These Minnesota Miners are Breaking With Tradition to Vote for Trump
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- Опубліковано 25 вер 2020
- In the country, there are different things that you care about as your top issues. We talk to miners in the Iron Range who are in unions who typically endorse democratic candidates-but not in 2020. See why they're supporting President Trump
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We talk to miners in the Iron Range who are in unions who typically endorse democratic candidates-but not in 2020. See why they're supporting President Trump
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wow the hate and evilness in these people all that because they can't stand someone they can't control like president Trump
@@flecha213 do you feel the same when cnn cover anti trump shite
From afar. Democrats just don’t care about miners, so give them a big MISS & that important Vote to TRUMP, he loves miners and that’s the TRUTH
Bruce Bartlett - what does loving miners look like? Gutting mine safety and environmental policy? Taxpayer subsidies for the mining industry? Tax breaks for the 1%? Spending 200x what you pay in taxes to shtoop a porn star?
@@brucebartlett46 But what has he done for miners? He probably couldn't name a single one he's spoken to.
a journalist actually being a journalist, I'll be damned.
Agree. Man i wish all journalist just let people speak their minds rather than go for gotcha. I mean left or right, real answers are normally grey.
Yeah, people shouldn't have to answer hard questions.
@@submittedbymail
I doubt most people can answer hard questions in few minutes. Hard questions are hard because answers are never straightforward requiring history, context, application and mis-application. If you have 2-3hrs interview like Joe Rogan podcast sure ask hard questions but be prepared for it to be a dialogue the interviewer needs to answer it themselves in the context for his personal experience.
Now journalist asking hard questions is just a gotta tactic and clip cutting for headline fishing. Hard questions are meant to be explored because hard questions dont have clear partisan answers.
Should watch John Stossel.
Great journalist speaking with respect to our needs
This gal doing the interviewing was great, hats off to her. She wasn’t bias and only wanted peoples honest opinions.
I like how she didn’t interrupt or speak in a condescending tone.
Probably because she's also voting for Trump
Don't worry, she'll have been reprimanded for it. Can't have honesty as a journalist in 2020.
@@jpara617 what do you think about people who vote for trump?
Idk she looked bothered when she read the "democrats left me" part
She wasn't even condescending or interjected her own point of view. I wish I could see more reporting like this.
@Тhغ Pдىтд Мдй I've never actually seen something like this before.
Thats the first thing I noticed. Spot on.
News Networks today are just outlets for imbeciles to vent about their political opinions
This is what reporting should be. Find a well spoken person on each side, ask an open ended question, then let them each explain their position without interruption.
@Cat Kingradio883 seems like a golden era to live in. Right now is quite scary.
Never believe to hear this from vice. This is the kind of journalist we people need
Wow, VICE did some honest reporting???? Somebody pinch me!!
What you need is a GED.
Vice, while can be left leaning, tends to be very fair
Biden and Family Corrupt Enterprise
@@johnsmith1474 insulting much?
Shes a good interviewer because she doesnt antagonize people, she just asks the questions and gets straight to the answers
Yup
Why would she antagonize people?? People's political choice isnt something to be antagonized with
@@ysc6834 exactly
MexicanTacos 07 doesn’t real capitalism just drive out small businesses and promote monopolies
@@ysc6834 most journalists have a very antagonizing streak when it comes to the working class
Everyone complimenting the interviewer...I agree, she didn't seem to inflict any bias in any way. Nice job Ms.
Yes they need someone like her to moderate the presidential debates.
Very rare for Vice
Opening few seconds: "before China started STEALING business" (my emphasis).
But did they "steal" business or did the oligarchs move there for their own profits?
Does anyone know her name?
@Giovanni Magz woah that's crazy. I didn't know that.
It's not just the reporter doing a fair job, it's the producer as well and Vice's willingness to even post this segment. So credit all around on this one.
Do you do amazon reviews as well?
@@submittedbymail I use to do amazon reviews, until they failed to appreciate the humor.
Yea because they aren’t dissing Trump so if course you think it’s fair
@@TheOpinionSports But it is fair...they talked to the democratic union leader, let him express his opinion that I personally agree with (on whether the Republicans care about the mining companies or the actual workers), but also reached out to the population that has left the democratic party after their regulating plummeted their main source of economy. They're in a tough spot, as any fossil fuel hotspot will be for the next decades. This piece was great to show the viewpoints of the individuals in the middle of the crisis.
Wow. Who is this lady? She is a true journalist. Haven't seen one since the early 90's
Shane B. I’ve never seen one I’m to young 😅
I am attracted to this lady
Tanner Roberstsonski I’m attracted to you😳
Wow..This is pro trump..Not fake news huh? Fits your agenda.. Hahaha.
Journalist bullshitted just as much back then. Its just today theres social media and more fact checking
Reading through these comments and seeing how much the American people are craving REAL JOURNALISM makes me sad.
Thats gay
Real news is Dead in the main stream media’s 🤮🤮🤮❌❌❌
@@35Colorado "liberal reporter giving his or her opinion"? Ever watch fox? Every night is obama this , clinton that. Every f*ckn night!!! Obama DERANGEMENT SYNDROME !!!
@Gmmonica godsgotthis Ummmm...copy and paste much?
It’s sad that most of the objective pieces I see about American politics are from foreign sources
Not very many journalists left like her. You see how she didn’t side with either side that is how you do an interview!!
