Ecoflow Delta 1300 Power Station Review
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- Skip the extension cord, use this light, 1800 Watt portable generator instead, for around the home, power outages, camping and more. Super convenient and you can even use it indoors!
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@ I have a 1800 Watt inverter generator. I paid $300 for new.
These things are just modern higher capacity versions of UPS's (Uninterruptible Power Supplies) that we've had for PCs for three decades. They used to work with lead-acid batteries (so were very heavy), but now they're being updated with Li-Ion, which makes them a lot lighter/portable.
It's a self contained inverter not a generator and way too expensive $1400 is way out of reach for most people.
I agree. you would be better off pushing a deep cycle battery and 2000 watt inverter from your local store or purchase a used generator on Kijiji.
yes 1400 is way to expensive for a bunch of capacitors that store energy.
It might be worth it because it's true sine wave.... Decent true sine inverters cost just as much as this thing. Plus it comes with a battery and charger. Most cheap inverters are square wave or modified sine and they won't run many modern electronics
Way to expensive for the regular Joe or Jane carpenter. Plus, $1400 for 1.5 hours of full constant power is unrealistic! No one would run a heater for 1.5 hours with that thing. Maybe you should have tried the circular saw cutting wood and figured out how long it would have lasted with the strain and surge of starting the saw motor every 30-45 seconds. I bet it wouldn’t have lasted half the time at most. Maybe if it lasted 8 hours on a job site with multiple users and multiple tools. Portable battery technology isn’t there yet.
They shouldn't call these things generators, they're batteries with inverters AKA a UPS which is useful but it's not a generator.
Agreed. For what it is, it looks OK. But a generator it is not.
Exactly, a battery pack with an inverter is not a generator.
Agreed; it's a big power bank
If it’s chargeable via solar then it’s a generator. It does generate electricity when you add solar panels. They have ones that aren’t solar power capable and those are just batteries. It’s like a regular generator. You need gas, oil, spark plugs for it to work. These just need panels.
@@chatomairi That's crazy talk, the panels are generating power, it's still just a battery box. They don't call the hundreds of little solar powered battery banks generators on amazon.
That would make a good sump pump backup power in case of power outage.
C W, that’s exactly what I thought it would be good for. I wonder how long it would last running a sump pump!
I’d like to see how it performs with the solar panel.
I don't know why they call it a generator when all it is, is a battery bank and inverter. It doesn't generate electricity - it just stores it and then converts it to AC. If tied to solar panels, it should last longer. I wonder if there is a solar charge controller in there ... MPPT?
Im 100% with you on that point.
Its not generating electricity, its not doing any work. Its not converting mechanical energy into electrons.
Looks like a great unit BUT would not replace a generator.
Petrol Gen you refuel in 5 minutes and keep working. This thing.... take a 2 hr lunch then back to work again after recharge.
As a professional truck driver, I have been using inverters since they first came out on the market. I was impressed with this review. You had me at the chainsaw (lol) . Light , portable , battery system is all internal and the only wire is the one for charging it.
I just bought a 3 in one charging pack . It takes 24 plus hrs to get 100 % charge. So your 1 1/2 hr charge is awesome. I like it.
Right on Jose....
Steve, I seen a guy who lives off grid with this exact generator but he had the portable solar panel that plugs into the generator. He has a You-tube channel that he broadcasts from the middle of the woods. God bless
Pretty awesome! But a wee bit rich for me. Even more so when you can run for hours on end by adding more gas to a conventional generator.
@@John-zv1hy It definitely rocks it with the cool factor!
I was drank that beer in Germany in a movie theater in the late 80's. Still enjoy one now and again. Cheers Steve!!!!!
Really cool devices but they're really backup power supplies.
Exactly. And what do you do when they've discharged? These things are _not_ a good replacement for a 3kW diesel gen that can be had for well under half the price.
"backup power supplies" you mean like a generator? :D
The problem is you had the heater aimed at your beer. What's up with that?
I have heard the Brits like warm beer, maybe Steve is trying out some ancestral culture?
