Osiomancy/verity is really good. Better than many original exotics. Even necrotic/syntho is top tier. These 2 roles are worth it. Even osiomancy/star eaters is damn good. U can get good grenade regen and also great damage boost to novabomb, especially with void artifact.
An assassins cowl/claw with a Monte Carlo on a lightning surge build would be disgusting. My best ones I’ve gotten so far, are a necrotic/battle harmony and stag/(whichever one gives empowered weapon damage refunds grenade energy). The stag one was killer in Excision grandmaster
The necrotic synthos being top tier is CRAY-Z considering it has to be built into. Wish there was tier for that. It’s not trash but it’s definitely not a roll that is flexible like other actual top tier options.
@@Epicninfa96 Yeah, the hardest part about this list was the top end. I couldnt really find good overall places for them. I would probably move it down one if i had to.
Hey great vid! Will say people are not experimenting enough with these and thus aren’t realizing their full potential. Example: Filaments and Vesper should be in Great When Built Into. If you run the arc super, the rift will blind enemies. Run weavers call and hellion and now you got devour, threadlings, and the Solar buddy attacking blinded enemies that are also being damaged by your rift. Inmost and vesper is pretty much the same too.
I used to run several stag and vesper builds and liked them alot. Was well chuffed when i got a stag vesper bond dropped some time ago, made a build with it, but then was kind of underwhelmed by it. Getting your rift back when critically wounded was stripped from stag, and increased rift energy regen determined by the amount of enemies near, was stripped from vesper. Obviously both original stag and vesper suffered from the ability mod orb etc nerfs on their own. But with 100 recov and only Hope, and nothing much else to aide rift regen, the absence of critical intrinsics, and not being able to spec into stuff like creating tons of ionic traces + arc soul etc, im afraid i feel both exotics do much better in their original form on another subclass instead of a bond. 😢
That sucks man. It seems like Bungie was a little to afraid to make certain powers to good when using it on a the bond. I suppose so it didd't make the original exotic useless. The other classes have some really good combo's though that im jealous of.
@@ITZJ1MB0 seems so yeah! And kinda understandable as well, every exotic class item was neutered in some way compared to their original, but some more or more critical than others 🤣. No worries m8 lotsa others that are nice! The apotheosis harmony plus an apotheosis star eaters you hinted on (lucky enough i got both!) Swap shenanigans is cool. Take another look at assassin's syntho, Strand, arcane needle, feed the void, lightning surge, protection, heavy handed, radiant orbs, galvanicarmor. . Surge into a group of addies, Syntho buffs it, you clap them all, get amplified, proc galvanic, get your orb from handed, get woven mail, radiant, devour, etc. Nice loops.
Necrotic / claw is crazy strong with song of flame. 😊😊 double melee charges makes the super do a lot more damage because the melee attack costs half the energy of the nade. I think maybe star eater and claw would be maximal for GMs
I don’t have any perfect god rolls yet but I’m trying to decide between two decent rolls. What would you all use between 1)Osimo/Star-Eater or 2)Apoth/Verrity’s?
Inmost gives regen, not dmg btw. My best warlock class exotics are osmiomancy star eater and osmiomancy verity. Im looking hard for necrotic star eater to complete my warlock on class items.
@@davidgabrieltaylor I believe I miss spoke when talking about In most light, mainly to do with Verity, if you time it right then you can get good regen and extra dmg from Verity. :)
Honestly not really. Swarm gives a lot of passive darkness energy when built into, say by using Final Warning. You can try it yourself but it's quite noticeable for transcendence generation and add clear in high density activities like the new battlegrounds. Cake for the worst goes to Starfire imho.
Honestly, hoil, apotheosis, star eater are the only things you use on a bond otherwise you're better with a normal exotic... Or memeing. Like me, I like to meme assassin on every subclass because I love assassin's cowl, but to get serious, hoil is the pick, apotheosis star eater for dps, or just use a normal exotic.
you have a pretty bad take on these class Items tbh..... apotheos veil and swarmers. Go really hard with a strand threadling Build. I just have no idea why you would put Necrotics and synthesives in "pretty strong" Please rethink your life and delete this video
For warlocks I think Using the original exotic is better than the bond , except for apotheosis combos.
And by the way this is a great videao😊
@@dohaqatar6025 It feels that way. Thanks for the comment!
Osiomancy/verity is really good. Better than many original exotics. Even necrotic/syntho is top tier. These 2 roles are worth it. Even osiomancy/star eaters is damn good. U can get good grenade regen and also great damage boost to novabomb, especially with void artifact.
100% agree. Other than DPS starts the class item is mid tier
An assassins cowl/claw with a Monte Carlo on a lightning surge build would be disgusting.
My best ones I’ve gotten so far, are a necrotic/battle harmony and stag/(whichever one gives empowered weapon damage refunds grenade energy). The stag one was killer in Excision grandmaster
Osio/Eater top tier. You get neutral game and boss dps. Weird take
I'm currently looking for this roll.
My favorite roll ive gotten
The necrotic synthos being top tier is CRAY-Z considering it has to be built into. Wish there was tier for that.
It’s not trash but it’s definitely not a roll that is flexible like other actual top tier options.
@@Epicninfa96 Yeah, the hardest part about this list was the top end. I couldnt really find good overall places for them. I would probably move it down one if i had to.
What do you think? Tell me your favourite combos and their tiers!
I’d bump HOIL and Star Eaters and Osmio and Star Eaters into top tier.