I agree, great interview!!
Didn't really have to Trump voters make themselves look dumb.
@@jackofclubz lol Biden supporters don’t even know what gender they are so you can’t call trump supporters stupid and not Biden supporters. Liberals say they believe science and then go against science.
yes i liked how she kept it simple and had a pad and paper instead of looking at the questions she was going to ask off of an iPad. i think it makes the interviewee make comfortable
@Kevin Prima my mom,auntie, and sister all went to college. One is a nurse and the other two are teachers and they are trump supporters. A majority of conservative college students lie about there political party because they fear their grade will suffer. Do research on it.
Telling the truth. Finally someone in media is honest with us. That is really ALL we want.
100 % right
Props this was real journalism, we need this.
It's always been there, you guys just havn't bothered to tune in.
Because your ADHD minds can't handle it.
@@Orcawhale1 I have ADHD. Journalism has been in the drain for a couple years now. Anything reporting on celebrities lives is an example. Why no mainstream coverage over the current conflict in Armenia and Azerbaijan?
@Broken Gas Mask No, it hasn't.
There's still done plenty of good journalism, but you guys arn't seeing it.
Because none of you are acully interested in it. Your just here to be a virtue signaling idiot..
@@volatile100 Nope, it's fine.
And as for mainstream coverage, i hate to break it to ya, but Vice news isn't mainstream..
@@Orcawhale1 It's only journalism when it paints Trump in a good picture.
Vice doing honest reporting? Props where props is due.
Right! I was expecting her to be rude an disrespectful
It's so rare, but when they do it they actually produce some of the best quality content out there.
I had my doubts waiting for the twist, but I’m glad they did this report.
Agreed. This is solid reporting. In a word? Unbiased.
Only because they reported positively on Trump supporters. The moment they report negatively on all the negative things you do, then you lose it and call it fake news. Lol
Just look at what happened to Chris ray gun when he talked about Trump.
VICE did a great job hiring this lady, questions and answers and she’s not putting her own views in. GOOD JOB VICE 👍
Sadly I think they will either sack her or make sure she changes her attitude to their usual routine.
@@bahane I hope not. Not when it’s finally starting to look good.
@@bahane LOL...you can't be serious.
If any anchor or journalist wants to gain audience just do your work: inform the people, be honest, do not censor free speech or accept cancel culture and unfairness and you’ll be a favorite... vice is starting to understand.
This was the least biased piece of media I've encountered in quite some time. Although it didn't provide very much detailed information, I have to commend it for that.
Genuine Journalists, why don’t we have more of this on the mainstream?
because 98% of MSM is owned by 6 billionares and they are all hardcore dems
@@dmx1721 No, because statistically, most of America are Democrats
'Cos it's not good for the left!
@Marni Maren Dems had more votes in 2016 and 2018 lol
Because mainstream media is inundated with political activists disguised as journalists.
this reporter is good, just asking the questions without adding her own politically motivated monologue, props
No doubt will be sacked soon.
Agreed. And easy on the eyes.
@@TheTruthHurts732 haha, im not blind! lol
Exactly. It would be nice if Vice could get back to the early days- before Maher got involved and fucked it all up. It actually used to good to watch.
@@hudsontoo1212 True, like everything else got Woke.
Did not expect this from Vice. A lot of working people are for Trump. American needs to take notice.
Good luck to america, the last thing they need is biden.
And they need to stop thinking that “working” means “uneducated”
@humandxp Yes everyone is against you little man, get a life.
Just the loud ones.
Republicans are supporting the business owners, while trying to destroy their workers pensions and benefits. They want you to be happy you have a job, then take away your health care and retirement.
Stuff like this is what Vice needs to do in order to regain any of their past popularity and credibility. Be fair to both sides.
People don't realized this is not about "both" sides". Trump deserves all the bad press and is not because he is "conservative " ; trump is not even a conservative or a religious man. McCain was a decent and rational men. If a reality tv star became the democrat nominee I would be barfing too
@Robert Holst wtf are you talking about Trumps administration has killed civilians with drone strikes probably just as many and it will probably stay that way regardless if a democrat or republican is Potus. You should probably stop telling people to wake up because you're living in a dream world.
I have to give props when they are due, good well rounded JOURNALISM.
@conan 263 When you agree with them, it's good journalism. When they say something that makes you uncomfortable, it's fake news.
I've had some media training and this video is not nearly as well rounded as you might think. they used a lot of common media "tricks" through out the video, and if you know these techniques it's pretty clear. The video wasn't so much ain't Trump, but to the typical VICE watcher (young people with no use for facts) it showed the Trump supports in a negative manner.
@@bobbeckey6941 Lay it on us, expert.
@@bobbeckey6941 Still waiting.
@@nimrodery
1.) the big miner was really well spoken, but they choose him cause he's very heavy and looking kind of hill billy with a sick dog. they always look for people that look stupid.
2.) when ever they mentioned environmentalists they showed beautiful ponds and lakes. when they talked about the mines they showed ugly smokestacks and rock piles.
3.) they never mentioned the workers contribution to the community, and only talked about them wanting to get paid more money.
there's more but the miner guy really made this video look good. the reporter knows how to make the mines look bad to people in the middle. and she did.
Oh I went to the store. I'm not glued to the computer.
You know true journalism when you see one. This interview is one.
