WHY KIA BURNS ENGINE OIL, INCREASED OIL CONSUMPTION HYUNDAI
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- The most common reason for your Kia or Hyundai vehicle to have massive oil consumption problems is gonna be the PCV Valve. This is a maintenance part that needs to be replaced every 60k miles, but most people either don’t know they have to change it or figure it’s something they don’t need to think about. But a bad PCV valve can be the difference between your car running 100 percent or running like a V8 in a 4 cylinder. The part only cost 15$ from the dealership and my mechanic actually put it on for free for me, took him 5 min. Super easy and worth giving a shot if your car is having these problems. Don’t start big! Start small and then if the problems are still happening then go bigger. Best of luck and I hope Everyone has a beautiful day! :)
#kia #hyundai #pcv
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My Sportage only had 78,000 miles on it when I noticed near empty oil between changes. I “fixed” my problem by trading it for a Toyota RAV-4.
Excellent choice👍
i have kia rio 2017 same problem, will fix it if i can and sell it as soon as i can. i will never buy a Kia anymore
😂 My brother's RAV4 is on it's second engine. My Sportage is at 340,000 thousand miles. His RAV has 145,000 now and it's a rattle trap compared to my Sportage. We bought them in 2011.
He knows who has the best car😂😊
@@ChasL704 that’s crazy man🤣
@@bapez31 I know, I even drive harder and my car has never been garaged.
KIA and Hyundai gdi engines suffer from oil consumption and crank bearing issues. Some other things you can do to limit oil consumption:
1. Use a high quality oil for shorter oil changes.
2. Use an engine flush to help clean the ring area.
3. Use a good combustion cleaner like BG 44K occasionally.
4. Go up a weight in oil
5. The best is a piston soak using Berryman's B12 chemtool.
USUALLY NOT PCV. I had dealer check mine.------ 2017 Kia Sorento 69K miles UPDATE... 1st piston soak :FAILED. KIA had dealer do a 2nd piston soak. Got 700 miles until they check result of this one. I had them put in Valvoline restore & protect.. I also had them do an EPR 109 engine flush before 2nd soak. I put BG 44k in gas tank before dealer got car. Hey !!! There are you tube videos with Berryman B-12 piston soak and other piston soaks that work!!!... One put in a can of B-12 just in fuel tank and drove it real fast for 5 miles and unstuck those piston rings One put in Liqui Moly valve cleaner and drove fast for 4 tank fulls and got the oil burn down to nothing. I am doing short REDLINE RPM sprints to and from work to try to break the rings loose. I will UPDATE results of 2nd piston soak. If stil using more than 1qt /1k miles I might get a new long block from KIA. If it only kinda works... I will put in B-12 in gas tank and REDLINE it for a few miles.. Change your oil every 3k miles on GDI and do some high RPM drives at least once or twice a week to prevent. USE TOP TIER GAS or ADD Techron with crap gas.....
@@bobreese4807do you use synthetic or regular oil
I had this same issue on a new VW Jetta back in the 90’s. The dealers said, oh it’s normal for the engine to burn a quart of oil every 1000 miles! After getting the regional VW rep. Involved , they tore the engine apart and one of the pistons was scored and fixed the issue. Got it back, no oil usage and drove it another 200k miles. Oil just does not disappear, if it’s not leaking it’s burning. So, for the oil to burn, it needs to be getting passed the pistons somehow. I would bet that the piston rings are failing on these cars due to a bad design. I would sell that car as fast as I could and don’t buy another Kia or Hyundai. They are known to have engine issues, it’s common.
They lie , they will tell you anything . Dont ever tell a mechanic you dont know nothing about cars . Lol 😂 call corporate . See how there attitude changes .
All the dealers in USA f lies they are told me seem
Yup, the only reason a pcv valve will fix the oil issue is if your issue is an oil leak(usually a leaking valve cover gasket). The PCV relieves the pressure. It's very common for kia valve cover gaskets to go and leak and its most likely from the pcv valve sticking.
PCV valve won't come close to fixing burning a quart a month. It's blow by getting past piston rings and or intake valves, oil is getting into the combustion chamber..
This
Amen.
Facts
I put a quart per week in mine. I just traded it in for another brand. Im never getting a hyundai again
@@thaddeusbarrick8432 It's the earlier pre 2020 Hyunda's and Kia 4 cylinders that were the issues, get any 6 cylinder in those after '20 you won't have any issues with anything....
Change the viscosity of the oil to 5w-30w oil.
Unfortunately that will not make any difference
GDI engines may be a helluva lot more simple in operation, but the design of this is destined to be an oil burning nightmare.
@@Russellsagecline Had that conversation with my Kia dealer. Of course they were in denial. I change oil every 3000 miles as a preventative or a delaying action. The dealership is embarrassed by this and says it isn’t necessary.
@@rascal0175 The sad part is that 99% of car owners are clueless when trying to understand how modern engines work. The gap between the pistons, rings and cylinders is so large that oil gets around it with no problem. I'm absolutely not a fan of the fuel atomizing directly into the intake valve. Bring back the Throttle Body Injection, for Pete's sake!!!
I changed my son's pcv valve on his '16 optima last month. Insanely easy to do, and I'm pretty awful with tools. Only took me five minutes. Got the part online so it cost me an extra 10 bucks for shipping. I believe it's helping out some but not sure yet. Definitely worth doing even if it's not the actual issue causing the excessive burning of oil.
how's it going now?
My 2016 sportage started drinking oil at 110k. I replaced the pcv valve. At 135k my engine blew despite changing oil every 5k miles since I bought it. I really babied that car. Its GDI engines. I would not recommend a GDI engine no matter what.
