What Happens If You Shoot Down a Drone?
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- Are you allowed to disable a drone that is flying where you don't want it to? This video discusses the consequences of doing so, and educates on a few facts about the safety of drones. Remote ID is going to lead to more altercations. Know the facts before you go disturbing a drone pilot.
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If a drone passes by a property that is one thing. But if a drone flies into your property and begins maneuvering around to view your private domain then it is getting impaled with bird shot.
No kidding, calling the police won’t work. Um officer so I saw a drone looking through my window and it went away
that's just going to get you a fine or even a felony, did you not watch the video?
No Trespassing means NO TRESPASSING.
@@kevinmckinzie yup, but hope you got deep pockets cuz youre gonna be getting alot of fines in the future
Only if they find the bodies.
I think it's not the fear of the drone it's a privacy matter for many
Yep. Ill shoot one down in a heartbeat !
@@kilozulu9990 over my backyard is a privacy issue
@@glenngrant7778 People hate drones just to bitch and use the excuse "your drone is flying over my property im a whiney bitch"
@@glenngrant7778 well yea obviously lol
Fly where you want
Imagine seriously calling the police and expecting them to do anything for a drone when they can’t even arrive to your house for a home invasion in less than ten minutes
They wait for the threat to pass
Or imagine the police NOT charging you for defending your privacy. If I sneak a camera into your private space, you can crush it. Not be criminally charged.
I dont believe the local police can enforce these laws.
10 minutes were do you live? I'm in NY they don't arrive at all. If they do they just let the criminal go so they can murder and rape again
I had a drone hover over my yard I gave it the middle finger and it left ....not a fan of them in Residential arias ....you can't fly an aircraft low over a Residential zone...
I believe your enthusiasm for drones blinds you to the fact that a lot of people are aware of how weirdos can use this technology to target them or their children. I would give drone users some advice. Always respect your neighbors and if possible expose them to your hobby. Don’t be snarky or you’ll end up causing people to demand more restrictive laws in your state or region.
that's not an issue with the drones or flying drones, that's an issue of uneducated people using them. the problem is not the drones.
If it lingers is one thing . If it flys over then you’re paranoid and need help.
Solid advice.
If drone flying at low attitudes over someone else property ,there probably up to nothing good.
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if your flying a rainbow flag behind your drone it will most definitly be disabled
I am all for people enjoying their favorite recreational activity but...... If I own 20 acres, completely private and my wife wants to tan topless at our swimming pool in the privacy of our property, what gives anyone the right to fly over and invade our favorite recreational activity? Who doesn't value their privacy at home and what gives anyone the right to invade it?
If i concede the 'right' to fly drones, what gives them the right to 'video' from such a platform. Even the $300 and under drones have incredible cameras. Thoughts please..
I agree with you.
Lol…where I live, there’d be 20 guns trained on it in seconds
@@michaelklein3112 They are in public airspace and they have just as much right to video from public airspace as I would have if I point a camera out the window of a passenger plane and take video footage or if I stand on a public sidewalk and shoot video footage. Basically anything that can be seen from a public space can be filmed. It's called the first amendment. Also, just because someone is filming from a drone doesn't automatically mean they are spying on you. At the same time if you suspect someone is deliberately harassing you with their drone, such as constantly hovering over your property, trying to peek into your windows, etc. there are legal actions you can take to correct the situation.
In that case any airplane or helicopter that passes overhead is also "invading your privacy". What gives them the right is the United States Constitution and the notion of "public airspace".
Thanks for the video. I have a drone, never ran it, but I did get my license and am prepared. A fellow visited us while we were camping in Arizona and did a drone video on Christmas of 2018. He posted it, and I go to it regularly. Why? Well he has my wonderful wife of 51 years and I waving at the drone as he zooms down and back up. I lost my wife to cancer in 2020 and I miss her more then life itself, I have been healing myself, but now find myself with cancer, just had a kidney removed because of that, but when I really miss her I go to that site and she waves at me with such joy on her face, it helps. . .
Sorry to hear that bro 😔.My mom has stage 4 cancer and she is someone that I never ever thought would catch something like cancer she never smokes,never drank,never did drugs,and I know those things don't lead to cancer but she lives a clean life and still she caught cancer and I now understand just how important it is to appreciate the people in your life cuz when their gone their really gone and your entire world is flipped upside down and it hurts.....a lot.Hope you have a great rest of your day buddy and hope things get a little better for you with time.
@@khanhknapp For what it's worth: keto and intermittent fasting helps with an awful lot of physical problems.
seriously get into fasting as after day 3 your body starts discarding damaged cell tissue first like tumors, cancers, etc. It kicks into autophagy.
Wow bro sorry to hear that I hope all is well
@@khanhknapp a third of us will die of cancer. Half will get cancer.
Something similar happened to me once. In my conversation with the individual what I said was “If I was walking around the construction site and shooting photos with my iPhone would you have said anything to me?” He said that it wasn’t the same thing and then called the police. When the police showed up and I presented my Part 107 card they asked the accuser to not waste their time and to know the rules before approaching a drone pilot.
The act of interrupting a sUAS operator while in flight can also result in a fine…
Sweet!!!
@@AxisImagery I had a guy walk up to me and a friend with a loaded crossbow. He was fishing with it and thought we were filming him. He asked me if I was filming him, and I told him no, because I charge for my services and don't film anyone for free. LOL. Okay, maybe that wasn't the smartest thing to say. But I hate getting interupted when I am flying.
@@MYPROJECTS101. that’s the best response I have ever heard. Hahaha. Made him feel worthless and unimportant I bet.
@@MYPROJECTS101. that WAS Smart thing to say mate 👍
Hi Brother, As an Army Veteran, I agree with your observations and would add that for some veterans, especially those with PTSD, a drone is a emotional trigger. This trigger can initiate as survival protocol. Just adding another perspective to your great posts. yes, I am a subscriber of your channel! Great work!
I've been harassed by a drone pilot before. I was looking at a home to buy and a neighbor made sure to make himself a nuisance with his drone. He was flying about 30 ft above the backyard and watching us as we looked at the house. We left quickly and crossed that house off our list. If we had purchased that home and that behavior continued, there would have been problems.
Yes, there are assholes out there, just like there are assholes everywhere.
You cannot legally fly over people unless you are either a licensed pilot under Part 107 or your drone weighs less than 0.55 lbs and has no exposed rotors. So, likely the neighbor was breaking the law.
Sounds like that neighbor didn't want the house to sell. Maybe an ongoing fued with the moving neighbor. That definitely warranted a call to faa or whatever agency deals with these types of incidents.
@@johnclifford1911 Einstein
@@johnclifford1911 Einstein
I value my privacy! Any camera buzzing over my property is a concern...
I've flown model aircraft for 50 years! Rule number one is: never fly over people or others property! idiots with "drones" brake the basic rules all the time! It is rude beyond words.
Your property line does not extend 200' above your house!
@@turkey0165 When it comes to spying drones it does! If you don’t believe it, hide and watch!
Keep them 200 feet over. Don't disturb people or invade their privacy. Also drones could possibly go down and harm someone. Be respectful. You wouldn't want me to constantly disturb you or your family.
@@barbrice721 boo hoo barbi here lol
@@turkey0165 That’s both intellectually and LEGALLY wrong! At least in the United States.
We live in a Rural area, and yes ,quite frankly we do question EVERY car that drives pass our house.
Wow, how sad and paranoid.
@@2Bluzin .I’m guessing he doesn’t get a lot of sleep .
@@renenadeau323 I live on 500 hectares and see maybe 1 car a week, you can bet your pants I want to know what theyre doing on my property!
@@mysty0 Does that road belong to you.?
@@renenadeau323 sure does
I own a drone, but if someone flies over my ranch and appears to be spying on me, he will loose his drone. Period
If drone flying at low attitudes over someone else property ,there probably up to nothing good.
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@@user-fw6ci7pt7t maybe, but privacy is privacy, some people buy property to be isolated from other people and that’s their business. It’s kinda like you taking your pretty girlfriend out and a guy is there obviously ogling her, most people take offense and there are those that will punch you for it and that’s out in public.
Well, I don't know where you live, but I advise you to check the rules of your state. In doing so, I found out that it's illegal in Texas to fly a drone over private property for the purpose of surveillance. So you may be able to get the pilot fined or prosecuted.
It all depends on state laws. Generally, if someone is flying a drone, they are passing through and flying between 100 ft. To 400 ft. in the air. If you have ever seen a recording from a drone that high up, you would know that everything looks like an ant. Now, if the drone is 50 ft. or less from the ground and hoovering, then chances are it's for not so good purposes. Also, keep in mind that the airspace above a property is🎉 not owned by the property owner. Most drone operators are not going to follow streets as if it were a car. They will pick the shortest distance between point A to Point B but do not have bad intentions in mind. If you ever looked at real estate online, you will see they have aerial footage, and the FAA has granted permission for that flight and recording.
@user-uw2xu4cc2o this is very true.