Funny how it's only "true journalism" if it doesn't challenge your narrative XD
@Stop Eating My Sesame Cake so, in other words, exactly what I previously said?
@@sgtjohnson49 except you said one narrative but its avoiding bias on BOTH narratives, which wasnt what you said
@@sgtjohnson49 I think the amount of people that are getting tired of accountability journalism is a surprisingly large portion of the population. That's what you are seeing in the comment section.
"China started stealing..." no, business took the jobs and money abroad, don't forget to highlight that point. This is a global issue, all business are doing this.
Yes! Capitalism moved the jobs overseas.
......iron mines shutdown because China metal was cheaper so America started buying from China instead of American metal. The jobs/businesses in these cases didnt move they shutdown all together. Until now.
And lets not act like China doesnt force their wages to stay so low that the global market cant compete. That in a way is stealing jobs on the backs of their countrys ppl. Human rights is not a thing in China.
@@Jaxboy86 That's state sponsored Capitalism. We could refuse to buy from the companies who use overseas manpower.
@@practicalone2 I think the world should do that. Knock China down a peg.
How did tRUMP work out for you? LMAO! All the mines back open????
Surprised the reporters didn't suggest the miners learn to code. ..
Good idea tho :o
Reporters should learn to report
@@Platerpus7 and to code. *BANNED ON TWITTER*
Of course Trump is to be trusted.
Im a cs student and i HATE how ppl say "everyone should learn to code"
This reporter seems to ask much less leading and loaded questions than many other of the more liberally biased reporters. I like that objective tone, too.
Her tone is very neutral and respectful.
@d vaz As long as you know liberals n conservatives are *both* misinformed. As long as you know the Democrat party and the Republican party are two branches of the same party. As long as you know Trump = Biden = Trump. They're all the same. It's all shenanigans n fakery n f*ckery.
@Milhaus You can't label it not true off your personal experiences like that. Maybe you were like that but you can't generalize all liberals. Thats as stupid as generalizing all conservatives
@@keisi1574 exactly. People focus too much on shitting on the other side, all it does is keep us divided.
It's called editing
Best current journalist I’ve seen in a while.
me too.
This doesn’t seem like a Vice piece. It seems way to honest for Vice.
Well it's not a Fox news after all.
As a Minnesotan, the union leader is right: Expanding mining is only going to benefit the mining companies, but not the miners. Most modern mining is automated and doesn't need as much labor as it did in the past, especially if companies are trying to be cost-effective and competitive with China. Any expansion is not going to bring in nearly as many jobs as people think, and the little guy is going to continue to get screwed.
At the same time the use of coal shuld be stopt, because of the emissions while burning it. We can't just ceep up going this path.
so....you know u are actually regressive? U want to defend a dying status quo instead of adapting. The economy changes. It ALWAYS had. You can't keep mining forever. You need to TRANSITION. Transition to an automated economy. Fighting technology is just retarded.
As a Minnesotan, hey howdy you goin to the state fair food thing?
@@danabowring It was cancelled. But even if it wasn't, I wouldn't go. Because as a true Minnesotan, I hate crowds.
Tim LaBerge Damn straight!
Give the reporter a raise, and find more like her.
Much better than the usual crap from VICE.
are the uncut interviews available somewhere? :3
This journalist is ture , objective and brilliant. We need more .
She should have asked Mr. Union Rep how he plans on getting pensions and health care for Miners if the Mines are closed by Democrat Tree Huggers.?
Can't possibly be a Vice employee, has to be a contractor. One who may not be used much more by them!
@@yadigjamesgang-xs7jj I've had some media training and this video is not nearly as well rounded as you might think. they used a lot of common media "tricks" through out the video, and if you know these techniques it's pretty clear. The video wasn't so much ain't Trump, but to the typical VICE watcher (young people with no use for facts) it showed the Trump supports in a negative manner.
@@bobbeckey6941 Oh, I caught all the subtle snark and innuendo, I was just surprised by the lack of the usual Vice crescendo concerning folks like us.
@yadig. Oh never fear, the Dems will "save them" with government handouts once they close the mines.
The USW rep really said it best, “do they support the companies, or the actual miners?” the sad part is these people think their company, and trump have their best interest at heart.
So what have the dems did for the miners ???
Mining is a dying industry unfortunately, best option is to bring some newer jobs into these areas. Not saying either is right or wrong.
Aaron YOX you are right. Since there are only two options so far (dem and rep) there is really no reason to vote except for change in it of itself. It’s not in favour of reps it’s against the current situation
@Jim Reiber Agree with you for sure time to cut the back and forth !
LOL you should have named your channel completely confused. Mining and drilling are massive and are going no where. Democrats just want to end it here and sell out America like dementia joe biden has done for 47 years.
Vice, from the people: you will make more money if you report more like this.
WHAT?!?!?! She wasn’t instigating or speaking in a condescending tone??? I’ll be damned that got me harder than sheet rock. A real journalist no bias, just honest questions to the every day joe. Good stuff.
This is like Blockbuster trying to stay afloat.
Hey .. don't make fun of Blockbuster!! I miss it so much. sniffle sniffle. lol
Bend oregon baby. Last blockbuster alive.
It's not like the world doesn't need iron anymore though. They just mine it elsewhere.
