@@aceclover758 make Panik’s monsters illusion monsters, and make it so that if the castle is out, they can destroy things in battle. Give them a field spell that’s treated as “Yami” and let them avoid interaction while yami is up.
I like how Konami tried to make the King Pumpkin and the Castle of Dark Illusion works together, despite them not being used by the same person in the anime... and like.... the stat increase in the anime is the pumpkin's effect....
I almost guarantee that Pumpking will get a retrain at some point. It's from one of the last unexplored Duelist Kingdom duels and a pretty iconic one at that.
The problem youtubers run into is when they do intros they get “I prefer when creators cut the nonsense intros and get straight into the video!” and when they cut the intros they get comments like these. There’s no pleasing everybody so they ultimately have to do whatever they personally prefer.
@@SwoleTommyPickles The solution then is for commentors to stop directing requests at the youtuber and focus on trying to shoot the other side down. That way the channel owner has less pressure to make their own decision.
9:28 Honestly they could go with the Army theme and add another monster called Goblin Shield Force, which has ludicrous high defense and the special ability that when it's on the field all attacks are directed at said monster, allowing it to protect the Attack Forces when they are vulnerable.
Machine King might already been in progress some. Clockwork Night (the continuous spell) does make all monsters on the field machines and has a search effect for Earth Machines when banished from the GY (which the Machine Kings are). Additionally, the new link monster, Clockwork Knight searches out the continuous spell. If you look at Clockwork Knight's design, there are several parts of that monster's design that mirrors Robotic Knight's design: the green gem on the chest, the gold pauldrons with the red gem ontop of the shoulders, silver head with the gold face guard, to name a few.
Machine Kings design was just so COOL that as a kid I played him at 3 in old video games and recess meta. 3 Vanilla monsters mentioned him in their card text!!! That hype alone deserves some retrain love. Unfortunately hes a prime example of a card that could’ve been good but never saw use because of Summoned Skull and Jinzo. Alternatively Perfect machine kings design isn’t AS cool as machine king but he had the effect Machine King should’ve had. Perfect King should’ve been able to resurrect a fallen machine with a lower level than it AND gain ATK (maybe some hard OPT card effect immunity when there are other machines face up or a built in DNA Surgery effect. Anything that would be able to justify its level 8 2700 atk base stats.)
They would have to be careful with the Goblin Attack retrains. So the Goblin Bikers are actually also generic Goblin support. For example, Goblin Bikers Gone Wild summons a "Goblin" not just a "Goblin Biker." Right now there are builds that go into Scrap Goblin to do synchro plays, but if there were another good Goblin archetype, it could be bridged as well.
Yeah, giving the similarities with the Battle Pyramid archetype, it'd be nice to have mixed them together and done something cool with Thalia and ...the other guy (name I forgot). It's kind of a shame too cause they are pretty powerful, just clunky to summon and that's really the only thing holding them back. But gosh I just love thier designs honestly.
@@MarioMastarI’m messing in MD a lil with the new Continuous Trap support and Pyramid of Light, hasn’t come up yet as it’s in a 60 card deck but when it does i’m hoping it cooks
Pumpking could get its own archetype that utilizes pumpkin counters and Call of the Haunted. We could get retrains of Armored Zombie, Clown Zombie, Dragon Zombie, Great Mammoth of Goldfine, The Snake Hair, and Pumpking. Pumprincess could get support with this archetype.
I don't even know why Konami tied Castle of Dark Illusions and Pumpking the King of Ghosts together. Player Killer and Ghost Kotsuzuka have no interaction with each other. Both can get a retrain that actually caters to their respective duelists' decks. An archetype build around Castle of Dark Illusions feature Dark Chimera, King of Yamimakai, Barox, Metal Guardian, Reaper of the Cards, and Yellow Luster Shield with effects accurate to the manga. And an archetype for Pumpking the King of Ghost featuring a new Call of the Hunated, Stop Defense, Snake Hairs, Zombie Dragon, Zombie Clown, Amored Zombie, and Golden Demon Elephant.
Goblin attack force artype maybe have high chance of retrain. Since konami have release Goblin Biker, hopefully retrain goblin attack force, the OG goblin monster.
Yeah goblin attack force absolutely will get an archetype at some point. It has so many stand alone cards that can be an “archetype”. They can do so many fun things with it too. 1) give them some sort of card that lets them swap their attack for their defense mode 2) maybe quick effect tribute goblin( whatever they’re called) to gain attack equal to tributes monster
With machine kings you could just make the loyal subjects into effect monsters that revolve around the machine king Maybe one of them helps protect your "machine king" from card effects and/or battle Another one can search for a "machine king" card from your deck and maybe special summon it or just put it into hand And the final one can maybe just buff your machine monsters further I'm not that creative but yeah Alternatively if you just want to make the current machine kings better to already have protection and such on the card You could just have it like this One special summons a machine king monster from the grave One special summons a machine king monster from the deck And one special summons machine king monster from the hand
The funniest thing is, is that Pumpking the King of Ghosts, Cyber Commander, Goblin Attack Force and even Machine King will surely eventually get a retrain & support because "DM nostalgia" . Cyber Commander was played by Tristan, Goblin Attack Force by Joey, Pumpking by Bonz (shoutouts to Duel Links) and even Machine King was played by Nezbitt and Bandit Keith 2:19 Even DuelLogs is aware this guy has chances of getting support 10:34 remember this card was played by joey. so it can always get nostalgia support 11:48 surprised this yugi mutou card hasn't gotten its own archetype
“Archetypes unlikely to ever get a retrai-“ (Sighs, then cracks knuckles) *_FINE, I’ll do it myself_* 0:01 _Blistering Beast_ (FIRE) Level 4 Pyro/Tuner/Union/Effect _Once per turn, you can either: Target 1 Monster you control; equip this card to that target, OR: Unequip this card and Special Summon it. If the equipped monster would be destroyed by battle or card effect, destroy this card instead. The equipped monster cannot be destroyed by battle by, and is unaffected by the effects of, opponent’s FIRE and Pyro monsters. If the equipped monster inflicts Battle Damage to your opponent, you can either destroy 1 Face-up card on the field, OR Special Summon 1 WATER Union monster from your hand or Deck._ ATK/1500 DEF/1000 _Blizard Beast_ (WATER) Level 4 Aqua/Tuner/Union/Effect _Once per turn, you can either: Target 1 Monster you control; equip this card to that target, OR: Unequip this card and Special Summon it. If the equipped monster would be destroyed by battle or card effect, destroy this card instead. The equipped monster cannot be destroyed by battle by, and is unaffected by the effects of, opponent’s WATER and Aqua monsters. If the equipped monster inflicts Battle Damage to your opponent, you can either destroy 1 Facedown card on the field, OR Special Summon 1 FIRE Union monster from your hand or Deck._ ATK/1500 DEF/1000 2:31 _Pumpking, the King of Dark Illusions_ (DARK) Level 10 Illusion/Flip/Tuner/Effect _FLIP: Special Summon 1 Monster from either player’s GY. When this card leaves the field, destroy that monster_ _If this card is Summoned, you can change its Original Type to Fiend or Zombie. If a Fiend, Zombie or Illusion monster you control battles a monster, neither can be destroyed by that battle. You take no battle damage from battles involving Fiend, Zombie and Illusion monsters you control. Once per phase, during both players turns, all monsters you control gain 300 ATK/DEF, and you gain LP equal to the gained ATK/DEF. During your Main Phase or your opponent's Battle Phase: You can Tribute 1 Spell/Trap from your hand or Field; immediately after this effect resolves, Normal Summon/Set 1 Fiend, Illusion or Zombie monster._ ATK/2720 DEF/3930 5:42 _Pyramid of The Sphinxes_ Field Spell _This card’s name is always treated as “Pyramid of Light”. Unaffected by card effects while you control a Face-up “Sphinx” monster. During your Main Phase, You can Normal Summon/Set up to 2 “Sphinx” monsters per turn, in addition to your normal summon/set. (You can only gain this effect once per turn.) Each time you Summon a “Sphinx” monster(s), you can add 1 card to your hand (from your Deck or GY) that mentions “Sphinx” in its name or text. During the Damage Step only, “Sphinx” monsters you control that are battling gain ATK equal to their Original DEF, and DEF equal to their original ATK._ 7:55 _Goblin Biker Attack Force!