ANDRES FORERO | Music from 'Hamilton' (PASIC 2017)
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- VF Artist Andres Forero performs music from 'Hamilton: An American Musical" during his clinic at PASIC 2017 in Indianapolis, IN!
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The Percussive Arts Society (PAS) is the world’s largest percussion organization, with over 5,000 members in over 80 Chapters across the United States and around the globe. PAS hosts the Percussive Arts Society International Convention (PASIC®) annually, featuring the top names in drumming and percussion. This video is from PASIC 2017 in Indianapolis, Indiana, November 8-11, 2017.
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I like the fact that he is actually showing the audience everything he does in the show, like he ignored everything that is happening on and off stage and went straight to flip to the right page of the book, he is ready before the song begins, the actual set, click track and (maybe even the book) he uses for the show, etc. For how much access we can get our hands on these days, this is still not something we get to see a lot.
I'd pay for having a seat in the pit!
@@annekedebruyn7797 I really wish that was a thing haha
I probably watch 8:08 about twenty times a day
This guy has the best touch and feel I’ve seen in a long time
thought I was the only one lol
Not since John Bonham eh?
6:02 I love that he did that roll with just one hand! One! Holy moly!
Same lol goals!
Double strokes not rolls
If only The mics weren’t positioned and EQ’ed weirdly on the toms
@@theo1807 It's appropriate to call it an open roll as well as a doublestroke.
Right hand double stroke followed by a kick drum . Makes it a super clean triplet grouping. Man I really love his energy
The entire tone of Hamilton is basically just this guy.
Well, that, and all the rapping
GOD i miss playing drums for musicals in highschool
I played french horn in the pit of a musical this school year, in Into The Woods. It was my first musical and it was such an amazing experience. I think the coolest part was getting the behind the scenes of an actual production
Same, one of the most rewarding and fun things to drum
I’ve played piano for 5 musicals at my school and actually conducted/musical directed one and let me tell you, it’s unlike anything I’ve been a part of haha
Hey man, it's always still doable after high school. Practice a bit, contact some high school productions, get some contact.
i only got to play drums for one musical, Legally Blonde. Absolute blast.
Outstanding example of pocket playing. Awesome performance 😀
Each performance of that guy is literally a studio performance.
Massive 'less is more' Respect
Agree. It perfectly elevates the lyrical genius and enhances the performances on stage. Exactly what you want.
But he literally has 5 snare drums…
@@jacobh9344 each snare drum is used in a different setting and they have different sounds and purpose. Lol trust me, if he overplayed he would’ve been fired, he’s such a great drummer
Without loosing any taste, this dude is giving the perfect example of how to be a pro.
Insane pocket by this guy. Props to the guitar at 8:34 that hits the chords with beauty. This is so dope!
I never noticed the guitar in the soundtrack
@@jjhighlights7617 Me either now that I think about it.. but I'm sure these types of videos are mixed for music over vocals.. so its more apparent here
I love this a perfect example of how to accompany and play in the background
I had the pleasure of being there for this - One of my favorite parts of this was that the music was scrolling on a big screen... :D
So cool! Assuming the rest of the music was on a track? Just curious what performance it was from. Because it doesn’t sound like the cast recording.
@@zulupenguin Yes, it was a click track he played to... The recordings were from live performances. I believe everything is recorded for every performance... It was awesome to have him playing his part live, but still seeing the other percussionist(s) and MD was awesome too - about as close as you can get without climbing in the pit with them... :)
I love that it’s obvious he’s enjoying what he’s playing.
I love that too. Even after playing this score thousands of times! True passion for the music
Dude has incredible control and yet his feel doesn't suffer. 8:00 to the end is super solid.
I never realised how nice the guitar was in the opening song.
yeah his mix is interesting
I never realized he did that fill with one hand...after watching a ton of covers it seems no one else did either....changes it makes it groove better...smart drumming
Really interesting perception of the click. He's suuuuper far back on the beat, but the time and pocket never suffer. Something to aspire to..
It’s like, the perfect way to pocket. It’s crazy
Revisiting this for the millionth time 3 years later in full fan girl mode since Disney is dropping the ORIGINAL CAST recording next week!!!
Some of those drum charts seem as intricate as a Rush song, and Andres brings a Neal Peart-like consistency to them.
Also, the bass track on "Schuyler Sisters" is a favorite of mine, nice to hear it clearly here.
Wish Andres could have performed "Satisfied" here -- I tap along to that at my desk all the time.
Dude...That was TIGHT! And you made me smile. Killer job.
God bless!
I WAS THERE!!! Andres is incredible!!!