Hey, my daddy was a video store clerk, and my daddy's daddy was a video store clerk. We're a video store town - it's a culture, not just an occupation. Our economy was based on video stores, and Donald Trump is going to bring back the video stores that made this town great
@@owen8943 awesome brotha thats a staple of the society thats missing now. 👏
We will always need mining, make no mistake. The stuff you buy now is mined somewhere else.
True.
cars, computers, batteries, phones, etc. all came from mining.
Wow someone who actually gets it.
Can't deny this statement but it's more nuanced. We could reduce our dependance on mining a lot if we started recovering more waste material but we're investing too little in building the infrastructure and policy required for that.
This, its funny when hearing Biden say "another mining plant won't open up", yeah in America - they'll just go to Africa and steal some boys from their homes to do it over there.
@@bamiebal6242 Some industries will always be domestic, take paper production. Its just not worthwhile shipping. Like wise there will always be some level of mining in the U.S.
There are new solutions like fracking to get domestic production back. But that comes at a cost of the future.
The only real way forward is to push innovation. Think Elon Musk.
You have to be the best at something, or do something others wont or cant.
Conservatives dont like to hear it. But history shows that those who build stuff. Big stuff, skyscrapers, space rockets, atom smashers ec. There you find peak civilization. You can do this with public funding if the free market fails.
Not sure how they still voted Democrat since Obama. I cut the parts for Fletcher Equipment who made the massive excavators these guys use. Obama hit their industry hard. I was laid off due to the restrictions. Ive been a Republican ever since.
As a former local news journalist I agree she had a solid line of questioning here. For once Vice is surprising in a good way. Maybe the most opinionated Vice editors were on PTO that week
When one side does nothing for you, and hasn't for years, maybe it's time to give the other side a go.
It sounds so simple yet people refuse to change there ideas even if there State is being destroyed by Democrats. What in the world could people hate so much they watch there own lives go down the tubes. If they go with Biden the rest of your jobs will leave because the Global Warming Crew will be in charge and there goes your jobs and the rest will go to China because of Biden!!!!
@@jewel5641 Industries come and goes and no politician can stop the evolution.
the illusion of choice
Jewel trump is outsourcing jobs to china
The governor of Texas is ordering 1 ballot box per county
Trump eliminated 100,000 votes from iowa
Please do your research. Stop defending the corruption.
@geezusispan Trump has done allot actually. He lifted a mining restriction that was killing jobs in the Iron range. I live in the Iron Range and they are HIRING! I thought the Iron range was going to disappear. Then suddenly. They are hiring operators, mechanics, truck drivers, and pulling out trainloads of taconite. Minnesota needs to protect it's mines. Period. And the democrats have abandoned us for the environmental fascists.
I am Asian and I am in for all closing the door to China. Extract American companies from China and build our economy from home. Do more business with countries ( Haiti, India, Vietnam,Japan Korea ,Cambodia,Mexico...etc) that will make a difference and trust worthy.
Yup Australia should do the same.
Wow, thank you for your comment. It holds weight with me. It says a lot to say, Africa is more trust worthy than China. For me, I am very disappointed in the Chinese government. They play dirty. They are suppressive to their people.
Africa is not a country and it is an American company that is creating the facial recognition and ranking app that will oppressed the Chinese people more.
I notice you have a common Vietnamese name.
Good sense.
Isnt America due china $1.1t tho?
The landscape is so gorgeous. I mean look at those hills and 'lakes'.
The union representative admits that local union representatives don't want to talk to the press about political positions because "they don't want to piss their members off."" Excuse me, I thought the union was there to promote the "members" best interests. I know it is taboo in some States to discredit the union but I have personally dealt with both sides of the union. There are the workers that pay union dues and there are the union executives who profit from those dues. What most working members of the union, those that pay the dues, don't know and will never be revealed to them by the company they work for or the union executives, is that when union contracts come due the executives of the union meet with company officials days before for the actual contract negotiations. When the meeting involving the working members of the union is scheduled, shop stewards, etc., the contracts have already been signed. The meeting with the working members of the union is only for show. It gives them the false pretense that they are part of the negotiations. Some may post that this is incorrect information but I have sit in both negotiation meetings. In the particular company I am referring to there existed both union and non-union facilities. The union facilities received less benefits and less pay than their non-union counterparts and these facilities had exactly the same jobs and existed in the same State. All non-union facilities received more pay and benefits than the union facilities. On top of that, the union facilities paid weekly union dues. The employees were aware that their sister facilities made more per hour and had better benefits. They were also informed that their pay and benefits would match their sister plants if the union was voted out but they never did. I truly did not and still do not understand this mentality. I ask you, who is really benefiting from your Union dues? In the original formation of the unions across America they were desperately needed but those days have long since past. All that aside, one thing is 100% sure. If you don't have a job because the government has deemed it environmentally unfriendly, there certainly won't be any negotiations over pensions, health care, or organizing. Your company won't exist and there certainly won't be a need for a union then. The union executives better wake up or they will find there is no longer any union dues coming in. Or, maybe the Democrats have made some " compensation" arrangements for their support. Just food for thought.
The "swamp" is not only in Washington DC, it runs deep and can be found in every state in the USA.
What’s the “swamp”?
method man the establishment politicians. A lot of democrats and also many republicans. Our governor here in ohio( Republican) is a swamp creature himself.
@@methodman8312 People who unwittingly fight for their slavemaster: The Federal Reserve.