When I first got into drones in 2018, I bought a hexacopter with retractable landing gear. I would "racetrack" it above my property while learning the controls. One day I lost sight of the damn thing and pointed the camera straight down so I could figure out where it was. My neighbor across the street was outside with the rear hatch open on her escalade, that detail helped me figure out where it was over her property. She noticed me studying the screen on the controller and then looking above her place and she got visibly nervous. I apologized to her and told her I wasn't looking at her property until I lost sight of the drone, she said that she didn't care that I was looking at her roof, she just didn't want the thing to fall out of the sky and crash into her car.🤣
A few tips: I try to follow the roads when flying over neighborhoods, most people don't care when the drone is flying over a "common area" vs their own pool or back yard
-If you want to hover, do it over parking lots, farm lands, malls, etc. Don't hover over yards
-A 100 feet elevation is my minimum
Word!!!
This situation - people even considering shooting at drones - is another good reason why guns should be taken away from the general population.
Yes, I know it will NEVER happen.
@@oldrrocr if your flying little surveillance devices over peoples properties you should be allowed to own a drone.
@@oldrrocrGod I hope your trolling and not actually this daft.
@@asamcdaniel5167 Hard to tell if he/she is a troll. Anti-gun people are usually at least that daft!
I’m a beginner drone pilot and when I’m in a recreational area or a most visiting tourist site in the rainforest I used to ask them if don’t bothered them to fly my drone. 100% times people appreciate my iniciative and even posed for the drone.
I ask if I can fly my 'model aircraft'. The word drone has such a negative attachment.
It is the nose very annoying and something above your head not nice. We got enough from the government surveillance and the traffic out there vehicles 🚗
Looks like there will be some interesting court cases testing the conflict between navigation vs privacy/personal protection rights. The federal government states that in non-congested areas, the area above 500 feet is navigable airspace. If someone shot down a surveillance (camera enabled) drone flying over their property, at less than 250 feet altitude, trespassing and personal protection (anti-stalking, unauthorized surveillance, privacy) rights could be in conflict with a drone owner's navigation rights.
At trial, it seems fairly likely that a jury would side with a property owner's privacy concerns over the rights of a drone owner to fly over anyone's property, with a camera, and without the property owner's permission.
In our society - as of 2023 - a prosecutors chance of winning a case "drone pilot" vs "property owner" is very unlikely. Also, I own a portion of the property above the ground - you can't crash into my radio tower without being liable for damages.
@@davidyanceyjrto this point, recently a family member had a drone shot down at work by a land owner who then also preceded to shoot at the pilot.
The land owner is currently being federally prosecuted just for shooting down the drone and will face prison time. Since it’s federal it’s a felony so they’re also losing their guns.
They’re also being separately charged for the attempted murder on top of all of that.
Doubt it! How will these ignorant landowner scientifically proved the drone flying height? You want something remain private, use your fu*king brain to keep it private
@@JollyGiant19 nonsense.
No. Every time someone has tried to claim privacy in court they lose. 100% of the time.
I live in a rural area and if there is a drone over my home, it will come down.
Passing through, okay, but hover long enough for me to get my shotgun...
Better get Soap On A Rope!!😊
Lol and you'll be paying for a replacement
@@drewishgaminginc.3942 Nah, in a rural area, the drone operator will simply have to beat a fast retreat.
@@drewishgaminginc.3942 love to see u enforce that lol what a joke
I live in a Rural State and I'm sure that many people would shoot my drone down if I flew it close to their property, so I will have to be careful about where I fly if I decide to order one.
Yep
Just strap a couple mercury vials under the drone so if they shoot it down it contaminates their land
Those are the EXACT people who need to be banned for life from touching guns. These are the folks who think its ok to shoot at people in cars who simply took a wrong turn or are just turning their car around.
You handled the hospital situation very well. No need to escalate especially when someone is blowing smoke.
The NY in would have said "go for it"
Also known as wimping out.
Privacy is important to people, as it should be. If I'm on my own property, I shouldn't have to be concerned about someone flying a drone nearby, who may or may not be filming me or my family.
Doesn't mean you can do anything about it! :P
Article (a)(1) said the United States Government has exclusive sovereignty of airspace above your house. And it’s not you, the private landowner
Probably lives in a city with 400 neighbors.... but concerned about some 14 yo having fun
As an amateur drone pilot and human being who values my privacy and others I 100% understand where your coming from BUT you don't own the airspace above your home, also while it is legal for a drone plot to fly over your property it is also illegal for them to actively spy on you or anyone else on your property. Know your rights and their rights and we can all get along.
I suppose you have to follow them home with your own drone then
If drone flying at low attitudes over someone else property ,there probably up to nothing good.
Bollocks, I don't give a shit about what you are doing, if I stray over your property, it will not be with any intent, paranoia is a terrible affliction. Why would I have the slightest interest in you? Are you famous, not that I would be interested if you were. 99% of the time, i fly in remote places, where the photographs are actually worth taking.
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Phil L.
While you don’t have your part 107, a great idea is to do your TRUST exam from the faa, it’s a great way to get started with flying bigger drones because then as long as you get your drone registration, it authorizes you to fly drones over the ultralight weight threshold so then you can fly big drones like the Phantom and Autels and whatnot. Also if you do that then I recommend getting an account with FAA dronezone, it’s a great resource for all drone pilots.
This world is getting more and more crazy because of this technology "progress". Now we not only have traffics on the roads , but in the air. LACK OF PRIVACY is already a BIG INCONVENIENCE. Cameras everywhere- INSANE.
"ammo falling"
tell me you've never bird hunted without telling me you've never bird hunted
I live on 20 acres that boarders a state park in a very rural location. State park policy is “no drones” and has signs that state such. Yet still they buzz over and come within a stones throw of me and my family. I tried all the legit channels to no avail. I’m now going to turn to #7 bird shot. Or maybe rubber shot. I’m not a crotchety person, just fed up.
@ryane.7894 It's illegal to shoot down a drone even if it's below the minimum of 500′-0 airspace restrictions above rural areas and structures or 1,000-0 above densely populated areas
If they are only a stones throw away and bothering you. I'd say I'd be pissed, but people like me fly higher up 250 feet and just like to look at stuff. It's interesting, but I get you.
Fed up? hahahah Get a life...
if I am sitting no a jury about someone shot down a drone I am voting not guilty no matter who owns the drone.
Your gonna get cooked bro💀
If drone flying at low attitudes over someone else property ,there probably up to nothing good.
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Doesn't matter if the drone operator is someone just doing his job? Like perhaps powerlines inspections or whatnot?
Keep in mind that in United States v. Causby the Supreme Court established private property air rights at somewhere between 83 and 500 feet. In a new case, Boggs v. Merideth, a state court affirmed the private property right of the landowner. That is being appealed through the federal court system but for now it would seem that Cuasby sets the standard for air rights despite what the FAA says.
So I want to see the Survey of the Land Borders. Most have NO clue.
Flying over is one thing. Hanging out and clearly getting into shit you shouldn’t be in another
@@bidenisasnake9932 I have mine framed.
Even with this ruling air rights are still a grey area. In fact "somewhere between 83-500 feet is grey in and over itself. For example even well before this ruling railroads often sold their "air rights" so that developers could build structures (including very tall buildings) over their tracks. However, even it if we say "up to 500 feet" it doesn't automatically mean every aircraft passing by below 500 feet is guilty of trespassing. Originally property owners were said to own the "land they live on all the way down to hell and all the way up to heaven". Then at the turn of the century air travel (i.e. dirigibles, airplanes, etc.) became a thing and new criteria had to be set.
I do have a solution though. Just sell the air rights over private property to a developer to build a huge skyscraper. Then nothing can fly over the property at least up to the height of the skyscraper and then some.
@@WitchidWitchid If a drone is hovering over someone’s private property long enough to be shot down then it deserves to be shot to shit.
I live in an area that is very rural. If I was to place a call to the sheriffat the quickest it would take around fifteen to thirty minutes, dependingon the day and time. In our state if you cross over a posted borderline in a vehicle, on foot, or other conveyance, the land owner can take means to detain till law enforcement arrives. I would consider the downing of a drone as my only means of detainment. There truly are laws that have to be made to address the use of drowns over private properties. Especially since I have never had a jet, prop driven or other flying machines taking photographs or video low enough to identify people who are out and about or to be able film through the windows of houses. A drone is able to do that. I have sited drones recording through my windows twice. The second time it was shot down with a shotgun. If one shows up again the same result will occur. Placed an add in the paper offering to return the drone to the owner if they would come to claim it or give a viable address for its return. Never did get a reply.
I live in a remote area off grid. Not too long ago I was a victim of an attempted abduction for the purpose of extortion. I was lured away by someone I knew to someone's home under false pretense. They thought that I would be intimidated by their threats and that I would do whatever they wanted, they badly underestimated what I would do. I won't go into detail but I had no problem getting out of that situation and 3 people had to go to the ER that night with serious injuries and I was not one of them. Not long before that happened, I had a drone, fully camo in color, flying around my yard. If I ever see another one. It will be shot down. I will not be calling the police.I don't go to the bathroom without my shotgun. If I'm watching TV and I go to the fridge for a cold drink, my shotgun comes with me. If I am home my gun is loaded within 5 feet from me. If you don't like the what some people think of drones, I suggest that you stay away from private property in remote areas !!!
You need to set that bowl down for a bit man.
@@rossclarke8028 actually 🎯 🤣
So, exactly how deep into the local meth culture are you?
@@billycarr7446 actually they are crack heads and the guy who lured me out is deep in debt with some nasty people. Two of which are no longer any more problems to society !!!
