due this are Ninetales with the Aurora veil for ou, sandslash for aurora veil for lower tiers and weavile.
@TheNintendoBustr Yeah true but those are legendaries and a mega.
Ice in general is a really good offensive typing. The problem was just that there weren't enough hard hitting Ice-type pokemons.
@TheNintendoBustr abomasnow and glalie are still kinda bad in comparison to most megas, and the kyurem forms get by on their absurd stats. Mamo and weavile are really the only two ice types that can get by really well because of their typing right now, I think the other ice types high up would be better with a typing change.
I say this sadly because I love ice as a typing, it's just not great competitively in most circumstances. Bulky waters pull off special attacking sets with ice coverage better than most ice types do it.
@@gundorf2063 Not true, there are definitely quite a few strong Ice types (Kyurem, Mamo, Weavile, Jynx, Crabominable) and even ones with great movepools. The issue is that Ice packs 4 common weaknesses while bringing only one resistance to the table - Ice itself. Add to the fact that most Ice types dont always have the best defenses and they become a pain in the ass to switch in and keep healthy. The Ice STAB just doesn't make up for it in most cases.
Mamo's really only good because the Ground typing, not only because it gets a great secondary STAB, and but because it doesnt get worn down as easily by things like sand and Stealth Rock. No one would consider using it otherwise, no matter how strong it was.
There needs to be a separate voting area. The comments could be an interesting discussion area for different sets, but it devolves into *"HoW gOoD wAs pOlIwHiRl aCtUaLlY, i'Ll NeVEr GiVe Up oN mY SwIrLy WaIfU"*
This needs to be top comment.
I completely agree. There needs to be a strawpoll esque site where people can leave suggestions.
this a 1000 times, there have been many times where the pokemon screams for more disscusion but everything dies with people suggesting pokemon.
lol
this.
it's shame this was made before gen 8, because the mammoth boi is immune to intimidate now, thus making it a fantastic landorus counter in vgc.
Cooool!
I think it actually still goes for thick fat over oblivious. At base 80 speed, it needs insurance against those hits.
@@jamesdinius7769 Quite the opposite actually, mamoswine doesn’t have the bulk to stomach the hits flying around in vgc, making thick fat usually unnecessary. Meanwhile, between incineroar being everywhere, and Landorus and Arcanine being fairly common as well, Oblivious blocking intimidate and Keeping Mamoswine’s attack pristine against them is incredibly important. Plus, base 80 speed is quite flexible for use in Tailwind or Trick room, amongst other speed control, which is commonplace in vgc, its speed is perfectly acceptable.
Most people run thick fat over oblivious to make it more bulky
@@kxngrxse1562 93% use oblivious while only 7% use thick fat
6:39 Bro, Yanmega dodged that.
Ice Shard: I'll pretend I didnt see that
Bruh
Biased Hitboxes
Lmao
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Its worth mentioning that Piloswine gets used a lot in Ice-monotype, due to it being the only mon you can switch into high power fire moves and it having stealth rock
Not just for Stealth Rock, I'd think, but also being neutral against it when you don't give it those boots.
@@gengarzilla1685 That is nice too, but not really the reason you play him. He just has a lot of role compression: You need a SpD tank? Here you go. You need something neutral for fire types? Pilo is there. You need a steakthrocker? Pilos does that.
@@weavilelover Its because of thic fat
@@weavilelover thick fat
@@weavileloverThick Fat halves Fire and Ice damage so it is effectively neutral to Fire.
Just like Dusknoir said in Mystery Dungeon, Mamoswine is truly the strongest ice type
Lol I remember that quote before fighting mamoswine and 4 glalies
Except galar darm be here so..
@@musique-ef3rz
One/Two years brought quite the changes, uh?
Kyrume white : ... *you dare challenge me mortal*
@@yizao9289
Mamoswine with Iron Head:
*YES*
Landorus T: Finally, I've found it!
*_The Scroll of Truth!_*
" _You are completely useless against Mamoswine._ "
Nyeeeeeeh!
But it learns Superpower!!!!!!!!!