USUALLY NOT PCV. I had dealer check mine.------ 2017 Kia Sorento 69K miles UPDATE... 1st piston soak :FAILED. KIA had dealer do a 2nd piston soak. Got 700 miles until they check result of this one. I had them put in Valvoline restore & protect.. I also had them do an EPR 109 engine flush before 2nd soak. I put BG 44k in gas tank before dealer got car. Hey !!! There are you tube videos with Berryman B-12 piston soak and other piston soaks that work!!!... One put in a can of B-12 just in fuel tank and drove it real fast for 5 miles and unstuck those piston rings One put in Liqui Moly valve cleaner and drove fast for 4 tank fulls and got the oil burn down to nothing. I am doing short REDLINE RPM sprints to and from work to try to break the rings loose. I will UPDATE results of 2nd piston soak. If stil using more than 1qt /1k miles I might get a new long block from KIA. If it only kinda works... I will put in B-12 in gas tank and REDLINE it for a few miles.. Change your oil every 3k miles on GDI and do some high RPM drives at least once or twice a week to prevent. USE TOP TIER GAS or ADD Techron with crap gas.
My Hyundai Getz supermini with the G4ED 1.6 liter engine is also using about 1 liter (about 1 quart) of engine oil every 3-4K km (2-2.5K miles). Bought the car new in 2003. Already clocked up about 475K km (nearly 300K miles) so yeah, not too happy about it. It only started using up oil about the last couple of years; never had to top up any oil in between services (every 10K km/6K miles) prior to that. Slowed the oil consumption down a bit after switching to 15W-50 oil from the 10W-40 used previously
If its engine with 0w20 oil just put some quality full syntetic 0w30 by mobil shell motul , that is in spec for your vehicle like acea c2/c3 or whatever oil consumption will stop . This engines were designed for 5w30 but for fuel economy they gone to 0w20 oil is to thin and with usage its getting even thinner
Nissan tried pulling the 0w20 on me
Engine was noisy with loud lifters after. Went back to 5w30 problem solved with no difference in gas mileage.
Worked for my wife's Kia. As long as your vehicle isn't pumping out smoke from the tailpipe, this should work. The part actually cost $32.
@@nicklovelady1639 inflation like a mf, glad it worked though
I bought the pcv from amazon for half the price, I didn't have to trade it in for a toyota!
My 2.0l 2015 soul has close to 160k mile, other than that problem which I fixed is the suspension which I can get from amazon and replace myself in my garage!
My 2016 SX used a qt every 700 miles. Poor ring design. Deep cleaning engine is a temporary fix. I found the best fix ever. Dumped it off at Carmax, where it went straight to auction...
Ditto. I traded it for a RAV4.
I will never deal with GDI motors. Carbon build up right on the piston.
I hate it😭
All motors get carbon build up on the pistons. The bad thing about GDI is the carbon build up on the valves. Since there is no fuel hitting the valves to clean the valves, the carbon build up is excessive.
@@arkansasrider is it easy to.clean? I have a 2015 tucson thats consuming excessive amount of oil. No leak
@@marcia122487 First thing you want to do if oil consumption is an issue, is to replace the PCV valve.
@@marcia122487 ua-cam.com/video/7Sm8OvjszBw/v-deo.html
I’ll check the oil on my 2017 Kia Sorrento one morning and it had no oil I put 3 quarts of oil in it. Called the dealership as soon as they opened up that Saturday morning I asked for an oil change but I told her there’s no oil in it, so she said if it’s an emergency you could bring it in just walk in without an appointment and not 10 minutes later they called me back. Asked me all about it and told me to have the car towed in then I did my research oh my God people get rid of your kias.This has all kinds of things wrong and a Pcv valve. it’s not gonna fix it. I only had 76,000 miles. So Monday morning I will be calling them telling them that I know their problem and this better be under warranty and I’m not paying for them to look at it and if they can fix it however they fix it it’s only gonna be driven to the next dealership to get rid of it and I’m buying a Toyota.
USUALLY NOT PCV. I had dealer check mine.------ 2017 Kia Sorento 69K miles UPDATE... 1st piston soak :FAILED. KIA had dealer do a 2nd piston soak. Got 700 miles until they check result of this one. I had them put in Valvoline restore & protect.. I also had them do an EPR 109 engine flush before 2nd soak. I put BG 44k in gas tank before dealer got car. Hey !!! There are you tube videos with Berryman B-12 piston soak and other piston soaks that work!!!... One put in a can of B-12 just in fuel tank and drove it real fast for 5 miles and unstuck those piston rings One put in Liqui Moly valve cleaner and drove fast for 4 tank fulls and got the oil burn down to nothing. I am doing short REDLINE RPM sprints to and from work to try to break the rings loose. I will UPDATE results of 2nd piston soak. If stil using more than 1qt /1k miles I might get a new long block from KIA. If it only kinda works... I will put in B-12 in gas tank and REDLINE it for a few miles.. Change your oil every 3k miles on GDI and do some high RPM drives at least once or twice a week to prevent. USE TOP TIER GAS or ADD Techron with crap gas...
they're having a lot of trouble with the Start Go oil pump mentioned in the current recall
Yes maybe but the issues with the pcv allowing to much blow by would be that the intake will get wet an all the carbon will stick tonthe valves a catch can will help prevent further build up but till you deal with that intake carbon build up i wouldnt think anything will get better
The problem is if you are too busy and tired and drive it a month without checking the oil, you just junk u new car and still old 3 year of payments,for me no more Nissan or kia.
Bro you shouldn’t have to check your oil in a month of normal driving where are you even going that far away
I have a 2012 Sorento with 94k miles and a 2017 Elantra with 24k miles both have oil changes when recommended and both have no oil loss problem.
Its not the pcv. Has to be piston rings. If it was pcv you can add a oil catch can and change pcv often. To improve it a little. Maybe higher grade oil
My kia optima has seemingly been burning amost 1 quart of oil every 1000 miles ever since i had some initial engine work done at 71k to replace the CVVT and a few parts associated with that in the engine. Now 89k and its jerking while idling so i had to take it in again. I hope its just spark plugs but could be much worse. The guy that did the oil change around 5k miles after the engine work did notice metal flakes in the oil...so, yea, ill just say KIA isnt quite the same as Toyota.