_ (EARTH) Level 4 Warrior/Effect _Can only be Summoned/Set while you have less LP than your opponent, and/or you control 2 or more Face-up “Goblin” monsters. “Goblin” monsters you control can make additional attacks per battle phase equal to the number of Face-up “Goblin” monsters you control. If a “Goblin” monster you control attacks a Defense Position monster, inflict piercing battle damage. If a “Goblin”. monster(s) you control inflict battle damage while you controlled this Face-up card this turn, it is changed to Defense Position at the end of the Battle Phase, and its battle position cannot be changed until the End Phase of your next turn._ ATK/2300 DEF/0 13:15 _Cyber/Cyberse Commander_ (DARK) Level 2 Pendulum Scales: 7 _If you Summon a Machine or Cyberse monster, you can Increase or Decrease this cards Pendulum Scales by up the the Levels/Ranks/Links of that Monster(s). Machine and Cyberse monsters you who’s Level is higher than this card’s Pendulum Scales can be Normal Summoned without Tributing. During your Main Phase, you can Normal Summon 1 Machine and/or Cyberse monster each, whose Level is less than this card’s Pendulum Scales, in addition to your Normal Summon/Set. (You can only gain this effect once per turn.)_ Machine/Pendulum/Tuner/Effect _If you Control a Machine or Cyberse monster that was first Special Summoned from your Extra Deck (Quick Effect); You can Special Summon this card from your hand or Pendulum Zones. If this card is Summoned, you can change its Original Type to Cyberse. If you Summon a Machine or Cyberse monster(s), you can Increase or Decrease this cards Level by up to the Levels/Ranks/Links of that Monster(s). If this card you control is used as Tribute or Material for the Summon of a Machine or Cyberse monster, you can treat it as a non-Tuner._ ATK/750 DEF/750 23:42 _Machine Emeperor_ (EARTH) Level 12 Machine/Effect _Requires 3 Machine Tributes to Normal Summon (cannot be Normal Set). Can only be Special Summoned by the effects of a Machine monster, or a Spell/Trap that mentions “Machine” in its name or text. Cards you control cannot be destroyed by battle by, and are unaffected by the effects of, opponents Machine monsters. Machine monsters you control gain 500 ATK/DEF for each Face-up Machine monster on the field. During either players Main Phase or Battle Phase: You can pay LP equal to the total ATK/DEF of 1 Machine monster you control (Min. 500); immediately after this effect resolves, Normal Summon/Set 1 Machine monster. If this card, or another Machine monster(s), leaves the field; You can add 1 “Machine” Spell/Trap to your hand from your Deck._ ATK/4400 DEF/4400 16:15 _Archfiend’s Berserk Dragon_ (DARK) Level 8 Zombie/Effect _Cannot be Normal Summoned/Set. Must first be Special Summoned by its own effect. If your Opponent Banishes or sends to the GY a Level/Rank/Link 6 or Higher monster(s) from your hand, field and/or Extra Deck (Quick Effect): You can Special Summon this card from your hand, Deck, GY or Banishment. You can only Special Summon 1 “Archfiend’s Berserk Dragon” per turn by this effect. Can attack all monsters your opponent controls once each. All monsters your opponent controls must attack this card if able. During each of your End Phases, if this card didn’t battle during this turn or last turn, it loses 500 ATK. If this card’s ATK becomes 0: Destroy it._ ATK/3500 DEF/0
a PSCT suggestion for the last line of "Pyramid of The Sphinxes" - If a "Sphinx" monster you control battles: that monster's ATK/DEF become equal to it's combined ATK/DEF during the Damage Step only. also, thank you for designing it in a way that also helps Exxod Sphinx strats
All i really want is new support for the Jurrac archetype, those little fellas deserve it. They have one of my favorite arts, i mean flaming dinos that grow big, and NOT just a 40 card combo that locks the opponent out of the game? heck yes. would probably be a lot of work to give them seperate support from other dino support, but i can hope! Cool video, the froozing/burning and Pyramid of light cards could be very interesting!
Perfect Machine King is even better in Reshef of Destruction, than in the real card game. Gaining 1.000 Attack & Defense for every Machine Type monster on the field, including itself, is at the very least a much better effect.
Pumpking is the card I want a modern archetype of the most, or just a Bonz archetype in general. My other faves were flame swordsman, relinquished and gate guardian
Yeah, Bonz really deserves more respect than he got. He's the only one who was killed off and actually stayed dead despite being an unlucky child with a face defect that probably was a victim of severe bullying. Even in Duel links he questions why he's suddenly alive again, and if they can give Rex Raptor's two headed dragon some new cards (and mighty fine ones as well), they can throw Bonz something. I feel like Pumpking was WAY over balanced for the time, but the idea of protecting a monster to make it stronger in conjunction with the nature of zombie decks could lead to some really cool modern strats.
I want to see a retrain of Super Roboyarou/ Super Robolady. A neat fusion archetype that can swap out with eachother in the ED. Could make an even more fun one where its a full ED summoning mechanic group that you swap between to get the one you need.
I'll never forgive them for errataing Infernalqueen - the +1000 attack per round buff she gave used to be permanent and stack with itself as long as she stays on the field. The DRV reprint and onward makes it only last until the end of the turn.
Goat format facilitates an "Orks & Goblins" deck. Stuff your deck with Goblin attack forces and Giant orcs, and any other high-attack monster with a drawback, then either use Final Attack order or Skill Drain to negate the said drawbacks.
Yeah I feel the Attack force cards still have a niche given the things you can do with them after they attack and they could work as a quick surprise 2K attacker in a pinch. Though I'm a duel links player so I mostly see value in the potential cards have assuming you survive past the 3rd turn and Duel links generally allows people to be more creative. Alas I think they're probably on this list because they don't have to be retrained.... the game has enough power creep as it is (coughLinkmonsterscough) and could use the pace being slowed down a bit to where battle effects actually matter again.
A chess-themed archetype has literal novels worth of concepts it could draw from, but they decided to tie it to the archfiends and their long abandoned LP costs for some reason. Mechanically, they're closer to monopoly than chess.
I wanted to repurpose them into a fanmade archetype with actual chess gimmicks, but the fuckers have very few support cards to mimic strategies and rules.
That episode of the anime with Bonz using pumpking is still one of my favorite duels in the original season. Was so dissappointed that pumpking didnt have a similar effect to buff up zombies in the tcg. Would love a retrain of Pumpking to actually he a really good support piece for zombies.
At least one of the attack force Goblins are featured in Trap Hole, which has seen big useage with Traptrixs. so maybe play into the bad luck the goblins keep getting into via a retrain that makes them into hosts for the traptrix girls? would make for a very unique (and super spooky) combination; call the main card “Traptrix Host Attack Force”, and it’s just the goblins covered in vines and thorns and stuff, and the girls essentially puppeting them while feeding on them.
There's a ton of old archetype ideas that could've been modernized easily with some good erratas and support that Konami just.....forgot about...which is the biggest shame. Stil upset they never bothered to finish the Neo Spacians and it would've been WAY easier for them to just make Ritual monsters go in the extra deck instead of requiring us to play Nekroz to get any use out of them.....
As someone from the area, pronouncing it as "Sell-tick" instead of "Kell-tick" makes me think of the Boston Celtics, so now Celtic Guardian is the Boston Celtic Guardian.