As one who has made his living in the aviation field for most of my life I would like to address the aircraft strike topic. Yes it is true that the amount of drone strikes by aircraft at this time is basically almost zero, with the amount of people entering the drone flying hobby is steadily increasing, and will become an increased risk. I personally have seen birds as small as a sparrow take out a jet engine. Drones no matter how small are more substantial than tiny birds. I know that things ingested into engines are not always catastrophic, I have also seen larger birds, and in one instance a large flashlight ingested into an engine without any apparent damage, but anything going through an engine may cause catastrophic failure. As far as personal privacy is concerned, if you have to fly a drone over personal property, I would suggest that you do it at an altitude high enough that it does not cause concern. If you see a drone flying low and slow over your property, you can not help but think that somebody is spying on you.
I was flying my Phantom 4 pro, you can hear that thing a mile away, around my neighborhood getting aerial video and shots of the general area. B roll. Anyway, my neighbor lady came out, pretty upset, asking if I can see through her windows and in her house. She seemed fit to be tied. I told her that would be pretty impossible unless I was hovering right in front of her window and the lighting was just right. She really didn't believe me so I showed her the video footage. She completely changed her tune. She was so impressed with the imagery and realized nothing can be seen inside windows. She's a drone fan now.
That’s cool!
Usually I do the same thing when people seem to have questions/concerns. I let them see what I can see. Some think the normal drone can be flying a 100 feet in the air and get crispy clear photos of someone sunbathing, or even more out there, like you said seeing inside a window. They don't understand that unless the drone is fairly close, people end up being extremely pixelated.
But you show her that she wasn't in the picture! Great move on any body part. If She was in front of her windows, or her topless! She should take you to court. Peeping Tom or Paparazzi. But like you, sometimes I take pictures of places to hunt, go camping or fishing. I flew high to get the most landscapes, rivers, lakes, and old abandoned bridges or trains left rotting in the woods! I like filming RC planes, too. Dangerous!
Nice. Most people, somehow, don't seem to realize that, during a sunlit DAY, no one can see inside their windows. They are looking at a mirror. Of themselves. If anything. 2nd-ly, get some damn curtains if it's a concern of yours.
That's what my plan is also, just say why don't we roll that beautiful bean footage and see if yours or anyone else's privacy was abused. You know everything is right here and you can see on my iPad Pro right here and now. Teaching someone like that goes way further than insulting them as hard as it might be👍
I am a pilot and have nothing against drones. They have a lot of really good uses, some yet to even be discovered. However, I had a very close call with one. I was flying down the Hudson corridor, over the river, west side, at 1000 feet AGL. There are some cliffs nearby so I was closer to those, maybe 550-600 feet. I saw what I thought was a bird but as I passed by it, just several feet from my wing, I saw that it was a good sized black drone, perhaps 2 feet long. I did report it to ATC as a near miss. I can't see how that drone was operating legally as I reviewed flight data and confirmed altitudes. the drone was at least 500 feet horizontally from the cliffs and exactly 1000 feet over the water in a very busy area for GA aircraft. This is very dangerous. Such activity, especially if it results in a midair, will cause perhaps permanent increased restrictions on all drone operators. Another story: the friend I was flying with flies across the country out of Palo Alto. KPAO is right next to a wildlife sanctuary and my friend nearly hit a drone on short final. After he landed he went over to the sanctuary and the drone operator was still there flying right around the airport. He had just gotten the drone and had no idea he couldn't fly wherever he wanted. The local PD educated him and chased him off. Personally, if a drone ends up landing on my property I will feel bad for it and bring it far out into the woods and release it back to nature, like I might do to any injured bird.
If a drone out-of-batteried on my fields I would probably just put a new battery in it then put it back lol
Anybody at 1,000' AGL not within 400' of a STRUCTURE would probably be out of line for several reasons. Unless the drone was quite large, the chances are good that they were flying it beyond visual line of sight as well. The size you described would exclude an awful lot of drones.
If KPAO is in Class D airspace, that drone pilot either had authorization from ATC to be there, or was in violation of the airspace. Based on your report, it seems clear he was clueless about airspace. That makes me doubt he was Part 107 certified. If all that happened was that the local PD ran him off, he got off lucky. The FAA could have gone after him.
Those two pilots were almost certainly way out of line, and reflect badly on the rest of us. I'm Part 61 and 107 and completely appreciate your position on the matter.
While you say you see nothing wrong with them, yet have had a Near Miss, yourself, and know of others, it is only a matter of time, when one does take down an aircraft. Who knows it may have already occurred, and was either missed in the Investigation, or merely covered up. You think for a second, a drone pilot would ever admit to destroying an aircraft, or killing folks? NEVER!
@Loïc LASCURETTES Please re-read his comment. He's not claiming to be a drone pilot. He's an airplane pilot who was reporting a close contact with a drone.
@Loïc LASCURETTES I have no interest in being a professional. I'd rather be called rather than a professioanl any day: ua-cam.com/video/sgGRfJdv15o/v-deo.html
Actually I do question vehicles driving by my house. I'm 5 miles off the highway on private roads. And I own the road thru my property. What's needed on both sides of the fence is mutual respect, I respectfully askif they're looking for somebody first, if they pop off with an attitude I let them know they are trespassing on my property, tell them to leave. It's their choice how the interaction goes, I only ramp up the escalation to match their arrogance or stupidity.
Ray, well said man, same here
@@SimonWoodburyForget 500 ft is easy to shoot down 🤣
@@SimonWoodburyForget You're as bright as a burned out light bulb, that would be impossible. 🤣
@@SimonWoodburyForget I'm not here to educate the uneducable. Besides I already saw the comment you deleted being disrespectful to me. So now, go away with your accusations.
@@SimonWoodburyForget You insulted first, so go away with your holier than thou attitude. And no I expect nothing but ignorance from random people like you. 🤣
They turn to confetti flying over my house.
I will be the one that ruins your day.........
Bro really thinks that law applies to his oversize electromechanical mosquitoes 🤣🤣🤣
Hick alert
If you value your drone as much as most people value their privacy you should be considerate of that and you won't have to worry about someone shooting it.
Amen...
Theyre gonna get charged by the FAA and the drone user will sue. Good luck on shooting that drone down 👍🏻
@@scpanzor Hmm, that’s pretty optimistic considering that billions of dollars in property damage were done in 2020 and hardly anyone has been prosecuted for it. No, but you’re probably right. I’m sure the federal government will go hunt down that one guy who shot some random drone down allegedly lol.
@@scpanzorif my kids are in the yard and you fly your toy over them you wont have a drone to take home.
100%
As a former Drone Pilot it has been my experience that people do not fear the drone it's self. It is the fear of not knowing what the drone is recording meaning they do not know if the drone is actually recording them personally. Also, most people do not fully comprehend the lawful rights for themselves and/or others meaning when it come to the laws most people have little to know comprehension of what is legal or illegal. Education and full comprehensions of the rights for self and others is paramount. As a suggestion of when and where a plane or drone can and can not fly over a section area of land and/or water that restrictions apply such as no-fly-zones are important to point out to people that do not comprehend the full scope of the given situation. Thank you for helping people to learn the lawfully rights of Drone Pilots. Many blessings...
One of the problems we've had in this area is drones being used to "case" property. My town is a rural neighborhood, but, this has also happened in the cities. Someone flies a drone around a property looking for valuable equipment, or vehicles. (lately, they're looking for catalytic converters and figuring a schedule as to when to come take them)
I used to fly RC aircraft and LOVED the sport. I can certainly understand the attraction to flying drones, and, frankly, would have a blast.
The problem is, like any other... our laws and our ethic haven't caught up to our technology.
"Legit" pilots need to be sensitive about the real threat presented by the nefarious pilots.
"Nefarious" pilots need to accept their losses.... in equipment, or their freedom. (...and that means PROSECUTING those nefarious pilots, AND their assistants and associates)
The general public needs to get it through their collective head that there's a difference.
Look at the guy who used a drone to terrorized his ex girlfriend. He dropped small explosive devises when she was around.
Seems like a dumb way to case properties. Drones are not exactly silent. In fact when flown low and hovering they tend to be quite noisy and draw attention. Or do they do this casing from high up to get an idea of the ground layout?
@@WitchidWitchid I've seen a pantload of drones that really aren't that noisy. 60 feet away and you can barely hear them. I've even see a couple that were used to record local events (with audio). I was really surprised at just how quiet they can be. They don't even have to be that low to get a good view of equipment and tools on a property.
They're a LOT less noticeable than someone walking around at ground level trying to get a lay-of-the-land. And, even if they're noticed, they can scoot away over the treeline P.D.Q.
They’re drone operators. Stop belittling pilots
People in rural areas are notoriously paranoid.
I have a friend with a farm in Canada. His neighbour went drone crazy. My friend started shooting every one of them down. The drone owner called the police who said, "Don't fly drones over your neighbour's property and he won't shoot them down." This was pretty cool, seeing the police in Canada aren't keen on people solving problems with guns.
Well that’s a complete lie
I like drones, and I think they're neat. But I don't want one over my place, ever. I live in rural Arkansas, there isn't a road passing my place, I don't get strange cars here by accident and I don't want a strange drone here. I would probably be in the "ask questions later" category.