I don't blame hardworking folks who dare NOT touch any Kia or Hyundai vehicle. With the massive bill they shouldered from the engine failure fiasco plus other major safety recalls, guess who will foot the bill eventually?
GDI motors needed intake cleaned every 15k and combustion chamber cleaning 30 to 50k miles depending on gas, oil and type of driving.
yes i run techron maybe every 3k miles - keeps it running really well and clean. i do a seafoam every 15k - i think this is a huge culprit of so many engine failures than other engines. due to it burning oil and owners not knowing these are high maintenance engines.
GDI ENGINES SUCK !!!! ( JUNK )
Dont buy Kia 's or Hyundai 's . Seen on tv that Kio soul was stolen and seen on back plate GDI i feel bad for that person . Everybody should buy a new car or Suv when they reach about 70,000 miles after that you will be putting end less money into any car . Forget about how much you paid for it .
Why doesn't the dealer recommend this regular maintenance when I take it in? I don't think I've heard them say that
They need the valves cleaned every 10,000 miles
Changed my pcv valve on 2016 Kia Soul. Didnt help the oil burning consumption at all.
I would get your valves checked they could be covered with carbon, If so your best option would be to get your valves walnut blasted all gdi engines gunk up the valves it’s a design flaw
Dont listen to everybody .
USUALLY NOT PCV. I had dealer check mine.------ 2017 Kia Sorento 69K miles UPDATE... 1st piston soak :FAILED. KIA had dealer do a 2nd piston soak. Got 700 miles until they check result of this one. I had them put in Valvoline restore & protect.. I also had them do an EPR 109 engine flush before 2nd soak. I put BG 44k in gas tank before dealer got car. Hey !!! There are you tube videos with Berryman B-12 piston soak and other piston soaks that work!!!... One put in a can of B-12 just in fuel tank and drove it real fast for 5 miles and unstuck those piston rings One put in Liqui Moly valve cleaner and drove fast for 4 tank fulls and got the oil burn down to nothing. I am doing short REDLINE RPM sprints to and from work to try to break the rings loose. I will UPDATE results of 2nd piston soak. If stil using more than 1qt /1k miles I might get a new long block from KIA. If it only kinda works... I will put in B-12 in gas tank and REDLINE it for a few miles.. Change your oil every 3k miles on GDI and do some high RPM drives at least once or twice a week to prevent. USE TOP TIER GAS or ADD Techron with crap gas.,,,
Excessive oil consumption in Kia engines is a result of bad rings. Simple test is to drive your car, step on the gas pedal and accelerate fast. Look in your rear view mirror to see if any smoke is coming out of exhaust pipe. If so, that smoke is oil that is getting burned with the gas as a result of worn piston rings. Eventually, excessive oil will start to foul your spark plugs. Kia engines have major recalls along with class action lawsuits against them.
Nah rings are fine, no smoke. Just a weird issue
Can be stuck piston rings too caused by build up of carbon from these GDI engines.
@@Sneakyninjas33 Could be clogged or stuck oil ring. Look for video on Berryman B12 and oil usage.
I had a2017 Kia sportage and 2018 Kia sorento and both were heavy oil burners.sold both and bought a Toyota
I replaced my sons pcv valve and added a catch can on his 2017 hyundai and attempted to clean his intake valves and it still uses oil.
Going to try an engine flush next
Yeah and engine flush should fix oil burning. Try pouring gas in the washer fluid next
A piston soak is best
USUALLY NOT PCV. I had dealer check mine.------ 2017 Kia Sorento 69K miles UPDATE... 1st piston soak :FAILED. KIA had dealer do a 2nd piston soak. Got 700 miles until they check result of this one. I had them put in Valvoline restore & protect.. I also had them do an EPR 109 engine flush before 2nd soak. I put BG 44k in gas tank before dealer got car. Hey !!! There are you tube videos with Berryman B-12 piston soak and other piston soaks that work!!!... One put in a can of B-12 just in fuel tank and drove it real fast for 5 miles and unstuck those piston rings One put in Liqui Moly valve cleaner and drove fast for 4 tank fulls and got the oil burn down to nothing. I am doing short REDLINE RPM sprints to and from work to try to break the rings loose. I will UPDATE results of 2nd piston soak. If stil using more than 1qt /1k miles I might get a new long block from KIA. If it only kinda works... I will put in B-12 in gas tank and REDLINE it for a few miles.. Change your oil every 3k miles on GDI and do some high RPM drives at least once or twice a week to prevent. USE TOP TIER GAS or ADD Techron with crap gas.....
so it's a safe bet don't buy a Kia/Hyundai....I have a 2009 Grand Caravan with 180,000 miles.....it uses 1/2 quart of oil every 5000 miles. I want to get a new car but am hesitant as to what I am hearing with the junk out there.
I’d recommend a 2012-2015 Honda you really can’t go wrong there👌
Or you can replace it yourself which will take you about ten minutes. I showed my niece how and had her do the work. She's not mechanically inclined but had no problem doing it as I showed her.
Burns as much as a BMW? Never heard that one. My BMW with more miles and years than your car will go 10k miles on an oil change and not need a quart. Never met anyone that complained of oil consumption on a bmw I6. Only real issues are the V8s like the N63.
Had it replaced and no go. There is still an excessive oil consumption. At 69k miles.