$1400.00 bucks? That is insanely high priced. Much to high for the average causal user, also, overtime the batteries will weaken and within 4 to 5 years you will have a $1400.00 dollar boat anchor.. Just not practical..
..... I concur, all these products never factor in (useful) battery life, or capacity degradation.
But it must be the way forward. Can't keep pissing carbon into our finite atmosphere.
Assuming these are Lifepo4 batteries, they should not degrade much in 5 years.
@@williamkennedy6423 This one operates at only 60% after 800 charge cycles.
Yea the price is my biggest concern also. You can get a used honda 2000i generator in good shape for less then 1/2 of the cost of that battery pack- generator. I do like the solar panel plug for weekend camping trips tho .....
Most of the comments are spot on. As others have noted - Not a "generator" at all, but rather a battery 'power bank'. Most likely it has Lithium batteries inside (lightweight and high power density) - but the sort of rapid charging you demonstrated might not bode well for longevity. And as we all know by now LI bats have a nasty tendency to burst into intense flames when they go 'bad' - which rapid charging might increase the probability of. Much would depend on the electronic controller used in the product - which undoubtedly involves a microprocessor, firmware and code. And of course, if the microprocessor goes out, you're SOL and your $1400 unit is 'bricked'.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not one of these guys that gets all carried away over OH&S issues, but it's easy to forget that these things put out a very dangerous AC mains type voltage. Which is why I think the bar of that electric chainsaw was way to close for comfort in regards to the power lead from the EcoFlow Delta unit, starting at 5:40 in the video. Good on you Steve. Love your channel.
Oh yeah, seeing Steve-o *almost* snag the electric cord with the chainsaw bar at 5:50 made me cringe. And the circular saw was too close for comfort as well.
Still, fun to watch.
That is not a generator. That is simply a battery power supply. It doesn't generate electricity therefore not a generator.
Actually, you can't generate energy. You can only transform/convert it. Whether it's the chemical reaction from burning fuel or the chemical reaction of lithium ion your just converting an energy source into household electricity.
That's nice equipment. But 1300 dollars for 1800 watts, I'll stick with my noisy 5kw gas generator that I paid 100 dollars for.
It’s a battery- that’s all. Not a generator
Batteries are DC. Actually, it is an inverter with a self-contained battery.
It's just a big UPS really, inverter/charger and battery all in one. And you could always bring a gas generator to charge it up when it dies ;)
@@eosjoe565 and charger.
Fathers Day Sale at Lowes $999.00 a good deal and a great review by you
Love your channel Steve, but as everyone else mentions, this product is a rechargeable battery. It is efficient. I'll check your links to the specs. Happy to see your influence grows.
Thanks for the vid Steve. I live in a rural area in British Columbia Canada and we have a generator for repairs on the ranch but something like this would solve the pain of loading the gen in the truck or utv for a quick repair or maybe an overnighter at the lake.Like anything prices always drop. Keep the vids coming.
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Hey Steve I picked up an Oregon 16 inch corded saw with self sharpener, works pretty good! I’m enjoying electric machines as the technology comes around.
Looks fine. $1400 is okay. Very good.
Thank you for sharing your wisdom with us!!!
Love your channel and learning heaps. Thanks! You probably already know but all it really does is rectify the mains and store the power as DC (probably 18650s). A boost converter ups the voltage to mains level and then it just switches the polarity going out at 60Hz. Mosfets switch the battery polarity 60 times a second and then it makes it into a pretty sine wave. They are pretty good. Lithium cells are only good for about 500 cycles though. A 240 Watt hour powered my TV and Firestick for just over and hour. Don't go below 20% charge or it can damage the cells.Storing lithium cells at above 40-60% long term doesnt do them any good either - the internal resistance goes up because tendrils form internally and coat the anode and cathode in the cells and limit conductivity. I think an engine based generator would be more dependable / repairable in a SHTF situation.
Great bit of kit, I would say that it said 100% before it shut off charging was when it went into balance mode 👍👍👍
Steve, you are my 'go to fun' after work.
