@@LoreKeeperVG Yes, I agree, but maybe insomniac games will make the Ratchet and Clank game earlier? In any case, I will always be happy with the games from the Ratchet and Clank franchise. I wish you all the best.
@@LoreKeeperVG Do you mean the spin-off about Rivet and Kit? Well, in that case, I agree with you, but I would still really like to see a game about the whole team.
I think the fact that Lombaxes only existed in Ratchet’s universe, making them unique to that universe, is the only way to explain the massive plot hole of the great Lombax migration to a new dimension after fleeing Tachyon. If Lombaxes existed elsewhere, there would be several more dimensionators, and copies of Lombaxes we already know, which would complicate things tremendously. But most importantly, Lombaxes being unique to one universe would explain why Rivet is an orphan in her dimension. It makes more sense than another entire civilization of Lombaxes having their own existential threat and retreating to the same universe as the other Lombaxes did. But at the end of the day, Rivet still met Kit, eventually, and she did fill the same role as Ratchet. So could she be a counterpart by fate even though she wasn’t born there? The only difference now is her history and her bloodline/genetics.
Yeah, totally agree on the Lombax being unique part. And about the last bit, yes. At the end Rivet fits the role of "A Ratchet that hasn't met Clank", but that's why she fits why all the "Ratchet counterpart" thingy, at least in a narrative way.
I always thought that Tachyon actually committed a sort of genocide against the Lombax's altogether, I felt the lore slightly retconned when they just "fled" to another dimension in Rift Apart but my memory is fuzzy so I could be wrong?
@@ellag3598 It wasn't retconned. It was mentioned in the future series that Tachyon did kill several hundred Lombaxes, but not the entire species as a whole. The rest escaped with the Dimensionator.
@eperVG what if he didn't get rid of them because he realized still need them so mutated them to be docile and can retcon 3 fingers because not be dumb so maybe if retcon them or some live underground in fear
very interesting theory, i myself had a similar thought awhile back like "so, if rivet's dimension doesn't have native lombaxes, and we never see any morts in ratchet's dimension, maybe the morts are the stand-in for the lombaxes.", but you went into a lot more detail and parallels, especially the part with how the first thing we see the morts do is fix a ship. but also, here's something i think you'd find interesting. awhile ago, someone made a compilation of ratchet's voice lines from rift apart, and this compilation featured some rather interesting cut dialogue, specifically two lines where ratchet reacts to the first and last lorb entries. for the first one he says: "kaden? meaning dad? how long ago was this? and who's the voice?' and for the last one he says: "thanks mags, whoa, so did rivet get left behind? i need to talk to her later about all of this." both of these lines also have two separate recordings, one where ratchet sounds hurried, and one where he sounds calm, which might suggest these lines were meant to play during gameplay, as in insomniac's own spider-man games, when peter and miles are on the phone, they can sound either strained or relaxed depending on whether you're swinging or walking. for the video in question: look up "Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart - Ratchet Voice Lines + Efforts" and skip to 1:12 , 21:42 , 36:12 , and 50:48
We know from the Insomniac leaks that sadly there’s only one Ratchet and Clank game slated for the future, nothing Resistance related, and everything else is just Marvel stuff. They have several interesting IPs that unfortunately aren’t being used. Let’s hope with the runaway success of Helldivers 2 on pc Sony starts porting over a lot of their older games. I’d be willing to fork over money for collections of their older games.
In addition to enhanced collections it would also be awesome if they were to give us Dead Space/Resident Evil style remakes of their older games. If it were up to me we’d get remakes of Killzone and Resistance, and/or collections of the originals. Both IPs have a lot of genuinely interesting lore. Plus, they’re both some of the very few good “Halo Killers” because they for the most part had their own identity and weren’t trying to copy something else while lacking a basic understanding of what made their inspiration work.
That Azimuth and Rivet thing is what I was thinking. Imagine they go to the Lombax dimension and they find out Rivet is an Azimuth and they don’t want history to repeat itself.