I understand where you're coming from. I'm an Arkie myself, even though I currently live in NW Georgia. I also live in a rural area and my driveway is 1/4 mile long. You cannot see my house from the road. I also have an adverse reaction to strangers pulling up to my house and I definitely don't want a drone hovering around my home. A lot depends on the situation. A drone passing over my home at a couple of hundred feet, no real big problem. But if one is hovering around my domain at 25 ft. off the ground, it just might be mistaken for a hawk or owl after one of my chickens...if you get my drift.
@fleetfootedtexan Check your local laws, where I live, homeowners "own" 500 feet above their house. If its a tall building, like an apartment building, its 500+ feet. #7 shot works best.
@@smackyomomma5666 I like #4 Magnum turkey loads. They kick like hell, but get the job done. Turkeys - or whatever ;)
Amen
@@smackyomomma5666 In the United States Federal Law (FAA) supersedes local and state laws regarding airspace rights. PERIOD. However where the drone operates from (takeoff and landing) is definitely within the local laws jurisdiction. Shooting at/down a drone is a Felony as it is in the same category as any aircraft legally operating.
What would be the reasoning for any drone to be flying within shotgun range(Which isn't far at all) near any home in a rural area. I think this works both ways. I have no problems with drones as long as those who are flying them respect people's privacy. It's alot easier to identify and report a car to the authorities how do you describe a drone that's being controlled a mile away?
How do you know why the drone is there. Maybe its part of a search and rescue mission looking for a lost kid or something. I understand that people want absolute privacy. But privacy is not always 100% guaranteed nor 100% absolute. If a person is on public land or in public airspace they can legally film what they can see. The constitution upholds that right. For example someone could shoot video of me when I am out in public I have no expectation of privacy. Someone passing my home on a public road can take a picture of my home from the public road or walkway.
@@WitchidWitchid i believe that if you are in a search and rescue the people around should know. If not then it isn't going to end well.
@@WitchidWitchid so if your flying your drone over my property and i ask u the reason then u would say "wouldnt u like to know"? and then say my privacy is not guaranteed or absolute?! you would go to jail and explain yourselves to the police that tell us to shoot the drones down how it is. they used for criminal purposes too much. in some areas u would get shot. this is the dumbest pro drone comment yet on here ive seen. your ignorance and stupidity is not only a danger to the freedoms of drone users everywhere but your willing to get yourself killed using your priviledge to infringe on other peoples rights. you will get a warning from the cops and they will take your priviledge away unless u wanna risk jail flying a drone again in that county.
@@WitchidWitchid Key word... "Public" property OK.. Private property is not OK
@@RJ-sr5dv Will you shoot down the overflying 737 also? Someone is looking out that window right at your pot grow.
Your video made me curious. So I looked it up for my state and found this: "California has laws that regulates uncontrolled airspace. In August 2015, the State Assembly passed a law prohibiting drone flights over private property as they are a trespass. According to this legislation, you'll face privacy infringement charges if you fly a drone over personal property without the owner's consent." That being said, it also states that it is illegal to shoot it down or even use a net or jamming device on the drone. The best they could offer was to find the drone owner and ask them to not fly over your house. I assume if they are already flying over your house, they don't see it as a problem and I doubt will comply with your request. Some might I guess. I assume the only recourse would be to call the police and ask for a trespass charge. Which I doubt they will do as its a low level offense. I think as drone usage increases, the rules and regulations to protect privacy will gain traction. I think drones are awesome, but also do not want someone filming in my house through a window. So I think the right to privacy should trump the right to fly a drone over private property.
California law in this case is trying to usurp federal law. California CAN NOT regulate drones beyond what the FAA already regulates them.
in my state you can go to jail for trespassing.
I live by a park, and sometimes drones come down in my back yard, it should never be over my property, and I now longer return them as I always did before.
My nephew lives in a small town.
There was a fire downtown that destroyed an iconic building.
After the fire he took drone pictures of the disaster. Then posted it on the internet. He got nervous because he had not followed all the rules for drone operation. So he took it down.
The city contacted him. They had seen the video. They wanted his permission to post it on the city website.
It made him mini-famous for a while.
Small town in Michigan?
@@junkyardboost8372 Ohio
The city could have just as easily sent notice to the FSDO in the area for investigation.
Best part is if I shoot a drone down its like baiting the operator to come find it
Good Points. I have my Part 107 license, and a registered commecial drone operator. Having photographed in hospitals (high security/privacy) and in government buildings, I'm aware of personal privacy issues and repsect them. Sounds like the first visit is to the local law enforcement to introduce myself.
If a drone gets to low and peers in my window. It's going down, my dog is going to get it. I don't think they can fine or jail my dog lol.
Well yeah you can't fly over someone's house or around a neighborhood but you can in other places like most public parks
There's dogs in public parks lol@@pengos1639
@@pengos1639you can fly over a neighborhood there’s no laws against it
@@samw2431your right they do not own the air space over their property
It ultimately comes down to rules and the rules are a dynamic, moving target that are consistently changing. I have a Mavic Pro that I bought a few years back. I have the remote pilot license and I also have a private pilot's license that I've had for 47 years and I currently own three actual airplanes. I think drones are cool and all but I'm sorry, they don't belong in an urban environment. If you are in your back yard and a drone from an unknown source is flying around or over you with it's 4k video camera it is not a pleasant experience.
So my advice to drone enthusiasts is to go out into the woods and don't bug people because otherwise there are just going to be more rules and you won't have justification against them. It's a privacy issue.
Except they can and do fly in urban environments all the time. Don't be injecting rules where they aren't needed. I didn't hear you crying over privacy when police installed cameras everywhere, nor do I hear anything about the constant surveillance we are subjected to daily, yet you are going to whine about the one camera that isn't pointed at you? Thing is, it is already illegal to surveil private property with a drone, and it isn't that difficult to spot when you see it. Someone lingering or hovering low near your buildings or home, that's probably something they shouldn't be doing, and as a remote operator they know that's illegal. But if it is just a drone in transit? None of your business. Up high taking a panorama of the landscape? Not your concern.
@@adcraziness1501 Sorry I'm neither whining nor do I make the rules, just sayin...Shooting the messenger won't change the message. Drones irritate people, that's just a fact and I have nothing to do with it.
@@pi.actual There's plenty that irritates me, like the lead in the air from General Aviation's incessant use of the stuff. You know, legitimate complaints.
@@adcraziness1501 A legitimate concern that is being addressed as an unleaded avgas formula has been approved and leaded avgas will soon be a thing of the past. In regards to drones, the same. Remote ID is already here and will be in full effect next year. To use an old adage - the squeaky wheel gets the grease.
@@pi.actual A lot of things can change between now and next year. But it is seriously about time for the unleaded fuel. That is good to know.
I live in the city. A drone came flying over our yard while my wife and I were having some beers on a beautiful day. The thing sat over our house for 10 minutes and I know he, she, it was watching us. Can't shoot it down because of the city limits and firearms. Call the police and tell them that a drone is flying over our house. I wonder how long it would take for an officer, on a nice Saturday afternoon with speeders and drunk drivers and everything else. A drone flying over would take a back seat to everything else. Maybe the guy was casing our yard. We don't live in a high crime area but things do disappear from time to time. Personally, I hate drones with helicopters a close second. I've heard of people buying cheap quad rotors to go up and knock down other drones, kind of a kamikaze anti drone drone.
Kamikaze anti drone.. I like it. Or a trained hawk, ha
im designing and building a Peeper kite...do i need to get a remote id for this??it is silent on most days...with mounted go pro it can swoop down in front of your window and fire off 30 pics....and leave the area ASAP...what say you??
Proud of you! My fairly recent story:
I was flying DJI drone (Mavic Air 2) from the property I lived on. A nearby neighbor walked over to me and asked me why I was flying it there (where I lived!). I filled him in on some of the regs, told him that I would avoid his property if he felt better that way, etc. He said fine. Then one day I asked him first if I could fly over some outlying property that he owned, and take some pictures of his old barn, and a field that was full of deer. He said fine, just don't be snooping around his house (snooping?). I flew over, and then lowered and elevated the drone, all the while filming this gorgeous old building, and the deer walking around in the field. When I returned he walked over again and then demanded that I let him know precisely when I was going to fly there, and he did not want me snooping around his house (again). He said he'd shoot it down if he saw it anywhere in the sky at this point. I'm not as nice as you, and I can back up what I say if I get angry as well, but I told him fine. Shoot it down. There's a new model out (Mavic 3 then) and I'd be happy to pay for it with his money, that is after he paid a big fine to the FAA, and after he went to court for his illegal act. He walked towards me, cursing, I stood up and just smiled at him. Inevitably he stopped, turned around, and left. Like you I will not try to purposely anger a person, but it's hard for me sometimes. Ex-Army, Ex-MP, Ex-pilot, current drone enthusiast. I do everything I can to relinquish anger today. It's just not wroth it ordinarily.
Big props to you for the way you handled him. But in the interest of neighborly chivalry, why not get a gorgeous aerial pano of his barn at twilight, make a nice print, and give it to your neighbor as a gift?
@@milesian1 he might get even angrier. Lol “ you have a photo of my barn?!”
@@Instant_Nerf Haha, didn't anticipate that possibility.
I have a lot of time for you way of being mate 👍
@@milesian1 Nice idea, and still possible. thanks!
LAW OR NO LAW, IF YOU HAVE A MORE OR LESS PEEPING TOM ABOVE YOUR PRIVATE RESIDENTS, NOT FLYING ACROSS IT BUT HOVERING OVER IT LOOKING, TAKE THAT DROWN DOWN NO MATTER WHAT!