Odd it'd be mispronounced given they literally always pronounced it "Kell-tick" in the show, but I guess if you grew up with the basketball team you'd probably read faster than you hear it.
I know the D/D/D archetype already kind of goes into that direction, but I would love a "deal with the devil" based archetype based on Ha Des on something new. It could work by having cards with powerful effects, but great costs, which you can force onto your opponent, except for them the benefit might be questionable or even useless. (like for example a card which gives a powerful buff to link monsters, which is great for you, but your opponent might rely on Xyz). Or, what I think would be even cooler, you know how both players can use each other's field spell's effect, which rarely comes up? What if your entire deck has cards which your opponent is allowed to use as well, but if they do, it generates resources that benefit you and you have ways to greatly capitalize on these resources and ways to prevent your opponent from actually gaining advantage. Like, just an example, imagine you have a field spell which collects counters and uses them to protect itself (like in the Endymion archetype). Then you have another card which allows you, once per turn, to pay a bit of lifepoints to add a monster card from your GY to your hand, which is a powerful effect. Whenever this effect is used a counter is generated and added to your field spell. Your opponent can use this effect as well, but it also generates a counter for you. Then you have different cards with effects that scale off the number of counters you have, or remove them as a cost for powerful effects (like spell counters). Also you have ways to jinx your opponent's use of your cards. Like maybe a trap card that says "if your opponent adds a monster card from their GY to their hand, then monsters with that card's name cannot be summoned or special summoned and cannot activate their effects this turn." so you got to use that effect, you added a card from your GY to your hand, but the devilish twist is that it completely useless this turn.
The adjective retrains just sound like we're adding MTG keywords to cards and im here for it. maybe s/t's that give normal monsters Obnoxious/Swift/Enraged and extra deck monsters that need specific adjectives to be tributed.
Would be interesting to see Freezing Beast and Burning Beast a Fusion card, either level 6 or 8, that combines their stats(3000 attack, 2000 defense) and give them some fairly good effects involving other Union monsters or something.
An idea for a Dark Scorpion Retrain could be a Battle Focused deck that pilfers cards from your opponent, like how Grave Robber works. Something like upon successfully dealing LP damage reveal the top/bottom card of your opponent's deck and either send it to the GY *_or_* use the card for yourself. If it's a monster you may summon it to your field in defense position, Use a spell effect, Set a Trap, ETC. Naturally there'd have to be some kind of restriction, but it would allow these comically competent crooks to retain their unique flavor of milling or messing with your opponent.
An archetype that I personally like, and hope gets a retrain is the Iron Chain cards, an archetype that was introduced at the beginning of 5Ds, and was a victim of its time. Much like many cards that were introduced, it didn't really have a united theme besides the name. Some had burn effects, others could search, but it wasn't very good. If they retrained it, I could see it being tied to the chaining mechanic of Yugioh. The higher the chain the more powerful the effects you could use. An effect at chains 2, 3, and 4 with different effects. And the boss monster could change the entire order of the events in a chain so opponent cards could miss timing, and your cards could activate sooner. I know this is a very small possibility, but heres hoping.
Pumpking is one of those cards that have zero excuse for not already having a retrain. Its current effect is so out of touch with its anime effect. The two cards aren't even from the same duel/duelist, they're unrelated. Plus the duelist (PaniK) that used Castle of Dark Illusions didn't even use zombies, he played fiends with the Castle creating a dark mist to hide their stats so if anything it should be one of those flip support cards that reset and shuffle your monsters.
A retrain of Raphael's Guardian monsters would be good. Give them all Eatos' summoning condition and merge the equip spell with the monster eg: Guardian Grarl - Gravity Axe 3000/1500 If you have no monsters in your GY, you can special summon this card from your Hand. Monsters your opponent control cannot change their battle position. Maybe throw in some additional effects for each monster, but you could make a really good archetype by retraining Raphael's guardian cards and include support that have benefits for keeping monsters out of the GY.
There are many cards I always wanted to get support or a retrain of: Aitsu & Koitsu. Pikeru & Curran. Roboyarou & Robolady. Muka Muka & Hane-Hane. Crab Turtle.
“Red-Eyes Prince, Prince of Ghosts” Level 7 Zombie/effect ATK: 2400 DEF: 2000 If you control a “Pumpking, King of Ghosts” or “Pumprincess, Princess of Ghosts” you may special summon this card from your hand. If a monster effect would activate during your Standby Phase, those effects activate an additional time. Just a bad idea given I have no idea of this would work, but I feel that fits with Red-Eyes
Maybe a retrain of Pumpking that negates the effects of all monsters that had their stats reduced. And if either of their stats hit zero, they're banished.
15:10, wait why is cyber commander a 'tough sell' for the US market? Aren't we talking about the western country infamous for having public gun carries, being able to buy shotguns and rifles in retail stores and everyone talking bout' their 2nd amendment rights? So why do guns need to be censored in a country that is absolutely crazy about them????
I see what Mr duel logs is doing. He knows if he makes a video like this, these cards will get support later. Some sooner then others. Very sneaky Mr duel logs.
Honestly forget competitive cause frankly modern Yugioh is just power creep soup (literally most archetypes even modern ones are useless cause they "can't beat Tears") They need to just use thier ban list better and stop printing overpowered cards that literally do what a former banned card did but somehow far worse AND with tempo.... Fortunately Duel links knows how to put a lid on rediculous strats and let us actually have a chance of winning wtih some of our favorite archetypes, not just everyone use Tears or Sprights and prevent your opponent from playing the game and acting like that's peak yugioh....
12:16 Ideas to retrain these cards some more: _Bloodbath Battle Ox_ (EARTH) Level 4 Beast-Warrior/Effect _If a Beast, Beast-Warrior, or Winged Beast monster(s) you control either Destroy a monster(s) by battle, are Destroyed by battle, or directly attack your opponent (Quick Effect); You can Special Summon this card from your hand or GY. If a Beast, Beast-Warrior or Winged Beast monster you control destroys an Opponent’s monster by battle, it gains ATK/DEF equal to the total ATK/DEF that monster had while it was on the field. If a Beast, Beast-Warrior or Winged Beast monster you control attacks and Destroys an opponent’s monster by battle, it can attack again in a row. If this card leaves the field, you can Special Summon 1 “Battle Ox” monster from your hand or Deck, except “Bloodbath Battle Ox.”_ ATK/1700 DEF/1000 _Stalwart Celtic Guard_ (EARTH) Level 4 Warrior/Effect _If you would take any amount of Battle or Effect damage (Quick Effect); You can Special Summon this card from your hand, and if you do, reduce this card’s ATK and/or DEF by equal to that damage you would take. Cannot be destroyed by Battle or card effects. If you would take any Battle or Effect damage while you control this Face-up card: Reduce this card’s ATK and/or DEF by that much instead. If this card’s total ATK/DEF becomes 0; Destroy this card. During the End Phase of each turn, if this card’s total ATK/DEF has been reduced by it’s own effect this turn; double its ATK/DEF._ ATK/1500 DEF/1500 _Loyal Gaia the Fierce Knight_ (DARK) Level 7 Warrior/Effect _While you control "Shining Sarcophagus", you can Normal Summon this card without Tributing. Your opponent cannot Target monsters you control for attacks or card effects, except “Loyal Gaia the Fierce Knight”. If a card that has “Shining Sarcophagus” in its name or text would leave the field (Quick Effect); You can Destroy this card instead. If this card inflicts Battle Damage to your opponent, or leaves the field while you control “Shining Sarcophagus” ; You can Special Summon 1 monster from your hand that mentions “Shining Sarcophagus”_ ATK/2300 DEF/2000
I remember Freezing Beast, Burning Beast and Protective Soul Alain being my first ever union monsters. I never understood Union monster as a kid. I only knew about them from the anime watching Kaiba and Chazz use the XYZ monsters. Nonetheless I really liked them and had hoped we’d see more from them
making a chess-themed mini-archetypes gimmick revolve around dice rolls is just bizarre. one of the most notable aspects of chess is that it has no RNG of any kind. did they just do it because dice are square, and chess also has squares...?
