It’s a great review mate and you’ve done an exceptional job here. There’s an enormous amount of work put into this edit. The multiple locations while talking, it’a bloody brilliant Phil 👊 You need some stickers made up , unless have some already ?
Hahaha... Yes.. I need to actually pull my finger out my arse and get them stickers done... I can be a lazy bugger sometimes... Hahaha... Thanx Steve. Yeah... It takes a bit to get this sort of thing done, but I'm really happy with the way it came out and the way this new channel is progressing... It's been a journey... And I hope I can continue to improve... :D Thanx for the support mate! It is HUGELY appreciated.
I use MT Trail for more than 1 year on my hardcore hardtail and they work perfect. I would say that this is perfect brakes for aggressive hardtail as you don't need a lot of stopping power for your rear wheel but you need good modulation for better control.
Too true.. I have them on my Production Privee Shan as well... Solid brakes! Thanx for the comment and for watching mate... Really appreciate the support... Stay safe out there... :D
Thanks for the video Phill, it was very interesting and I enjoyed watching your performance. Great work as always. Continue to have fun with your brakes and hope to see you soon buddy. Ride on and have a nice weekend
Cheers Christoph... 'Twas a fun one to make this. The season is gonna kick off big time pretty soon if the current weather holds true... We deffo need to work in a plan soon! :D
@@TrailTales In any case, buddy, but give me time at the moment I'm not so fit, I'm still suffering from the effects of Corona. It's not that bad, but I have no power anymore. Take care and enjoy the weather Phill
@@ckMTB Will do man... Glad it's not a serious bout of the Rona and you're on the mend! The season is long and there are many a good sport between us... I'm sure we'll be able to slap a god old time together... :D
Yeah... They're not such a common set, but I have been really impressed with them. And they've been solid the entire time I've had them. Money well spent! :D
Great vid Phil!! I’ll be upgrading to Maguras when mine fail. I got to use them on the nicolai bike I rode in Germany, they were weird at first but grew to love them
Cheers Sage... Yeah. I like these brakes... They're a good set of stoppers. And at a good price as well. Thanx for watching mate... Really appreciate the support... :D
Great vid as usual "other Phil" ... Can't say I have ever changed brakes on a bike . I pretty much just ride what's given ... But I do understand people have there preferance when it comes to stopping power ✊.
Yeah man. I had some terrible brakes on that bike before. It was deffo a place they skimped on the build. So they needed to be swapped out. And these have been solid the entire time. Been really enjoying them. :D
Had these on my hardtail for 18months now - awesome. Had to downgrade my rear rotor from 180 to 160, to stop it instantly licking up, works well - more modulation. Be careful with tightening clamps, you must tighten the top bolt first then the bottom. Great brakes overall for my hardtail. Peace
For sure mate... Totally agree with all you said. I run these on both my bikes and have been very happy with them. Thanx for watching mate. And havea good week... :D
I'm glad you mentioned this because my LBS is recommending that I change my rear stock 160 mm rotor to 180 mm and that was my concern too, is having too much power in the back.
@@paulv8453 If going on a hardtail I would definitely stick with 160. Bonus is you don't need the adapter. Been running them now roughly two years - brilliant, still on original pads aswell. Peace
@@sinterior2626 I am riding a short travel full suspension bike designed for marathon rides and came stock with 180/160 and SRAM G2 R brakes which are very weak. I only weight about 68 kg, 150 lbs. With your 180/160 setup, do both brake levers feel the same or is there any distinguishable difference? My other option is going with 4 pot Shimano XT brakes. Thanks
@@paulv8453 I'm weighing around 74kgs. On my full suspension 150/140 it came stock with SRAM guideR 203f/180r. I wish they would break so I can put Magura Trails on that. I have found on my hardtail which I use for light trail and cross country the Magura's are leaps and bounds ahead of the SRAM. Regarding feel, when I had the 180 on the rear the brakes felt terribly balanced, just instantly wanted to lock up. Changed back down to 160 with my original Avid brake disc, and the balance is beautiful. The lever feel is really light when cruising on the brake and provides loads of feedback when pulling hard applying the anchors but in an easy too judge modulated way. I'd stick with the 160 on the rear and upgrade if needed. Unless your dragging your rear brake down long descents (overheating) I think you'll find the 160 will be great. Peace
Cheers Mate! Yeah... Give them a go if you're in the market for a new set of stoppers. I've been really happy with them. :D And thanx for watching and the support. Means a lot to me... How's the old flapper healing up??
