How GOOD was Ursaring ACTUALLY? - History of Ursaring in Competitive Pokemon
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- Опубліковано 14 лип 2024
- Ursaring is today’s Pokemon for our competitive history series! Join False Swipe Gaming in this overview of Ursaring in competitive Pokemon!
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What I love about Ursaring (and Ursaluna by extension) is how, with all these Pokemon capable of breathing fire, destroying you with their mind, and generating enough electricity to power a small city, this one's special power is BEING A BEAR. And it's VERY good at it.
Its really a normal type Machamp.
It's like a far weaker bear version of Rajang. Though Rajang is technically one of the strongest monsters.
Yeah for sure
To be fair, a bear is a fast tank that hits harder than truck-kun, so a bear+ is gonna be busted anyways.
@@i_s_u-c_l_o_n_e637 A fellow hunter.
Paul's Ursaring from the anime was a BEAST with that Guts ability! Too bad it didn't know Facade...
Even when Paul’s Ursaring activated Guts twice in the anime
@@IgnitedQuils It's funny how it didn't activate it when it got paralyzed by Brandon's Regice using Zap Cannon, but it finally did for the first time when Pikachu's Static hit it during the Lake Acuity battle HAHA
Paul forgot about it then. Judging from the team he used against Brandon, he clearly wasn't thinking straight on that day.
Terminator has nothing on Paul 's Ursaring, what a monster...
If it knows facade, it could Ohko through Brandon's regice atleast.
I always loved how Ursaring’s gen 4 sprite looks like it’s about to launch a Focus Blast
reminds me of paul's lmao
They give a lot of personality to a simple design, I am talking about Ursaring
Focus Miss*
Edit: Focus Blast I think could be the most unreliable damaging move in the game. It has like the lowest accuracy other than lile Zap Cannon and Dynamic Punch (but those moves have guarenteed effects, Paralysis and Confusion respectively.) The main strong but can miss of the other types (Thunder, Blizzard, Fire Blast, Hydro Pump, Hurricane) have ways to make them 100 accurate (Hurricane and Thunder to rain, Blizzard to hail) and the other 2 are higher accuracy anyway, i don't know much less reliable move other than those OHKO ones.
Its playing Air Guitar in its release gen
@@Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy *hahahahahahah* you aren't funny
Based on Ursaluna's stats and the abilities that have been datamined, it will probably see significant usage in tiers that modern Ursaring could only dream of. If not OU, UU will certainly approve of it's monstrous bulk and power.
Yup. Remember when they used to give handicaps to these kinds of OP non-legendaries like Slaking, Archeops and Wishiwashi, and even the legendary Regigigas was given a handicap ability because of its montrous power? Yet now they created Ursaluna with its absurd stats and little to no handicaps whatsoever besides low speed, which can work in its favor under Trick Room? Yikes. 🐻🐻🐻
@@cintronproductions9430 Gamefreak love their bears
@@cintronproductions9430 Imagine wanting more basically unusable pokemon.
@@Sleeper800 I never said that, in fact I'm happy they didn't do the same with Ursaluna. XD
@@Sleeper800 me when i miss the point
Literally as this goes up, I’m grinding level to get my Teddiursa into an Ursarang right now in Crystal. Couldn’t have been anymore perfectly timed.
Used Ursaring in Crystal too, it’s a good Pokémon to use due to coverage and solid power.
I'm grinding my Ursaring rn before the E4 in Gold! What a coincidence!
I'm playing bdsp right now and just caught a Teddiursa so I feel the same. False swipe gaming with the on point uploads as always
It could have popped up the instant you evolved it, that might be more perfect
Been a couple of hours, did you get it?
My favourite normal type! Love this bear, and the fact that Legends Arceus gave Ursaring a new evolution is just even better
meh, ursaluna isnt worth it imo
@@Genesis23OPB in what way? Because you can't mean competitively as it's never been in any meta
@@ExpandDong420 have you looked at the typing? it gets 3 weaknesses on top and gets only 50 base power on top of ursaring which imo isnt enough to compensate.
so youre better off with ursaring imo.
@@Genesis23OPB STAB Earthquake though
@@ExpandDong420 jeah, but is that one stab worth being wrecked by grass, water and ice?
Cant wait for Ursaluna.