Same one of the best parts of PASIC 2017
You ever just click on a drum video cause the drummer has nice cymbals you wanna hear
Sir I'm in awe, my mouth hasn't closed. I'm nowhere near your calibre This is my first time I've seen a performance of the drummer no I take that back a master work on stage productions. Your not just a drummer you have to be fully organised in every facet for the production. I'm just a drummer ! Thankyou for the education. Cheers Billy
Damn this dude can groove!
This is amazing. Beautiful how he keeps feeling the pulse on the silence!
The click was taking cue from the drummer
Just to be able to read drum music that fast is unbelievable, Great drumming, Clapping with my sticks,,,
Let’s discuss something. The click is reference of time. There was a few times I’m like he’s playing behind the click but it was on purpose for the feel but still keeping the click for reference. He actually plays on top of it a lil in the second song crazy awareness!
This was the best part of my day. I'm so happy to see him out of the pit! I wonder how nervous he felt/was?
May I just intervene and mention what the click is all about? Besides using it for overall consistency, it's for backing tracks such as strings, percussion or SFX. Only the pit musicians hear it. It's also the global clock for the lighting cues. Plus it's cost effective.
Clicks are a necessity for musicals. Unlike performing in a normal band on stage where if you F something up, you can read the other band members and lock it back in. In musical theatre, you have to worry about the actors on stage, too, who are timing all of their moves to the music as well. There can be no errors or people can possibly miss their marks on stage (or worse, get hurt).
The music has to be consistent and as close to perfect on every show.
So you answered your own question.
5:22 how it all sounds wonderfully choreographed with the guitar and bass. Just melts like butter. Love that part.
Just the most pleasant click I’ve ever heard. 🤣
It's in key with the piece, makes it feel nice
Monster player.. video never gets old!!
this is absolutely amazing
So Andres how many snares are you gonna need?
Andres: Yes
And just since he probably can’t fit more than 4 in his pit setup, we’ll give a few more snare sounds to the other percussionist and on triggered tracks. Haha! Love all the snare sounds and textures
So cool to see stuff like this
Super cool. I'm using this video with my percussionaists.
“You can’t groove or have any feel with a click.” Yeah, okay...
Work!
Has anyone ever said that?
Says guys who can't play to a click.
It can be done, but it's a skill in itself and takes a ton of practice.
I use that click in my band class and jazz band regularly. Totally possible and this proves it. Good comment here.
Saw Sam Merrick play this in the pit on with the tour company, tight stuff this is in the pocket for sure.
The click is in key with the song. Was that on purpose? Lol
Seems to be on purpose. Genius idea!
@Amber Norris lol, I'm one of those musicians that plays with click live. The curiosity was in the chosen pitch of the click track.
@@SoundMusicCo I'm trying to decide if I would like it or not! I tend to like click to sound very unique to the rest of the mix so it's unmistakable
Yes it makes it feel better. It’s very jarring to hear something out of key with what ur playing
The song is in G minor/Bb major so it's possible that the met is tuned to Bb by default just because it's a common tuning note for concert band instruments (in my experience). I don't have perfect pitch so I don't actually know what note it is but just a thought
I'm sorry. WHAT did he just do at 6:02?!?! So impressive.
the beginning of The Schuyler Sisters
woahh im in such awe right now
His neck disappears when he starts those tom fills lol killed it brother!
Love seeing this, this guy is awesome!
Are the charts/book he's reading out of available for purchase?
Nick Sardello I wish they were! However as they are property of music theatre international the copyright is hella important
Insanely talented!!
You are the man! This sounds like the cast from the UK.
Love this song
Hi Patrick, nice to see you're doing well and you're still connected to Vic Firth.
Great drummer, respect 👍👌
That is so good!
so awesome luved it
So awesome.
How weirdly swung and behind the beat those 16ths are at 3:03 🤯
5 ***** awesome 👌
Is he really reading the music or is it for show? I think you'd have these parts memorized by heart if you're playing them night after night for months.
He answered this question that day actually, he said he'd never play without it, it's not about knowing the notes, it's about having to be perfect on Broadway. One mistake will get you fired. It's to avoid brain farts
I would say too, that memorizing such a large body of music would 1.) take forever and 2.) be super hard to do, especially with how many times songs/melodies repeat in slightly different ways. You might feel great playing the opener, but when those lines come back slower/more syncopated later? It's better to have a reference to see what version is up. This guy is super on top of things organization wise, it's really awesome to see
He has also said that he learned the part with the page turns so to play without the sheet music would throw him off.
