When you are overaspected in a humour, you alienate everybody and essentially act as a one-trick pony who can only do that sort of humor riffing off of inflexible stale old comedians
It's important to note that Pneuma is not only "breath" in the literal sense but that in Greek cosmology it also refers to the "breath of the universe", a concept similar to "mana" in fictional mythologies or "aether" in FFXIV.
That and also it's the greek transliteration of the Hebrew "Ruach" (breath of life) first breathed into Adam n the Greek Septuagint translation of the Old Testament!
It's also worth noting that the humours have been a minor thing in XIV for as long as it's been a game, frequently mentioned in item descriptions of various kinds of blood. Usually talking about how the humours refuse to coagulate.
I really do love your channel, it seems to hit about every center I have of interest. Most notably, your AST videos did change my perception of astrology as a scholarly topic. Thank you
For the Choles I do believe each of them is named after a bile used to process certain things. Taurochole relates directly to the bile taurochenodeoxycholic acid which is heavily used when digesting meat and cholesterol heavy foods. Druochole being tree bile probably refers to the bile responsible for digesting cellulose, Kerachole likely refers to the bile that breaks down keratin. Ixochole means mistletoe bile so I have no clue what how that relates to anything we eat, maybe another bile that our bodies use to break down plants. They mostly make a lot of sense and all of them other then maybe Ixochole have a real life counterpart.
I did some quick research on Taurus as it relates to Greek medicine. The astrological signs are each associated with an element and a modality. The Taurus is a Fixed Earth sign. Fixed signs are said to be associated with slowness and resistance to change. In good humors, this translates to a resistance to disease, lasting vitality, and endurance. In-game, Kerachole and Taurachole are applied both when the target(s) are still in mostly good health (otherwise Ixochole may be used first, or Druochole / Eukrasian Diagnosis in addition to Taurochole) ahead of incoming damage. The damage mitigation and regeneration (by Kerakeia) make them great representatives of the Fixed Earth sign, Taurus.
Also, conversely in bad humors, Fixed signs are associated with disease and toxins gaining footholds, and reduced vitality. It would have been interesting if Eukrasian Dyskrasia was instead maybe Keradyskrasia
Thank you for sharing this! I initially made connections to Astrology and I may have overthought it, as I began thinking about the accompanying Tarot, the Hierophant, as it is in some cases associated with being "holy" or spiritual because it's often a depiction of the Pope. Which would make sense in a general way for protection or health. I think the Earth connection is more powerful though!
Thank you for the fun videos as always. Sage was the only healer where I had personally went and looked up the terminologies of their abilities when the EW media tour info released because I was like "it's all greek to me" and wanted to know more, considering I knew a lot of medical terminology comes from Greek. *pets the cat today*
Toxicon could also refer to the gods Apollo and Artemis. Apollo was known as a god of medicine, but the twins arrows could also be interpreted as plagues or sudden death. You could pray to Apollo for healing, or prayed to the twins to not bring their arrows down upon you. This association probably explains why the word toxic comes from word that originally meant archery.
A connection that popped into my mind in regards to taurochole and kerachole is that the sacrifice of bulls was a famous enough piece of ancient greek religion/culture that it pops up from time to time in the literature. Both of the abilities feature strong mitigation effects at the cost of an addersgall stack and so you could read those abilities as you sacrificing your addersgall (a very limited and important strategic resource) to receive divine favour/protection in the form the mitigation and healing provided by those abilities. Also I've heard that ixochole could be drawing from the greek word for mistletoe though I couldn't say for sure but if that is potentially correct then the two main healing uses of addersgall coming from the words for tree and mistletoe would make a lot of sense since components from both of those sources are thought to show up quite a lot in ancient medicine so the healing abilities being medicines does make a lot of sense.
Really cool video, thank you for the awesome insight! As a fan of etymology I really enjoyed this and didnt even know that adder was used to refer to snakes in general :D
The one ability you skipped, and the one I was hoping you'd cover, is Sage limit break Techne Makre, where they briefly summon a technological three. I'd like to know more about the references used for the ability.