RJ Ante Psssst *ice shard and choice icicle crash*
to be fair earthquake 2hkos mamoswine so it's not like mamoswine can switch in
you only need to do 17% to knock Landorus out with ice shard
@@rjante2236 one word ice shard
As a fellow Mamoswine lover, seeing this makes me want to go wreak havoc on some Dragons. Thanks FSG.
Mamoswine was killing dragons before it was cool
Steel King Benjamin
*easier
*Hydreigon used Focus Blast!*
@@goldenhydreigon4727 Mamoswine be like "Do you even *ICE SHARD* bro"
@@FakeSugarVillain
*I believe you have forgotten about Focus Sash.*
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That moment you win VGC WITHOUT EVs
HaCkER EXpOSEd
"You know the funniest part?" "What?" "I forgot to EV train this one" Everyone who lost because of that Pokémon "WHAAAAAT?!"
@@sealandrelevant1310"N-nani??"
Too thicc for the metagame
"What evs were on the mamoswine?" "None, I forgot them." "Oh..."
"Ice types suck"
*Pulls out Mamoswine*
You were saying?
Weavile: "Am i a joke to you?"
Yes
Abomasnow: Am I a joke to you too?
Kyurem Black: "I was supposed to be Uber."
@@fl4k_40 yep. As far as I'm aware, it is the only non legend other than garchomp to be banned to Ubers. (Excluding wobbuffet. That's an odd case)
Mamoswime was my favorite in DPP: amazing offensve typing, strong, bulky and has priority STAB. Sometimes I wish Tyranitar had Accelerock too.
Imagine how your life would be if Tyranitar had accelerock
I'd like Aerodactyl to get that since it's a contact move. Mega Aerodactyl's Tough Claws boosted Accelerock sounds scary.
His offensive typing is not just amazing, it is simply the best possible, unless they release dozens of competitive bug/water pokemons in gen 8
Tyranitar: hello ubers I have come to wreak havoc on your tier
@@tesseract2144 well gen 8 didn't add in any new bug/water's so we still only have Golisopod & Araquanid....BUT we did get other strong bug's with the bug/fire Centiskorch, the bug/psychic Orbeetle and the bug/ice Frosmoth
Mamoswine has been really consistent! Being great in ou/having a niche in ou for all its generations
@UCwYCMw3_JyLkpcKslNCcymg well you kinda deserved the spoil because
1:you looked at the comments
2:you watched the vid REALLY late
But knowing which tiers it's been in doesn't matter for me since the important is why are they in those tiers
Well said SimpOre
Mamoswine has the absolutely the best cry in the game. Truly a thing to fear.
Pokemon GO Mamoswine also really helps me wipe the floor with premier cup, sometimes being replaced by magmortar or Gardevoir. Nonetheless, it is a great Pokemon who has some best friends with MudSlap Earthquake Excadrill, and DragonBreath DragonClaw Dragonite
Second only to Aggron. I love how aggressive it sounds.
and thats why the mamoswine i had on pokemon platinum and pearl was absolutely beast
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It's interesting how useful Mamoswine is even with its Ice typing on the defensive, with its solid stats and movepool. Merry Christmas!
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How GOOD was Aggron ACTUALLY?
c’mon we need this
We need our dinosaur boy
#ArmoredDinosaur
Been trying so hard for this
Honestly, not very good, the highest it's ever been is UU and even there it suffers from it's crippling weaknesses as well as a terrible special defense stat.
Yes
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mamoswine is my favorite ice type and in my top 10 ever. i’m super glad you made a video and even more glad that it was and to an extent still is an absolute unit. you just need to make an infernape video and my life will be complete. merry christmas everyone!
How GOOD was Shedinja ACTUALLY?
Not giving up until you trashtalk about the underglorified husk
But please, don't turn it into a joke video .-. I felt bad after Ledian one.
Maybe try donating to him on Patreon? Thats what made him do Ledian.
@@klondikelegitski675 I'm not complaining about Ledian, but about way he's presented.
@@Kantlim well what could he have done otherwise? Explained in detail how ledian was utter garbage every single generation?
@@Kantlim I didnt say you were complaining, I was metioning that the OP has a better shot at getting a Shedinja video if he donates a few dollars
How good was Omastar actually?
I’m never giving up on this.
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It’s too trash
@@kefkapalazzo1 filthy heathen
But that 4x weakness to grass!!!!
