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  • @GrowlingSidewinder
    @GrowlingSidewinder  10 місяців тому +24

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    Thank you guys for watching and if you have any ideas for future videos please put them in the comment section below and they might just end up in the pipeline, thanks again, much Love.

    • @unotoli
      @unotoli 10 місяців тому

      2x2 collaborations? or 2 weak vs 1 superior?

    • @supremegreaser2399
      @supremegreaser2399 10 місяців тому +1

      Is there a supermarine spitfire model?

    • @Anarchy_420
      @Anarchy_420 10 місяців тому +1

      Please create a scenario with NGAD, SR-72, & B-21!

    • @tmytyson
      @tmytyson 10 місяців тому +1

      Battle of the Canards: A dogfight battle royale featuring (at a minimum) the Eurofighter Typhoon, SU30SM Flanker-H, and JAS39 Gripen. May the best 'nard win.

    • @wisco_guy
      @wisco_guy 10 місяців тому

      Would love to see either the F4U Corsair or the P51D with the Merlin engine fight against the Bf-109. The British Mk24 Spitfire would be cool, too.

  • @Boslandschap1
    @Boslandschap1 10 місяців тому +518

    If you miss making WW2 videos, just make more of them.
    It's as simple as that 😄

    • @17VINCE
      @17VINCE 10 місяців тому +17

      I second this lol

    • @J-P88
      @J-P88 10 місяців тому +11

      Third

    • @zentriel
      @zentriel 10 місяців тому +9

      Fourth

    • @ChillingIceCube
      @ChillingIceCube 10 місяців тому +5

      Completely agree,

    • @alets6211
      @alets6211 10 місяців тому +2

      🙏🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

  • @Paddyboy005
    @Paddyboy005 10 місяців тому +351

    I like the battles you have with Toxic. He seems to be one of the more challenging opponents.

    • @laymanengineer7502
      @laymanengineer7502 10 місяців тому +11

      Yeah. Toxic is one hell of an airplane pilot!

    • @riphopfer5816
      @riphopfer5816 10 місяців тому +10

      Agreed; also, I too love these WWII fights.

    • @justsmallstuff4994
      @justsmallstuff4994 10 місяців тому +13

      Toxic is an absolute gun of a pilot. I'm pretty sure he has the best K/D ratio against GS compared to the rest of opponents.

  • @collinlingaitis8872
    @collinlingaitis8872 10 місяців тому +203

    As someone who had spent far too much of his life on flight sims in the WW1/WW2 eras: P51's biggest advantage is her speed. Going too slow in a P51 is always a mistake. Big 2 circle fights keeping the Mustang fast, especially if you can put that circle off set a bit because most American plans have amazing energy retention. Personally I tend to think 6 .50cals are better than 1 heavy cannon (the ability to just hose a target is easier than being precise with a bigger gun)

    • @hound83
      @hound83 10 місяців тому +33

      True. For dogfights probably the 30mm was not the best choice, for me i always have the feeling the 30mm is there for the effect on bigger targets like bombers, its not optimal for fighter engagements....

    • @mrchrispy13
      @mrchrispy13 10 місяців тому +39

      not to mention the P-51 is meant to fight at high altitude, not on the deck; unless we're talking about the A's

    • @bimsbarkas
      @bimsbarkas 10 місяців тому +18

      Cutting the engine is an immediate loss, pretty much.
      Also, turning at all with the 109 should lose, if there is tobe a chance in such, the p51s faster roll might be the only way.

    • @monkeykingenma
      @monkeykingenma 10 місяців тому +18

      @@bimsbarkas p51 has a gsuit the 109 does not. keep the p51 fast and use combat flap and u can outturn that 109

    • @ericx777
      @ericx777 10 місяців тому +5

      @@hound83 I think the 30 Mike-Mike was more for taking down B-17's, B-24's and Avro Lancaster's. Against an agile fighter like the Spitfire or 'Stang, yea, way too slow unless you were within 100m.