Techne is where we get "technique" and it relates to art or creation of a craft. The second part "Makre" more directly means "long." However, this is part of a phrase that is really popular in both Greek and Latin. So within the context of the statement it is somewhat like "Life is short but art takes time." This statement is attributed to Hippocrates, the same one attributed with the origins of the Four Humors who was a physician. I have seen this interpreted in a few different ways as it was used in Latin quite a bit and appeared in some Christian texts. (I am mostly experienced in Christian and Church History). One interpretation is that Hippocrates is implying that life is too short for a Physician to ever perfect their craft. A second interpretation is that Hippocrates is stating that one's craft will always outlive them because of how short life is. I like the second one better personally, it just feels more hopeful! If you look up "ars longa, vita brevis" it should pull up more if you're interested, as that is the Latin bit of the phrase. 😺
Thank you! My only experience with Greek is through my religious studies where I had to learn some very basic preschool level Greek when I got my degree. So I hope I didn't butcher your language too much. Σε ευχαριστώ.
Thank you! That's really interesting. Funny enough, mistletoe, or viscum in Latin, at one point was banned by the Roman Catholic Church for its 'pagan' ties.
im from Cyprus so greek is my main language. another interesting things about Pneuma is that in greek Πνέυμα can be used for either “breath” literally or “spirit” in a more religious context. in Sages case its probably more to do with the literal one of breath but its still interesting
That's really cool! I mostly picked up on Greek through religious context because I primarily studied church history and the Christian Bible. I talked more about the context you mentioned (Pneuma being God's breath and the Holy Spirit 'Giver of Life') in a follow-up video!
Oh yayyyyyy I love nerdy etymological/linguistics videos like these! Take my sub! When you get to the part about Phlegma in particular, it got me thinking about water's elemental connotations in mythology/astrology in particular. Meaning how water is always associated with healing spells in a lot of RPGs, and the 3 water signs (Cancer/Scorpio/Pisces) are often said to be very emotional/compassionate. So why does being phlegmatic mean being distant/apathetic, and NOT emotional? Then I realized... as an empath personally, if I'm being attacked from all sides from my friends/loved ones all going through horrible trials in life, it causes me to effectively overdose on compassion and I become apathetic and removed for a brief time as a result. So brilliant.
I'm glad to be the 800th sub for you. This channel seems really interesting, and it's always fun to learn more about a game I have fallen in love with and other topics such as religion and the sorts of magics.
Sage is my favorite of the healers to play, and pretty much the only one that gets my full time attention when it comes to them. I'm normally an omni player, but when it's time to play as healer, I generally prefer Sage.
Pneuma literally means spirit in greek but is also halve the word lungs i.e pneumonia which is a disease of The lungs! So its basically a combination of those 2 things
I probably should have clarified that in the video but you're right. It is spirit, and it is also used for breathing in the way you described as is intertwined with the humors in this case.
i can't believe the alchemist combat class i've wanted was actually sage the laser mage this whole time
…I never noticed before that the four humors could very well be why the Sage weapon consists of four nouliths, ha.
“Yellow Bile, Fire.”
Someone wasn’t drinking enough water.
It has been my interpretation that when you use Phlegma, you are sneezing on the enemy for massive damage.
I like this interpretation 😹
if Goobues can do it, why can't we
@@Daimaza Become what you must. Become G o o b u e.
Shooting your enemies with phlegma balls from your nose sounds horrible. Go for it.
@@Daimaza If "Mega Sneeze" or whatever it's called isn't a Blue Mage ability yet, it should be
6:13 Daedalus told his son not to greed that GCD, but Icarus wouldn't listen.
4 humours: stand up, slapstick, dark, and romcom
I'd replace romcom with dry/sarcastic
When you are overaspected in a humour, you alienate everybody and essentially act as a one-trick pony who can only do that sort of humor riffing off of inflexible stale old comedians
It's important to note that Pneuma is not only "breath" in the literal sense but that in Greek cosmology it also refers to the "breath of the universe", a concept similar to "mana" in fictional mythologies or "aether" in FFXIV.
That and also it's the greek transliteration of the Hebrew "Ruach" (breath of life) first breathed into Adam n the Greek Septuagint translation of the Old Testament!
Ah yes
“Breath of the Universe”
Aka this rail gun
It's also worth noting that the humours have been a minor thing in XIV for as long as it's been a game, frequently mentioned in item descriptions of various kinds of blood. Usually talking about how the humours refuse to coagulate.
"that one main character DPS who ate helios's exaflare" he really did.