@@felixlee9645 in Lord Helix Defense, Grass Isn't that Good in Competitive Play
6:38 Lol, Yanmega tried avoiding that ice shard
Fun fact ice and ground either neutrally or super effectively hit every single type in the game. When they gave it thick fat it became so nice. Even the buffed oblivious is fantastic.
@6:39 Yanmega was really trying juke that Ice Shard 😂😂😂
The trainer behind him: My time has come.
My favourite Ice-Type.
I love this big boofy boi
Edit: WOW soo many likes. THank you people
This absolute unit is a good boi
@@Duskool wish I had a poofy boi plushy
I love Mamoswine because of the anime.
Swinub was adorable.
Mamoswine was cool.
How Good was Celebi Actually?
Merry Christmas To all.
How good was electrode actually? Pls
How good were Yanma and Yanmega actually?? Might as well keep the theme going with one of the more interesting Bug types that received similar treatment
#SpeedyDragonfly
Yanmega really should be Bug/Dragon, I'd say. Forget Flygon, this is a better match here.
I love this thing. My Choice Band Mamoswine demolished everything in its path for a few local singles tournaments.
Mamoswine, the true dragonslayer
Mamoswine and his magnetic brethren instructed a select few species how to fight the onslaught of their draconian adversaries, and now these "Fairy types" gather at the same spot every December 25th to pay their utmost respect.
@@gengarzilla1685 that sounds like a power ranger backstory
And weavile too
Makes a bit of sense. Mammoths came after the dinosaurs
Funnily enough now they're showing almost every common OU mon in Gen 8 Who's boss.
Seeing Piloswine's eyes is strangely disturbing
Mamoswine is awesome. It was the original dragonslayer before Fairy types came around. But it's still an dragonslayer all around and having it into my team was an blast.
Mamoswine can also slay the Dragon/Fire & Dragon/Steel dragons too. Unlike the Fairy-Types.
@@aryksnag1935 And Dragon/Poison
love how solid mamoswine is throughout the games
I bet nobody here noticed piloswine can learn ancient power in gen 3 but still can't evolve
Mamoswine is gen 4 tho
@Jesus Renteria r/ihavereddit
Because it had to pray for Arceus to grant its wish to evolve.
FSG made a joke about Swine Flu at the end of the video but now I’m starting to think he might have been onto something. I think the theme with Mamoswine is the changing time. Notice how Mamoswine’s Shiny has “Swine Flu” written all over it, and that was apparently before the incident even began.
Come to think of it, the COVID situation is kinda similar.
Gen 4: Swine Flu, Sinnoh games
Gen 8: COVID-19, Sinnoh remakes
It could learn Ancient Power in gen 2 as well, same with Likitung being able to learn Rollout in both gen 2 and gen 3.
Good video, & Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays!
Also, shoutouts to winning VGC without EVs. That's a good Mamoswine!
But I am disappointed by the lack of commentary on Eviolite Piloswine.
How *GOOD* was *CELEBI* Actually?
We've seen this little guy too much as to keep ignoring him.
Guy?i alway see it as a female then again *IT* doesn't has a gender
Pum do you guys just pull Pokémon out of a hat and decide what to vote for that way?
How Good Was Beedrill was Actually
I've been requesting 2nd this for MONTHS. How did you get 14 likes after 1 POST!
BUNT'D
Just watch the ledian video and replace the word ledian with beedrill and it's pretty much the same
Luna Tulpa mega Beedrill?
Yes
Can we talk about how cool it is to have a good ice type around? Goddamn, just imagine how empty the decent ice types would be if Mamoswine didnt exist. Right now, besides Kyurem-Black, Kyurem-White, and freaking Arceus-Ice, (and arguably weavile, but I'd say they are on the same level basically) there is no stronger ice-type pokemon. And that has basically been the case for years : Weavile and Piloswine were the only two non legendaries decent ice type pokemon. And while Weavile fitted the frail fast f**ker niche, Mamoswine was the hulking beast that everybody was scared of for a while. Kudos to Mamoswine for making a horribly typing somewhat relevant, otherwise we would have basically been stuck to systematically using ice moves on non-ice pokemon for years on end.