JFK attacked the Federal Reserve and was assassinated.
Trump is anti Federal Reserve and anti war and is being attacked from all sides. And the most ironic part is that it's a self-appointed private institution with no accountability and no transparency.
Trillions of dollars literally just disappeared with "nobody knowing" where the money went. They plunder the people by printing money and they do what they want with impunity.
@@jay-xj1om aren't swamps designated for the protection of certain species?....
...😁🤣 sorry. couldn't help it
@@MarcDufresneosorusrex Good one, although I'd argue that _those_ types of swamps just come into existence due to weather and whatnot and species then evolve to survive in and around them.
Atleast there is one journalist at Vice, who is keeping their bias under control.
Every journalist has bias. It is human nature. Please educate yourself before joining in political discourse.
@@jeep1077 You know good and damn well what he means.
@@jeep1077 lol so every Vice journalist just so happens to lean left
@@jeep1077 ".... political discourse." One side wants to build and improve the country, and the other side is hell bent on burning it to the ground.. where is the discourse in that???
lol imagine being somebody who only believes somebody is being "unbias" because they agree with your opinions. Grow up.
The Democrats are not the same as they were.
Iron is important so Minnesota wake up!
@Marc Jonkman *no u*
My dad got his job taken over by some union junkies who got charged with drugs in the railroad under Obama
My dad was rising on the list quickly
The lower end would be the newer guys and those who don’t do much.
Then he got laid off right after having me, buying a truck, a car, a fourwheeler, and my parents were thinking about buying a new house.
He’s been back in his job for years now and he’s making a lot more money than what someone in his position would’ve made under Obama!
Now my parents have 13 year old me, my 9 year old sister, and my 3 year old brother, a few fourwheelers, a new 30,000 dollar car, his older Ford Focus, he’s had a few trucks, he got a side by side, they got that new house right before having my sister, and they’ve been able to get many other things!
"The environmentalist are the enemy" is like calling a dentist a bad guy from removing an infected tooth.
It's like smoking a cigarette because you don't believe the scientists.
not even close.
Yeah, but the Dem establishment hasn't offered them any help in getting other job training and opportunities. So they perceive environmentalist policies as threats to their livelihoods.
@@ParadoxRoyal You're dead-wrong. Dems have for years been pushing for free community college. That would allow experienced coal miners to retrain and take on new opportunities. A simple Google search will show you this.
www.google.com/amp/s/www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/show/job-training-community-college-put-coal-miners-new-path
@@n0yn0y That isn't nearly enough. We need jobs guaranteed as a right and a Green New Deal.
This interviewer/journalist is killing it with her objectivity.
@Gmmonica godsgotthis Bot
THIS IS SO FUCKING SAD THAT WE ARE PRAISING A JOURNALIST JUST FOR BEING OBJECTIVE!
@@richard70854 WHY ARE YOU YELLING?!?
Imagine if politicians were the same way.
This might be the best VICE piece I've seen since 2016. Really good work!
I had family grow up on the iron range and spent a few years living. The local economy of the iron range is heavily dependent on the mines ability to run around there. It’s the center of the spider web for many folks that live there.
"the democratic party left us..." I think a lot of people feel that way. I know I do.
Pres. Reagan said that many years ago, and I left with him and never looked back. No regrets. MAGA 2020
@John Williams ... along with infanticide. Add in BLM - burning, looting and murder. Along with open borders, drugs and people like AOC. Did I mention trampling on the Constitution, especially the first and second amendments? We seriously need term limits in Congress to prevent people like Mad Max Waters, Pelosi, Schumer along with about 500 others overstaying any usefulness they may have had. Biden said he had been a senator for 180 years.
Democrats were never with the workers, they just ran a great false narrative PR scheme.
John Williams how ironic. Trump is offering your lives up to covid. And you support him slaughtering you poor people.
Perry Champ yet trump murdered over 200,000 Americans and wants to murder more.
As a union railroad worker in MN, I understand where this man comes from. Our union leaders heard what we had to say a few years ago and then did the exact opposite of what we wanted. Turned their backs on us and sided with the company instead of the workers. Unions are getting weaker every year.
I hope you all realize that “real journalism” is not just journalism that presents a view you agree with. People are touting objectivity, but vice has not been praised this unilaterally in the past when it has objectively presented left-leaning views. Politicians want you to dismiss every news story that goes against your opinion because if you don’t you’ll learn about who they really are.
Occasionally we see a glimpse of the Vice of the past. She did a great job, doing something we don't see a whole lot of anymore... being a journalist.
I think on the surface she kept her bias in check. If we look a bit deeper she was treating the worker as a lost soul that was forced by external circumstances to change his way. And she treated the boss guy like if they had some unspoken understanding between them, like saying, hey what are these worker guys doing?.
Vice has been pretty consistent with good journalism. The "problem" occurred when they started showing you things you didn't want to see. It's good to see thousands of conservatives complaining about "objectivity" every time some video makes them look bad. I'm supposed to look at snippets of antifa fighting back and conclude "they're all thugs," and then watch journalists get beaten by white supremacists and conclude "fake news." Thanks for displaying the hypocrisy so enthusiastically.
@Rock Fella Judging by the fact you would judge someone's intelligence by their appearance, you're rather stupid. From your tendency to dis people you don't know, I can't say you're an okay person whether or not I get to know you.