Some things that back this up: - Clearly not every dimension that exists as an alternate universe type dimension. Hence why the Cragmites could be banished to one of them. - For the same reason, Lombaxes could escape to another dimension. If EVERY dimension existed as some alternate version then there'd be Lombaxes everywhere. - The Twins and the Zoni come from completely different dimensions, with the Zoni and the Nethers requiring special technology to even exist in Ratchet's reality. - Lombaxes are probably unique to Ratchet's reality, but have traveled to other dimensions. The lorbs prove this, as they're literally made by a friend of Ratchet's father, but are somehow in Rivet's dimension. - The lorbs contain recordings of observations from other realities. Pretty much all of the observations are easter eggs to other games, such as Jak and Daxter or Sackboy. But if we were to take those references a bit more seriously, it would once again prove that there exist unique realities that aren't alternate to the one Ratchet is from. I will be so bold to say that finding an alternate reality with counterparts and such like is a rarity. The only reason why we got one in Rift Apart is because Dr. Nefarious was specifically looking for an alternate reality, not just another reality.
I mean it's pretty obvious.Mags stated that the lombaxes were scattered across dimensions and if she was a opposite gender version of ratchet,why wasn't captain quantum,Emperor nefarious,Pierre female versions of Qwark,Dr nefarious and Pete.But I do think that the Insomniac devs knew that she wasn't a dimensional counterpart of Ratchet because she said she didn't know that it was possible for her to meet up with the lombaxes.So basically the the Lombax council exiled Azimuth and sent his unborn daughter to another dimension like how kaden sent Ratchet to Solana.
So if you have a kid with your alternate universe counter part, what happens with your offspring's DNA? Does it have a chance of being ya'know. "Whisper" Special?
My headcannon is that all Morts are clones of each other with very slight genetic quirks making them slightly different from each other. That is the only sane reason they all have the same name. Whenever Rivet referred to a Mort, my immediate question is: "Which one?!"
I mean Ratchet would not have survived a more competent Nefarious. It would make sense to me that there is no direct counterpart in that dimension. Although still not sure why that Nefarious is a robot at all, that implies defeat.
@@LoreKeeperVGyea, I wrote the comment before watching the video, later added the "btw" part and decided to leave it as is, even tho you pretty much said everything already.
@@LoreKeeperVGYes, but they answer quite rarely, these are very simple things, like a joke. But I'll tell you honestly, I know the number of the insomniac games company.
@@LoreKeeperVG Thats fair but the concept art for rivet one of her designs is similar to alister color scheme and maybe why alister never mentioned having a daughter because he thought she was dead and never wanted to talk about it but also the reason he wanted to go back in time not only prevent his mistake but to also save his daughter It ain't perfect but possible
but they are literally dimensionally locked. wait you said looking like ratchet isnt enough to be his counterpart. but then said something that looks nothing like ratchet and the lombaxes are their counterparts??? huh
Who are dimensionally locked? The lombaxes are clearly not. And no, that's a pretty poor and misleading summary of my theory. First of all, I don't think I even talk about physical similarities between Rivet and Ratchet (who aren't that similar tbh), and Morts having 5 fingers (along with other things) isn't just "not looking like the lombaxes" in a world in which literally EVERYONE has 3 fingers unless they have any kind of relationship with Ratchet and the Lombaxes. I recommend you watch the theory again.
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I would like the new part of Ratchet and Clank to be released as soon as possible.
I think we are going to wait for... A handful of years
@@LoreKeeperVG Yes, I agree, but maybe insomniac games will make the Ratchet and Clank game earlier? In any case, I will always be happy with the games from the Ratchet and Clank franchise. I wish you all the best.
I would love to have a small standalone game like Miles Morales tbh
@@LoreKeeperVG Do you mean the spin-off about Rivet and Kit? Well, in that case, I agree with you, but I would still really like to see a game about the whole team.
The new Ratchet & Clank is coming in 2029. From the Insomniac Games Leak i know this.
I think the fact that Lombaxes only existed in Ratchet’s universe, making them unique to that universe, is the only way to explain the massive plot hole of the great Lombax migration to a new dimension after fleeing Tachyon. If Lombaxes existed elsewhere, there would be several more dimensionators, and copies of Lombaxes we already know, which would complicate things tremendously. But most importantly, Lombaxes being unique to one universe would explain why Rivet is an orphan in her dimension. It makes more sense than another entire civilization of Lombaxes having their own existential threat and retreating to the same universe as the other Lombaxes did.
But at the end of the day, Rivet still met Kit, eventually, and she did fill the same role as Ratchet. So could she be a counterpart by fate even though she wasn’t born there? The only difference now is her history and her bloodline/genetics.