  • @herrzimm
    @herrzimm 10 місяців тому +32

    LOVE seeing more WW1 and WW2 content being considered. Some of the most intense and exciting fights happen when you have these "old fashioned" dogfights happen. Mostly because it isn't just about the technology, but the pilot CONTROLLING the technology.

  • @billymorgan8870
    @billymorgan8870 10 місяців тому +78

    Love the WW2 dogfights! So much more up close and personal. Keep up the amazing work GS!

    • @larrym.9524
      @larrym.9524 10 місяців тому +6

      Absolutely!!! More of "it's the pilot, not the plane" action.

    • @timonsolus
      @timonsolus 10 місяців тому

      If you think WW2 is up close and personal, try WW1. Rise of Flight or Flying Circus.

  • @0neBadRabbit
    @0neBadRabbit 10 місяців тому +59

    Hey GS, while you're on a WWII kick, can we see some Pacific Theater dogfights?
    Or maybe a fleet attack mission, flying air support for torpedo bombers/ dive bombers?
    And as always, thank you for your dedication to cranking out top tier content, you give me something to nerd-out to everyday 😂

    • @zanaduz2018
      @zanaduz2018 10 місяців тому +6

      There aren’t many Pacific Theatre assets in either IL-2:GB or DCS; he’d need to get into IL-2: 1946 to have a Pacific Theatre combat

    • @0neBadRabbit
      @0neBadRabbit 10 місяців тому +1

      @@zanaduz2018 that's a shame. Pacific Theater had some impressive aircraft, and often gets overlooked in favor of European Theater. (Wasn't as "romantic", maybe? Just US vs. Japan, instead of the world vs. a madman)

    • @urviechalex9963
      @urviechalex9963 10 місяців тому +2

      @@0neBadRabbit The Japanese leadership was definitely mad enough!

    • @urviechalex9963
      @urviechalex9963 10 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, I would like to see him in a Ki-84!

    • @harrisonpowers4265
      @harrisonpowers4265 2 місяці тому +1

      @@0neBadRabbit Keep your eyes peeled on Combat Pilot. The Pacific Theater means a lot to me more personally (Dad served in the Navy) but also the F4F is one of my favorite dogfighters of that era.

  • @onenaner
    @onenaner 10 місяців тому +37

    more WW2 content? not complaining! love this content, keep it up man

  • @KenVic02
    @KenVic02 10 місяців тому +9

    Great matchup. I love how the unique howl of the Mustang is recreated as well. That's the subject of a lot of debate over the years... supercharger, radiator, etc. Saw a video from a guy who's restored them and he said it's from the longer gun tubes of the inner most guns (not barrel lengths of the guns themselves, they're all the same of course). As a result, a Helmholtz resonance is formed at certain speeds and angles of attack. Fascinating!

  • @lwrncschmchr
    @lwrncschmchr 10 місяців тому +10

    You can tell when GS is having to work hard to win, and the combination of that K4 and Toxic's piloting, definitely made him work.

  • @the_beef4762
    @the_beef4762 10 місяців тому +3

    Never get sick of WW2 bird videos. There's just something special about them. Much more intense than launching AMRAAMS from 60 miles then diving while listening to beeping. Though I do love those as well, the WW2 birds are the OG.

  • @whiplash8277
    @whiplash8277 10 місяців тому +7

    Thanks for more WWII content, Winder. You're skill is a pleasure to watch.

  • @lordhickory3322
    @lordhickory3322 10 місяців тому +15

    Love all the WW2 content lately!

  • @SledgeFox
    @SledgeFox 10 місяців тому +2

    WW2 fights are most exciting, thank you very much!

  • @Kjell777Iverson
    @Kjell777Iverson 10 місяців тому +2

    That 2nd fight was highly entertaining. Nice work as always, GS.

  • @GrybbC
    @GrybbC 10 місяців тому +16

    it seems the biggest flaw of the K-4 in the dogfight is the MK108's velocity making it difficult to aim at fighters. Some K-4s were fitted with the regular MG151 20mm instead, I wonder how much of a difference that would make. Love the WW2 videos!