I think a really strong and fast special attacking ice type would actually be a huge splash in the meta.
Isn‘t Alolan-Vulnona pretty good?
Cloyster?
Cloyster used to be the only decent ice type before mamo arrived, weavile has its niche but it's just too frail.
@@Mangosjoraa pex beat's it
Merry Christmas and thank you for showing some Pokémon in the competitive format. Although truth be told I'm a casual player however learning how the other side views some Pokémon is valuable so thank you.
Mamoswine is so good, that it even managed to cross the Galar Border!
Lol
How good was false Swipe gaming's Christmas actually????
Delibird forgot Present 😰
Pretty bad
Huh, I knew Mamoswine was useful, but I never realized how much of an anti meta machine it is. And anti meta is my favorite way to build a team. I need to train one of these things.
An perfect example that an Ice type Pokemon that can be good, just as long as it has the right combo typing, better stats, amazing movesets & good coverage. Mamoswine was great.
Just be a offensively good ice type.
I just realized how much we need a mega-Mamoswine.
Pokemon that were analyzed
Gen 1:
Venusaur
Charizard
Blastoise
Pidgeot
Pikachu
Raichu
Nidoking
Clefable
Nientales
Wigglytuff
Golbat
Dugtrio
Persian
Arcanine
Poliwrath
Alakazam
Machamp
Tentacruel
Slowbro
Magneton
Muk
Cloyster
Gengar
Onix
Exeggutor
Marowak
Weezing
Rhydon
Chansey
Tangela
Kangaskhan
Seadra
Starmie
Electabuzz
Magmar
Tauros
Gyarados
Lapras
Vaporeon
Jolteon
Flareon
Porygon
Aerodactyl
Snorlax
Articuno
Moltres
Zapdos
Dragonite
Mewtwo
Mew
Gen 2:
Meganium
Typhloison
Feraligatr
Ledian
Crobat
Togetic
Ampharos
Azumarill
Jumpluff
Quagsire
Umbreon
Espeon
Misdreavus
Wobbuffet
Dusparce
Gligar
Steelix
Scizor
Shuckle
Heracross
Sneasel
Piloswine
Delibird
Skarmory
Houndoom
Kingdra
Porygon2
Smeargle
Blissey
Raikou
Entei
Suicune
Tyranitar
Gen 3:
Sceptile
Blaziken
Swampert
Gardevoir
Breloom
Roselia
Flygon
Milotic
Salamence
Metagross
Gen 4:
Roserade
Mismagius
Garchomp
Lucario
Weavile
Magnezone
Rhyperior
Tangrowth
Electivire
Magmortar
Togekiss
Gliscor
Mamoswine
Porygon-z
Gallade
Thanks for the compilation. I watch almost all of them but it's still helpful to see what we've covered, so see also where we can go as well.
I like how we have more Gen 4 picks then Gen 3 picks. RIP RSE
@@mohammedchowdhury4058 if you look closely most gen 4 pokes are continuations of evo lines started either in gen 1 or 2, thats why theres so many.
Magmorta? I think there's a letter missing my guy.
@@TerraTuso oh yeah my mistake i'll fix that
Edit: did it.
How good was Beedrill actually? (Why do I bother asking when someone else probably already has one hundred times)
I'll just tell you. Trash until ORAS
And at that point it crawled it's way up to UU.
Mamoswine and Weavile prove that Ice Types can still be very good and the type doesn’t need a buff.
They just need to be better designed.
How dare you insult mamoswine
Maybe they should stop making every Ice type be defensive or just plain suck. The only somewhat passible defensive Ice Type is Aavalug who has niche on stall in OU.
Sayvion Washington Why Avalugg of all things?
Skeeter Mania www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/avalugg/
Better design? Your eyes must be blind
“Shaymin sky was eventually banned because it was over powered”
After showing it being one shot by mamoswine
I mean...By that point in video the fact that Mamo was the op wrecker was established.
Remember, just because a powerful Pokemon has a check doesn't make it balanced.
Not like Mamo can switch in on it at all. Skymin OHKOes it with Seed Flare
This is why we call Mamoswine "The OP Slayer."