@@TrailTales better than expected, I managed a mini kitchen make over over the past 4 days and it's not complaining too much. I've got an Dr appointment on Tuesday, I'll ask her if I can get back on my bike😁
@@bumpsahead You need them doctors the moto GP guys use. Straight out the operating theater to a set of push-ups to a moto GP race the next day... None of this "six weeks off the bike" malarkey! A person has a life to live! Although my surgeon told me after my Op the guy he plated up before me tried to dive across the country the day after his Op and managed to pull his plate loose... He said to me "You do some dumb shit like that and there's no more place in the bone for more screws... Don't do dumb shit!" I think he knew... I do a LOT of dumb shit! Hahahaha Glad you healing up good mate! Always nice when this go BETTER than expected... :D
Hi. One might get the impression that you are very satisfied with these brakes... XD ;-) Very very nice and elaborately made film, mate. Stay safe and have f... nice sunny sunday. Cheers.
@@TrailTales Muuuuuuaa-ha-ha great ^_^ Thanx mate: shoulder is getting really, reeeeeeally slow but I'm already at about 40 degrees of passive elevation. Keep fighting. Cheers.
Magura have been selling pretty well at the shop I work in. The MT7's mainly but that's because they've been going on big enduro's and E-bikes.... I fancy a pair myself... Germans know how to engineer good shit.
@@TrailTales Are they the 2 piece brake pads or the 4 piece? The 4 piece are really easy, they just slot in from the top like every other brake, but with the magnets it's much better.
This is awesome. I’m building up my steed and I’m going with these same brakes. Which rotors did you go with? My other whip has Hayes Dominion’s on it. Hope these are just as good or I hope better 😎. Awesome review. Thanks for sharing your feedback.
Thanx for the comments mate... Really appreciate the support... :D On my enduro I run some "el Cheapo" rotors. I don't even know the make of the front one (I just liked the way it looked - 203mm) and a tiny 160mm Nano on the back (I also just liked the way it looked) and there is still enough power there. The HT runs a 180mm XT rotor on the back and a 203mm Avid on the front. The HT has better stopping power than the Enduro to be fair. I am going to replace the rotors on the enduro in the next few weeks to Magura rotors (203mm up front and a 180mm on the back) as I have a big trip planned for the middle of the year. So I'll do a review on those once they've been run for a bit...
Yeah... As a "budget brake" I can't really fault them. Brakes are a personal thing... But I really like these. I'm actually planning on moving these over to my new bike when my brake pads need replacing...
How do you compare the Magura MT brakes and the E4 IIIPRO? Is it worth upgrading from the Magura MT to the E4? Currently using the Magura on EMTB and the rear brake feels weak...
Given the option... I'd stay on the MT's... Although it depends on which MT's you have. The 5's (?) are a bit binary - or at least from what I've heard... But the 7's and Trail sports are a smidge better... IMHO.
Cheers mate... I run 203's up front on both bikes (el-cheapo light weight on the enduro and avic on the HT) and on the rear 160mm dartmoore nano on the enduro and 180mm shimano XT on the HT. The pads last longer on the HT and it stops a bit better. Both also stop really "smoothly". I noticed on my mate's bike (He has MT5's with magura rotors) that he has a bit of "shudder" on the front under heavy braking. My brother also has this bit of "shudder" on the front and he's running 180mm Shimano Deore rotors. So there's that to consider as well...
@@TrailTales thanks for getting back to me so promptly! And I really appreciate the inputs. I ordered the trail sport :D. I’m currently running Shimano Deore BL-MT506 brake set that came with my bike. This summer I upgraded rotors to both XT (203 and 180mm from 180 and 160mm). That improved them but it’s not enough stopping power that I’m looking for. I’ve been looking into getting the Magura MT Trail and I’m glad I saw your great review. That really helps. I’ve been thinking about ordering the Magura rotors as well because they say the minimum rotor thickness should be 1.8 mm and the Shimanos are 1.8 brand new, so… Thanks so much for this info, mate!
Didn't try the 2 pots, but the MT5 modulation is not bad. Certainly better than the Shimano nothing then anchor feel. After Sram codes it took a bit of getting used to, but the modulation is there.