You're not the main character, no one's watching you.
12ga with #4 birdshot works really well
@@beeranch2859 More like video evidence for a felony reckless conduct charge.
Yes. Do it. You are brave as you are dumb.
Do you realize typing in all caps indicates YELLING and SCREAMING! Most likely not your intent. All caps are more difficult to read than all lowercase letters. In forums all caps are highly frowned upon, an most folks will not read posts in all caps. Question, what news print, magazine, and the like uses all caps only, truly none.
my experience , i was visiting my sister at her cottage and while having tea on the deck of her lakefront cottage a drone dropped in from above and hovered some 60 ft from us watching us for a few seconds and took off. we had no way of nowing who,s drone it was or what was going on. now that is pushing it id say.
I think a factor in the "I'll shoot it down" reaction is that the typical would-be shooters feel that they "are only taking an annoying toy from you". UAV blade noise is something that adds to the situation by calling attention to the UAV plus no one thinks the sound of a drone is "pleasant" so they attribute that annoyance to you, the operator .
@@UnderWorldOfDarkness Land owner has no control over air space, which belongs under control of national aviation authority in every civilized country.
Though would consider flying at tree top level above yard/garden as definite breach of land owner's privacy/rights.
@@tuunaes Drone operator has no control of landowner shooting skeet on their own property, and the drone just happening to be over the skeet range! What do you think of that?
@@stevenmark8156 what drone? ;)
@@miketlane Bingo ! What drone ?
@@dallasarnold8615 dont know, must have crashed...
I live out in the middle of nowhere my closest neighbor to me is 20 mi away and the closest police station is 20 mi away so if I see a drone flying around my house they are 100% spying on me and they have no business of being anywhere near my property with the Drone so yes I will shoot your drone out of the sky if it's near my house and no cop will drive that far out to my house because of a drone and I had that happen to me about 5 years ago and I shot one out of the sky and I had reported it to police and they said the same thing that person had no business flying one around my house in the absolute middle of nowhere and that who ever it was had to of been on my property just to get the drone to my house and they told me to put up trail cams throughout my property to try and catch someone if it happened again but luckily it's never happened again.
You hover your drone over my property, it's a shotgun target. By the time the law responds there will be no evidence left that here ever was a drone.
I'd disassemble it and sell the parts on ebay!
Except the video streamed to the cloud of you doing it. Plan ahead.
LOL drones record everything and send the video back to the remote where it is recorded. So even if you destroy the drone they will be able to see that you did it on the video. Not only that the coordinates will be stored. The police will be arriving shortly to deal with you
@@rotorav8that's an "and tell your friends" moment.
The best way to run a drone off is with a super bright light with a tight beam. Two different times we have had a drone low over our land and house and both times they were ran off by the light. I have a light made by SureFire called a HellFighter and it's just that, it's like facing a camera at the sun. All you will be doing is keeping the drone from getting and video or photos not forcing it down.
Good advice
First timer here. I know nothing about drones. I am rather ambivalent towards the use of them.
I have wondered though what the consequences could be for shooting one down.
Thus I really appreciated your objective, factual presentation.
The death of a child, mother or god forbid a pregnant mother over Literally NOTHING.
You CANT justify otherwise.
Cause that stray bullet murdered someone. You lost
Honestly, I have a pretty private home. I like it that way. I could care less if a drone overflies my house so long at it keeps going and doesn't hover around. Once it starts hovering I have the same issue as someone camping out in my driveway. In the case of the driveway calling the authorities is the SECOND thing I'd do. Trust me you'd hear about it.
If you can't see any difference between a person trespassing where they don't belong, and a drone hovering where it's protected by federal law, the rest of us would like to get out our popcorn and watch the show. Especially after you announced your intentions in writing, documented forever, and if your username is your actual name. Brilliant. You won't even be able to claim it was a bad decision in the heat of the moment, with this evidence of premeditation. Congrats on putting yourself in that small minority of people who would probably actually get prison time on a first offense, rather than a plea bargain.
@@EfficientRVer You guys are a piece of work."I can do what I want and you can't stop me" Heard it a million times. Property owners have rights too. I don't see any threats made in my posts BTW and none have been implied either. Now run along and play with your toys elsewhere. Seems to me you're pretty whiny about this..........somebody give you a hard time? I'll even let you in on a little secret........you can't fly drones in my area......we have airports, seaplanes, Hospitals etc. If see any being flown......even toys.........I'll be reporting it myself from now on.
@@Digger49er Since you're a homeowner, I would think that you are smart enough to know that you don't own the airspace above your house.
@@Nessal83 I get that .......but there's more to it. Here's what I know from Government regs.
Can my neighbour fly a drone over my house?
Answer: The use of drones, officially called Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS), is regulated by both state law and the Federal Aviation Administration. In a nutshell, a drone operator can’t fly over people or their property without permission.
Can you fly a drone over private property in Canada?
As for altitude restrictions, drones may only be flown below a maximum altitude of 400 feet above ground level or, if higher than 400 feet above ground level, remain within 400 feet of a structure; however, drones cannot fly directly over an individual without their consent.
Can my Neighbour fly a drone over my garden?
If you fly your drone low over someone’s land without their permission, you could be liable in trespass or nuisance, even if you do not personally go onto the land (although this is generally a civil rather than a criminal matter).
The bottom line for me is that if a drone is merely traveling over my property I don't care. If its hovering and I feel it's invading my privacy I'll take it as far as I can legally.
@@EfficientRVer If you loiter your drone over someones house expect to be shot down or at the very least have the cops called. It's just a common decency kind of thing.
People are not afraid of the 1000 cameras recording them in their life all day long, but go crazy when a guy is enjoying his drone.
On private property
@@colinl5951So what are you sunbathing nude in your backyard.
When the cameras are located in a public place, or a private business, I have no issues. Privacy is up to the individual, so if you fly a drone over private property, you get what you get.
@colinl5951 your private property does not include airspace.... learn the laws before you get yourself arrested
i had the dec put trail cam's on my private property still fighting them but the open field law get's in the way . private doesn't all -way's mean private .
Interesting 🤔... I shot one down above my house almost a year ago and never once was in trouble of any kind. I'll continue to do it if it happens again either way 🙂
Well, as long as it’s above you’re house. You own that property “all the way to heaven and to the depths of hell”.
If they want to pass through, they have to do it at a reasonable height as not to bother you, only then can it be considered as passing through an “easement”.
Well if it was mine your house would have burnt to the ground. I'm an eye for a eye kind of guy..
@David Roads bahahaha yeah ok sure
I saw a drone over my house. I sent up my drone to say 👋 lol
The problem we might have if/when the police get called against us is that they don't know all the laws their supposed to enforce.
That's when I'd educate the officers by telling them the airspace is controlled by the FAA, and you're a drone pilot. And as with other aircraft, you requested and obtained clearance by the FAA to fly in that airspace at the altitude and time frame you were flying, and that your flight is logged with the FAA if they wish to follow up. I'd probably go so far as to show them the ALOFT, B4UFly, AirMap or other similar app showing this is unrestricted airspace, and zoom out to show them what colors are restricted so they can see the difference. I think would be enough to satisfy most cops that do not know drone laws that you know what you're doing and that you're flying legally, versus some random person saying you're not allowed to fly there. I'd do everything I could to not escalate the issue with emotion though. Losing your calm, cool demeanor will only hurt you and other good drone pilots that fly correctly. I can't blame cops for not knowing drone laws. heck, there are over 10,000 laws on the books and even the Supreme Court Justices do not know them all, so how can a cop be expected to know them? Cops do the best they can with what they have, and if you don't push them into a corner by being a jerk, I'd bet 99% of them would be happy to be educated so they know better how to deal with similar calls in the future.
The other big issue that needs to be addressed are the state and local ordinances that prohibit UAS operations in certain areas. According to the FAA, no state or local law pertaining to operation of UAS in the NAS would stand up in federal court. This hasn't stopped many cities, towns, counties from creating some pretty harsh rules - to include felony charges. Someone will have to go through that ordeal, then challenge it in federal court to have it overturned - very stressful, very expensive, not to mention you'd have been charged with a felony - so certain rights would be infringed upon... slippery slope.
@@matts6807 Agreed. I do not have the funds to lead that charge, but I think the person that did take on that challenge could start a go fund me site and plenty of us drone pilots would contribute to their bills over this order while they fight on our behalf.
@@Troy-Echo easy answer then, don't fly in questionable areas where you think this could be an issue. leave that to those willing to risk their drone, time and money.
Police don't enforce aircraft regulations or laws. Which is fine. There are way too many laws + constant flow of court decisions to keep track of. Common sense should tell you that if you can't hover a helicopter 80 feet over private property with a video camera, why should drones be exempt?? I'm using the postings about FAA regs calling them "aircraft".
This whole little drone thing is going to end up with a truckload of regulations due to lack of common sense by users. Its how most laws end up on the books.
I fly, but drones getting too close to anyone could be considered an invasion of space. Small drones require no license and could be considered stalking or voyuer, etc. A house should be granted a personal air-space.