I’d recommend getting your valves walnut blasted and check to see if you have any oil leaking from your turbo if you have one. The PCV valve is usually the first thing I’d recommend due to it costing 15$. These engines are terrible and it could also be your piston rings are messed up. Best of luck to you my friend I hope it gets fixed👍
USUALLY NOT PCV. I had dealer check mine.------ 2017 Kia Sorento 69K miles UPDATE... 1st piston soak :FAILED. KIA had dealer do a 2nd piston soak. Got 700 miles until they check result of this one. I had them put in Valvoline restore & protect.. I also had them do an EPR 109 engine flush before 2nd soak. I put BG 44k in gas tank before dealer got car. Hey !!! There are you tube videos with Berryman B-12 piston soak and other piston soaks that work!!!... One put in a can of B-12 just in fuel tank and drove it real fast for 5 miles and unstuck those piston rings One put in Liqui Moly valve cleaner and drove fast for 4 tank fulls and got the oil burn down to nothing. I am doing short REDLINE RPM sprints to and from work to try to break the rings loose. I will UPDATE results of 2nd piston soak. If stil using more than 1qt /1k miles I might get a new long block from KIA. If it only kinda works... I will put in B-12 in gas tank and REDLINE it for a few miles.. Change your oil every 3k miles on GDI and do some high RPM drives at least once or twice a week to prevent. USE TOP TIER GAS or ADD Techron with crap gas./////
Thanks bro , I always took my car to get oil change, I did it this time and I know that old oil was too low almost 2 qt
2 quarts low? You are abusing your car. Check your oil more often. Twice per month.
I had a 2013 kia soul with 2.0 and all the bells and whistles. Never had the oil problem even after it went over 100,000 miles. Later sold the car but then after bad luck with used cars, went to a used 2015 Kia Soul base model with the 1.6. It burns oil like mad. I did finally change spark plugs at same time i changed the pcv valve but i never assumed it would help with oil burning. No offense to this guy but i dont think this is a fix. And im not a car guy by any means but the pcv valve was incredibly easy to replace. It's a hose removal and wrench. Few minutes. $15 and less than 15 minutes. Got the part at Advance
I have a 2013 with the 2.0 and manual transmission. At right around 100k miles I've had no problems with the car including no oil loss. I have it changed every 3000k and check it frequently in between changes. It sounds like the first generation of the Soul is better than the 2014 and later.
My wife 2018 kia soul plus has that problem changed the pcv valve and its still using oil the new pcv valve didn't change the problem
My Ford Ranger has 300k no burning oil
I changed it on my 2015 Sonata. It didn't work 😢
No no no no it’s not the PCV valve. No no no no how many times can people say it’s not worth it because that’s not the problem.
It’s a cheap part so it’s worth a shot, literally $15 part
$15 part not worth trying? BS
I had 2015 kia soul base 1.6L with auto transmission. 267k miles on it. burned a quart of oil in 1k miles mostly freeway and highway driving. if i did mostly city/business district it would burn maybe 1/4th of a quart. should mention too it had rear and front catalytic converter replaced, both covered by kia corporate but i learned that they wouldn't cover either the next time they inevitably go out again. it's a $2k job for the front catalytic converter. i lucked out and got it done free of charge. maybe i'll just get a toyota next. smh
@@Lincolnator721 yeah it’s really sad what they are doing. I don’t understand it at all but that’s what I’m doing. I just keep putting oil in it and it’s a shame because the car runs great as long as I put oil on it a quarter a week it runs great. It’s got 103,000 miles on it now they’re not gonna help me. I went through the whole thing with the one dealership and then I went to another dealership and they wanted me to start all over again. I’m like are you out of your mind, I’m gonna put some of it and cause I said somebody said that would work clean it out
@@joannpond1284 I forgot to mention my car had black soot in the exhaust. I could wipe black soot with my finger in the muffler. It was running too rich. I was going to try out walnut blasting but that wouldn't solve that problem but may help with oil consumption to some degree. i believe I was quoted $600 for walnut blasting to remove the carbon buildup in the intake valves.
My 2017 Kia Rio is having the same problem.
I did pcv valve, from amazon dealers tried to charge $33 every dealer charges different- that still didn’t fix the oil consumption 2018 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 83,000 miles closing in- I changed oil pan due to hairline crack I thought that was the issue at first- issue still existed so I changed the spark plugs forgot they’re supposed to be done every 45,000 miles 😬 😊
2017 Sorento 67K miles..I might be getting a free new engine soon after this latest 1K miles oil check.after the combustion chamber /ring clean fix try.
I wonder if I just get a new short block or new head too. ALSO. I wonder if I get just another crappy piston ring engine again.
2015 soul, changed PCV valve. improvement.
Did it fix the oil consumption?
It does not stop oil consumption on Kia or hyundia
USUALLY NOT PCV. I had dealer check mine.------ 2017 Kia Sorento 69K miles UPDATE... 1st piston soak :FAILED. KIA had dealer do a 2nd piston soak. Got 700 miles until they check result of this one. I had them put in Valvoline restore & protect.. I also had them do an EPR 109 engine flush before 2nd soak. I put BG 44k in gas tank before dealer got car. Hey !!! There are you tube videos with Berryman B-12 piston soak and other piston soaks that work!!!... One put in a can of B-12 just in fuel tank and drove it real fast for 5 miles and unstuck those piston rings One put in Liqui Moly valve cleaner and drove fast for 4 tank fulls and got the oil burn down to nothing. I am doing short REDLINE RPM sprints to and from work to try to break the rings loose. I will UPDATE results of 2nd piston soak. If stil using more than 1qt /1k miles I might get a new long block from KIA. If it only kinda works... I will put in B-12 in gas tank and REDLINE it for a few miles.. Change your oil every 3k miles on GDI and do some high RPM drives at least once or twice a week to prevent. USE TOP TIER GAS or ADD Techron with crap gas.///
Changed mine took 2 min. No special tools cost 12 bucks I believe it's working we were getting a oil residew on rear of vehicle
Where is your mechanic located?
Couple days ago i was driving my kia soul 2021 and i notice a white smoke came out the tailor pipe . It only last 1 minute. What could be the problem ?