If Dyskrasia is the opposite of Eukrasia its pretty funny that in DT we’ll get Eukrasin Dyskrasia
If Eukrasia is The Good Stuff and Dyskrasia is The Bad Stuff, then Eukrasian Dyskrasia is The Good Bad Stuff.
Metal.
I am now forever going to refer to Nouliths as "my thinking rocks" XD
I really do love your channel, it seems to hit about every center I have of interest. Most notably, your AST videos did change my perception of astrology as a scholarly topic. Thank you
I'm happy I can showcase fun information!
Taurochole is the single target, and Kerachole is the AOE.
I reversed it in my head when recording, unfortunately 😿
For the Choles I do believe each of them is named after a bile used to process certain things. Taurochole relates directly to the bile taurochenodeoxycholic acid which is heavily used when digesting meat and cholesterol heavy foods. Druochole being tree bile probably refers to the bile responsible for digesting cellulose, Kerachole likely refers to the bile that breaks down keratin. Ixochole means mistletoe bile so I have no clue what how that relates to anything we eat, maybe another bile that our bodies use to break down plants. They mostly make a lot of sense and all of them other then maybe Ixochole have a real life counterpart.
Learning stuff like this makes me appreciate the jobs more. Thank you for the video! 😊
I know it's Phlegma, but there's just something funny about saying "Fleg-Ma Balls"
I did some quick research on Taurus as it relates to Greek medicine. The astrological signs are each associated with an element and a modality. The Taurus is a Fixed Earth sign. Fixed signs are said to be associated with slowness and resistance to change. In good humors, this translates to a resistance to disease, lasting vitality, and endurance.
In-game, Kerachole and Taurachole are applied both when the target(s) are still in mostly good health (otherwise Ixochole may be used first, or Druochole / Eukrasian Diagnosis in addition to Taurochole) ahead of incoming damage. The damage mitigation and regeneration (by Kerakeia) make them great representatives of the Fixed Earth sign, Taurus.
Also, conversely in bad humors, Fixed signs are associated with disease and toxins gaining footholds, and reduced vitality. It would have been interesting if Eukrasian Dyskrasia was instead maybe Keradyskrasia
Thank you for sharing this! I initially made connections to Astrology and I may have overthought it, as I began thinking about the accompanying Tarot, the Hierophant, as it is in some cases associated with being "holy" or spiritual because it's often a depiction of the Pope. Which would make sense in a general way for protection or health. I think the Earth connection is more powerful though!
Thank you for the fun videos as always. Sage was the only healer where I had personally went and looked up the terminologies of their abilities when the EW media tour info released because I was like "it's all greek to me" and wanted to know more, considering I knew a lot of medical terminology comes from Greek.
*pets the cat today*
Glad you enjoyed! And always pet cats 🐱
Toxicon could also refer to the gods Apollo and Artemis. Apollo was known as a god of medicine, but the twins arrows could also be interpreted as plagues or sudden death. You could pray to Apollo for healing, or prayed to the twins to not bring their arrows down upon you. This association probably explains why the word toxic comes from word that originally meant archery.
This is SO cool.
A connection that popped into my mind in regards to taurochole and kerachole is that the sacrifice of bulls was a famous enough piece of ancient greek religion/culture that it pops up from time to time in the literature. Both of the abilities feature strong mitigation effects at the cost of an addersgall stack and so you could read those abilities as you sacrificing your addersgall (a very limited and important strategic resource) to receive divine favour/protection in the form the mitigation and healing provided by those abilities.
Also I've heard that ixochole could be drawing from the greek word for mistletoe though I couldn't say for sure but if that is potentially correct then the two main healing uses of addersgall coming from the words for tree and mistletoe would make a lot of sense since components from both of those sources are thought to show up quite a lot in ancient medicine so the healing abilities being medicines does make a lot of sense.
It does seem that ixos is relating to Mistletoe which would make sense as you described. 🐱
Really cool video, thank you for the awesome insight! As a fan of etymology I really enjoyed this and didnt even know that adder was used to refer to snakes in general :D
It was a common usage in English for a while. Adder also appears multiple times in the KJV Bible to refer to snakes.
This is a neat video.
The one ability you skipped, and the one I was hoping you'd cover, is Sage limit break Techne Makre, where they briefly summon a technological three. I'd like to know more about the references used for the ability.