@@christiantalac4746 That's simply not true, Broadway musicians make mistakes all the time.
@@griffin8062 I've taken multiple lessons from Broadway/Opera musicians. One mistake can absolutely get you fired, period. I personally was let go from a percussion spot at a large Opera company for 2 missed notes during a mallet run. It 1000% happens. Maybe some of them are lucky, and can make mistakes without losing a job/have an extremely understanding company. However that is not the norm. There are plenty of people who can play a book top down with no errors, great feel, and time every single time to give jobs to someone who can't. It is NOT normal to make mistakes at that level
I’m an actor so I’m always on stage but if I had to be any other part of musicals it would should definitely be the orchestra
That metronome is very intense it’s stressing me ahaha
Nothing like a metronome to give you anxiety
Anyone know what is on his hi hats? I want some
No idea exactly man, and u've prob noticed by now, but rdavidr has a video on that sorta thing
Anybody know what click that is? or which software? sounds to me like the Ableton click.
it is Ableton. The click in the live show is controlled in ableton by the other percussionist.
Finesse 🍸🎩
Clean!
So I know that Burr is Daniel Breaker in this and that Laf/Jeff is James Monroe Iglehart, does anyone know who is Hamilton, Laurens and Mulligan are? I think it’s Javier Munoz and J quinton Johnson as Hamilton and Mulligan respectively but not sure...any Hamilfans help me out?
Hamilton sounds like Jevon McFerrin or it may be Javier or Donald (i've only heard Lin due to OBC but i was just taking a lucky guess)
Jonathan Greene thanks! I’ve not seen either Jevon or Donald Webber as A. Ham live which is why I couldn’t identify them. I’ve heard JQ Johnson is fantastic as muligan/Madison but won’t get back to New York in time to watch him before he leaves the company! Trying to see it again in Aug to see James and Daniel Breaker. Wouldn’t mind saying what’s up to this guy, andres forrero either as he kills this score on the Set
I've only heard the original cast recording so it's interesting listening to other people in their roles.
@@StraightNoChaser86 that's the beauty of theatre. The OBC sets the standard but the people that follow are just as good if not better. I've seen the show many times with many different casts and everyone brings 100% :)
Burr sounds like Brandon Dixon.
This show seems like it’s SO FUN to drum for.
Ah the lost art of the groove...
What is his whole cymbal setup?
His cymbals are fantastic. I'd like to know too.
Cymbals: Sabian
• 17″ prototype hi-hats
• 24″ HH King ride with four rivets (or 24″, 2,184-gram HH Remastered ride with four rivets)
• 19″ HHX Evolution crash
• 18″ O-Zone stacked on top of 12″ prototype China
• 18″ Iso (or 18″ Aero) crash
• Prototype mini hi-hats with 7.5″ top and 9″ bottom
• 12″ HH Remastered splash mounted on Cymbolt stacking device
Drums: Sonor ProLite in Nussbaum finish
• 5×14 snare
• 8×10 tom
• 9×12 tom
• 16×16 floor tom
• 17×22 bass drum
• 5×14 Sonor Phil Rudd signature snare with RimRiser
• 5.5×14 Sonor Steve Smith cast steel snare
• 12″ Calderwood Percussion custom soprano snare
• 16×15 Calderwood Percussion custom rope-tension field drum with gut snares
Percussion: Gon Bops 14″ Alex Acuña signature timbale, Rhythm Tech Hat Trick G2
Electronics: Yamaha DTX-MULTI pad, Roland KT-10
Source: www.moderndrummer.com/article/may-2016-hamiltons-andres-forero/
Based on the intense wiggle, that's probably the Remastered prototype ride.
They sound amazing.
I don’t think I could play in such a fuckin tight shirt😂
Woah! Nice Ridehats!
Can he make a video on how to make that duct tape shirt?
so during a real performance, is there a click that everyone is listening to? i've never played pit drums. do they follow the conductor free hand or are they following the conductor with also a click?
Most modern shows use a click track because the conductor is playing keys 1
I wish there was a movie of hamilton but its mainly the orchestra
Who doing the singing
I Was 15 playing the drums in my fathers musical “Guys and Dolls “ it was dark I could not read my music the conductor was disappointed 😔 ...I joined the Marines and went to Paris Island... soooo much easier 😊 Andres Forero Love watching you play👍
very difficult...most drummers play by themselves in their rooms...this is entirely a separate discipline...similar to studio drumming...the pressure is on another level LIVE however...like doing the Grammys or Oscars every night to a LIVE audience. the click make it a little easier over watching a director who can change tempos at will. THAT is really hard to do...