@@neglakay5098 sounds like burning oil, I would get rid of that car before it becomes worse and get a Honda or Toyota instead👍
No dude trade your car in when it burns oil your engine is gonna blow .
unfortunately it seems many GDI engines burn oil
What oil will I put in a kia picanto 2024
You can do it in 10 mins you don’t need to take it to a shop
thanks for sharing
I already replace that valve and keeps burning oil,, no leaks 80000 miles Kia rio 2018 ,, piece crab cars
If it’s not leaking that means it’s burning the oil, I’d recommend getting rid of the car for a Honda or Toyota🤙
Some HONDA & Toyota>>same thing..USUALLY NOT PCV. I had dealer check mine.------ 2017 Kia Sorento 69K miles UPDATE... 1st piston soak :FAILED. KIA had dealer do a 2nd piston soak. Got 700 miles until they check result of this one. I had them put in Valvoline restore & protect.. I also had them do an EPR 109 engine flush before 2nd soak. I put BG 44k in gas tank before dealer got car. Hey !!! There are you tube videos with Berryman B-12 piston soak and other piston soaks that work!!!... One put in a can of B-12 just in fuel tank and drove it real fast for 5 miles and unstuck those piston rings One put in Liqui Moly valve cleaner and drove fast for 4 tank fulls and got the oil burn down to nothing. I am doing short REDLINE RPM sprints to and from work to try to break the rings loose. I will UPDATE results of 2nd piston soak. If stil using more than 1qt /1k miles I might get a new long block from KIA. If it only kinda works... I will put in B-12 in gas tank and REDLINE it for a few miles.. Change your oil every 3k miles on GDI and do some high RPM drives at least once or twice a week to prevent. USE TOP TIER GAS or ADD Techron with crap gas.,,,
I don't want a car with a GDI engine; and I don't want a car with a CV transmission.
No you don’t man, you want a good old fuel injected motor with a classic 5 or 6 speed automatic👌
I guess that the problem is at the piston segments
Yes your right, the problem is with the piston rings… but changing 4 piston rings can cost around 2-3k when the parts only cost around 160$. So for the time being I’ve just switched to a thicker oil until I can get a new car😭
@@bapez31 They change the short block and it costs $7000.
@@bapez31 what oil are you using. My tucson takes 5-w-30
@@marcia122487 I’m currently using 10w-30 full synthetic but I’m gonna be switching to 5W-40 liqui moly soon👍
USUALLY NOT PCV. I had dealer check mine.------ 2017 Kia Sorento 69K miles UPDATE... 1st piston soak :FAILED. KIA had dealer do a 2nd piston soak. Got 700 miles until they check result of this one. I had them put in Valvoline restore & protect.. I also had them do an EPR 109 engine flush before 2nd soak. I put BG 44k in gas tank before dealer got car. Hey !!! There are you tube videos with Berryman B-12 piston soak and other piston soaks that work!!!... One put in a can of B-12 just in fuel tank and drove it real fast for 5 miles and unstuck those piston rings One put in Liqui Moly valve cleaner and drove fast for 4 tank fulls and got the oil burn down to nothing. I am doing short REDLINE RPM sprints to and from work to try to break the rings loose. I will UPDATE results of 2nd piston soak. If stil using more than 1qt /1k miles I might get a new long block from KIA. If it only kinda works... I will put in B-12 in gas tank and REDLINE it for a few miles.. Change your oil every 3k miles on GDI and do some high RPM drives at least once or twice a week to prevent. USE TOP TIER GAS or ADD Techron with crap gas.
I did it, It didn't work.....
Thank you
2014 and newer Kia and Hyundai vehicles with a GDI engine (hint: nearly all of them - including those not covered by the lawsuit) have a fatal flaw where they will consume ever increasing amounts of oil leading to engine failure.
Unfortunately, replacing the PVC valve will not fix the problem.
Remove valves cover and clean 2 drain line. Inside the valve cover.
You will have no more problem with oli consumtion..
I’m also living in Peterborough
My Kia went thru so much oil I bought it in 5 quart containers. My dealer put in a new engine and gave me a loaner for 2 weeks. My cost? Zero.
DON'T BELIEVE THAT !!!!
@@johnalvey4684 Don’t believe what?
I bought Costco oil $30 for 10 qts..USUALLY NOT PCV. I had dealer check mine.------ 2017 Kia Sorento 69K miles UPDATE... 1st piston soak :FAILED. KIA had dealer do a 2nd piston soak. Got 700 miles until they check result of this one. I had them put in Valvoline restore & protect.. I also had them do an EPR 109 engine flush before 2nd soak. I put BG 44k in gas tank before dealer got car. Hey !!! There are you tube videos with Berryman B-12 piston soak and other piston soaks that work!!!... One put in a can of B-12 just in fuel tank and drove it real fast for 5 miles and unstuck those piston rings One put in Liqui Moly valve cleaner and drove fast for 4 tank fulls and got the oil burn down to nothing. I am doing short REDLINE RPM sprints to and from work to try to break the rings loose. I will UPDATE results of 2nd piston soak. If stil using more than 1qt /1k miles I might get a new long block from KIA. If it only kinda works... I will put in B-12 in gas tank and REDLINE it for a few miles.. Change your oil every 3k miles on GDI and do some high RPM drives at least once or twice a week to prevent. USE TOP TIER GAS or ADD Techron with crap gas.