These were the Pokemon I requested 😍 Thank you False Swipe Gaming
Piloswine was my first random encounter shiny. Tis nice
How good was Infernape actually?
Happy holidays everyone!
I think i am the ONLY one that wants Slakoth.
Hyper beam gen 3 spammage:,)
@@orionkeenan6247 Yeah, i mistyped.
Dante HG LC
How GOOD was the FIRST UBER to drop to OU Celebi ACTUALLY?
M3rtyville
UU*
Wow. I had to look that up. Celebi really was uber once. Was Smogon even a thing before gen 3?
it has to drop to OU first before dropping further. It was OU in Gen 3 @@freindenoir
@@M3rtyville No not really.
Gen 4 Mew was always Uber
Gen 5 Mew dropped to UU.
Celebi is an uber spirit in smash ultimate, does that count?
im so happy you covered mammoswine. it's my favorite ground type pokemon.
That’s nice to hear always liked this mon a lot. It’s typing is very versatile!
How good was Celebi ACTUALLY?
As much as I want Infernape, I'd be stoked with this. Celebi has always been one of my favorites.
But dat 4x weakness to bug doh
@@felixlee9645 The Bug type was the least of its worries, honestly. It was the numerous other weaknesses that came with its type that it had to worry about. But even that didn't mean much for a sweeper, whose archetype usually gets done in by chip damage and priority moves. But once its checks were removed, that elf's smirk would be giving the Grinch a run for his money.
I've been requesting 2nd this for MONTHS.
Merry Christmas FalseSwipeGaming, and to everyone in the comment section!
Merry Christmas to you and all those you celebrate with 😀🎄!
@@jaidencarvalho1761 Thanks! You too!
HELL YEAH ITS MA BOI
I've used Mamoswine in OU and VGC since 2014 and it is a monster.
The best set I used was assault vest mamoswine which decimated unsuspecting teams as they were caught completely off guard by a mamoswine living special super effective moves quite well especially fire moves.
I really do think it's an underrated pokemon and the fact that it frequently moved between OU and UU shows that.
Amazing research as always! Thanks you and have a great weekend!
Grandissimo Arash! Italy follows you, False Swipe. Have a cool Christmas
How to deal with dragons:
Throw ice at them
Or another dragon
Or...a fairy
I kind of like Piloswine more than Mamoswine, and i loved Swinub's animation in pokemon go when it runs around... xD
Wonderful Pokemon, one of the best bulldozers in the game.
how GOOD was shedinja ACTUALLY
It's not
@@590488 It is in the OU tier, and if you make use of the Wonder Guard ability, it can be a beast.
@@NerdX151 in gens 3-5 it's hard countered by sand stream (which was almost always present) in the other gens you still need 5 mons to support it. With the right team support you can make any mon work, but that still doesn't make it a good pokemon
Marc Liljeqvist it’s not in OU, it’s PU. In an ideal competitive scenario, Shedinja dies to virtually any entry hazard, status, and a ton of common coverage moves, like Hidden Power Fire. It’s not good.
@@NerdX151 its TRASH
Happy holidays, and nice video! Would like to have seen an eviolite piloswine mention but mah boi mamoswine deserves his spotlight
Seldom is a mon so beastly looking, yet also somehow cuddly, but still totally wrecks all at the same time. Ugh I love Mamo so much it makes me want to cry.
Merry Christmas, FSG Team!
How GOOD were Murkrow and Honchkrow ACTUALLY?
GOD I love Mamoswine.
I would ride that glorious Monstrosity into Battle any day of the week.
It has always bothered me how low mamoswine’s tusks are on its face
Ah! Why would you say that! Now that bothers me and I can't unsee it 😅
I think that's because they are on his lower jaw.
They're teeth that look like tusks. They're mammoth pigs, having enlarged teeth like boars to root around in the ground with
Merry Christmas man! Great work as always
10:44 That is a treasure of a Mamoswine if I've ever seen one
Lets keep going with gen 2 with Celebi!
if the icetype werent such a hinderance in defense mamoswine would be a better hippowdon
No sand stream or reliable recovery :(
@@jerry3115 still, natural bulk and priority move in ice shard AND way better attack.