Pretty kind price for a full setup front and rear. I bought a set of Shimano XT last year which cost me about $500 AU. It's difficult getting anything right now, but Magura is really hard to get down at the ass end of the world.
Yeah... I've had to scratch around a bit for parts that I need (As well as bodge together a working derailleur once) So I know them feels... And yes... The price on them in really good! Thanx for watching mate! Really appreciate it. Keep safe and have a good Sunday! :D
Hey nice video...i bought the trail sports my self, but i kinda fell like the pressurepoint on rear brake comes too late, can u say, what the usual levertravel on the rear brake is like? That would help me a lot...greets sarah
Hi Sarah... I wouldn't say that I hav noticed a "late" preasure point on the rear at all. Even in comparison to other sets of brakes I've used. Although... Having run a few different disks in combination with the Trail Sports... I have notoced a difference in feel and power. Do you run the brand and model disks on both ends ofthe bike?
@@TrailTales yes i do, i run rhe trail sport as it comes, in combination with mdr-c cl 180mm rotors, the ones magura recommends.. ...i was on shimano before, maybe i need to get used to the breaks...🤔 When i rewatched the vid like 10th time, i realized on point one can see what ur lever travel is like, looks pretty much the same on my brakes...but on my front brake i get pressure point on less lever travel...thats why im confused...maybe i should have gone for the mt5...🤔 Thanks a lot for ur answer and help, thats very kind... wish a chilled out sunday and good start into next week for u and ur folks.! 😘
@@sarahbraun2496 Oh... OK... Now I follow you... Maybe try clicking the lever out a bit more with the lever position grub screw in the front of the lever... It's a little hex-screw. I usually adjust them out so that the "bite point" is in the same place on both sides. Give that a try and let me know... If that doesn't help... it might just need a bleed...
@@TrailTales sure thats a good advice to get the brakepoint further away from handlebar, but its kinda weird to have the levers on diffrent distance to the handlebar( even as u hardly can see it😅) ...if i got u right u have both lever on max travel(?), so when u pull em to brakepoint, will they be on same distance to handlebar or is it diffrent? ..and thanks a lot again for ur help😊
@@sarahbraun2496 Yes... I like my bite point to be a bit further away from the bars. So when the levers are dialled all the way out, the bite point is where I want it... And it's near enough as makes no difference the same on both sides... If I need to adjust the levers to get the bite point the same... Then the difference in lever position when the brakes aren't being pulled doesn't bother me because I "pull" the levers slightly when covering the brakes... Fortnine did a REALLY good video on covering the brakes. It's for motorbikes, but the theory and physics behind it (and how it affects traction under braking) are the same for MTB. Might be worth checking out . And then... If you still cant get it feeling right. It might need a bleed.
Is like on my motorbike i hade 2 huge disc wit two caliper wit 6 pistone each on the front And a single pistone Little disc at the back briliant from magura importing some motorbike type breaking
For sure... Most of the stopping power comes from the front in any event. So may as well trim the extra costs off the back! And they work really good as well... Deffo gonna swap these out onto my new bike in a month or two... not hapüpy with the brakes on it... MUCH prefer these!
Thank you for the great review. These brakes came on my hardtail. I wanted to like these brakes. My 4 pot front would never dial in. It was noisy with modulation issues. My mechanic worked on it as did I. Finally got the rear dialed in but the front was never smooth and quiet. Busted my rear brake lever in a bad crash and changed to Shimano XT.
I have noticed that the Trail Sports (and Magura in general I believe)do behave differently with differnt disk rotors... My brothers set "shudder" a bit due to the rotor he has, and my current front rotor has a different feel to the old rotor I needed to replace (old one got bent when I travelled with my bike in the summer)... So that could have been the difference in experience... Just a though... Thanx for watching mate! Really appreciate it... And have a good week!
Man I really enjoyed the layout and delivery of this review. I’ve been so close several times purchasing these exact brakes but for no reason I didn’t . I love a soft brake and like them to work with out skidding as soon as you touch them. In fact guys who ride my bike love but hate how soft my levers are. I do ride the brakes I’ll be honest lol. Would you recommend them for someone of my liking and needs in a brake? Thanks for sharing this video I found it superb . Have fun on your bike trip 🤙
Eek... Recommending something is always tough because everyone has different preferences... But these are not on/off brakes. There's a really good amount of control in them. Which is noice! I mean... I did get two sets... And my brother also got a set for his bike. So there is that... :D Also... Thanx for the kind words and for watching! Really appreciate it... :D
You could... If you swap them out (the 4 pot comes pre-installed on the long hose and the 2 pot on the short), and do a bleed. Although I couldn't imagine why you'd prefer that. A vast majority of your stopping power comes off the front so it's better to have the more powerful stopper up front...