Why can we hear the click?
It’s a metronome to keep time
Is it possible to buy the drum chart?
what are does hats, sounds crispy af
Which recording is he playing to? It's not the original cast recording, I don't think.
name of Song? please s2
damn the last chorus of my shot
What the voice over
Amazing! Thank you. Does anyone know what cast/performance this audio is from? ie Broadway / tour / cast list?
The replacement Broadway cast.
Who’s Hamilton? Is that Munoz?
Yeah
Anyone know what line of cymbals?
Sabian. The entire kit is documented at the end of this article. www.moderndrummer.com/article/may-2016-hamiltons-andres-forero/
Do the audience hear this click or just him?
who is singing in this???
Those sticks look really long. What model is that?
Vic Firth 1a
8:08
👍👍👍
My third comment.... 5 ***** being the highest this is 20*****
Not wearing SIH1s
What are his cymbals?
Jeremy Burd I saw a vid where he said they were all Sabians
The tiny mistake he makes at 1:15 makes me feel a lot better about my playing. Even the pros are human.
That’s in the chart, it’s not a mistake.
Dude needs powder to pull his shirt off his arms
??????????????????
He needs a tighter jacket
Fuck that dissonant click aha
is he sight reading this? I like his pocket, groove and flavour.. but the click and sheet music for a relatively straight forward track is a bit much in my opinion..
For musicals everything has to be insanely tight to keep in sync with all the band and performers and to hit all the stabs right. It has to be note-for-note perfect from the sheet music every time so even after playing it daily for months he's keeping the sheet music to make sure he doesn't make any mistakes.
Thomas Kenny I understand, thanks for the insight. Is it too far fetched to think people could play a set of these songs without the sheet music and still hit all the shots? That’s what my friends and I have been doing for years lol but maybe there’s something I’m missing!
@@DanMarcelino I'd say he definitely could play it without the sheet, if I was able to come close to a show by memory after a couple months of a show then a drummer as fantastic and clean as him who's been playing a show far longer absolutely could, it's just it isn't worth the risk of making a mistake during a show. The click is more of a necessity than the score (which is more of a safety net) since it's needed to coordinate the huge amount of people involved in the show: actors, band, lighting, stage crew etc, especially with keeping stabs tight. I'd assume that having the score/click in this performance was probably more out of showing people the experience of drumming for a musical rather than him actually needing it, since, like you said, the tracks are relatively straight forward, and it being a backing track makes that even more so. I believe Carter McLean who drums for The Lion King on Broadway doesn't use his score anymore, but he's been doing the show for more than 19 years, so it can definitely be done, it's just a matter of how much the performer trusts themselves/MD trusts the performer.
Thomas Kenny that makes sense!
I wrote down My Shot based on this video, enjoy: drive.google.com/open?id=1rRG32nrN9ZWP5uLb4_KWAvhbZot8fWyE
Why can we hear the click 🤦♂️
because this is PASIC and the percussionists in Hamilton listen to a click...so these drummers can hear how he works with it.
I understand the importance of reading the music when you're in such a big production, but it seems that Andres is completely dependent on them. Yes he plays outwards of what is set in the sheet music sometimes, but one would think that he would be a little bitt free'd from the written music after being with the production for such a long time. in my opinion the music would sound more free than set, but it has its disadvantages of course. any other thoughts?
Depends on the show. Alex Lacamoire is an exceptionally detailed orchestrator, and when you're playing Hamilton or Heights you read the ink. Other shows and other orchestrators allow for differing amounts of interpretation on the part of pit players.
He's not playing 30 full songs in a pub band with two other musicians and 30 people watching. He's playing 100s of different grooves tightly interwoven with a hundred other performers and crew relying on him for consistency and precision most of who would immediately pick up on any mistake or variation to what they're expecting. You don't rely on memory for that, no matter how good anyone is.
@@kanesanders6669 i am well aware, but andres has been with the show for months and months, so shit should be memorized. I totally understand that he has got the music set up, and I do hear a lot of creative freedom in his playing. the only thing I am pointing out is that imo his face is 130% locked to the music, witch I find strange.
@@jonaslilletun9891 As another commenter has mentioned already, a lot of it is because he wants to ensure that he won't just mentally check out from playing the parts free flowing. In broadway, one little mistake or excessive deviation could be grounds for instant firing, and since it has to be perfect every night he and the rest of the crew NEED to be locked to the paper at all costs. Andres probably could play it through pure memorization and do it exceptionally well, he's a great musician, but that's just not how broadway rolls.
That’s drumming in a theatre. It needs to be consistent.