You mean the Toxapex killing machine?
I legit believe that if Ursaluna was a thing from the get go, Snorlax would not be GSC king as he is. Or…he would be, cause luna’ld be banned perhaps
@@leonardobarbosatelles2779 Was Ursaluna finally released to Pokemon home yet or are you going off of Arceus?
Also the Pokemon that can wall Gengar if it goes for Bulletproof instead of Guts
@@leonardobarbosatelles2779 curse ursaluna would’ve been crazy…only issue would’ve been an added water weakness but it would’ve been great.
Since Ursaring has an evo now, imagine what a hypothetical bulky Eviolite set could do if they just gave it Slack Off. It's a *bear,* too, so it's not like it wouldn't make sense flavor-wise.
It wouldn't be nearly as good as toxic orb
@@nautilus2612 or a Frostbite orb if they replaced freeze in SV
it has drain punch
Restalk + guts + eviolite + facade + throat chop/crunch. Let it sink for a moment
Toxapex is sweating profusely seeing that Ursaluna is about to enter the competitive scene.
How so?
@@jaretco6423 140 base attack stab earthquake with guts.
That's pretty scary.
@@jaretco6423 Toxapex is typically used as a physical wall and it's great at it because it can use Scald to burn physical attackers to cripple their physical attacks. It can also poison them with Toxic or Baneful Bunker.
Ursaluna has Guts as one of its abilities which boosts its attack when suffering a status condition, so burning or poisoning it would work in its favor. Ursaluna is also a Ground type with access to Earthquake and has a base 140 Attack stat.
Max attack, Guts boosted Ursaluna's Earthquake is a guaranteed OHKO against max HP, max physical defense Toxapex. So once Ursaluna hits the field with a status condition, Toxapex better switch out or it's gone.
@@jaretco6423 Ursaluna is one of the strongest Ground types in terms of damage output (It's base attack is only behind Lando-T and Groudon when it comes to Ground types), and with Guts it can one shot Toxapex once it gets a status condition.
@@Mr.Sax. Hm. I see.
The Johto bear was a fun lower tier mon, and it gets an evolution, allowing it to get Eviolite.
Not bad for the Yogi.
Indeed, it would be excellent to put it in doubles, where it gets burned by its partner, so it gets big defense and attack
Truly it’s stronger than the average bear.
Remember when Vigoroth was a legit Offensive/Defensive threat in the lower tiers ?
Well, Ursaring is bulkier and MUCH stronger so .....
Why would you run eviolite over flame/toxic orb? It just seems inferior
@@nautilus2612 I imagine that VGC would allow you to run Eviolite for the def/spdef boost and burn with ursaring's partner.
I love the fact that a bear pokemon is truly feared for it's strength. It's actually exactly the stats I would expect from it. Real Life bears are horrifyingly strong.
The trope "Bears are bad news" exists for a reason
That and the fact it gets stronger/faster when under a status effect reflects how a wounded bear is even more dangerous.
@@ZorotheGallade They even gave Ursaluna bulletproof reflecting how bears would basically shrug off most bullets from the past and some today.
I always liked this thing. I'm excited to eventually try it out with eviolite hopefully in gen 9
If this is going to happen i think ursaring can maybe find a place in NU or something. I am also excited in how ursaluna fits in the next competetive generation because its actually really strong!
@@nisay6031 Depends on the power creep and/or the adjustments that may carry over from Legend of Arceus in regards to movepool basepower. As it currently stands in gen 8 NU and in similar vein to last gen NU, it could come into Vaporeon taking only 20-24% from Scald and naturally punish the burns without the need of RestTalk. That alone is a hugh boon. The amount of natural bulk lets it survive a 2HKO from defensive Dhelmise making it unable to revenge. As such it is much more free to run SD 3 attack with almost insured +2 from SD to go off, which with 130 atk, 55 base Speed can be a real threat to the quite slow walls found in NU.
@@rhydonphilip TBH others are saying ursaluna will be OU or UU but i think i will be RU or RUBL TO highest
Once Ursaluna ends up in Mainline Games (It’s going to be in Scarlet/Violet), there will be bloodshed.
Not only does it boast 130 base HP, you also need to deal with 140 base Attack coming off a Normal type that also gets STAB Earthquake for being part Ground.