@@nimrodery I'm not conservative.
They went the same route as so many other "journalist platforms.":
Sensationalism. They went from making genuinely good documentaries from dangerous locations, to over-hyping ordinary stories to try and get more viewers.
I bet it had something to do with their HBO deal (that they recently lost) and the executive they just let go of.
They tried (trying?) to compete with Buzzfeed at the click game. If you can't see this, it is because on some people it works really good. You are that person.
@Felix Stotts Really? So the guy who just replied with "They went from making genuinely good documentaries from dangerous locations, to over-hyping ordinary stories to try and get more viewers" doesn't know what he's talking about? They've always been heavily biased? I guess you replied to the wrong person.
4 years into Trump's presidency and the town still looks abandoned.
When Chicago fire happened it didn’t take 4 years to rebuilt right.
Trump 2020
Nothing Junior about "John Jr.": a 44yo male weighing 400 pounds, with a similarly overweight family. All will have diabetes and heart disease. America is a sh1thole. So he's talking to VICE about his life and mining career, his children's futures ... He could have a heart attack or stroke and die at any moment and his kids aren't even adults yet. What kind of unhealthy life are these people trying to preserve and at what cost?
@@unvcht5046 umm no fire took place. So instead of going down it should go up right? If your starting at a fair beginning without any fire. So....
DAVID REYES 8 years of fire under Obama
The last think I expected to see before the election was vice being objective, good job.
They did the same thing in Canada, we voted in people who regulated the Albert oil into debt and fake taxes then when the companies couldn't afford to keep running they sold the land to Chinese investors and deregulated the laws holding back Canadian businesses say the Chinese shouldn't have to adhere to Canadian laws.
that's what they're about to do here as well, I don't love Biden, but if they they think Trump will stand with them beyond deregulation of climate regulations they're in for a rude awakening..
@@philippealexandra468 The climate regulations are whats driving prices sky high. We cant compete with countries that don't follow the Paris agreement. We dont want to ruin the planet but we cant ruin ourselves either.
He works with construction workers... and doesn't pay them
Lmmfao 😂 it was just a photo op the hard hat messed his hair up
Trump has a track record in not paying vendors for services rendered. Pathetic for someone claiming they are billionaires
@@or1750
That's how you save money. By not paying for services rendered.
Ó R he’s most probably an actual billionaire. He managed to fool Forbes for years. Not surprising given the scale of his lying 🤥 🤥🤥
sure beacause unpaid construction workers build a skyscraper for 10 years without pay
The Party left us. Nothing more to say.
So happy for the Iron Range! I was laid off from Mintac in 1982
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1+1=TRUMPS END GAME
Your soul is lost and short sided thinking allowing you to believe in Trump.
Freedom lost doesn't have a party.
Educate yourself or learn regret.
Coil is a dying source of energy.
Why does the mayor not invest in the future technology.
Imagine how the steam industry was before diesel engines were added.
The mayor's blames others instead of getting off his ass and looking for answers and solutions.
You voted for it now you can live with it
I bet that steelworkers Union leader regrets his vote now!
I would like to hear more news from this reporter. I wish all reporters were like her. Thank you!
The problem is that people are one-issue voters and that one-issue is an unsustainable resource that is toxic to the environment
Not to mention highly automated, meaning they’re not even gonna get many more jobs out of expanding coal mines-just richer CEOs.
Not to mention EXREMELY HAZARDOUS! Who's going to want to pay the bill when the employees are dropping left and right? I sure wouldn't risk my life over keeping a company afloat. They ain't payin me enough for that.
They mine iron, which last time I checked was still a needed material. They aren't coal miners, this isn't a dying industry.
I agree. One issue voters are selfish
These voters are not selfish, it's incredibly obnoxious to call them that. No individual is going to choose the environment over their own livelihood. Democrats need to offer these people new work if they want to keep their votes while letting the mining industry collapse. This is why a green new deal is essential. It was clear what Sanders offered these voters, what does Biden offer? To try and turn them into coders?
I’m surprised after seeing this that the Iron Range was still decently won by Biden.
Yeah how many dead voters and make-believe ones.
Whoa. A piece of actual journalism from Vice.
Haven’t seen this in years! Great work from the reporter!
I am in the Teamsters union, in California, and I know many who are voting red.
the Teamsters have long been right wing supporters, nothing new about that.
@@bondjames5874 Funny, my local is pushing for the membership to vote Biden.
they should be shown republican records of union-friendly bills they shutdown instantly lol
Stop hanging out with idiots...
@@bikebudha01 i can't say you are wrong.
It’s easy to CON a fool, it’s nearly impossible to convince a fool that they have been CONNED!!!
Lol..😂😂😂😂
Alvin Aroa sorry I was talking about TRUMPANZEE’S. You need to stop watching and believing FOX it’s not news it’s commentary...
Tuho here’s just 1 example. It’s easy to look up just google lawsuits brought against Fox News for spreading false information. lawreview.syr.edu/fake-news-v-the-first-amendment-fox-news-gets-sued-for-alleged-campaign-of-deception-disseminating-of-disinformation-to-deny-downplay-the-danger-of-coronavirus/?back=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fsearch%3Fclient%3Dsafari%26as_qdr%3Dall%26as_occt%3Dany%26safe%3Dactive%26as_q%3DFox+News+being+taken+a+quart+for+spreading+misinformation%26channel%3Daplab%26source%3Da-app1%26hl%3Den
As Trump has said many times..."I love the uneducated". No more needs to be said.
quinten putnam CNN is no better, because they are very obvious with their leftist agenda and lies
Nice journalism - nice to hear good questions, thoughtful discussion, and real people being interviewed.