i did change it . nothing change . just a liitle more ecceleration and smoother
USUALLY NOT PCV. I had dealer check mine.------ 2017 Kia Sorento 69K miles UPDATE... 1st piston soak :FAILED. KIA had dealer do a 2nd piston soak. Got 700 miles until they check result of this one. I had them put in Valvoline restore & protect.. I also had them do an EPR 109 engine flush before 2nd soak. I put BG 44k in gas tank before dealer got car. Hey !!! There are you tube videos with Berryman B-12 piston soak and other piston soaks that work!!!... One put in a can of B-12 just in fuel tank and drove it real fast for 5 miles and unstuck those piston rings One put in Liqui Moly valve cleaner and drove fast for 4 tank fulls and got the oil burn down to nothing. I am doing short REDLINE RPM sprints to and from work to try to break the rings loose. I will UPDATE results of 2nd piston soak. If stil using more than 1qt /1k miles I might get a new long block from KIA. If it only kinda works... I will put in B-12 in gas tank and REDLINE it for a few miles.. Change your oil every 3k miles on GDI and do some high RPM drives at least once or twice a week to prevent. USE TOP TIER GAS or ADD Techron with crap gas..;;;;
Have changed mine about 4 times; made no difference; its the rings;
It’s a cheap alternative to see before doing the rings, rather try 15$ before trying 4k plus on engine rebuild
USUALLY NOT PCV. I had dealer check mine.------ 2017 Kia Sorento 69K miles UPDATE... 1st piston soak :FAILED. KIA had dealer do a 2nd piston soak. Got 700 miles until they check result of this one. I had them put in Valvoline restore & protect.. I also had them do an EPR 109 engine flush before 2nd soak. I put BG 44k in gas tank before dealer got car. Hey !!! There are you tube videos with Berryman B-12 piston soak and other piston soaks that work!!!... One put in a can of B-12 just in fuel tank and drove it real fast for 5 miles and unstuck those piston rings One put in Liqui Moly valve cleaner and drove fast for 4 tank fulls and got the oil burn down to nothing. I am doing short REDLINE RPM sprints to and from work to try to break the rings loose. I will UPDATE results of 2nd piston soak. If stil using more than 1qt /1k miles I might get a new long block from KIA. If it only kinda works... I will put in B-12 in gas tank and REDLINE it for a few miles.. Change your oil every 3k miles on GDI and do some high RPM drives at least once or twice a week to prevent. USE TOP TIER GAS or ADD Techron with crap gas.
USUALLY NOT PCV. I had dealer check mine.------ 2017 Kia Sorento 69K miles UPDATE... 1st piston soak :FAILED. KIA had dealer do a 2nd piston soak. Got 700 miles until they check result of this one. I had them put in Valvoline restore & protect.. I also had them do an EPR 109 engine flush before 2nd soak. I put BG 44k in gas tank before dealer got car. Hey !!! There are you tube videos with Berryman B-12 piston soak and other piston soaks that work!!!... One put in a can of B-12 just in fuel tank and drove it real fast for 5 miles and unstuck those piston rings One put in Liqui Moly valve cleaner and drove fast for 4 tank fulls and got the oil burn down to nothing. I am doing short REDLINE RPM sprints to and from work to try to break the rings loose. I will UPDATE results of 2nd piston soak. If stil using more than 1qt /1k miles I might get a new long block from KIA. If it only kinda works... I will put in B-12 in gas tank and REDLINE it for a few miles.. Change your oil every 3k miles on GDI and do some high RPM drives at least once or twice a week to prevent. USE TOP TIER GAS or ADD Techron with crap gas..
I changed mine myself and it was easy, it took me 5 mins and my car now running better. She was consuming oil and when i take my filter out of my car too clean it i found a little bit of oil in my filter (i have a cold air intake on mine cuz i wanna ear my turbo). She was smoking like a catless car so i was confuse about that. This little pcv valve is a bitch when she fail. She create a small boost leak on my car too. My car was not burning excessively oil too, anyway now my car fix and that's it x)
My sons car burns 2qts 9n 2 weeks
@@warrenlouisiana2277 I’d recommend getting rid of the car asap, get a Honda or Toyota instead
Kia’s engines are junk
Change my pcv every 30k and it still burns oil
Best advice get a Honda or Toyota
Remove valve cover. From your car engine.
And clean 2 drain tubes..
Thera are inside. In The valve cover.
You have 2 drain lines on both side.
If remove 2 drains lines and clean them. You will have no more problem with oil...
Every car kia and hunday with 35 -80.000 Miles got same problem with oil. ..
If you dont clean the 2 oli drains. .
The oil will go to exaust and burn. It.
Then ashes going to plug your catalyc convertor..
Some people must replace catalyc convertor every 10-12 monthes.
@@mocnyjakniedzwiedz WOW!! First I read about this. How did you find out about this>??? Are you a mechanic or is this your experience. Here is mine>>>>>USUALLY NOT PCV. I had dealer check mine.------ 2017 Kia Sorento 69K miles UPDATE... 1st piston soak :FAILED. KIA had dealer do a 2nd piston soak. Got 700 miles until they check result of this one. I had them put in Valvoline restore & protect.. I also had them do an EPR 109 engine flush before 2nd soak. I put BG 44k in gas tank before dealer got car. Hey !!! There are you tube videos with Berryman B-12 piston soak and other piston soaks that work!!!... One put in a can of B-12 just in fuel tank and drove it real fast for 5 miles and unstuck those piston rings One put in Liqui Moly valve cleaner and drove fast for 4 tank fulls and got the oil burn down to nothing. I am doing short REDLINE RPM sprints to and from work to try to break the rings loose. I will UPDATE results of 2nd piston soak. If stil using more than 1qt /1k miles I might get a new long block from KIA. If it only kinda works... I will put in B-12 in gas tank and REDLINE it for a few miles.. Change your oil every 3k miles on GDI and do some high RPM drives at least once or twice a week to prevent. USE TOP TIER GAS or ADD Techron with crap gas..
@@mocnyjakniedzwiedz Why doesn't dealer know about this before they do a TSB222 and piston soak???
@@mocnyjakniedzwiedz Any picture to show these drain lines??
What year is your Kia btw?
It’s a 2016 Kia Optima sx
I also have the same year and model, very useful info. Thanks!
@@thesideofbeanspodcast no problem man👍, it’s a simple fix to try first, but if it doesn’t help I’d recommend getting your valves walnut blasted to clean the carbon build up I’m gonna do it soon👍
So after an oil change, when does the car start to consume oil? If the car starts to gradually consume oil and within 1k miles, the level went down to half or more, then there could be another issue than just a fuel dilution. If engine starts to consume oil after a 1 or 2k miles, then fuel dilution is possibly making the oil thin and then the viscosity of oil isn't 5w-20 any more, it is much thinner. As a test, you can try a light 5w-30 full synthetic oil such as Pennzoil Platinum and then Pennzoil Ultra Platinum. These oils are not as thick as others in the same grade.
functionally, what would the difference of diagnosis be if it were fuel dilution vs just pure oil getting past seized rings?