Mamo is great, but hippowdon is used for bulk and sand, mamo is used to shred teams. Not really comparable tbh
@@jerry3115 well, imagine if mamoswine got hail as an ability :)
Tbh i would still run thick fat. Snow is the worst weather and rather difficult to use properly, especially on a mon with meh spatk for blizzard
I genuinely love seeing Yanmega evade an ice shard only to somehow magically get sniped by it lol.
Yes my icy boi has finally got his video!
I'd love you see you cover eviolite Pilowsine in the coming future, its one of the more sturdier walls with rocks and personally I've seen it many many times in overused
Can we please do the 100-across-the-board mythicals? How GOOD Was Celebi ACTUALLY?
Keep upvoting comments asking for it and it might happen soon! Merry Christmas 😀🎄!
Fun Fact: Swinub are used for finding hot springs
I'm interested to see how Mamoswine's future pans out since Gen8's change to Own Tempo, making Mamoswine now immune to Intimidate on top of Confusion! Obv it hasn't exactly taken Gen8 VGC by storm (yet??), but it really is a very dangerous, albiet, niche pick. Prankster Swagger from Thundurus-I and the even better Prankster Swagger AND Tailwind from Tornadus-I, can potentially make Mamoswine absolutely DEVISTATING vs a good amount of teams. With it's good match up vs VGC2020 staples like Togekiss (RIP) Incineroar, Lando-T, Regieleki, the new/old Kanto Legendary Bird forms, and (with the right support) even Mons it doesn't match up great against like Cinderace, Rillaboom, Tapu Fini, etc, I wouldn't be surprised to see Mamoswine rise in usage as the season goes on and even future seasons... Prob won't become a STAPLE by any means, but I could see it surpassing "niche" into a semi-regularly used Mon that teams need to be prepared for
Wow did not think Mamoswine was this good. grait video.
Really like to see Forretress, next time.👍
I didnt see the typo the first time I saw this, but now that I do, I cant unsee it. I demand you fix the first "Piloswine" at once, please and thank you.
how GOOD was GOLEM and Alolan Form Actually?
Keep upvoting comments asking for it and it might happen! Merry Christmas 😀🎄!
Still no Furret
Sad boy hours
I love the way you pronounced Queretaro. I think I’ll be saying it that way from now on lol
Mamoswine and Magnezone is one of the best bromances I've seen in gen 4
Why go with pork when you can have beef?
How good was #WhitneysMiltank actually?
it was soo powerful whitney's miltank was sent to ubers due to its sheer power
But Hera eats it for breakfast tho. I doubt shes good enough for ubers
@@mohammedchowdhury4058 hera is its only counter yet it can still die to its rollout
@@NeoGraena it learns brick break at 19 which 2hkos the overgrown beef girl rollout cant do much dmg on the first strike
Hasn't been relevant since Gen 2
Its been UU trash since
It's finally time to get Hitmonchan into the ring.
How GOOD was Hitmonchan ACTUALLY?
funny how for years I thought this line was pretty much ass turned out to be a pretty good one in fact
Merry Christmas, FSG 😊I wish you could do Piloswine more screentime, cause I feel it doesn't get the recognition it deserves in the lower tiers. Anyway happy holidays 👌
I love mamoswine, he's always one of the pokemon I bring with me on the first trip through a generation (along with an eevee)
If fairy types didn’t become a thing I think Mamoswine would’ve been OU in Gen 6; maybe not Gen 7 or 8 but surely 6
I heavily underestimated Piloswine in Gen III, since it looked unimpressive in comparison to Pokémon that I liked (Feraligatr, Hariyama, Espeon and Umbreon being the ones I used the most in Colosseum). But boy, was I amazed when Mamoswine was revealed. Shame that I barely used it after evolving it in Platinum.
how good was ABSOL actually?
I wish he did Absol, he's now doing holidays stuff though.
Every dragons worst nightmare
A mammoth pig with a choice band and ice shard
Everyone gangsta till starmie uses scald or grass knot (252+ banded ice shard is a 91% 4HKO, starmie outspeeds and scald or grass knot is a guaranteed OHKO with life orb or expert belt)
Speaking of Sinnoh evolved Pokemon,
How GOOD was Dusclops and Dusknoir ACTUALLY?
C'mon we gotta make this happen!