The bottom line at the end of the day is just fly respectfully. Do your best if you are going to fly over private property don’t stop and take pictures just buzz by fast and high. This is a very good video there’s a lot of controversy out there for sure. Being a drone pilot I am extremely sensitive to privacy, one time I was flying at the beach and there were some RVs and I was just zooming down the beach doing some shots of just the waves, but this guy came up on me so hard and fast he was ready to go to fight I looked at him and said don’t worry I’m not gonna put the pictures of you and your girlfriend on the Internet. His eyes got his big is silver dollars he walked away.
It all comes down to personal perception --- I was flying over a dog park a couple years ago and a couple got mad at me for "flying low" and irritating their dogs --- I calmly told them that they and their stupid dog don't own the airspace above the park and literally anything can "irritate" a dog, such as a gunshot, music, screaming, etc. They were threatening to call police on me but I said go ahead and we'll see who wins. They just walked away pissed off knowing they lost LOL.
@@fredwerza3478 In some states they can arrest you for disorderly conduct. With your arrogant, insolent attitude, I suspect the cops would gladly remove you and your drone.
First, I agree largely with what you say here, so don't misconstrue the following with a rebuke; it's just a little information. I'm a former USAF maintenance tech and then a govt contractor working in depot/retrofit/enhancement. We did a LOT of repairs on aircraft and it wasn't unusual to pull wings, leading edges, skins, replace stringers, longerons, and other primary and secondary structure. There's a lot of data about FOD damage to aircraft engines and the impact damage on skins and landing gear components. A single washer can cause an engine to shell-out; if it is in the wrong place it can stop an actuator from articulating it's assembly (think landiing gear or flaps/ailerons/rudder). The 'nose' of an aircraft is often a composite material and this houses the radar systems along with other components like LOX tanks, hydraulic lines, electrical lines, and navigational systems, and even some communications systems; a drone struck at 100mph or more could easily rip through a lot of equipment causing a failure.
As someone who lives in the UK, the mere notion that someone can think that flying a drone is wrong while shooting off a gun in public is a perfectly reasonable thing to do... it absolutely spaghettifies my brain 🤨
'Murica. I can't believe the nonsense I hear from people when I'm flying, and all the misinformation.
Welcome to America, gun nut capital of the world!! We are not all like that, mostly the low lifes in rural areas mostly. The kind that voted for Trump.
I’m in Canada but one think I’m thankful for in North America is that acids are not frequently thrown in peoples faces here, and nobody on a scooter has whizzed by and stole my phone. Doesn’t matter where you live, there are societal problems I guess.
Fortunately, anyone waving a gun around in the UK is likely to get a one way ticket to prison. Doubly fortunately, almost no-one has a gun here.
Hello from Oklahoma! Just remember, laws on privacy and drones varies from state to state.
A drone was used to case my home. Weeks after I first noticed it, it didn't concern me much. Then I had a theft of my motorcycle just within an hour of a drown flying over my home and watching me leave. I now am a big believer in privacy. If people are using drones to commit a crime,I won't hesitate to blow it out of the sky and throw it in the river.
I strongly agree
And Uncle Sam will come to your house and attempt to arrest you, and if you resist arrest, they will attempt to shoot you, and if you are successful in resisting arrest, SWAT will be called in and they will knock your house off its foundation while you are on the 5:00 local news and the local news journalists will say that you are “believed to be a crack dealer within a mile from a kindergarten school” ! At which time you will be fired from your job, because they will absolutely not tolerate negative media concerning children, and their business. The story line goes on and on, AND YOU WILL BE THE LOSER…EVERY TIME…OVER AND OVER AGAIN !
YOU ARE AWARE OF THE FACT THAT YOU LIVE IN AMERICA RIGHT !?
If you blow my $2000 drone out of the sky --- I'm gonna blow you away
@@fredwerza3478 Then don't do stupid shit with it. Actions have consequences.
If you can afford a drone, you are not committing crimes lmao
To begin I'm not a drone pilot at this time. I considered buying one and learning to fly but was dissuaded from doing so when I began to learn about the negativity between the general public, and federal rules that apply to flying. While I don't consider myself a "crazy" when it comes to private property, and private air space, I do become incensed when I realize that other than notifying LE authorities, who we all know are going to prioritize my drone complaint below littering, I have essentially no recourse. And here comes maybe just a bit of paranoia, when I say that I think my main opponent is not the FAA but Amazon, Dairy Queen, and the likes, who may think they can commercialize drones to deliver their products.
I like your videos because of your levelheadedness and common sense approach to the conflict between pilots and the public. None-the-less I will say that if a drone was found to be loitering low over my property, or doing so more than once, I would be sorely tempted to throw a rock at it. I would not shoot it down because as a gun owner I'm very aware of the dangers of doing that. But I would feel that low altitude presence, or repeated presence, might well be for nefarious reasons. And after reporting it and getting no relief would surely become Anti-Drone. Perhaps one solution other than the one you seem to propose which is that the public should learn to live with drones is that pilots should learn to live with the public, and stay away from private residences.
Or you quit being sensitive and grow a pair?
So?
Throw a rock and it comes down and cracks open a skull?
Or breaks a car window?
Or a window out of a house?
Or a kid playing?
Or
Or
Or
Not any different than a bullet.
@@RM-lk1so Think of these fck sticks who are wanting to actually shoot at them. 🥴
slingshot
@@Marcus2750-u1t Then you wouldn't mind having your drone destroyed. Otherwise, grow a pair.
Actually, the FAA does not own the air down to the ground, as they used to claim. I am a drone owner. I have two, which I use to survey my own property. And I agree with your analogy, as far as it goes. If I catch somebody peeking in my daughter's window, I WILL shoot them. But if someone is passing by, on foot or in the air, it doesn't bother me. Being on acreage, I see things a little differently than city dwellers, I suppose. If anybody is going to accost someone, over anything, they better know chapter and verse. Nothing is illegal just because you say so.
If you catch someone peeking into your daughter's window and shoot them, call me, I'll help you bury the scum. If you go it solo just remember, it's not about location of where you bury them, it's how deep you bury them.
Centuries past it was considered that if you owned a piece of land you also owned everything above and below it.Basically you owned everything from hell to heaven. But all in all it was a non-issue until the early 20th century when aircraft and travel by air became a reality and it needed to be determined whether or not a plane or a dirigible was trasspassing on private property simply by flying over it. Over time it was decided that 500 feet AGL or higher is considered "public airspace" (i.e. an aeriel public highway). But even that was a grey area since it was deemed that under certain conditions aircraft passing below 500 feet over private property is not nessesarily a tresspass. Now, with the market flooded with camera equipped drones that basically fly themselves (little or none of the skill that is required for building and operating model aircraft is required for most modern drones) it has become an issue once again. IMHO whether or not a drone is "tresspassing" depends on the manner in which it is being operated. If the drone is merely passing over private property on its way to wherever it is going I don;lt see it as any more of an issue than an ordinary plane passing by. But if the drone is dropping to a low altitude and hovering over a persons house, in front of windows, making passes over peoples heads, deliberately annoying people, operating dangerously, etc. then it is harassment and needs to be corrected. Whether it be shooting it down, or giving the operator a very stiff warning, contacting the cops, etc. I tend to think shooting it down is probably not the best of ideas but, I can understand how someone can become angered and enraged enough to the point they may shoot it.
So, you're ok if I fly my drone 100ft over your house? Pool? Front yard?
It would depend. For a drone 100 feet is pretty high up. Chances are I might not even notice you. Your drone would be appear pretty small. If you are operating legally and passing over my property I might not mind. If you are hovering for a minute or so I might not mind either. If you are constantly hovering overhead or you keep coming back and if you drop to a low altitude, fly right over my head, fly in front of my windows, etc. then I would probably consider it a form of harassment and I would take steps to find out who you are, why you are operating in such a manner, and take further steps to correct the situation.
Did the FAA really claim that or did it claim it was accountable for overseeing air traffic in that area? I've never seen any suggestion that the FAA owned any airspace.
I avoid flying over private residences, and follow streets when flying in the city/town limits.
I think you made some great points. I’ve been into Surface R/C vehicles for 25 years and I just recently started looking into buying a nice drone.
However with that said…I’m on 10 acres in northern Wisconsin with old retired guys around me. So if there’s a drone over my property. It’s coming down. Not saying how, not saying when. Just that it’s not making it home.
As far as calling the police… Police in these situations are largely worthless. Even if they do track down the owner and that person admits to flying in the vicinity. There’s literally nothing they can do other than say “ that guy didn’t like that”. Which for some flip flop wearing guys might be enough to prevent it from ever happening again. But in most situations that would only provoke further, non punishable, offenses by the operator. In any rural area, like mine, the police are probably not gonna care if you take down a drone. And I can assure you that they would probably take your side and ask the drone operator “why were you flying over his property in the first place?” But on the off chance they do care, I can promise you our police department of 4 officers has ZERO ability to get any more information than I can. Especially long after the sighting occurs…
So, do you also shoot down manned aircraft that pass over your property ?
@@WitchidWitchid I think the issue is that a drone can hover over an area for a long period of time-the only purpose I can think of is to capture information about residents, or any activity at the property. People have fences around their property to prevent this intrusion, and protect that privacy. A manned craft like a commercial plane won't be gathering information or invading anyone's privacy in my opinion.
Sounds like you're a Grade A #1 certified peeper to me.