Both have great neutral game perks and an insane DPS perk
@@davidb.9110absolutely. This dudes tier list is terrible.
Hey great vid!
Will say people are not experimenting enough with these and thus aren’t realizing their full potential. Example: Filaments and Vesper should be in Great When Built Into. If you run the arc super, the rift will blind enemies. Run weavers call and hellion and now you got devour, threadlings, and the Solar buddy attacking blinded enemies that are also being damaged by your rift. Inmost and vesper is pretty much the same too.
@@thebetus8803 ill have to test when i get the roll after the 300 exact same roll.
Osmio/star eater and osmio/verity are the ones i really need, but still havent got them after about 40 bonds
I used to run several stag and vesper builds and liked them alot. Was well chuffed when i got a stag vesper bond dropped some time ago, made a build with it, but then was kind of underwhelmed by it. Getting your rift back when critically wounded was stripped from stag, and increased rift energy regen determined by the amount of enemies near, was stripped from vesper. Obviously both original stag and vesper suffered from the ability mod orb etc nerfs on their own. But with 100 recov and only Hope, and nothing much else to aide rift regen, the absence of critical intrinsics, and not being able to spec into stuff like creating tons of ionic traces + arc soul etc, im afraid i feel both exotics do much better in their original form on another subclass instead of a bond. 😢
That sucks man. It seems like Bungie was a little to afraid to make certain powers to good when using it on a the bond. I suppose so it didd't make the original exotic useless. The other classes have some really good combo's though that im jealous of.
@@ITZJ1MB0 seems so yeah! And kinda understandable as well, every exotic class item was neutered in some way compared to their original, but some more or more critical than others 🤣. No worries m8 lotsa others that are nice! The apotheosis harmony plus an apotheosis star eaters you hinted on (lucky enough i got both!) Swap shenanigans is cool. Take another look at assassin's syntho, Strand, arcane needle, feed the void, lightning surge, protection, heavy handed, radiant orbs, galvanicarmor. . Surge into a group of addies, Syntho buffs it, you clap them all, get amplified, proc galvanic, get your orb from handed, get woven mail, radiant, devour, etc. Nice loops.
Necrotic / claw is crazy strong with song of flame. 😊😊 double melee charges makes the super do a lot more damage because the melee attack costs half the energy of the nade. I think maybe star eater and claw would be maximal for GMs
I don’t have any perfect god rolls yet but I’m trying to decide between two decent rolls. What would you all use between 1)Osimo/Star-Eater or 2)Apoth/Verrity’s?
Necrotic and star eater is nasty on song of flame
That's the one I have. It's awesome 👌
Osmioncy with verity is the same thing as just using full verity's.
Too save on clutter, how about breaking your tables down and making 8 sub tables, grouped by first perk. 64 bonds are getting cluttered.
Bad, when I need a spreadsheet to track what I've gotten, waiting for this video.
For the most part I agree that starfire isnt good. I have an osmiomancy and starfire roll that actuallly feels really good.
Inmost and stareater is easily the best one in the game. Unbelievable you put it in average.
My favorite was my first drop inmost an claw
My gm is ophidan an star eater its insanely badazz
What they did to necrotic was so sad 😭😭
What did they do?
@@thebhoy8561 they made it so thorn doesn't have synergies with the spirit version
@@unknowngaggler17is that a new update. Because it worked the other day
@@unknowngaggler17what lol thats not true unless its new
@@thebhoy8561 idk but aztecross talked about it in his exotic class items videos, Ive never actually tested it myself though so it might be false
Inmost gives regen, not dmg btw. My best warlock class exotics are osmiomancy star eater and osmiomancy verity. Im looking hard for necrotic star eater to complete my warlock on class items.
@@davidgabrieltaylor I believe I miss spoke when talking about In most light, mainly to do with Verity, if you time it right then you can get good regen and extra dmg from Verity. :)
Empowered weapon damage is radiant as well
@@vanevans1801 For Starfire? Because then it is a little better.
@@ITZJ1MB0 yeah man. I can double check but it’s an empowered buff . I will test
Inmost light + swarn is the best of them all
Swarm is one of the worst by far
Honestly not really. Swarm gives a lot of passive darkness energy when built into, say by using Final Warning. You can try it yourself but it's quite noticeable for transcendence generation and add clear in high density activities like the new battlegrounds. Cake for the worst goes to Starfire imho.
Honestly, hoil, apotheosis, star eater are the only things you use on a bond otherwise you're better with a normal exotic... Or memeing.
Like me, I like to meme assassin on every subclass because I love assassin's cowl, but to get serious, hoil is the pick, apotheosis star eater for dps, or just use a normal exotic.
I personally don't understand apotheosis love, espessially for DPS the grenades we have on prismatic on warlocks aren't good for boss damage.
@@oots4790 exactly.
Relatively new to destiny, why are there 2 exotics when you can only wear one?
@@matthews8063 Exotic Class items you can get from The Final Shape to use on Prismatic
you have a pretty bad take on these class Items tbh..... apotheos veil and swarmers. Go really hard with a strand threadling Build. I just have no idea why you would put Necrotics and synthesives in "pretty strong" Please rethink your life and delete this video
@@TWIN.HTX4 Jeezuz. Its a youtube video my man. 🤣🤣🤣
@@ITZJ1MB0 🤣🤣 I was joking. Please don't take me seriously💀🫶🏽
@@TWIN.HTX4 Caught me off guard 🤣😅