Not to mention, it still has Guts upon evolution, or Bulletproof for Defense. Both are respectable abilities, but Guts is where it really shines. Trust me when I say this, Brother Bear is out hunting, and it’s competitors are the main course.
>there will be bloodshed
THE MAN IN THE MIRROR NODS HIS HEAD
It will be a staple on Trick Room teams, it’s damage output is horrifying, and its not easy to kill it either
ursaluna will be a toxapex killing machine
With Bulletproof, it completely walls Gengar unless it runs Icy Wind or Giga Drain, moves it won’t use otherwise.
@@IgnitedQuils Ursaluna could be a good user of Assault Vest for its great bulk.
I play a lot of Gen 6 Random Battles on showdown, and seeing Ursaring with Quick Feet AND Swords Dance is one of the most threatening sights. Because nothing has speed investment, it generally outspeeds most walls and or other offensive Pokémon and utterly destroys them. Not the game ender of all game Enders, but it you or your opponent pulls out an Ursaring late game, it’s near guaranteed for the match to be over
So same as any setup mon in randoms. It’s literally just time your setup sweep right the game mode especially in later gens and especially especially in gen 8 randoms with dmax
@@ultimaterecoil1136 Yes, but not to the same degree as Ursaring, of course any set up sweeper will win games, but Ursaring doubles as a wall breaker, and can often take on at least 3 Pokémon even if they’re mostly healthy, it’s a monstrous attacker
I really hope to be able to use Ursaluna in competitive one day. It was killer in my Arceus playthrough, especially with that 140 Attack stat.
Alpha Ursaluna was also a sight to behold as well.
Apparently we'll be able to get Hisuian forms in Scarlet and Violet, or at least transfer them, so if the Teddiursa line is available in that game, oh boy....
It also has the ground equivalent of close combat!
@@jaimedanielhernandezrios5398 I hope it also gets acces to earthquake
@@yadielrosado8012 did you even watch the video? it already has earthquake
Does anyone ever imagine Ursaring playing an electric guitar while looking at its Crystal sprite animation? 🐻 🎸
No, that’s azumarills job
I had no idea Ursaring had such a run. For a usually pretty forgotten normal pokemon compared to other fan favorites I hugely underestimated the sheer power he holds. Of course he has the same issues as many older pokemons as things go forward but there's a statement to be made to stay BL in gen 2 to 3!
imagine its final evolved form that would be epic
An underrated Gen 2 Pokémon IMO. Paul’s Ursaring was also badass, even with the clothesline Hammer Arm in the Lake Acuity Battle.
If Ursaring was only faster. Hyped for Ursaluna due to the bulk, good offensive typing, coupled with being the strongest Guts+Facade user and having Bulletproof, completely walling Gengar unless it uses Icy Wind or Giga Drain.
Paul's Ursaring was TERRIFYINGLY powerful, especially in the mentioned Lake Acuity battle taking out 3 of Ash's Pokemon.
Ursaluna will DEFINITELY be a monster, not only with STAB Guts and Facade, but ALSO STAB Earthquake (Or if Headlong Rush (Ground type Close Combat) gets added) and with Guts, it becomes the ONLY Pokemon who's able to GUARANTEE OHKO Toxapex without boosting it's stats. (With Guts boosted Earthquake)
@@theonlineninja7596 thats not true at all. there are plenty of different pokemon that can OHKO toxapex without boosting their stats
@@theonlineninja7596 *laughs in Groudon*
@@theonlineninja7596 i think eq is gonna be more prevalent due to no drawbacks
Everyone is stoked for Ursaluna, I'm looking forward to Arceus with the Legends Plate
Legend Plate will probably be banned from Ubers, changing its typing as well as Judgement’s to favor whatever matchup it’s in would be busted
@@cristianordonez7976 I don't think the legend plate will be included in other games outside of legends arceus
@@cristianordonez7976 I don't think it would be that bad. If we do get the legend plate, it would likely be a held item like the other plates. So it wouldn't be able to use other held items. It's not mega Rayquaza levels of busted. Plus there's prediction play to consider. If you know what type it's gonna turn into, you can potentially hit it with a super effective move as soon as it changes.
Finally back in Johto!!
Also, anyone remember how made of iron Paul’s Ursaring was?