@@TrailTales Thanks for the info :) The beginner in me is saying I need quad for the rear and dual for the front so I don't go OTB if that makes sense 😂 anyway I was about to go with the mt5 but I think I like the 1 finger lever on the mt trail.. Mt7 are out of budget and replacing the mt5 levers are an added cost. Thanks for this review and answering my question.
@@mickeelacerna4511 No worries mate... I'd still go 4-pot up front though. The modulation on the Trail Sports is really nice and you'll appreciate that extra power up front as you progress. Glad you liked the vid man. And keep me up-dated which way you decide to go... :D
I recently rode a bike with Magura MTThirtys and they were excellent. I’m not quite ready to trade in my 10 year old Shimano Saints though, which are still my favorite brakes ever.
Hahaha yeah... I like to stick to what I like and know more than jump around for the sake of it... If it ain't broke. Don't fix it. I wouldn't mind hopping on a set of the spensive Maguras though... to see if there is a big difference... Would be fun! :D
It's always a tough one trying to eek out the best on a budget... 've not had a good go on the codes so I'd not like to put my hat on the table as to which is the more powerful... But these MT Trails do a good job at stopping a person. The ability to "add" a bit of extra stop through using the "race" pads is also nice... Also... Thanx for watching and the comments...
I don't know anything about a super73... Had a quick look online, but couldn't (easily) find the brake specs for it. From the pictures it looks like they use a very different lever to standard MTB brakes... So I really wouldn't be sure mate...
I've till got those C1's that came off the enduro if you feel like murdering yourself?!? I still can't figure out why nobody took me up on the offer of getting them off of me for free... Hahahah
@@TrailTales that’s good, I have the budget Shimano 4 pots, they stop okay but I’m not a fan of the brake levers, I assume the plastic mounts on the Magura haven’t been a problem for you?
@@molley17 No... Haven't have any issues with them. They don't have "connectors" on them though. So you will need additional connectors for your dropper and shifter... They don't cost much though. Around €12 or so...
It’s a great review mate and you’ve done an exceptional job here. There’s an enormous amount of work put into this edit. The multiple locations while talking, it’a bloody brilliant Phil 👊 You need some stickers made up , unless have some already ?
Hahaha... Yes.. I need to actually pull my finger out my arse and get them stickers done... I can be a lazy bugger sometimes... Hahaha...
Thanx Steve. Yeah... It takes a bit to get this sort of thing done, but I'm really happy with the way it came out and the way this new channel is progressing... It's been a journey... And I hope I can continue to improve... :D
Thanx for the support mate! It is HUGELY appreciated.
I use MT Trail for more than 1 year on my hardcore hardtail and they work perfect. I would say that this is perfect brakes for aggressive hardtail as you don't need a lot of stopping power for your rear wheel but you need good modulation for better control.
Too true.. I have them on my Production Privee Shan as well... Solid brakes!
Thanx for the comment and for watching mate... Really appreciate the support... Stay safe out there... :D
Thanks for the video Phill, it was very interesting and I enjoyed watching your performance. Great work as always.
Continue to have fun with your brakes and hope to see you soon buddy. Ride on and have a nice weekend
Cheers Christoph... 'Twas a fun one to make this. The season is gonna kick off big time pretty soon if the current weather holds true... We deffo need to work in a plan soon! :D
@@TrailTales In any case, buddy, but give me time at the moment I'm not so fit, I'm still suffering from the effects of Corona. It's not that bad, but I have no power anymore. Take care and enjoy the weather Phill
@@ckMTB Will do man... Glad it's not a serious bout of the Rona and you're on the mend! The season is long and there are many a good sport between us... I'm sure we'll be able to slap a god old time together... :D
@@TrailTales In any case, I'm already looking forward to it.
@@ckMTB As well mate! I recon it'll be BALLER!
Little review of the Margura MT trail Sports I've been running for around a year... All me thoughts!
You helped me make up my mind. Going to get these put on during the off season. 🤘
Cool... I do like these stoppers... They're a great set. Hope you like 'em as well... :D
As a newbie I had no idea about these brakes. The engineering on them seem amazing. Great review and vid. The lavaliere mic sound great.