I honestly can't believe we've never gotten a PaniK deck retrain. They had some of the best art and great episodes that everyone liked as far as I know.
I'd have liked a gimmicky variant of Swords of Revealing light that works like how Yugi somehow used it against Panik. where if you use the card, All monsters on your opponent's field except the monster with the highest attack has immunity to battle for 3 turns but on the endphase of the third turn, destroy all monsters on the field. Monsters can't be tributed or removed from the field while this card is in effect though. So you protect your opponent's monsters for 3 turns, only to raigeki them and force them to waste a spell destruction to free their monsters so they can tribute them or protect them from the Raigeki effect, but they can then be damaged. Something like that would be cool. Kind of like the "Attack the Moon" card which is also a card based on Yugi's antics. Heck it'd be really funny if for every time a character cheated in Duel Monsters, they printed a card that somehow lets you do that. Like "If you summon Great Moth or Perfectly Ultimate Great moth, spread poison on the opponent's monsters that cuts thier attack in half" and even one referencing the infamous Kaiba gambit....although frankly that card already exists...it's called Soul relay.
Never say "Never" I mean, Konami made retrains out of forgotten vanilla garbage monsters (some of them were OCG only btw) with the Memento archtype, so we'll never know
Freezing Beast & Burning Beast: (0:00) Pumpking the King of Ghosts: (2:20) Pyramid of Light: (5:42) Goblin Attack Force: (7:55) Adjective Retrains: (10:41) Cyber Commander: (13:15) Berserk Dragon: (15:54) are not even archtypes they are just cards mention each other, without deck it just set of cards add, not an archtype and what make them bad that they require specefic card however they still can be meta or at least a playable deck, for example, "Hungry Burger"
Id love see a retrain of dark master zorc and diaboubd kernel. With zorc being the big bad of the final season and diabound having a lot of screen time, having them bundled together to make a zorc ritual deck would be cool
I would love to finally have a centerpiece to my Goblin-Boblin deck which is just a pile of card that either say the word "goblin" or have one in the artwork
25:13 except himself. Same as proto. But the original machine king gains the 100 off of himself. Anyhow, that's just tiny knit-picking. This was a really fun video to watch. Thank you for this :)
I think if the Goblin cards split into tokens you could use for link summons in main phase 2 after the battle phase they might be useful pretty easily.
I haven't watched the vid but I always thought its a travesty that the Archfiends mostly Summoned Skull never got the love of Dark Magician and/or Blue Eyes. Even though those are not that meta but it still holds a place in ppls hearts and childhood and they get play and sometimes rogue status
Machine king is awesome but a bit sad as well, as E.M.R is a super rad card for the gundam esc feel of the archetype, but it relies on 'original' attack, I think if there was a card that gave them their boosts as 'original attack' when they leave the field or while on it we could see some interesting plays with it, not meta, but still fun!
There was a series of Level 7 Reptiles with mediocre stats that, when destroyed by battle, would destroy all monsters on the field not of their attribute. I think they would be easy retrains.
YOOO BERSERK DRAGON!!! I traded for that card when i was younger without reading it and then found out it needed a ritual to summon that I didn't own!!!
Cyber Commander archetype could always have an option effect to special summon a cyber commander from deck to fuse, synchro, or xyz into different cyber squads. Even a field spell Cyber Command Base. Konami would censor it so bad😅😂
I would say that the union mechanic itself did get a retrain think the zexal weapons in a utopia deck, or other decks that can equip monsters to monsters
The only one I don't think is gonna get future support is #5, the rest I could see Konami randomly supporting... They love rebooting old cards randomly. Which is not saying #5 is impossible, just unlikely.
I would love to see a dedicated "Goblin" archetype focused on swarming, more cards like Goblin Attack Force and maybe some goblin-themed Equip Spells, Traps and maybe even some Xyx monsters themed around getting more ATK and effects with more Goblins attached to it as material.
Machine King getting a proper archetype with Mechanical Chaser just sounds like it should invoke ‘Today I will remind them. Of the days Mechanical Chaser beat down was the objectively best level 4.’
After seeing the latest (as of posting) batches of retrains (P.U.N.K, Orcust, Dragonmaids, and (as of posting) the Dragon Rulers), I wouldn’t mind seeing any of the retrains mentioned in the video to actually happen.
Probably should add an Asterisk that says "excluding in Rush Duels." Because over there they have given things like give an Archetype to Graceful/Skull Dice and Legacy support for freaking *Sparks* of all things
In a way machineking support is already here. Clockwork Night, turns all monsters on the field to machines, and has an effect to search an earth machine monster. Clockwork Knight is pretty clearly a retrain of robotic knight with a few more cards, to flood the field with machines, they might have a coherent plan to rush out Perfect machine king
So bold of you to release this video during new card set reveal period lmao.
It almost seems like a challenge
What set reveal?
He's got balls, he's daring them to defy his ranking 😂
xD
@@MattiaMMMallaince insight reveals started this week
I’d love to see an archetype revolving around Pumpking and Castle of Dark illusions
What if we got a pumpking link monster who juices the stats of linked zombie monsters?
@enlongjones2394 and when co-linked with a Castle of DI, all cards (both monster and spell/ trap) are immune to monster effects.
And they could be actual illusion-type monsters.
@@aceclover758 make Panik’s monsters illusion monsters, and make it so that if the castle is out, they can destroy things in battle.
Give them a field spell that’s treated as “Yami” and let them avoid interaction while yami is up.
Pumpking, the undead king
Fortress of dark illusion
I like how Konami tried to make the King Pumpkin and the Castle of Dark Illusion works together, despite them not being used by the same person in the anime... and like.... the stat increase in the anime is the pumpkin's effect....
it almost looks like they forgot panik
I almost guarantee that Pumpking will get a retrain at some point. It's from one of the last unexplored Duelist Kingdom duels and a pretty iconic one at that.
It got. Called jack-o-bolan. It's the same monster lol
Please bring back the intros! They were charming and brought personality to these lists.
I agree, I'd prefer to have the intros
The problem youtubers run into is when they do intros they get “I prefer when creators cut the nonsense intros and get straight into the video!” and when they cut the intros they get comments like these. There’s no pleasing everybody so they ultimately have to do whatever they personally prefer.
@@SwoleTommyPickles I understand, I'm just stating my own preference.
@@SwoleTommyPickles The solution then is for commentors to stop directing requests at the youtuber and focus on trying to shoot the other side down. That way the channel owner has less pressure to make their own decision.
@@SwoleTommyPicklesI’ve never seen anyone say that
Bonz's zombies, paniks dark castle, Masked Beast and friends, Shinato and Reshef all deserve their own revamped strategies in my own opinion.
Yes, all characters have a deck, and can do be used for fun.
I've always wanted Lumis and Umbra's cards to be retrained and make the Mask cards an official archetype! 🤞
A panik retrain would be awesome based on the aesthetic... But the stat line of 30, 70s, and 10s would irritate me at locals 😂😂😂
As a child I always thought the burning beast was a giant red rock face. I find it hard to unsee it.
I still dont know what I am looking at
Bring intros back please. They ease me into the videos so well. Without it, it's like you're telling a bedtime story without giving me the title.
9:28 Honestly they could go with the Army theme and add another monster called Goblin Shield Force, which has ludicrous high defense and the special ability that when it's on the field all attacks are directed at said monster, allowing it to protect the Attack Forces when they are vulnerable.