Yeah, totally agree on the Lombax being unique part.
And about the last bit, yes. At the end Rivet fits the role of "A Ratchet that hasn't met Clank", but that's why she fits why all the "Ratchet counterpart" thingy, at least in a narrative way.
I always thought that Tachyon actually committed a sort of genocide against the Lombax's altogether, I felt the lore slightly retconned when they just "fled" to another dimension in Rift Apart but my memory is fuzzy so I could be wrong?
@@ellag3598 It wasn't retconned. It was mentioned in the future series that Tachyon did kill several hundred Lombaxes, but not the entire species as a whole. The rest escaped with the Dimensionator.
Super glad to see more Ratchet videos that aren't reviews, retrospectives, or gameplay
Yeah, this saga needs more love :)
@eperVG what if he didn't get rid of them because he realized still need them so mutated them to be docile and can retcon 3 fingers because not be dumb so maybe if retcon them or some live underground in fear
very interesting theory, i myself had a similar thought awhile back like "so, if rivet's dimension doesn't have native lombaxes, and we never see any morts in ratchet's dimension, maybe the morts are the stand-in for the lombaxes.", but you went into a lot more detail and parallels, especially the part with how the first thing we see the morts do is fix a ship.
but also, here's something i think you'd find interesting. awhile ago, someone made a compilation of ratchet's voice lines from rift apart, and this compilation featured some rather interesting cut dialogue, specifically two lines where ratchet reacts to the first and last lorb entries.
for the first one he says: "kaden? meaning dad? how long ago was this? and who's the voice?'
and for the last one he says: "thanks mags, whoa, so did rivet get left behind? i need to talk to her later about all of this."
both of these lines also have two separate recordings, one where ratchet sounds hurried, and one where he sounds calm, which might suggest these lines were meant to play during gameplay, as in insomniac's own spider-man games, when peter and miles are on the phone, they can sound either strained or relaxed depending on whether you're swinging or walking.
for the video in question: look up "Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart - Ratchet Voice Lines + Efforts" and skip to 1:12 , 21:42 , 36:12 , and 50:48
Also in the last Lorb Mags says “I hope you find your way back to us.” This pretty much confirms this.
We know from the Insomniac leaks that sadly there’s only one Ratchet and Clank game slated for the future, nothing Resistance related, and everything else is just Marvel stuff. They have several interesting IPs that unfortunately aren’t being used. Let’s hope with the runaway success of Helldivers 2 on pc Sony starts porting over a lot of their older games. I’d be willing to fork over money for collections of their older games.
Yeah, I don't know why they didn't release a collection for the 20th anniversary
In addition to enhanced collections it would also be awesome if they were to give us Dead Space/Resident Evil style remakes of their older games. If it were up to me we’d get remakes of Killzone and Resistance, and/or collections of the originals. Both IPs have a lot of genuinely interesting lore. Plus, they’re both some of the very few good “Halo Killers” because they for the most part had their own identity and weren’t trying to copy something else while lacking a basic understanding of what made their inspiration work.
That Azimuth and Rivet thing is what I was thinking. Imagine they go to the Lombax dimension and they find out Rivet is an Azimuth and they don’t want history to repeat itself.
Or she is just the daughter of the Lombax in the Lorbs 🤔
@@Wolfstarzan Mag’s? Maybe
@@aaronstephan1816 yeah that was his name thanks
Maybe I forgot him because he has such a basic sounding name 😂
@@Wolfstarzan yeah😄
that would be an awesome sequel.
Let's hope Insomniac is not afraid of commiting to a more deep story
Some things that back this up:
- Clearly not every dimension that exists as an alternate universe type dimension. Hence why the Cragmites could be banished to one of them.
- For the same reason, Lombaxes could escape to another dimension. If EVERY dimension existed as some alternate version then there'd be Lombaxes everywhere.
- The Twins and the Zoni come from completely different dimensions, with the Zoni and the Nethers requiring special technology to even exist in Ratchet's reality.
- Lombaxes are probably unique to Ratchet's reality, but have traveled to other dimensions. The lorbs prove this, as they're literally made by a friend of Ratchet's father, but are somehow in Rivet's dimension.