Yep, even in that Lake Acuity battle with the Clothesline Hammer Arm
Paul's Ursaring was a total nightmare, especially in the Lake Acuity battle.
Yup. It's probably a good thing he didn't use it against Ash in the Sinnoh League.
@@JCBro-yg8vd Then he had to deal with Drapion (which I’m hoping is next).
Paul’s Ursaring, as well as the Teddiursa you get in XD, is what made Ursaring one of my top 10 all time favorites
Thanks to the recent HOME update, Ursaluna has been unleashed upon Gen 9 and has made Trick Room an actual threat in OU thanks to its sheer power from its Base 140 Attack Guts Boosted STAB Facade allowing it to 2 hit KO nearly everything, and decent bulk.
Then Magearna got banned and Ursaluna slowly faded into UnderUsed. But on the plus side, Ursaluna Blood Moon is Ubers lol
@@ONLY_RR7you cannot escape ursaring and ursaluna anywhere geez
I like the idle animations given to some Pokémon in the Stadium, Colloseum/XD and BR games. And Ursaring flexing its arms is one of my favorites. It's like he's preparing to tear apart the opposition ♡
I like its idle animation in the games too, makes it look cool, even the attacking animation of it moving forward
Reminder that - based on the datamine - Guts boosted Adamant Ursaluna ALWAYS OHKOs max defense max HP Toxapex. That thing is gonna be absurd if it ever gets released.
anything that ohkos a toxapex is a good thing
I’m actually surprised you didn’t give a quick mention to Paul’s Ursaring. I sure hope Ursaluna becomes a good Pokémon once it becomes available in competitive.
with those stats and abilities it will certainly be a threat, even if it doesn't make it to ou it will most definitely be in uubl
a trick room pokemon for sure in doubles
Paul's Ursaring:
No thoughts
Only Hammer Arm
Ursaluna would definitely be good. The question is if it'll be better than eviolite ursaring.
Ursaluna is already looking like an absolute beast yeee
Giving Ursaring evolite is going to be a meta shake-up. This is why I hope Donphan gets one.
Hey Donphan specifically didn't get to be wielding eviolite, but guess what?
Yes Donphan evolution
@@the_beans_man1524 literal real life evolution, indeed
Eviolite Ursaring (now that Ursaluna is in code) is an absolute terror in Gen 9 random battles
playing BDSP has taught me much about competitive play, its actually making appreciate it even more, like Guts/Marvel Scale and Flame Orb for example, never thought this Big Bear would be a threat.
I'm also interested in ursaring with an eviolite. Being only weak to fighting is useful for an eviolite user. But ursaluna has way more hp and higher base defenses. And via ground typing is immune to electric and resistant to rock and poison, however weak to water, grass and ice. But I think with an assault vest it'll be tanking a lot of things. There's so much potential in this 'mon.
I feel like an Eviolite Ursaring could be pretty successful in the lower tiers (maybe RU or UU)
While Ursaluna would be a definite OU Mon
@@sketchydude8431 lol yeah. Guts off 140 base attack? And 130 base hp and 105 def/ 80spdef? Awesome. I think it could be a good assault vest user too.
Stab boosted facade is always amazing, but with 140 base attack, it's probably the best facade user.
Going off what ursaring's learnset is this gen I'd go with:
Ursaluna @ flame orb, adamant nature, 252 atk 252 hp.
Swords dance/facade/earthquake/stone edge or hammer arm.
Swords dance first turn, flame orb activates.. sweep. Optimally set up trick room first. Because the only bad thing about ursaluna is 50 base speed but with trick room that's alleviated.
Note: SV allows for Eviolite to work on Ursaring even though Ursaluna isn't available yet.
My dad doesnt know anything about Pokémon, but he told me that this was his favorite.
Guts just made it absolutely shred in my Emerald nuzlocke. Bearmeister you were the best!
Big thank you to my favorite UA-cam channel, and thank you to such consistent uploads, great work FSG!
A new update for Ursaring: GameFreak has leaked a new form for Ursaluna for the Paldea region called Ursaluna blood moon form. While not officially confirmed and debuted yet, this new form has some unique abilities and have the ability to hit ghost type Pokémon with both normal and fighting type moves. So, once this new form becomes official, it’s possible blood moon Ursaluna may likely be a top tier competitor or even become banned just like Ursaluna likely would be as well.