    • @air-headedaviator1805
      @air-headedaviator1805 10 місяців тому +6

      One iteration of K’s featured two 20’s and the 30, along with 13mm guns in the nose. All you’d need is one good pass on anything to kill it. Made them real pigs tho.

    • @dscott6629
      @dscott6629 10 місяців тому +3

      @@air-headedaviator1805 Bomber killers.

    • @BARelement
      @BARelement 10 місяців тому +6

      If the DCS Mustang ran the correct historical horsepower setting it would be interesting aswell. But can’t have it all? Allied planes seem to always be shacked in these so called “Sims” I wonder why is that not the case for axis planes only allied planes in sims other then IL2 GB?
      The mustang in DCS is missing over 200HP! How is it you’re stuck at 61” of manifold pressure when by the time the G6 came out it was running 72” and 75”??? British mustangs ran 81”! So wtf is the DCS devs doing? Let me guess “balance”.

    • @momotheelder7124
      @momotheelder7124 10 місяців тому

      I also think six 50 cals is a much better armament solution when the pilot needs to fire spontaneously without a guarantee of every hit connecting-you can afford to spray a bit with the 50 cals and see what happens-not so with the 60 rounds of 30 mm.

  • @jay-nb6uk
    @jay-nb6uk 10 днів тому

    love all the content you make but the WWII dogfights is what brings me back the most!!

  • @j.s.unknkown7870
    @j.s.unknkown7870 10 місяців тому +3

    Those world war 2 dogfights were truly something different

  • @thiagorodrigues5211
    @thiagorodrigues5211 10 місяців тому +1

    last one was way more intense than all dogfights from modern jets. No wonder people still like dogfights in movies so much

  • @jasonanalco542
    @jasonanalco542 10 місяців тому +6

    Please do Japan's heavy hitters vs Whistling Death. The F-4U Corsair. Thank you for another excellent bit of content

    • @oborozukiyo73
      @oborozukiyo73 10 місяців тому

      Japan's heavy hitters vs P-51 Mustang; would be epic DCS' P-51 model already looks like those flying from Iwo Jima, just bristling with dorsal & chin antennae... Would love to see how the Mustang stacks up against the K-100, Hayate & Shiden

  • @j.s.unknkown7870
    @j.s.unknkown7870 10 місяців тому +4

    Been loving your content a lot lately! Keep up the good work ❤

  • @ianpopp87
    @ianpopp87 10 місяців тому +1

    MAN that's a tough fight. You did an admirable job. Love your vids man, keep being awesome.

  • @timsullivan4566
    @timsullivan4566 10 місяців тому +1

    I just LOVE these WWII fights! Thanh you.

  • @slimycheerio4026
    @slimycheerio4026 10 місяців тому +4

    Yooo love seeing the Ww2 dogfights!!!!!!!

  • @patrickwilliment2462
    @patrickwilliment2462 10 місяців тому +6

    Keep the WW2 content....much more exciting than shooting a missile from 912 miles away

  • @zacsawesomeworld2767
    @zacsawesomeworld2767 10 місяців тому +5

    I’m loving this ww2 content.

  • @The_Ren
    @The_Ren 10 місяців тому +1

    You have to get the Spitfire in these WWII battles. Love these dogfights. Reminds me of my old MS Combat Flight Sim days.

  • @jdrmd1
    @jdrmd1 10 місяців тому +2

    Much respect GS!!!!! You are a great pilot, a great youtuber and have the best attitude....Thanks for showing me I'm not the only one that gets beat by the me 109....I am not in your league but glad to see you have to work hard for the kill...Keep the great content coming!!!!

  • @gjoinolywa5850
    @gjoinolywa5850 10 місяців тому +1

    Most competitive fight I’ve seen on GS channel. Fun to watch. Too often you just crush your opponent. Fun to see you sweat!

  • @JRGProjects
    @JRGProjects 10 місяців тому +1

    Pilots in WW2 never got into turning fights with the BF and ME 109s. They always went vertical and powered up like you did toward the end of round two.