Yeah... They're not such a common set, but I have been really impressed with them. And they've been solid the entire time I've had them. Money well spent! :D
Great vid Phil!! I’ll be upgrading to Maguras when mine fail. I got to use them on the nicolai bike I rode in Germany, they were weird at first but grew to love them
That Nicolai was sweet AF mate!
Also... Magura make some nice sets of brakes... Those Fabio Wibmer signature series ones look so good! :D
Great review Phil. I've never tried Maguras before but you make a good case for them.
Cheers Sage... Yeah. I like these brakes... They're a good set of stoppers. And at a good price as well.
Thanx for watching mate... Really appreciate the support... :D
Great vid as usual "other Phil" ... Can't say I have ever changed brakes on a bike . I pretty much just ride what's given ... But I do understand people have there preferance when it comes to stopping power ✊.
Yeah man. I had some terrible brakes on that bike before. It was deffo a place they skimped on the build. So they needed to be swapped out. And these have been solid the entire time. Been really enjoying them. :D
Had these on my hardtail for 18months now - awesome. Had to downgrade my rear rotor from 180 to 160, to stop it instantly licking up, works well - more modulation. Be careful with tightening clamps, you must tighten the top bolt first then the bottom. Great brakes overall for my hardtail. Peace
For sure mate... Totally agree with all you said. I run these on both my bikes and have been very happy with them.
Thanx for watching mate. And havea good week... :D
I'm glad you mentioned this because my LBS is recommending that I change my rear stock 160 mm rotor to 180 mm and that was my concern too, is having too much power in the back.
@@paulv8453 If going on a hardtail I would definitely stick with 160. Bonus is you don't need the adapter. Been running them now roughly two years - brilliant, still on original pads aswell. Peace
@@sinterior2626 I am riding a short travel full suspension bike designed for marathon rides and came stock with 180/160 and SRAM G2 R brakes which are very weak. I only weight about 68 kg, 150 lbs. With your 180/160 setup, do both brake levers feel the same or is there any distinguishable difference? My other option is going with 4 pot Shimano XT brakes. Thanks
@@paulv8453 I'm weighing around 74kgs. On my full suspension 150/140 it came stock with SRAM guideR 203f/180r. I wish they would break so I can put Magura Trails on that. I have found on my hardtail which I use for light trail and cross country the Magura's are leaps and bounds ahead of the SRAM. Regarding feel, when I had the 180 on the rear the brakes felt terribly balanced, just instantly wanted to lock up. Changed back down to 160 with my original Avid brake disc, and the balance is beautiful. The lever feel is really light when cruising on the brake and provides loads of feedback when pulling hard applying the anchors but in an easy too judge modulated way. I'd stick with the 160 on the rear and upgrade if needed. Unless your dragging your rear brake down long descents (overheating) I think you'll find the 160 will be great. Peace
Another great vid Phill! I had no idea that these even existed ☺️ I like modulation, might be tempted to upgrade my old hardtail 🤔
Cheers Mate! Yeah... Give them a go if you're in the market for a new set of stoppers. I've been really happy with them. :D
And thanx for watching and the support. Means a lot to me... How's the old flapper healing up??
@@TrailTales better than expected, I managed a mini kitchen make over over the past 4 days and it's not complaining too much. I've got an Dr appointment on Tuesday, I'll ask her if I can get back on my bike😁
@@bumpsahead You need them doctors the moto GP guys use. Straight out the operating theater to a set of push-ups to a moto GP race the next day... None of this "six weeks off the bike" malarkey! A person has a life to live!
Although my surgeon told me after my Op the guy he plated up before me tried to dive across the country the day after his Op and managed to pull his plate loose... He said to me "You do some dumb shit like that and there's no more place in the bone for more screws... Don't do dumb shit!" I think he knew... I do a LOT of dumb shit! Hahahaha
Glad you healing up good mate! Always nice when this go BETTER than expected... :D
Hi. One might get the impression that you are very satisfied with these brakes... XD ;-) Very very nice and elaborately made film, mate. Stay safe and have f... nice sunny sunday. Cheers.
Hahaha... Yes... One might get that impression... I'm not sure why though... Hahahaha
How you been keeping??