Blood moon ursaluna was banned
@@mrtrollnator123 neat
Ursaring holds a very special place in my heart. DPPT was the first generation I took Pokemon battling seriously, and Mama Bear quickly became my most feared partner in a team also featuring the likes of Gengar and Metagross. Stab Facade paired with Toxic Orb and Quick Feet made such an impact in my circle of online friends we actually started meming it. Despite no longer using it in current teams, I consider Ursaring to be kind of my unofficial mascot
Do you still have Mama Bear?
I remember catching a random Teddiursa because I thought it was cute & it ended up being the MVP of my team. I don’t know how it happened but that thing was getting like, +5-6 attack with each level up. As someone who plays Pokémon games from a casual perspective having a Pokémon gain experience THAT quick is very surprising to me.
Depending on the game, you probably built up a lot of attack evs and the had a +attack nature.
@@pehnusaur4379 it was Soul Silver, as in the Generation 4 iteration. & it has an Adamant natural.
@@nixuniverse5240 Yep, that sounds about right.
dear god, that is terrifying amounts of power.
Ursaluna's going to be an absolute beast in VGC. Massive Attack, Guts, almost perfect neutral coverage between its STABs (and it has the moves to hit the few Pokemon that do resist them). You bring the Trick Room, it'll bring the pain.
also STAB guts earthquake
@@rodimusunicronus2089 Earthquake isn't good in VGC since it also hits your partner. Luckily it gets High Horsepower and Headlong Rush (Ground type Close Combat) so Ground STAB isn't a problem.
@@Quix0tic707 true unless use specific pokemon like orbeetle with telepath but we are unsure which pokemon are avaliable too ( an eviolite ursaring can be quite scary too if it need burn can perhaps use mewtwo or dragopult to do so but require a little too much set up)
@@rodimusunicronus2089 Eh not sold on Eviolite Ursaring in VGC (might be good in Singles though). You could build around Earthquake, people have done successfully with stuff like Groudon, Excadrill and Landorus-T, but to be honest I'd rather just run Headlong Rush. I've got Rock Slide if I want spread damage.
I'm just gonna say this. Whenever Ursaluna arrives in a mainline game with online battling, it'll be a monster. Both in singles and doubles.
Ursaluna does 101% minimum to toxapex with earthquake and if it get it’s signature move headlong rush which is a ground type version of close combat that calc goes to around 119% the only counter I can think of is kartana and if it runs fire punch it and ohko kartana and with fire punch can 2hko skarmory and corviknight with rocks
@@scorpion2575 AND it's bulkier than Hippowdon
@@scorpion2575 Kartana wouldn't be a counter at all cause it can't switch into Ursaluna's moves, not only Fire Punch
@@ethanc.1443 it resists something like double edge or facade and can ohko with life orb or banded leaf blade and it is neutral to headlong rush or earthquake
@@scorpion2575 252+ Atk Guts Ursaring Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kartana: 225-265 (86.8 - 102.3%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
It can't switch in that much
Ursaluna will be an absolute MONSTER in Scarlet/Violet.
Shut up jerd
I think the only thing Ursaring really needs is more bulk and a means of reliable recovery.
In real life, bears are very bulky creatures that are very hard to take down.
Like in Pokémon, if faced with a bear you need to take the bear out quickly or end up as its lunch.
Good thing it'll be getting a boost from Eviolite then.
FINALLY! I've been waiting for this episode ever since I discovered your channel a few years ago. Ursaring's one of my favorite Pokemon, and, not being much of a competitive player, I've always wondered how it fared in multiplayer.
I'm also really glad it got an evolution in Legends: Arceus. It definitely needed SOMETHING, and once Ursaluna was revealed, I knew I was going to use one. It's now one of my all-time favorites, and I'm really looking forward to being able to use it in future games.
Glad to see the evolution of the adorable Teddiursa, one of my favourites from gen 2, had some success. Fingers crossed its evolution and eviolite Ursaring will be the return it deserves.
I remember loving Ursaring in gen 5 NU. Quick Feet was really fun.
Quick Feet + Swords Dance + Facade = death. It blows away anything that doesn't resist its attacks. It outruns a lot of things too with the speed boost. Ursa's bulk is also just enough that it can often take at least one fairly powerful attack before the Quick Feet boost activates. Zangoose on the other hand dies to a light breeze.