  • @kentwilliams3326
    @kentwilliams3326 3 місяці тому

    OUTSTANDING! Thanks, was a cliff hanger for sure. Forgot to breath...

  • @gerrit85100
    @gerrit85100 10 місяців тому

    Cool video! Especially the second dogfight! Loved it!

  • @shadekerensky3691
    @shadekerensky3691 10 місяців тому +2

    Would love to see the Me-262 vs. the Mig-15

  • @hariszark7396
    @hariszark7396 10 місяців тому +3

    I would really like to see 2 vs 2 or 4 vs 4 WWII fights.
    Those really can have much more realism and challenges than just 1 vs 1 fights.

    • @dscott6629
      @dscott6629 10 місяців тому

      A 4v4+ would be cool as it would bring tactics into play but I'm guessing bringing in other quality gamers into the mix would also bring in additional scheduling issues.

    • @hariszark7396
      @hariszark7396 10 місяців тому +1

      @@dscott6629 nothing that can't be arranged I bet.

  • @unixfool
    @unixfool 10 місяців тому +1

    YASSSS!!
    I'd asked if you could show a similar fight as your last, but with you piloting the P-51 and you delivered!

  • @nathanrawling4353
    @nathanrawling4353 10 місяців тому +1

    One of the best you've done. Well done to you sir

  • @fedo18
    @fedo18 10 місяців тому

    I love how you can fly and explain the situation at the same time

  • @LazyShoby
    @LazyShoby 10 місяців тому

    "He'd got my 6" at 7:08 .. lolz

  • @ThunderBatGames
    @ThunderBatGames 10 місяців тому +2

    MORE WARBIRDS! You should do some more IL-2 while you're at it, and bring some love to Great Battles!

  • @donutdefender2693
    @donutdefender2693 10 місяців тому

    I was actually on the edge of my seat for the whole vid! Great fights!

  • @samcy9551
    @samcy9551 10 місяців тому

    good going GS so refreshing to see WW2 dogfights.

  • @allenarneson4349
    @allenarneson4349 10 місяців тому +2

    GS - According to the movie Redtails - I think if you kill the throttle, pull hard on the stick with full rudder the Mustang will stall and the prop will pull you around quickly. I remember seeing that on the movie and again a pilot from WW2 (The Blue Nosed Bastards of Botany) described the same maneuver. Maybe try that when the K4 is on your tail.

  • @Falckodotcom
    @Falckodotcom 10 місяців тому +1

    Absolutly amazing dogfight!
    I could listen to the external shots all day long, the raw engine noises combined with the guns ... doesn't get any better than that!

  • @sivaro1
    @sivaro1 2 місяці тому

    You really made the P 51 dance.

  • @mochieiineko72
    @mochieiineko72 10 місяців тому +2

    Always a good day when GS uploads

  • @piedpiper4450
    @piedpiper4450 10 місяців тому

    i love your channel man amazing content! also more 109 related content please its amazing to watch you fight 109s or fight in em. you make it look so easy.

  • @hariszark7396
    @hariszark7396 10 місяців тому +2

    10:50 here is the advantage of wing guns against nose guns.
    You can take some distant hard shots way easier because of the bullets spread.

  • @pr0skis
    @pr0skis 10 місяців тому +6

    Hey GS since you're doing WWII dogfights would it be possible to see some 2v2 fights? would be real interesting... and spicy 😃

  • @donakahorse
    @donakahorse 10 місяців тому +1

    awesome, thank you, I wanted to see this. Toxic is a great pilot, well done both of you

  • @icaleinns6233
    @icaleinns6233 10 місяців тому

    Always fun to watch the WW2 fights as well as F-22 mission videos.

  • @manzelli1981
    @manzelli1981 10 місяців тому

    1:32 Always loved the howl from Merlin engines

  • @bobjones6154
    @bobjones6154 10 місяців тому

    dude what a fight! that was legit really cool.

  • @torariders313
    @torariders313 10 місяців тому +1

    but but but the P-51 is the greatest WW2 fighter.... hahaha! Epic video man!