@@bobert5785 There is no expectation of perfect privacy even if you are on your own property. Anything someone see's from a public space they can film. A drone doesn't even have to fly over a given property to see into fenced off areas. If I send a drone even just 50 feet over my own back yard I can pretty much see into everyone else's back yard on the street. Yet I am over my own property and not breaking any laws. Much the same way a kid climbing a tree can see over fences and into everyones yard yet isn't breaking any laws.
In my opinion drones are a non issue unless someone is deliberately harassing you such as flying very low into your property, trying to level with and peek into windows, coming in right over your head etc. where its obviously deliberate and targetted. At that point the activity needs to be stopped.
Regarding privacy concerns if gathering intelligence on someone is the main goal a low flying drone isn't a smart choice. They are noisy, slow, easily located, and can be shot down. Real intel would be gathered via hidden cameras, stealth high altitude drones and spy aircraft and sattelites and even old school low tech means.
@@bobert5785 You are assuming that the camera is pointing DOWN. It might be recording a landscape, a sunset, or any number of other subjects having zero to do with what's immediately below the aircraft.
Too many drones spying on people, and depending on the police to track it down is like expecting the police to do something about a robbery on your property, good luck getting any help with that, just speaking from experience
The police - best paid clean-up crew and when seconds count they are just minutes away (maybe).
If your drone is within shotgun range (80yds or less) over private property you're flying too low. There isn't anything you need to photograph or film on private property within 80yds if the owner of the land is so uptight about it.
There has been one drone strike on the leading edge left-wing of a commercial airliner and I don’t know the details. I just know I saw it on 74 gear but it didn’t cause significant damage or insignificant damage, even to the leading edge of the wing on the jet, obviously the drone was obliterated, if it had gone through the turbine, there’s a potential for problems but like you said the 1 drone versus a 20 pound Canadian goose I’ll take the drone every time.
Typically civilian drones are supposed to stay 400 ft or lower …..I suppose if you’re flying close to an airport on private property it could be a concern.
The problem with the law is that I had someone flying a drone in my back yard viewing into my windows. I live in PA and if someone flies a drone over your property 2 times, without permission, it is trespassing. But to find out who is flying it is almost impossible.
That’s not true anyone can fly over your property as much as they want but stopping and watching you would be illegal due to peeping Tom laws. Wait til Amazon and Walmart starts flying over everyone’s property including yours every day several times a day
@@DifferentPerspectivePhoto it is true. I looked up the Pennsylvania law.
Do you own the airspace over your property?
@@tomthomsen11 The dividing line between the portion of the airspace in the public domain and the portion protected as an incident of land ownership against invasions by aircraft, is the line delineated by the Federal Aviation Administration as the minimum safe altitude of flight[ix].
The common law stance on the relative rights of the landowner and the aviator to the use of air space above the surface of the earth is that an unprivileged intrusion in the space above the surface of the earth, at whatever height above the surface, is a trespass[x].
@@DifferentPerspectivePhoto f someone were to fly their drone into your yard, and hover it 5 feet off the ground, that would be a very deliberate invasion of privacy and would be classed as trespassing.
Now, what if they are 50 feet in the air? This could still be classed as trespassing or harassment but there is an argument to be made that it was an accident and they probably can’t see that much into your home. But they could, don’t get me wrong.
Amazing I have the exact same problem with my ham radio handie talkie and vhf/uhf scanner receiver. People jump to conclusions when I listen to first responders like fire rescue or police. They tell me it's illegal or some people think I am law enforcement and they get an attitude. What a small world.
WTF?
There are police scanner APPS.
ive had them.
Pretty boring actually.
As a fellow ham. We can Receive anything that isn't encrypted, we can't Transmit on those frequencies.
This is how nazi Germany and the cccp operated. Your neighbor becomes your worst enemy in some cases. Some people are just plain nosey and many have been programmed to be that way.
Love the video people get with drones, would probably really enjoy the hobby myself. But if my family was being violated or harassed by one, it would go down. And a gun is not necessary to accomplish this task.
Yup, just need to spend about $40 on an antenna and a raspberry pi, it'll look like a random malfunction
@@JohnnyTromboner ...or a catapult.
@@JohnnyTromboner what is the raspberry thing?
@@rucaroo33 it's a computer chip used in hobby and everyday objects.
During one of my flight training classes, I was flying about 1000 ft AGL when someone crashed their drone into the tailboom of the helicopter. Never seen the thing coming.
I made an emergency landing, back at the airport, & checked the damage. There was a nice big dent in the tail boom, right behind the tail rotor, which was also impacted.
And somehow you think my Sub 250gram drone could have done it? It wouldn't even scratch the Paint!
I would be very uncomfortable flying a drone over someone else's home.
Kind creepy don't you think...
The FAA could easily remedy this. Make it mandatory under penalty of jail time to file a flight path with the FAA for every drone flight and if that path crosses a private residence below a certain altitude, require the pilot to obtain permission from the homeowner. I'd also make it mandatory for all drones to display easily readable call numbers for identification. I seriously cannot think of a single, non-nefarious reason that a private drone pilot would need to fly over a private residence.
To photograph another residence for a Realtor.
This last season my buddy was finding dead crops in odd spots on his farm so we installed 2 cameras on his silo and 1 on an old HAM radio tower. Sure enough drones were being flown nightly over his land and right about where the crops seem to be dying. About a week later he called me over and sure enough there were 2 drones he picked off in the middle of his field that had cloth pouches fixed to them on one end and a claw type on the other and the pouches contained soil with bollworm and aphids from what he said. The drones that I've seen in the past have identifying markings and these had nothing which by regulation they need to in Minnesota. After the 2 he downed we haven't seen a single one since.
What a crock!
@@drhominidae What exactly are you referring to?
What model of drone was shot down? What’s the working theory? Competitive neighbor? Some weird conspiracy theory??
@@EricsWormPlayground I know absolutely nothing about drones but he did have the PD and Minnesota department of agriculture at his place over this. If I remember right the drone was a DHY or DAI or something like that. I do remember the PD saying it was illegal because it had no ID numbers and weighed a certain amount. It had small black 2 finger claw thing with wires on the bottom. 1 of his neighbors passed away the winter before this and his family wanted to sell the property to my buddy so they setup a meeting and a couple weeks before they were to meet, the family said they sold it to an interested buyer. It sold for thousands more than what they were asking my buddy and it is and has been empty to this day. It has a large barn, smaller barn, house and no equipment left that we can see when we drove to check out who was there to introduce ourselves (small town courtesy). He hasn't seen anyone there and hasn't had any issues since the drones were seen. On the footage it looks like the drones are coming from (sort of) the same direction as that property but can't be sure.
@@mdh1775 interesting info. I wonder who the saboteur was. DJI drones are a very popular brand, some used in agriculture to drop pesticides. The weight of the drone isn’t an illegal part, but the registration is an FAA requirement at least in recent history.
Interesting story, thanks for sharing!
As air space is regulated by FAA how can the local police do anything but advise the drone owner not to fly it over a certain Property?
I live rural. I don’t care if they fly around over the river in front of me, or cruise by on the way. But drones have hovered low over my house. A point from the goose gun sends them moving on, proving they see just fine. So not all people respect privacy, and eventually one will get shot down.
Most of them don’t respect the rights of others, yet think they have rights to disrespect other persons rights . I’ve got a pervy neighbor that like to fly his drone over another neighbors back yard that has a pool and usually has teenage girls swimming and sunbathing. But it’s the drone owner’s rights to do that…
You shoot at the drone and visually through video it's caught, it's the same as shooting at a jet airliner under federal law! You're gonna be picking up soap in the shower in a federal penitentiary! 😂
@@turkey0165 Its an unjust system, true. Don't invade my airspace, of the sovereign nation of my yard. Getting hit by a shotgun would be proof positive the altitude invaded my airspace.
@@jamesmadison6838 I hope you don't shoot one down! Something hillbilly's maybe you not included don't understand is that the FEDS are more powerful than they are! Drones are protected under Fed Laws! Unless they are very very low and videoing you and YOU can prove IT ! Let the cops do their job, that's what you pay them to do!
Pass the SOAP 🧼!
I would have asked him, "How does my flying over the hospital grounds affect you personally?" I would have loved to have heard his answer.
Is this win spam ???
Maybe he owns the hospital.
If he actually owns the hospital (which I doubt he does) he and a lot of other people need to learn that you don’t own the airspace
Any answer to that question has nothing to do with whether something is legal or not.
I'd have to guess he was doing things he didn't want anyone to see.
You should have stood your ground and called the police. I had someone threaten me, and I wasn't going to tolerate it, so I called myself. The police put the guy in his place and I've not had a problem from him since.
Told several people to go ahead and call the cops while I was shooting this property or that. None of them has.
Always stand up to bullies and morons... most of them don't know what to do after you refuse to be scared of them.
@@harrysteeletreo1 Keep it up, you'll meet the wrong person one day.
You are absolutely wrong. I have a half acre lot with a large pool with an 8 foot tall privacy fence. I regularly lay out in the sun for a few hours every day. One day I heard a strange noise over head to find a drone about fifty feet directly over me. I quickly covered up and ran into the house. Calling my husband at work who ordered a device (next day air) to capture a drone. So I went out two days later on a Saturday at the same time and a half hour later the drone reappeared. The device work well and we had the drone. We called the police who showed up minutes after the man, who own the drone, arrived to claim his device. To make a long story short the police found images of me on his computer and on the internet. The drone owner is now listed as a sex offender and is serving a 5 year sentence for a variety of charges. Keep that in mind.