Paul’s Ursaring was an absolute beast watching the anime as a kid
Eviolite ursaring seems terrifying, giving it effectively base 120-140 defences on top of its respectable base 90 HP and base 130 attack
I swear my hitmonchan just got one shot by a guts ursaring facade 5 min ago.
great timing!!!!
Nice analysis video! Looking forward to how it is with Eviolite, if that ever happens! Thanks for uploading!
This is probably my favourite bear line, Tediursa is adorable, Ursaring is badass and Ursuluna is even more so.
Thanks for always putting in the work to bring us this content
Paul’s Ursaring was so intimidating man
I hope one day, we get to hear the tails of the might Relicanth headsmashing it’s way through the likes of the genies, the tapus, notable uber stables like Ho-oh, Lugia, and even Yveltal. On top of yawn being arguably the most crippling 2 turn status move to ever exist, you have a hell of a competitive history that I think we’re overlooking. Maybe one day the fish god will bless us with such an episode
I'll predict one comment when his video drops: It would have been better if it was a pure water type. Never mind that Relicanth's head is f**king made of rock, remove the rock type because it makes it terrible!
Even if it's not that good. I'm very excited to see how Eviolite Ursaring would fare in Gen 9.
it would definitely earn it a place in PU, as long as power creep doesn't go gen 5 mode again.
I mean would eviolite be that good on it ? Like yeah it would help its longevity but significantly cut its fire power and well it still has the issues of lacking reliable recovery and as a purely defensive mon, it’s really lacking in utility moves. Overall it might be played but I don’t think it would become the de facto way to play ursaring, at best it will be an alternative
You’d never run a evolite on it cuz it needs to be statused
@@galvsparks6295
It's the Scyther problem again, trying to fit Eviolite into an offensive Pokémon. It very likely won't work.
Ursaring depends of its orbs to activate Guts/Quick Feet. Eviolite would be a hindrance.
I mean, you could run Rest talk, but then you're almost entirely reliant on the extra bulk from Eviolite, which makes you pretty deathly afraid of Knock Off. As far as Eviolite based Guts Pokemon it might have some competition from Gurdurr mainly because Gurdurr has the advantage of resisting dark and having higher defense so Knock Off isn't quite as detrimental to it. It does hit much harder though, so its hard to tell
Paul's Ursaring really was a monster. Imagine if he took it against ash in their final match?
I love ursaring but infernape would delete ursaring
I used a Ursaluna in my first Legends Arceus playthrough. I'm curious to see how it will do once it goes to Competitive.
It, according to datamined data, has monstrous bulk, base 140 attack, and access to Guts as an ability. That, plus the ground typing, giving it the ever-important electric immunity and STAB EQ (or, well high horsepower/headlong rush, EQ hasn't been confirmed as an option), means it's an absolute monster of a bulky wallbreaker. Definitely dangerous, probably OU material.
@@henriquepacheco7473 get trick room and then get guts up and u can get roll done very soon
@@amandeepsinghbhola2998 people are definitely overestimating how much power it has. We already have a TR guts-user with Ursaluna's power level - that being, Conkeldurr - and it hardly impacts the meta much. To be fair, it doesn't have STAB on Façade, so Ursaluna still has an edge on raw power, but it's hardly that far from the usual. Honestly, the bulk is more worrying than the power.
@@henriquepacheco7473 might be true...likely at the start of the meta game it will be up there and most likely get some counter introduced for it as well soon too.. just the typing which makes it a good Pokemon for the game but let's see it might be up there i OU or make up a niche for itself later
Stab on facade is a huge deal and the typing and bulk is a major difgerence6, notably having key resistances and immunities. Ursaluna has so much power that it even has a chance to 3HKO standard Corviknight with facade. It can OHKO Pex with very minor chip while Conk needs the same chip to guarantee a 2HKO. Luna also 2HKOs max def LandoT AFTER an intimidate. It quite literally has no switch ins. And it's far more well roundes than Conk.
"How good was stab wallmart boomburst off of a 135 sp attack actually"
Ursaluna is by far my favorite Pokémon, the second I saw the leaks I knew I had to have one on my team. And not only did I get a shiny, but it absolutely carried me through the game
Paul's Ursaring was FUCKING VICIOUS!