Machine King might already been in progress some. Clockwork Night (the continuous spell) does make all monsters on the field machines and has a search effect for Earth Machines when banished from the GY (which the Machine Kings are). Additionally, the new link monster, Clockwork Knight searches out the continuous spell. If you look at Clockwork Knight's design, there are several parts of that monster's design that mirrors Robotic Knight's design: the green gem on the chest, the gold pauldrons with the red gem ontop of the shoulders, silver head with the gold face guard, to name a few.
Honestly Konami could go on to make even stronger versions of Machine King, lie Perfectly Ultimate Machine King or Supreme Machine King,
Machine Kings design was just so COOL that as a kid I played him at 3 in old video games and recess meta. 3 Vanilla monsters mentioned him in their card text!!! That hype alone deserves some retrain love. Unfortunately hes a prime example of a card that could’ve been good but never saw use because of Summoned Skull and Jinzo. Alternatively Perfect machine kings design isn’t AS cool as machine king but he had the effect Machine King should’ve had. Perfect King should’ve been able to resurrect a fallen machine with a lower level than it AND gain ATK (maybe some hard OPT card effect immunity when there are other machines face up or a built in DNA Surgery effect. Anything that would be able to justify its level 8 2700 atk base stats.)
Are you ready to came back to that video next year when they will annouced a retrain of one of the archetype present here ?
They would have to be careful with the Goblin Attack retrains. So the Goblin Bikers are actually also generic Goblin support. For example, Goblin Bikers Gone Wild summons a "Goblin" not just a "Goblin Biker." Right now there are builds that go into Scrap Goblin to do synchro plays, but if there were another good Goblin archetype, it could be bridged as well.
That's exactly what I was thinking. How would they make a Goblin archetype without including Goblin Riders and many other random goblin monsters
The only way I can think of is changing "Goblin Biker" to "Goblin-Biker"
I would like them to continue making more retrains of older cards that didn't see much play back in the day
Pyramid of Light would be an awesome archetype to get a retrain as a nod to the movie. That’s if Konami is willing to do so.
Yeah, giving the similarities with the Battle Pyramid archetype, it'd be nice to have mixed them together and done something cool with Thalia and ...the other guy (name I forgot). It's kind of a shame too cause they are pretty powerful, just clunky to summon and that's really the only thing holding them back. But gosh I just love thier designs honestly.
@@MarioMastarI’m messing in MD a lil with the new Continuous Trap support and Pyramid of Light, hasn’t come up yet as it’s in a 60 card deck but when it does i’m hoping it cooks
Pumpking could get its own archetype that utilizes pumpkin counters and Call of the Haunted. We could get retrains of Armored Zombie, Clown Zombie, Dragon Zombie, Great Mammoth of Goldfine, The Snake Hair, and Pumpking. Pumprincess could get support with this archetype.
I don't even know why Konami tied Castle of Dark Illusions and Pumpking the King of Ghosts together. Player Killer and Ghost Kotsuzuka have no interaction with each other.
Both can get a retrain that actually caters to their respective duelists' decks. An archetype build around Castle of Dark Illusions feature Dark Chimera, King of Yamimakai, Barox, Metal Guardian, Reaper of the Cards, and Yellow Luster Shield with effects accurate to the manga. And an archetype for Pumpking the King of Ghost featuring a new Call of the Hunated, Stop Defense, Snake Hairs, Zombie Dragon, Zombie Clown, Amored Zombie, and Golden Demon Elephant.
I love those Burning Beast and Freezing Beast cards, I occasionally kept them in my deck even though they were never useful in a Duel
Goblin attack force artype maybe have high chance of retrain. Since konami have release Goblin Biker, hopefully retrain goblin attack force, the OG goblin monster.
Yeah goblin attack force absolutely will get an archetype at some point. It has so many stand alone cards that can be an “archetype”. They can do so many fun things with it too.
1) give them some sort of card that lets them swap their attack for their defense mode
2) maybe quick effect tribute goblin( whatever they’re called) to gain attack equal to tributes monster
With machine kings you could just make the loyal subjects into effect monsters that revolve around the machine king
Maybe one of them helps protect your "machine king" from card effects and/or battle
Another one can search for a "machine king" card from your deck and maybe special summon it or just put it into hand
And the final one can maybe just buff your machine monsters further
I'm not that creative but yeah
Alternatively if you just want to make the current machine kings better to already have protection and such on the card
You could just have it like this
One special summons a machine king monster from the grave
One special summons a machine king monster from the deck
And one special summons machine king monster from the hand
The funniest thing is, is that Pumpking the King of Ghosts, Cyber Commander, Goblin Attack Force and even Machine King will surely eventually get a retrain & support because "DM nostalgia" .
Cyber Commander was played by Tristan, Goblin Attack Force by Joey, Pumpking by Bonz (shoutouts to Duel Links) and even Machine King was played by Nezbitt and Bandit Keith
2:19 Even DuelLogs is aware this guy has chances of getting support
10:34 remember this card was played by joey. so it can always get nostalgia support
11:48 surprised this yugi mutou card hasn't gotten its own archetype
“Archetypes unlikely to ever get a retrai-“ (Sighs, then cracks knuckles)
*_FINE, I’ll do it myself_*
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_Blistering Beast_ (FIRE)
Level 4
Pyro/Tuner/Union/Effect
_Once per turn, you can either: Target 1 Monster you control; equip this card to that target, OR: Unequip this card and Special Summon it. If the equipped monster would be destroyed by battle or card effect, destroy this card instead. The equipped monster cannot be destroyed by battle by, and is unaffected by the effects of, opponent’s FIRE and Pyro monsters. If the equipped monster inflicts Battle Damage to your opponent, you can either destroy 1 Face-up card on the field, OR Special Summon 1 WATER Union monster from your hand or Deck._
ATK/1500 DEF/1000
_Blizard Beast_ (WATER)
Level 4
Aqua/Tuner/Union/Effect
_Once per turn, you can either: Target 1 Monster you control; equip this card to that target, OR: Unequip this card and Special Summon it. If the equipped monster would be destroyed by battle or card effect, destroy this card instead. The equipped monster cannot be destroyed by battle by, and is unaffected by the effects of, opponent’s WATER and Aqua monsters. If the equipped monster inflicts Battle Damage to your opponent, you can either destroy 1 Facedown card on the field, OR Special Summon 1 FIRE Union monster from your hand or Deck._
ATK/1500 DEF/1000
2:31
_Pumpking, the King of Dark Illusions_ (DARK)
Level 10
Illusion/Flip/Tuner/Effect
_FLIP: Special Summon 1 Monster from either player’s GY. When this card leaves the field, destroy that monster_
_If this card is Summoned, you can change its Original Type to Fiend or Zombie. If a Fiend, Zombie or Illusion monster you control battles a monster, neither can be destroyed by that battle. You take no battle damage from battles involving Fiend, Zombie and Illusion monsters you control. Once per phase, during both players turns, all monsters you control gain 300 ATK/DEF, and you gain LP equal to the gained ATK/DEF. During your Main Phase or your opponent's Battle Phase: You can Tribute 1 Spell/Trap from your hand or Field; immediately after this effect resolves, Normal Summon/Set 1 Fiend, Illusion or Zombie monster._
ATK/2720 DEF/3930
5:42
_Pyramid of The Sphinxes_
Field Spell
_This card’s name is always treated as “Pyramid of Light”. Unaffected by card effects while you control a Face-up “Sphinx” monster. During your Main Phase, You can Normal Summon/Set up to 2 “Sphinx” monsters per turn, in addition to your normal summon/set. (You can only gain this effect once per turn.) Each time you Summon a “Sphinx” monster(s), you can add 1 card to your hand (from your Deck or GY) that mentions “Sphinx” in its name or text. During the Damage Step only, “Sphinx” monsters you control that are battling gain ATK equal to their Original DEF, and DEF equal to their original ATK._
7:55
_Goblin Biker Attack Force!_ (EARTH)
Level 4
Warrior/Effect