@@TrailTales Muuuuuuaa-ha-ha great ^_^ Thanx mate: shoulder is getting really, reeeeeeally slow but I'm already at about 40 degrees of passive elevation. Keep fighting. Cheers.
@@D0nP3dro Good to hear mate... Slowly getting better is good... Hope it continues on that path!! :D
@@TrailTales 😌🙏🏼mate. Babysteps but steps 💪🏼
@@D0nP3dro good to hear mate...
Magura have been selling pretty well at the shop I work in. The MT7's mainly but that's because they've been going on big enduro's and E-bikes.... I fancy a pair myself... Germans know how to engineer good shit.
For sure. The magnet system on the fronts are a bit of a ball ache to swap out. But I really like them. Nice brakes them.
@@TrailTales Are they the 2 piece brake pads or the 4 piece? The 4 piece are really easy, they just slot in from the top like every other brake, but with the magnets it's much better.
@@JEMTB90 they're the two piece. It's not an impossible task swapping them out. Just more of a mission that it should be....
This is awesome. I’m building up my steed and I’m going with these same brakes.
Which rotors did you go with?
My other whip has Hayes Dominion’s on it. Hope these are just as good or I hope better 😎.
Awesome review. Thanks for sharing your feedback.
Thanx for the comments mate... Really appreciate the support... :D
On my enduro I run some "el Cheapo" rotors. I don't even know the make of the front one (I just liked the way it looked - 203mm) and a tiny 160mm Nano on the back (I also just liked the way it looked) and there is still enough power there. The HT runs a 180mm XT rotor on the back and a 203mm Avid on the front. The HT has better stopping power than the Enduro to be fair.
I am going to replace the rotors on the enduro in the next few weeks to Magura rotors (203mm up front and a 180mm on the back) as I have a big trip planned for the middle of the year. So I'll do a review on those once they've been run for a bit...
Awesome vid mate. I think I’m going to buy a pair now🙂🙂
Yeah man... I really like these brakes.
And thanx for watching mate, I really appreciate the support... :D
Nice! Brakes still Strong? Worth buying ?
Yeah... As a "budget brake" I can't really fault them. Brakes are a personal thing... But I really like these. I'm actually planning on moving these over to my new bike when my brake pads need replacing...
How do you compare the Magura MT brakes and the E4 IIIPRO? Is it worth upgrading from the Magura MT to the E4? Currently using the Magura on EMTB and the rear brake feels weak...
Given the option... I'd stay on the MT's... Although it depends on which MT's you have. The 5's (?) are a bit binary - or at least from what I've heard... But the 7's and Trail sports are a smidge better... IMHO.
Great review. Thanks man. What rotors and what sizes do you run?
Cheers mate... I run 203's up front on both bikes (el-cheapo light weight on the enduro and avic on the HT) and on the rear 160mm dartmoore nano on the enduro and 180mm shimano XT on the HT. The pads last longer on the HT and it stops a bit better. Both also stop really "smoothly". I noticed on my mate's bike (He has MT5's with magura rotors) that he has a bit of "shudder" on the front under heavy braking. My brother also has this bit of "shudder" on the front and he's running 180mm Shimano Deore rotors. So there's that to consider as well...
@@TrailTales thanks for getting back to me so promptly! And I really appreciate the inputs. I ordered the trail sport :D. I’m currently running Shimano Deore BL-MT506 brake set that came with my bike. This summer I upgraded rotors to both XT (203 and 180mm from 180 and 160mm). That improved them but it’s not enough stopping power that I’m looking for. I’ve been looking into getting the Magura MT Trail and I’m glad I saw your great review. That really helps. I’ve been thinking about ordering the Magura rotors as well because they say the minimum rotor thickness should be 1.8 mm and the Shimanos are 1.8 brand new, so… Thanks so much for this info, mate!
@@jerrybondoc9328 No worries mate.... I've been really happy with mine so far. They're a great set of brakes. :D
Didn't try the 2 pots, but the MT5 modulation is not bad. Certainly better than the Shimano nothing then anchor feel. After Sram codes it took a bit of getting used to, but the modulation is there.
I've not tried the MT5's yet... But my mate said he didn't like the modulation much... On these it's really nice... :D
Pretty kind price for a full setup front and rear. I bought a set of Shimano XT last year which cost me about $500 AU. It's difficult getting anything right now, but Magura is really hard to get down at the ass end of the world.