That and Teddiursa being the first Shadow Pokémon in XD: Gale of Darkness made me remember more than anything.
Cannot wait to see how well Ursaluna will be once transferrable.
Conversely, Ursaring is also one of the postgame Shadow Pokémon in Colosseum. Just found that weird.
Ursaring and Ursaluna will wreck havoc in VGC
You can easily burn your own ursaring (guts and eviolite) with your will-o-wisp setter and have great bulk
With trick room being more common,ursaring might outclass Ursaluna due to being more bulky
Damn, this was covered far too early given the recent news.
Won’t lie this is one I’ve been wanting for a long time. Too bad it’s not in more games.
Thank you for this! Great video. Love ursaring.
These videos really make me see how diverse Gen 3 OU was. There are some mainstays, sure, like Skarmory, but there seems to be a massive pool outside of those staples that pop in out of nowhere.
EDIT: And also that powercreep hit HARD in Gen 4 (and then a little bit harder in Gen 5).
I would like to see him cover the rest of the starters basic stages and how they performed in little cup
Edit: like how he did Chimchar
I've waited so long for this! :)
Thanks for covering Ursaring and mentioning it's use in XD, I used it alongside Dusclops in my first run of that game with an ingame choice band, willowisp support for guts, and facade set with coverage in Mt. Battle to great success.
Ursaring should have higher defensive stats. It’s a freaking bear
Glad Ursaring finally got its video. I always knew it should have one ever since the Donphan video (since I consider the pair counterparts to one another in the Johto games specifically).
Maybe if you can predict the switch into a Will-O-Wisp, Eviolite Ursaring would be able to pop off if Ursaluna becomes available.
Ive been waiting for this one for years
Addendum: Ursaring was ZUBL in Sun and moon. Nothing of the SM ZU cast of the time could stand up to its sets beyond trying to sack your Mawile as slowly as possible, and it was overwhelmingly banned. If Ursaring were to return in Sword and Shield, it would likely be in ZU or lower. Ursaring biggest competitors Kangaskhan, Stoutland, and Zangoose were gone from the metagame or nerfed by metagame changes. However, the lower level of SS ZU is higher this generation, and plenty of good Fighting types like Sawk and Gurdurr can reliably dispose of it, or Ghost type pivots like Froslass and Rotom could give more leeway while playing around Ursaring’s moves and Trick Room turns. If Ursaring returns in Scarlet and Violet, a limited dex, mechanical changes, and some kind of new buff will be necessary for it to escape Untiered.
it got an evolution so that means that it will be able to hold an eviolite
@@yadielrosado8012 I hope for that! I am also just preparing myself for Ursaring not returning, Ursaluna not being available in SV, Ursaring getting the Meltan treatment and being programmed as a fully evolved Pokémon, or Ursaring losing moves/abilities or general move/ability cuts in SV.
@@annaangelic2318 ursaring won't get the meltan treatment, something that people tend to forget is that ursaluna isn't a hisuian form, it's a new evolution to an already existing pokemon, like rhyperior is to rhydon and the only time we have seen rhydon without rhyperior is in gen 1 and gen 2 remakes
@@yadielrosado8012 Im well aware that Ursaluna isn’t a Hisuian form and is a regional evolution. However, we’ve had experiences like with the cited Meltan where a new Pokémon without the ability to evolve in the mainline games but could evolve in an outside game was present. Ursaring is unlike any of the other regional evolutions, as it isn’t a Hisuian form, so it’s entirely possible that it may not be able to evolve in SV given its specific evolution requirements in PLA. I think it’s rather bold to say either of us know what’s going to happen lol
@@annaangelic2318 they can allways add the peat block to scarlet and violet
If Ursaring/Ursaluna get Slack Off or something similar, I can see them both being a terror.
Ursaring needs the 90 base speed which can be traded for the hp and special attack stats
Finally, was waiting on this for years
Personally I feel like this one should have been saved until later. Forecasts frequently suggest that Ursaluna would be a face-breaking monster in a Gen 9 competitive scene and it may have benefited your coverage further to take a look back at the entire evolution line.