Techne is where we get "technique" and it relates to art or creation of a craft. The second part "Makre" more directly means "long." However, this is part of a phrase that is really popular in both Greek and Latin. So within the context of the statement it is somewhat like "Life is short but art takes time."
This statement is attributed to Hippocrates, the same one attributed with the origins of the Four Humors who was a physician. I have seen this interpreted in a few different ways as it was used in Latin quite a bit and appeared in some Christian texts. (I am mostly experienced in Christian and Church History). One interpretation is that Hippocrates is implying that life is too short for a Physician to ever perfect their craft. A second interpretation is that Hippocrates is stating that one's craft will always outlive them because of how short life is. I like the second one better personally, it just feels more hopeful!
If you look up "ars longa, vita brevis" it should pull up more if you're interested, as that is the Latin bit of the phrase. 😺
This is not only helping me to understand Greek and history, but it's also teach me how to play sage, 110/10 useful video 😮
I'm glad the information was useful!
No one can stop me from pronouncing the 'g' in Phlegma.
WOW. Super cool video!
Phlegma Balls
I can't believe that boss died of phlegma.
Good video. You have done a good research! From a Greek ffxiv player :)
Thank you! My only experience with Greek is through my religious studies where I had to learn some very basic preschool level Greek when I got my degree. So I hope I didn't butcher your language too much. Σε ευχαριστώ.
Tbf Elpis and the ascians have a lot of greek/roman names and social aspects
Ixochole could also have been derived from the word "ιξός" which is the word for Mistletoe. Mistletoe has long been used in ancient medicine.
Thank you! That's really interesting. Funny enough, mistletoe, or viscum in Latin, at one point was banned by the Roman Catholic Church for its 'pagan' ties.
You got the Kera/Taurchole mixed up; Taurchole is single target, Kera is AOE :D
im from Cyprus so greek is my main language. another interesting things about Pneuma is that in greek Πνέυμα can be used for either “breath” literally or “spirit” in a more religious context. in Sages case its probably more to do with the literal one of breath but its still interesting
That's really cool! I mostly picked up on Greek through religious context because I primarily studied church history and the Christian Bible. I talked more about the context you mentioned (Pneuma being God's breath and the Holy Spirit 'Giver of Life') in a follow-up video!
Oh yayyyyyy I love nerdy etymological/linguistics videos like these! Take my sub!
When you get to the part about Phlegma in particular, it got me thinking about water's elemental connotations in mythology/astrology in particular. Meaning how water is always associated with healing spells in a lot of RPGs, and the 3 water signs (Cancer/Scorpio/Pisces) are often said to be very emotional/compassionate. So why does being phlegmatic mean being distant/apathetic, and NOT emotional?
Then I realized... as an empath personally, if I'm being attacked from all sides from my friends/loved ones all going through horrible trials in life, it causes me to effectively overdose on compassion and I become apathetic and removed for a brief time as a result. So brilliant.
this was the best one of these so far to me.
I'm glad to be the 800th sub for you. This channel seems really interesting, and it's always fun to learn more about a game I have fallen in love with and other topics such as religion and the sorts of magics.
Thank you!
Wonderful breakdown
Babe wake up the magic cat posted about Greek things!
In all seriousness I loved this vid and am sending it to my friend who is learning Sage
Thank you. I'm glad people like it. 🐱
When Scholar get a video turn? 😢
Sage is my favorite of the healers to play, and pretty much the only one that gets my full time attention when it comes to them. I'm normally an omni player, but when it's time to play as healer, I generally prefer Sage.
Im starting to prefer sage over whm in terms of how fun it is.
Then again, sage & scholar are pretty similar.
Will you cover more terms for the new abilities of the jobs already covered some time after Dawntrail?
I'll probably do so once I get into it and level a bit. Whatever catches my interest I would love to talk about. 😸
Ur a meow cat! :0
11:33 did I hear a rock and stone?
Pneuma literally means spirit in greek but is also halve the word lungs i.e pneumonia which is a disease of The lungs! So its basically a combination of those 2 things
I probably should have clarified that in the video but you're right. It is spirit, and it is also used for breathing in the way you described as is intertwined with the humors in this case.
just so you know i will be giving you a detailed review if you ever do norse mythology in FF14
We may have to travel all the way back to ARR for that 😹