_Can only be Summoned/Set while you have less LP than your opponent, and/or you control 2 or more Face-up “Goblin” monsters. “Goblin” monsters you control can make additional attacks per battle phase equal to the number of Face-up “Goblin” monsters you control. If a “Goblin” monster you control attacks a Defense Position monster, inflict piercing battle damage. If a “Goblin”. monster(s) you control inflict battle damage while you controlled this Face-up card this turn, it is changed to Defense Position at the end of the Battle Phase, and its battle position cannot be changed until the End Phase of your next turn._
ATK/2300 DEF/0
13:15
_Cyber/Cyberse Commander_ (DARK)
Level 2
Pendulum Scales: 7
_If you Summon a Machine or Cyberse monster, you can Increase or Decrease this cards Pendulum Scales by up the the Levels/Ranks/Links of that Monster(s). Machine and Cyberse monsters you who’s Level is higher than this card’s Pendulum Scales can be Normal Summoned without Tributing. During your Main Phase, you can Normal Summon 1 Machine and/or Cyberse monster each, whose Level is less than this card’s Pendulum Scales, in addition to your Normal Summon/Set. (You can only gain this effect once per turn.)_
Machine/Pendulum/Tuner/Effect
_If you Control a Machine or Cyberse monster that was first Special Summoned from your Extra Deck (Quick Effect); You can Special Summon this card from your hand or Pendulum Zones. If this card is Summoned, you can change its Original Type to Cyberse. If you Summon a Machine or Cyberse monster(s), you can Increase or Decrease this cards Level by up to the Levels/Ranks/Links of that Monster(s). If this card you control is used as Tribute or Material for the Summon of a Machine or Cyberse monster, you can treat it as a non-Tuner._
ATK/750 DEF/750
23:42
_Machine Emeperor_ (EARTH)
Level 12
Machine/Effect
_Requires 3 Machine Tributes to Normal Summon (cannot be Normal Set). Can only be Special Summoned by the effects of a Machine monster, or a Spell/Trap that mentions “Machine” in its name or text. Cards you control cannot be destroyed by battle by, and are unaffected by the effects of, opponents Machine monsters. Machine monsters you control gain 500 ATK/DEF for each Face-up Machine monster on the field. During either players Main Phase or Battle Phase: You can pay LP equal to the total ATK/DEF of 1 Machine monster you control (Min. 500); immediately after this effect resolves, Normal Summon/Set 1 Machine monster. If this card, or another Machine monster(s), leaves the field; You can add 1 “Machine” Spell/Trap to your hand from your Deck._
ATK/4400 DEF/4400
16:15
_Archfiend’s Berserk Dragon_ (DARK)
Level 8
Zombie/Effect
_Cannot be Normal Summoned/Set. Must first be Special Summoned by its own effect. If your Opponent Banishes or sends to the GY a Level/Rank/Link 6 or Higher monster(s) from your hand, field and/or Extra Deck (Quick Effect): You can Special Summon this card from your hand, Deck, GY or Banishment. You can only Special Summon 1 “Archfiend’s Berserk Dragon” per turn by this effect. Can attack all monsters your opponent controls once each. All monsters your opponent controls must attack this card if able. During each of your End Phases, if this card didn’t battle during this turn or last turn, it loses 500 ATK. If this card’s ATK becomes 0: Destroy it._
ATK/3500 DEF/0
a PSCT suggestion for the last line of "Pyramid of The Sphinxes" - If a "Sphinx" monster you control battles: that monster's ATK/DEF become equal to it's combined ATK/DEF during the Damage Step only.
also, thank you for designing it in a way that also helps Exxod Sphinx strats
All i really want is new support for the Jurrac archetype, those little fellas deserve it. They have one of my favorite arts, i mean flaming dinos that grow big, and NOT just a 40 card combo that locks the opponent out of the game? heck yes. would probably be a lot of work to give them seperate support from other dino support, but i can hope!
Cool video, the froozing/burning and Pyramid of light cards could be very interesting!
Perfect Machine King is even better in Reshef of Destruction, than in the real card game.
Gaining 1.000 Attack & Defense for every Machine Type monster on the field, including itself, is at the very least a much better effect.
Pumpking is the card I want a modern archetype of the most, or just a Bonz archetype in general. My other faves were flame swordsman, relinquished and gate guardian
Yeah, Bonz really deserves more respect than he got. He's the only one who was killed off and actually stayed dead despite being an unlucky child with a face defect that probably was a victim of severe bullying. Even in Duel links he questions why he's suddenly alive again, and if they can give Rex Raptor's two headed dragon some new cards (and mighty fine ones as well), they can throw Bonz something. I feel like Pumpking was WAY over balanced for the time, but the idea of protecting a monster to make it stronger in conjunction with the nature of zombie decks could lead to some really cool modern strats.
I want to see a retrain of Super Roboyarou/ Super Robolady. A neat fusion archetype that can swap out with eachother in the ED. Could make an even more fun one where its a full ED summoning mechanic group that you swap between to get the one you need.
I'll never forgive them for errataing Infernalqueen - the +1000 attack per round buff she gave used to be permanent and stack with itself as long as she stays on the field. The DRV reprint and onward makes it only last until the end of the turn.
Goat format facilitates an "Orks & Goblins" deck.
Stuff your deck with Goblin attack forces and Giant orcs, and any other high-attack monster with a drawback, then either use Final Attack order or Skill Drain to negate the said drawbacks.
Yeah I feel the Attack force cards still have a niche given the things you can do with them after they attack and they could work as a quick surprise 2K attacker in a pinch. Though I'm a duel links player so I mostly see value in the potential cards have assuming you survive past the 3rd turn and Duel links generally allows people to be more creative. Alas I think they're probably on this list because they don't have to be retrained.... the game has enough power creep as it is (coughLinkmonsterscough) and could use the pace being slowed down a bit to where battle effects actually matter again.
A chess-themed archetype has literal novels worth of concepts it could draw from, but they decided to tie it to the archfiends and their long abandoned LP costs for some reason. Mechanically, they're closer to monopoly than chess.
I wanted to repurpose them into a fanmade archetype with actual chess gimmicks, but the fuckers have very few support cards to mimic strategies and rules.
Chess Archfiends occupying opponents zones while still being under your control would be neat
That episode of the anime with Bonz using pumpking is still one of my favorite duels in the original season. Was so dissappointed that pumpking didnt have a similar effect to buff up zombies in the tcg.
Would love a retrain of Pumpking to actually he a really good support piece for zombies.
I would have placed "The Last Warrior from Another Planet" in there. He's a standalone, and yet he's nuts.
At least one of the attack force Goblins are featured in Trap Hole, which has seen big useage with Traptrixs. so maybe play into the bad luck the goblins keep getting into via a retrain that makes them into hosts for the traptrix girls? would make for a very unique (and super spooky) combination; call the main card “Traptrix Host Attack Force”, and it’s just the goblins covered in vines and thorns and stuff, and the girls essentially puppeting them while feeding on them.
I would love a burning/freezing beast retrain with cracked union support like what they did to chimera with the illusion cards.
There's a ton of old archetype ideas that could've been modernized easily with some good erratas and support that Konami just.....forgot about...which is the biggest shame. Stil upset they never bothered to finish the Neo Spacians and it would've been WAY easier for them to just make Ritual monsters go in the extra deck instead of requiring us to play Nekroz to get any use out of them.....
As someone from the area, pronouncing it as "Sell-tick" instead of "Kell-tick" makes me think of the Boston Celtics, so now Celtic Guardian is the Boston Celtic Guardian.
Odd it'd be mispronounced given they literally always pronounced it "Kell-tick" in the show, but I guess if you grew up with the basketball team you'd probably read faster than you hear it.
I know the D/D/D archetype already kind of goes into that direction, but I would love a "deal with the devil" based archetype based on Ha Des on something new.