Either way Mining is becoming more and more Automated. Taking out the person is only logically, mining is one of the most dangerous jobs in the world, and if robots do the job not only work related deaths and injuries are minimize, mining companies can maximize their profits.
You clearly know nothing about taconite mining on the Iron Range...
I haven't seen this interviewer before, solid in every way, good luck and thanks for the positive interviews.
Wow Vice, I’m impressed. This was true journalism.
I spent 7 minutes waiting for this interviewer to bash Trump... It never happened. I think this is the first unbiased piece I have ever seen come from Vice. Congratulations
My Grandpa was a miner. This is heartening. By the way, I'm from the UK, is it my imagination or are these accents similar to Canada?
I’m thinking the same thing!! Typically every state that borders canadas sound the same with the exception of Washington , Idaho and Montana.
Boundary Waters is nearby, you can canoe right into Canada...
It’s not your imagination, the Minnesota accent is similar to Canadian. Where they filmed this is a little under two hours from the border.
Let’s not have good drinking water it’s ok they will have a job
... your drinking water is in no way connected to that mine runoff, you need to look into the civil engineering involved in water distribution
Better to have a roof over your head and the ability to buy water. Who even drinks tap water nowadays anyways besides the family pet
@@narcissisticcapitalist1842 😂😂👍💯
You have no idea what you are talking about. I work In the biggest mine up here and the water around the mines are very clean.
Alberto Corral my privileged English bulldog drinks Fiji also
America needs a war on ignorance and invest in education.
There’s this thing called a library card, it only costs a few dollars, you should check it out sometime.
ᚠᚢᚱᛟᚱ ᛏᛖᚢᛏᛟᚾᛁᚲᚢᛊ ᛋ pretty sure they do. Gain some skills that are valuable to this world.
rightly said,
I still wonder what makes U think humans can put an end to using IRON in the next 100-150yrs. It's indispensable at least for now!
Instead of importing cheap ore from around the world while chest-thumping about shutting mines at home, the focus should be on better-extraction methods, responsible mining, pro-active aforestation, cleanup, etc!!
ᚠᚢᚱᛟᚱ ᛏᛖᚢᛏᛟᚾᛁᚲᚢᛊ ᛋ maybe it was a valuable skill then but not anymore. Everything is moving to automation and advancing with technology. This job will be replaced within 50 to 100 years becoming absolutely useless.
ᚠᚢᚱᛟᚱ ᛏᛖᚢᛏᛟᚾᛁᚲᚢᛊ ᛋ yet who’s making more money? A miner in a dead end town or a woman in gender studies? I know you wanna rip on gender studies, but at the end that’s actually gonna be more useless in terms of education and communication in this new world than a miner from the past.
Lots of union members are voting for trump. Way more than you would imagine.
Same thing happened in Australia last election. The Democrat equivalent lost lots of blue collar votes and lost the election when they had a stronger lead on the polls than Biden
They're doing the right thing. Trump is the only hope for the working people.
This is why we need to get rid of the two-party system.
We need to bring in an army of Indians to rule our country. Oh waits that’s San Francisco
We have more than 2 parties.no one supports them
@@wyattwilkinson2187 I know. But systemic change is required for more third party support
@@babington4394 when you can’t trust the left or the right we need to bring in the Indians who will take us forward
Finally, a Vice reporter who is not a wanna be Hunter S. Thompson.
Reminder that hunter s thompson defended his ranch land with automatic weapons
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Yes, Trump "works with construction workers." He also brags to cheering crowds about how he doesn't pay them.
Yeah good argument..(sarcasm) ..but didn't you pay attention to the part where they said they voted Democrat for decades and the Democrats sent all the jobs and with it their economy to China, forcing them to leave the town to look for jobs? Let me ask you something? Would you rather be paid X amount of money instead of NO MONEY??
@@jacobblue1985 that china thing would've happened no matter who was in power. It's how capitalism works :)
By the way, I'm not a trump supporter but I know bullshit and reality when I hear it
@@jacobblue1985 We had 8 years of GW, 8 years of Obama, and now 4 years of Trump. It hasn't exactly been a straight ticket.
As for bullshit, hearing that Trump cares about the average joe when he brags about not paying contractors for their works is reality when I hear it. The challenge is that his followers cheer him on because they think he is stiffing other people but he won't stiff them. Guess what, he did, he does, and he will.
Through loop holes. Who better to fix the loopholes?
This is why I prefer VICE. They let the people talk, not their journalists.
This is definitely an outlier for VICE though
@@TheRedstonedeluxe Depends on the topic. I usually watch their videos on foreign affairs in Africa and Asia. Their pieces on U.S. politics are usually annoying though and in that sense you would be right.
It's refreshing to see honest journalists. I think this is what journalism should aspire to be like.
"I'm a single issue guy, I only care about mining."
This dude straight out the Misty Mountains.
80% of America right there my friend. They want government to stay out of the way and let them earn a living.....
Where was Gondor when the Westfold fell!?!?!