Shut up
But double dip videos
Idk why but I feel like it’s gonna be the Garmanitan of Gen 9
Ursaluna with a Flame Orb, Guts, and STAB in Facade and Earthquake, and Ursaring with Eviolite and Unnerve? Is Teddiursa also good in Little Cup or something? Also will Curse be with Ursaluna? I’m considering teaching an Ursaring in Pokémon Crystal Curse by TM, giving Ursaluna that move.
No transfer moves in gen 9, so you can already forget the whole Cursaluna thing
@@kwayke9 Who said that? Is there an official link, statement, or something similar?
They have not ever said there won't be transfer moves in gen9.
My Ursaluna in Pokemon Legends Arceus was a total BEAST. But even before I managed to find my first Peat Block, my Ursaring was plenty reliable. Never used one before so it was nice to branch out.
Awesome video! Its incredible how much research you did for that! Is it possible you can do Lurantis?
I remember when me and my friend played on gen 4 online Ursaring with flame orb was my horror... I didn't knew how to stop it until my cousin said evolve your Schyther.... And with his help I got Bullet Punch Scyzor who ruled and finally I was able to win until he used his Blaziken and destroyed him.... But hey! It's a total victory for me... Also I won 3 out of 5 so still a good memory
Honestly I wish Ursaring gained some stat buffs during Gens 6-7 when other older Pokémon did. Buffing its defensive stats to be roughly 85-90, plus giving it Drain Punch, I think would've already been enough to keep it relevant enough in PU during Gen 7 so that Dodrio didn't nearly completely outclass it.
Ursaring’s Crystal sprite looks like he’s strumming an electric guitar.
We all remember Paul's Ursaring, the first Pokemon he caught in the Diamond and Pearl anime that he didn't release, unlike his trio of Starly and also Stantler which he caught in the same episode as Ursaring
That's the thing, it was a powerful Pokémon and proved that many times afterwards. It's like if IVs existed in the anime.
Considering that it's defence is one of the main things keeping it back, I shudder to think of how vicious eviolite ursaring will be.... but I also reaaally wanna see it. Please gamefreak? Just this once?
Oh man I was so proud of myself in Gen2 for raising this guy. Haven't seen or heard from him in like 20 years lol
I have a Soft spot for Ursaring as in my first playthrough of the pokemon mod 'Pokemon Reborn' Teddy Ursa was a early encounter and 'Mama Bear' was my go to Normal type. Glad to see it getting covered today.
Quick Feet only removing the paraylsis speed drop is both perfectly fair to removing the attack drop with guts and the biggest showcase of how important speed is that it would be used with a toxic orb
Ursaring has always been one of my favorites. I really hope all the new Pokémon are in Gen 9 so it can use eviolite
Ursaring was my first Shiny in my Gold Edition back in the day. It was piss yellow but I was still very proud about it.
Love to see Gen 2 videos 😄
Ursaluna is going to be a beast of a Pokémon. In case anyone doesn’t already know this, it has the same base stat total as urshifu but has higher attack, hp, defense, and special defense.
How broken is Bloodmoon Ursaluna actually?
FINALLY!!!!!! I love this pokemon. One of my favorite pokemon and Paul's was so brutal.
Max attack of 394 powered up with Guts was truly a beast. Its only weakness was Fighting
I hadn't considered that Ursaluna's existance implies the possibility of eviolite Ursaring in the future. That's a beary scary thought...
I always felt that ursaring had potential in competitive, especially cuz of its huge attack stat, couple with a guts boosted facade, not to mention it could do pretty good in trick room.
Double battles are very unforgiving for frail pokemon like Ursaring
@@nautilus2612 hm makes sense.
One of my favorite Normal Types, and Paul’s Ursaring was the reason for it. While Ursaluna is also great, Ursaring could definitely use more defense. Plus, Guts boosted Facade is fun if you can get it off.
Imagine evolite ursuring, A pokemon that's basically a snorlax with a status nullifying ability and a massive move pool
Can't wait for Ursaluna to arrive in gen 9, that thing is gonna be a monster
I loved Paul’s Ursaring and I liked using it in Soul silver
I’m excited for Ursaluna to be added specifically because I’d love to try out Eviolite Ursaring
Finally I remember commenting on a few videos just: "How GOOD was Ursatron ACTUALLY"
I like the way Ursaring crosses its arms back and forth