Your pvc valve will not fix your problem it the engine take it to your dealer and tell them you to start oil consumption test then you get chamber cleaning if that doesn’t work they will give you engine if you have power train warranty
That part changes in 3 mins..
I have 146,000 on mine and I burn 1 quart every 1000 miles, but I can live with it for now.
I concur. Fuck dealerships!
Hell yeah💪
Did it work?
It helped out, but did not fix the oil burning entirely
That will not fix it.
Not meant to be a 100% fix just something to try and aid with the burning of oil, plus it’s a cheap fix
@bapez31 I replaced it on a 2014 Kia Sportage and didn't help. It's actually using more now. Carbon builds on the valves, flakes off and clogs up the oil rings and won't let the oil drain. I'm going to try another fix by adding Berryman b12 through the sparkplug holes.
@@Kiskassklan best of luck to you, these engines are straight trash
@bapez31 Thanks! Before I bought it I thought I had researched fairly good on them and thought they were making better vehicles. I didn't once see anything about GDI engines. I have a sister in law that had a Hyundai SUV and loved it. She had no problems at all and put well over 200,000 miles on it. It must've been a year right before the GDI's. I did the " Italian tune up" yesterday, maybe that and Berryman B12 will fix it.
My 2017 Elantra just turned 98.000 miles, bought new. Its not using any oil between 4000 mile changes. Had a 2007 kia spectra, bought new. Sold it around 130.000 miles, it wasn't using any oil either, still running great. One thing I always do is follow the recommended break in procedures in the owners manuel. Dont drive it hard, no full throttle accelerations, dont maintain a steady speed, but vary the rpms while driving, but avoiding any high rpms 1st 1000 miles. I think the vast majority of complaints about kia and Hyundai come from 2nd and third party buyers who buy cars that have been poorly maintained, and driven like its a Corvette or something . Ive had 3 kias and the 1 Hyundai, all bought new, all were very reliable with no major issues with well over 100.000 miles, I bought a 2021 kia k5 GT LINE with premium package in May of 21. 20.000 miles now, no issues, as it should be. This one is GDI plus Turbo, so I'm going to be doing 3000 mile oil changes, its my intention to keep this one indefinitely, and Turbos are hard on oil.
Maybe a dummy believes your lies
I think you got a good plan, though 5k miles with a turbo and synthetic should still be very safe if you want to push a little longer. With that said, Kia / Hyundai has for sure made its fair share of trash motors - thankfully sounds like you’ve always got good ones.
Lock this problem number one didn’t happen until 2011 from 2011 to 2021. A lot of Sundays and Kia’s are having this oil consumption problem. It is very very bad and I was even reading went to catch on fire while you’re driving because the gas is going into the valves with the oil Not goood
This change will do nothing. If you’re burning that much oil the next thing that will happen is you will have a blown engine. Good news is that if you have kept all your oil change records kia will put in a new engine for free. Just happened to me 3 months ago. Go Kia.
Go to Carl's garage. Everything about the recall on the engines and oil consumption
@@tschidagirl72 No need to go to carls garage because Kia put a brand new engine in my car for freeee and now it runs great but thank you anyway.
@@jollyp1605 same here in 2018. Gonna be getting another one here soon unfortunately. I had the ksds upgrade put on it so now I have a lifetime warranty on it
Not on certain models of 2019 kias. Mine wasn't covered in that lawsuit. Nokia kia.
@@tschidagirl72NO, NOT EVERYTHING ABOUT THE RECALL, CARL'S GARAGE FAILED TO MENTION THAT KIA IS DENYING NEW ENGINES FOR THOSE WITH A REBUILT TITLE! I JUST GOT DENIED BASED ON THAT!
You helped me alot going to change mine
Change it yourself, I promise it is super easy on these cars.
I say the same thing. Dealers are a scam
Did it help?
It did but it didn’t fix the oil burning problem 100 percent, the main problem is in the gdi design and bad bearings
Nope, did not help at all.
Best advice get rid of the car and get a Honda or Toyota👍
Oh plz ! Just buy a car & see how far you will go with synthetic oil . Kia 's gdi engines are junk
They truly are man🤣
Did it fix your issue with burning oil after you changed the PCV?
It definitely helped but it didn’t solve the issue 100%, the real issue lies in a design flaw of the gdi Kia engines
With Kia and Hyundai, it’s likely a bad engine, good thing is you’re covered under warranty until 150 K 10years due to the lawsuit. Had my engine replaced at 130k a month ago. Just make sure The oil is filled to regular levels, and not sludge, or they’ll blame it on negligence and you lose the opportunity to get the engine replaced. So fill it up before u go. And enjoy your new engine. 😁
not true at all !!!! I HAVE 61000 ON MY KIA OPTIMA, & IT'SUSING A QUART EVERY 5 OR 6 HUNDRED MILES. KIA DEALER REFUSING TO FIX OR REPLACE ENGINE !!!!!