I'd still shoot one that was hovering over my property if it was low. If you wait for law enforcement to take care of the issue it won't get resolved. Not in my county anyway. Upland game loads are the safest loads to shoot in the air. Just be sure your aware of what's beyond the drone. I have a Mavic Mini and fly it on my private property and public state parks not over others private property. I would expect my drone to be shot if I was flying over private property.
They don't have battery life to linger very long. It's not worth the trouble you'd bring on yourself trying to justify your destruction of property later.
I understand that my 13-year-old daughter and two of her friends was in our swimming pool and a drone Enthusiast just couldn't stop Flying his drone over our property so yes drones can be a problem especially when people abused them
The only drones that should fly around is they are using them for electric survey but if one was flying over my property And I can not lay out in my back yard I would be going to jail they should ha e fields for enthusiasts and not evading private property business only use only
Exactly. I have a small baby and there are people flying over our house and i have called the police but they laughed at me and told me to throw rocks at it. And I have drone also, i just fly it in the wild or at sea.
Respect for one’s personal property is huge.
While I can see lots of reasons to have a drone, I would NOT operate one over someone else’s property . They are entitled to their privacy.
If you see a professional drone the pilot is probably faa certified, if he is your going to be a ton of legal trouble for damaging his equipment.
Not according to the FAA. Also, unless you have a $5,000 drone capable of being retrofitted with a longer focal length lens, or something like a DJI Mavic Pro 3 with a medium telephoto and telephoto lens (although the telephoto lens is pretty trash IMO) the drone operator isn't going to be able to discern much in the way of detail unless they're flying ridiculously close to your property, in which you'll easily be able to hear the drone hovering outside. Granted, there are always exceptions to the rule, but practically nobody outside of the government is going to be using a drone for malicious intent over your property. Also, if you're so worried about privacy, where's the uproar over Google Earth? I call bullshit.
I know this video has been up for a while.
I used to like drones but after coming close to being blown up 4 times they make me very nervous if I can’t see who’s flying them. I hope there’s people who have them that can understand.
People who use drones for work such as topography etc it’s understandable. For a person who does it as a Hobby it can be very odd. There are many cases of people using them to look in windows and invade privacy. It’s because of these people that many of us don’t care for these devices.
To sum it all up, it’s creepy and often times so are the people operating them.
Wouldn’t hurt to get a new Hobby. 👍🏼✌🏼🇺🇸
PS I had a drone fly and hover over my backyard while my wife and I were sitting on our back porch talking. It absolutely felt like an invasion of privacy. Creepy Drone People just stop it.
what a waste of technology ...peeping in someones window to see someone performing action....
Thanks Russ for the information. What I do is ask my neighbors for permission to fly over their house. I have not had one say no, lucky I guess. Some have asked me the shoot an overhead picture of their house, they wanted to see what their house looked like from above.
That’s the way to do it ASK First or just inform people if you’re going to be flying around their house. Privacy is the issue and please don’t just assume that because you can recite FAA information that you’re right. Your way or the highway ? Not so fast. Respect people and their privacy. Explain yourself and tell them you’re not going to be looking in their bedroom window.
It really is pretty simple... If you are within range of my firearm, you are too damn close... Same goes for your drone... I'm a Texan and grew up on a ranch... We value our privacy here and don't look kindly upon trespassers... And if that trespasser is a drone, we're going to be even less concerned about eliminating it because we won't have to deal with the decomp smell... :)
would be pretty easy target practice as well
And that right there is all I'm saying. Well put, Mr. Seoltoir.
No matter what you think, the law is the law. Shooting at/down a drone is a Felony as it is in the same category as any aircraft legally operating. Which means that you WILL be prosecuted like if you shoot a plane full of passengers.
@@dronyland -- No different than shooting down a paper airplane as far as I'm concerned... It's really pretty simple though... Don't trespass and you won't get shot...
You may understand the licensing requirements, but in the municipality where I live they have passed ordinances that ban you from flying over individuals private property without their Express permission.
So if you were to fly over someone’s yard and hover and they call the cops… If you haven’t left by the time the cops get there they could give you some harassment over the deal and if you push the issue I’m sure a citation.
This is to stop BS like where they caught the guy recently using a drone to film a woman through her second floor bathroom window. This is why people are not keen.
Anyone who is dumb enough to use a shot gun to shoot down a drone deserves to be fined. Smart people will use a drone gun from cover. 😉
It is common practice for drones to be used for a multiple of reasons in the construction industry, the least of which being collecting progress footage start to finish to be used by a company involved in the construction process for use to market their abilities after completion and when tendering for new projects. It is even commonly used to provide feedback to interested parties (usually those who initiated the project) on the progress and to provide them with footage for public updates.
If you however fly a drone over my residential property you had better be passing by because if you stop it and hover over my property for any reason whatsoever without getting my prior consent, I will take my chances in court because my sentiment is that the lack of major criminal cases against those taking actions against drones that invade their privacy is because only a stupid individual will phone the cops to report you for taking out their drone when they have been invading your privacy.
If they aren't 30' above the inner core of my private, secluded property, fine, that sounds like a good and valid reason.
If I look at your house, from the street, you expect that. To look down from 500 ', that's to be expected, but not with ultra high resolution video gear.
From 30' or even 50', the drone intrusion should be legal to defend against
Yea that's an instant federal crime!
No different than a "Peeping Tom", you may just get shot.
You may not invade people's private areas, but to pretend no one does is not believable
@@tyrnclark people may use panel vans commonly to kidnap kids but that doesn't mean you have the right to accuse anyone that owns one of being a predator or shoot at one because it drives past your home.
I enjoy a lot of the views people get from drones, large areas, lakes, cities. And showing news items such as floods and other disasters. It's a view we couldn't get before except from heliicoptors which was very limited. However, low flying over someone's home is not ok. You better have a damn good reason if you do. There will be consequences if it happens to me.
In the state of Texas, you can file your property as a "no fly zone" with the FAA. It cost like 70 bucks and civilian drones cannot be flown over your property, that being said, law enforcement drones can still fly over your property ( with probable cause). Now, city owned drones for snooping in your backyard to determine property values or see if you have vehicles stored in your backyard, the city must contact you before flying over your property. Generally, 12 days prior notice.
I'm a helo pilot so operating below 500AGL is common practice for military & LEA but we're usually on a mission (I've had several near misses along low level routes near beaches). Drone pilots are often youtubers (commercial use) without a 107 cert or a municipality violating my 4th ... BUT the big issue for me is the sound which is like finger nails on a chalkboard ... super super annoying and the sound lasts longer than a helo passing by.
Well as a drone pilot when you are fallowing the law flying below 400 ft over water in UNRESTRICTED air space and suddenly a helicopter or military jet comes out of nowhere it's quite disturbing. Usually they fly so fast they are on top of you before you hear them. Drones cant fly fast enough to take evasive action. Maybe military should start to think about not be flying below 500 unless it's in their own restricted space. The two should never meet. There are over 2 million registered drones in the US. Just saying, maybe time to rethink things.
@@2Bluzin I get your point so my issue is with FAA & Part107 rules (not drone pilots although many violate LOS). Our mission requires us to be below 500agl so I think it comes to the concept of greater good (LEA, HEMS, DoD, etc). Do people want to be rescued +/or protected or do they just want cool non essential content on SM. Flying at the lower altitudes is a perishable skill so helicopters will need to operate there or abandon the public safety mission. Think of it like this; most skate parks don't allow shooters and you should not ride your bicycle on the freeway.
@@resQ-av8r With your point of view you should be working in Russia or China.
This is a tough subject. Land owners own to the core of the Earth and up and out to space. I've lived near an airport where property owners got the airport to stop flying planes over their property. Respect goes a long way.
@David Roads It absolutely does.
@David Roads Me too! You clearly don't own any land without dead restrictions! LOL! Isn't ignorance bliss?
So what we should do is asked for a federal LAW to obliged any drones to hold a license plate visible on the bottom so we can identify it 👽👌🏽
I can’t tell how you mean this comment but this is basically what remote Id is which is now enforced I believe.
You can view anyone in the area that is flying and they are identifiable.
All Licensed drones will emit a signal with the ID and the info of the pilot.
Its in the FAA laws.
Especially if the pilot is using it in any commercial way. Or making money.
I don't hate drones, I hate those that fly them. I hate the a-hole who's hovered over my yard while I'm out there in my underwear. And I hate the one who flew overhead this evening as I exited my car and when I turned to look at what was making the buzzing noise (I have tremendous bug phobia and we have big ones out here in the desert) this a-hole decided to stop flying and hover over me until I walked into my house. And speaking of bug phobia, I was up on a ladder last year, painting my two story shed and a drone a-hole flew over my yard and then hovered, as usual, and I fell off the last few steps as I tried to get away until I determined it wasn't a flying roach. If I could shoot him down, I would.
There needs to be more legislation for restricting drone flight in residential neighborhoods with the possible exception of those that are licensed to do so and are doing it for surveying purposes only. There also needs to be a way to identify these drones, similar to a tail ID number on an airplane...I realize they're too small but perhaps if they're required to emit a signal that can then be read via an app. This way, the pilot of the drone can be identified. There's no excuse to be hovering over somebody.