Great content. Great beers too!
Wow, thanks!
Hey Steve. Love your videos. Very informative and have helped me solve issues I thought were beyond repair.
Cool, thanks
Never heard about this thing until I heard about it from Steve.
Keeping it straight is all i want, you do it.
Excellent demonstration. Very clear speech and visual demo. Now if I can only lift it.
Another negative I saw right away was that you need a three-prong adapter to use power tools. Otherwise it would come in handy for an overnight camp sight, fishing, even tailgating.
Three prong does work! Little hole there for the ground peg that might be hard to see....
@@StevesSmallEngineSaloon Well, my bad. lol. I just couldn't see it I guess. Still a nice little unit.
I’d say if you had a 1500 watt draw for 1hr 26mins before the battery went dead that’s pretty impressive- and the saw test was the kicker. It couldn’t start the compressor but like you said even a gas powered generator couldn’t do it. The price is a bit steep but you have to figure in no fuel/oil and maintenance costs that go with a gas generator. I’d definitely give strong consideration to buying one. Very good review, thanks.
Right on Cory....
I calculated the capacity (using the heater test numbers) as 2150 watt hours. Seems really good - but then I wondered if the heating element was on the entire time. That would greatly affect the watt hour figure (downwards). The manufacturer claims 1260 watt hours
@@michaelwarren2391 exactly, did the math in my head and checked their website, it should have run half as long as it did. either they sent a 2x battery version, the heater thermostat wasn't set right, or Steve was running it at a 750 watt setting.
DeWalt makes one also 1800 W. I like it because I already have many DeWalt batteries.Great for running the fan on the pellet stove in power outage and no noise. (Power inverter)
Didn’t know dewalt made one. Thanks for info
Man I really like your channel Steve. You're definitely my kind of guy. Cheers!
I appreciate that!
A matter of semantics. You can technically and legally call it a generator, but It is somewhat deceiving to do so. However, it is a clever marketing technique that just worked here. This unit is an interesting version of a common device and it was informative to see how this technology is moving along. Thanks for the good video Steve!
Pretty sweet you have companies sending you stuff for free Steve. That's the best! I think most of us gear heads like fixing stuff for cheap though. I'm off to find another discounted Honda someone can't get started.
Steve. I have been watching a lot of your videos and love the content. I have to reach out on this one. The outlets on the side don’t have grounds and therefore you can’t put a three prong plug in it. That is a huge deal and I know you saw that. Please follow up on that. Thanks!
Three prong does work! Little hole there for the ground peg that might be hard to see....
Another great video as always. Take care Steve!
Thanks, you too!
It looks like a good product. It would also make a good UPS for something like a computer or a refrigerator in an area of unreliable power. Leave the fridge plugged into the generator and leave the generator plugged into the AC supply.
is it pure sin wave?
There are a few of these inverter power systems coming out now including one from EGO. It looks a great system though for occasionally needing outdoor power.
Overall I would say that generator is a win win. That would be great in many situations. It would be great for camping and emergency situations. Pretty powerful for a small unit. Thanks for being honest Steve, I wouldn't expect anything else coming from you. Thanks for the video buddy.
Right on Elmer...
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Wow, thanks!
Great video Steve. I love the generator no noise but its too pricey for my book. thanks for the review.
Great review. Thanks for keeping it real.
Always!
That is a great product I live off grid any time I need more power than my Soler system puts out I have to start my generator this thing would be awesome don't get me wrong I love my gas engines but this thing is convenient for quick use
Right on Eric...
Steve i think its a good buy the charge time is great and it seemed to work pretty good si i give it a thumbs up for thanks for the reviews and take care keep safe....
Thanks 👍
Love it would do all I need for sure, great review
Love it but--- price to high
Honda 2200 is 1000.00
Light and runs 14 hours on a tank of fuel
kool! thanks for info!...good to know!
Any time!