USUALLY NOT PCV. I had dealer check mine.------ 2017 Kia Sorento 69K miles UPDATE... 1st piston soak :FAILED. KIA had dealer do a 2nd piston soak. Got 700 miles until they check result of this one. I had them put in Valvoline restore & protect.. I also had them do an EPR 109 engine flush before 2nd soak. I put BG 44k in gas tank before dealer got car. Hey !!! There are you tube videos with Berryman B-12 piston soak and other piston soaks that work!!!... One put in a can of B-12 just in fuel tank and drove it real fast for 5 miles and unstuck those piston rings One put in Liqui Moly valve cleaner and drove fast for 4 tank fulls and got the oil burn down to nothing. I am doing short REDLINE RPM sprints to and from work to try to break the rings loose. I will UPDATE results of 2nd piston soak. If stil using more than 1qt /1k miles I might get a new long block from KIA. If it only kinda works... I will put in B-12 in gas tank and REDLINE it for a few miles.. Change your oil every 3k miles on GDI and do some high RPM drives at least once or twice a week to prevent. USE TOP TIER GAS or ADD Techron with crap gas..,,,,
Clickbait title…..the video provides zero answer to oil consumption and ‘ hopes’ that changing the pcv valve will help….given the class action lawsuit I seriously doubt the ‘fix’ is as simple as replacing a $15 part
A cheap try before spending thousands of dollars doesn’t sound to bad to me. Get a Honda or Toyota
USUALLY NOT PCV. I had dealer check mine.------ 2017 Kia Sorento 69K miles UPDATE... 1st piston soak :FAILED. KIA had dealer do a 2nd piston soak. Got 700 miles until they check result of this one. I had them put in Valvoline restore & protect.. I also had them do an EPR 109 engine flush before 2nd soak. I put BG 44k in gas tank before dealer got car. Hey !!! There are you tube videos with Berryman B-12 piston soak and other piston soaks that work!!!... One put in a can of B-12 just in fuel tank and drove it real fast for 5 miles and unstuck those piston rings One put in Liqui Moly valve cleaner and drove fast for 4 tank fulls and got the oil burn down to nothing. I am doing short REDLINE RPM sprints to and from work to try to break the rings loose. I will UPDATE results of 2nd piston soak. If stil using more than 1qt /1k miles I might get a new long block from KIA. If it only kinda works... I will put in B-12 in gas tank and REDLINE it for a few miles.. Change your oil every 3k miles on GDI and do some high RPM drives at least once or twice a week to prevent. USE TOP TIER GAS or ADD Techron with crap gas.....
Tried that on my friends car. It didn’t do shit. 3 girls I work with have Hyundais with the 2.4 and all 3 burn about a quart per 1000!
I’d recommend to trade the car in for a Honda or Toyota, and stay far away from Kia and Hyundai
KIA SAYS IT'S NORMAL FOR MY KIA OPTIMA TO BURN A QUART OF OIL EVERY 1000 mi.
it has 61000 mi. on it now ?????????
KIA SAYS THATS NORMAL ????
@@johnalvey4684 not normal!!! No car should do this, it’s an excuse to not fix your car and then when it finally stops working they will spin it around on you the customer. My best advice get rid of it now while it still works and get a Honda or Toyota
Well the oil burning problem is from improperly hardening of piston rings if you pull spark plugs out put a bore scope down the cylinders you will see the damage cylinder walls are all scored up how you going to keep oil in a scored cyl wall? You can't my wife bought a brand new Kia sole I always check the oil they put a new engin in at 4000 miles now it don't use any oil between changes its not the pvc valve or oil filter lol the cylinder walls are shot your oil controls ring can't do its job Kia has a bull shit department. But that don't work on me I'm a retired mechanic over 50 years Sean it all its ther problem they need to fix it lol they hate me I'm putting this all over the internet😅 fix your problem Kia. WE just got burned by ford with ther focus with that junk getrag transmission now this junk with bad rings. .my wife better. Not bring another junk home
@@jimtohmas898 I agree brother, I got rid of the Kia I now have an Acura that burns 0 oil👍stay far away from these crappy Kia/Hyundai engines haha
they charged me 50 bucks
So it has a ton of blowby
Exactly it sucks😭
Did this help your car?
It did but it didn’t 100% fix my oil problem, it definitely helped though👍
Я не понимаю о чём говорит
thats a joke
YOU ARE WRONG!
It’s a small cheap fix to try before spending thousands for other potential problems, want my best advice only purchase Honda and Toyota products stay far away from Kia and Hyundai!
😂
It won't fix it trust me mine burns that much at 48 thousand there motors are junk
USUALLY NOT PCV. I had dealer check mine.------ 2017 Kia Sorento 69K miles UPDATE... 1st piston soak :FAILED. KIA had dealer do a 2nd piston soak. Got 700 miles until they check result of this one. I had them put in Valvoline restore & protect.. I also had them do an EPR 109 engine flush before 2nd soak. I put BG 44k in gas tank before dealer got car. Hey !!! There are you tube videos with Berryman B-12 piston soak and other piston soaks that work!!!... One put in a can of B-12 just in fuel tank and drove it real fast for 5 miles and unstuck those piston rings One put in Liqui Moly valve cleaner and drove fast for 4 tank fulls and got the oil burn down to nothing. I am doing short REDLINE RPM sprints to and from work to try to break the rings loose. I will UPDATE results of 2nd piston soak. If stil using more than 1qt /1k miles I might get a new long block from KIA. If it only kinda works... I will put in B-12 in gas tank and REDLINE it for a few miles.. Change your oil every 3k miles on GDI and do some high RPM drives at least once or twice a week to prevent. USE TOP TIER GAS or ADD Techron with crap gas.,,,
I JUST READ THIS BELOW AND DID NOT SEE ON ANY OTHER UA-cam SITE!!>>>
@mocnyjakniedzwiedz
2 months ago
Remove valve cover. From your car engine.
And clean 2 drain tubes..
Thera are inside. In The valve cover.
You have 2 drain lines on both side.
If remove 2 drains lines and clean them. You will have no more problem with oil...
Every car kia and hunday with 35 -80.000 Miles got same problem with oil. ..
If you dont clean the 2 oli drains. .
The oil will go to exaust and burn. It.
Then ashes going to plug your catalyc convertor..
Some people must replace catalyc convertor every 10-12 monthes.
KIA & Hyundai backwards spells: TRASH!!!
Yes it does lol
Do it yourself, it takes about 2 minutes🤦♂
I was going in for a oil change so my mechanic switched it out free of charge
And generally speaking the average American doesn’t even have the tools to change a PCV Valve so they would probably take it to the mechanic.
Did it help ?
It did help but it did not solve the issue completely