It could work by having cards with powerful effects, but great costs, which you can force onto your opponent, except for them the benefit might be questionable or even useless. (like for example a card which gives a powerful buff to link monsters, which is great for you, but your opponent might rely on Xyz).
Or, what I think would be even cooler, you know how both players can use each other's field spell's effect, which rarely comes up? What if your entire deck has cards which your opponent is allowed to use as well, but if they do, it generates resources that benefit you and you have ways to greatly capitalize on these resources and ways to prevent your opponent from actually gaining advantage.
Like, just an example, imagine you have a field spell which collects counters and uses them to protect itself (like in the Endymion archetype). Then you have another card which allows you, once per turn, to pay a bit of lifepoints to add a monster card from your GY to your hand, which is a powerful effect. Whenever this effect is used a counter is generated and added to your field spell. Your opponent can use this effect as well, but it also generates a counter for you. Then you have different cards with effects that scale off the number of counters you have, or remove them as a cost for powerful effects (like spell counters). Also you have ways to jinx your opponent's use of your cards. Like maybe a trap card that says "if your opponent adds a monster card from their GY to their hand, then monsters with that card's name cannot be summoned or special summoned and cannot activate their effects this turn." so you got to use that effect, you added a card from your GY to your hand, but the devilish twist is that it completely useless this turn.
The adjective retrains just sound like we're adding MTG keywords to cards and im here for it. maybe s/t's that give normal monsters Obnoxious/Swift/Enraged and extra deck monsters that need specific adjectives to be tributed.
Would be interesting to see Freezing Beast and Burning Beast a Fusion card, either level 6 or 8, that combines their stats(3000 attack, 2000 defense) and give them some fairly good effects involving other Union monsters or something.
An idea for a Dark Scorpion Retrain could be a Battle Focused deck that pilfers cards from your opponent, like how Grave Robber works.
Something like upon successfully dealing LP damage reveal the top/bottom card of your opponent's deck and either send it to the GY *_or_* use the card for yourself.
If it's a monster you may summon it to your field in defense position, Use a spell effect, Set a Trap, ETC.
Naturally there'd have to be some kind of restriction, but it would allow these comically competent crooks to retain their unique flavor of milling or messing with your opponent.
13:19 "My favorite card is Cyber Commander. It has 750 ATK and does nothing!"
(c) Abridged Tristan
An archetype that I personally like, and hope gets a retrain is the Iron Chain cards, an archetype that was introduced at the beginning of 5Ds, and was a victim of its time. Much like many cards that were introduced, it didn't really have a united theme besides the name. Some had burn effects, others could search, but it wasn't very good. If they retrained it, I could see it being tied to the chaining mechanic of Yugioh. The higher the chain the more powerful the effects you could use. An effect at chains 2, 3, and 4 with different effects. And the boss monster could change the entire order of the events in a chain so opponent cards could miss timing, and your cards could activate sooner. I know this is a very small possibility, but heres hoping.
Pumpking is one of those cards that have zero excuse for not already having a retrain. Its current effect is so out of touch with its anime effect. The two cards aren't even from the same duel/duelist, they're unrelated. Plus the duelist (PaniK) that used Castle of Dark Illusions didn't even use zombies, he played fiends with the Castle creating a dark mist to hide their stats so if anything it should be one of those flip support cards that reset and shuffle your monsters.
HE’S MANIFESTING NEW ARCHETYPE SUPPORT 🙏
Please tell me I'm not the only one who really wants to see a Beaver Warrior retrain...
Gaia has so much support. I wish feral imp and beaver warrior got full blown archetypes in the way Gaia did
Pumpking will TOTALLY get a retrain in the future. Sooner or later Konami will release a Bonz deck.
A retrain of Raphael's Guardian monsters would be good. Give them all Eatos' summoning condition and merge the equip spell with the monster eg:
Guardian Grarl - Gravity Axe
3000/1500
If you have no monsters in your GY, you can special summon this card from your Hand. Monsters your opponent control cannot change their battle position.
Maybe throw in some additional effects for each monster, but you could make a really good archetype by retraining Raphael's guardian cards and include support that have benefits for keeping monsters out of the GY.
Equip cards special summon the guardians from the hand and you can banish the spell cards in the graveyard to return the monsters to deck
@@gonzalez8juanMake then also capable of negating monster effects when equipped to non-guardian monsters.
A Machine King archetype would actually be pretty cool
There are many cards I always wanted to get support or a retrain of:
Aitsu & Koitsu.
Pikeru & Curran.
Roboyarou & Robolady.
Muka Muka & Hane-Hane.
Crab Turtle.
“Red-Eyes Prince, Prince of Ghosts”
Level 7
Zombie/effect ATK: 2400 DEF: 2000
If you control a “Pumpking, King of Ghosts” or “Pumprincess, Princess of Ghosts” you may special summon this card from your hand. If a monster effect would activate during your Standby Phase, those effects activate an additional time.
Just a bad idea given I have no idea of this would work, but I feel that fits with Red-Eyes
Maybe a retrain of Pumpking that negates the effects of all monsters that had their stats reduced. And if either of their stats hit zero, they're banished.
15:10, wait why is cyber commander a 'tough sell' for the US market? Aren't we talking about the western country infamous for having public gun carries, being able to buy shotguns and rifles in retail stores and everyone talking bout' their 2nd amendment rights? So why do guns need to be censored in a country that is absolutely crazy about them????
Welcome to America the land of hypocrites
I see what Mr duel logs is doing. He knows if he makes a video like this, these cards will get support later. Some sooner then others. Very sneaky Mr duel logs.
Here's hoping Machine King retrains would help to the overall Earth Machine deck!
Pretty much most classic Yu-gi-oh cards need retrains in order to be competitive.
Heck, it might not be competitive but I was surprised they made a Metalmorph archetype
The monsters do, at least. The spells usually need nerfing to not be broken.
Honestly forget competitive cause frankly modern Yugioh is just power creep soup (literally most archetypes even modern ones are useless cause they "can't beat Tears") They need to just use thier ban list better and stop printing overpowered cards that literally do what a former banned card did but somehow far worse AND with tempo.... Fortunately Duel links knows how to put a lid on rediculous strats and let us actually have a chance of winning wtih some of our favorite archetypes, not just everyone use Tears or Sprights and prevent your opponent from playing the game and acting like that's peak yugioh....
12:16 Ideas to retrain these cards some more:
_Bloodbath Battle Ox_ (EARTH)
Level 4
Beast-Warrior/Effect
_If a Beast, Beast-Warrior, or Winged Beast monster(s) you control either Destroy a monster(s) by battle, are Destroyed by battle, or directly attack your opponent (Quick Effect); You can Special Summon this card from your hand or GY. If a Beast, Beast-Warrior or Winged Beast monster you control destroys an Opponent’s monster by battle, it gains ATK/DEF equal to the total ATK/DEF that monster had while it was on the field. If a Beast, Beast-Warrior or Winged Beast monster you control attacks and Destroys an opponent’s monster by battle, it can attack again in a row. If this card leaves the field, you can Special Summon 1 “Battle Ox” monster from your hand or Deck, except “Bloodbath Battle Ox.”_
ATK/1700 DEF/1000
_Stalwart Celtic Guard_ (EARTH)
Level 4
Warrior/Effect
_If you would take any amount of Battle or Effect damage (Quick Effect); You can Special Summon this card from your hand, and if you do, reduce this card’s ATK and/or DEF by equal to that damage you would take. Cannot be destroyed by Battle or card effects. If you would take any Battle or Effect damage while you control this Face-up card: Reduce this card’s ATK and/or DEF by that much instead. If this card’s total ATK/DEF becomes 0; Destroy this card. During the End Phase of each turn, if this card’s total ATK/DEF has been reduced by it’s own effect this turn; double its ATK/DEF._
ATK/1500 DEF/1500
_Loyal Gaia the Fierce Knight_ (DARK)
Level 7
Warrior/Effect
_While you control "Shining Sarcophagus", you can Normal Summon this card without Tributing. Your opponent cannot Target monsters you control for attacks or card effects, except “Loyal Gaia the Fierce Knight”. If a card that has “Shining Sarcophagus” in its name or text would leave the field (Quick Effect); You can Destroy this card instead. If this card inflicts Battle Damage to your opponent, or leaves the field while you control “Shining Sarcophagus” ; You can Special Summon 1 monster from your hand that mentions “Shining Sarcophagus”_
ATK/2300 DEF/2000
I remember Freezing Beast, Burning Beast and Protective Soul Alain being my first ever union monsters. I never understood Union monster as a kid. I only knew about them from the anime watching Kaiba and Chazz use the XYZ monsters. Nonetheless I really liked them and had hoped we’d see more from them
Machine King has the possibility of being broken with Clockwork Night if it gets a retrain with protection.