I think it's a pretty good little generator ,were people need power, but the the noise if your using the power wise it would do you for the week end ,charging your laptop,phone ,and a couple of light ,I think there a demand for this beautiful Generator ,I would love to test one for them LOL .thanks Steve were 3/4 in the Video and you didn't mention the BEER LOL ..
Right on
Hi Steve: I have a good suggestion on a Beer for you, it's called Rohrbach, from Rohrbach brewing company in Upstate NY. They make an awesome Scotch Ale and it is a Porter. If you like Guinness you'll fall in love with Rohrbach's Just a suggestion my friend. However it's only good for easy light projects as it's 9% alcohol and they only come in 16 Oz. cans or 72 Oz. glass Growlers. You can taste light hints of black coffee, chocolate and on the finish a light scotch flavor. I've been all over the world and in my opinion it's one the better stouts I have had.
Right on
Not worth the price, and really only useable for family camping
Not really for family camping, it's more for the job/construction site where you need power to run a corded tool but don't have electric in the work area and don't want to run an extension cord all the way to the gas generator outside. In that context, it has benefit that may be worth the price and a buyer that could afford it. The family camping version will be down the road after the cost comes down.
Thanks for the review im considering buying one we are having a lot of power outages! Is it worth it?
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Wish you told us how many cuts you could get out of it with the chainsaw and/or rips of plywood using the circular saw.
Well it was interesting seeing different devices run. There is a indicator display on it. Would have been interesting seeing how many watts each device used and how long it said it would run the device and if it turned out to be true.
Looks like a damn good back up gen for a weekend camping trip especially with the ability to solar charge it
@Ed MacLane meaning when you need electric during the night or when like myself when i get up at 3 am .
Great review Steve thank you 1399 is too rich for my blood
Great fun review 👍
Thank you 🤗
No carbon monoxide emission so you can use it indoors. No noise, so a campground with “ no generators after x: PM “ has no problems. Pricey, yes, but convenient for short term use.
Right on
how much power did it consume while doing the 0...100 percent re-charge?
So, you need 'house power' and the best usage/recharge ratio is slightly less than 50 percent.
how many recharge cycles is it good for?
how long does it hold its' charge when not in use?
what is its' percent efficiency between charging power and usage power
To be fair most lithium-ion battery tech is over 95% charge-discharge efficient so you get back almost all the energy you put in. Most good inverters are also over 95% so I would be very surprised if the whole thing was worse than 80% efficient. However, calling it a generator is a huge stretch. It is a backup power supply. Those were available for ages for anyone who doesn't want to put together some batteries an inverter and a charger. There is one good thing about this device however, most 1800w inverters will trip the breaker if you attach a 1500w motor because motors take many times their rated load in the first second they are started. This device seems to handle this fine.
I think it would be nice for camping it doesn't make any noise.
Right on
Nice Vid, l got the natures generator monster stack. But l had to get this little one with a 160 watt panel!!! Wise, l do believe!!!
Hi Steve. As good as that device may be, it is only a glorified UPS (uninterrupted power supply) which have been around nearly as long as computers have. Cheers.
So some questions that I did not see immediately answered on their website. First, how long are the batteries expected to last? How many cycles? And second, once the batteries have reached end of life are they user replaceable? Or do you need to recycle the entire unit and buy another one? Lastly, I think they should have an extended runtime battery add-on.
So how long will it run a fridge and can you buy spare battery to switch them back and forth so you can charge them good stuff though for an apartment
I'll buy one of these and when it goes dead, I'll charge it with my honda eu2000i, lol
Right on, charge it with the generator during the day and run your fridge/freezer all night while sleeping. Wonder how long it will run a small fridge/freezer?
3:21 I really hope you didn't heat up that beer for an hour and a half. 🤣
Ahh I don't care what it is, I have my generator, and another cold one in my hand, I'm good, thanks Steve, great video !!
Hi Steve Your vids have helped me a lot. Question i have FR500 Honda rear tine tiller. Having trouble finding parts Muffler, choke puller,...Do you know where i can order parts from. Also the oil dip stick is one than ive never seen before just a tappered stick. Do i fill until oil is at bottom of stick while its screwed in, or what. 10W-30 correct? and what about other fluids?