  • @thepsychoticone615
    @thepsychoticone615 10 місяців тому

    awwww look He is going through his World War two phase again

  • @davidhermosilla6942
    @davidhermosilla6942 10 місяців тому

    I truly thank you for these p51 K4 duels. I have been flying years ww2 fighters and the k4 is actually impossible to defeat. Average pilots on this plane throw me off the sky with no effort. I keep my hopes high in practice and practice. I watch these videos over and over till get every single tip you put on them. Thanks and please more!

  • @SnaketheJake87
    @SnaketheJake87 10 місяців тому

    Thank you kindly

  • @babouras123
    @babouras123 10 місяців тому +1

    It's amazing to see the amount of punishment these old machines could take before falling!

  • @noodles12321
    @noodles12321 10 місяців тому +1

    2 of some of the coolest planes

  • @j.s.unknkown7870
    @j.s.unknkown7870 10 місяців тому

    The howling of those aircraft is really satisfying

  • @HeatMyShorts
    @HeatMyShorts 10 місяців тому +1

    Awesome. Well done! I dont think it was luck on the second round. He made an error by reversing his turn and you seized an opportunity. That first round was tense!!

  • @mitchr752
    @mitchr752 10 місяців тому

    That was intense.... great vid

  • @egapnee5619
    @egapnee5619 10 місяців тому +1

    I really like those WW2 fights, I whish DCS could develop more in that direction.

  • @craigwycinsky3889
    @craigwycinsky3889 7 місяців тому

    Love the paint job on the P-51. ❤

  • @danilomiranda9175
    @danilomiranda9175 10 місяців тому +1

    Very great video mate. Grate fights. If i can give you a suggestion, try to use little or no aileron imputs while using the rudder at low speeds. This will help uou to avoid entering a spin

  • @SliceofLife7777
    @SliceofLife7777 9 місяців тому

    Kurt Tank's Butcher Bird was Germany's best piston fighter. Later models, (primarily the Dora) addressed the earlier models lack of high altitude performance. And I suggest that the M and N models of the P47 were America's best fighter in the European theater.

  • @dairyqueenshake6719
    @dairyqueenshake6719 9 місяців тому

    I liked the shooting during the merge engagement at 6:10 because I felt like it sort of fit the context and it was something different, plus it looked cool.

  • @poloptree2
    @poloptree2 10 місяців тому +1

    Love the ww2 stuff. Always great to see the 'knife fight' like you called it

  • @Thpossamai
    @Thpossamai 10 місяців тому

    Dcs does an amazing job replicating ww2 dogfights

  • @firstchevalier
    @firstchevalier 10 місяців тому

    Another 1-1 in a great pair of fights. I really want to see best out of three, especially when the fights are this good please.

  • @SilverbladeDagger
    @SilverbladeDagger 10 місяців тому

    "Ah, he's on my six" and as The Mighty Jingles would say, "Here comes the unexpected butt secks". 🤣

  • @juaniravaioli
    @juaniravaioli 9 місяців тому

    THESE WW2 VIDEOS ARE AWESOME

  • @lucasbourne36
    @lucasbourne36 10 місяців тому +1

    Love the ww2 content man ! Keep it up

  • @Chimla
    @Chimla 10 місяців тому +2

    yes i love this, please keep up the WW2 content!!

  • @ArcaneActual
    @ArcaneActual 10 місяців тому +3

    I dont know if I missed the video already but i would love to see a merge with helis. AH64 v KA50 or others

  • @taylorious1693
    @taylorious1693 10 місяців тому

    11:38 "P51!!! CADILLAC OF THE SKIES!!!"

  • @James_T_Kirk_1701
    @James_T_Kirk_1701 10 місяців тому

    Finally! some warbird content

  • @AviationPlus
    @AviationPlus 10 місяців тому

    Now this is a relevant BFM video.

  • @davidakes8892
    @davidakes8892 10 місяців тому +2

    I always thought the P 51 was superior , nice video

    • @GM-fh5jp
      @GM-fh5jp 10 місяців тому

      It is...when flown correctly...