@@Venim85 legend
@@Venim85 where was gondor when our enemies closed in around us?
When the socialists destroy your job (assuming you have one now), what are YOU going to care about?
"I'm a one-issue person."
a "one-issue person" should never hold political office.
1,000% agree
Around here life revolves around that 1 issue, it also funds our whole state.
My dude. The entire town revolves around mining...
Rob Thomas Trump’s one issue: himself.
He should in a one-issue town. Everything depends on mining there. You're not making sense.
I’m proud of you vice, keep this up and see what it does for how your videos are received in the future. Good impartial journalism
What sorcery is this? Vice doing actual journalism/reporting...... Holy
why not hold the mayor accountable for not bringing more industries to his community! adapt, change!
Indeed. What do mayors and governors do? Why is it all the way up to the president to deal with these things?
Nate Simmons because unfortunately most Americans especially in rural areas don’t vote or care about local elections or politics which turns out to quite matter a lot.
@Lurking Buddha I'm sure you've enveloped yourself in the relevant literature and would only say that on an informed basis
@@HardenJID then they shouldn't come in front of TV and complain.
@Lurking Buddha Meanwhile the consevative party is quietly building up a base of young driven politicians that some may even call "progressive." They'll soften on a lot of policies like abortion or same sex marraige - making them a lot more agreeable to moderates on the left. Oppose that to the hard left, loud mouthed glorified activists maquerading as young democratic politicians. They seem more interested in having a bigger soap box to scream from than actual leadership. Soon the Republican Party is going to look much more sensible than the Democratic party with all their sqauking heads.
You'll see, once The Donald is out of office - be it this election or the next. Without TDS to unite them, the dems will start sqaubbling like the egotistical schmucks they are.
Dont know why miners expect mining jobs to come back.
You can't make steel without iron ore. It's that simple.
Wayne Hasch Runescape taught me that
Because they're hopeful that they can keep their jobs. Make sense
Exactly. They need jobs, but also job training. I wish politicians pushed to set aside money for green job training for them.
@@waynehasch5978 that job is either increasingly automated or places with cheaper wages/overheads.
2:45 you can tell she's pissed and there's nothing she can do about it
😂😂😂 Looked like she was about to frisbee that tablet straight out the window.
I was pleasantly surprised with how unbiased this interview was, especially considering it is by Vice. Excellent job!
the world used to admire America...now we thnk...WTF ?...
Trump. Simple
I would trade my citizenship with an American one
Somali Pirate 哇 trump upset the countries getting rich off of america
We all looked up to you. We all wanted to "be like Mike".
Turns out, even Mike was a borderline sociopath.
They still do
There’s a reason why more Europeans and Canadians move to the U.S than vice versa
"Change is the only constant in the world " ... People need to understand this .
And you have to understand that people have to eat. I agree we have to change the way we get our energy, but these families are not responsible for that. Big corporations and the government should have to develop a new energy strategy and get everybody into it. That's clearly not the case and in the meantime these people will continue to live on food stamps.
Having to choose between the environment and feeding my family really is a no brainer
We should help these people change so they can live too
Are you saying the only permanent is impermanence
This mans a Coal minor at heart but obviously he's not seeing the shift in society, he didn't see it when Obama was president and he is still not seeing it under trump if he had he would have went to school and upgraded his education on clean energy which this whole country has been trying to shift towards for last idk 15 years. Instead he sat his fat ass at home and waited and waited and waited and complained for now almost 12 years and did nothing to educate himself. So his solution to getting coal jobs back is to vote for trump who still hasn't brought back any of those jobs back bcuz we are moving forward with clean energy. This man is the definition of stupid
Yes, but this isn’t natural change like the bunny whip going away. The world still needs their products but the Democrats are trying to strangle them.
They should break with the tradition of over eating.
Bring the iron range back to its glory!
Remember, the mining companies go away, so does your employment opportunities, including UNIONS!
Yep it seems like the Unions care more about their power where as the workers care about their job
Looks like the union bosses are very stupid. The company and workers can survive without union boss but union boss can't.
Unions take your money and you don't see anything in return.
Maybe once upon a time they did something, now they steal your hard earned money.
Maybe get a trade that adapts to the ever changing global economy and industry. It's not 1955 anymore.
Exactly!!! Mining by definition is not infinite. We have to plan for everyone's future, especially the miners. No, not their corporate bosses who then use regulation as an excuse to cut jobs.
Or, just maybe, maybe, make the mining companies to actually use their tax breaks and profits to put in environmental safe guards for their mining operations so that it'll be sustainable.
Maybe.
They are too stupid tot learn something else
Yea as much as i feel for communities that lost their livelihood due to the finite nature of their local industry, they need to move on. Trump says he is going to fix all of this mess but his track record says otherwise, he supports the corporations, not the workers that populate these towns. I grew up in Pittsburgh which was the mecha of steel production until the 70's, initially our city struggled but has since transformed and diversified it's workforce and is a great place to live today.
Lol where do u ppl think the materials that make up your electric cars and iPads comes from? The sky? Do want it extracted in a third world country without regulations and by children?
Wow, I'm surprised you put this out vice. Good for you 🤘🏼🤨🤘🏼
The union boss is concerned with union issues (retirement, so on), not actual jobs...if Biden wins there are no mining jobs, no retirement, no health care, no union...the workers are smart to see that.