Steve, I noticed on the overload warning it said "Overload" and 50HZ not 60. Did they send you the 50Hz model or something? Not that it would change the outcome of starting the compressor but hey who knows?
Another quality video!!!
Thanks again!
Have a question. Is it a good idea to use super unleaded gasoline on push mower or riding mowers.
Just went to the link for the price.$1,700!! Price went up. Yeah that's a lot for what you get. Most can't do that for this size back up.
I have a question. I have an old Briggs and Stratton tiller. When I changed the oil it was a very obvious metallic dark grey. It runs well. Is this normal for an older small engine?
Wasn’t sure if you were going to mention the beer. Ha!
Question about a Trimmer. Have a cub cadet cc 212, I just did a complete carb clean on it, new spark plug, new fuel and she won't start. any ideas?
Very impressive 👍👏👏
Thank you! Cheers!
Litium ion baterry UPS , reasonable priced for power performance
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Can this run 'through' power, if so it could be used as a UPS system in your house. Hooking your computer up too so it never losses power, with out warning.
Yup....a little too expensive...The charge time is pretty damn good though. Another awesome video...Thanks
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Does it contain a transformer to step the current up?
Czechvar is the original Budweiser, from Budweis, Bohemia. They cannot use the Budweiser name in the USA for some trademark issues.
Smart review
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Not to quibble but that is not a generator. Basically a battery backup. Still thanks for the content Steve!
It needs more 110 outlets like the Jackery 1000.
Man that looks like just what I need to hook up to my rabbit hutch and duck Hutch for power using the solar panels
Cool idea...
I’d be interested in seeing how long it takes to get charged from a solar setup at 100 watts.
Steve that is the furthest thing from a generator it's simply a uninterrupted power supply. That might be something that I would maybe hook up to my computer maybe but let's face it if you have a power outage at your house and it's going to last for a couple of days and you need your refrigerator to stay cool to your deep freeze and maybe even watch some TV it would fall very very short that's why I have a I think it's like a 8555 generator. Of course it uses gasoline and I mentioned the previous video I only put real gas in it. I think I'd rate that thing about two beers. It maybe something cool to carry down beside the lake while you're fishing at night so you could put on some music maybe and have an LED light so you can watch your reels then be able to take fish off your hook or put bait on. But I don't think I would spend $1,400 for one to do that. I think I continue doing like I do and run a couple of extension cords down to the side of the lake. I guess it's nice being within 70 ft of the water! Not much of a like about 12 acres but it holds some pretty good catfish, bass and bream. Keep up the good work dude I thank you for your videos until you're better paid!
How long did it last with your fridge
Not for me Steve , I know it's eco friendly probably. But I'll stick too my Generac 5500 . I'm old school ....and definitely not for that price either ......I'd give it a four or five beer rating ...🤣😂
Marshall Border You have to put gas in your Generac when it quits running, this thing you just plug into any nearby tree.
@@Shootingstarcomics +1 Sombrero! cracked me up
@@Shootingstarcomics when the battery goes dead and there's still no electricity, you'll have to recharge it with a generator.
@@Shootingstarcomics Or a solar panel
BIG TESTS ... I would be curious to see if it would be possible to power a 120 volt mig welder and if so how long and up to what amperage it could withstand.
Other things; the life time (in years) of this generator to give 100% power compared to a gasoline generator. Everyone knows that batteries lose their capacity over time. (loaded and unloaded).
Thank you for this test Steve
It needs a drink holder, for use while you wait on the recharge
Can you charge it while using it ??
I don't understand how it can be called a generator! It's a battery pack, and as a large capacity portable battery pack it seem pretty cool for what it is. But When the power goes out, I plug in the generator to the house, put fuel in it, and run the generator until power comes back on.
This is just a pretty cool battery pack. Just an honest assessment of what it is..
Sean
where does one attach booster cables?
You have a carbon based battery there. Not a generator.