Yeah... I've had to scratch around a bit for parts that I need (As well as bodge together a working derailleur once) So I know them feels... And yes... The price on them in really good!
Thanx for watching mate! Really appreciate it. Keep safe and have a good Sunday! :D
They're much easier now with a big distributer in Sydney... Just need to know a good local bike shop ;) ha ha.
@@JEMTB90 not naming names, but my LBS sucks ass.
@@RideyRodney I could think of 99 names... ha ha.
Hey nice video...i bought the trail sports my self, but i kinda fell like the pressurepoint on rear brake comes too late, can u say, what the usual levertravel on the rear brake is like? That would help me a lot...greets sarah
Hi Sarah... I wouldn't say that I hav noticed a "late" preasure point on the rear at all. Even in comparison to other sets of brakes I've used. Although... Having run a few different disks in combination with the Trail Sports... I have notoced a difference in feel and power. Do you run the brand and model disks on both ends ofthe bike?
@@TrailTales yes i do, i run rhe trail sport as it comes, in combination with mdr-c cl 180mm rotors, the ones magura recommends..
...i was on shimano before, maybe i need to get used to the breaks...🤔
When i rewatched the vid like 10th time, i realized on point one can see what ur lever travel is like, looks pretty much the same on my brakes...but on my front brake i get pressure point on less lever travel...thats why im confused...maybe i should have gone for the mt5...🤔
Thanks a lot for ur answer and help, thats very kind... wish a chilled out sunday and good start into next week for u and ur folks.! 😘
@@sarahbraun2496 Oh... OK... Now I follow you... Maybe try clicking the lever out a bit more with the lever position grub screw in the front of the lever... It's a little hex-screw. I usually adjust them out so that the "bite point" is in the same place on both sides.
Give that a try and let me know... If that doesn't help... it might just need a bleed...
@@TrailTales sure thats a good advice to get the brakepoint further away from handlebar, but its kinda weird to have the levers on diffrent distance to the handlebar( even as u hardly can see it😅) ...if i got u right u have both lever on max travel(?), so when u pull em to brakepoint, will they be on same distance to handlebar or is it diffrent? ..and thanks a lot again for ur help😊
@@sarahbraun2496 Yes... I like my bite point to be a bit further away from the bars. So when the levers are dialled all the way out, the bite point is where I want it... And it's near enough as makes no difference the same on both sides...
If I need to adjust the levers to get the bite point the same... Then the difference in lever position when the brakes aren't being pulled doesn't bother me because I "pull" the levers slightly when covering the brakes...
Fortnine did a REALLY good video on covering the brakes. It's for motorbikes, but the theory and physics behind it (and how it affects traction under braking) are the same for MTB. Might be worth checking out .
And then... If you still cant get it feeling right. It might need a bleed.
Is like on my motorbike i hade 2 huge disc wit two caliper wit 6 pistone each on the front
And a single pistone Little disc at the back briliant from magura importing some motorbike type breaking
For sure... Most of the stopping power comes from the front in any event. So may as well trim the extra costs off the back! And they work really good as well... Deffo gonna swap these out onto my new bike in a month or two... not hapüpy with the brakes on it... MUCH prefer these!
I bought the mt5 t'ho because they weee on sale but id wanted the Trail sport
@@flipzic Cool man. My mate ran mt5's for a long while and had no complaints... Hope you like them bud!!
I think i found One of the chillest youtuber out here
Thaks man i Hope they go well with my bike
@@flipzic Cheers mate... Hope they work out... Lemme know what you think!
Good video buddy 👍🔥
Cheers mate! Thanx for the support and comments! Glad you liked the vid.... Keep safe and have a good weekend!! :D
Thank you for the great review. These brakes came on my hardtail. I wanted to like these brakes. My 4 pot front would never dial in. It was noisy with modulation issues. My mechanic worked on it as did I. Finally got the rear dialed in but the front was never smooth and quiet. Busted my rear brake lever in a bad crash and changed to Shimano XT.
I have noticed that the Trail Sports (and Magura in general I believe)do behave differently with differnt disk rotors... My brothers set "shudder" a bit due to the rotor he has, and my current front rotor has a different feel to the old rotor I needed to replace (old one got bent when I travelled with my bike in the summer)... So that could have been the difference in experience... Just a though...
Thanx for watching mate! Really appreciate it... And have a good week!