- The lorbs contain recordings of observations from other realities. Pretty much all of the observations are easter eggs to other games, such as Jak and Daxter or Sackboy. But if we were to take those references a bit more seriously, it would once again prove that there exist unique realities that aren't alternate to the one Ratchet is from.
I will be so bold to say that finding an alternate reality with counterparts and such like is a rarity. The only reason why we got one in Rift Apart is because Dr. Nefarious was specifically looking for an alternate reality, not just another reality.
I think they are just like actors in a theater.
Different actors doing same or similar role in a play.
I mean it's pretty obvious.Mags stated that the lombaxes were scattered across dimensions and if she was a opposite gender version of ratchet,why wasn't captain quantum,Emperor nefarious,Pierre female versions of Qwark,Dr nefarious and Pete.But I do think that the Insomniac devs knew that she wasn't a dimensional counterpart of Ratchet because she said she didn't know that it was possible for her to meet up with the lombaxes.So basically the the Lombax council exiled Azimuth and sent his unborn daughter to another dimension like how kaden sent Ratchet to Solana.
Really interesting theory and great video!
I hope this one turns out to be true and that the next game has a deeper and more twisted story!
Hope so! Thanks :)
Even if she isn't literally his dimensional counterpart, she is functionally because she more or less serves the the same purpose.
For some reason this is exactly what I thought they meant when they said “dimensional counterpart”.
That... They weren't?
I love Ratchet more than ever.
Same
Yeah, for me I loved Rivet and Kit relationship only... Because they both are my favorite duo!
So if you have a kid with your alternate universe counter part, what happens with your offspring's DNA? Does it have a chance of being ya'know. "Whisper" Special?
My headcannon is that all Morts are clones of each other with very slight genetic quirks making them slightly different from each other. That is the only sane reason they all have the same name. Whenever Rivet referred to a Mort, my immediate question is: "Which one?!"
I mean Ratchet would not have survived a more competent Nefarious. It would make sense to me that there is no direct counterpart in that dimension. Although still not sure why that Nefarious is a robot at all, that implies defeat.
Question for all of you:Alister Azimuth is Rivet's father: true or false?
I wouldn't say "it's a lie", but more a misunderstanding between Ratchet and Rivet.
Btw I had the same theory when looking into the games.
I mean, the "lie" part is to give the video a little more pressence, but yeah.
@@LoreKeeperVGyea, I wrote the comment before watching the video, later added the "btw" part and decided to leave it as is, even tho you pretty much said everything already.
Ratchet is my most love instead I been in love with ratchet every sense I was a kid . I would die for him.
I do some people did not know Ratchet already love interest
I'm all for this theory.
I miss playing Ratchet and Clank!😭😭💔💔
By the way, do you know how to contact insomniac games?
I mean, you can try on Twitter
@@LoreKeeperVGYes, but they answer quite rarely, these are very simple things, like a joke. But I'll tell you honestly, I know the number of the insomniac games company.
Hey can you make a video on the possible hints and evidence that rivet might be alister daughter and the story potential for that
Well, the story potential is more or less what I mention at the end of the video. And about the hints and evidence... I don't know if there's any tbh.
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Thats fair but the concept art for rivet one of her designs is similar to alister color scheme and maybe why alister never mentioned having a daughter because he thought she was dead and never wanted to talk about it but also the reason he wanted to go back in time not only prevent his mistake but to also save his daughter
It ain't perfect but possible
I hope the emperor's assistant will return wait why is she the only F-44 unit
She is (almost) unique, like Lawrence
Yeah but she is my obsession. She's too adorable that I wanna animate her but I cannot animate yet so I need to learn....
@@LoreKeeperVG she is probably Lawrence's dimensional counterpart
I knew it.😒🙄
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but they are literally dimensionally locked. wait you said looking like ratchet isnt enough to be his counterpart. but then said something that looks nothing like ratchet and the lombaxes are their counterparts??? huh
Who are dimensionally locked? The lombaxes are clearly not.
And no, that's a pretty poor and misleading summary of my theory. First of all, I don't think I even talk about physical similarities between Rivet and Ratchet (who aren't that similar tbh), and Morts having 5 fingers (along with other things) isn't just "not looking like the lombaxes" in a world in which literally EVERYONE has 3 fingers unless they have any kind of relationship with Ratchet and the Lombaxes. I recommend you watch the theory again.