making a chess-themed mini-archetypes gimmick revolve around dice rolls is just bizarre. one of the most notable aspects of chess is that it has no RNG of any kind. did they just do it because dice are square, and chess also has squares...?
....Ah, yes. My favorite konami leaks series
I honestly can't believe we've never gotten a PaniK deck retrain. They had some of the best art and great episodes that everyone liked as far as I know.
I'd have liked a gimmicky variant of Swords of Revealing light that works like how Yugi somehow used it against Panik. where if you use the card, All monsters on your opponent's field except the monster with the highest attack has immunity to battle for 3 turns but on the endphase of the third turn, destroy all monsters on the field. Monsters can't be tributed or removed from the field while this card is in effect though. So you protect your opponent's monsters for 3 turns, only to raigeki them and force them to waste a spell destruction to free their monsters so they can tribute them or protect them from the Raigeki effect, but they can then be damaged. Something like that would be cool. Kind of like the "Attack the Moon" card which is also a card based on Yugi's antics.
Heck it'd be really funny if for every time a character cheated in Duel Monsters, they printed a card that somehow lets you do that. Like "If you summon Great Moth or Perfectly Ultimate Great moth, spread poison on the opponent's monsters that cuts thier attack in half" and even one referencing the infamous Kaiba gambit....although frankly that card already exists...it's called Soul relay.
I would love to see a Garoozis retrain where they incorporate kunai with chain to buff attack and change opponent monster positioning.
Never say "Never"
I mean, Konami made retrains out of forgotten vanilla garbage monsters (some of them were OCG only btw) with the Memento archtype, so we'll never know
Freezing Beast & Burning Beast: (0:00)
Pumpking the King of Ghosts: (2:20)
Pyramid of Light: (5:42)
Goblin Attack Force: (7:55)
Adjective Retrains: (10:41)
Cyber Commander: (13:15)
Berserk Dragon: (15:54)
are not even archtypes
they are just cards mention each other, without deck it just set of cards add, not an archtype and what make them bad that they require specefic card
however they still can be meta or at least a playable deck, for example, "Hungry Burger"
Yes
Id love see a retrain of dark master zorc and diaboubd kernel. With zorc being the big bad of the final season and diabound having a lot of screen time, having them bundled together to make a zorc ritual deck would be cool
I cry every day that pumpking doesn't get his retrain. Well I hope about it often lol
Chthonian cards deserve a retrain too. Make them something similar to fiend smith and have them as a small engine you could use
I would love to finally have a centerpiece to my Goblin-Boblin deck which is just a pile of card that either say the word "goblin" or have one in the artwork
An archetype I know for sure will never see new support is Bounzers, a 5 card group where only the XYZ was ever used.
Freezing Beast's art is one of my favorites in the game, extremely sick
I pulled berserk when I was young and would just read and reread it thinking why isn't this good, it looks so cool
Would love to see a Slot Machine archetype. He was my favourite card when I was a kid!
Archfiends need a complete rehaul, Summoned Skull needs to be their pankryotops/fenrir
I'd love to see an archtype for all of those. But the one I want the most is Trihorn Dragon!
25:13 except himself. Same as proto. But the original machine king gains the 100 off of himself.
Anyhow, that's just tiny knit-picking. This was a really fun video to watch. Thank you for this :)
Clockwork Machine King to just put Clockwork Night in it :P
I think if the Goblin cards split into tokens you could use for link summons in main phase 2 after the battle phase they might be useful pretty easily.
Winged dragon, guardian of the fortress needs some love. Which fortress are they guarding? There's a story to tell there.
I haven't watched the vid but I always thought its a travesty that the Archfiends mostly Summoned Skull never got the love of Dark Magician and/or Blue Eyes. Even though those are not that meta but it still holds a place in ppls hearts and childhood and they get play and sometimes rogue status
Machine king is awesome but a bit sad as well, as E.M.R is a super rad card for the gundam esc feel of the archetype, but it relies on 'original' attack, I think if there was a card that gave them their boosts as 'original attack' when they leave the field or while on it we could see some interesting plays with it, not meta, but still fun!
There was a series of Level 7 Reptiles with mediocre stats that, when destroyed by battle, would destroy all monsters on the field not of their attribute. I think they would be easy retrains.
Or "DuelLogs attempts to manifest cards into existence by saying they'll never happen"
Oh boi, we are definitely going to get retrains or archetypes in these cards.
Katy Perry has been real quiet since DuelLogs mentioned the possibility of Hot and Cold archetype.
YOOO BERSERK DRAGON!!! I traded for that card when i was younger without reading it and then found out it needed a ritual to summon that I didn't own!!!
26:47 I’d love a machine king retrain. I remember playing it in 2004 at the cyber stein tournament.
At the time, limiter removal was at 3. 😂
If there is an archetype that I want to get retrain it would be the original D.D. archetype with some spells and traps that glue them together.
Cyber Commander archetype could always have an option effect to special summon a cyber commander from deck to fuse, synchro, or xyz into different cyber squads. Even a field spell Cyber Command Base. Konami would censor it so bad😅😂
I would say that the union mechanic itself did get a retrain think the zexal weapons in a utopia deck, or other decks that can equip monsters to monsters
The only one I don't think is gonna get future support is #5, the rest I could see Konami randomly supporting... They love rebooting old cards randomly. Which is not saying #5 is impossible, just unlikely.
I would love to see a dedicated "Goblin" archetype focused on swarming, more cards like Goblin Attack Force and maybe some goblin-themed Equip Spells, Traps and maybe even some Xyx monsters themed around getting more ATK and effects with more Goblins attached to it as material.
What happened to the music? It feels weird without music.
You’re brave for uploading this Logs
We need a Montage Dragon deck.
Sounds like we need an "All Dragons in Yugioh" video.
Pyramid of Light feels like it should've been a Field Spell
Anyone else think this?
Machine King getting a proper archetype with Mechanical Chaser just sounds like it should invoke ‘Today I will remind them. Of the days Mechanical Chaser beat down was the objectively best level 4.’
After seeing the latest (as of posting) batches of retrains (P.U.N.K, Orcust, Dragonmaids, and (as of posting) the Dragon Rulers), I wouldn’t mind seeing any of the retrains mentioned in the video to actually happen.
Probably should add an Asterisk that says "excluding in Rush Duels."
Because over there they have given things like give an Archetype to Graceful/Skull Dice and Legacy support for freaking *Sparks* of all things
In a way machineking support is already here.
Clockwork Night, turns all monsters on the field to machines, and has an effect to search an earth machine monster.
Clockwork Knight is pretty clearly a retrain of robotic knight
with a few more cards, to flood the field with machines, they might have a coherent plan to rush out Perfect machine king
Technically Punpking the king of ghosts has a retrain in the form of Jack-O-Bolan. Card art shows Pumpking in a whole new form.