Man I really enjoyed the layout and delivery of this review. I’ve been so close several times purchasing these exact brakes but for no reason I didn’t . I love a soft brake and like them to work with out skidding as soon as you touch them. In fact guys who ride my bike love but hate how soft my levers are. I do ride the brakes I’ll be honest lol. Would you recommend them for someone of my liking and needs in a brake? Thanks for sharing this video I found it superb . Have fun on your bike trip 🤙
Eek... Recommending something is always tough because everyone has different preferences... But these are not on/off brakes. There's a really good amount of control in them. Which is noice! I mean... I did get two sets... And my brother also got a set for his bike. So there is that... :D
Also... Thanx for the kind words and for watching! Really appreciate it... :D
are you in rotenfels in germany?
@@Hellcat98 yes.
Can i mount the quad piston caliper as a rear brake then the dual piston for the front?
You could... If you swap them out (the 4 pot comes pre-installed on the long hose and the 2 pot on the short), and do a bleed. Although I couldn't imagine why you'd prefer that. A vast majority of your stopping power comes off the front so it's better to have the more powerful stopper up front...
@@TrailTales Thanks for the info :) The beginner in me is saying I need quad for the rear and dual for the front so I don't go OTB if that makes sense 😂 anyway I was about to go with the mt5 but I think I like the 1 finger lever on the mt trail.. Mt7 are out of budget and replacing the mt5 levers are an added cost. Thanks for this review and answering my question.
@@mickeelacerna4511 No worries mate... I'd still go 4-pot up front though. The modulation on the Trail Sports is really nice and you'll appreciate that extra power up front as you progress. Glad you liked the vid man. And keep me up-dated which way you decide to go... :D
good video friend!! thanks for sharing and greetings 🙋 #ivan_mtb
Cheers mate... Appreciate the comments!! Thanx for watching and keep safe! :D
Have a good weekend mate.
I recently rode a bike with Magura MTThirtys and they were excellent. I’m not quite ready to trade in my 10 year old Shimano Saints though, which are still my favorite brakes ever.
Hahaha yeah... I like to stick to what I like and know more than jump around for the sake of it... If it ain't broke. Don't fix it.
I wouldn't mind hopping on a set of the spensive Maguras though... to see if there is a big difference... Would be fun! :D
Nice riview, thanks for sharing. New friend from Indonesia. Success for your channel 👍
Cheers mate!! Really appreciate the support... Thanx for stopping by and watching. :D
So I am standing between these maguras or sram code. I have started to race downhill so I need something powerfull but so it won't empty my wallet.
It's always a tough one trying to eek out the best on a budget... 've not had a good go on the codes so I'd not like to put my hat on the table as to which is the more powerful... But these MT Trails do a good job at stopping a person. The ability to "add" a bit of extra stop through using the "race" pads is also nice...
Also... Thanx for watching and the comments...
Really thanks for the answer. It is very hard to pick parts like brakes. Bc nealy everything is so simular, but not shimano they are guchi af
@@izabelalidzbarska1657 Hahaha... If you think Shimano are Gucchi... Don't go looking at Trick Stuff... :D
Do you think these will work well with a super73?
I don't know anything about a super73... Had a quick look online, but couldn't (easily) find the brake specs for it. From the pictures it looks like they use a very different lever to standard MTB brakes... So I really wouldn't be sure mate...
@@TrailTales Yeah I wasn't to find the specs either, thanks for trying though.
@@CheeseCream1205 No worries mate... :D
And where are my new brakes? :P
I've till got those C1's that came off the enduro if you feel like murdering yourself?!? I still can't figure out why nobody took me up on the offer of getting them off of me for free... Hahahah
Nice video keep sharing
Cheers mate... Thanx for stopping by and watching. Really appreciate that.
Keep safe and have a good week! :D
Would you still recommend them?
I do... I am in fact planning on swapping a set I have onto my new bike as I much prefer these to the brakes the new bike came with.
@@TrailTales that’s good, I have the budget Shimano 4 pots, they stop okay but I’m not a fan of the brake levers, I assume the plastic mounts on the Magura haven’t been a problem for you?
@@molley17 No... Haven't have any issues with them. They don't have "connectors" on them though. So you will need additional connectors for your dropper and shifter... They don't cost much though. Around €12 or so...
@@TrailTales brilliant thanks, I am going to give them a go
Dude your boring and not cool but thanks for the review!
No worries man... You're a COCK so alls good!