  • @thickoc4539
    @thickoc4539 10 місяців тому

    Prop planes!! Love these up close and personal videos. Like a knife fight with air planes. Sure hope to see some zeros shot down in the future

  • @SootHead
    @SootHead 10 місяців тому

    YOU EARNED THAT ONE!

  • @fikipilot
    @fikipilot 10 місяців тому

    Beautiful BEAUTIFUL

  • @gabrielcox3599
    @gabrielcox3599 10 місяців тому +1

    What version of the p51 is that? You give the 109 but not the 51. Love your vids!!

  • @rafiandapura8965
    @rafiandapura8965 10 місяців тому

    I reckon Toxic’s one of two players that could truly give GS a run for his money, the other one obv being LS😂 awesome fight either way. You the man GS!

  • @lennyprestia4231
    @lennyprestia4231 10 місяців тому

    That was awesome. Can’t wait for the F4U to come out and do the 109 vs the Corsair

  • @IM2a1
    @IM2a1 10 місяців тому

    I didn't realise that Bf-109 was so good. Thanks for the video.

    • @YuFow
      @YuFow 10 місяців тому +1

      It was the pilot who made it look that good. The 109 actually had a slower turn rate than the p51

    • @Keckegenkai
      @Keckegenkai 10 місяців тому

      @@YuFow but the pilot is still limited to what he got

    • @YuFow
      @YuFow 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Keckegenkai oh for sure, but the pilot is probably as bigger factor as the plane itself

  • @TheRaptorXX
    @TheRaptorXX 10 місяців тому

    MORE! MORE!! LOVE it...

  • @Uselessnoobcow
    @Uselessnoobcow 10 місяців тому

    WW2 dogfights rock!

  • @fabricio-agrippa-zarate1000
    @fabricio-agrippa-zarate1000 28 днів тому

    "lots of oil leaking out"
    Human oils 😂

  • @Vanessaira-Retro
    @Vanessaira-Retro 10 місяців тому

    When that Battlefield Theme kicks in!

  • @Barry287
    @Barry287 10 місяців тому

    I used to fly with Toxic in ACG. He's always been one helluva 109 pilot!!!

  • @mikes8948
    @mikes8948 10 місяців тому +3

    Love the WWII stuff...any chance of F4U Corsair or F6F Hellcat fights?

  • @jamesmaddison4546
    @jamesmaddison4546 10 місяців тому

    Beautiful move around 2mins in. I cant remember his name but he wrote that manual and was known for saying give me 30seconds and ill have a guy off my 6 and Infront of me, in that manual he had that move broke down step by step.
    You executed it perfectly

    • @RaptorMaitre
      @RaptorMaitre 10 місяців тому

      I think that was a High Yoyo.

  • @somewhereinagalaxyfarfaraway
    @somewhereinagalaxyfarfaraway 10 місяців тому +1

    At this point I would watch you hand fly paper airplane scenarios man! Your videos are excellent and exceeded only by your skills as a civilian sim pilot.

  • @Subcleff
    @Subcleff 10 місяців тому

    Damn, the second round was a good fight!

  • @mattt525
    @mattt525 10 місяців тому

    Here for the algorithm my mans

  • @Honu-up3ou
    @Honu-up3ou 10 місяців тому

    Yes, more WWII videos!

  • @filippofior3722
    @filippofior3722 10 місяців тому

    always nice to see some WII fighters. Would love to see an Mc-205

  • @rotj4587
    @rotj4587 10 місяців тому

    Well this is news to me.
    I thought as soon as the 51D turned up all Jerry fighters except 262s were toast.
    Read a great 51 fighter pilot autobiography years ago, 1 tactical thing impressed on me was that they always engaged ideally with a wingman.

  • @DiamantisGR
    @DiamantisGR 10 місяців тому

    Nice fight. It would be great to see more WW2 era fights. Perhaps even larger scale.

  • @stevecaponio4484
    @stevecaponio4484 10 місяців тому

    Damn, blood pumper right there